In this edition of Trend Lasso SeasTrend Three, Jack, super producer Becca and writer JM McNab discuss the Hailey Bieber/Selena Gomez drama, Nike's 'Ted Lasso' merch, the trailer for the 'Blackberry' movie, Aaron Rodgers preparing to move to the Jets, mass shooting safe rooms... in schools, and the REAL reason Tom Cruise skipped the Oscars!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Trend
Lasso Sees Trend three. I am Jack and I'm thrilled
to be joined by the writer and researcher for the
Daily's like guys, mister Jam mcnah hello, thank you for
having me and Jam. We are fortunate to be joined
(00:20):
for a very first segment by superproducer Becca Roma and
we are thritten now just just the three of us.
What if I just kind of introducing people. Yeah, Becca,
thank you, thank you for joining us on such short notice.
You there was an emergency we did need to bring
you into explain what is happening with Selena Hailey Justin
(00:46):
for all the Lasso heads out there. We'll get to it.
Not really, we'll talk about some merch that they dropped,
but this is a story that we were going to
talk about yesterday didn't get to. But um, I have
been seeing mention of some manner of controversy between Selena
Gomez Haley and Justin Bieber and then you're saying brands
(01:08):
are getting involved. What's that brands are getting involved? It
came through one of my newsletters that I follow Big Spaceship,
But this tweet is from or the threat is from
Sophia Rawl's spelled our uhl s at the end of that.
But she tweeted, since it's Women's History Month, here's every
brand slash company that it's disgracefully engaged in the recent
(01:29):
witch hunt of Haley Bieber. I agree. I think it
is really disgraceful. No matter what side you land on
this debate, I think it is kind of just really
gross to think that it's like okay to a pit
women against each other on the internet and be just
I don't even have proper words because A I don't
(01:51):
really enjoy these people, all of them involved. They're all
rich celebrities, right, So like, how bad can we feel
for a bunch of rich celebrities? Can you explain what
the just controversy? Like, jam and I are fully on board,
and there's so many things going on, we know all
about it, but you tell us so we make sure
jam and I the reason we had to bring you in.
(02:12):
Jam and I got into such a violent argument about yeah,
about Selena or be I don't know what justin j Dailey,
Jayley and Jelena Okay, day just between the three of them. No,
So this has been a long gooing conversation for years
and years and years. In the pop culture community of
(02:33):
Selena Hailey, Justin stands because Selena and Justin dated for
many years, like seven or eight years, but it was
on and off. Justin was notoriously not a great partner.
He I don't want to say abuse her, there's no
allegations of that, but there was definitely cheating allegations and
just general you know, not healthy. It was a toxic
relationship between the two of them, and they famously were
(02:56):
together like months before Hailey and Justin got together and
got married. And it was supposed that he spent Valentine's
Day with Selena the year that he started dating Haley,
like literally days or weeks later, And I saw that
like he and Selena went on a famous date where
(03:18):
he like rented out the Staples Center for their date
and what to watch, uh, Titanic, I believe, which I think.
So it seems like a bad venue to watch a
movie when you got money, honey, you gotta make a statement,
you gotta not see it in a movie theater. And
then it's saying that I can rent the Staples Center,
(03:41):
you know, totally. But ever since Haley and Justin got together.
There's been from the Selena camp this witch hunt against
Haley Bieber, being like she's copying Selena. She she is
such a mean girl, and I'm not going to negate
any of those things. You know, she is a privileged
white woman who married a man of her dreams that
(04:03):
allegedly people were saying potentially her dad maybe arranged that
a little bit. You know, who's the saying I'm not
in these rules, But I don't think it's fair the
hate she's been getting lately on the internet. There's just
been this split on TikTok where it's like, supposedly Haley
Bieber sub tweeted in the form of a TikTok a
(04:27):
trend that was like God's timing is a ladies right
about Selena? Basically kind of shitn't on her. And then
Selena famously was like I'm getting off in the internet
right now, and then everyone was like, oh my god,
Selena's mental health, like we must eat at Haley Bieber.
And then it's just been this war between Haley and
Selena and people doing these supercuts of like taking videos
(04:49):
in a context being like, oh my god, Justin doesn't
even like her, like and once again not negating that
those things are true, because notoriously, Justin seems like a
bad partner. But I think that brings in the conversation,
why are we not talking about that? Why are we
pitting two women against each other? One woman who seems
very insecure in her marriage and in her relationship and
(05:09):
in life. She's very young and is being pitted against
one of the most famous people on the planet. Selena
has the most Instagram followers in the world, Like she
has been famous since she was four on Barney. You know,
it's not easy competition, to say the least, So there's
just a lot. I think people need to get offline
and go touch grass. As we were mentioning on tomorrow's episode,
(05:31):
like it is very much if you feel the need
to get on the Internet and say something nasty about
Haley and Selena in this specific context where none of
us are involved in their relationships, their love lives, what
goes on behind the scenes, honestly, and if you have
any opinion on this conversation and you're not interrogating Justin
(05:53):
Bieber of it all, then your problem. You know, like
he seems like the common denominator, the overall trend is
to just shit shit on Haley Beaver. Like even at
the Vanity Awards, people are taking clips of her being
at the Vanity Fair after not Vanity Awards. Excuse me,
the officer Vannyfair after Oscar after part yet um she
(06:14):
awards Sanity Awards because everyone's looking core Gina. Um No,
but she's sitting there taking photos and like people are
going in the photos behind her, and typically you have
handlers that are like making sure no one's walking behind
you to take these photos. And people are even taking
that like clip of her looking upset from someone walking
in her photos being like yese. Even her team doesn't
(06:37):
like her, Like everyone fucking hates this bit, like is crazy.
It's like you're not even there in those circles to
know what's going on, you know, like get offline. Yeah,
I don't like any of these people, but like I'm
not sitting here wanting to hate on either women. It
is women's historym mouth. This is embarrassing for us. So anyway,
all that to say, this thread is just brands choosing
(06:58):
Selena like jumping on the hay train to ship on Haley.
You got to do a lingo in here. I always
want to know what their opinion is on the young
people's relationship. Literally, you got Hulu commenting literally being like
what language is this and how can we start speaking it? Okay,
being like I want to speak the language of Team
Selena for a secret um literally ripping up their ads
(07:24):
that have victoria or that aspeci victory they have Haley
Bieber on them. That's crazy. Yeah, you have a face
tune cutting Haley Bieber out of this famous photo that
Selena and Haley took not too long ago that we're
supposed to be kind of squashing the beef between the
two of them. Yeah, but what is what a Burger
and sunny d think of all? This is exactly they say.
(07:46):
We don't know, we know you didn't ask, but we're
team seleiner. Um, you have BuzzFeed doing a mean girl
attribution attribution. Wow, I can't speak today all sorry. Um,
Starbucks and Dutch Bros doing their chip jars is a
Team Selena versus Team Haley BuzzFeed. I'm gonna allow it
because they are just like, that's their point is to
(08:08):
be like snark, like media company and like if the
if it helps the Starbucks employees get more pips. Sure.
And also they're not like being mean to one side
or the other. They're just putting their names on the
tip jars, whereas yea, they have the tips having a
(08:29):
brand like a Hamburger company that's probably run by like
some sixty seven year old white guy be like, we
know you didn't ask, but we're team Selena is just like, so,
disn't in the slaughterhouse and yeah, exactly. Literally, it's just
it's it's just gross. And I just ask everyone. I
(08:52):
know this was a chaotic explanation. I've been just deep
in it y'all on TikTok. I just want to out
to interrogate the internalized misogyny maybe of choosing these two
to be pitted against each other, because at the end
of the day, there's a long series of allegations and
evidence that Justin Bieber is not great. And that's not
(09:14):
to say that he hasn't suffered from, you know, mental
health crises and that he hasn't gone through a lot
as someone who is exploited as a pop star from
a young age. But is he a good partner to
his wife? I don't think so, based on everything going on.
Was he good partner to Selena Gomez. No, and I
would never wish on Selena to get back with him,
and I would never wish on Haley to be having
(09:35):
a bad partner, like that's not good for anyone, to
have a partner who's not supportive, who doesn't seem really
interested in you, doesn't seem like they love you. That sucks.
So there's my aunt, all right, welcome, Well, thank you.
I do feel like I now know what all of
this bullshit means, and women and the listeners appreciate it. Yeah.
(09:56):
I do think just like generally, I do go online
and just ask the internet for all my relationship advice.
I think. I think it's good and smart and they
never failed me. I will say, Barbie's silence is deafening.
All right. So on the ted Lasso front, Nike just
(10:18):
released some jerseys of the fake team from ted Lasso,
complete with sponsorship from the also fictional tech startup Banter,
and you can buy those for the lolow price of
one hundred and five dollars. The Lasso heads are out here.
Apparently there was also a ted Lasso Build a bear
(10:39):
that cost eighty four dollars. But this is the last season, right,
So they're trying to get in there, get as much
as you can. I guess, yeah, I mean I liked
Ted Lasso, but yeah, when you have a Build a
Bear it looks like Jason Sadekis, it makes it really
hard to not turn against the show. Right, Yeah, I
(11:02):
mean it's a pretty cute Build a Bear, but I
mean I do I did buy it, I did order it,
but yeah, you know, I didn't feel good about it.
And then, just in keeping with our overall trend that
we're seeing where brands are the new protagonist, the new
like if you want to make a movie, you want
(11:23):
to get a movie greenlit, make a movie in which
Wendy's is the protagonist and people people will be on board.
But the other problem I'm seeing with covering this trend
from my end is the trailers look like good to me,
Like yeah, the Air Jordan trailer like Air. I mean,
(11:44):
it looks silly, but it looks also like something that
I'm going to have a good time at the movies,
just turning my brain off and watching. And now there
is a trailer out for a BlackBerry movie and I
don't don't know. Yeah, like again, it's it seems like
a bad symptom for our culture overall, that this is
(12:08):
what we're making our movies about. But it also as
somebody who lives inside our culture, I am subject to
its whims and am into these movies because for the
same reason that, like I don't know, succession is popular.
You know, Shakespeare wrote about the royals. That's who runs
the world now, and so of course we're gonna want
(12:32):
to watch movies with brand protagonists. But the BlackBerry movie
looks like it's like a kind of rollicking comedy with
Jay Barrischell, who I'm a fan of. Lenn Howarton playing
a evil corporate straight man looks like he shaved his
head into a male pattern baldness for the role, which
(12:54):
admirable commitment, looks like shit, almost unrecognized. But Jam, what
are your thoughts? Are you gonna be black bearing it
up at the movie theaters? I probably will. Yeah. The
thing I wanted to tell you about this movie is
it was actually directed by a friend of mine. Oh, Matt, Yeah,
and he's in it. He's one of the guys. He's
(13:16):
the guy that's not Jay Barrichell or or Glenn howardton
wine in the trailer that made me laugh out loud. Yeah,
he was like pitching it based on Star Wars and
then was like, wait, have you seen Star Wars? We'll
look at that. Yeah exactly. So yeah, Matt and I
went to a film school together and stayed friends. Yeah,
(13:37):
so I'll definitely be seeing it at a certain point.
But he you know, I was thinking about it. I
hadn't watched the trailer until just before the podcast, and
I was watching it, I was thinking of something Matt
said a long time ago, which was remember the movie Primer,
where they it's like the time travel movie, but it's
a bunch of like you know, there's a lot of
just guys building things and yeah, yeah, it's like it's
(14:01):
an indie movie that is made on an indie budget,
and like you can see that in almost every shot.
But at the same time, it like it's ingenious, like
how they did it. It has since become like a
thing that is like known mostly for having annoying fans
who want to explain it right, yeah, exact its Yeah,
(14:21):
but remember I remember at the time Matt was like, uh,
it wasn't a fan of the movie, which was surprising
because most of the other people our age really liked it,
and I remember him saying that his problem with it
was that like whenever you meet like tech guys like that,
like they're usually funny, like they're joking around, they're being silly,
(14:41):
they're goofing off as they're like, you know, working on things,
and that all the people in the movie were just
deadly serious the whole time. Yeah, Christopher Nolan type shit. Yeah,
I just forgotten about that until watching this trailer. I
was like, oh, this is kind of like that. It's
like one of these sort of serious movies about you know,
like the social network or something like we're creating this
(15:03):
tech thing, but then some of them are just silly, right, Yeah,
So I mean, yeah, I'll go see it. The other
thing I was going to say is I think it's
a I'm guessing part of the reason why he wanted
to make it is because, and I didn't know this
before this, but the BlackBerry apparently was created in the kitchener, Ontario,
which is like just a little past Toronto, like not
(15:25):
too far from here, so so there's like a local connection. Yeah.
So uh yeah, I'm interested. But I'm like, you, like
I when I hear about these brand movies, my I
roll my eyes. But then I'm also like, I saw
that Tetris trailer. I was like, oh, this this is
what happened with Tetris. I guess I'll watch this. Yeah, absolutely.
(15:48):
I mean I kind of learned my lesson with the
Social Network where I was like, uh, this is gonna
be dog shit, it sucks, and then the Social Network
was pretty good. Everybody did Everyone thought it was a joke. Yeah,
it did make Mark Zuckerberg look both way cooler than
he is in reality and also terrible. Like but anyways,
(16:12):
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back, and Aaron Rodgers is going to the Jets,
famously bad franchise. Do you follow American football at all, jam, No,
(16:35):
not really. I know who Aaron Rodgers is, but yeah, yeah,
I didn't know he was going to the Jets. Now
is that official or is that just like a rumor
he said that he's preparing to play for the Jets
or something like that. But it does seem like he
is the level of talented, like famous and also annoying
to work with that if he wants to do something
(16:58):
in the franchise that he's with, chooses not to do it,
then he will make it annoying enough that they'll just
like go ahead and do it. So I think it
seems like his current team, the team has been with
his whole career. The Packers are working on getting him there.
So we'll say, but for some reason, just like when
New York has interesting, compelling sports teams, I am more interested.
(17:21):
Like I was excited that the Knicks were mounting a
campaign to be a pretty serious team in the East
in the NBA, and this at least gets me excited
just because it's one of the big cities and they've
had a rough run for a while when it comes
to professional sports. And then just an update on something,
(17:42):
a story that we talked about a while back that
is now coming to fruition. So in this Vice article
says this week in news that is surely a sign
of a healthy functioning society. An elementary school in Alabama
has deployed a nation whiteboard mass shooting safe room, meeting room,
(18:04):
sensory deprivation chamber for overwhelmed students. And this is I
remember it was in the immediate aftermath of one of
the many mass shootings and just talking about how terrifying
it is to send my kids to school, and I
think a lot of parents for them to send their
kids to school and just know that that's a possibility.
(18:26):
And like this came up and I was like, this
is both like horrifying, Like it's just a horrifying sign
of like a dystopian, post apocalyptic society, and also like
I would want that in my kids classroom, assuming it works.
Because yeah, like just the idea of you know, being
(18:49):
in the position of those parents who are on the
outside of the police tape as you're just like waiting
for the results of a school shooting, you know, like
and there's nothing thing you can do, like is one
of the base nightmares that you have as a parent
in this country. And so um, yeah, both horrifying and
(19:09):
also like totally see why schools would It's also just
like the most American thing. Rather than like putting reasonable
restrictions on gun access, which would cut down on costs,
you just get rid of any restrictions on gun access,
but then also sell an additional product that can you know,
(19:32):
boost the economy. And but of course like that, there
are questions about like how to schools afford this when
there's no funding for schools, like Yeah, it's like you
can't even afford fucking school supplies. You can't afford paper
and shock. But yes, yeah, we'll put a bat cave
(19:52):
in your school, right. Yeah, so cool country, but it's
just so much work compared to you know, yeah, just
enacting reasonable kind of control laws. It's just regulations. We're
allergic to them, folks, or we've we've convinced ourselves we're
(20:12):
allergic to him. Anyways. Uh, some people think Tom Cruise
get the oscars because of Nicole Kidman, So there's that
that can't be right. I know it seems like bullshit,
but I feel like we see them together at events sometimes. No,
that's what I thought. But according to the Daily Mail,
(20:33):
jam oh come so exactly. Okay. I assumed it was
because there was the scientology joke and they were like, okay,
is he cool with us? And he was like, I
will not be there. They ran l Ron hubba hubba
past yes, and he had people they didn't take them
and he was he was out. Yeah. That was kind
(20:54):
of surprising that he wasn't there because he yeah, he
was supposed to be, I think, but I can't imagine
post and like I remember, like in the Cup, Like
the run up to it, people being like, and Tom
Cruise will be there and be like the center of
attention because he like saved movies this year with Top Gun. Yeah,
he was going to be like yeah, I heard some
(21:16):
people saying he was gonna be like the Nicholson of
the Oscars this year, like they're gonna put him front
and center kind of. Yeah, he didn't like the l
Ron hubbabba jokes, tell you that much. But they broke
up like twenty five years ago. Like yeah, and this
feels together. Yeah, this feels like a story that was
put out by Tom Cruise's team to like just you know,
smoke bomb like a bunch of confusion. He was probably
(21:40):
just like expunging theatins somewhere right something of or joining
a motorcycle off of a cliff. Yeah, for some reason,
that's what that was. The other Actually, so they my guests,
based on my very limited understanding of how these things work,
is that his team put this anonym sourced thing out
(22:01):
there then not anonymously shot it down. It was like,
actually he's off shooting Mission Impossible eight and there were
unforeseen scheduling conflicts and so it's just like it creates
a story that leads us off any semblance of like
what actually was going on, or they just realized that
people don't like seeing Tom Cruise. We like seeing Tom
(22:24):
Cruise movies where he's pretending to be someone doing something dangerous,
but like actually seeing Tom Cruise as himself out in
the world, I think it's probably less appealing and has
the potential to go off the rails. Like even when
he does things like I remember during the pandemic he
did that video where he just went to the movies.
(22:45):
He went to go see Tenant, Yeah, and strapped on
a Yeah. He's super intense and like even that was
like thirty seconds long and people were like that was weird,
Like and all was with him going to a movie. Yeah,
just does everything to the stream. Yeah, and he would
look like bane he had this like giant mask on
and it's like, oh, that's what That's the kind of
(23:06):
mask movie stars got. I'm just I have like a
piece of cotton. Yeah, Yeah, he had he had one
of the masks that like had the valves on it, Yeah,
which we I think had already learned at that point
that that was like good for protecting you, but like
you were just shedding virus like when you wore it.
But they were like, yeah, well that doesn't really factor
(23:28):
into what Tom Cruise wears on his face. Guys, They're like,
it's Tom Cruise. His people are like, I assume everyone
wanted to be sprayed by his essence. They sit for
two and a half hours in a room with him.
Did see him in person once. He is a glorious
specimen of humanity. He appears too just like hover off
the ground like a half inch at all times. It's
(23:49):
pretty crazy. That was just the lifts, oh right, right, yeah,
and he's like shoes light up and he rolls around
on them. Got unfamiliar with those kids shoes, Jam, thanks
so much for doing it. Where can people find you?
Follow you? You can find me on Twitter at Jam
McNab Again. All right, that's going to do it for
(24:12):
us this afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole
last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to
each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, don't
do nothing about white supremacy, and we'll talk to you
all tomorrow. Fight
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Trend
Lasso Sees Trend three. I am Jack and I'm thrilled
to be joined by the writer and researcher for the
Daily's like guys, mister Jam mcnah hello, thank you for
having me and Jam. We are fortunate to be joined
(00:20):
for a very first segment by superproducer Becca Roma and
we are thritten now just just the three of us.
What if I just kind of introducing people. Yeah, Becca,
thank you, thank you for joining us on such short notice.
You there was an emergency we did need to bring
you into explain what is happening with Selena Hailey Justin
(00:46):
for all the Lasso heads out there. We'll get to it.
Not really, we'll talk about some merch that they dropped,
but this is a story that we were going to
talk about yesterday didn't get to. But um, I have
been seeing mention of some manner of controversy between Selena
Gomez Haley and Justin Bieber and then you're saying brands
(01:08):
are getting involved. What's that brands are getting involved? It
came through one of my newsletters that I follow Big Spaceship,
But this tweet is from or the threat is from
Sophia Rawl's spelled our uhl s at the end of that.
But she tweeted, since it's Women's History Month, here's every
brand slash company that it's disgracefully engaged in the recent
(01:29):
witch hunt of Haley Bieber. I agree. I think it
is really disgraceful. No matter what side you land on
this debate, I think it is kind of just really
gross to think that it's like okay to a pit
women against each other on the internet and be just
I don't even have proper words because A I don't
(01:51):
really enjoy these people, all of them involved. They're all
rich celebrities, right, So like, how bad can we feel
for a bunch of rich celebrities? Can you explain what
the just controversy? Like, jam and I are fully on board,
and there's so many things going on, we know all
about it, but you tell us so we make sure
jam and I the reason we had to bring you in.
(02:12):
Jam and I got into such a violent argument about yeah,
about Selena or be I don't know what justin j Dailey,
Jayley and Jelena Okay, day just between the three of them. No,
So this has been a long gooing conversation for years
and years and years. In the pop culture community of
(02:33):
Selena Hailey, Justin stands because Selena and Justin dated for
many years, like seven or eight years, but it was
on and off. Justin was notoriously not a great partner.
He I don't want to say abuse her, there's no
allegations of that, but there was definitely cheating allegations and
just general you know, not healthy. It was a toxic
relationship between the two of them, and they famously were
(02:56):
together like months before Hailey and Justin got together and
got married. And it was supposed that he spent Valentine's
Day with Selena the year that he started dating Haley,
like literally days or weeks later, And I saw that
like he and Selena went on a famous date where
(03:18):
he like rented out the Staples Center for their date
and what to watch, uh, Titanic, I believe, which I think.
So it seems like a bad venue to watch a
movie when you got money, honey, you gotta make a statement,
you gotta not see it in a movie theater. And
then it's saying that I can rent the Staples Center,
(03:41):
you know, totally. But ever since Haley and Justin got together.
There's been from the Selena camp this witch hunt against
Haley Bieber, being like she's copying Selena. She she is
such a mean girl, and I'm not going to negate
any of those things. You know, she is a privileged
white woman who married a man of her dreams that
(04:03):
allegedly people were saying potentially her dad maybe arranged that
a little bit. You know, who's the saying I'm not
in these rules, But I don't think it's fair the
hate she's been getting lately on the internet. There's just
been this split on TikTok where it's like, supposedly Haley
Bieber sub tweeted in the form of a TikTok a
(04:27):
trend that was like God's timing is a ladies right
about Selena? Basically kind of shitn't on her. And then
Selena famously was like I'm getting off in the internet
right now, and then everyone was like, oh my god,
Selena's mental health, like we must eat at Haley Bieber.
And then it's just been this war between Haley and
Selena and people doing these supercuts of like taking videos
(04:49):
in a context being like, oh my god, Justin doesn't
even like her, like and once again not negating that
those things are true, because notoriously, Justin seems like a
bad partner. But I think that brings in the conversation,
why are we not talking about that? Why are we
pitting two women against each other? One woman who seems
very insecure in her marriage and in her relationship and
(05:09):
in life. She's very young and is being pitted against
one of the most famous people on the planet. Selena
has the most Instagram followers in the world, Like she
has been famous since she was four on Barney. You know,
it's not easy competition, to say the least, So there's
just a lot. I think people need to get offline
and go touch grass. As we were mentioning on tomorrow's episode,
(05:31):
like it is very much if you feel the need
to get on the Internet and say something nasty about
Haley and Selena in this specific context where none of
us are involved in their relationships, their love lives, what
goes on behind the scenes, honestly, and if you have
any opinion on this conversation and you're not interrogating Justin
(05:53):
Bieber of it all, then your problem. You know, like
he seems like the common denominator, the overall trend is
to just shit shit on Haley Beaver. Like even at
the Vanity Awards, people are taking clips of her being
at the Vanity Fair after not Vanity Awards. Excuse me,
the officer Vannyfair after Oscar after part yet um she
(06:14):
awards Sanity Awards because everyone's looking core Gina. Um No,
but she's sitting there taking photos and like people are
going in the photos behind her, and typically you have
handlers that are like making sure no one's walking behind
you to take these photos. And people are even taking
that like clip of her looking upset from someone walking
in her photos being like yese. Even her team doesn't
(06:37):
like her, Like everyone fucking hates this bit, like is crazy.
It's like you're not even there in those circles to
know what's going on, you know, like get offline. Yeah,
I don't like any of these people, but like I'm
not sitting here wanting to hate on either women. It
is women's historym mouth. This is embarrassing for us. So anyway,
all that to say, this thread is just brands choosing
(06:58):
Selena like jumping on the hay train to ship on Haley.
You got to do a lingo in here. I always
want to know what their opinion is on the young
people's relationship. Literally, you got Hulu commenting literally being like
what language is this and how can we start speaking it? Okay,
being like I want to speak the language of Team
Selena for a secret um literally ripping up their ads
(07:24):
that have victoria or that aspeci victory they have Haley
Bieber on them. That's crazy. Yeah, you have a face
tune cutting Haley Bieber out of this famous photo that
Selena and Haley took not too long ago that we're
supposed to be kind of squashing the beef between the
two of them. Yeah, but what is what a Burger
and sunny d think of all? This is exactly they say.
(07:46):
We don't know, we know you didn't ask, but we're
team seleiner. Um, you have BuzzFeed doing a mean girl
attribution attribution. Wow, I can't speak today all sorry. Um,
Starbucks and Dutch Bros doing their chip jars is a
Team Selena versus Team Haley BuzzFeed. I'm gonna allow it
because they are just like, that's their point is to
(08:08):
be like snark, like media company and like if the
if it helps the Starbucks employees get more pips. Sure.
And also they're not like being mean to one side
or the other. They're just putting their names on the
tip jars, whereas yea, they have the tips having a
(08:29):
brand like a Hamburger company that's probably run by like
some sixty seven year old white guy be like, we
know you didn't ask, but we're team Selena is just like, so,
disn't in the slaughterhouse and yeah, exactly. Literally, it's just
it's it's just gross. And I just ask everyone. I
(08:52):
know this was a chaotic explanation. I've been just deep
in it y'all on TikTok. I just want to out
to interrogate the internalized misogyny maybe of choosing these two
to be pitted against each other, because at the end
of the day, there's a long series of allegations and
evidence that Justin Bieber is not great. And that's not
(09:14):
to say that he hasn't suffered from, you know, mental
health crises and that he hasn't gone through a lot
as someone who is exploited as a pop star from
a young age. But is he a good partner to
his wife? I don't think so, based on everything going on.
Was he good partner to Selena Gomez. No, and I
would never wish on Selena to get back with him,
and I would never wish on Haley to be having
(09:35):
a bad partner, like that's not good for anyone, to
have a partner who's not supportive, who doesn't seem really
interested in you, doesn't seem like they love you. That sucks.
So there's my aunt, all right, welcome, Well, thank you.
I do feel like I now know what all of
this bullshit means, and women and the listeners appreciate it. Yeah.
(09:56):
I do think just like generally, I do go online
and just ask the internet for all my relationship advice.
I think. I think it's good and smart and they
never failed me. I will say, Barbie's silence is deafening.
All right. So on the ted Lasso front, Nike just
(10:18):
released some jerseys of the fake team from ted Lasso,
complete with sponsorship from the also fictional tech startup Banter,
and you can buy those for the lolow price of
one hundred and five dollars. The Lasso heads are out here.
Apparently there was also a ted Lasso Build a bear
(10:39):
that cost eighty four dollars. But this is the last season, right,
So they're trying to get in there, get as much
as you can. I guess, yeah, I mean I liked
Ted Lasso, but yeah, when you have a Build a
Bear it looks like Jason Sadekis, it makes it really
hard to not turn against the show. Right, Yeah, I
(11:02):
mean it's a pretty cute Build a Bear, but I
mean I do I did buy it, I did order it,
but yeah, you know, I didn't feel good about it.
And then, just in keeping with our overall trend that
we're seeing where brands are the new protagonist, the new
like if you want to make a movie, you want
(11:23):
to get a movie greenlit, make a movie in which
Wendy's is the protagonist and people people will be on board.
But the other problem I'm seeing with covering this trend
from my end is the trailers look like good to me,
Like yeah, the Air Jordan trailer like Air. I mean,
(11:44):
it looks silly, but it looks also like something that
I'm going to have a good time at the movies,
just turning my brain off and watching. And now there
is a trailer out for a BlackBerry movie and I
don't don't know. Yeah, like again, it's it seems like
a bad symptom for our culture overall, that this is
(12:08):
what we're making our movies about. But it also as
somebody who lives inside our culture, I am subject to
its whims and am into these movies because for the
same reason that, like I don't know, succession is popular.
You know, Shakespeare wrote about the royals. That's who runs
the world now, and so of course we're gonna want
(12:32):
to watch movies with brand protagonists. But the BlackBerry movie
looks like it's like a kind of rollicking comedy with
Jay Barrischell, who I'm a fan of. Lenn Howarton playing
a evil corporate straight man looks like he shaved his
head into a male pattern baldness for the role, which
(12:54):
admirable commitment, looks like shit, almost unrecognized. But Jam, what
are your thoughts? Are you gonna be black bearing it
up at the movie theaters? I probably will. Yeah. The
thing I wanted to tell you about this movie is
it was actually directed by a friend of mine. Oh, Matt, Yeah,
and he's in it. He's one of the guys. He's
(13:16):
the guy that's not Jay Barrichell or or Glenn howardton
wine in the trailer that made me laugh out loud. Yeah,
he was like pitching it based on Star Wars and
then was like, wait, have you seen Star Wars? We'll
look at that. Yeah exactly. So yeah, Matt and I
went to a film school together and stayed friends. Yeah,
(13:37):
so I'll definitely be seeing it at a certain point.
But he you know, I was thinking about it. I
hadn't watched the trailer until just before the podcast, and
I was watching it, I was thinking of something Matt
said a long time ago, which was remember the movie Primer,
where they it's like the time travel movie, but it's
a bunch of like you know, there's a lot of
just guys building things and yeah, yeah, it's like it's
(14:01):
an indie movie that is made on an indie budget,
and like you can see that in almost every shot.
But at the same time, it like it's ingenious, like
how they did it. It has since become like a
thing that is like known mostly for having annoying fans
who want to explain it right, yeah, exact its Yeah,
(14:21):
but remember I remember at the time Matt was like, uh,
it wasn't a fan of the movie, which was surprising
because most of the other people our age really liked it,
and I remember him saying that his problem with it
was that like whenever you meet like tech guys like that,
like they're usually funny, like they're joking around, they're being silly,
(14:41):
they're goofing off as they're like, you know, working on things,
and that all the people in the movie were just
deadly serious the whole time. Yeah, Christopher Nolan type shit. Yeah,
I just forgotten about that until watching this trailer. I
was like, oh, this is kind of like that. It's
like one of these sort of serious movies about you know,
like the social network or something like we're creating this
(15:03):
tech thing, but then some of them are just silly, right, Yeah,
So I mean, yeah, I'll go see it. The other
thing I was going to say is I think it's
a I'm guessing part of the reason why he wanted
to make it is because, and I didn't know this
before this, but the BlackBerry apparently was created in the kitchener, Ontario,
which is like just a little past Toronto, like not
(15:25):
too far from here, so so there's like a local connection. Yeah.
So uh yeah, I'm interested. But I'm like, you, like
I when I hear about these brand movies, my I
roll my eyes. But then I'm also like, I saw
that Tetris trailer. I was like, oh, this this is
what happened with Tetris. I guess I'll watch this. Yeah, absolutely.
(15:48):
I mean I kind of learned my lesson with the
Social Network where I was like, uh, this is gonna
be dog shit, it sucks, and then the Social Network
was pretty good. Everybody did Everyone thought it was a joke. Yeah,
it did make Mark Zuckerberg look both way cooler than
he is in reality and also terrible. Like but anyways,
(16:12):
let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back, and Aaron Rodgers is going to the Jets,
famously bad franchise. Do you follow American football at all, jam, No,
(16:35):
not really. I know who Aaron Rodgers is, but yeah, yeah,
I didn't know he was going to the Jets. Now
is that official or is that just like a rumor
he said that he's preparing to play for the Jets
or something like that. But it does seem like he
is the level of talented, like famous and also annoying
to work with that if he wants to do something
(16:58):
in the franchise that he's with, chooses not to do it,
then he will make it annoying enough that they'll just
like go ahead and do it. So I think it
seems like his current team, the team has been with
his whole career. The Packers are working on getting him there.
So we'll say, but for some reason, just like when
New York has interesting, compelling sports teams, I am more interested.
(17:21):
Like I was excited that the Knicks were mounting a
campaign to be a pretty serious team in the East
in the NBA, and this at least gets me excited
just because it's one of the big cities and they've
had a rough run for a while when it comes
to professional sports. And then just an update on something,
(17:42):
a story that we talked about a while back that
is now coming to fruition. So in this Vice article
says this week in news that is surely a sign
of a healthy functioning society. An elementary school in Alabama
has deployed a nation whiteboard mass shooting safe room, meeting room,
(18:04):
sensory deprivation chamber for overwhelmed students. And this is I
remember it was in the immediate aftermath of one of
the many mass shootings and just talking about how terrifying
it is to send my kids to school, and I
think a lot of parents for them to send their
kids to school and just know that that's a possibility.
(18:26):
And like this came up and I was like, this
is both like horrifying, Like it's just a horrifying sign
of like a dystopian, post apocalyptic society, and also like
I would want that in my kids classroom, assuming it works.
Because yeah, like just the idea of you know, being
(18:49):
in the position of those parents who are on the
outside of the police tape as you're just like waiting
for the results of a school shooting, you know, like
and there's nothing thing you can do, like is one
of the base nightmares that you have as a parent
in this country. And so um, yeah, both horrifying and
(19:09):
also like totally see why schools would It's also just
like the most American thing. Rather than like putting reasonable
restrictions on gun access, which would cut down on costs,
you just get rid of any restrictions on gun access,
but then also sell an additional product that can you know,
(19:32):
boost the economy. And but of course like that, there
are questions about like how to schools afford this when
there's no funding for schools, like Yeah, it's like you
can't even afford fucking school supplies. You can't afford paper
and shock. But yes, yeah, we'll put a bat cave
(19:52):
in your school, right. Yeah, so cool country, but it's
just so much work compared to you know, yeah, just
enacting reasonable kind of control laws. It's just regulations. We're
allergic to them, folks, or we've we've convinced ourselves we're
(20:12):
allergic to him. Anyways. Uh, some people think Tom Cruise
get the oscars because of Nicole Kidman, So there's that
that can't be right. I know it seems like bullshit,
but I feel like we see them together at events sometimes. No,
that's what I thought. But according to the Daily Mail,
(20:33):
jam oh come so exactly. Okay. I assumed it was
because there was the scientology joke and they were like, okay,
is he cool with us? And he was like, I
will not be there. They ran l Ron hubba hubba
past yes, and he had people they didn't take them
and he was he was out. Yeah. That was kind
(20:54):
of surprising that he wasn't there because he yeah, he
was supposed to be, I think, but I can't imagine
post and like I remember, like in the Cup, Like
the run up to it, people being like, and Tom
Cruise will be there and be like the center of
attention because he like saved movies this year with Top Gun. Yeah,
he was going to be like yeah, I heard some
(21:16):
people saying he was gonna be like the Nicholson of
the Oscars this year, like they're gonna put him front
and center kind of. Yeah, he didn't like the l
Ron hubbabba jokes, tell you that much. But they broke
up like twenty five years ago. Like yeah, and this
feels together. Yeah, this feels like a story that was
put out by Tom Cruise's team to like just you know,
smoke bomb like a bunch of confusion. He was probably
(21:40):
just like expunging theatins somewhere right something of or joining
a motorcycle off of a cliff. Yeah, for some reason,
that's what that was. The other Actually, so they my guests,
based on my very limited understanding of how these things work,
is that his team put this anonym sourced thing out
(22:01):
there then not anonymously shot it down. It was like,
actually he's off shooting Mission Impossible eight and there were
unforeseen scheduling conflicts and so it's just like it creates
a story that leads us off any semblance of like
what actually was going on, or they just realized that
people don't like seeing Tom Cruise. We like seeing Tom
(22:24):
Cruise movies where he's pretending to be someone doing something dangerous,
but like actually seeing Tom Cruise as himself out in
the world, I think it's probably less appealing and has
the potential to go off the rails. Like even when
he does things like I remember during the pandemic he
did that video where he just went to the movies.
(22:45):
He went to go see Tenant, Yeah, and strapped on
a Yeah. He's super intense and like even that was
like thirty seconds long and people were like that was weird,
Like and all was with him going to a movie. Yeah,
just does everything to the stream. Yeah, and he would
look like bane he had this like giant mask on
and it's like, oh, that's what That's the kind of
(23:06):
mask movie stars got. I'm just I have like a
piece of cotton. Yeah, Yeah, he had he had one
of the masks that like had the valves on it, Yeah,
which we I think had already learned at that point
that that was like good for protecting you, but like
you were just shedding virus like when you wore it.
But they were like, yeah, well that doesn't really factor
(23:28):
into what Tom Cruise wears on his face. Guys, They're like,
it's Tom Cruise. His people are like, I assume everyone
wanted to be sprayed by his essence. They sit for
two and a half hours in a room with him.
Did see him in person once. He is a glorious
specimen of humanity. He appears too just like hover off
the ground like a half inch at all times. It's
(23:49):
pretty crazy. That was just the lifts, oh right, right, yeah,
and he's like shoes light up and he rolls around
on them. Got unfamiliar with those kids shoes, Jam, thanks
so much for doing it. Where can people find you?
Follow you? You can find me on Twitter at Jam
McNab Again. All right, that's going to do it for
(24:12):
us this afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole
last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to
each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, don't
do nothing about white supremacy, and we'll talk to you
all tomorrow. Fight
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