In this edition of Trend Fu: The Legend Continues…, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the Bondi Beach shooting, the murder of Rob Reiner (featuring a truly unhinged Trump response), Merriam-Webster's word of the year: Slop, Virginia Christmas tree farms vs AI farms, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Remind me.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I looked up. I looked up gung ho. Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
They had a movie with Michael Keaton's Gotta Be Racist,
the movie with Michael Keaton.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The phrase.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I was like, oh, because I was every time I
come across like something that's just in our vernacular.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
That's now.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I just look it up because it's like, I remember,
last last time I did this, I looked up Cakewalk.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Which is race.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But gung ho is it's not necessarily racist, but it's
definitely comes from imperialism.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, it's a misinterpretation of a Chinese phrase.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
But thank god, it's not like the most racist interpretation
you can think of. So I still still feel like
you can use gung Ho.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Feels a good phrase. Gung Ho comes from the Chinese
phrase gung hey, meaning work together, a slogan for Chinese
industrial operatives in the nineteen thirties. Gung Ho, I feel
like in when I hear it, is like, man, that
guy's really gung ho.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, it's like yeah, like he like P Diddy, that
guy's gung ho.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Guy's gung ho for his grind set.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
This is I mean wild though too, because when you
said that, I was like the Michael Keaton movie about
the Japanese carmaker and the Pennsylvania factory, and then I'm like, wait,
they talk about a Chinese phrase to do some like
eighties Japanese shit. Very did you do you ever see them?
Like Keaton movie nineteen eighty six movie where Michael Keaton
is he has to like get his auto plant going,
(01:36):
but these Japanese people come through to like show him
how shit's done. It's very like, you guys do shit
like this and we do it like this. And then
they find a harmonious middle, meaning they listen to Getty
wada Abe.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
They all like get together and have like drunk farmers. Yeah,
are the American version, dude? Is it like, oh you
got underdog tail of Americans being fucking idiots?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Just two clashing cultures, man. I think they learned from
each other. Man, they learn from each other.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's actually good when you forget to screw on some
of the parts. That's something to those people don't care.
We like like tapering.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Damn gung hose got a thirty nine percent?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How probably a bunch of freaking Japanese film critics.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah right, you know my mom, Yeah, Miles is mom.
I freget that. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I don't want to I don't want to say anything.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well you you kept going.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It was pretty specific.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Malady your mom.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Mom.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But it was so funny though too. I remember back
in the day, though, we would be so excited to
just see Asian people and it didn't even matter the
racism because you're like, oh my god, dude, they're talking
about Asians. Oh it's bad. Whatever, he We'll take what
we can get.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We saw the new Red Dawn remake.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Like my mom's a even has she still will watch
tea House of August Moon, which is Marlon Brando doing yellow.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Face like it's.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I don't even know if they make this shit anymore,
like like to buy, but my mom she has that
shit on DVD. She was like, bro, I love Marlon Brando.
I'm like, mom, this is fucked up.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Marlon Brando is definitely one of those people like I
talk about John Belushi, the people who are like past
generations get away with it. Damn man, they're fucking this
guy's a genius and I just like don't see it
at all, and it's just like they must have It's
like someone who's like inventing a light bulbinger, just like, yeah,
(03:43):
impressive to me?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is it? Like what do the ones get him? The
real his big credits is like what Stanley Kowowski and
Street Card name desire or like on the water Front.
I feel like when I think of Marlon Brando's like
quote unquote like actings are like.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
A right.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And I'm like all right or yeah, and I'm like, bro,
you could have hit.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He's always yelling some ship. That's what I think of
for me is Brandon.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The reason my mom looks passive because she.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Just or his late era where he's fat and sweaty
all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And yeah, he looks like one of his own creations
from the Island of Doctor Moreau.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
The But like for my mom, it's just because she
was so enamored with.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
HER's like he's so handsome.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
She's so handsome that I like when he plays the
Japanese character Sakini.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I don't see that either, Like he doesn't look
particularly handsome to me. Does he see him that handsome?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's I think that's like the Asian game.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, did what's his name?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Did Homeboy from Kung Fu look particularly like anything.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
David Carrody the hottest man. But I mean, that's that's
impossible to look back and I never.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Watched that show.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Was he supposed to be Asian in that? Or was
he supposed to be No?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah? Was he? Because I was like, who the fuck
is you? The legend continued because I think when we
were young, the legend continues was out because kunk there
was the original kung fu show, right, and then the
legend continues was the one that was on the nineties.
When I was like, who the fuck are these people?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
All I remember is that the show is incredibly boring
for something called kung fu, and there wasn't a lot
of fighting.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It wasn't like a Western where he just goes from
town to town and there's something particularly interesting. I love
how weird about catch these Hands?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
We're not even looking to see? Okay, fine kung Fu?
Oh my god, in which Qui chang Kin returns. Who's
Qui chang Kin?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Please tell me it's not David?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know, you know it is.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's my boys throw hey, but you throw Caine on
there because you know he's half Oh yeah, look he
they like made him.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I mean they shaved his head and then like, I
don't know. I think they were like, he's his eyes
when he kind of squints them, could could do it?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, he's like they just told the director told them
to do fucking safety squint. Yeah, and they yellowed him
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
God damn.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh, so he is so Qui Chang Kine orphan son
of the of an American Thomas Henry Kane and a
Chinese woman Qui Lynn.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, And I wonder how that happened.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Hey, don't worry, don't don't ask how we got white
in our families either, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But Bruce, Bruce Lee, your family was supposed to be
Bruce Lee was supposed to star in that. That was
his project. And then they were like.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Wow, and Carrodene is second on the fucking cause she
what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Why what was he? Please tell me he's Asian or
some ship bro.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
All right, if he grew up in Oakland, maybe I'll give.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Him Hello the Internet And welcome to this trend edition
of Daily That Guy. My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm
(07:05):
thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles ground Man.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah. Okay, I'm just getting over the line. I'm just
getting over the line here as we get to Friday.
Thank you for everybody who subbed in my stead as
I was dealing with wasn't quite the flu. I don't know.
This is one of these things like we couldn't put
the finger on it. But I was Look.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You were also still submitting stories to the dock while
you were sick.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Because I'm a millennial who doesn't know how to rest,
and therefore I was just reading about all that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I appreciate terrible treats we have.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
No, No, it's it's my fault, Jack, It's society's fault.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Society's fault, society's fault. All right, Well, this is the
episode where we tell you what was happening over the weekend. Uh,
and also let you get to know us a little
bit better by telling you some things that we think
are overrated, underrated. Miles, you want to kick us off
with something you think is under rated.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Under rated? Uh? That we are not talking about Erica
Kirk in the context of Sean Puffy Combs. She is
puff Daddy. She is doing what puff Daddy did with
the notorious b I g to whatever he's.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Going to do a remix b every step you take.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes, she's about to be dancing in the rain, climbing
up mountains with kids and ship all of that, all
of all of the it's it's like it's like, so
you know, like, uh, I think we all saw this,
you know, in real time, right right after Biggie died,
Like that suddenly made puff Daddy even bigger, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There's a lot of question that ship, like it was
everywhere was like Popscott like it was a double dutch
game that he had been timing out and here I go,
miss you big. Oh how did you have that song
written already?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh? Sorry that song? Okay? So I was with Sting.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Actually this is a really I was telling me. Recently
they watched the Puff Daddy documentary and they were like,
and you know, he killed Biggie too.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I so I started watching that. That was Blair who
was saying that.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Blair, that's right, like matter of fact, that's just like
what happened. I was I don't think that's the official
well story.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I always every thing like when white people say very
matter of factly things about hip hop, even if they
just watched the document and I go hmm, and then
I started watching it and I'm at the point where
they were talking about how basically, uh that Puff Daddy
was really getting like the South Side crypts in LA
to like putting pressure on them to kill Tupac, and
like they sort of paint this whole picture about how
(09:33):
Pock and Big like we're really good friends, but Puffy
like just didn't have the same poll with Biggie and
he's like, I need to fucking figure this shit out.
All that to say, with Erica Kirk, it's a similar
thing where like a lot of I mean even to
a more extreme extent, because at least bad Boy was
a label and there are other artists, but let's be real, Uh,
Biggie was the one bringing in all the money and
(09:55):
all the the new bad Boy, and she the way,
like there's all this getting out in public to the
point where even like the people who support Turning Point
are like, it's kind of like not doesn't seem like
she's grieving, kind of seems like she's just kind of
like taking this thing by the reins. And I just
feel like we we should use the the example of
puff Daddy to realize that this is a thing that
(10:17):
happens when the popin member of a crew you know,
is lost. You got to figure out how to keep
the money machine on, because especially with like Charlie Kirk,
they still post from his Twitter account, they still post
from like the YouTube channel. There's no sense of like
sanctity around that. They're like, no, this feed, this RSS
(10:38):
feed is so fucking valuable. We cannot have that turnoff
for a moment. And I just see those.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Are like the posthumous Tupac tracks where like he had
these all stored up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, because it's also like if you see the other
people in the Turning Point Crew, they also do other
versions a crew, the Turning Point.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Crew pop member of the Points.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Other people like we miss you, Charlie, I remember you
this you used to love Sweet Potato Pie, and like
to the point where it just feels like they're evoking
the name to get engagement. And because I think it's
really clear in this era of social media and like
digital consumption, you can kind of see you can kind
of draw a line to why certain things are posted
in the way that they are. So again, like I
(11:22):
don't know if erg Kirk had anything to do with
Tupac's murder. But again, I just see similarities and I'm
just saying, like, I think this is a good example
of looking at somebody who I'm not. You have trouble
wondering like did they mean a lot to you? Or
do you know that the brand means a lot to you?
And I'm just having trouble figuring that out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And a lot of people will say it's sexist to
say that she's like being opportunist. It's sexist not to
compare her to puff Daddy. Okay, if it was if
it was a man who was stepping in and being like,
I'm doing five Charlie interviews a day about like you
(12:03):
know how much I miss him, But then like being
on there, uh, not not really seeming to it's I
feel like we'd we'd have we'd be having that conversation.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But it is a very big eie thing where everyone's
grifting on the moment in ways, like in every way
they can, Like even Candice Owens has like this whole
conspiracy theory beef going with them because it's getting her
the most engagement fucking ever to be stuff like what
are these Egyptian planes that were following Charlie around like
just deird shit all the time. What is that? What
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is it?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Seems weird to me.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm just asking a question.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm just following. I'm following the questions, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I'm just I'm just getting some engagement.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Baby, That's right, all right? My underrated is just like
the temporary insanity of like being Christmas brains, being like
drunk on the holiday season, Like not drunk on Christmas Day,
but drunk on like Christmas.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You know what I mean? Do you like like I
don't like, I don't guess this brain. I get the
Christmas brain part, like you've completely lost yourself to the idea.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I just like notice more and more like each year
that the world all collectively loses its fucking mind gets
like holiday season induced shit facedness that lasts for a
couple of weeks. We're all just sort of like doing
things we normally wouldn't like what I think you see
the candy cane. I'd say the candy cane is a
(13:31):
great example. I've talked before, like it tastes like toothpaste,
but because it's got these memories and iconography tied to it,
we accept it as like a classic candy for exactly
three weeks a year. Oh yeah, yeah, we're just like,
are you adults day after?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Do you see adults eating them?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean they're putting them out, I know, but I have.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Not seen I've only seen children eating candy canes.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But why are they doing that? Nerds rope exists? What
is happening?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah? Call that like, yeah you should call it like
Rudolph's rain. Rudolph rains are ropes.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, there you go, perfect Rudolph Dix. Nah, Rudolf Rains
is better. Yeah yeah, but yeah it just maybe make
a make a Nerds rope that is striped red and white.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
What else do you see? Okay, so the candy like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Music, I'm just finding myself going back to the same
forty song playlist, and it hits harder than like any
music I listened to all year. Like normally, I'm like,
I want to listen to new music, I want to hear,
you know, new stuff that's interesting, and then for two
weeks I'm just like this one, the same one every year.
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I had holiday parties this weekend and just did my
standard thing. I've talked about this before, wearing I have
like a Christmas light necklace from like a drive in
movie during the pandemic when we were all going to
like outdoor drive in theaters during the pandemic. Yeah, and
and it's still it's still going. It's true miracle, but
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it was such a hit. Everyone's just here like that
shit is essentially the equivalent of like bringing one of
those light up swords that you get it, like did
they sell out outside of the circuits, Like it's essentially
like just the cheapest light up bullshit and you wear
it to a Christmas party and everyone's like.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yo, exactly, you look great, Like Jack, get in here?
Can I see? Can you turn it on?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I feel like we watched we watched some holiday movies,
uh for for our holiday episodes. That was like right
outside of my normal Christmas window and so I could
like see them with clear eyes, you know, Like I
was like, damn, this movie is fucked up. And then
I watched Home Alone two more recently with the family
like within and I was like, yeah, I was doing
(15:59):
the doing the fist place with Kevin is he like
mutilated those people Like.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'm Peter McAllister the fall them bro.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That shit's sick, right, I did drop the what's the
matter store wouldn't accept you a stolen credit card. That
was like that was a memorable line everyone knew, and
everyone just like kind of looked over, like what the
fuck is.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Holding a talk boy in your hand as you watch?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And then it does it's kind of like, I don't know,
it's like horniness a little bit, and then it like
gets more and more as you get closer to the day,
and then it's over and you're just look around and
you're just like, what the fuck was that? You know,
it just goes away like all of a sudden, you're
just like.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Closing that laptop real quick after cleaning up, cleaning up
a bunch of wrapping paper, and ship being like, man,
I think that really got away from it. It's the
regression of it that for me that's so alluring, is
that it truly it's like certain songs would be like, man,
I remember I was fourteen when this shit came out.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Oh, this is like such a good time.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
But Christmas is so nailed on and everyone's like, hey, y'all,
we're doing this together, right, we're all losing our minds
or just acting like we're kind of like kids or
some shit, because everything else is so fucking grim. That's
kind of how I think. That's one of the engines
that drives me. As I always tell it in my house,
(17:26):
as Her Majesty knows, in our house we do white
woman Christmas. Because I've said this many times, I'm so
into Christmas because I just didn't have Christmas really in
my house like I had. I would get like gifts
here and there or whatever, but it was never like,
let's put up a tree, let's do all this other stuff,
which was fine because I wasn't really I was there
(17:46):
for the gifts, like, but I remember going to like
my friend's houses, like white kids were like they're like
homemakers were fucking transforming those shit into some other like
a fairy tale. I slowly have. Like now I got
like a candle that I like to put out, Okay, yeah,
I got we have specific I'm real specific about these
(18:07):
lights that I put out on my garage or whatever
like that looked like the old C five bulb incandescent
bulbs and just insisting that like ambiently, it's like fucking
the Yankee candle store in here. Basically.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, man, yeah, I'm a complete asshole about like Christmas debt,
like my wife is very like I think it's one
of my most annoying traits to her. How like Judge,
I I'm like this wreath though, Yeah, could we.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
For someone for you who is famously not very picky
about certain things? No, yeah, like you're pretty easy going.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But they one thing, Yeah, I think like art directs
the Christmas presents on Christmas Morning, I'm like, no, no, no,
this is all wrong, just like a fuck out of here.
But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Brian gives a good
example of eggnog. Would we just I will say eggnog is?
I think eggnogs just could be an underrated on its own.
(19:05):
It's around holiday parties this weekend, no eggnog and on
at either of them. What I know you can't and
I had notes that I will deliver. Now it just
feels like eggnog is uh not. I think it might
also be the like it's the idea is like you
(19:25):
put it out in a bowl, but it's also like cream. Yeah,
it's like, it's not. It doesn't make a ton of
sense as a party drink.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Growing up in my house, my grandparents would do this
ship where they would have the eggnog but they would
also put a big fucking thing of ice cream in
there to keep it cold a to act as your
ice cube. But then also there's no dilution, and what
you're getting into it is just the same flavor back
into it. And that was that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That was our ice cream, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Or eggnog ice cream or my like my grandparents were
like really amazing books, uh. Or they would like flavor
the ice cream to have enough like nutmeg and other
shit into it so as it melted, it was still
contributing without giving people They're like, damn, you got the
heat on in here, and you got this eggnog bowl
right under the vent.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I was talking about my Christmas punch, which the three ingredients,
well that I this was like I thought, I was fucking,
you know, a real retributing to the Christmas parties when
I was a kid. It is a two gallon of sprite,
a gallon of orange juice, and a whole brick of
(20:34):
Briar's vanilla ice creamer. That's yeah, it's great because it
just yeah, like you said, it melts slowly and then
it just it has like.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Your parents let you make a thing that was basically
like three and a half gallons of liquid to put up.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah they did. Yeah, giant punch bowl. They trusted you.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
God damn.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I guess. So it's like the one thing that I
was like, I wonder somewhere, like I guess he can
handle these three, these three ingredients.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You're so much better adjusted than me my parents. The
I got this, I got it. And if I can
do this, what else can I do? Yep, Miles, what's
something you think is overrated? Just just the fucking amount
of jingle bells is overrated. The fucking song. This has
been every like we're always learning about new things, uh,
(21:23):
and this has been going around for a while. But
like I was just looking into the history of jingle
bells and I'm like, of course it's a fucking minstrel song.
What the fuck is this? I'm like a Confederate soldier
who was like, man, I need to get some money
out here doing minstrel shows. And the original song was
called one Horse, Open Sleigh. And then I was like, oh,
(21:47):
it's has okay, Okay, this makes sense, this makes sense.
This all has like everything, like so many things, like
just when we're for people here when we watch uh,
it's a wonderful life when we're like Buffalo gals, won't
you come out tonight, and like that's it's a fucking earworm.
Huh yeah, god damn, And then what are the origins
(22:09):
of that? And then you're like, oh, hold on, do
let me just look. Oh h okay, So I just
had to do that. And it's just funny now to
see like this comes out every year, because this is
some version of this has been happening for the last
like ten years or what I've seen on the internet,
like Khalil Green did a big story about it last year.
Joy read like like referenced it, and people are like,
(22:31):
why is this black woman saying it's right nest And
it's like so funny where people do this thing where
they're like, well, I like it, so it can't be
a racist song. Yeah, And some they were just merely
being like, look, this is historically where the song comes from.
Do with that what you will, like whatever, Like I'm
not saying we're not saying this is the new fucking
like Nazi anthem or whatever, but historically this is where
(22:53):
the song comes from. Just step why yeah, And I'm like, well, man,
this shit.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Hits is the Batman version taking it back from the
forces of capital.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean we are talking about millions, like shit, that's true.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The joker gets away like these guys suck shit.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, or took ballet, depending on where you grew up. Yeah,
j Robin Laden Egg, the batmobile lost a wheel.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Wait, just chaos, fucking chaos and that version.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Of what's going on in Gotham. Robin Laden Egg.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Fucking mess man, Robin's fucking girl Laden Egg, dude, girl
who got pregnant from another bird.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Overrated is if you do enough digging on any wonderful
American holiday anything, don't be surprised at what you find.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Hey, speaking of doing enough digging for my overrated, I
wanted to talk about the idea that our global systems,
our energy systems, are designed with any precision and forethought.
I was reading about geothermal energy over the weekend, which
is this like massive abundant source of heating just based
(24:07):
on the fact that shit's hot under the earth and
like it's.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Near the core. Huh, that's that core.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It turns out you go down a little bit, things
get hot, and like heating in its current incarnation, which
is like you know, using fossil fuels and stuff, shit
account thirty percent of cities carbon footprint on averages like
heating and geothermal energy is just like can be converted
directly into heating homes and electricity, and it's like it's
(24:37):
just kind of obvious and it's right there, and we
just weren't doing anything with it because it just wasn't
the first thing we thought of. I think it was
like we had gas and oil because we were stuck
on the idea of burning stuff from like the wood
and coal and like whaling days. So we're like, what,
(24:58):
we got to find something else to.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Burn, But I've rendered all inallo, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And then the first place to like really make the
leap was just Iceland out of sheer necessity when oil
prices went up in the seventies. They at that point
they relied on imported fossil fuels for like seventy seventy
five percent of all energy, and by the eighties, like
all their homes were heated geothermally and now like they
(25:27):
use it for electricity, like they're completely off fossil fuels.
They have twenty five percent of their electricity comes from
geothermal energy. The other seventy five percent comes from like hydroelectric.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, and it sounds like you hate America and should
maybe just move to Iceland.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I mean it it, but it's possible to do it.
It's it's possible to do it like they're doing, like
they're gonna they're trying to convert all of Cornell's campus
to geothermal and so the thing, and this goes to
what I was saying, just like the haphazard nature of
like the systems that we end up with. The reason
(26:05):
that it's going to take off and that it's like
starting to take off now is because all of the
people who spent their whole careers in Texas and like
in around North America figuring out how to drill for
oil are like, well, I guess we can use that
to drill for big, high, big gass holes for you. Yeah, exactly.
(26:28):
It's big asshole based electricity. Yeah, and it's like starting
to take off and there it's clean. Like there's this
quote from this guy who like when they first were
having trouble with energy prices in the fact that the
US was dependent on foreign importive fossil fuels, they were like, well,
(26:49):
we got to come up with something else, and they
created fracking, which is like really damaging and awful. So
this guy who like spent his whole career doing that
is now this huge proponent of geothermal and is like
we voice set around energy that you need three legs, reliable, clean,
and cheap, and everyone's always like, well, I can give
(27:10):
you two of those, but you can't get all three.
I'm like, this is the first one where it's like, no,
this is everything. It's down there no matter what. It's cheap,
and it's not going anywhere, like and it doesn't it
doesn't poison the globe.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, well, I'm sure like probably the biggest argument as
to why we can't even have it here is because
our grid can't even handle new shit like that because
it's very special. Like I get why Cornell can do
it because it's like a small you know, they don't
need to completely revolutionize the grid. And that's always like
the argument. It's like, well, we got to like invest
in this ship or something, so let's just burn dinosaur Google.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, it's in the they're in the process of like
trying to get people to invest in It's wild that
you can't even mention the fact that it's clean, because
that's like a bad word in modern America, Like they
that is a turnoff.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
This is it?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It like doesn't heat the globe. But the fact that
it's abundant and cheap and root, you know, those are
the things that are getting it off the ground.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Hey, people got to do the Mom Dannie money dance. Okay,
just be like it's cheap. Yeah, what about this, it's cheap.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Let me just put it this way.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
It's I heard it. I don't give a fuck if
it's clean. I don't give a shit if it's clean.
I'm here because it's cheap.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Y'all want cheap energy, then let's fucking go. Here's If
it's clean, that's just a bonus.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So early stages, But does seem promising, I don't know.
We'll see either way. We're gonna seem promising because I
got all these fucking drills that I don't know what
to do with, so dumb. All right, let's take a
quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk about some of
the news from the weekend. We'll be right back, and
(28:59):
we're bad are back. It was a fucking tragic weekend
in many respects for.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Two mass shootings. Yeah, I mean of that were like
got to the you know, mainstream news and a Rob
Reiner murder.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah it's horrible. Yeah that was fucking grim. Yeah, super grim.
We'll start out with the mass shooting in Australia at
Bondi Beach with two people who targeted a Jewish community
at a Hanuka event on Bondi Beach. Took the lives
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of fifteen people. Dozens more injured the country's deadliest incidents.
It's nineteen ninety six, which you may remember is when
they like put in a bunch of gun laws.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Arthur massacre was nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Oh yeah, and they were like, okay, well no more
of this shit, right, So Prime Minister Anthony Albanise responded
to the news with the usual thoughts and prayer. Oh
wait no, he immediately pledged to tighten the country's gun
control laws. Yeah you did.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Stop politicizing this. Wait, I didn't even realize. I'm like,
I thought they were I thought it was damn near
impossible to get a gun. But it's clearly he's like, well,
we can actually do a lot more, which.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yes, I mean, you can stop most mass shootings. But
the person who want one of the shooters had these
guns legally based on like Australian laws, and so they're like,
well that that wasn't working in that case, and so
we're gonna make gun control even stricter, Which is it's
(30:47):
horrible that responding to a thing by being like, well,
let's see where how we could stop this going forward
is like seems crazy, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
It's again because our the logic that we apply to
legislating in this country so poisoned by like lobbying and
outside groups that you'd be like, dang, these these knives
keep hurting all the we keep putting the babies in
the knife room. What should we do? It's like, maybe
take the knives out.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Nah, No, well that okay, the baby's skin.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
They need knife proof skin that we can develop. And
it's again, in this instance, we have a gun problem.
Let's solve it by eliminating the access the easy access
to weapons, or at least, in this case, make it
even harder to access weapons.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
The hero of the story is a bystanderd name acmeda Acamed,
forty three year old fruit shop owner who literally ran
at the shooter unarmed, tackled him, took his gun away
from him, and then didn't you know, just stop. Stop,
Like probably saved countless lives, but just did you do that?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Ship?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, it's amazing. This guy fucking just pull sneaks up.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
On him and just bear hugs him and then he
got shot twice.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, he got arm I think in the hospital recovering.
They think he's gonna recover, but he's Yeah, just ran
up on him and took it away from him, like
pretty pretty quickly. I was like, Okay, was this guy
part of Oh damn, the character that Chris Pratt played
(32:25):
in Deer Dark thirty was there? I was like, No,
he was just a fruit shop owner. It was like
really brave.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah. And then but he must have had a gun
on him for him to be that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Brave, right, Well, yeah, because the only way to stop
a bad guy with a gun is a brave fruit
shop owner with a gun. Except no, he just ran
up with nothing but his hands and took the gun
away and then got shot himself.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Wow, this is wild. And then yeah, and after this story,
what don't you know it Benjamin netten Ya who's out
here basically blaming the Prime Minister for supporting a Palestinian state, Yeah, like,
what the fuck is? How is is that's your first response.
And I think this has always been the huge glaring
issue with Prosionist propaganda is they want to make everyone
(33:08):
think that the state of Israel is representative of every
Jewish person in the world and the religion itself. And
so again the idea that connecting like the atrocities that
we see being committed by like Israel to the religion
of Judaism was always confuse, what anti semitism is?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
This is anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
This was exactly was always an obscene notion that may
help in the short term to silence people in a
rhetorical sense to be like, well, don't do that, it's
anti Semitism, and now be able to be like, wait
is it. I'm just talking about like what I saw
these soldiers do. There's nothing to do with the religion.
What was always going to lead to this kind of thing?
And just for him to I mean, this is I'm
(33:49):
not surprised, but Jesus Christ, like, maybe your hearts go
out to these people first before truly trying to like
turn this into And that's why you have to accept
everything that the IDF does, right.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Is pretty yeah, pretty horrifying. And then speaking of a
shocking yet not shocking response to a senseless, horrifying act
of violence. As as mentioned, Rob Reiner and his wife
were found murdered in their home. Uh you know, director
of some great eighties movies and you know there's a
(34:26):
spinal tap and Princess Bride and just a well, he's
like one of those filmmakers where you're like, oh, wait,
he made that too.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, when Harry met Sally, did he.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Just stand by me? I think? Or did he write that?
I think he did do stand by me yet. But yeah,
that's another Like it's just like all these classics that
don't like, you wouldn't necessarily assume they were made by
the same person. So horrifying people Sunday night, People magazine
alleged that the killer was their son, Nick, who had
struggled with substance abuse in the past and and had
(35:01):
been like estranged and then come back with the family,
and then TMZ reported on Monday morning that he was
in police custody. I mean, it's still very early, and
it does seem like everyone was like Sun did it
right away, but so I mean, but we don't know
all the details. Still very early here as we're recording this,
(35:24):
but in terms of like the response, so a bunch
of somebody was like, Reiner hated Trump, so eBrace yourself
for some nasty comments coming from the megaverse. Jeremy London,
Sir Jeremy Lindon wrote that on social media and a
lot of right wing people were like, actually, we're better
(35:48):
than that. Jack Pasobiac said, you won't see people on
the right celebrating the horrific murder of Rob Reiner and
his wife compared to the left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder.
We do not operate that way. That's the difference. Nothing
but thoughts and prayers from our side. Uh, Chris Plan
t show, Chris Plant, whoever the fuck that is? Yes,
(36:09):
unlike Democrats when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you won't find
a single prominent conservative who will celebrate this rip. Robin,
Michelle Ryan are very sad. Just the interesting specifically said
prominent conservative because were there prominent voices. I feel like
there were ship posters all over the Internet saying horrible
(36:31):
shit after Charlie Kirk died, But like was it. It
wasn't like a prominent like Biden, wasn't out here like
saying wild ship. It wasn't uh Zorn didn't come out
and say say some shit.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And most of the time people weren't saying wild shit
about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yea honest, it was just you. You found it and
used it as fodder for your persecution complex. But uh
q Donald Trump, who dropped this one on our A
very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner,
a tortured and struggling but once very talented movie director
and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife Michelle. Reportedly.
(37:12):
This is reportedly due to the anger he caused others
through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind
crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to
as TDS.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Oh TDS.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yes, he was known to have driven people crazy by
his raging obsession of Donald J. Trump and his obvious
paranoi reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all
goals and expectations of greatness and with the Golden Age
of America upon us, perhaps like never before. May Robin
Michelle rest in peace. Oh he ended it on a
good note. I guess we can sorry, fam, you.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Did this to yourself with your Trump derangement syndrome. Got
your ass.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
What the prime editors landed the plane, he did say hey,
Rob and Michelle rested. I wonder if that's like how
they're going to defend this. He said, rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
At the end, the first and last sentences sounded normal.
He said, a very sad thing happened. May he rest
in peace? And then the middle was like, you did
this to yourself yourself by opposing me, And actually this
was like he's almost like he's like a terrorist organization
taking credit for an attack.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
For a murder like this is this is part of
the holy war of people defending my good name? What
fucking like truly hard for him to uh surprise anymore? Yeah,
but really an unbelievable just what the fuck? Yeah, like
(38:56):
how people are like Trump is trolling, like the what what?
That's not the thing that you do?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Well, they look they have have to do. I have
to use every weird excuse to explain why grandfather's dementia's
getting out of control and say everything except that it's
cognitive decline and also that he's just a straight up
evil asshole. So if you can't say, look, he's an
evil asshole, which he's gonna say this, or look, dude,
the guy's losing his fucking brain. Uh, you gotta be
(39:24):
like he's trolling. He likes to do that. He's just
in touch with the ship posters of the world.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's fine, being provocative.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I mean, then you can say, then on top of it, right,
there was a shooting at Brown University where at least
I think two at the time of this recording, I
think two people were dead and like like nine injured.
And then Trump at a at a like a Christmas
gathering said quote Brown University, great school, really one of
the greatest schools anywhere in the world. Things can happen.
(39:55):
So to the nine injured, get well fast, and to
the family of those two that are no longer with this,
I pay my deepest regards in respect. Really well put
you know, things get to like speak fucking saying things
can happen. Holy shit. But again, you we should not
expect more from a person like a narcissist who's just
circling the drain.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Cognitive Yeah, that's I guess that's where we're at. But Jesus, yeah,
that's fucking dark. All right, let's take a quick break.
We'll come back and talk about other news. We'll be
right back, and we're back back.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
All right.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
We got Merriam Webster's word of the Year. Thank god,
we had a different Oxford. Maybe with dictionary dot Com.
Were they six seven?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I don't know, Yeah, that's Dictionary dot Com was six seven,
because they're like, yeah, my friends can teach her and
he hates it. So I'm gonna remember, like we were
reading about like one of the editors of it was
purely because a friend of theirs was a teacher AND's
driving them mad. They're like, in your face, Craig Starward
of the Year Oxford was rage bait.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Oxford's rage bait. And now we got Merriam Webster's, which
is slop.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yep, good. I think that's that feels right. Of all
of them, that felt the most accurate, like six seven
you did that to spite your friend, not I mean,
I get it. It's everyone's saying and it has taken over,
but it's in a way that really only resonates with
people who are in or are like who are in
classrooms around children whatever. After that point, most were like,
(41:41):
what the fuck you're talking about but slop. I think
in the context of how they're talking about it this year,
because this was truly the year of basically what they're
talking was like AI slop nonsense.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I mean, it was already a word, yeah, I feed
my kids when they're bad.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Exactly know, from the seventeen hundreds actually to mean soft mud,
but it quote evolved more generally to mean something of
little value. The definition has since expanded to me quote
digital content of low quality that has produced usually in
quantity by means of artificial intelligence and between apps like
Sora and you know, the President just loving it. It's
(42:18):
really just become part of like the the mainstream, to
the point where I even have to like tell my mom,
I'm like, this is slop nonop. I'm sorry, because it's
like it's one thing, if you know, and you're like
ha ha ha whatever. I'm moving on in my day.
But to get like hung up on it where my
mom like this, can you believe what this bear is doing?
I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Why would I In the accordion, it was like it
was like at a it was like tending a campfire.
That's like pok in the air.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
It was like some shit, and I was like, I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (42:53):
It has no concept of fire out of maintain a fire.
And she's like I just thought it was smart, and
I'm like, yeah, all yell boomers really just I think
because they their media literacy ends at if it's on TV,
it's true, right, and if someone recorded it, it's true.
That's kind of where it ends.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
It's it's confusing times. They got me with the uh
with the deer and the bunny on the love that one,
but I love that one.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
I mean, look, without Sora, we wouldn't have been able
to see what the price is right, would have looked
like if Bob Barker was a London roadman speaking patois
to the audience, because that's that one. Oh, there's so
many Bob like pat Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
It's so I mean, that's good work. Let's distinguish here
between bad slap and good slap.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
It's like just one of those things where you're just like, ah,
it's because again it's basically lets people rank out a
dumb idea, but the amount, but also this content has
taken over everything, Like interest is all nonsense. Images, YouTube
reels is so much fucking wacky ass AI slop meant
(44:09):
to look just just close enough to reality where you
go like, damn, how'd that guy do that in his
car with his dog driving?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Did you see the one of the guy from h
who the tweaking AI executive And like they just had
him doing like an incredible like pummel horse routine on
his seat, like his his like moved. Yeah, the squirminess
like turned into him being like doing this is.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Where I do feel bad because this does take the
work from political satirists who write cartoons, because that would
have been a cartoon. Yeah, yeah, and now but I
think that's like the difference too, is like sometimes when
you see the real video versions, like okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
The slop is you know it has taken you know,
it's taken over ads, It's taken over like you know,
all over the place, like Donald Trump is posting himself
shitting on people. So like it's it is bad. It's
also interesting, like there there was this moment where they're
like we're really like seeing increased results with these like
(45:17):
machine learning algorithms, and like we we used it to
decode like protein structures like faster than we could have
Like what what do we use this for? And like
we think of AI as a brand, like this is
what they've gone with is something that's.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Called scale because they have to scale it. That's the
problem is like it wasn't good enough to be like, well,
we can incrementally work on this thing that clearly has
a use case in these specific instances.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
But then because so many of these people who had
these companies also like lack any real world connection, they're like,
oh my god, dude, Will Smith eating spaghetti? Was he
actually eating that?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Oh my god, yes, dude. When people see this, they're
gonna fucking flip out.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
How's he eating so much spaghetti? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:05):
And you cut to like everything we've seen too, even
with like the other programs, there's company after company that
signs these like enterprise deals for like large scale use
of like an AI product. They kick it down to
their workers, they don't use it anymore. And then you
see all these companies who are basically like after the fact,
like yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Tried, it's just like not really working.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Productivity was down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, there was a lot of that going around this weekend,
all right. Uh. And finally, in a related story, Christmas
Tree farms like fucking get out of the way. Move bitch,
get out of the way. So Fox News had a
story about how there's a Christmas tree farm in Maryland
(46:48):
that is getting in the way. That's like, I don't
want your high voltage power line to cut through my
Christmas tree farm because it's like bad for the fucking environment,
yeah or whatever, but they need, like it's gonna be
very inconvenient for these businesses. They're gonna have to spend
money to AI is already not profitable and never will be.
(47:12):
So this is annoying, Like but like this is an inevitability.
People need their slop.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Wait, so they are Oh, the Maryland Christmas tree farm
is saying, don't bring your high voltage power lines to
power a fucking data center.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yes, out of Northern Virginia. Which Northern Virginia. You know,
only good stuff is happening with their applications of AI.
You know, you get the CIA there, so the Pentagon,
so it's gonna be good stuff happening. And so Fox
Business Networks Dagan mcdale said that everyone should just suck
it up and quote buy a fake tree instead of
(47:49):
holding up quote growth and development of business. Shut the
fuck up, dude.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I wonder like, what do Fox Business viewers think when
they hear someone be like, man, fuck you're getting in
the way of growth and development.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
That I state up the bad guy from a Christmas movie. Yeah,
you're just like, burn this fucking Christmas tree farm down.
You can have a fake plastic tree and it's gonna
be fine, doesn't need to even be realistic. Just shut
the fuck up.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Okay, let's hear from Dagandal.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
So this farm is one hundred and fifty acres. Yeah,
they're going to be farms, and there will be transmission
lines that have to go through developments and farms. That's
the very nature of a growing economy.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Like, that's everybody, because you'res bullshit cat, got your tongue
out of the way.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
You gotta make the power the fucking line. Okay, go on,
maybe there's.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
To get on board. I just don't.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
It's a you know what, you know what, buy a
fake tree?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Oh oh oh, digger right in my heart.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
What I have a tree?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I know I can't afford the tree.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Shut up, Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you're doing capitalist
fucking propagand you can't afford a tree.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Capitalist propaganda under a header. There's a big header over
the thing that says rise of AI and they're telling
Christmas tree farms to get the fuck out the way
this is. Fox was freaking out about Portland's disrespecting a
Christmas tree by calling it a holiday tree like two
weeks ago, right right, like the War on Christmas is back.
(49:36):
And then they're people.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Because you know, the Fox News version of a fake
tree would be like, well, you know, all the fake
trees are made in China, and we need to go
It's America first, baby, why are we we got all
these trees we can fucking chop down that you can
have and then throw in the street in January? Uh well,
at least a panelists were like oh dagon no, like Dan,
(49:58):
what the fuck she was doing? Like a racist take?
Like like a normal network, They're like, oh no, let's
not do that. Come on now, Oh god, oh you're
going there, you're going there.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I know I can't afford the tree.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Really a tree that's bleeding me dry? Do you I
think you're using it wrong? What do you mean you
can't afford you?
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Because I'm seeing the inverted trees, like inverted fake trees.
There's a whole thing I was I was looking at,
uh where there's these trees that are just oriented with
the tip end down at the base and then it
flares up like a fucking like a trump like a
bell of a trumpet.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
And this is like something that you can buy for
your home.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yes, this is like the the I guess it's like
a new wave like of fake trees.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I mean that that's fun. I would feel like I
was like at a fun like museum exhibit or something.
It's different than the presence underneath.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
It's different yet familiar enough where you're like, huh.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
If there's something obsceneing you're showing me a picture of
it and it looks drunk, it looks like I'm about
to like look up its skirt or something, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Or it looks like or it's so big it looks
like it's like a V shaped torso it looks like
debo and it's like it's about to slide on you,
Like what the fuck this big gas street? But anyway,
there's all kinds of week.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Is this for satanist smiles exactly?
Speaker 3 (51:19):
It's for stranger things fans because you're celebrating the upside down.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
We're all on the upside down. But you can fit
more presents under the tree, which again that is woke.
To get your children a bunch of Christmas presents is woke.
Jocald Trump has said buy less Christmas presents for children.
The economy is struggling. And if you're complaining about that,
fuck you yip fuck.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, sorry, what do you want me to fucking do
about it? Just because I said I would lower prices?
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Day one, good old fashioned conservative values. Uh, embracing the
rise of AI to tear down Christmas breeze because Christmas
doesn't matter anyways, and you don't have to buy that
many presents for your kids.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
You've summed it up swish box nail for the last
fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
All right. Those are some of the things that are
trending on this Monday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with
a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be
kind to each other and be kind to yourselves. Get
your vaccines where you still can get your flu shots.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to you all tomorrow. Bye.
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co produced by Bae Wayne.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Co produced by Victor Wright
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Co written by j m McNab and edited and engineered
by Brian Jeffries.
Remind me.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I looked up. I looked up gung ho. Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
They had a movie with Michael Keaton's Gotta Be Racist,
the movie with Michael Keaton.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The phrase.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I was like, oh, because I was every time I
come across like something that's just in our vernacular.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
That's now.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I just look it up because it's like, I remember,
last last time I did this, I looked up Cakewalk.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Which is race.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
But gung ho is it's not necessarily racist, but it's
definitely comes from imperialism.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, it's a misinterpretation of a Chinese phrase.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
But thank god, it's not like the most racist interpretation
you can think of. So I still still feel like
you can use gung Ho.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Feels a good phrase. Gung Ho comes from the Chinese
phrase gung hey, meaning work together, a slogan for Chinese
industrial operatives in the nineteen thirties. Gung Ho, I feel
like in when I hear it, is like, man, that
guy's really gung ho.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, it's like yeah, like he like P Diddy, that
guy's gung ho.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Guy's gung ho for his grind set.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
This is I mean wild though too, because when you
said that, I was like the Michael Keaton movie about
the Japanese carmaker and the Pennsylvania factory, and then I'm like, wait,
they talk about a Chinese phrase to do some like
eighties Japanese shit. Very did you do you ever see them?
Like Keaton movie nineteen eighty six movie where Michael Keaton
is he has to like get his auto plant going,
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but these Japanese people come through to like show him
how shit's done. It's very like, you guys do shit
like this and we do it like this. And then
they find a harmonious middle, meaning they listen to Getty
wada Abe.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
They all like get together and have like drunk farmers. Yeah,
are the American version, dude? Is it like, oh you
got underdog tail of Americans being fucking idiots?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Just two clashing cultures, man. I think they learned from
each other. Man, they learn from each other.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's actually good when you forget to screw on some
of the parts. That's something to those people don't care.
We like like tapering.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Damn gung hose got a thirty nine percent?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How probably a bunch of freaking Japanese film critics.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah right, you know my mom, Yeah, Miles is mom.
I freget that. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I don't want to I don't want to say anything.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well you you kept going.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It was pretty specific.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Malady your mom.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Mom.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
But it was so funny though too. I remember back
in the day, though, we would be so excited to
just see Asian people and it didn't even matter the
racism because you're like, oh my god, dude, they're talking
about Asians. Oh it's bad. Whatever, he We'll take what
we can get.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We saw the new Red Dawn remake.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Like my mom's a even has she still will watch
tea House of August Moon, which is Marlon Brando doing yellow.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Face like it's.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I don't even know if they make this shit anymore,
like like to buy, but my mom she has that
shit on DVD. She was like, bro, I love Marlon Brando.
I'm like, mom, this is fucked up.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Marlon Brando is definitely one of those people like I
talk about John Belushi, the people who are like past
generations get away with it. Damn man, they're fucking this
guy's a genius and I just like don't see it
at all, and it's just like they must have It's
like someone who's like inventing a light bulbinger, just like, yeah,
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impressive to me?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is it? Like what do the ones get him? The
real his big credits is like what Stanley Kowowski and
Street Card name desire or like on the water Front.
I feel like when I think of Marlon Brando's like
quote unquote like actings are like.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
A right.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
And I'm like all right or yeah, and I'm like, bro,
you could have hit.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He's always yelling some ship. That's what I think of
for me is Brandon.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The reason my mom looks passive because she.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Just or his late era where he's fat and sweaty
all the time.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
And yeah, he looks like one of his own creations
from the Island of Doctor Moreau.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
The But like for my mom, it's just because she
was so enamored with.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
HER's like he's so handsome.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
She's so handsome that I like when he plays the
Japanese character Sakini.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I don't see that either, Like he doesn't look
particularly handsome to me. Does he see him that handsome?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
That's I think that's like the Asian game.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, did what's his name?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Did Homeboy from Kung Fu look particularly like anything.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
David Carrody the hottest man. But I mean, that's that's
impossible to look back and I never.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Watched that show.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Was he supposed to be Asian in that? Or was
he supposed to be No?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
What?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah? Was he? Because I was like, who the fuck
is you? The legend continued because I think when we
were young, the legend continues was out because kunk there
was the original kung fu show, right, and then the
legend continues was the one that was on the nineties.
When I was like, who the fuck are these people?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
All I remember is that the show is incredibly boring
for something called kung fu, and there wasn't a lot
of fighting.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It wasn't like a Western where he just goes from
town to town and there's something particularly interesting. I love
how weird about catch these Hands?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
We're not even looking to see? Okay, fine kung Fu?
Oh my god, in which Qui chang Kin returns. Who's
Qui chang Kin?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Please tell me it's not David?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You know, you know it is.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's my boys throw hey, but you throw Caine on
there because you know he's half Oh yeah, look he
they like made him.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I mean they shaved his head and then like, I
don't know. I think they were like, he's his eyes
when he kind of squints them, could could do it?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, he's like they just told the director told them
to do fucking safety squint. Yeah, and they yellowed him
up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
God damn.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh, so he is so Qui Chang Kine orphan son
of the of an American Thomas Henry Kane and a
Chinese woman Qui Lynn.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Okay, And I wonder how that happened.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Hey, don't worry, don't don't ask how we got white
in our families either, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
But Bruce, Bruce Lee, your family was supposed to be
Bruce Lee was supposed to star in that. That was
his project. And then they were like.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Wow, and Carrodene is second on the fucking cause she
what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Why what was he? Please tell me he's Asian or
some ship bro.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
All right, if he grew up in Oakland, maybe I'll give.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Him Hello the Internet And welcome to this trend edition
of Daily That Guy. My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm
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thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
mister Miles ground Man.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah. Okay, I'm just getting over the line. I'm just
getting over the line here as we get to Friday.
Thank you for everybody who subbed in my stead as
I was dealing with wasn't quite the flu. I don't know.
This is one of these things like we couldn't put
the finger on it. But I was Look.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You were also still submitting stories to the dock while
you were sick.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Because I'm a millennial who doesn't know how to rest,
and therefore I was just reading about all that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I appreciate terrible treats we have.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
No, No, it's it's my fault, Jack, It's society's fault.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Society's fault, society's fault. All right, Well, this is the
episode where we tell you what was happening over the weekend. Uh,
and also let you get to know us a little
bit better by telling you some things that we think
are overrated, underrated. Miles, you want to kick us off
with something you think is under rated.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Under rated? Uh? That we are not talking about Erica
Kirk in the context of Sean Puffy Combs. She is
puff Daddy. She is doing what puff Daddy did with
the notorious b I g to whatever he's.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Going to do a remix b every step you take.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yes, she's about to be dancing in the rain, climbing
up mountains with kids and ship all of that, all
of all of the it's it's like it's like, so
you know, like, uh, I think we all saw this,
you know, in real time, right right after Biggie died,
Like that suddenly made puff Daddy even bigger, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
There's a lot of question that ship, like it was
everywhere was like Popscott like it was a double dutch
game that he had been timing out and here I go,
miss you big. Oh how did you have that song
written already?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh? Sorry that song? Okay? So I was with Sting.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Actually this is a really I was telling me. Recently
they watched the Puff Daddy documentary and they were like,
and you know, he killed Biggie too.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I so I started watching that. That was Blair who
was saying that.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Blair, that's right, like matter of fact, that's just like
what happened. I was I don't think that's the official
well story.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I always every thing like when white people say very
matter of factly things about hip hop, even if they
just watched the document and I go hmm, and then
I started watching it and I'm at the point where
they were talking about how basically, uh that Puff Daddy
was really getting like the South Side crypts in LA
to like putting pressure on them to kill Tupac, and
like they sort of paint this whole picture about how
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Pock and Big like we're really good friends, but Puffy
like just didn't have the same poll with Biggie and
he's like, I need to fucking figure this shit out.
All that to say, with Erica Kirk, it's a similar
thing where like a lot of I mean even to
a more extreme extent, because at least bad Boy was
a label and there are other artists, but let's be real, Uh,
Biggie was the one bringing in all the money and
(09:55):
all the the new bad Boy, and she the way,
like there's all this getting out in public to the
point where even like the people who support Turning Point
are like, it's kind of like not doesn't seem like
she's grieving, kind of seems like she's just kind of
like taking this thing by the reins. And I just
feel like we we should use the the example of
puff Daddy to realize that this is a thing that
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happens when the popin member of a crew you know,
is lost. You got to figure out how to keep
the money machine on, because especially with like Charlie Kirk,
they still post from his Twitter account, they still post
from like the YouTube channel. There's no sense of like
sanctity around that. They're like, no, this feed, this RSS
(10:38):
feed is so fucking valuable. We cannot have that turnoff
for a moment. And I just see those.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Are like the posthumous Tupac tracks where like he had
these all stored up. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well, because it's also like if you see the other
people in the Turning Point Crew, they also do other
versions a crew, the Turning Point.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Crew pop member of the Points.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Other people like we miss you, Charlie, I remember you
this you used to love Sweet Potato Pie, and like
to the point where it just feels like they're evoking
the name to get engagement. And because I think it's
really clear in this era of social media and like
digital consumption, you can kind of see you can kind
of draw a line to why certain things are posted
in the way that they are. So again, like I
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don't know if erg Kirk had anything to do with
Tupac's murder. But again, I just see similarities and I'm
just saying, like, I think this is a good example
of looking at somebody who I'm not. You have trouble
wondering like did they mean a lot to you? Or
do you know that the brand means a lot to you?
And I'm just having trouble figuring that out.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And a lot of people will say it's sexist to
say that she's like being opportunist. It's sexist not to
compare her to puff Daddy. Okay, if it was if
it was a man who was stepping in and being like,
I'm doing five Charlie interviews a day about like you
(12:03):
know how much I miss him, But then like being
on there, uh, not not really seeming to it's I
feel like we'd we'd have we'd be having that conversation.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But it is a very big eie thing where everyone's
grifting on the moment in ways, like in every way
they can, Like even Candice Owens has like this whole
conspiracy theory beef going with them because it's getting her
the most engagement fucking ever to be stuff like what
are these Egyptian planes that were following Charlie around like
just deird shit all the time. What is that? What
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is it?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Seems weird to me.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm just asking a question.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I'm just following. I'm following the questions, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I'm just I'm just getting some engagement.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Baby, That's right, all right? My underrated is just like
the temporary insanity of like being Christmas brains, being like
drunk on the holiday season, Like not drunk on Christmas Day,
but drunk on like Christmas.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
You know what I mean? Do you like like I
don't like, I don't guess this brain. I get the
Christmas brain part, like you've completely lost yourself to the idea.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I just like notice more and more like each year
that the world all collectively loses its fucking mind gets
like holiday season induced shit facedness that lasts for a
couple of weeks. We're all just sort of like doing
things we normally wouldn't like what I think you see
the candy cane. I'd say the candy cane is a
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great example. I've talked before, like it tastes like toothpaste,
but because it's got these memories and iconography tied to it,
we accept it as like a classic candy for exactly
three weeks a year. Oh yeah, yeah, we're just like,
are you adults day after?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Do you see adults eating them?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean they're putting them out, I know, but I have.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Not seen I've only seen children eating candy canes.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But why are they doing that? Nerds rope exists? What
is happening?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah? Call that like, yeah you should call it like
Rudolph's rain. Rudolph rains are ropes.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, there you go, perfect Rudolph Dix. Nah, Rudolf Rains
is better. Yeah yeah, but yeah it just maybe make
a make a Nerds rope that is striped red and white.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
What else do you see? Okay, so the candy like.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Music, I'm just finding myself going back to the same
forty song playlist, and it hits harder than like any
music I listened to all year. Like normally, I'm like,
I want to listen to new music, I want to hear,
you know, new stuff that's interesting, and then for two
weeks I'm just like this one, the same one every year.
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I had holiday parties this weekend and just did my
standard thing. I've talked about this before, wearing I have
like a Christmas light necklace from like a drive in
movie during the pandemic when we were all going to
like outdoor drive in theaters during the pandemic. Yeah, and
and it's still it's still going. It's true miracle, but
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it was such a hit. Everyone's just here like that
shit is essentially the equivalent of like bringing one of
those light up swords that you get it, like did
they sell out outside of the circuits, Like it's essentially
like just the cheapest light up bullshit and you wear
it to a Christmas party and everyone's like.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yo, exactly, you look great, Like Jack, get in here?
Can I see? Can you turn it on?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I feel like we watched we watched some holiday movies,
uh for for our holiday episodes. That was like right
outside of my normal Christmas window and so I could
like see them with clear eyes, you know, Like I
was like, damn, this movie is fucked up. And then
I watched Home Alone two more recently with the family
like within and I was like, yeah, I was doing
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the doing the fist place with Kevin is he like
mutilated those people Like.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I'm Peter McAllister the fall them bro.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That shit's sick, right, I did drop the what's the
matter store wouldn't accept you a stolen credit card. That
was like that was a memorable line everyone knew, and
everyone just like kind of looked over, like what the
fuck is.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Holding a talk boy in your hand as you watch?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
And then it does it's kind of like, I don't know,
it's like horniness a little bit, and then it like
gets more and more as you get closer to the day,
and then it's over and you're just look around and
you're just like, what the fuck was that? You know,
it just goes away like all of a sudden, you're
just like.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Closing that laptop real quick after cleaning up, cleaning up
a bunch of wrapping paper, and ship being like, man,
I think that really got away from it. It's the
regression of it that for me that's so alluring, is
that it truly it's like certain songs would be like, man,
I remember I was fourteen when this shit came out.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Oh, this is like such a good time.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
But Christmas is so nailed on and everyone's like, hey, y'all,
we're doing this together, right, we're all losing our minds
or just acting like we're kind of like kids or
some shit, because everything else is so fucking grim. That's
kind of how I think. That's one of the engines
that drives me. As I always tell it in my house,
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as Her Majesty knows, in our house we do white
woman Christmas. Because I've said this many times, I'm so
into Christmas because I just didn't have Christmas really in
my house like I had. I would get like gifts
here and there or whatever, but it was never like,
let's put up a tree, let's do all this other stuff,
which was fine because I wasn't really I was there
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for the gifts, like, but I remember going to like
my friend's houses, like white kids were like they're like
homemakers were fucking transforming those shit into some other like
a fairy tale. I slowly have. Like now I got
like a candle that I like to put out, Okay, yeah,
I got we have specific I'm real specific about these
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lights that I put out on my garage or whatever
like that looked like the old C five bulb incandescent
bulbs and just insisting that like ambiently, it's like fucking
the Yankee candle store in here. Basically.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, man, yeah, I'm a complete asshole about like Christmas debt,
like my wife is very like I think it's one
of my most annoying traits to her. How like Judge,
I I'm like this wreath though, Yeah, could we.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
For someone for you who is famously not very picky
about certain things? No, yeah, like you're pretty easy going.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But they one thing, Yeah, I think like art directs
the Christmas presents on Christmas Morning, I'm like, no, no, no,
this is all wrong, just like a fuck out of here.
But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Brian gives a good
example of eggnog. Would we just I will say eggnog is?
I think eggnogs just could be an underrated on its own.
(19:05):
It's around holiday parties this weekend, no eggnog and on
at either of them. What I know you can't and
I had notes that I will deliver. Now it just
feels like eggnog is uh not. I think it might
also be the like it's the idea is like you
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put it out in a bowl, but it's also like cream. Yeah,
it's like, it's not. It doesn't make a ton of
sense as a party drink.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Growing up in my house, my grandparents would do this
ship where they would have the eggnog but they would
also put a big fucking thing of ice cream in
there to keep it cold a to act as your
ice cube. But then also there's no dilution, and what
you're getting into it is just the same flavor back
into it. And that was that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That was our ice cream, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Or eggnog ice cream or my like my grandparents were
like really amazing books, uh. Or they would like flavor
the ice cream to have enough like nutmeg and other
shit into it so as it melted, it was still
contributing without giving people They're like, damn, you got the
heat on in here, and you got this eggnog bowl
right under the vent.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I was talking about my Christmas punch, which the three ingredients,
well that I this was like I thought, I was fucking,
you know, a real retributing to the Christmas parties when
I was a kid. It is a two gallon of sprite,
a gallon of orange juice, and a whole brick of
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Briar's vanilla ice creamer. That's yeah, it's great because it
just yeah, like you said, it melts slowly and then
it just it has like.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Your parents let you make a thing that was basically
like three and a half gallons of liquid to put up.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah they did. Yeah, giant punch bowl. They trusted you.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
God damn.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I guess. So it's like the one thing that I
was like, I wonder somewhere, like I guess he can
handle these three, these three ingredients.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You're so much better adjusted than me my parents. The
I got this, I got it. And if I can
do this, what else can I do? Yep, Miles, what's
something you think is overrated? Just just the fucking amount
of jingle bells is overrated. The fucking song. This has
been every like we're always learning about new things, uh,
(21:23):
and this has been going around for a while. But
like I was just looking into the history of jingle
bells and I'm like, of course it's a fucking minstrel song.
What the fuck is this? I'm like a Confederate soldier
who was like, man, I need to get some money
out here doing minstrel shows. And the original song was
called one Horse, Open Sleigh. And then I was like, oh,
(21:47):
it's has okay, Okay, this makes sense, this makes sense.
This all has like everything, like so many things, like
just when we're for people here when we watch uh,
it's a wonderful life when we're like Buffalo gals, won't
you come out tonight, and like that's it's a fucking earworm.
Huh yeah, god damn, And then what are the origins
(22:09):
of that? And then you're like, oh, hold on, do
let me just look. Oh h okay, So I just
had to do that. And it's just funny now to
see like this comes out every year, because this is
some version of this has been happening for the last
like ten years or what I've seen on the internet,
like Khalil Green did a big story about it last year.
Joy read like like referenced it, and people are like,
(22:31):
why is this black woman saying it's right nest And
it's like so funny where people do this thing where
they're like, well, I like it, so it can't be
a racist song. Yeah, And some they were just merely
being like, look, this is historically where the song comes from.
Do with that what you will, like whatever, Like I'm
not saying we're not saying this is the new fucking
like Nazi anthem or whatever, but historically this is where
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the song comes from. Just step why yeah, And I'm like, well, man,
this shit.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Hits is the Batman version taking it back from the
forces of capital.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean we are talking about millions, like shit, that's true.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
The joker gets away like these guys suck shit.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yeah, or took ballet, depending on where you grew up. Yeah,
j Robin Laden Egg, the batmobile lost a wheel.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Wait, just chaos, fucking chaos and that version.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Of what's going on in Gotham. Robin Laden Egg.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Fucking mess man, Robin's fucking girl Laden Egg, dude, girl
who got pregnant from another bird.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Overrated is if you do enough digging on any wonderful
American holiday anything, don't be surprised at what you find.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Hey, speaking of doing enough digging for my overrated, I
wanted to talk about the idea that our global systems,
our energy systems, are designed with any precision and forethought.
I was reading about geothermal energy over the weekend, which
is this like massive abundant source of heating just based
(24:07):
on the fact that shit's hot under the earth and
like it's.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Near the core. Huh, that's that core.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It turns out you go down a little bit, things
get hot, and like heating in its current incarnation, which
is like you know, using fossil fuels and stuff, shit
account thirty percent of cities carbon footprint on averages like
heating and geothermal energy is just like can be converted
directly into heating homes and electricity, and it's like it's
(24:37):
just kind of obvious and it's right there, and we
just weren't doing anything with it because it just wasn't
the first thing we thought of. I think it was
like we had gas and oil because we were stuck
on the idea of burning stuff from like the wood
and coal and like whaling days. So we're like, what,
(24:58):
we got to find something else to.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Burn, But I've rendered all inallo, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
And then the first place to like really make the
leap was just Iceland out of sheer necessity when oil
prices went up in the seventies. They at that point
they relied on imported fossil fuels for like seventy seventy
five percent of all energy, and by the eighties, like
all their homes were heated geothermally and now like they
(25:27):
use it for electricity, like they're completely off fossil fuels.
They have twenty five percent of their electricity comes from
geothermal energy. The other seventy five percent comes from like hydroelectric.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, and it sounds like you hate America and should
maybe just move to Iceland.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I mean it it, but it's possible to do it.
It's it's possible to do it like they're doing, like
they're gonna they're trying to convert all of Cornell's campus
to geothermal and so the thing, and this goes to
what I was saying, just like the haphazard nature of
like the systems that we end up with. The reason
(26:05):
that it's going to take off and that it's like
starting to take off now is because all of the
people who spent their whole careers in Texas and like
in around North America figuring out how to drill for
oil are like, well, I guess we can use that
to drill for big, high, big gass holes for you. Yeah, exactly.
(26:28):
It's big asshole based electricity. Yeah, and it's like starting
to take off and there it's clean. Like there's this
quote from this guy who like when they first were
having trouble with energy prices in the fact that the
US was dependent on foreign importive fossil fuels, they were like, well,
(26:49):
we got to come up with something else, and they
created fracking, which is like really damaging and awful. So
this guy who like spent his whole career doing that
is now this huge proponent of geothermal and is like
we voice set around energy that you need three legs, reliable, clean,
and cheap, and everyone's always like, well, I can give
(27:10):
you two of those, but you can't get all three.
I'm like, this is the first one where it's like, no,
this is everything. It's down there no matter what. It's cheap,
and it's not going anywhere, like and it doesn't it
doesn't poison the globe.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, well, I'm sure like probably the biggest argument as
to why we can't even have it here is because
our grid can't even handle new shit like that because
it's very special. Like I get why Cornell can do
it because it's like a small you know, they don't
need to completely revolutionize the grid. And that's always like
the argument. It's like, well, we got to like invest
in this ship or something, so let's just burn dinosaur Google.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, it's in the they're in the process of like
trying to get people to invest in It's wild that
you can't even mention the fact that it's clean, because
that's like a bad word in modern America, Like they
that is a turnoff.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
This is it?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
It like doesn't heat the globe. But the fact that
it's abundant and cheap and root, you know, those are
the things that are getting it off the ground.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Hey, people got to do the Mom Dannie money dance. Okay,
just be like it's cheap. Yeah, what about this, it's cheap.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Let me just put it this way.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
It's I heard it. I don't give a fuck if
it's clean. I don't give a shit if it's clean.
I'm here because it's cheap.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Y'all want cheap energy, then let's fucking go. Here's If
it's clean, that's just a bonus.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
So early stages, But does seem promising, I don't know.
We'll see either way. We're gonna seem promising because I
got all these fucking drills that I don't know what
to do with, so dumb. All right, let's take a
quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk about some of
the news from the weekend. We'll be right back, and
(28:59):
we're bad are back. It was a fucking tragic weekend
in many respects for.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Two mass shootings. Yeah, I mean of that were like
got to the you know, mainstream news and a Rob
Reiner murder.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah it's horrible. Yeah that was fucking grim. Yeah, super grim.
We'll start out with the mass shooting in Australia at
Bondi Beach with two people who targeted a Jewish community
at a Hanuka event on Bondi Beach. Took the lives
(29:36):
of fifteen people. Dozens more injured the country's deadliest incidents.
It's nineteen ninety six, which you may remember is when
they like put in a bunch of gun laws.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Arthur massacre was nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Oh yeah, and they were like, okay, well no more
of this shit, right, So Prime Minister Anthony Albanise responded
to the news with the usual thoughts and prayer. Oh
wait no, he immediately pledged to tighten the country's gun
control laws. Yeah you did.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Stop politicizing this. Wait, I didn't even realize. I'm like,
I thought they were I thought it was damn near
impossible to get a gun. But it's clearly he's like, well,
we can actually do a lot more, which.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yes, I mean, you can stop most mass shootings. But
the person who want one of the shooters had these
guns legally based on like Australian laws, and so they're like,
well that that wasn't working in that case, and so
we're gonna make gun control even stricter, Which is it's
(30:47):
horrible that responding to a thing by being like, well,
let's see where how we could stop this going forward
is like seems crazy, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
It's again because our the logic that we apply to
legislating in this country so poisoned by like lobbying and
outside groups that you'd be like, dang, these these knives
keep hurting all the we keep putting the babies in
the knife room. What should we do? It's like, maybe
take the knives out.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Nah, No, well that okay, the baby's skin.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
They need knife proof skin that we can develop. And
it's again, in this instance, we have a gun problem.
Let's solve it by eliminating the access the easy access
to weapons, or at least, in this case, make it
even harder to access weapons.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
The hero of the story is a bystanderd name acmeda Acamed,
forty three year old fruit shop owner who literally ran
at the shooter unarmed, tackled him, took his gun away
from him, and then didn't you know, just stop. Stop,
Like probably saved countless lives, but just did you do that?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Ship?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, it's amazing. This guy fucking just pull sneaks up.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
On him and just bear hugs him and then he
got shot twice.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, he got arm I think in the hospital recovering.
They think he's gonna recover, but he's Yeah, just ran
up on him and took it away from him, like
pretty pretty quickly. I was like, Okay, was this guy
part of Oh damn, the character that Chris Pratt played
(32:25):
in Deer Dark thirty was there? I was like, No,
he was just a fruit shop owner. It was like
really brave.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah. And then but he must have had a gun
on him for him to be that.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Brave, right, Well, yeah, because the only way to stop
a bad guy with a gun is a brave fruit
shop owner with a gun. Except no, he just ran
up with nothing but his hands and took the gun
away and then got shot himself.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Wow, this is wild. And then yeah, and after this story,
what don't you know it Benjamin netten Ya who's out
here basically blaming the Prime Minister for supporting a Palestinian state, Yeah, like,
what the fuck is? How is is that's your first response.
And I think this has always been the huge glaring
issue with Prosionist propaganda is they want to make everyone
(33:08):
think that the state of Israel is representative of every
Jewish person in the world and the religion itself. And
so again the idea that connecting like the atrocities that
we see being committed by like Israel to the religion
of Judaism was always confuse, what anti semitism is?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
This is anti Semitism.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
This was exactly was always an obscene notion that may
help in the short term to silence people in a
rhetorical sense to be like, well, don't do that, it's
anti Semitism, and now be able to be like, wait
is it. I'm just talking about like what I saw
these soldiers do. There's nothing to do with the religion.
What was always going to lead to this kind of thing?
And just for him to I mean, this is I'm
(33:49):
not surprised, but Jesus Christ, like, maybe your hearts go
out to these people first before truly trying to like
turn this into And that's why you have to accept
everything that the IDF does, right.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Is pretty yeah, pretty horrifying. And then speaking of a
shocking yet not shocking response to a senseless, horrifying act
of violence. As as mentioned, Rob Reiner and his wife
were found murdered in their home. Uh you know, director
of some great eighties movies and you know there's a
(34:26):
spinal tap and Princess Bride and just a well, he's
like one of those filmmakers where you're like, oh, wait,
he made that too.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, when Harry met Sally, did he.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Just stand by me? I think? Or did he write that?
I think he did do stand by me yet. But yeah,
that's another Like it's just like all these classics that
don't like, you wouldn't necessarily assume they were made by
the same person. So horrifying people Sunday night, People magazine
alleged that the killer was their son, Nick, who had
struggled with substance abuse in the past and and had
(35:01):
been like estranged and then come back with the family,
and then TMZ reported on Monday morning that he was
in police custody. I mean, it's still very early, and
it does seem like everyone was like Sun did it
right away, but so I mean, but we don't know
all the details. Still very early here as we're recording this,
(35:24):
but in terms of like the response, so a bunch
of somebody was like, Reiner hated Trump, so eBrace yourself
for some nasty comments coming from the megaverse. Jeremy London,
Sir Jeremy Lindon wrote that on social media and a
lot of right wing people were like, actually, we're better
(35:48):
than that. Jack Pasobiac said, you won't see people on
the right celebrating the horrific murder of Rob Reiner and
his wife compared to the left's reaction to Charlie Kirk's murder.
We do not operate that way. That's the difference. Nothing
but thoughts and prayers from our side. Uh, Chris Plan
t show, Chris Plant, whoever the fuck that is? Yes,
(36:09):
unlike Democrats when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you won't find
a single prominent conservative who will celebrate this rip. Robin,
Michelle Ryan are very sad. Just the interesting specifically said
prominent conservative because were there prominent voices. I feel like
there were ship posters all over the Internet saying horrible
(36:31):
shit after Charlie Kirk died, But like was it. It
wasn't like a prominent like Biden, wasn't out here like
saying wild ship. It wasn't uh Zorn didn't come out
and say say some shit.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And most of the time people weren't saying wild shit
about Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yea honest, it was just you. You found it and
used it as fodder for your persecution complex. But uh
q Donald Trump, who dropped this one on our A
very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood. Rob Reiner,
a tortured and struggling but once very talented movie director
and comedy star, has passed away together with his wife Michelle. Reportedly.
(37:12):
This is reportedly due to the anger he caused others
through his massive, unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind
crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to
as TDS.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Oh TDS.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yes, he was known to have driven people crazy by
his raging obsession of Donald J. Trump and his obvious
paranoi reaching new heights as the Trump administration surpassed all
goals and expectations of greatness and with the Golden Age
of America upon us, perhaps like never before. May Robin
Michelle rest in peace. Oh he ended it on a
good note. I guess we can sorry, fam, you.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Did this to yourself with your Trump derangement syndrome. Got
your ass.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
What the prime editors landed the plane, he did say hey,
Rob and Michelle rested. I wonder if that's like how
they're going to defend this. He said, rest in peace.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
At the end, the first and last sentences sounded normal.
He said, a very sad thing happened. May he rest
in peace? And then the middle was like, you did
this to yourself yourself by opposing me, And actually this
was like he's almost like he's like a terrorist organization
taking credit for an attack.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
For a murder like this is this is part of
the holy war of people defending my good name? What
fucking like truly hard for him to uh surprise anymore? Yeah,
but really an unbelievable just what the fuck? Yeah, like
(38:56):
how people are like Trump is trolling, like the what what?
That's not the thing that you do?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Well, they look they have have to do. I have
to use every weird excuse to explain why grandfather's dementia's
getting out of control and say everything except that it's
cognitive decline and also that he's just a straight up
evil asshole. So if you can't say, look, he's an
evil asshole, which he's gonna say this, or look, dude,
the guy's losing his fucking brain. Uh, you gotta be
(39:24):
like he's trolling. He likes to do that. He's just
in touch with the ship posters of the world.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
That's fine, being provocative.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I mean, then you can say, then on top of it, right,
there was a shooting at Brown University where at least
I think two at the time of this recording, I
think two people were dead and like like nine injured.
And then Trump at a at a like a Christmas
gathering said quote Brown University, great school, really one of
the greatest schools anywhere in the world. Things can happen.
(39:55):
So to the nine injured, get well fast, and to
the family of those two that are no longer with this,
I pay my deepest regards in respect. Really well put
you know, things get to like speak fucking saying things
can happen. Holy shit. But again, you we should not
expect more from a person like a narcissist who's just
circling the drain.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Cognitive Yeah, that's I guess that's where we're at. But Jesus, yeah,
that's fucking dark. All right, let's take a quick break.
We'll come back and talk about other news. We'll be
right back, and we're back back.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
All right.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
We got Merriam Webster's word of the Year. Thank god,
we had a different Oxford. Maybe with dictionary dot Com.
Were they six seven?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
I don't know, Yeah, that's Dictionary dot Com was six seven,
because they're like, yeah, my friends can teach her and
he hates it. So I'm gonna remember, like we were
reading about like one of the editors of it was
purely because a friend of theirs was a teacher AND's
driving them mad. They're like, in your face, Craig Starward
of the Year Oxford was rage bait.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Oxford's rage bait. And now we got Merriam Webster's, which
is slop.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yep, good. I think that's that feels right. Of all
of them, that felt the most accurate, like six seven
you did that to spite your friend, not I mean,
I get it. It's everyone's saying and it has taken over,
but it's in a way that really only resonates with
people who are in or are like who are in
classrooms around children whatever. After that point, most were like,
(41:41):
what the fuck you're talking about but slop. I think
in the context of how they're talking about it this year,
because this was truly the year of basically what they're
talking was like AI slop nonsense.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
I mean, it was already a word, yeah, I feed
my kids when they're bad.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Exactly know, from the seventeen hundreds actually to mean soft mud,
but it quote evolved more generally to mean something of
little value. The definition has since expanded to me quote
digital content of low quality that has produced usually in
quantity by means of artificial intelligence and between apps like
Sora and you know, the President just loving it. It's
(42:18):
really just become part of like the the mainstream, to
the point where I even have to like tell my mom,
I'm like, this is slop nonop. I'm sorry, because it's
like it's one thing, if you know, and you're like
ha ha ha whatever. I'm moving on in my day.
But to get like hung up on it where my
mom like this, can you believe what this bear is doing?
I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Why would I In the accordion, it was like it
was like at a it was like tending a campfire.
That's like pok in the air.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
It was like some shit, and I was like, I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (42:53):
It has no concept of fire out of maintain a fire.
And she's like I just thought it was smart, and
I'm like, yeah, all yell boomers really just I think
because they their media literacy ends at if it's on TV,
it's true, right, and if someone recorded it, it's true.
That's kind of where it ends.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
It's it's confusing times. They got me with the uh
with the deer and the bunny on the love that one,
but I love that one.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
I mean, look, without Sora, we wouldn't have been able
to see what the price is right, would have looked
like if Bob Barker was a London roadman speaking patois
to the audience, because that's that one. Oh, there's so
many Bob like pat Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
It's so I mean, that's good work. Let's distinguish here
between bad slap and good slap.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
It's like just one of those things where you're just like, ah,
it's because again it's basically lets people rank out a
dumb idea, but the amount, but also this content has
taken over everything, Like interest is all nonsense. Images, YouTube
reels is so much fucking wacky ass AI slop meant
(44:09):
to look just just close enough to reality where you
go like, damn, how'd that guy do that in his
car with his dog driving?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Did you see the one of the guy from h
who the tweaking AI executive And like they just had
him doing like an incredible like pummel horse routine on
his seat, like his his like moved. Yeah, the squirminess
like turned into him being like doing this is.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Where I do feel bad because this does take the
work from political satirists who write cartoons, because that would
have been a cartoon. Yeah, yeah, and now but I
think that's like the difference too, is like sometimes when
you see the real video versions, like okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
The slop is you know it has taken you know,
it's taken over ads, It's taken over like you know,
all over the place, like Donald Trump is posting himself
shitting on people. So like it's it is bad. It's
also interesting, like there there was this moment where they're
like we're really like seeing increased results with these like
(45:17):
machine learning algorithms, and like we we used it to
decode like protein structures like faster than we could have
Like what what do we use this for? And like
we think of AI as a brand, like this is
what they've gone with is something that's.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Called scale because they have to scale it. That's the
problem is like it wasn't good enough to be like, well,
we can incrementally work on this thing that clearly has
a use case in these specific instances.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Right.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
But then because so many of these people who had
these companies also like lack any real world connection, they're like,
oh my god, dude, Will Smith eating spaghetti? Was he
actually eating that?
Speaker 1 (45:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Oh my god, yes, dude. When people see this, they're
gonna fucking flip out.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
How's he eating so much spaghetti? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (46:05):
And you cut to like everything we've seen too, even
with like the other programs, there's company after company that
signs these like enterprise deals for like large scale use
of like an AI product. They kick it down to
their workers, they don't use it anymore. And then you
see all these companies who are basically like after the fact,
like yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
Tried, it's just like not really working.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Productivity was down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, there was a lot of that going around this weekend,
all right. Uh. And finally, in a related story, Christmas
Tree farms like fucking get out of the way. Move bitch,
get out of the way. So Fox News had a
story about how there's a Christmas tree farm in Maryland
(46:48):
that is getting in the way. That's like, I don't
want your high voltage power line to cut through my
Christmas tree farm because it's like bad for the fucking environment,
yeah or whatever, but they need, like it's gonna be
very inconvenient for these businesses. They're gonna have to spend
money to AI is already not profitable and never will be.
(47:12):
So this is annoying, Like but like this is an inevitability.
People need their slop.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Wait, so they are Oh, the Maryland Christmas tree farm
is saying, don't bring your high voltage power lines to
power a fucking data center.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yes, out of Northern Virginia. Which Northern Virginia. You know,
only good stuff is happening with their applications of AI.
You know, you get the CIA there, so the Pentagon,
so it's gonna be good stuff happening. And so Fox
Business Networks Dagan mcdale said that everyone should just suck
it up and quote buy a fake tree instead of
(47:49):
holding up quote growth and development of business. Shut the
fuck up, dude.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
I wonder like, what do Fox Business viewers think when
they hear someone be like, man, fuck you're getting in
the way of growth and development.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
That I state up the bad guy from a Christmas movie. Yeah,
you're just like, burn this fucking Christmas tree farm down.
You can have a fake plastic tree and it's gonna
be fine, doesn't need to even be realistic. Just shut
the fuck up.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Okay, let's hear from Dagandal.
Speaker 5 (48:23):
So this farm is one hundred and fifty acres. Yeah,
they're going to be farms, and there will be transmission
lines that have to go through developments and farms. That's
the very nature of a growing economy.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Like, that's everybody, because you'res bullshit cat, got your tongue
out of the way.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
You gotta make the power the fucking line. Okay, go on,
maybe there's.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
To get on board. I just don't.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
It's a you know what, you know what, buy a
fake tree?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Oh oh oh, digger right in my heart.
Speaker 3 (48:59):
What I have a tree?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I know I can't afford the tree.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Shut up, Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you're doing capitalist
fucking propagand you can't afford a tree.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Capitalist propaganda under a header. There's a big header over
the thing that says rise of AI and they're telling
Christmas tree farms to get the fuck out the way
this is. Fox was freaking out about Portland's disrespecting a
Christmas tree by calling it a holiday tree like two
weeks ago, right right, like the War on Christmas is back.
(49:36):
And then they're people.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
Because you know, the Fox News version of a fake
tree would be like, well, you know, all the fake
trees are made in China, and we need to go
It's America first, baby, why are we we got all
these trees we can fucking chop down that you can
have and then throw in the street in January? Uh well,
at least a panelists were like oh dagon no, like Dan,
(49:58):
what the fuck she was doing? Like a racist take?
Like like a normal network, They're like, oh no, let's
not do that. Come on now, Oh god, oh you're
going there, you're going there.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I know I can't afford the tree.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Really a tree that's bleeding me dry? Do you I
think you're using it wrong? What do you mean you
can't afford you?
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Because I'm seeing the inverted trees, like inverted fake trees.
There's a whole thing I was I was looking at,
uh where there's these trees that are just oriented with
the tip end down at the base and then it
flares up like a fucking like a trump like a
bell of a trumpet.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
And this is like something that you can buy for
your home.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yes, this is like the the I guess it's like
a new wave like of fake trees.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
I mean that that's fun. I would feel like I
was like at a fun like museum exhibit or something.
It's different than the presence underneath.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
It's different yet familiar enough where you're like, huh.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
If there's something obsceneing you're showing me a picture of
it and it looks drunk, it looks like I'm about
to like look up its skirt or something, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Or it looks like or it's so big it looks
like it's like a V shaped torso it looks like
debo and it's like it's about to slide on you,
Like what the fuck this big gas street? But anyway,
there's all kinds of week.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Is this for satanist smiles exactly?
Speaker 3 (51:19):
It's for stranger things fans because you're celebrating the upside down.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
We're all on the upside down. But you can fit
more presents under the tree, which again that is woke.
To get your children a bunch of Christmas presents is woke.
Jocald Trump has said buy less Christmas presents for children.
The economy is struggling. And if you're complaining about that,
fuck you yip fuck.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, sorry, what do you want me to fucking do
about it? Just because I said I would lower prices?
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Day one, good old fashioned conservative values. Uh, embracing the
rise of AI to tear down Christmas breeze because Christmas
doesn't matter anyways, and you don't have to buy that
many presents for your kids.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
You've summed it up swish box nail for the last
fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
All right. Those are some of the things that are
trending on this Monday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with
a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be
kind to each other and be kind to yourselves. Get
your vaccines where you still can get your flu shots.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to you all tomorrow. Bye.
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Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!