January 26, 2023 • 54 mins
Miles and Jack are joined by co-host of the Baseline NBA podcast for 19 Media Group Warren Shaw on today’s episode. The trio discussed the state of the Celtics, Rui Hachimura’s potential impact in Los Angeles and plenty more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Lakers are making moves that make this Plasian man
very happy, and Philly has jumped into the Eastern Conference
standings with after a wonderful road trip. The Celtics are
still the league's best team. We knew that. And we'll
get into all of that and plenty more with the
host of the Baseline NBA and Don't Interview podcast, Warren
Shaw on today's episode, I'm Miles Gray, then I'm Jack O'Brien,
(00:24):
and this is Miles and yeah, we were. We did
steal that from sixty Minutes, where they say and this
is and then everybody says sixty minutes over top of
one another, or or did Barbara Walters? Alright, alright stands
(00:45):
for peace. I just want to clarify. I gotta say,
Warren Shaw up the Baseline Don't Interviews and a Celtics
fan to the Celtics Belief podcast. Welcome to the show.
How are you man, My dude, thanks so much for
having me man. Really excited to be where. I love
y'all what you've been doing over here to last year.
So excited to be here on Mad Boost. That's all Jabari,
(01:06):
that's all. We're merely He's the conductor. Literally all of
this is scripted. This like this next sentence. Jabari is
one of the most potent producers in podcasting is my
own personal belief. I don't know, he wrote, I don't know.
I don't know what that means. But more so, let
(01:26):
me get a little bit of your background. You grew
up in New York. Correct, you're from New York. I
was born in New York and raising the South Florida
area and show the country unfortunately, yes, and you are
a Celtics but then you are, but you are a
Celtics fan. I am a Celtics fan. That is correct.
What's what's that journey? To take us on that journey?
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You know, it's it's it's quite the past. So I
won't bore you or trying to, you know, give you
the cliff notes version. But I think, like most basketball fans,
I was probably a Jordan fan. When I got introduced
to um So, I was kind of in that space.
Um So Jabari, you know, super producer. As I know
you call and would hate this, but I had a
second favorite team and that second favorite team was kind
of Boston because of my co host on the baseline,
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he was a big Celtics fan. I think to begin with,
so I was a Jordan guy. Then it was actually
a big Chris Webber guy and Sacramento. Um, so I'm
actually always hating the Lakers, um. And then I think
I really kind of got into the Celtic situation, like
even just right before even KG got there, so when
they were struggling in the Anton Walker days and things
like that as well too. I yeah, I worked for
the Next for a little while as an intern, and um,
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you know, it was really interesting because I saw Walker
play and MSG and it was one of those games
he just like he was just dancing and like like
he had like forty five points or whatever, and I
was like, yeah, this squad is hot. So I just
kind of kind of rock up with him from then on.
And then obviously the guy KG, etceter excetera, etcetera, and
that's Bro I've been ever since. Man. Wow, so he's
stuck with them even after Ange came and uh yeah, no,
I'm just playing all right. Yeah. I mean that you
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you paid your dues if you were there for the
Antoine Walker era all the way through the you know,
there was some ark years in the desert in between
that and Drew's arrival, and now they're doing all right.
It seems like they're okay. Yeah, I have a question.
What was your favorite Chris Weber signature shoe that he
made with dot do? So I would be lying to
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you if I was like, Oh, I was a big
dot dot guy. So you know I couldn't. Anybody can't
even in front of you on that. I know. They
had some black joints, um the wood grains, the sea dubs.
Remember the one that had the spinners in. Oh, no,
I can't. I can't. I can't rock with those, like
I can't do it. Yeah, you don't, man, he only
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had wood grain. This one had wood grain. Jack that
is live though, yeah live. He was a dot dot guy.
He started off Nike. No, no, he was with Nike
first and then but then like they gave him a
they gave him with a sea dub like du a
deep cut though. I'm a I'm a big sneaker. I'm
a big sneaker head. And I just remember these were
like such unique moments because I remember in like reading
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Slam magazine, I'm like, wow, I really did a full
page ad for this shoe that has wood cream on it. Famously,
Webber met with some Nike executives about re upping and
they pronounced his name tris uh Weber. And that's the
that's of course the backstory of how Steph ended up
with Uh. Yes, that they were like, hey, Stephen, we're
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big things Nike said that. He was like, oh cool,
so not signing with you guys. This is a Nike
documentary coming out like on Amazon right now or soon.
I just saw a bunch of stuff on that too.
I'm trying to figure out like how deep they're going
to go and are they like trash and Niking that
do we know? Or kind of like what's the situation
for that. I mean, I think any global brand is
going to have its dark sides to it, so yeah,
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I'm sure. I mean, it's it's a monolith at this point,
but I disagree. I actually only trust a documentary that
has made with the cooperation of the global brand that
it's about at another truth. Thank you. Here's the thing, Stefan,
we want to here's the thing, Stevens. If we want, Hey,
we want to do an ad with it's you and
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you're long lost relative with the same last name, Marie Curie,
and we think that's going to be just a fantastic
conversation between past and president. But anyway, um, we digress.
The Celtics, yes, yes, yes, the best record in the
league right now, nine straight before the loss of the Magic.
I have a serious question for you, So who are
(05:30):
you more afraid of facing in a seven game series,
the streaking, the surging Philadelphia seventy six or short now
in second or the Orlando Magic, who really seem to
have your number according to Magic fan. So I'm not
even gonna front with you, honestly, So taking to a
serious basketball conversation, Boston struggles with size, and that's really
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what it boils down to. Orlando was kind of big
at every position, so to speak. And those are things
like Chicago beat us, you know, be us twice as
well too. Um, you know, they have a lot of
size and pretty much you know, one through five for
the most part, and that's really where Boston hasn't really
been able to figure some of those things out. So, Um,
while Philadelphia is obviously more talented team than Orlando, for
whatever reason, I would be definitely afraid of the Magic.
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I think at this stage, especially with Jonathan Isay coming back,
he look good in the little ten minutes he played.
And you know what they've been doing with Boncio and
obviously Folds and anybody else will too. Like it's yeah,
it's wild. Like I said, they just some teams just
have your number, like you alluded to. And I think
that's where it is with Orlando and Boston. For so
you would rather face the seventy sixers then or later.
I just want to like make sure that I get
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it crystal clear for the bulletin board material for because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's go. I'd rather I'd rather face the seventies sixers. Yeah,
and Warren did just make the little man sign with
his hand about and be uh too small, too small,
too small. Um, it is wild though, Yeah, the Celtics
definitely have the seventy sixers number, like even even though
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beat as a big man and you know, pretty big team. Yeah.
But the thing that I just love is with the
magic the energy of the magic fans or like the
Celtics are over, you know what I mean. The Warriors
we cooked them, Okay, the Celtics mostly was it. I
think three and one as a record, they're like we
we're through, We're through. Uh, and I just love that
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excitement that happens from like those those like like those
winds of great emotional value to a fandom without it
actually maybe reflecting, you know, because the playoffs is obviously
a completely different, uh proposition. But you know, shout out
to my fans over there in Orlando, were getting very excited.
Can can I just say this one thing? So I
think as when you take your your fandom, so to speak,
(07:44):
there's times where it's like, listen, I need to stay
the f off of Twitter, off of Instagram because people
are just they've lost their complete minds. And I think
it was like Basketball Forever or some aggregate account whatever
put that exact same thing that you said, Miles, you know,
the Orlando magic with the championship East did like, you know,
Wagner and bon Caro and Curry and Clay and and
(08:05):
Tatum and Brown and your heads like an in deference
to them, I was like, what do we do? You know,
as a Laker fan, We're only like, watch if we
beat the Clippers tonight, the memes are going to be ridiculous.
We're holding onto ashes at the moment, So we'll we'll,
we'll find a way to make that nourish our souls. Yeah,
(08:26):
as I just said, and yet plan the parade even
at the All Star break. But Miles, I do I
do have to ask you. You're a fan of Ruey,
You're a fan of the Lakers. Two great loves of
viewers have come together. As Los Angeles is most famous
black and these person I have to say, I would
(08:48):
like to welcome my brother Okay to the Lake show.
Uh you know, I met him and I pretended to
say come to the Lakers, but instead I just said,
it's really nice to meet um. Wow, you're talk like
whoa no way? And I did the thing was like,
hold on, let's see go back to back and I'll
(09:08):
just put my hands straight up. But I mean, I'm
I'm excited about it, you know. The sentimentality aside. I
just I think as a player, I think there's a
good environment to go into because Ruey is like he listens,
he doesn't have an ego, like he will absorb the
wisdom that is collectively around him at the Lakers, and
I think that will only help him. And Jabarri and
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I were talking before the show whether or not that means,
you know, what the what the heights were going to
reach I think our t b D But I definitely
have a good feeling about it because at the end
of the day, he's not another guard. Okay, it's not
another guard. He is a big man who can shoot.
He's an analytics guy. Like the analytics people seem to
enjoy his work. So I'm happy because I am. I have,
(09:51):
like through osmosis, through spent a lot of time talking
to NBA with you and superroducer Jabari. I am now
I checked this six or score first, Lakers next. Yeah,
I am poor and obviously lifelong Lebron lover. Uh yeah,
Warren Lebron. What do you think that though he's as
(10:16):
like the super an ass to say he's very good
at basketball, yea. I think the ruly thing though, is
is super dope for them um as you alluded to,
you know, shooting I love for you, like thirty four
percent from the people are not not necessarily in volume,
But I think just a change of scenery is gonna
be helpful for him from being in Washington. You know,
they got a diva and and obviously COO's came as
well too, and he ended up just kind of not
(10:37):
really getting to the opportunities that he wanted to get,
you know, his last game of watching you put up
a thirty piece, right, So I think the Lakers like, yeah,
sign me up, and you know what I mean, get
get cattured one all the way hell up out here,
you know for a couple of second rounders. Was it
three second rounders? And I think that the Ruy Ruey
situation in l a will be actually really really great,
especially with a d coming back. Um, I'm excited for
you all, I really am. I think it's a nice
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move and you can read up on him and see
where he takes you in the future. So yeah, solid
moved by Lakers. There was a there was a quote
from Donte Sabonis who was saying, like when they were
at the Staples Center when they were Gonzaga, like like
when he was like, this is where I want to play,
He's like I feel a connection here and he said
that like many years ago. So there's part of me
that like, I just like the energy around it. And
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I think also just culturally, like Japanese people, there's a
huge respect for your elders and people who have more
knowledge than you. Like. There are a few clips circulating
from when him and Russ were playing on the Wizards,
of like Russ really trying to like coach him with
some certain things like in the post, and he's like
and you could tell the way he's like he's like listening,
He's not like yea, all right, man, like like it's
time to play. So I think all that combined with
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the amount of like collective like wisdom that is there,
I think it's just gonna be just fantastic. So but again,
we'll see, we'll see if the will and the talent
all combined at the right moment. They're they're basically Washington
Wizards West not right, and don't they have like four
formal Wizards team now? After get in Rood past guest
Tray Kirby tweeted a meme of like Nathan Fielder from
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Nathan for You, and he said the plan if Lebron
James can win an NBA championship with Wizards. So yeah,
maybe that's where it's head. Yeah, it'll be It'll be
cool anytime somebody joins the Lebron James team. They're joining
you know, they they have the opportunity to learn from
the best basketball mind to ever do it. I think
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so will be interesting. I will be watching everybody, so
you know, keep that in mind. Anymore moves. I know
super producer Jabari. I can trust him on a lot
of basketball things. One thing I don't know if I
can trust him on is potential Lakers trades because the
hope springs eternal. Um, but he's got some things out here. Uh,
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you know, Bogdan Bogdanovich. Uh. You know. Still there's still
us of the Pacers trade bringing Miles Turner and Buddy Healed,
And that's the only one that really feels like it
moves the needle to me for the Lakers because you
get another defensive stopper and uh, a laser as. I
(13:11):
will only refer to Lakers shooters as because Lebron osen
this season by saying, not a lot of lasers out there.
Um yeah, but some more like a rave, but we
don't have them. Yeah, I don't know. It seems like
those are the things you need the most helping is
shooting and defense, which are important parts of basketball in
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my opinion. Yeah, I agree. And you know, if he
was asking earlier, what you know, what do the Lakers
need to solidify this roster? I think it's a time
machine to make that move a little bit earlier. But okay,
I'll deal with it. Oh just a side note for
all the Laker fans out there, did you see the
McDonald's All Americans and it was it was Pages Pages
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to Yakovitch's kid is also in there with like Brawnie. Yeah.
I was just like wow, Pages, So okay, like this again,
this is when he's name mentioned ever? Yeah, yeah, Pages,
attention Stoyakovitch bomb and three um one of my favorite
sports center calls. Um. Also, Jabari had changed it so
(14:16):
that it's actually Bojan Bogdanovich, not bogged On. But he
when I started saying that you can't trust Jabari about
about Lakers things, he's uh sabotaged me in the dock
and changed the name. So it was wrong, but I
caught it all good. We can move forward any other
big trades. You guys are kind of keeping an eye on,
not me personally. I'm once I saw my my fellow
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black and ees man, I was like, okay, I'm gonna
take a breath a second, but yeah, Warren, what are
you looking at with the with the deadline coming up?
All right? Well, with the deadline, you know, I'll keep
it Laker specific really quickly. If they find a way
to get the Turner situation done, then that really thrust
them back into the Western Conference conversation like tremendously. That
that defensive president, that and the guy who could shoot
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the three, assuming you're not giving up Thomas Bryan or
whatever it is as well to you know, to kind
of solidify that bench, then you're really really really great there.
I think the biggest name I would imagine to be
moved is probably Bogdanovitch from Detroit. They did such a
smart thing by acquiring him from a bagage just from Utah.
I have no idea why Age just kind of gave
him up just to get his you know, his old
his old friend Kelly old Nick back over in Utah.
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They immediately signed Bogdanovits to a two year deal, so
now any acquiring team doesn't have to be hey, where
he's a rental. They know they can at least keep
him on for another two years that are are decent
and affordable salary. A guy who can give you a
twenty game, plays decent enough defense, and it's really really
helpful usually stay as healthy as well too. I think
he's probably the biggest name that actually does get moved.
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The other names John Collins. They've been talking about moving
him for you know, four years now, it seems like
so if that were to happen, i'd, you know, it'd
be be kind of surprised. And the other big name
is actually another name from Washington's Kyle Kuzma, And I
just don't know who has the assets to kind to
make that happen. I love to see Dallas maybe try
to make that happen for them, so so to speak, um,
I think he'd be great alongside Luca and even Christian
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Wood at the center position. But I think every all
the other moves out there are going to be minor tweaks,
uh that that I've heard and kind of the rumors
that I've been seeing out there as well too. But
those are the three biggest names that I can see
potentially getting moved this deadline. Does Kuzma have too much
swag for the city of Dallas a question that's been asked.
I'm not I'm not asking it because I wouldn't wanna
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antagonize the city of Dallas. It's gone bad for Catholics
before they say his drip is deadly so what better
place than to be in Daly Plaza. Yeah, that could
be a big vibe, but really good. I don't know what. Yeah,
he's you know, he's he's uh, he's very fashionable. And
I mean I'll never forget that one outfit with the
really long sleeves. How could you and then head out
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of it? Yes, I'll never that will always just be like, wow,
did his eyebrows at one point like go with the
bleached cybrows? I feel like he did. I think he
plattied out the whole face, like he's got that, he's
got that in his bag. Man, we're such in a
weird place and I think society now where I think
almost anything is acceptable. So that sweater was it was ridiculous,
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so the top, but some people like, yo, that's so swag,
you know. I was like, is it though? Really like
we're just gonna accept anything now? Yeah? I rest my case. Bro,
it's it's it's all good. You don't want to wear
like a gigantic overside coojie sweater like was I feel
like the nip of that thing and you look like
a nightmare from like beetlejuice or something, you know what
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I mean? Like I get, like, you know, I get
the one dimension of like, whoa, that's a fashion, that's
a move, that's something different. It's just so hard to
see how that's functional, you know what I mean. Like
it's like, well, where your hands and head heavy, just heavy,
and it's like you can't you can't eat it. You
can't eat a chili dog with that sweater on. And
that's the way I look at it. Some it has
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to be some function. But again, you can slap somebody
across the room, though, I guess you have the chili
dog fed to you because that's how hard you flex
me on every um. All right. The Wemby race is
getting interesting. Houston had lost thirteen straight before beating the
Wolves on Monday, so they were they were eleven and
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twenty three and then lost thirteen in a row or
maybe it was ten and twenty three, ten and thirty
six and then they beat the Wolves. But pretty pretty impressive.
Pretty feel like, yeah, I feel like it could be
could be an interesting place for him. The Spurs to
and eight over the last ten, fourteen and thirty three
overall Pistons we we've always their support for in the past.
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That would be a fun team to see him. But
I don't know. I just I'm rooting for the city
of Detroit in general. So even though I hear that,
you know the the Great Lakes hair because like its
own thing. Yeah, I mean, they do have that built
in advantage that you live near the Great Lakes, you
have a strong hairline. Yeah, so I'll go, I'll go
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just for that, just for that. What's that Robevic the
oh yeah of Illinois, the governor of Illinois, The governor
of Illinois. Yeah, yeah, Lego, yeah, Lego. Many appreciate absolutely
shout out the Lego man hairlines out there. Um, how
how are you feeling warring? Like is there? Do you
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have any sentimental feelings about where you'd like to see
when Binyama go or you're just kind of like whatever,
we'll see what, we'll see where it goes. No, I
I love to see him to Charlotte. Actually, Wow, the
hornets are unintentionally like they didn't know they were going
to be this bad. But I think now that you
this is now your reality. You go all in, so
trade Deadline, you try to get rid of Fobre, you
try to get Gordon Hayward, maybe keep PJ Washington or
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whatever the case and be plumbly, etcetera, etcetera. And you say, nah,
Ball has been hurt most of the season, ankle, whatever, whatever.
Imagine pairing him alongside you know, eNB next year, Like
that's that's all the vibes. So I think now that
Charlotte is at this stage, you know what, let's go
all in and see if we can make that happen,
because that could be apparent in the duo that could
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really be one of the more amazing ones in the
NBA for years to come. In While Houston and Detroit
or all those things, like I think those are great fits,
San Antonio is the one place I'd hate to see
him go, which is kind of boring for me. You know,
that's probably what will end up at it, right, um,
but I think Charlotte would be the most exciting for
the short term and long term future of the NBA.
That is gonna be wild. Like the lottery this year
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is going to be just appointment television. Like I'm going
to be glued to that like I usually am, but
like this is, I'm gonna be nervous before that. Even
though I don't like you know, the Sixers, you know,
the Lakers aren't gonna really have a chance at it,
but just like this is gonna dictate the future the
next you know, however years the Hornets, I'm on board
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if they just go full all branding, all uniform design,
everything is that early nineties Hornets look okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that would be a lot of fun. And then yeah,
LaMelo is one of the most fun players to watch
in the league. So and then like a Muggsy Bogs
type guy just for good measure, yeah, you know, I mean,
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just like just to fill out the visual landscape of
that roster. I would love to see Wemby. And then
like also the short like you gotta have the biggest
dude and the shortest dude on the team too. I
would just for the media day ops, I feel you, Abo,
And then you can get rid of you know, just
bring Muggsy Bogs back on like a two day contract
or something for media day, just for the just for
the lolls, okay, Michael, and still like put up thirteen assists. Yeah,
(21:37):
all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
back and talk about some great performances from the week.
And we're back. We are, and this is the segment
where we highlight some big time performances over the past week.
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I don't know where do we want to start. Jalen
Green put up a career high forty four and a
win over the Wolves, breaking that thirteen game losing streak.
That was a lot of fun. One of the most
exciting finishers to come along in a in a while.
Super fast, super just a lot of fun, super dangerous
coming going at the rack. Also, he had like this
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one fade away, like fading to his left. Uh just
rainbow just one of one of the highest arcing shots
that I've seen where it was like, did that happen
on purpose? But I mean it dropped through the center
of the rim. But I feel like I've been seeing
a little bit more of that, like the real the
rainbow shot might be making a comeback. We'll see. I'd
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like to see that. Yeah, Look, it's always good to
see my fellow Blazons out there achieving. By the way,
we got to talk about the thunder Shay with thirty
four or five and five in a game winner and
a win over the Nuggets. Okay, so he's just behind
Golden State and a play an opportunity. That's the question
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I have about the Lakers when I look at the
West standings. You know, I think a lot of people
have made the comment that like the top five six
in the East looks really dangerous compared to the top
five in the in the West. I don't know if
I agree with that, but the West is just like, so,
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who who do you replace in this playoff race? If
if things come together, if Ruy like really starts contributing,
you got to replace the Warriors, the Timberwolves, the Sons,
the Jazz, like I can see, you know, the Clippers,
the MAVs, the Pelicans, the Kings, the Grizzlies, and the Nuggets.
The Kings are in third place right now by themselves.
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I love to see it. Somehow, I don't have no will,
you know. Even even they were even saying screaming light
the beam in l A and I was like the
tear went down my face and I was like, go ahead,
but even okay, right now, yeah, they seem like they're
coming on. I was watching or saw something on Instagram
earlier today as well too, you know, you know, because
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I can't help myself, I guess, and somebody had put like, okay,
see in their top ten, and I was like, all right,
in top ten the NBA there were number ten, and
I was like, you've you've gone too far. But this
is the nice season, right, like it really is. It
really is great to see what they've done, especially without
chat SoC having like this magical season definitely has got
to be an All Star. But you're just kind of
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figuring out, was is this the plan for them? Like
will Charlotte didn't expect to be as bad? Did okay
see it? Expect to be this good at any capacity?
And now that they're here, did you just say screw it,
let's go for it and try to get in, you know,
because they are clearly too far removed from the Wemby
sweepstakes for at this point. Now let's they're just kind
of lose every single single game. But it's it's been
a magical season for for the Oklahoma City Thunder, and
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I just I love to see it. And I went
to the season saying, at least I hope they stopped tanking.
I really, I really did, because I felt like, you know,
they have they have enough pieces and they have enough
draft equity as well too. That's gonna last time a
lifetime and they get check back next year too, Like
this is really gonna be a formable team. So, um,
with the Sun's not being as great as we thought
they were going to be, the timber Wolves not being
as great as they're gonna be that we thought they
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were going to be, there's a chance. Okay, so he
can get into plane and that would just be one
of the wildest, wildest stories I think of this NBA season. Yeah,
I don't. It's it's really interesting because I've just been
kind of assuming the Warriors are gonna end up in
like top four, but like that doesn't look like that's
happening at least, like they still don't seem to be
able to like fully put it together, you know, any
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anything consistent. The Wolves still kind of going back and
forth struggling the Sun's. I feel like the Sons and
the Jazz are probably the most catchable maybe the Wolves
Wolves in there. Um, but that's still just puts you
in the play in you know exactly. I think I
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think with the Wolves, you're right though, um, because cat
he came out and said, I think a week or
so ago to like, yeah, there was no there's not
a chance in hell. I was gonna be back in January.
So with even that kind of in so and the
Gobert fitting has been weird, you just don't know if
that's going to be something that they're gonna be able
to hold on and mean two and then build a chemistry.
I told my co host on the baseline, Yeah, the
dance to listen, they just had. They had so much
(26:18):
roster turnover that it was kind of fool hardy for
them to expect them just to ascend to a top four. See,
there was just too many things that needed to blend together.
Now you throw injury on top of it, they do
become extremely I think he was just super producer. Gavard say,
they're one of the more catchable teams out there, and Utah,
they're still not settled and what they want to do.
They maybe they may be sellers at the deadline. While
(26:38):
marking In is my most improved player I think of
the of the NBA season. Um, I didn't see him
averaging nine like, not a chance in hell. And I'm
really proud to see that he's he's been hooping in
the way that he is. But they ain't just not
gonna let this fly. Connie Clarkson and guys like that
to you're probably not going to finish in the year
on that team. Interesting. Lebron did it again, continues to
do it father Time, looking like it might be a
(26:59):
good nickname for him. Uh. He's almost averaging a game
right now this season on the season, I don't know, man,
watching that Blazers game, like I see it, I see
a twenty five point deficit. I was like, all right,
let's see you guys tomorrow on the funny pages. Uh.
(27:23):
And it was such a I had to end up
like I tuned out. But a few people text me
like it's it's actually that's something's happening. Uh. And I
missed it, but I watched the highlights and just watching, man,
it's the I just loved towards the end of the game,
Lebron just headhunting Damian Lillard and just kind of getting
back to like, you know what, I'm still I'm feeling
(27:43):
a little. I feel like I got some fuel in
the tank to still head on downhill and get to
the rim off of Damien. I just it wasn't I'm
just I'm glad to see that he's still like he's
just operating at such a high level that everybody's just like,
what are we how do we analyze this? What do
we say about this? Because it's not ending. It doesn't
seem to have occurred to him that he wouldn't have
(28:03):
fuel in the tank, you know, like it's just I mean,
I guess that's not true because he's like one of
the best that like resting while playing, you know, resting,
but he's yeah, he's so good at it. But yeah,
this is what he was expecting would be happening at
this point. What either if you bet against him at
like age forty s will be like a per game,
(28:24):
would you. I mean yeah, like it's hard to even
remember like three, like when he signed with the Lakers,
are like, well, let's see, let's see how many more
years he's got. Yeah, you know, we're like, oh no,
so yeah, in a way, like there's more. The fool's
bet would be to bet against him at this point,
especially when you're looking at the data set you have
of him up to the age thirty eight, Like yeah,
(28:46):
I mean, barring some kind of injury, which doesn't you know, yeah,
then he will play with his son probably. It's amazing,
it really is. It's amazing and that the Barie Smith thing.
You know, hey, you play with my dad, Like for
he's going to see a couple more sun is coming
to the league, including his own crazy Yeah. Yeah, he's
(29:06):
gonna be like telling Pages Stoyakovitch his son. He's like, oh, yeah,
I had I had something for your dad too wild
and You're like, wow, okay. I feel like, well, I'm
looking forward to when he retires because you know, unlike
Tom Brady, I feel like he wouldn't tell us what
the Lebron diet is. That's keeping him, you know, what
what his workout is. But maybe maybe once he's retired
(29:28):
he started sharing it with us. But whatever his equivalent
of TV twelve taco taco, I need to know what
he's eating and what does his workout routine is. And
I'm in taco chicken soft tacos. That's about it. Sometimes
I go bold to get it with the fries inside. Yeah.
(29:50):
Just some some great performances like Evan Mobley. I've been
waiting for him to like go off to see what
his game might look like one day when he's got
his offensive fundamentals and place. Uh. He put up thirty
eight against the Bucks Um looking really good. Maxie had
the Keys against the Kings. He put up a thirty
two and six against the Kings in a in a
(30:12):
road win for the Sixers without Embiid and Harden, which
was pretty cool to see one points down. Yeah, came
back from twenty one points down. Uh, and then the
ant man came with forty four six and four versus
the Rockets. And this brings us to our best and
worst business decision of the week. Some real business decisions
(30:36):
were made. We also have to go back in December
to analyze another poor business decision or great business decision.
But who would you like to start with? Mr Anthony Edwards?
He uh, he dunked on al Shanon in a way
that seemed premeditated. Um, I think I think it would
(30:57):
qualify as a first degree I gotta say, schngers, my man,
you gotta jump a little bit more than that, Just
a little bit more. You're going you're trying to you're
trying to rise up with Anthony Edwards. You gotta give
me a little more than like a very light like
volleyball block type elevation. But I get it. Yeah, Well,
(31:20):
you know what I like. I like his attempt at
verticality there. It was that and he got used. Anthony
Edwards used him to like you know, he was like
it was like a pommel horse a little bit, you know,
and just pushed up a little bit because you see
like the start of his jump, he's jumping from like
inside the circle, like under the free throw line, and
(31:40):
then just like kind of grabs him and like pushes
a little bit. Uh, and then violence Ensu's Yeah, it's
just yeah, when you saw it down like that, just
that like right when it's about to go in, you're like, shanars,
my man, poor business decision there. It's not caught twice right,
it was twice yeah, yeah, and then the second one
(32:01):
was with both hands, and it just seemed, um yeah,
it was just like he was like, oh, I now
recognized that this man is not functionally. This man is
not here, so I can just do this. I can
just go through him with the ball and dunk on him.
And sure enough, as it needs to be defensively, sangars
(32:31):
big Shan my man, sir, you got you gotta look
out below. You know this man though he floated on that. Yeah, yeah,
the two hands, look at that it's body and yeah, shangars,
you gotta get up, my man, and he's looking back like,
(32:51):
wait did he make that? Did it go in? Ah? Man,
that's that's gonna good highlight for him. And look at
Anthony Edward's body position on the rim when his leg
all up, He's like he he just had a party
in your in your house right there. But you know again,
but you love to see it, like you know he
wasn't shying away. Uh, yeah, I do love to see it,
(33:11):
Miles I. I. Also, we're still looking for nominations for
the person who could be known as business decision, the
way that like you know, some people call a d
street clothes with this is somebody we want to call
business decision because they're very smart about the way they
get out of the way when someone's about to dunk
on them. Who who has the best moves when it
(33:33):
comes to making a smart business decision? We have the
opposite of that in in a from last month with
Landry shamming. Landry, look, it was a tough go. He
goes for a game winner, it's not to be and
then Aaron Gordon he's coming, he's he's coming for you, sir,
(33:55):
and you got to decide you gotta make a business decision.
Do you want to be on a poster? Do you
go up possibly injure yourself terribly. We'll just see how
this one played out. Didn't come down and oh shamon
sham it. You could have got real hurt there and
(34:16):
are like calling that and off that's there, but they didn't.
It ended up counting. Yeah, they got challenged and reversed.
My man, he got dunked on then landed on twice
somehow like a wrestling move, like off the top roof.
That was just like whole colden leg dropped him or
that was wow. I mean, look at the way he
(34:37):
tries it. He tries to absorb this. He's like, you
know what this is screen, But the way his spine
curves when it makes contact with Aaron God, I thought
he was high jumping right here. The way he's arching
that back is yeah, he is horizontal to the court.
Then on the way down his head is right underneath
(34:58):
Aaron Gordon's feet, where like he could have arrently just
landed and I used that pun very intentionally, uh like
straight on man's skull. But you're like, luckily was like,
oh gosh, he's like a young man. You gotta be careful. Man.
When I go up like that, I could have really
hurt you. It's a poor business decision. He had to
do it right. So the context of the game is
(35:19):
there's less than have been the left over time. There's
mere seconds cham it had just missed a shot down one.
Then he comes down and it's a breakaway. You have
to put your body on the line. What we are
looking for from our candidate for the NBA Award of
Business Decision uh nickname award winner is somebody who in
(35:42):
a moment like that, was like, it's not worth it,
We're out, Like you know, that would have been the
ultimate business decision. Games on the line and he's like,
I mean he's gonna dunk on me. I don't I
don't want that. So do you want them to run
away or is it when they jump in their like no,
when they kind of just turned and what is more?
(36:03):
What would be more like I guess you know you'll
know when you see the the ultimate business decision, Like
the Supreme Court says, what do you think is it?
Is it just a back turn to be like no,
I never I never wanted a part of this, or
is it a full on vacating the premises. I'm not theatricality,
Like if they build an excuse in where they like
(36:26):
go down to tie their shoe, you know they're like,
oh no, I've slipped right or something like that. I
think you're gonna get somebody who's going to full on
for as sump out at that point and out of
the pain, Like yeah, just keep running right into the right,
(36:47):
right right, or someone's gonna pretend to like you know
when you see sprinters and like qualifying heats and stuff like,
sometimes they pull up lame when they know they're not
going to have race. Listen ahead and be like, no,
I'm not gonna get cooked right now. Someone's no, no, no, no,
it's just like limps away to be like a second
handstring pool. Yeah, but again, let us know. If you
(37:09):
have a famous business decision from years past, please put
that on our radar, because these are the kinds of things.
These are kinds of issues we tackle on this show.
Important issues, all right, should we do it? Go to
more important issues, take a break and go to even
more important issues as in the rapid fire the most
important issues in NBA. Yeah that all right, we'll be
(37:35):
right back and we're back, and Warren Shaw, you're in
the hot seat. My man, good name, that's my uncle
and my grandfather's name. Classic. But I gotta say it's
(38:00):
not gonna be friendly here because you are now in
the hot seat, and it's time for the rapid fire
round of questioning, the most fast paced round of questioning
you've ever heard in podcasting actually NBA podcasting, actually more specifically,
any NBA pod that's done in conjunction with the league
and I Heart Radio we have flex the flex like that.
But you know what I mean. Other podcasts too slow,
(38:20):
we too fast. Be fast. We're gonna ask you a question.
Just try not to labor on the answer. Just give
it right back, chest past that thing, right back to us. Okay,
no tricks involved. And if we start bloviating and expanding
on answer, it's up to you. Warren. Please keep us
going because we want to be able to keep this
title of the fastest podcast. With most podcasts, it is
the guests job to keep the hosts on track as
(38:43):
or not. Have you ever been in one of those
cars with the seat warmer. Imagine if instead of three
levels of hot, there is a fourth level of hot.
That's how hot your hot seat is about to be. Yeah,
I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready, But I think that
puts it in a nice perspective. So I'm I'm proud
of that. I've been working on that all week. Also,
I was like, Wow, you're your car seatwarmers. Yeah, yeah,
(39:06):
I need to get like you. You simply must, Mile,
I simply must, because yeah, we all I do now
is I get like just those heating pads that, like
those chemical ones that yeah, yeah, check them up a
little bit. But I'm on the inside of my underwear.
You know you have cold versions of that too. Yeah,
but like the hot ones, my dermatologist says, if they
are causing chemical burns on my skin, But that's for
(39:26):
me to worry about. Start the clock. Here we go.
We gotta say, please keep this moving man, Yeah, please
keep this moving on, especially when I start talking about
my dermatological business man. I don't know. I didn't know
if I was being tested about it, I jump in.
But yeah, man, we're we're You're always being tested, my man. Uh, Jack,
you want to go first, or you can go first?
(39:46):
Here we go, Here we go, Warren Shaw tell me
this is Jalen Rose's hairline too good to be true?
Uh you said people from that area keep good hairlines,
So I'm gonna say it's not too good to be true.
He's he's he's keeping a rocket. He's good, he's good money.
It's like that is Lego man here. Though he got
Lego man here. That hairline is Lego man. Yeah, I
(40:07):
gotta get best hair in the current NBA. I'm gonna
go with my guy, Jayson Tatum. Oh, come on, he
does have I have noticed that though he has very
strong hairline, he's got that good hair, that good hair.
Oh yeah, I mean his hair, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's like it's it's like it was just painted ones,
(40:29):
painted on by a master. And his beard as a
as a bald dude who can't grow a beard and
a Lakers fan, Jayson Tatum is an affront to my
existence as Paul George has got a really good beard
and a really good hairline. Surprise the future Laker guy.
All right, let's keep it moving, I mean all right,
(40:57):
that is my question for you, though, when when is
Jason Tatum available to become a Laker Because it does
feel like he's got he's got that flirtation with the
Kobe thing happening. I don't know, No, I want to
ask that, all right, give me a contender verse pretender
for a title. Um, I think we've already heard your
thoughts on the Sixers that you know they're not being
(41:17):
the dang Celtics. So as long as Orlando doesn't get
into the playoffs, I think we can cross the Sixers
off Cats pretender straight up, just pretender their solid just
this and not they're not ready just yet. Just give
him another year and then they'll be right up in
the mix. What do they need to become an experience
(41:38):
experience more than anything else. I think, you know, experience
and health, so they can keep that going. I think
next year they're going to be a scary, scary good team.
But other than that, I like them. I just think
they're gonna they're gonna take the lumps in this playoffs.
They're gonna get there, but I think a second round
is probably the most likely. But they're very, very good.
I'm not disrespecting them in anyway, Okay, but you're putting
them in the on the waterfront category because they could
(42:00):
have been a contender. Are not Celtics contender for sure, Like, yeah,
come on, son, do you feel like they've made that
leap mentally? The like Tatum having watched more Celtics games
than me, I've watched them, you know, a fair number
of times. I've watched what he's done to my six ers.
I did not watch any of the swoon where they
(42:21):
lost like three games and the rest of the league
got excited. How real is it? So so Boston has
addressed a lot of their needs in the offseason, especially
when it comes to their bench, and you know, the
addition of Broaden has been so immense for them. Uh
the Timelord being healthy is emense for them as well too.
And they may still make another movie. They clear they
cleared a ross the spot about a week or so ago,
getting rid of Avonley to San Antonio. So they're live
(42:42):
in the market for probably another stretch for maybe another
front court big that can spell Horford or Williams either way.
But to me, I think this is a team that
really just believes mentally and and and what they have
in terms of talent and was looked in a great job.
I think on the sidelines as a coach of the
first year coach to spite all the bs that they
walked into the season with. It's really been great to
see them kind of overcome some of those demons. But
(43:03):
they got do in the playoffs. But they're taking this
regular season seriously and you know, they may not get
sixty wins, but fifty seven wins or whatever that can
still probably get them number one season the East. Speaking
of overcoming demons, Mozilla is also my favorite stand up comedian.
I'm gonna say, I was gonna say. I was like,
is it the humor of Joe Mazilla repowering? It must
(43:23):
be the only royal family I know? Um, all right,
Clippers my last contender verse pretender, uh, pretender. They can't
stay healthy. They can't still healthy. And you know, Jack,
you were on our show in the beginning of the
year and I had a lot of faith and hope
that the Clippers were going to be one of the
great contenders in the Western Conference. But I don't trust them.
(43:45):
Twice playing great, he's been averaging like twenty something in
the last couple of games, etceter etcetera. But I just
don't think they're going to be healthy when it's all
that said and done, And they cannot do it without
both those guys. I'm sorry, like they got to prove
it to me. Yeah, all right, I think that's it
for me. My but further questions, your honor, just you
just let this guy at a Celtics question warrant that
that's that's ridiculous man witness moment. Yes, thank you so much,
(44:08):
my honor. Uh, Mr Shaw, you have the chance to
win ten thousand dollars to make a lay up with
each chance twenty five thousand dollars to make five or
five free throws, or one hundred thousand to make at
least four of five from the depths of the court.
Which challenge? Are you taking a hundred? I'm gonna go
to easy money because I didn't get to play, you know,
(44:30):
past my high school. But I'm so old. I was
around when the mike and drills were right hand left hand.
I feel confident that I can walk over ten k
on that. So, you know, my wife would kill me
if I did, you know, try to take the big
money and missed. I'm taking that easy ten k man
mike and drills for the win. And are you are
you right hand or left handed? I'm right handed and
so on the left side. You're going up with the
left too, like you're you're doing it to the letter
(44:51):
the okay, because I'll do okay. Past guests they when
they do the layup challenge, when I say, well, okay,
on your left too, and they're like, well, I mean
I'll make a lay up from the left side. No
one doing it. Well, now you're faking the funk. You
shouldn't get that. You shouldn't get the tank cake if
you do it that way. Okay, you know what we
gotta I think we should add that. So we might
need to adjust this down. The prize money based on
(45:12):
the fact that Pacers fan made a free throw, a
three pointer, and a half court shot and won a
grand total of five hundred dollars. That had a next game.
I was at the next game and it was giving
out like a thousand dollars for like just running around
or doing like a like a random I was like, yeo,
the cheese out there in New York. So Indiana, all right,
they need to step their game up, could you edge?
(45:35):
And I don't know, like I guess, I guess they
probably said, like this is for an opportunity to win,
win five hundred dollars but that is what you're gonna
do as a very low probability. I mean, if you're
not a professional, who's your state. They got some people
who grew up with basketball, like you think that's what
(45:57):
there's too many of these people. Can We almost bankrupted
ourselves two seasons ago by doing this at the stop
people were smaller mid market team. I don't know, but yeah,
New York was given out cash and I've seen l
A give out cash. So that's why in l A
it was so bad. They'd let you come off the
bench in some games. What's your ultimate NBA jam duo?
(46:21):
If you could mix match across eras post snap kind
of question? Is that? So? But they had all right,
so I'm gonna go with the arcade version. So it
didn't even come out at home before and I'm happen
to be a big draws and petrovits fan, uh so
draws in and Derrek Coleman he would they were in
(46:44):
like the arcade version, but um but not like the
home version like for your for your game consoles, and
I think draws that had passed away or something like
that for the real version got released. But to me,
when I remain my friends used to go, Uh, I was,
I'm just a big draws and fan man, So we're
just a lot of time. It was a lot of
fun playing with them. And then d C as well too. Yeah,
so they got shooting because they can both you know,
(47:06):
stroke it, and then also what they got that Yeah,
he could just throw across the court and then you
know when they slapped the ball, Yeah that's yeah, Yeah,
that would have been dope. Is it worth the NBA
doing an NBA gym like real tournament? Probably a lot
of injuries would happen. But like NBA jam rules and
two on two, but you're allowed to just like chuck
(47:28):
people across the court. Might be interesting. Nineties style playoff basketball, Yeah, yeah,
bring nine playing basketball rules. Just bring the nineties play
just bring back the nineties playoff basketball that the refs
used to call. Uh warm man, you did so good
on the last time, but you really should have kept
this one moving. But that's all right. I'm not gonna
hold it against you. You can put together in all
(47:48):
time for man dunk contest. Who is getting an invite
from you warrant? All right, I'm gonna go m J
dr J Vince Zach Levine Zach Levine interesting. So yeah,
I'll give you a quick story. I wasn't. I was
in Toronto during that All Star break. I was feeling
(48:10):
like how I caught like some sort of crazy bug
or whatever the case it be, and literally watching that
dunk contest made me feel there. I was like puke
and I was like yo, but it just it lifted
my spirits. I think Zach Zack has some really some
really big hops at that time. So he doesn't he
does not he's not a Hall of Famer. He doesn't
meet the mesh of all those other guys I mentioned.
(48:30):
But I really enjoyed that dunk contest. So yeah, I
just like that. It really made you feel better. Like
you're like, I don't know what, woman, You're like, Nah, Doc,
I don't need the vaccine. Just pull up the All
sor contest or Toronto Zach with lights bring me back
to life. That was it was, It was. It was
(48:54):
a while back. Uh. You can go back in time
and watching any single be a game gam from throughout history.
Which game are you choose him or gam or gam? Uh?
Jordan's first chip against the Lakers, so that something Game
(49:14):
five clincher? Yeah, because I thought it was done. Zo
Um after a game one a hand over his mouth.
That's probably the most angry I've ever been at an
NBA player in my life. Because I was young, I
was not regulating my emotions very well. When he hit
that game winner and then put his hand over his
(49:35):
mouth like I don't I don't know what it was.
It really just made me mad as a child on
the other side of that equation. I loved it, and
then I cried when we lost that. I was devastated.
And then after that I was like, you know what,
I like Michael Jordan's That's what turned me. I was like,
(49:58):
you have vanquished my team and I'm I'm but a
seven year old boy. Uh. And then I fully gave
myself to the Jordan hype. But yeah, I remember them
so vividly. It was like so upsetting because it was
always raised to be like lake or magic and everything,
and it was changing in the guard came to Pip
Indeed up magic m hm, he did, he did, he didn't.
(50:18):
Man Again, it brings those bringing back to some of
the great memories, you know, for me and especially when
you're thinking about it in hindsight, like the lore of
it like you know, hey, that was the first of
six and what it meant for for MJ especially at
that time, overcoming the Pistons, etcetera, etce, etcetera. Yeah again
that that was a whole That would have been a
whole vibe to go back and see that and have
that at that moment live or to see like those
games against the Pistons, knowing that this dude hit the
(50:40):
weight room off the strength of them just throwing him about.
I would like to see that that sort of grudge
match energy too, because I just love hearing that those
stories about it, Like, yeah, man, he realized he had
to start lifting weights. Michael Jordans beautifully put. But you
really got to keep things moving in you guys are
so you guys it is your that's good look and
(51:02):
all the compliments aren't gonna get you very far. But
here's the final question, Warren Jack or Miles Jack. That
was that wasn't even like there was was fun. Was
barely started crying. That was a chest pas. That was
a chest pass right now you're on a run. Now
run I had barely even started crying, and he picked me. Warrant.
(51:23):
You are an absolute legend, man, tastes absolute legend, mate,
Gotta thank you so much, Warren, massive mate, legend s mate.
I wish we would see your face you go, oh
(51:44):
my god, thank you brother. I appreciate it. Yeah, in it,
I mean massive man. Yeah, shout out and obviously shout
out the NBA Baseline podcast, mandam for joining us. But Warren,
where can people hot boy? Right? Yeah? I know? Hey yeah, man, Hey,
what might be is? Bro? You're a wasteman. Where's the food?
Where's the food? Brove? I'm a rule of man. You're
(52:04):
a wasteman, not my my yod bro. But anyway, thank
you so much for joining us. Where can people check
you out and listen to you and and support you
and all that kind of stuff? I fell as, I
really do appreciate. You can definitely follow me on Twitter,
I shot supports NBA, follow the show at NBA Basline,
follow my other show too from the non basketball content
at Dope Interviews and my great co host kyl lea
(52:26):
cal Game basically and that's the man and I T
Media Group, etcetera, etcetera. Man, this has been a lot
of fun. Man, truly truly honored and blessed. Man. Appreciate
it so much. You're fantastic and you've you've touched our
hearts even though you picked Jack, you truly have you
truly uh And also for us, if you're interested in
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(52:47):
ease that's be double O S t I E S.
We asked the listeners which NBA star they'd want for
the next five years and our boost These listeners of
the week are at Lakers DS eight two said Yann's
Yoki Luka and then Tatum x X large Popcorn tweeted Yoki, Janice, Luca,
then Cury okay, Steven, Stephen, Stephen Cury. Yeah, I mean
(53:13):
that's something. There is something. It's gonna be really interesting
to see how Stephen Curry ages because he doesn't appear
to be slowing down and his game is is built
for it. So we'll see. And uh Adam capelan uh
six tweeted Janice, Yoki and then Luca. I've never heard
(53:34):
of them. It's wild to me and nobody picked them
beat but okay, um interesting, Hey, shout on my shout
out my NBA gooner's Joel and Beat and Dwight Howard,
who are representing Arsenal this weekend as they defeated Manchester United.
All right, I'll watch I'll watch some Janice games and Jocketch,
but you guys need to You guys need to check
out this and beat guy. He's pretty good. I'm telling you, hey, Jock,
(53:58):
get your free coach on. All right, y'all, thank you
so much for joining us. We'll see you next week.
Take care of yourselfs. Bye bye
The Lakers are making moves that make this Plasian man
very happy, and Philly has jumped into the Eastern Conference
standings with after a wonderful road trip. The Celtics are
still the league's best team. We knew that. And we'll
get into all of that and plenty more with the
host of the Baseline NBA and Don't Interview podcast, Warren
Shaw on today's episode, I'm Miles Gray, then I'm Jack O'Brien,
(00:24):
and this is Miles and yeah, we were. We did
steal that from sixty Minutes, where they say and this
is and then everybody says sixty minutes over top of
one another, or or did Barbara Walters? Alright, alright stands
(00:45):
for peace. I just want to clarify. I gotta say,
Warren Shaw up the Baseline Don't Interviews and a Celtics
fan to the Celtics Belief podcast. Welcome to the show.
How are you man, My dude, thanks so much for
having me man. Really excited to be where. I love
y'all what you've been doing over here to last year.
So excited to be here on Mad Boost. That's all Jabari,
(01:06):
that's all. We're merely He's the conductor. Literally all of
this is scripted. This like this next sentence. Jabari is
one of the most potent producers in podcasting is my
own personal belief. I don't know, he wrote, I don't know.
I don't know what that means. But more so, let
(01:26):
me get a little bit of your background. You grew
up in New York. Correct, you're from New York. I
was born in New York and raising the South Florida
area and show the country unfortunately, yes, and you are
a Celtics but then you are, but you are a
Celtics fan. I am a Celtics fan. That is correct.
What's what's that journey? To take us on that journey?
(01:46):
You know, it's it's it's quite the past. So I
won't bore you or trying to, you know, give you
the cliff notes version. But I think, like most basketball fans,
I was probably a Jordan fan. When I got introduced
to um So, I was kind of in that space.
Um So Jabari, you know, super producer. As I know
you call and would hate this, but I had a
second favorite team and that second favorite team was kind
of Boston because of my co host on the baseline,
(02:08):
he was a big Celtics fan. I think to begin with,
so I was a Jordan guy. Then it was actually
a big Chris Webber guy and Sacramento. Um, so I'm
actually always hating the Lakers, um. And then I think
I really kind of got into the Celtic situation, like
even just right before even KG got there, so when
they were struggling in the Anton Walker days and things
like that as well too. I yeah, I worked for
the Next for a little while as an intern, and um,
(02:30):
you know, it was really interesting because I saw Walker
play and MSG and it was one of those games
he just like he was just dancing and like like
he had like forty five points or whatever, and I
was like, yeah, this squad is hot. So I just
kind of kind of rock up with him from then on.
And then obviously the guy KG, etceter excetera, etcetera, and
that's Bro I've been ever since. Man. Wow, so he's
stuck with them even after Ange came and uh yeah, no,
I'm just playing all right. Yeah. I mean that you
(02:53):
you paid your dues if you were there for the
Antoine Walker era all the way through the you know,
there was some ark years in the desert in between
that and Drew's arrival, and now they're doing all right.
It seems like they're okay. Yeah, I have a question.
What was your favorite Chris Weber signature shoe that he
made with dot do? So I would be lying to
(03:17):
you if I was like, Oh, I was a big
dot dot guy. So you know I couldn't. Anybody can't
even in front of you on that. I know. They
had some black joints, um the wood grains, the sea dubs.
Remember the one that had the spinners in. Oh, no,
I can't. I can't. I can't rock with those, like
I can't do it. Yeah, you don't, man, he only
(03:39):
had wood grain. This one had wood grain. Jack that
is live though, yeah live. He was a dot dot guy.
He started off Nike. No, no, he was with Nike
first and then but then like they gave him a
they gave him with a sea dub like du a
deep cut though. I'm a I'm a big sneaker. I'm
a big sneaker head. And I just remember these were
like such unique moments because I remember in like reading
(04:02):
Slam magazine, I'm like, wow, I really did a full
page ad for this shoe that has wood cream on it. Famously,
Webber met with some Nike executives about re upping and
they pronounced his name tris uh Weber. And that's the
that's of course the backstory of how Steph ended up
with Uh. Yes, that they were like, hey, Stephen, we're
(04:26):
big things Nike said that. He was like, oh cool,
so not signing with you guys. This is a Nike
documentary coming out like on Amazon right now or soon.
I just saw a bunch of stuff on that too.
I'm trying to figure out like how deep they're going
to go and are they like trash and Niking that
do we know? Or kind of like what's the situation
for that. I mean, I think any global brand is
going to have its dark sides to it, so yeah,
(04:47):
I'm sure. I mean, it's it's a monolith at this point,
but I disagree. I actually only trust a documentary that
has made with the cooperation of the global brand that
it's about at another truth. Thank you. Here's the thing, Stefan,
we want to here's the thing, Stevens. If we want, Hey,
we want to do an ad with it's you and
(05:08):
you're long lost relative with the same last name, Marie Curie,
and we think that's going to be just a fantastic
conversation between past and president. But anyway, um, we digress.
The Celtics, yes, yes, yes, the best record in the
league right now, nine straight before the loss of the Magic.
I have a serious question for you, So who are
(05:30):
you more afraid of facing in a seven game series,
the streaking, the surging Philadelphia seventy six or short now
in second or the Orlando Magic, who really seem to
have your number according to Magic fan. So I'm not
even gonna front with you, honestly, So taking to a
serious basketball conversation, Boston struggles with size, and that's really
(05:53):
what it boils down to. Orlando was kind of big
at every position, so to speak. And those are things
like Chicago beat us, you know, be us twice as
well too. Um, you know, they have a lot of
size and pretty much you know, one through five for
the most part, and that's really where Boston hasn't really
been able to figure some of those things out. So, Um,
while Philadelphia is obviously more talented team than Orlando, for
whatever reason, I would be definitely afraid of the Magic.
(06:16):
I think at this stage, especially with Jonathan Isay coming back,
he look good in the little ten minutes he played.
And you know what they've been doing with Boncio and
obviously Folds and anybody else will too. Like it's yeah,
it's wild. Like I said, they just some teams just
have your number, like you alluded to. And I think
that's where it is with Orlando and Boston. For so
you would rather face the seventy sixers then or later.
I just want to like make sure that I get
(06:37):
it crystal clear for the bulletin board material for because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
let's go. I'd rather I'd rather face the seventies sixers. Yeah,
and Warren did just make the little man sign with
his hand about and be uh too small, too small,
too small. Um, it is wild though, Yeah, the Celtics
definitely have the seventy sixers number, like even even though
(07:00):
beat as a big man and you know, pretty big team. Yeah.
But the thing that I just love is with the
magic the energy of the magic fans or like the
Celtics are over, you know what I mean. The Warriors
we cooked them, Okay, the Celtics mostly was it. I
think three and one as a record, they're like we
we're through, We're through. Uh, and I just love that
(07:23):
excitement that happens from like those those like like those
winds of great emotional value to a fandom without it
actually maybe reflecting, you know, because the playoffs is obviously
a completely different, uh proposition. But you know, shout out
to my fans over there in Orlando, were getting very excited.
Can can I just say this one thing? So I
think as when you take your your fandom, so to speak,
(07:44):
there's times where it's like, listen, I need to stay
the f off of Twitter, off of Instagram because people
are just they've lost their complete minds. And I think
it was like Basketball Forever or some aggregate account whatever
put that exact same thing that you said, Miles, you know,
the Orlando magic with the championship East did like, you know,
Wagner and bon Caro and Curry and Clay and and
(08:05):
Tatum and Brown and your heads like an in deference
to them, I was like, what do we do? You know,
as a Laker fan, We're only like, watch if we
beat the Clippers tonight, the memes are going to be ridiculous.
We're holding onto ashes at the moment, So we'll we'll,
we'll find a way to make that nourish our souls. Yeah,
(08:26):
as I just said, and yet plan the parade even
at the All Star break. But Miles, I do I
do have to ask you. You're a fan of Ruey,
You're a fan of the Lakers. Two great loves of
viewers have come together. As Los Angeles is most famous
black and these person I have to say, I would
(08:48):
like to welcome my brother Okay to the Lake show.
Uh you know, I met him and I pretended to
say come to the Lakers, but instead I just said,
it's really nice to meet um. Wow, you're talk like
whoa no way? And I did the thing was like,
hold on, let's see go back to back and I'll
(09:08):
just put my hands straight up. But I mean, I'm
I'm excited about it, you know. The sentimentality aside. I
just I think as a player, I think there's a
good environment to go into because Ruey is like he listens,
he doesn't have an ego, like he will absorb the
wisdom that is collectively around him at the Lakers, and
I think that will only help him. And Jabarri and
(09:28):
I were talking before the show whether or not that means,
you know, what the what the heights were going to
reach I think our t b D But I definitely
have a good feeling about it because at the end
of the day, he's not another guard. Okay, it's not
another guard. He is a big man who can shoot.
He's an analytics guy. Like the analytics people seem to
enjoy his work. So I'm happy because I am. I have,
(09:51):
like through osmosis, through spent a lot of time talking
to NBA with you and superroducer Jabari. I am now
I checked this six or score first, Lakers next. Yeah,
I am poor and obviously lifelong Lebron lover. Uh yeah,
Warren Lebron. What do you think that though he's as
(10:16):
like the super an ass to say he's very good
at basketball, yea. I think the ruly thing though, is
is super dope for them um as you alluded to,
you know, shooting I love for you, like thirty four
percent from the people are not not necessarily in volume,
But I think just a change of scenery is gonna
be helpful for him from being in Washington. You know,
they got a diva and and obviously COO's came as
well too, and he ended up just kind of not
(10:37):
really getting to the opportunities that he wanted to get,
you know, his last game of watching you put up
a thirty piece, right, So I think the Lakers like, yeah,
sign me up, and you know what I mean, get
get cattured one all the way hell up out here,
you know for a couple of second rounders. Was it
three second rounders? And I think that the Ruy Ruey
situation in l a will be actually really really great,
especially with a d coming back. Um, I'm excited for
you all, I really am. I think it's a nice
(10:57):
move and you can read up on him and see
where he takes you in the future. So yeah, solid
moved by Lakers. There was a there was a quote
from Donte Sabonis who was saying, like when they were
at the Staples Center when they were Gonzaga, like like
when he was like, this is where I want to play,
He's like I feel a connection here and he said
that like many years ago. So there's part of me
that like, I just like the energy around it. And
(11:19):
I think also just culturally, like Japanese people, there's a
huge respect for your elders and people who have more
knowledge than you. Like. There are a few clips circulating
from when him and Russ were playing on the Wizards,
of like Russ really trying to like coach him with
some certain things like in the post, and he's like
and you could tell the way he's like he's like listening,
He's not like yea, all right, man, like like it's
time to play. So I think all that combined with
(11:41):
the amount of like collective like wisdom that is there,
I think it's just gonna be just fantastic. So but again,
we'll see, we'll see if the will and the talent
all combined at the right moment. They're they're basically Washington
Wizards West not right, and don't they have like four
formal Wizards team now? After get in Rood past guest
Tray Kirby tweeted a meme of like Nathan Fielder from
(12:04):
Nathan for You, and he said the plan if Lebron
James can win an NBA championship with Wizards. So yeah,
maybe that's where it's head. Yeah, it'll be It'll be
cool anytime somebody joins the Lebron James team. They're joining
you know, they they have the opportunity to learn from
the best basketball mind to ever do it. I think
(12:27):
so will be interesting. I will be watching everybody, so
you know, keep that in mind. Anymore moves. I know
super producer Jabari. I can trust him on a lot
of basketball things. One thing I don't know if I
can trust him on is potential Lakers trades because the
hope springs eternal. Um, but he's got some things out here. Uh,
(12:50):
you know, Bogdan Bogdanovich. Uh. You know. Still there's still
us of the Pacers trade bringing Miles Turner and Buddy Healed,
And that's the only one that really feels like it
moves the needle to me for the Lakers because you
get another defensive stopper and uh, a laser as. I
(13:11):
will only refer to Lakers shooters as because Lebron osen
this season by saying, not a lot of lasers out there.
Um yeah, but some more like a rave, but we
don't have them. Yeah, I don't know. It seems like
those are the things you need the most helping is
shooting and defense, which are important parts of basketball in
(13:32):
my opinion. Yeah, I agree. And you know, if he
was asking earlier, what you know, what do the Lakers
need to solidify this roster? I think it's a time
machine to make that move a little bit earlier. But okay,
I'll deal with it. Oh just a side note for
all the Laker fans out there, did you see the
McDonald's All Americans and it was it was Pages Pages
(13:55):
to Yakovitch's kid is also in there with like Brawnie. Yeah.
I was just like wow, Pages, So okay, like this again,
this is when he's name mentioned ever? Yeah, yeah, Pages,
attention Stoyakovitch bomb and three um one of my favorite
sports center calls. Um. Also, Jabari had changed it so
(14:16):
that it's actually Bojan Bogdanovich, not bogged On. But he
when I started saying that you can't trust Jabari about
about Lakers things, he's uh sabotaged me in the dock
and changed the name. So it was wrong, but I
caught it all good. We can move forward any other
big trades. You guys are kind of keeping an eye on,
not me personally. I'm once I saw my my fellow
(14:40):
black and ees man, I was like, okay, I'm gonna
take a breath a second, but yeah, Warren, what are
you looking at with the with the deadline coming up?
All right? Well, with the deadline, you know, I'll keep
it Laker specific really quickly. If they find a way
to get the Turner situation done, then that really thrust
them back into the Western Conference conversation like tremendously. That
that defensive president, that and the guy who could shoot
(15:01):
the three, assuming you're not giving up Thomas Bryan or
whatever it is as well to you know, to kind
of solidify that bench, then you're really really really great there.
I think the biggest name I would imagine to be
moved is probably Bogdanovitch from Detroit. They did such a
smart thing by acquiring him from a bagage just from Utah.
I have no idea why Age just kind of gave
him up just to get his you know, his old
his old friend Kelly old Nick back over in Utah.
(15:24):
They immediately signed Bogdanovits to a two year deal, so
now any acquiring team doesn't have to be hey, where
he's a rental. They know they can at least keep
him on for another two years that are are decent
and affordable salary. A guy who can give you a
twenty game, plays decent enough defense, and it's really really
helpful usually stay as healthy as well too. I think
he's probably the biggest name that actually does get moved.
(15:45):
The other names John Collins. They've been talking about moving
him for you know, four years now, it seems like
so if that were to happen, i'd, you know, it'd
be be kind of surprised. And the other big name
is actually another name from Washington's Kyle Kuzma, And I
just don't know who has the assets to kind to
make that happen. I love to see Dallas maybe try
to make that happen for them, so so to speak, um,
I think he'd be great alongside Luca and even Christian
(16:06):
Wood at the center position. But I think every all
the other moves out there are going to be minor tweaks,
uh that that I've heard and kind of the rumors
that I've been seeing out there as well too. But
those are the three biggest names that I can see
potentially getting moved this deadline. Does Kuzma have too much
swag for the city of Dallas a question that's been asked.
I'm not I'm not asking it because I wouldn't wanna
(16:27):
antagonize the city of Dallas. It's gone bad for Catholics
before they say his drip is deadly so what better
place than to be in Daly Plaza. Yeah, that could
be a big vibe, but really good. I don't know what. Yeah,
he's you know, he's he's uh, he's very fashionable. And
I mean I'll never forget that one outfit with the
really long sleeves. How could you and then head out
(16:49):
of it? Yes, I'll never that will always just be like, wow,
did his eyebrows at one point like go with the
bleached cybrows? I feel like he did. I think he
plattied out the whole face, like he's got that, he's
got that in his bag. Man, we're such in a
weird place and I think society now where I think
almost anything is acceptable. So that sweater was it was ridiculous,
(17:13):
so the top, but some people like, yo, that's so swag,
you know. I was like, is it though? Really like
we're just gonna accept anything now? Yeah? I rest my case. Bro,
it's it's it's all good. You don't want to wear
like a gigantic overside coojie sweater like was I feel
like the nip of that thing and you look like
a nightmare from like beetlejuice or something, you know what
(17:34):
I mean? Like I get, like, you know, I get
the one dimension of like, whoa, that's a fashion, that's
a move, that's something different. It's just so hard to
see how that's functional, you know what I mean. Like
it's like, well, where your hands and head heavy, just heavy,
and it's like you can't you can't eat it. You
can't eat a chili dog with that sweater on. And
that's the way I look at it. Some it has
(17:56):
to be some function. But again, you can slap somebody
across the room, though, I guess you have the chili
dog fed to you because that's how hard you flex
me on every um. All right. The Wemby race is
getting interesting. Houston had lost thirteen straight before beating the
Wolves on Monday, so they were they were eleven and
(18:16):
twenty three and then lost thirteen in a row or
maybe it was ten and twenty three, ten and thirty
six and then they beat the Wolves. But pretty pretty impressive.
Pretty feel like, yeah, I feel like it could be
could be an interesting place for him. The Spurs to
and eight over the last ten, fourteen and thirty three
overall Pistons we we've always their support for in the past.
(18:42):
That would be a fun team to see him. But
I don't know. I just I'm rooting for the city
of Detroit in general. So even though I hear that,
you know the the Great Lakes hair because like its
own thing. Yeah, I mean, they do have that built
in advantage that you live near the Great Lakes, you
have a strong hairline. Yeah, so I'll go, I'll go
(19:05):
just for that, just for that. What's that Robevic the
oh yeah of Illinois, the governor of Illinois, The governor
of Illinois. Yeah, yeah, Lego, yeah, Lego. Many appreciate absolutely
shout out the Lego man hairlines out there. Um, how
how are you feeling warring? Like is there? Do you
(19:25):
have any sentimental feelings about where you'd like to see
when Binyama go or you're just kind of like whatever,
we'll see what, we'll see where it goes. No, I
I love to see him to Charlotte. Actually, Wow, the
hornets are unintentionally like they didn't know they were going
to be this bad. But I think now that you
this is now your reality. You go all in, so
trade Deadline, you try to get rid of Fobre, you
try to get Gordon Hayward, maybe keep PJ Washington or
(19:47):
whatever the case and be plumbly, etcetera, etcetera. And you say, nah,
Ball has been hurt most of the season, ankle, whatever, whatever.
Imagine pairing him alongside you know, eNB next year, Like
that's that's all the vibes. So I think now that
Charlotte is at this stage, you know what, let's go
all in and see if we can make that happen,
because that could be apparent in the duo that could
(20:07):
really be one of the more amazing ones in the
NBA for years to come. In While Houston and Detroit
or all those things, like I think those are great fits,
San Antonio is the one place I'd hate to see
him go, which is kind of boring for me. You know,
that's probably what will end up at it, right, um,
but I think Charlotte would be the most exciting for
the short term and long term future of the NBA.
That is gonna be wild. Like the lottery this year
(20:28):
is going to be just appointment television. Like I'm going
to be glued to that like I usually am, but
like this is, I'm gonna be nervous before that. Even
though I don't like you know, the Sixers, you know,
the Lakers aren't gonna really have a chance at it,
but just like this is gonna dictate the future the
next you know, however years the Hornets, I'm on board
(20:53):
if they just go full all branding, all uniform design,
everything is that early nineties Hornets look okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that would be a lot of fun. And then yeah,
LaMelo is one of the most fun players to watch
in the league. So and then like a Muggsy Bogs
type guy just for good measure, yeah, you know, I mean,
(21:13):
just like just to fill out the visual landscape of
that roster. I would love to see Wemby. And then
like also the short like you gotta have the biggest
dude and the shortest dude on the team too. I
would just for the media day ops, I feel you, Abo,
And then you can get rid of you know, just
bring Muggsy Bogs back on like a two day contract
or something for media day, just for the just for
the lolls, okay, Michael, and still like put up thirteen assists. Yeah,
(21:37):
all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
back and talk about some great performances from the week.
And we're back. We are, and this is the segment
where we highlight some big time performances over the past week.
(22:00):
I don't know where do we want to start. Jalen
Green put up a career high forty four and a
win over the Wolves, breaking that thirteen game losing streak.
That was a lot of fun. One of the most
exciting finishers to come along in a in a while.
Super fast, super just a lot of fun, super dangerous
coming going at the rack. Also, he had like this
(22:21):
one fade away, like fading to his left. Uh just
rainbow just one of one of the highest arcing shots
that I've seen where it was like, did that happen
on purpose? But I mean it dropped through the center
of the rim. But I feel like I've been seeing
a little bit more of that, like the real the
rainbow shot might be making a comeback. We'll see. I'd
(22:44):
like to see that. Yeah, Look, it's always good to
see my fellow Blazons out there achieving. By the way,
we got to talk about the thunder Shay with thirty
four or five and five in a game winner and
a win over the Nuggets. Okay, so he's just behind
Golden State and a play an opportunity. That's the question
(23:04):
I have about the Lakers when I look at the
West standings. You know, I think a lot of people
have made the comment that like the top five six
in the East looks really dangerous compared to the top
five in the in the West. I don't know if
I agree with that, but the West is just like, so,
(23:25):
who who do you replace in this playoff race? If
if things come together, if Ruy like really starts contributing,
you got to replace the Warriors, the Timberwolves, the Sons,
the Jazz, like I can see, you know, the Clippers,
the MAVs, the Pelicans, the Kings, the Grizzlies, and the Nuggets.
The Kings are in third place right now by themselves.
(23:49):
I love to see it. Somehow, I don't have no will,
you know. Even even they were even saying screaming light
the beam in l A and I was like the
tear went down my face and I was like, go ahead,
but even okay, right now, yeah, they seem like they're
coming on. I was watching or saw something on Instagram
earlier today as well too, you know, you know, because
(24:10):
I can't help myself, I guess, and somebody had put like, okay,
see in their top ten, and I was like, all right,
in top ten the NBA there were number ten, and
I was like, you've you've gone too far. But this
is the nice season, right, like it really is. It
really is great to see what they've done, especially without
chat SoC having like this magical season definitely has got
to be an All Star. But you're just kind of
(24:31):
figuring out, was is this the plan for them? Like
will Charlotte didn't expect to be as bad? Did okay
see it? Expect to be this good at any capacity?
And now that they're here, did you just say screw it,
let's go for it and try to get in, you know,
because they are clearly too far removed from the Wemby
sweepstakes for at this point. Now let's they're just kind
of lose every single single game. But it's it's been
a magical season for for the Oklahoma City Thunder, and
(24:54):
I just I love to see it. And I went
to the season saying, at least I hope they stopped tanking.
I really, I really did, because I felt like, you know,
they have they have enough pieces and they have enough
draft equity as well too. That's gonna last time a
lifetime and they get check back next year too, Like
this is really gonna be a formable team. So, um,
with the Sun's not being as great as we thought
they were going to be, the timber Wolves not being
as great as they're gonna be that we thought they
(25:14):
were going to be, there's a chance. Okay, so he
can get into plane and that would just be one
of the wildest, wildest stories I think of this NBA season. Yeah,
I don't. It's it's really interesting because I've just been
kind of assuming the Warriors are gonna end up in
like top four, but like that doesn't look like that's
happening at least, like they still don't seem to be
able to like fully put it together, you know, any
(25:36):
anything consistent. The Wolves still kind of going back and
forth struggling the Sun's. I feel like the Sons and
the Jazz are probably the most catchable maybe the Wolves
Wolves in there. Um, but that's still just puts you
in the play in you know exactly. I think I
(25:56):
think with the Wolves, you're right though, um, because cat
he came out and said, I think a week or
so ago to like, yeah, there was no there's not
a chance in hell. I was gonna be back in January.
So with even that kind of in so and the
Gobert fitting has been weird, you just don't know if
that's going to be something that they're gonna be able
to hold on and mean two and then build a chemistry.
I told my co host on the baseline, Yeah, the
dance to listen, they just had. They had so much
(26:18):
roster turnover that it was kind of fool hardy for
them to expect them just to ascend to a top four. See,
there was just too many things that needed to blend together.
Now you throw injury on top of it, they do
become extremely I think he was just super producer. Gavard say,
they're one of the more catchable teams out there, and Utah,
they're still not settled and what they want to do.
They maybe they may be sellers at the deadline. While
(26:38):
marking In is my most improved player I think of
the of the NBA season. Um, I didn't see him
averaging nine like, not a chance in hell. And I'm
really proud to see that he's he's been hooping in
the way that he is. But they ain't just not
gonna let this fly. Connie Clarkson and guys like that
to you're probably not going to finish in the year
on that team. Interesting. Lebron did it again, continues to
do it father Time, looking like it might be a
(26:59):
good nickname for him. Uh. He's almost averaging a game
right now this season on the season, I don't know, man,
watching that Blazers game, like I see it, I see
a twenty five point deficit. I was like, all right,
let's see you guys tomorrow on the funny pages. Uh.
(27:23):
And it was such a I had to end up
like I tuned out. But a few people text me
like it's it's actually that's something's happening. Uh. And I
missed it, but I watched the highlights and just watching, man,
it's the I just loved towards the end of the game,
Lebron just headhunting Damian Lillard and just kind of getting
back to like, you know what, I'm still I'm feeling
(27:43):
a little. I feel like I got some fuel in
the tank to still head on downhill and get to
the rim off of Damien. I just it wasn't I'm
just I'm glad to see that he's still like he's
just operating at such a high level that everybody's just like,
what are we how do we analyze this? What do
we say about this? Because it's not ending. It doesn't
seem to have occurred to him that he wouldn't have
(28:03):
fuel in the tank, you know, like it's just I mean,
I guess that's not true because he's like one of
the best that like resting while playing, you know, resting,
but he's yeah, he's so good at it. But yeah,
this is what he was expecting would be happening at
this point. What either if you bet against him at
like age forty s will be like a per game,
(28:24):
would you. I mean yeah, like it's hard to even
remember like three, like when he signed with the Lakers,
are like, well, let's see, let's see how many more
years he's got. Yeah, you know, we're like, oh no,
so yeah, in a way, like there's more. The fool's
bet would be to bet against him at this point,
especially when you're looking at the data set you have
of him up to the age thirty eight, Like yeah,
(28:46):
I mean, barring some kind of injury, which doesn't you know, yeah,
then he will play with his son probably. It's amazing,
it really is. It's amazing and that the Barie Smith thing.
You know, hey, you play with my dad, Like for
he's going to see a couple more sun is coming
to the league, including his own crazy Yeah. Yeah, he's
(29:06):
gonna be like telling Pages Stoyakovitch his son. He's like, oh, yeah,
I had I had something for your dad too wild
and You're like, wow, okay. I feel like, well, I'm
looking forward to when he retires because you know, unlike
Tom Brady, I feel like he wouldn't tell us what
the Lebron diet is. That's keeping him, you know, what
what his workout is. But maybe maybe once he's retired
(29:28):
he started sharing it with us. But whatever his equivalent
of TV twelve taco taco, I need to know what
he's eating and what does his workout routine is. And
I'm in taco chicken soft tacos. That's about it. Sometimes
I go bold to get it with the fries inside. Yeah.
(29:50):
Just some some great performances like Evan Mobley. I've been
waiting for him to like go off to see what
his game might look like one day when he's got
his offensive fundamentals and place. Uh. He put up thirty
eight against the Bucks Um looking really good. Maxie had
the Keys against the Kings. He put up a thirty
two and six against the Kings in a in a
(30:12):
road win for the Sixers without Embiid and Harden, which
was pretty cool to see one points down. Yeah, came
back from twenty one points down. Uh, and then the
ant man came with forty four six and four versus
the Rockets. And this brings us to our best and
worst business decision of the week. Some real business decisions
(30:36):
were made. We also have to go back in December
to analyze another poor business decision or great business decision.
But who would you like to start with? Mr Anthony Edwards?
He uh, he dunked on al Shanon in a way
that seemed premeditated. Um, I think I think it would
(30:57):
qualify as a first degree I gotta say, schngers, my man,
you gotta jump a little bit more than that, Just
a little bit more. You're going you're trying to you're
trying to rise up with Anthony Edwards. You gotta give
me a little more than like a very light like
volleyball block type elevation. But I get it. Yeah, Well,
(31:20):
you know what I like. I like his attempt at
verticality there. It was that and he got used. Anthony
Edwards used him to like you know, he was like
it was like a pommel horse a little bit, you know,
and just pushed up a little bit because you see
like the start of his jump, he's jumping from like
inside the circle, like under the free throw line, and
(31:40):
then just like kind of grabs him and like pushes
a little bit. Uh, and then violence Ensu's Yeah, it's
just yeah, when you saw it down like that, just
that like right when it's about to go in, you're like, shanars,
my man, poor business decision there. It's not caught twice right,
it was twice yeah, yeah, and then the second one
(32:01):
was with both hands, and it just seemed, um yeah,
it was just like he was like, oh, I now
recognized that this man is not functionally. This man is
not here, so I can just do this. I can
just go through him with the ball and dunk on him.
And sure enough, as it needs to be defensively, sangars
(32:31):
big Shan my man, sir, you got you gotta look
out below. You know this man though he floated on that. Yeah, yeah,
the two hands, look at that it's body and yeah, shangars,
you gotta get up, my man, and he's looking back like,
(32:51):
wait did he make that? Did it go in? Ah? Man,
that's that's gonna good highlight for him. And look at
Anthony Edward's body position on the rim when his leg
all up, He's like he he just had a party
in your in your house right there. But you know again,
but you love to see it, like you know he
wasn't shying away. Uh, yeah, I do love to see it,
(33:11):
Miles I. I. Also, we're still looking for nominations for
the person who could be known as business decision, the
way that like you know, some people call a d
street clothes with this is somebody we want to call
business decision because they're very smart about the way they
get out of the way when someone's about to dunk
on them. Who who has the best moves when it
(33:33):
comes to making a smart business decision? We have the
opposite of that in in a from last month with
Landry shamming. Landry, look, it was a tough go. He
goes for a game winner, it's not to be and
then Aaron Gordon he's coming, he's he's coming for you, sir,
(33:55):
and you got to decide you gotta make a business decision.
Do you want to be on a poster? Do you
go up possibly injure yourself terribly. We'll just see how
this one played out. Didn't come down and oh shamon
sham it. You could have got real hurt there and
(34:16):
are like calling that and off that's there, but they didn't.
It ended up counting. Yeah, they got challenged and reversed.
My man, he got dunked on then landed on twice
somehow like a wrestling move, like off the top roof.
That was just like whole colden leg dropped him or
that was wow. I mean, look at the way he
(34:37):
tries it. He tries to absorb this. He's like, you
know what this is screen, But the way his spine
curves when it makes contact with Aaron God, I thought
he was high jumping right here. The way he's arching
that back is yeah, he is horizontal to the court.
Then on the way down his head is right underneath
(34:58):
Aaron Gordon's feet, where like he could have arrently just
landed and I used that pun very intentionally, uh like
straight on man's skull. But you're like, luckily was like,
oh gosh, he's like a young man. You gotta be careful. Man.
When I go up like that, I could have really
hurt you. It's a poor business decision. He had to
do it right. So the context of the game is
(35:19):
there's less than have been the left over time. There's
mere seconds cham it had just missed a shot down one.
Then he comes down and it's a breakaway. You have
to put your body on the line. What we are
looking for from our candidate for the NBA Award of
Business Decision uh nickname award winner is somebody who in
(35:42):
a moment like that, was like, it's not worth it,
We're out, Like you know, that would have been the
ultimate business decision. Games on the line and he's like,
I mean he's gonna dunk on me. I don't I
don't want that. So do you want them to run
away or is it when they jump in their like no,
when they kind of just turned and what is more?
(36:03):
What would be more like I guess you know you'll
know when you see the the ultimate business decision, Like
the Supreme Court says, what do you think is it?
Is it just a back turn to be like no,
I never I never wanted a part of this, or
is it a full on vacating the premises. I'm not theatricality,
Like if they build an excuse in where they like
(36:26):
go down to tie their shoe, you know they're like,
oh no, I've slipped right or something like that. I
think you're gonna get somebody who's going to full on
for as sump out at that point and out of
the pain, Like yeah, just keep running right into the right,
(36:47):
right right, or someone's gonna pretend to like you know
when you see sprinters and like qualifying heats and stuff like,
sometimes they pull up lame when they know they're not
going to have race. Listen ahead and be like, no,
I'm not gonna get cooked right now. Someone's no, no, no, no,
it's just like limps away to be like a second
handstring pool. Yeah, but again, let us know. If you
(37:09):
have a famous business decision from years past, please put
that on our radar, because these are the kinds of things.
These are kinds of issues we tackle on this show.
Important issues, all right, should we do it? Go to
more important issues, take a break and go to even
more important issues as in the rapid fire the most
important issues in NBA. Yeah that all right, we'll be
(37:35):
right back and we're back, and Warren Shaw, you're in
the hot seat. My man, good name, that's my uncle
and my grandfather's name. Classic. But I gotta say it's
(38:00):
not gonna be friendly here because you are now in
the hot seat, and it's time for the rapid fire
round of questioning, the most fast paced round of questioning
you've ever heard in podcasting actually NBA podcasting, actually more specifically,
any NBA pod that's done in conjunction with the league
and I Heart Radio we have flex the flex like that.
But you know what I mean. Other podcasts too slow,
(38:20):
we too fast. Be fast. We're gonna ask you a question.
Just try not to labor on the answer. Just give
it right back, chest past that thing, right back to us. Okay,
no tricks involved. And if we start bloviating and expanding
on answer, it's up to you. Warren. Please keep us
going because we want to be able to keep this
title of the fastest podcast. With most podcasts, it is
the guests job to keep the hosts on track as
(38:43):
or not. Have you ever been in one of those
cars with the seat warmer. Imagine if instead of three
levels of hot, there is a fourth level of hot.
That's how hot your hot seat is about to be. Yeah,
I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready, But I think that
puts it in a nice perspective. So I'm I'm proud
of that. I've been working on that all week. Also,
I was like, Wow, you're your car seatwarmers. Yeah, yeah,
(39:06):
I need to get like you. You simply must, Mile,
I simply must, because yeah, we all I do now
is I get like just those heating pads that, like
those chemical ones that yeah, yeah, check them up a
little bit. But I'm on the inside of my underwear.
You know you have cold versions of that too. Yeah,
but like the hot ones, my dermatologist says, if they
are causing chemical burns on my skin, But that's for
(39:26):
me to worry about. Start the clock. Here we go.
We gotta say, please keep this moving man, Yeah, please
keep this moving on, especially when I start talking about
my dermatological business man. I don't know. I didn't know
if I was being tested about it, I jump in.
But yeah, man, we're we're You're always being tested, my man. Uh, Jack,
you want to go first, or you can go first?
(39:46):
Here we go, Here we go, Warren Shaw tell me
this is Jalen Rose's hairline too good to be true?
Uh you said people from that area keep good hairlines,
So I'm gonna say it's not too good to be true.
He's he's he's keeping a rocket. He's good, he's good money.
It's like that is Lego man here. Though he got
Lego man here. That hairline is Lego man. Yeah, I
(40:07):
gotta get best hair in the current NBA. I'm gonna
go with my guy, Jayson Tatum. Oh, come on, he
does have I have noticed that though he has very
strong hairline, he's got that good hair, that good hair.
Oh yeah, I mean his hair, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's like it's it's like it was just painted ones,
(40:29):
painted on by a master. And his beard as a
as a bald dude who can't grow a beard and
a Lakers fan, Jayson Tatum is an affront to my
existence as Paul George has got a really good beard
and a really good hairline. Surprise the future Laker guy.
All right, let's keep it moving, I mean all right,
(40:57):
that is my question for you, though, when when is
Jason Tatum available to become a Laker Because it does
feel like he's got he's got that flirtation with the
Kobe thing happening. I don't know, No, I want to
ask that, all right, give me a contender verse pretender
for a title. Um, I think we've already heard your
thoughts on the Sixers that you know they're not being
(41:17):
the dang Celtics. So as long as Orlando doesn't get
into the playoffs, I think we can cross the Sixers
off Cats pretender straight up, just pretender their solid just
this and not they're not ready just yet. Just give
him another year and then they'll be right up in
the mix. What do they need to become an experience
(41:38):
experience more than anything else. I think, you know, experience
and health, so they can keep that going. I think
next year they're going to be a scary, scary good team.
But other than that, I like them. I just think
they're gonna they're gonna take the lumps in this playoffs.
They're gonna get there, but I think a second round
is probably the most likely. But they're very, very good.
I'm not disrespecting them in anyway, Okay, but you're putting
them in the on the waterfront category because they could
(42:00):
have been a contender. Are not Celtics contender for sure, Like, yeah,
come on, son, do you feel like they've made that
leap mentally? The like Tatum having watched more Celtics games
than me, I've watched them, you know, a fair number
of times. I've watched what he's done to my six ers.
I did not watch any of the swoon where they
(42:21):
lost like three games and the rest of the league
got excited. How real is it? So so Boston has
addressed a lot of their needs in the offseason, especially
when it comes to their bench, and you know, the
addition of Broaden has been so immense for them. Uh
the Timelord being healthy is emense for them as well too.
And they may still make another movie. They clear they
cleared a ross the spot about a week or so ago,
getting rid of Avonley to San Antonio. So they're live
(42:42):
in the market for probably another stretch for maybe another
front court big that can spell Horford or Williams either way.
But to me, I think this is a team that
really just believes mentally and and and what they have
in terms of talent and was looked in a great job.
I think on the sidelines as a coach of the
first year coach to spite all the bs that they
walked into the season with. It's really been great to
see them kind of overcome some of those demons. But
(43:03):
they got do in the playoffs. But they're taking this
regular season seriously and you know, they may not get
sixty wins, but fifty seven wins or whatever that can
still probably get them number one season the East. Speaking
of overcoming demons, Mozilla is also my favorite stand up comedian.
I'm gonna say, I was gonna say. I was like,
is it the humor of Joe Mazilla repowering? It must
(43:23):
be the only royal family I know? Um, all right,
Clippers my last contender verse pretender, uh, pretender. They can't
stay healthy. They can't still healthy. And you know, Jack,
you were on our show in the beginning of the
year and I had a lot of faith and hope
that the Clippers were going to be one of the
great contenders in the Western Conference. But I don't trust them.
(43:45):
Twice playing great, he's been averaging like twenty something in
the last couple of games, etceter etcetera. But I just
don't think they're going to be healthy when it's all
that said and done, And they cannot do it without
both those guys. I'm sorry, like they got to prove
it to me. Yeah, all right, I think that's it
for me. My but further questions, your honor, just you
just let this guy at a Celtics question warrant that
that's that's ridiculous man witness moment. Yes, thank you so much,
(44:08):
my honor. Uh, Mr Shaw, you have the chance to
win ten thousand dollars to make a lay up with
each chance twenty five thousand dollars to make five or
five free throws, or one hundred thousand to make at
least four of five from the depths of the court.
Which challenge? Are you taking a hundred? I'm gonna go
to easy money because I didn't get to play, you know,
(44:30):
past my high school. But I'm so old. I was
around when the mike and drills were right hand left hand.
I feel confident that I can walk over ten k
on that. So, you know, my wife would kill me
if I did, you know, try to take the big
money and missed. I'm taking that easy ten k man
mike and drills for the win. And are you are
you right hand or left handed? I'm right handed and
so on the left side. You're going up with the
left too, like you're you're doing it to the letter
(44:51):
the okay, because I'll do okay. Past guests they when
they do the layup challenge, when I say, well, okay,
on your left too, and they're like, well, I mean
I'll make a lay up from the left side. No
one doing it. Well, now you're faking the funk. You
shouldn't get that. You shouldn't get the tank cake if
you do it that way. Okay, you know what we
gotta I think we should add that. So we might
need to adjust this down. The prize money based on
(45:12):
the fact that Pacers fan made a free throw, a
three pointer, and a half court shot and won a
grand total of five hundred dollars. That had a next game.
I was at the next game and it was giving
out like a thousand dollars for like just running around
or doing like a like a random I was like, yeo,
the cheese out there in New York. So Indiana, all right,
they need to step their game up, could you edge?
(45:35):
And I don't know, like I guess, I guess they
probably said, like this is for an opportunity to win,
win five hundred dollars but that is what you're gonna
do as a very low probability. I mean, if you're
not a professional, who's your state. They got some people
who grew up with basketball, like you think that's what
(45:57):
there's too many of these people. Can We almost bankrupted
ourselves two seasons ago by doing this at the stop
people were smaller mid market team. I don't know, but yeah,
New York was given out cash and I've seen l
A give out cash. So that's why in l A
it was so bad. They'd let you come off the
bench in some games. What's your ultimate NBA jam duo?
(46:21):
If you could mix match across eras post snap kind
of question? Is that? So? But they had all right,
so I'm gonna go with the arcade version. So it
didn't even come out at home before and I'm happen
to be a big draws and petrovits fan, uh so
draws in and Derrek Coleman he would they were in
(46:44):
like the arcade version, but um but not like the
home version like for your for your game consoles, and
I think draws that had passed away or something like
that for the real version got released. But to me,
when I remain my friends used to go, Uh, I was,
I'm just a big draws and fan man, So we're
just a lot of time. It was a lot of
fun playing with them. And then d C as well too. Yeah,
so they got shooting because they can both you know,
(47:06):
stroke it, and then also what they got that Yeah,
he could just throw across the court and then you
know when they slapped the ball, Yeah that's yeah, Yeah,
that would have been dope. Is it worth the NBA
doing an NBA gym like real tournament? Probably a lot
of injuries would happen. But like NBA jam rules and
two on two, but you're allowed to just like chuck
(47:28):
people across the court. Might be interesting. Nineties style playoff basketball, Yeah, yeah,
bring nine playing basketball rules. Just bring the nineties play
just bring back the nineties playoff basketball that the refs
used to call. Uh warm man, you did so good
on the last time, but you really should have kept
this one moving. But that's all right. I'm not gonna
hold it against you. You can put together in all
(47:48):
time for man dunk contest. Who is getting an invite
from you warrant? All right, I'm gonna go m J
dr J Vince Zach Levine Zach Levine interesting. So yeah,
I'll give you a quick story. I wasn't. I was
in Toronto during that All Star break. I was feeling
(48:10):
like how I caught like some sort of crazy bug
or whatever the case it be, and literally watching that
dunk contest made me feel there. I was like puke
and I was like yo, but it just it lifted
my spirits. I think Zach Zack has some really some
really big hops at that time. So he doesn't he
does not he's not a Hall of Famer. He doesn't
meet the mesh of all those other guys I mentioned.
(48:30):
But I really enjoyed that dunk contest. So yeah, I
just like that. It really made you feel better. Like
you're like, I don't know what, woman, You're like, Nah, Doc,
I don't need the vaccine. Just pull up the All
sor contest or Toronto Zach with lights bring me back
to life. That was it was, It was. It was
(48:54):
a while back. Uh. You can go back in time
and watching any single be a game gam from throughout history.
Which game are you choose him or gam or gam? Uh?
Jordan's first chip against the Lakers, so that something Game
(49:14):
five clincher? Yeah, because I thought it was done. Zo
Um after a game one a hand over his mouth.
That's probably the most angry I've ever been at an
NBA player in my life. Because I was young, I
was not regulating my emotions very well. When he hit
that game winner and then put his hand over his
(49:35):
mouth like I don't I don't know what it was.
It really just made me mad as a child on
the other side of that equation. I loved it, and
then I cried when we lost that. I was devastated.
And then after that I was like, you know what,
I like Michael Jordan's That's what turned me. I was like,
(49:58):
you have vanquished my team and I'm I'm but a
seven year old boy. Uh. And then I fully gave
myself to the Jordan hype. But yeah, I remember them
so vividly. It was like so upsetting because it was
always raised to be like lake or magic and everything,
and it was changing in the guard came to Pip
Indeed up magic m hm, he did, he did, he didn't.
(50:18):
Man Again, it brings those bringing back to some of
the great memories, you know, for me and especially when
you're thinking about it in hindsight, like the lore of
it like you know, hey, that was the first of
six and what it meant for for MJ especially at
that time, overcoming the Pistons, etcetera, etce, etcetera. Yeah again
that that was a whole That would have been a
whole vibe to go back and see that and have
that at that moment live or to see like those
games against the Pistons, knowing that this dude hit the
(50:40):
weight room off the strength of them just throwing him about.
I would like to see that that sort of grudge
match energy too, because I just love hearing that those
stories about it, Like, yeah, man, he realized he had
to start lifting weights. Michael Jordans beautifully put. But you
really got to keep things moving in you guys are
so you guys it is your that's good look and
(51:02):
all the compliments aren't gonna get you very far. But
here's the final question, Warren Jack or Miles Jack. That
was that wasn't even like there was was fun. Was
barely started crying. That was a chest pas. That was
a chest pass right now you're on a run. Now
run I had barely even started crying, and he picked me. Warrant.
(51:23):
You are an absolute legend, man, tastes absolute legend, mate,
Gotta thank you so much, Warren, massive mate, legend s mate.
I wish we would see your face you go, oh
(51:44):
my god, thank you brother. I appreciate it. Yeah, in it,
I mean massive man. Yeah, shout out and obviously shout
out the NBA Baseline podcast, mandam for joining us. But Warren,
where can people hot boy? Right? Yeah? I know? Hey yeah, man, Hey,
what might be is? Bro? You're a wasteman. Where's the food?
Where's the food? Brove? I'm a rule of man. You're
(52:04):
a wasteman, not my my yod bro. But anyway, thank
you so much for joining us. Where can people check
you out and listen to you and and support you
and all that kind of stuff? I fell as, I
really do appreciate. You can definitely follow me on Twitter,
I shot supports NBA, follow the show at NBA Basline,
follow my other show too from the non basketball content
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(52:26):
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Media Group, etcetera, etcetera. Man, this has been a lot
of fun. Man, truly truly honored and blessed. Man. Appreciate
it so much. You're fantastic and you've you've touched our
hearts even though you picked Jack, you truly have you
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We asked the listeners which NBA star they'd want for
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(53:13):
that's something. There is something. It's gonna be really interesting
to see how Stephen Curry ages because he doesn't appear
to be slowing down and his game is is built
for it. So we'll see. And uh Adam capelan uh
six tweeted Janice, Yoki and then Luca. I've never heard
(53:34):
of them. It's wild to me and nobody picked them
beat but okay, um interesting, Hey, shout on my shout
out my NBA gooner's Joel and Beat and Dwight Howard,
who are representing Arsenal this weekend as they defeated Manchester United.
All right, I'll watch I'll watch some Janice games and Jocketch,
but you guys need to You guys need to check
out this and beat guy. He's pretty good. I'm telling you, hey, Jock,
(53:58):
get your free coach on. All right, y'all, thank you
so much for joining us. We'll see you next week.
Take care of yourselfs. Bye bye
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