December 4, 2025 • 30 mins
In this edition of TrendsUp, Jack and Miles discuss the Jan 6th pipe bomb suspect, Zillow obfuscating climate related metrics on their house listings, Detroit's new RoboCop statue, Trump's "affordability hoax", Costco suing over Trump's tarriffs, more details on Olivia Nuzzi's new book and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of transa
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the discord, who said as a Budweiser frog and then
gave me trends A.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
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It?
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combine combining of two separate Bubbweizer ads in their minds.
Either way, it's fine. You did great first Blood five
twenty two. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there
as Miles Gray. It is, uh, Miles, You've been on
a bit of a bit of a run finding good
Instagram clips to you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
You know, you work in the industry, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm forty one dude, So like Instagram reach out to
you directly?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Are they like sending these videos to you directly? That's crazy, man,
They're emailing you.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Just find these on your own through the algorithm.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm just like scrolling, dude, These like sick ass videos
shows deep scrolling, scroll and scrolling. O.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, this is the episode where we'll tell you
what's trending. On this Thursday, December fourth, we got an
arrest in January sixth pipe bombing. Wow, I remember that
this is a blast from the past, last in the
freaking past.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I didn't remember that there.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I do remember now that there's a detail that like
somebody had planted pipe bombs all over the place.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, in front of the Republican and Democratic Party headquarters
the night before January sixth, twenty twenty one, twenty two one.
Like so at the time, I don't know if you remember,
you were like, it's Marjorie Tayler Green, if you were
saying this all kinds of weird shit, people doing half
assed gait analysis on the suspect. The thing was like,
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like earlier, there was a woman who got caught up
in this investigation who I believe like worked for at
the Capitol, like doing like a capital officer, but she
became like a suspect because like the dubious analysis from
like the Blaze media, Glenn Beck's outlet, and then Pulsi
Gabbard willing to take that as the truth.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So that was a bit of a weird hiccup there.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
That woman was cleared, thank god, because she had nothing
to do with it aside from someone I'm like, you know,
the Blaze being like it's got to be this person.
But now I guess this is the person again, I
don't know if I have faith we.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Have any information on who it is or they're just
like they did give it. They did give the name
some dude from Virginia.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Ladies and gentlemen we got we got.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Him play the crab rave music. The I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I mean, like it's Cash Betel's FBI, so it could
be fucking andy. They might just be like, bro, we
need to fucking win. So just getting somebody to wait supremacist.
But what ye are the possible motive? Like I get,
I guess the Blaze wanted it to be this sort
of this woman because it would suggest that it was
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like an inside job by the mainstream Democrats.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is that the idea.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Or just that you can't trust anyone who even works
for Capitol Police?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Like who are the enemies? You know?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Recontextualizing, there was only one side of the aisle that
knew that some shit was going to go down on
January sixth, right like it was.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was not like that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
That was kind of a Trump said come here, it's
going to go down, and then people came there and
had plans for like launching the overthrow of the government
and hanging Mike Pence. So it does seem like I'd
be highly suspicious if this person is not somehow like
plugged into that world. If they're just like, no, it
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was actually Antifa or like the pure anarchist.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Other people do love planning bombs, I will say, but
to the early twentieth century.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think the one the one dimension of it is
apparently like the FBI just sort of picked up the
work that was being done in twenty twenty one and
twenty twenty two, so it might not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Be like, look what we did.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
They're like, oh yeah, yeah, let's let's let's follow sudden lyds.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I have no idea like where this is gonna lead.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But again, uh, the headline is January sixth, Pipe bomber
arrest it so hey, that headline makes it look like
the FBI is functioning, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They're fucking doing shit. They're putting him work out here,
and it wasn't. Marjorie Taylor Greed the person from No No,
some dude, let's talk about let's talk about real estate,
something we don't cover off on this show.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, how's your portfolio looking, man, I've got just
closed on a fucking forty three unit building.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
These tenants, I mean, we talk about this a lot
of off. Mike, my fucking tenants. Oh my god, they're
so selfish.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
After another person talk about, you know, how, how they
shouldn't be evicted because it's.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Some Look, everybody's gonna I got fucking bills.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Why do you think I'm asking you to pay my
fucking rent? But yeah, the real estate is an interesting thing,
particularly for me as somebody who used to live in
used to own a home that burned down in a fire.
That's right, Yeah, I really wish it was manly god.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
One more, yeah, mass shooting exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So if you've been on like websites like Zillo or
red fin, you probably notice that there's like a section
along with like square footage or other relevant details about
a home, there's also like data about like air quality
or like fires or floods. Shut up another climate related
liability on the zone.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh my god, of my get the Oh so they're
printing fake news on Zillo and Redfin. Wow, that's not
what I come to those places.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, I come to see how much my grandma's house
is worth, so when she finally kicks it, I can flip.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It for fucking Lambeau money.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
So apparently now Zillo has just removed that information because
I guess a bunch of real estate agents were complaining zis.
Zillo has now deleted this climate index after complaints from
real estate agents and some homeowners that the rankings appeared arbitrary,
could not be challenged, and harmed house sales.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
The complaints included those from the California anyways.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Blah Blah blah Zilla said it remains committed to help
Americans make informed decisions about properties, which listings now contain
outbound links to the website of First Street, which is
the nonprofit climate risk quantifier that used to put the
data there. So like, oh, we're still linking off to
We just don't want to put bummer shit on it.
So like affects your decision to buy a house in
this overinflated housing market where nothing is affordable.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
People like have argued the data is actually.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Like undermining confidence in climate science by giving like broad
analysis about risk on a specific plot of land. But
I think overall this information is relevant. I think the
larger part of it, I don't. I don't think people
are saying, oh my god, people are don't believe in
climate change because of the Zillow listings. That's a I
think a bridge too far. But I do think it
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is important. I think for anyone you know, like you're
looking again, I was living in a place that just
got skull fucked by a wildfire, and it was in there,
and I even looked at the maps I remember in
the beginning before we moved in that like showed my
place was like on the brink of like the dangers
of dangers like a fire. And most people were like,
it would take something like truly horrific for it going
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into like an urban basin like that, And I'm like, Okay,
I think.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They're making a face like they're doing the jack off
hand motion. It would take something truly just like once
in a generation or once every seven years.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now the climate a few years.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I'll tell you who does have access to this
information is insurance companies. So if you're making a big
per just you should probably check it out.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Is probably a good idea, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Because also too, like you don't want to know you're
in a flood risk area, and then like do I
need flood insurance or whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Trust me, uh as somebody who's underinsured. Shit, bro to
keep your wits about you. But I think the big
deal here is that the heart the housing market is
just so fucked up and unaffordable that I think this
data is just more prominent.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The industry is like, what do we do? It's like,
it can't it can't be the unaffordability of it all.
It has to be that someone's being pulled. They live
in a place with bad air quality Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
The yeah, they're like this is what people do for fun.
This is like there their wish casting. They're just like
looking at houses and being like, man, could you imagine?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So don't fucking bum them out? Yeah yeah, the message God.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Just I don't know if the affordability I think it's
the I don't think it's I think it's the it's
the market itself.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's not the fucking zi little Ah.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Put that on like page seven, you know, not page one.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We don't want to see that up front. We don't
want to bum them out.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, anyway, like I said, I'm doing great.
Like I said, just close on a forty three unit
building that's right about to kick everybody the fuck out, man.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And I don't have to pay insurance, so you know, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, you got.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You should see the fucking contracts that make these people sign.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
The ret hikes are fucking baked into the legal contract
they signed.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It does remind me of how the Trump administration, like
various corporations were like, and now that our prices are
going to go way up because of tariffs, we're gonna
start listing that in the prices and then that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Got hit camned. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, exactly how corporations are allowed to present information is
going to be interesting. Yeah, I mean again, less and
less profitable. Yeah, to tell people the truth.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I just don't. I don't know. I don't know
what the solution is.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I certainly don't trust the Republican Party to figure out
what the solution is.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I think that was in crisis. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk
about RoboCop.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Detroit has finally honored its greatest resident.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
An eleven foot tall bronze statue of RoboCop. You don't
know who's in the RoboCop gear. I mean, you assume
it's Peter Weller, but it could be Eminem.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I'm going to say it's j Dilla. That's my Detroit person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's like there the art.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Basically, people were like, well, could we not fund this
with taxpayer money since Detroit is the poorest city with
over five hundred thousand people and like, I think over
half the population lives under the poverty line. Uh, and
so they It ended up being a big debate. On
the one side, it was people being like, dude, Philadelphia
(10:58):
has Rocky, why don't like this is our Rocky, let's
do RoboCop statue. And on the other side of these
people being like, I don't know, maybe they could take
that money and fund food banks for all the very
hungry people in our rocket.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He's kind of like an underdog story if I remember,
And this is about a fucking robot cop.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
In a dystopian police state. Yeah yeah, Like how much
of this is people just being like that movie ripped
and how much of it is people being like this
would be the answer if we could just get Elon
Musk to release it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
No idea, I mean, like I get it, like RoboCop iconic.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Sure, Detroit, great.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But like you said, you might have bigger problems in
figuring out how to honor a robot cop.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah. Movie.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
He also was sick in that KFC campaign. Did you
ever see that ad?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No? I saw the image of it, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The kernel is just at a at a banquet style
southern and like it looks like a dinner from Django unchained,
but the kernel is in a robocopsuit. And somebody says,
how do you like make it taste so good? And
he says, if I told you, I would have to
kill you, And everyone gets real quiet, and then he
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starts going ha ha ha ha, and then everybody starts laughing.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's very very strange. Stops laughing. Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, And then he stops laughing and gives a very
serious look to the camera like I'll fucking kill you
if you try.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And special recipe? How much?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
How much did it cost? Sixty seven thousand dollars? Jesus
eleven feet tall, Miles, it's eleven feet tall. It's bronze.
He's kind of thick, like they kind of gave him
real thick legs. I don't remember his legs are off
to me, do you see what I'm saying, Like it
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almost looks like he's a child that was placed into
the RoboCop suit, Like they're like two high on his
hips or something.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They should have had you come in to consult on this.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'm just saying, Man, it would have humiliated themselves with
this awful robot statue.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But anyways, like the statue was finished in twenty seventeen,
but nobody wanted, Like at first it was gonna be
in front of the Michigan Science Center, which that one
actually makes sense to me because it's like, Okay, you
want to like bring kids to the Science Center, and
I guess dystopium robotic killing machines are kind of science.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Y, sick carceral technologies.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, I got to get them pointed in that direction,
but it ended up being in the Eastern Market area
outside the Free Age Video Production Studio, which also I
guess seems seems appropriate. At one point after they completed
the statue, but like when they couldn't find a place
to put it, the mayor of Stevens Point, Wisconsin, a
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birthplace of actor Peter Weller, tried to take the statue
off Detroit's hands, and then there was like a feud
where they were like, no, fuck you, and he's like,
fuck you, I'm gonna And then like when they wouldn't
give it to him, he's like, I'm going to three
D print a Robocops statue that will be twelve feet tall.
Oh hold that destroys up.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Wow, pay attention to the people that fucking need help.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean, like, honestly, I wouldn't give a.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Shit about a Robocops statue, but like in the context
of just municipal funds being spent in the dumbest ways,
like yeah, get the fuck.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Out of here, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So eventually they it was crowdfunded because because of that,
and then there is okay, I will say like there
might have been an overall net gain because of this,
because one online argument about the idea of like funding
a Robocops statue, it was like a Hollywood screenwriter and
a comic book artist, and they ended up founding a
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robo charity which encouraged RoboCop fans to donate money to
the Forgotten Harvest Food Bank. So they were like, hey,
if you think this is a good idea, maybe maybe
they can help the people of Detroit. I would call
it robo charity.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Huh oh yeah, yeah, go.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
On, wait a second, and I think there is like
eight thousand dollars. So uh all right, let's take a
quick break.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We're back, And just another update on the hoax that
Donald Trump identified aka affordability. Yeah, that's what is that.
That doesn't mean anything. That nobody even knows what you're
talking about. That's just a thing that you guys say
to me. The people who I surround myself with, yes men,
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they never about affordability.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's something that left came up with.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The yes men and billionaires that I surround myself with
at my private golf club never never use that word.
So it's not real. It's just you weirdos in the media.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
There was just a political poll that shows that even
his voters are starting to blame him.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's not good. That's probably not good.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, like, the whole thing with just yelling a
hoax that someone's lived experience is that it only serves
to sue the feelings of the person yelling hoax, because meanwhile,
reality ticks on in this case, the affordability crisis. But
I think, like to your point, now that that polling
has come out and his own voters are like, uh yeah,
(16:40):
I think wait, so Trump's the president.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And the Republicans of this and in the House and
the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, I actually I think, yeah, this, I think this
is Trump's fault now. So now they have basically taken
that affordability whistle stop tour that they were teasing last
month and kicking it into high gear now. But the
plans the same, go to battleground states. I think it's
kicking off in Pennsylvania next week and just say shit,
like I did all this shit for the economy already
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that you aren't giving me credit for what fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And it is working. It's working.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's there is some small improvements we can make, but
it is working, and you actually aren't experiencing, uh what
you think you're experiencing.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
This is to be fair.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Also, the strategy that was employed to great effect by
the Biden administration. Yep, when people are like talking about
why the fuck is everything so expensive? What's your fucking problem?
And he was like, what are you? We got the
best economy of all time.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Look at the line Jack, it's going up. Yeah, what
the heck? You guys are batterier than a bat or something.
I gotta I gotta lay down. It's slow up top,
it's slow up low baby.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah yeah, it ain't turn it as quickly as it
used to. Uh, this is from an axios right up.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
White House aid c Trump as a Republican party's best
salesman and it's best chance to reverse falling poll numbers
for both the president and his party.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I feel like they're working with old data there, like
he was the best salesman during the campaign, that when
he could just be like, I'm actually gonna fix it
on day one if I feel like it, Yeah, I'll
probably do.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
That on the sidelines, I believe is what they called.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Since that time, his name has become associated with basically
the Epstein files and saying affordability as a hoax while
people starve.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And also starving people intentionally by like cutting like snap
funds and basically doing everything you can usterity measures.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just handling the government.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But the article goes on saying, but it's privately acknowledged
that there's more to be done to address cost of
living concerns no shit dot com, slash are you fucking
for real? Dot html and say that on this trip,
Trump will also preview upcoming plans. Oh what are those up?
Western music gift card on every dining table.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I can't wait to see what these are. These are
gonna be good ones.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, look, he's right now, he's floated checks for
tariff checks or something, and they can do that.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
But that's a good to start.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
There's no support like that has to be happened in Congress,
and the House is already like, no, fuck you talking
about you?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
How much money? That is? Like we're we're like, we
have no we have to the austerity guys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And then fifty year mortgages was the other one where
it's like, well then it'll make your payment lord. It's
like yeah, and you'll never pay your home off because
of interest accruing for.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Fifty fucking years. What are you saying?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I don't know. I'm sure it's gonna be some.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's probably gonna be a mix of a half truth
that mate might be able to happen, but sounds just
believable enough that people might think differently, although I doubt it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, it doesn't seem likely, all right, Costco is suing
over the tariffs. Did the Supreme Court like say the
tariffs were or like some court was like these are not.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, well they're there right now.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
The Supreme Court did hear arguments last month, like in November,
because they are challenging Trump's authority to They still haven't
made a decision on that, but that hasn't stopped companies
like Costco filing a filing a lawsuit in the US
Court of International Trade because what they're doing is like, well,
if the Supreme Court still deliberating, and if they say
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this shit is is illegal or you know that wasn't
supposed to be implemented in the first place, then run
me my fucking refund for all these fucking tariffs I
just paid. And other companies are basically, I think, also
filing lawsuits to sort of get a place in line
as it is to be like, well, bro, I was
here suing before anybody, so you better get run me
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my tariff money back.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And now this has led to like a bunch of MAGA.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Influencers and people on the internet saying shit like fucking
Costco's treason is for trying to go against fucking the
tariffs and things like that. One guy posted bye bye
Costco after doubling down on nonsensical DEI social justice practices.
Costco is doing Trump administration for full refunds of the
president's tariffs. If you didn't have a reason to sell
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your Costco stock and cancel your memberships before you do,
now refuse to fund their attack on what the people
voted for.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
No, no, no, no, you didn't vote for this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I bet that guy has like so many up votes
and everybody's gonna start doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And Costco.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
There's a lot of people quote unquote canceling there, but like, sure.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, remember how well that worked with like Nike when
curate Wolvo.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I think Costco is in a very interesting position because
of all the companies like they're trying to do something
somewhat like keep their prices stable ish you don't want
to charge more for like their hot dogs, like certain
things like the CEO is like, bro, I can't We're
not we have to have some floor here or like
a ceiling here for like what our fucking hot dog
will cost, And a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Of people like, please don't fuck up.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean, obviously prices have gone up and down. All
that to say is the DEI outrage mob could have
jumped ship. Like how these people are referencing, will they
go to a woke Like when Costco full throated came
out it said, diversity is like fucking really good when
you want to sell shit to people, Just so you know,
that's our philosophy.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, which is a note that target missed. And now
like they're basically in opposite situations.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
M M. I mean this does like when it comes
to the Supreme Court, the idea of Costco bringing a
case against the Trump administration does make me like that
that is the one legally protected group in the United
States is like massive corporations that make a shitload of money.
You know, Yeah, I do feel like they can go
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up against Like granted we can't always or usually trust
them to do the right thing, but this does feel
like something that if I was in the Trump administration,
I probably be a little bit worried about. Yeah, but
I think at the end, I mean, at the end
of the day, there the mentality of this administration has
been like We're just going to bring corporations to heal
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with whatever tactics we want.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
To use.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean, we've seen that with the tech industry, although
part of that is very much beneficial for their you know,
fake AI industry at the moment. But you know what,
good luck to those people canceling. You know, hopefully you'll
send them a message. But Costco did report eight point
one percent sales growth in November.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So yay, that's our good that's the corporation that we
root for.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Those are the good guys, corporation Pokemon.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I choose you, and I just wanted to touch on
this Olivia Uzzy, but because I've read little excerpts from
so this is the woman who had the affair with RFK.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Did she have an affair? It was like digital affair?
What's it? Was?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Apparently an emotional affair according to her, and then her
ex seems to dispute that it was the one that
gave us rfks weird like sex poetry where it's like
I'm gonna push your cheeks together until your mouth opens
and then run through you like water run through a canyon.
(24:15):
I forget exactly what it was. It sounded like waterboarding.
But there are First of all, so she released this
book that is the memoir of like her experience over
the last year of like having her relationship with Ryan
Lizza fall apart in the aftermath of the RFK thing.
(24:36):
But she kind of became a cause celeb, like in
the mainstream media because you know, there's a lot of
attention around her and it is an interesting story, and
she had this memoir coming out about this, and she's.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, a writer that people liked.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And the memoir came out and it, at least with
regards to critics, it bricked. They are like, this is
not good. So, like Vanity Fair had already made her
the Vanity Fair West Coast editor, and the book came
out and they were immediately like, we're going to have
(25:13):
a conversation on our end about what to do here.
Like we were like, oh, this is such a good
So we were under the impression that this book was
going to be good.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
New York Times called it aggressively awful and regrettably self serious,
pointing out that it's not even much of a tell
all because she doesn't name many of the people involved,
Like she just calls RFK Junior the politician, and so
you have to like google to like figure out who
just to like make guesses as like who these people are,
but there's also like it's worth reading some of the
(25:47):
some of the excerpts, and I just want to read
this one to you. It's about a trip to the
WWE Hall of Fame that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You wanted to take. She is she a big wrestling fan.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't know, man, uh, she said, there is always
something new to consider, or something to consider in a
new way. In that spirit, I called WWE headquarters. Sorry,
not possible. The receptionist said, not possible. I asked visiting
would be impossible?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
She said.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
My eyes narrowed. I looked out the window of my
newsroom and the Frank Gary building on the Hudson River
that looked like a big block of glacier ice. I
did not like to be trapped any place, even somewhere
I considered architecturally defensible, and I had wanted to escape today.
Had been counting on this opportunity to escape. The news
of the impossibility of a visit to the Hall of
(26:37):
Fame depressed me. It's private, I asked, there's no place
to visit. The receptionist said, no place. I asked, right,
She said it moved, I asked, no, it's you know,
an idea. She said, an idea, the Hall of She
cut in, no hall. There's no hall. She said, then
(26:57):
what is it? I asked, it's an idea, she said,
an idea. She had mentioned that already. It doesn't exist.
I asked, well it exists, she said where. I asked,
as an idea? She said, it was a place only
in imagination.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Oh my god, she like right, that was fucking awful
and humiliating.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So it's so humiliate like every segment, like I just
found out about Jay our writer Jay, I'm put this
one in, but I had, like the guys on Chopo
Traphouse like read an excerpt from it and it's all
this shit where it's like pseudo literary, but like she's
not saying anything, yeah, and it's like she just like
tries to literature up these just like nonsense things where like, yeah,
(27:46):
that's the thing. People know that the WWE Hall of
Fame is actually like not a place. They haven't like
created the place yet, and so it's just like a
thing that where they nominate people and it becomes a
news hook. But they're cheap and so they didn't like
actually go through the process of building for yeah. Yeah,
exactly like to treat that piece of information as this
(28:07):
like fucking literary wanna be who's on first thing that
ends with it was a place only in imagination? Like
it there's something profound about it instead of just like
you know, summarizing it in a sentence like I just did,
just seems.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
So condensed that whole page into I mistakenly thought the
w W Hall of Fame was a physical place, but
when I called it was revealed to me that it's
merely just referencing the concept of a hall of fame
where the greats are, you know, fucking acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Whatever. Let's bring some fucking She.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Like, there's like three, like fucking three acts to this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's like, I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I'm trapped in a fright Gary building, but I hate
being trapped.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And then she said, and if it's architecturally defensible, And
then you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Sound like even the way it's written, I can I
can tell this person on the phone is smarter than you,
because they're like.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's not real what it moves.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No, it's you know, it's an idea, an idea, the
ip there's no hall, and what is it? It's an idea,
It doesn't exist. I mean, well, yeah, it exists as
an idea. It was only a place in imagination.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It reminds me of if Jenna ma Rony from thirty
Rock wrote a memoir, you know, like overly dramatic, dumb
as rocks, like dumber than the people around her, but
like just in her own shit.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean this makes sense because I did. I think
it was in The Guardian.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I saw an English journalist just panning this book.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
To being like you, your journalists take themselves so fucking exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah that one.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Too, are y'all a like we even know there's some
silliness about it, but like, come on, y'all, you can't
think this shit is really banging, right?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I think she did.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think she really was, Like move over, Joan Didion,
I'm about to fucking be the shit.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh me the square our route of sixty four because
I eight all right.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Those are some of the things that are trending on
this Thursday, December fourth. We are back tomorrow with a
whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines
way you still can't get your flu shot. Don't do
nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to you
all tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of transa
that one courtesy of first Blood five twenty two on
the discord, who said as a Budweiser frog and then
gave me trends A.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh okay, so how would you do?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Would just be like friends, Trevor.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, all right, maybe that maybe that was like a
combine combining of two separate Bubbweizer ads in their minds.
Either way, it's fine. You did great first Blood five
twenty two. My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there
as Miles Gray. It is, uh, Miles, You've been on
a bit of a bit of a run finding good
Instagram clips to you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
You know, you work in the industry, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm forty one dude, So like Instagram reach out to
you directly?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Are they like sending these videos to you directly? That's crazy, man,
They're emailing you.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Just find these on your own through the algorithm.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm just like scrolling, dude, These like sick ass videos
shows deep scrolling, scroll and scrolling. O.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
All right, this is the episode where we'll tell you
what's trending. On this Thursday, December fourth, we got an
arrest in January sixth pipe bombing. Wow, I remember that
this is a blast from the past, last in the
freaking past.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I didn't remember that there.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I do remember now that there's a detail that like
somebody had planted pipe bombs all over the place.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, in front of the Republican and Democratic Party headquarters
the night before January sixth, twenty twenty one, twenty two one.
Like so at the time, I don't know if you remember,
you were like, it's Marjorie Tayler Green, if you were
saying this all kinds of weird shit, people doing half
assed gait analysis on the suspect. The thing was like,
(01:52):
like earlier, there was a woman who got caught up
in this investigation who I believe like worked for at
the Capitol, like doing like a capital officer, but she
became like a suspect because like the dubious analysis from
like the Blaze media, Glenn Beck's outlet, and then Pulsi
Gabbard willing to take that as the truth.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So that was a bit of a weird hiccup there.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
That woman was cleared, thank god, because she had nothing
to do with it aside from someone I'm like, you know,
the Blaze being like it's got to be this person.
But now I guess this is the person again, I
don't know if I have faith we.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Have any information on who it is or they're just
like they did give it. They did give the name
some dude from Virginia.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Ladies and gentlemen we got we got.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Him play the crab rave music. The I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I mean, like it's Cash Betel's FBI, so it could
be fucking andy. They might just be like, bro, we
need to fucking win. So just getting somebody to wait supremacist.
But what ye are the possible motive? Like I get,
I guess the Blaze wanted it to be this sort
of this woman because it would suggest that it was
(03:01):
like an inside job by the mainstream Democrats.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Is that the idea.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Or just that you can't trust anyone who even works
for Capitol Police?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Like who are the enemies? You know?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Recontextualizing, there was only one side of the aisle that
knew that some shit was going to go down on
January sixth, right like it was.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It was not like that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
That was kind of a Trump said come here, it's
going to go down, and then people came there and
had plans for like launching the overthrow of the government
and hanging Mike Pence. So it does seem like I'd
be highly suspicious if this person is not somehow like
plugged into that world. If they're just like, no, it
(03:44):
was actually Antifa or like the pure anarchist.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Other people do love planning bombs, I will say, but
to the early twentieth century.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think the one the one dimension of it is
apparently like the FBI just sort of picked up the
work that was being done in twenty twenty one and
twenty twenty two, so it might not necessarily.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Be like, look what we did.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
They're like, oh yeah, yeah, let's let's let's follow sudden lyds.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I have no idea like where this is gonna lead.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
But again, uh, the headline is January sixth, Pipe bomber
arrest it so hey, that headline makes it look like
the FBI is functioning, doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
They're fucking doing shit. They're putting him work out here,
and it wasn't. Marjorie Taylor Greed the person from No No,
some dude, let's talk about let's talk about real estate,
something we don't cover off on this show.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, how's your portfolio looking, man, I've got just
closed on a fucking forty three unit building.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
These tenants, I mean, we talk about this a lot
of off. Mike, my fucking tenants. Oh my god, they're
so selfish.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
After another person talk about, you know, how, how they
shouldn't be evicted because it's.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Some Look, everybody's gonna I got fucking bills.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Why do you think I'm asking you to pay my
fucking rent? But yeah, the real estate is an interesting thing,
particularly for me as somebody who used to live in
used to own a home that burned down in a fire.
That's right, Yeah, I really wish it was manly god.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
One more, yeah, mass shooting exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
So if you've been on like websites like Zillo or
red fin, you probably notice that there's like a section
along with like square footage or other relevant details about
a home, there's also like data about like air quality
or like fires or floods. Shut up another climate related
liability on the zone.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Oh my god, of my get the Oh so they're
printing fake news on Zillo and Redfin. Wow, that's not
what I come to those places.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, I come to see how much my grandma's house
is worth, so when she finally kicks it, I can flip.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It for fucking Lambeau money.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
So apparently now Zillo has just removed that information because
I guess a bunch of real estate agents were complaining zis.
Zillo has now deleted this climate index after complaints from
real estate agents and some homeowners that the rankings appeared arbitrary,
could not be challenged, and harmed house sales.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
The complaints included those from the California anyways.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Blah Blah blah Zilla said it remains committed to help
Americans make informed decisions about properties, which listings now contain
outbound links to the website of First Street, which is
the nonprofit climate risk quantifier that used to put the
data there. So like, oh, we're still linking off to
We just don't want to put bummer shit on it.
So like affects your decision to buy a house in
this overinflated housing market where nothing is affordable.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
People like have argued the data is actually.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Like undermining confidence in climate science by giving like broad
analysis about risk on a specific plot of land. But
I think overall this information is relevant. I think the
larger part of it, I don't. I don't think people
are saying, oh my god, people are don't believe in
climate change because of the Zillow listings. That's a I
think a bridge too far. But I do think it
(07:16):
is important. I think for anyone you know, like you're
looking again, I was living in a place that just
got skull fucked by a wildfire, and it was in there,
and I even looked at the maps I remember in
the beginning before we moved in that like showed my
place was like on the brink of like the dangers
of dangers like a fire. And most people were like,
it would take something like truly horrific for it going
(07:39):
into like an urban basin like that, And I'm like, Okay,
I think.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
They're making a face like they're doing the jack off
hand motion. It would take something truly just like once
in a generation or once every seven years.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Now the climate a few years.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I'll tell you who does have access to this
information is insurance companies. So if you're making a big
per just you should probably check it out.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Is probably a good idea, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Because also too, like you don't want to know you're
in a flood risk area, and then like do I
need flood insurance or whatever?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Trust me, uh as somebody who's underinsured. Shit, bro to
keep your wits about you. But I think the big
deal here is that the heart the housing market is
just so fucked up and unaffordable that I think this
data is just more prominent.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The industry is like, what do we do? It's like,
it can't it can't be the unaffordability of it all.
It has to be that someone's being pulled. They live
in a place with bad air quality Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
The yeah, they're like this is what people do for fun.
This is like there their wish casting. They're just like
looking at houses and being like, man, could you imagine?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So don't fucking bum them out? Yeah yeah, the message God.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Just I don't know if the affordability I think it's
the I don't think it's I think it's the it's
the market itself.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
It's not the fucking zi little Ah.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Put that on like page seven, you know, not page one.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We don't want to see that up front. We don't
want to bum them out.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, anyway, like I said, I'm doing great.
Like I said, just close on a forty three unit
building that's right about to kick everybody the fuck out, man.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And I don't have to pay insurance, so you know, yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, you got.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
You should see the fucking contracts that make these people sign.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
The ret hikes are fucking baked into the legal contract
they signed.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It does remind me of how the Trump administration, like
various corporations were like, and now that our prices are
going to go way up because of tariffs, we're gonna
start listing that in the prices and then that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Got hit camned. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Yeah, exactly how corporations are allowed to present information is
going to be interesting. Yeah, I mean again, less and
less profitable. Yeah, to tell people the truth.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I just don't. I don't know. I don't know
what the solution is.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I certainly don't trust the Republican Party to figure out
what the solution is.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I think that was in crisis. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk
about RoboCop.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Detroit has finally honored its greatest resident.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
An eleven foot tall bronze statue of RoboCop. You don't
know who's in the RoboCop gear. I mean, you assume
it's Peter Weller, but it could be Eminem.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I'm going to say it's j Dilla. That's my Detroit person. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's like there the art.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Basically, people were like, well, could we not fund this
with taxpayer money since Detroit is the poorest city with
over five hundred thousand people and like, I think over
half the population lives under the poverty line. Uh, and
so they It ended up being a big debate. On
the one side, it was people being like, dude, Philadelphia
(10:58):
has Rocky, why don't like this is our Rocky, let's
do RoboCop statue. And on the other side of these
people being like, I don't know, maybe they could take
that money and fund food banks for all the very
hungry people in our rocket.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
He's kind of like an underdog story if I remember,
And this is about a fucking robot cop.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
In a dystopian police state. Yeah yeah, Like how much
of this is people just being like that movie ripped
and how much of it is people being like this
would be the answer if we could just get Elon
Musk to release it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
No idea, I mean, like I get it, like RoboCop iconic.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Sure, Detroit, great.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But like you said, you might have bigger problems in
figuring out how to honor a robot cop.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah. Movie.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
He also was sick in that KFC campaign. Did you
ever see that ad?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
No? I saw the image of it, and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The kernel is just at a at a banquet style
southern and like it looks like a dinner from Django unchained,
but the kernel is in a robocopsuit. And somebody says,
how do you like make it taste so good? And
he says, if I told you, I would have to
kill you, And everyone gets real quiet, and then he
(12:18):
starts going ha ha ha ha, and then everybody starts laughing.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's very very strange. Stops laughing. Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, And then he stops laughing and gives a very
serious look to the camera like I'll fucking kill you
if you try.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And special recipe? How much?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
How much did it cost? Sixty seven thousand dollars? Jesus
eleven feet tall, Miles, it's eleven feet tall. It's bronze.
He's kind of thick, like they kind of gave him
real thick legs. I don't remember his legs are off
to me, do you see what I'm saying, Like it
(12:53):
almost looks like he's a child that was placed into
the RoboCop suit, Like they're like two high on his
hips or something.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
They should have had you come in to consult on this.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'm just saying, Man, it would have humiliated themselves with
this awful robot statue.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
But anyways, like the statue was finished in twenty seventeen,
but nobody wanted, Like at first it was gonna be
in front of the Michigan Science Center, which that one
actually makes sense to me because it's like, Okay, you
want to like bring kids to the Science Center, and
I guess dystopium robotic killing machines are kind of science.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Y, sick carceral technologies.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, I got to get them pointed in that direction,
but it ended up being in the Eastern Market area
outside the Free Age Video Production Studio, which also I
guess seems seems appropriate. At one point after they completed
the statue, but like when they couldn't find a place
to put it, the mayor of Stevens Point, Wisconsin, a
(13:52):
birthplace of actor Peter Weller, tried to take the statue
off Detroit's hands, and then there was like a feud
where they were like, no, fuck you, and he's like,
fuck you, I'm gonna And then like when they wouldn't
give it to him, he's like, I'm going to three
D print a Robocops statue that will be twelve feet tall.
Oh hold that destroys up.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Wow, pay attention to the people that fucking need help.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean, like, honestly, I wouldn't give a.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Shit about a Robocops statue, but like in the context
of just municipal funds being spent in the dumbest ways,
like yeah, get the fuck.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Out of here, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
So eventually they it was crowdfunded because because of that,
and then there is okay, I will say like there
might have been an overall net gain because of this,
because one online argument about the idea of like funding
a Robocops statue, it was like a Hollywood screenwriter and
a comic book artist, and they ended up founding a
(14:56):
robo charity which encouraged RoboCop fans to donate money to
the Forgotten Harvest Food Bank. So they were like, hey,
if you think this is a good idea, maybe maybe
they can help the people of Detroit. I would call
it robo charity.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Huh oh yeah, yeah, go.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
On, wait a second, and I think there is like
eight thousand dollars. So uh all right, let's take a
quick break.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
We're back, And just another update on the hoax that
Donald Trump identified aka affordability. Yeah, that's what is that.
That doesn't mean anything. That nobody even knows what you're
talking about. That's just a thing that you guys say
to me. The people who I surround myself with, yes men,
(15:53):
they never about affordability.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's something that left came up with.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The yes men and billionaires that I surround myself with
at my private golf club never never use that word.
So it's not real. It's just you weirdos in the media.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
There was just a political poll that shows that even
his voters are starting to blame him.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's not good. That's probably not good.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I mean, like, the whole thing with just yelling a
hoax that someone's lived experience is that it only serves
to sue the feelings of the person yelling hoax, because meanwhile,
reality ticks on in this case, the affordability crisis. But
I think, like to your point, now that that polling
has come out and his own voters are like, uh yeah,
(16:40):
I think wait, so Trump's the president.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And the Republicans of this and in the House and
the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, I actually I think, yeah, this, I think this
is Trump's fault now. So now they have basically taken
that affordability whistle stop tour that they were teasing last
month and kicking it into high gear now. But the
plans the same, go to battleground states. I think it's
kicking off in Pennsylvania next week and just say shit,
like I did all this shit for the economy already
(17:09):
that you aren't giving me credit for what fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And it is working. It's working.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's there is some small improvements we can make, but
it is working, and you actually aren't experiencing, uh what
you think you're experiencing.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
This is to be fair.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Also, the strategy that was employed to great effect by
the Biden administration. Yep, when people are like talking about
why the fuck is everything so expensive? What's your fucking problem?
And he was like, what are you? We got the
best economy of all time.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Look at the line Jack, it's going up. Yeah, what
the heck? You guys are batterier than a bat or something.
I gotta I gotta lay down. It's slow up top,
it's slow up low baby.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah yeah, it ain't turn it as quickly as it
used to. Uh, this is from an axios right up.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
White House aid c Trump as a Republican party's best
salesman and it's best chance to reverse falling poll numbers
for both the president and his party.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I feel like they're working with old data there, like
he was the best salesman during the campaign, that when
he could just be like, I'm actually gonna fix it
on day one if I feel like it, Yeah, I'll
probably do.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
That on the sidelines, I believe is what they called.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Since that time, his name has become associated with basically
the Epstein files and saying affordability as a hoax while
people starve.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And also starving people intentionally by like cutting like snap
funds and basically doing everything you can usterity measures.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, just handling the government.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But the article goes on saying, but it's privately acknowledged
that there's more to be done to address cost of
living concerns no shit dot com, slash are you fucking
for real? Dot html and say that on this trip,
Trump will also preview upcoming plans. Oh what are those up?
Western music gift card on every dining table.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I can't wait to see what these are. These are
gonna be good ones.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, look, he's right now, he's floated checks for
tariff checks or something, and they can do that.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
But that's a good to start.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
There's no support like that has to be happened in Congress,
and the House is already like, no, fuck you talking
about you?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
How much money? That is? Like we're we're like, we
have no we have to the austerity guys.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And then fifty year mortgages was the other one where
it's like, well then it'll make your payment lord. It's
like yeah, and you'll never pay your home off because
of interest accruing for.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Fifty fucking years. What are you saying?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
So?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I don't know. I'm sure it's gonna be some.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's probably gonna be a mix of a half truth
that mate might be able to happen, but sounds just
believable enough that people might think differently, although I doubt it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, it doesn't seem likely, all right, Costco is suing
over the tariffs. Did the Supreme Court like say the
tariffs were or like some court was like these are not.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, well they're there right now.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
The Supreme Court did hear arguments last month, like in November,
because they are challenging Trump's authority to They still haven't
made a decision on that, but that hasn't stopped companies
like Costco filing a filing a lawsuit in the US
Court of International Trade because what they're doing is like, well,
if the Supreme Court still deliberating, and if they say
(20:29):
this shit is is illegal or you know that wasn't
supposed to be implemented in the first place, then run
me my fucking refund for all these fucking tariffs I
just paid. And other companies are basically, I think, also
filing lawsuits to sort of get a place in line
as it is to be like, well, bro, I was
here suing before anybody, so you better get run me
(20:50):
my tariff money back.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
And now this has led to like a bunch of MAGA.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Influencers and people on the internet saying shit like fucking
Costco's treason is for trying to go against fucking the
tariffs and things like that. One guy posted bye bye
Costco after doubling down on nonsensical DEI social justice practices.
Costco is doing Trump administration for full refunds of the
president's tariffs. If you didn't have a reason to sell
(21:16):
your Costco stock and cancel your memberships before you do,
now refuse to fund their attack on what the people
voted for.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
No, no, no, no, you didn't vote for this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I bet that guy has like so many up votes
and everybody's gonna start doing it.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
And Costco.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
There's a lot of people quote unquote canceling there, but like, sure.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, remember how well that worked with like Nike when
curate Wolvo.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I think Costco is in a very interesting position because
of all the companies like they're trying to do something
somewhat like keep their prices stable ish you don't want
to charge more for like their hot dogs, like certain
things like the CEO is like, bro, I can't We're
not we have to have some floor here or like
a ceiling here for like what our fucking hot dog
will cost, And a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Of people like, please don't fuck up.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
I mean, obviously prices have gone up and down. All
that to say is the DEI outrage mob could have
jumped ship. Like how these people are referencing, will they
go to a woke Like when Costco full throated came
out it said, diversity is like fucking really good when
you want to sell shit to people, Just so you know,
that's our philosophy.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, which is a note that target missed. And now
like they're basically in opposite situations.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
M M. I mean this does like when it comes
to the Supreme Court, the idea of Costco bringing a
case against the Trump administration does make me like that
that is the one legally protected group in the United
States is like massive corporations that make a shitload of money.
You know, Yeah, I do feel like they can go
(22:47):
up against Like granted we can't always or usually trust
them to do the right thing, but this does feel
like something that if I was in the Trump administration,
I probably be a little bit worried about. Yeah, but
I think at the end, I mean, at the end
of the day, there the mentality of this administration has
been like We're just going to bring corporations to heal
(23:09):
with whatever tactics we want.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
To use.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean, we've seen that with the tech industry, although
part of that is very much beneficial for their you know,
fake AI industry at the moment. But you know what,
good luck to those people canceling. You know, hopefully you'll
send them a message. But Costco did report eight point
one percent sales growth in November.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
So yay, that's our good that's the corporation that we
root for.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Those are the good guys, corporation Pokemon.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
I choose you, and I just wanted to touch on
this Olivia Uzzy, but because I've read little excerpts from
so this is the woman who had the affair with RFK.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Did she have an affair? It was like digital affair?
What's it? Was?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Apparently an emotional affair according to her, and then her
ex seems to dispute that it was the one that
gave us rfks weird like sex poetry where it's like
I'm gonna push your cheeks together until your mouth opens
and then run through you like water run through a canyon.
(24:15):
I forget exactly what it was. It sounded like waterboarding.
But there are First of all, so she released this
book that is the memoir of like her experience over
the last year of like having her relationship with Ryan
Lizza fall apart in the aftermath of the RFK thing.
(24:36):
But she kind of became a cause celeb, like in
the mainstream media because you know, there's a lot of
attention around her and it is an interesting story, and
she had this memoir coming out about this, and she's.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, a writer that people liked.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And the memoir came out and it, at least with
regards to critics, it bricked. They are like, this is
not good. So, like Vanity Fair had already made her
the Vanity Fair West Coast editor, and the book came
out and they were immediately like, we're going to have
(25:13):
a conversation on our end about what to do here.
Like we were like, oh, this is such a good
So we were under the impression that this book was
going to be good.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
New York Times called it aggressively awful and regrettably self serious,
pointing out that it's not even much of a tell
all because she doesn't name many of the people involved,
Like she just calls RFK Junior the politician, and so
you have to like google to like figure out who
just to like make guesses as like who these people are,
but there's also like it's worth reading some of the
(25:47):
some of the excerpts, and I just want to read
this one to you. It's about a trip to the
WWE Hall of Fame that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
You wanted to take. She is she a big wrestling fan.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I don't know, man, uh, she said, there is always
something new to consider, or something to consider in a
new way. In that spirit, I called WWE headquarters. Sorry,
not possible. The receptionist said, not possible. I asked visiting
would be impossible?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
She said.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
My eyes narrowed. I looked out the window of my
newsroom and the Frank Gary building on the Hudson River
that looked like a big block of glacier ice. I
did not like to be trapped any place, even somewhere
I considered architecturally defensible, and I had wanted to escape today.
Had been counting on this opportunity to escape. The news
of the impossibility of a visit to the Hall of
(26:37):
Fame depressed me. It's private, I asked, there's no place
to visit. The receptionist said, no place. I asked, right,
She said it moved, I asked, no, it's you know,
an idea. She said, an idea, the Hall of She
cut in, no hall. There's no hall. She said, then
(26:57):
what is it? I asked, it's an idea, she said,
an idea. She had mentioned that already. It doesn't exist.
I asked, well it exists, she said where. I asked,
as an idea? She said, it was a place only
in imagination.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Oh my god, she like right, that was fucking awful
and humiliating.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
So it's so humiliate like every segment, like I just
found out about Jay our writer Jay, I'm put this
one in, but I had, like the guys on Chopo
Traphouse like read an excerpt from it and it's all
this shit where it's like pseudo literary, but like she's
not saying anything, yeah, and it's like she just like
tries to literature up these just like nonsense things where like, yeah,
(27:46):
that's the thing. People know that the WWE Hall of
Fame is actually like not a place. They haven't like
created the place yet, and so it's just like a
thing that where they nominate people and it becomes a
news hook. But they're cheap and so they didn't like
actually go through the process of building for yeah. Yeah,
exactly like to treat that piece of information as this
(28:07):
like fucking literary wanna be who's on first thing that
ends with it was a place only in imagination? Like
it there's something profound about it instead of just like
you know, summarizing it in a sentence like I just did,
just seems.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
So condensed that whole page into I mistakenly thought the
w W Hall of Fame was a physical place, but
when I called it was revealed to me that it's
merely just referencing the concept of a hall of fame
where the greats are, you know, fucking acknowledged.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Whatever. Let's bring some fucking She.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Like, there's like three, like fucking three acts to this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
It's like, I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I'm trapped in a fright Gary building, but I hate
being trapped.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And then she said, and if it's architecturally defensible, And
then you.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Sound like even the way it's written, I can I
can tell this person on the phone is smarter than you,
because they're like.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It's not real what it moves.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
No, it's you know, it's an idea, an idea, the
ip there's no hall, and what is it? It's an idea,
It doesn't exist. I mean, well, yeah, it exists as
an idea. It was only a place in imagination.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
It reminds me of if Jenna ma Rony from thirty
Rock wrote a memoir, you know, like overly dramatic, dumb
as rocks, like dumber than the people around her, but
like just in her own shit.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean this makes sense because I did. I think
it was in The Guardian.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I saw an English journalist just panning this book.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
To being like you, your journalists take themselves so fucking exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah that one.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Too, are y'all a like we even know there's some
silliness about it, but like, come on, y'all, you can't
think this shit is really banging, right?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I think she did.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think she really was, Like move over, Joan Didion,
I'm about to fucking be the shit.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh me the square our route of sixty four because
I eight all right.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Those are some of the things that are trending on
this Thursday, December fourth. We are back tomorrow with a
whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines
way you still can't get your flu shot. Don't do
nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to you
all tomorrow.
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