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August 5, 2025 28 mins

In this edition of Trendro Pascal, Jack and special guest co-host Andrew Ti discuss Trump on a roof, the Copenhagen zoo asking people to donate their unwanted pets… as food, Elon Musk inspiring Hollywood (in the worst way possible), Grateful Dead fans getting icy off the nangs in SF and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Trendrow Pascal.
He's having a bit of a moment, that guy, am
I right, We'll see.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
The box office for Fantastic four was not. The second
week was a was a pretty major.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Drop off less than Fantastic It was. Yes, he was
only in four movies in theaters at the same time.
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I mean, yeah, he I guess he's having a moment,
but it's I think on the balance, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Saying such a account having a moment. I'm such an
industry shill.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I just want all movies to do well for at
least a little while, because.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I do too. I do bad. He's like on the
cover of magazines too, You seeing these magazines lah thin
books with glossy covers. Finn, what's with what?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
He?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
What? I mean? My name is Jacko Brown. That over
there is mister Andrew two. Also shout out to Vanadium
Silver who gave that one gave me Trendrow Pascal on
the discord also gave me timely review of each news Day,
which is a pointless acronym for Trent that I really appreciate.

(01:14):
It's just hard to put in the title you know,
because that like that it's long, so you wouldn't even
the title wouldn't have any of the news stories on it.
So that's why I didn't use it. But I do
appreciate you. I see what you did, Vanadium Silver, I
see it well done. All right, shall we get into
the trending news stories and god that we do on

(01:34):
this timely review of each ye we.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Could fuck around for like fifteen to eighteen minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
But we got it's been known to happen, we got
we got some heaters to get off our chest here
because the president was on the roof. This is this
is yeah crazy? Is it crazy? I don't know if
it's crazy. He seemed like he seems a little unh

(02:00):
unhinged right now, just like he is a little bit.
This was just like a weird energy. So I would
immediate if I got to be present, I'd immediately go
up there to for Willie Nelson's we'd plant you know.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It is like kind of one of the more relatable
things he's ever done. And I will say, there's video,
I mean definitely, I only saw stills from on Blue Sky.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Trump on the Trump on the roof, on the roof,
he didn't start dancing to Y m c A. But
he wasn't doing the y m c A. He was
while doing his like two dicks dance, you know he's doing.
Who was playing the music? I don't, I don't know.
It was like aified Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
So like the White House sound system.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
And then he's just up there with a photographer and
two secret Service agents who look like Jesus Christ with
this guy.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
The music means obviously there was significant staff involved in this, right,
you know, at least probably two three you know AV
that sort of folks assistance.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, so yeah, AV people just like running around preparing
rooms for him to enter so he can play my list,
play the mix.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I guess what I mean, though, is because when you
first hear Trump on the roof, you do think, you know,
he just wandered out there, and obviously, like upwards of
ten people had to be like, okay, we're doing this right.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
But they can't because he won't. He's not a person
who will like clear shit with people. You know. Okay,
But but I guess what I mean is like what
what I want?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I won't speak for you because I guess I'm about
to say something that might be technically a felony, but
like what I want is for like, you know, the
chief of staff to be like, wait, where the fuck
did he go? And then he's just up on the roof,
Like I want him to have wandered up on the roof.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Right without the Secret Service knowing, without anyone knowing. And
that's clearly not what happens. Some big man who's got
some big man. This is what I'd hoped, right. He
seems really happy about the Sydney swening news. We'll mentioned
this tomorrow, but like that, Yeah, see the fact that
she's a registered of Republican has really like sent him
into a new level. Are we surprised about this though?

(04:28):
For real, that she's a register Republican.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I know we talk about him more, but I don't really.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I'm not shocked. I don't know really at all.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, but you're like like, oh, I guess that's not
what I thought.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
But it's not surprising. I'm not blown away. His approval
is at a very you know, all time low, which
I know he does not choose to acknowledge. I'm not
sure if the bubble around him is so complete that
he's not aware of that, because this also be read
as like it's gotten to him. He's gone like Michael

(05:04):
Douglas falling down on our ass and is just like
kind of going going crazy. But my sense is just
he feels like he's the man. He's killing it. Yeah,
he's just doing stuff because he feels like it. I'm
seventy percent of people, so he's His net approval has
dropped to negative twenty six months into his term. His

(05:28):
approval rating on immigration fell nine points since April. People
were like, we like racism, but this this was a lie.
And seventy percent say he has not handled the Epstein
situation well. Seventy percent of people eighty one percent blame
him for hiding information on the case. Oh my god,

(05:50):
that's a lot of people. That's a big that's a
big sample. I know.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I guess it's like though, like it's it's such a
weird question because no one thinks he handled it well, right,
but no one really thinks he's.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Handled it poorly for the same reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Pretty much, because it's just like not handling it well
is so open that it's just like, well, yeah, but it's.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Ye, like ten percent of that seventy percent are people
who are like he hasn't executed all the pedophiles on
the White House lawn yet.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, yeah, so just like, yeah, I don't know, it's
it's just like it's a it's a meaningless statistic in
that regard, because it's not like there's a consensus about
what what handling well would entail.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I only covered in the context of does he know
this and is that why he's behaving weirdly? Of course,
but I think it might just be because he's an
eighty two year old narcissist who lost his mind a
long time ago.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Seventy percent don't think he's handled it well, but like,
I don't know, probably thirty five percent of those people
love him, yeah, yeah, and like so it's like who
cares like it's not like they dislike him.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Rare note of imperfection from exactly yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Or he's he's not going far enough because he's being
held back by the Democrats, that's.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Right, Yeah, but he's always the Democrats, because do you think,
do you.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I I did kind of want to push back a
little bit on the unhingedness of this because it was
this weird middle ground of.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Not unhinged enough but not normal enough either, right, Yeah,
maybe not unhinged. Maybe it just like seemed off and
I don't I don't necessarily know what about it. Like
the energy felt weird, like I just like his dancing.
It almost felt like he was doing too much for

(07:45):
a like photographer, you know what I mean. Like it
was it was like he was trying too hard to
like give fun energy to a photographer who he like
had a crush on or something, because he was just
like overdoing it a lot. It's like any one it's
like anytime.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
We probably see this more in LA but I'm sure
people see this all of the globe now. Every time
you see an influencer or a TikTok person out in
the wild doing their thing.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's like they look like a fucking lunatic. Yes, exactly,
That's what it felt like. It felt like a it
felt like a post from influencers in the wild. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, or when you see like not through their lens,
but you see it with your eyes, like what the
actual like production of.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Them looks like.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Because it's just like he's not being big enough for
a crazy situation. He's doing a crazy thing, but he's
doing it like relatively like you know, like like he's
sleepy athlete rally.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah right, it's like kind of on his feet. I
guess all right, we do have to move on to
this zoo in Copenhagen that made a Facebook post soliciting
unwanted small pets. If you have a healthy animal that
now I'm not even gonna try, animal that needs to
be given away for various reasons, feel free to donate

(08:59):
it to us. That way, nothing goes to waste, and
we ensure natural behavior, nutrition and well being of our predators.
Oh my god, got a little nissent liam Neesani at
the end. This is this sounded a lot cooler than
it actually is because they're not they are youthanizing the

(09:22):
animals before. They're like, it's not a thing where they're
like because the fact that they mentioned natural behavior made
me think they're gonna hunt your Yeah, they're gonna hunt
your Dalmatian that you got because your kids thought that
they would be like the ones in one hundred and
one Dalmatian. They're gonna like, we're gonna let it loose

(09:42):
on the savannah section of our zoo. U. No, they're
not doing that because I guess apparently that would be
inhumane and uh so they're they're just euthanizing the animal
in a humane way and then feeding them. Uh but
it these fuckers, it is wild. I got to feed

(10:02):
the lions and people have pets that they're annoyed by.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Can this possibly be because okay, here's my question. Is
this not potentially the practice of every zoo with large carnivores.
It's just isn't made public?

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right? You think that that's where like people whose dogs
get like all those like posts of animals like on
telephone poles. I just no, no, not that.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
But I do think like when when you know, hats
get euthanized, they go somewhere that's right, And it's not
like it seems to me not like totally out of
a question that they would go to feed large predators large.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, the lions are hungry and your pet is, but
it does seem like they want only healthy animals. They're
not like interested, sure, like the lions are like, uh
this this dogad right or something? I mean, yet it's

(11:04):
not based on cuteness. Yeah, lion's not like I really
want to eat something adorable.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
I did really quick google Danish Michelin star restaurants because
that place, that place Noma is in Copenhagen, right like that,
that's super. So my thought was, of course that you
know this is this is maybe just for a special
lion day, and they're going to do like a real
like fancy like Tweezers preparation of your gerbil.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
For the lion.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
You know, you know one everyone's got to eat, but
sometimes people got to eat, you know, in the finest
dining possible.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I wonder if there's anybody who's like, I will donate
my gerbil, but I need the video. I need to
I need to see that thing get gobbled down.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Right, And their response would have to be like, all right,
obviously a gerbil is not enough calories for a lion,
and so.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Weared up.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
They're like, how many gerbils co do you got? Because
there's some number of gerbils you can provide them that.
They're like, you need a whole bag.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Anyways, shout out to gerbils. We obviously don't want to
see any animals harmed. But I just think it's interesting
that the zoo was like, hey, yeah, you don't want
to see you follow a zoo on Facebook, Jack.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Let me throw this bit back at you, though, like
carnivores are carnivores. When you have a lion that exists,
someone has to harm an animal to feed it, someone
who's going to get several animals, yeah, or else you're
harming it, right, I'm like, I'm like, if there was
like a libertarian character in the lion case.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I know you were actually really good on Rogan the
other day. I will say thank you. Yeah, it was
a great appear. Let's take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back. We're back. Lands are hungry.

(13:08):
Just remember that Elon Musk. So we talked yesterday about
how we hadn't seen Naked Gun, but we were hearing
really good things. Yes, notably from Brian the editor. Yes,
saw it, loved it. You have now seen it. Yes,
I saw it, enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was trying to I was trying to remember in
the k FAE of our recording schedule.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Can I say I've seen it because it was in
between in between this morning's episode. So you saw it
at lunch over.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Lunch, Okay, I watched Yeah, I definitely watch it over
lunch holding a copy of today's newspaper and it's it's
genuinely really good. It's like, I mean, I guess what
it is though, is it's the type of comedy that
is almost exclusively on streaming and TV, and so the

(14:01):
fact that it's in a movie theater is pretty amazing.
It's really funny. There's just a lot of really good jokes.
Apparently it travels well internationally, which I was finding hard
to believe a little bit, but that's one of the
things i'd heard.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
It seems action based, right, so it's like two action.
I mean, I think that's that's the.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Tricky producer Brian saying it worked well in Mexico makes sense.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I guess. I'm just like some of the puns, I'm
just like, does that work?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I think the line that's tricky for them is like
it has to be action based enough to justify it
being in a movie theater with a movie theater budget,
or at least that's I believe what the studios.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Believe, right, Yeah, yeah, okay, yes, they're there to laugh.
What is the three million dollar shot?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, exactly if we're going to ask people for ticket money,
which I don't necessarily agree with, but I do understand.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay, So the reason it fits into ours likest other
than that doing well at just Shatter. We love to
see comedies. Oh see it, it's really fun. It is
one of two movies, two big like new movies opening
last weekend. They essentially have the same villain, and that
villain is Elon Musk. Yes, so the villain of Naked
Gun is a tech billionaire obsessed with self driving cars

(15:18):
and men's sperm counts. And then also Bad Guys Too,
the animated movie apparently has a tech billionaire with a
private space exploration company called moon X that apparently the
writer or like one of the people behind Bad Guys Too,

(15:40):
was like, we wrote this in twenty twenty two when
he was like the Tesla guy who was trying to
buy Twitter, not the Trump guy dismantling America's safety net
and doing literal Heyle Hitler's also earlier in the summer,
we got a Superman movie with apparently a very Elon

(16:01):
coded lex luthor.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I'd say, yeah, in that he's like like a tech
kind of he's like a tech narcissist.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Victor pointed out Mickey seventeen
had a like Trump slash Elon villain. The what a
glass Onion had a tech billionaire. Filmmaker Ryan Johnson was like,
I had to fight myself to make it less like Elon.
The first Venom movie apparently had an Elon Musk, which
is a he's fallen a long distance from iron Man two.

(16:32):
Like I hadn't remember this, but I ran. Jam points
out that iron Man two came out in twenty ten.
First of all, like Iron Man, I remember, like the
first time I found out about Elon Musk, people were like,
he's like the real world Tony Stark. And then in
Iron Man two, like Robert Downey Jr. Meets Elon mus
at a party. He's yeah, at a party in Monaco,

(16:53):
and Robert Downey Junior compliments him, like he's like, you're
I'm really impressed by SpaceX's Merdlin engines. Like they were
doing literal product placement for Elon Musk in the Ironman
franchise fifteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I mean, there's like Star Trek episodes from the time
where they like talk about how one of the innovators
of you know, one of the intermediary steps of getting
to Star Trek technology was Elon.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Like it's pathetic, it's amazing, it sucks yeah, it looks
terrible in retrospect. That is great that he's fallen that far.
I will say that on.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
The back of his own tweets, not all, but like
largely on the back of his own tweets. His like
talking well like extemporaneously showed everyone that he was an evil,
idiotic Nazi.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah. The problem is for me is that you can't
have your villain be as uncool and devoid of charisma
as Elon Musk is. Like the villain is like fun,
like yeah, they're like hate heable in a fun way.
Like that's where you actually get to do cool stuff

(18:05):
is with the villain character, because like in a lot
of Hollywood movies, the hero character like can't be that fun,
Like yeah, at their core, they need to be like
sort of a neutral mask, like empty void that anybody
can like pour themselves into. And so he is just
getting like his sort of sociopathy and like lack of

(18:26):
charisma and just like pure predatory like calculations as like
just laundered out of him by these movies who are like,
you know, it's kind of similar to the like you know,
the Social Network. It's you know, even though Mark Zuckerberg
is the villain of that movie. He's also like pretty
compelling to watch. It's the protagonist.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, we have a big anti hero problem in media,
like we're just not good. No, sorry, I don't want
to say these people who create these things are not good.
I will say that I do think the problem of
anti heroes is sort of intractable and impossible, and it
is that people, the people you want to reach, do
not understand parody, and it creates this situation like again,

(19:12):
the worst people. I've said this on this show too
many times, but if you ask the people who needed
to hear it, most didn't understand that they weren't supposed
to be like Don Draper or Tony Soprano or Walter
White or whatever.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
So it's just a really difficult problem.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
The other thing that's like really like tough I think
for these guys is or sorry for all the examples
you just mentioned about Elon Musk coded villains, is that
because of Hollywood and like the like they have to
stand off what you both said about like the interesting.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Things about Elon but also the badness.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Like here's the thing, Like Elon isn't bad because he's
a narcissist. I mean it's part of it. But he's
bad because he's a fucking Nazi. Yes, like it's a
little bit. I mean again, I I don't mean this
as a criticism, mainly because I would.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Love to work more.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
But like one of my problems with The Colbert Report
when it was on was it was a parody of
Bill O'Reilly, but because of it being you know, him
being the protagonist, he couldn't actually parody the actual terrible
things about Bill O'Reilly, his like unbelievable sex as.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
A racist winning Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, So it was just a really tough situation for
satire to be in, and that was what always like
sort of frustrated me. And again, I'm not saying these
people were bad at their jobs. I'm just saying the problem.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Was, like, so, how you make a good movie that
people want to watch or a TV show?

Speaker 2 (20:41):
You know, it's hard because you're you're like, well, this
is Elon Musk esque.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah, Like you know, one of the things that's.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
So like interesting about like like Alex Luthor and the
New Superman is it's really telling how unbelievably diverse his
employee Core is is like goon, right, and that's like
good for culture to give like you know, this sort
of vague sense of representation and have like people of

(21:09):
all types represented in all kinds of roles.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
But the reality is it's like Silicon.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Valley is like overwhelmingly like male, white and Asian. Yeah,
and like they're all these fucking horrible people doing these
horrible things. Are not a diverse group, no, And so
it's like this thing where I'm like I don't know,
I don't know like how real you're supposed to make it,
but it to me has trouble landing because it's like,

(21:35):
you know, Lex Luthor is cooler than Elon Musk in
so many ways.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Like Elon Musk just his his company just gave him
twenty nine billion dollars in Tesla stock, like as like
a good faith gesture twenty nine billion dollars. Like that's
so boring. It's like something that like like getting your
company to like give yourself twenty nine billion dollars is

(22:01):
just so like you could never have a character do
that because it would be so fucking boring, you know.
It's just like so so you have to like import
all this like gravitas and charism. Yeah, and yeah, like
evil as humor you can't have a movie villain who
like is not funny unless it's in a comedy like

(22:21):
the one place he makes it as like a cringe comedy.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Right, yeah, he's so corny and unfunny. But I mean, look,
even the fucking I don't even know the name of
the actor I should who plays the tech guy in
Naked Gun is just funnier. Like it's just little things
like timing, like basic charisma.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Weird things. Yeah, all right, we do have to move
on because there wasn't a Grateful Dead concert at Golden
Gate Park this weekend, and people were selling ice cold
fatties aka balloons full of nitrous oxide to you know,
one another, one balloon twenty dollars, thirty dollars. The grossest

(23:02):
part of the article, so this is in I think
the kron the San Francisco Chronicle, or no San Francisco Gate.
I'll just read this part directly. Vendors outside concerts are
often known to pick up used balloons off the ground,
so experienced fans will often bring their own, with one
vendor overheard during the weekend saying that quote the same
balloon could have been used by twenty people over thirteen states, Oh, anyways,

(23:28):
it's like this is news because somebody actually got busted
for distributing it, even though it's like hard to prosecute, you.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Know, and busted for distributing nitrous oxide. Motherfucking I believe this.
Fourteen year old Andrew teh got I got actually arrested
in an arb of Michigan when I was fourteen because
I was selling whippets, not selling I was.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I was giving people whippets because.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
That's the second part of my Unless there's been some
major inflation in nitrous oxide market, twenty dollars for a
balloon is fucking criminal.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's too expensive. I think that's a ten x markup.
Oh wow, Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. Grateful dead fans
are like the easiest people now, I know, but I'm
just like, just go to the fucking store. Jesus Christ,
you guys. But you can just like buy it at
the store.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, yeah, like like high end food stores. You can
get the little cartridges.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Brandon the editor says box of naws is twenty dollars
and asked if Andrew was getting icy off the nangs.
I definitely was. That's wild that you got you got.
I got a rest I could just be doing it.
I don't know why. I couldn't tell the whole story.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
But I got arrest because I grew up in Annarbor, Michigan,
which is like, as far as drug laws goes very lax.
I remember the cop as she was arresting me, literally
going do you have any weed on you? And then
under her when I said no, under her breath, She's like, shit, well,
if he had weed, we could have just given him
a ticket. Now we have to bring them in.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So they took me this is for all the sports
fans out there, to the police precinct underneath Michigan Stadium,
the big house.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Right where they just like take the drunk people at football. Yeah,
like drugs.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I was on university property, but because I was fourteen,
I think I ended up having to write an essay
about the danger of inhalance to avoid anything going on
my record. But I also think the right I kind
of did. I have not really done nitrous since then.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I don't think it's become very popular. The one thing,
the one thing I like about this news story is
just it's the most conspicuous drug. Yeah, and it's truly
like you're walking around and the drug you're using is
like the thing that goes over a player's head and
sims like it's just a big, big green like circle

(25:55):
or hovers over your head.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I should say the markup does depend on how how big.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Those balloons are. There are some ice cold faties.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I mean, what a great time to learn about the
gas laws, you know, and TV NRT. As the volume expands,
the temperature must go down.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Is that what it is? Is that why they escaping?

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Gas is cold like like anytime you crack like a
small gas container and it gets much bigger the volume
it gets higher. Pressure is the same because we're still
on Earth, and I think n R are some constants,
so temperature must go down.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Damn. There you go. You learned a lot. You were
you were bringing some intelligence to your drug. This is
eighth grade chemistry physics. I don't remember. Yeah, I checked
out about seventh. We're glad you got out. Anybody who
says that icy nangs will kill your brain cells, I

(26:55):
show you exhibit A what Andrew just said about the volume. Andrew,
thank you so much for guest hosting the past a
couple of days. Thanks for having me. Where can people
find you? Follow you? Yo, this is racist. I don't know
blues people.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Every time I'm on the show, I feel like I
get an uptick of Instagram followers. I guess Instagram, Andrew,
it doesn't really matter. I don't really post how much
an analyst places.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, go watch Naked Gun. I genuinely enjoyed it. I
can't wait. Yeah, that's gonna do it for us this
Tuesday afternoon. We were back tomorrow with the whole last
episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other,
be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines where you still
can get your flu shots, don't do nothing about white supremacy,
and we will talk to you all tomorrow. Why The

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