December 16, 2025 • 61 mins
In episode 1980, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and desert star tour guide, Caitlin Gill, to discuss… Trump Can’t Throw Coin Good, MAGA Base Also Starting To Cool On Economy, All Those Pictures, Donald Trump Admits That His Son Won’t Care When He Dies, George Orwell’s Animal Farm Gets The Minions Treatment and more!
- Trump Can’t Throw Coin Good
- Trump: “You’re gonna see results in 6 months to a year”
- What we know about the Epstein photos released by Democrats
- Trump, 79, Admits His Own Son Wouldn’t Want to Attend His Memorial
- Trump gets distracted by a woman in the crowd he says looks like Ivanka and has her turn for the cameras
- Sweaty Trump Rambles About Snakes and Thirsts Over Ivanka Lookalike
- George Orwell’s Animal Farm Gets The Minions Treatment
- New Animal Farm animated comedy is getting roasted already
- How the CIA Used ‘Animal Farm’ As Cold War Propaganda
- Andy Serkis’ ‘Animal Farm’ Animation Acquired by Angel, First Trailer Unveiled
- The trailer for Andy Serkis' Animal Farm won't help with your book report
- Animal Farm film blames capitalism... and has a happy ending
- George Orwell: Why I Write
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Oh shoot, I have to click the buttons and then
you can hear me go monomena button phenomena.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well that's a wait, what's that you got? Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I thought I was hearing my own echo, but was
just perfectly on beat. Isn't it the Muppets theme?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Monomena penomena, it's the Muppets. It's the Muppets. I think
I knew it mostly from all right. I first remember
it vividly from like the Ricky Gervais's office where there's
like a scene where they can't stop fucking doing it.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's hard to stop. Once you start, it's going to
be happening for the Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's the penomena of it all that really, it really is.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But the monomena of it all, something like a monomena?
How did they not do that?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Call weird?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
What's it? Wait? So that is the Muppets. That's the
Muppet The Muppet.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Show the original did a cover.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh cake, my favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's on B sides and verities.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Man nomena ma na ma nah. Do we know what
it's called? Monomena a h n a? Oh, it's mona
mana mana, it's machna if we're going with the correct pronunciation.
Give a little, a little flavor on that. The song
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by Piero Umilani. Yeah, it started. It was by an
Italian composer and the fucking muppets and the muppets, a
bunch of muppets just mighte have sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And here I am giving them up. It's full credit.
Of course it has a coin. I mean fine Piero
Umiliani erasure.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I mean the way it's spelled to it feels like
it was a like He's like, this track is called Manna, Manna,
and then then it becomes old.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He seems like an Italian person trying to teach people
how to say Italian words mana mana, mana Miliani. Hello
the Internet, and welcome to season four, nineteen, Episode two.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Of DURDAILYSI Guys.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, it was a production of iHeartRadio as a podcast
where we take a deep dive into americans shared consciousness
through the day's news. We also have a new weekly
history version of the show dropping each Monday morning, where
we do a deep dive into the history of a
different icon. We've done this Piggy with Jamie Loftus, Arnold
Schwartzenegger with John Gabris and yesterday we covered the most
(03:01):
famous person on the planet, Santa Laus Santaus cows with
Blake Wexler. Look for the episodes on Monday with icon
in the title. It is Tuesday, December sixteenth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, oh man, we know that is welcome to the
National Day. Here are your national days and totally paid
for by interest groups who wanted access to this county.
You think there's anyone.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Who visits that website as much as you I know there,
I would depress me if that if there were.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I think single handedly the people who run there like man,
they are loved. There's just one person in la who
is loving it. Five days a week there on it.
Some kinds gets nothing to live for. This guy's a
piece of shit. Man just puts weird stuff in there.
That's made up. It's actually National Chocolate Covered Anything Day.
So look, if you like it covered in chocolate, it's
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your day. This one is interesting. It's Barbie and Barney
Backlash Day. This is an official day nine days out
from Christmas and it's Barbie and Barney Bloclast allows parents
to take a vacation from all the repetitive sing alongs
and storytelling.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
By backlashing, by losing control of your emotions around your children.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
The day permits parents to turn off the annoying cartoons
and songs and scream app Parents may insist on a
different book to read at bedtime, put away the noisy toys.
If you dare a child, what child development was?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That man.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Freed them like pets and you rub your nose, rub
their nose in it. That's how they learn. That's my day.
This is my day to tell you how much I
fucking hate Barney. No, it's Barney and Barbie backlash. This
stuff is bullshit.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You throw it out the window, and being mad at
Barney is the coolest take that you can have.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, good, Yeah, good work.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Anybody who celebrates.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm not gonna yuck your home, but come on, find
a new angle. It's a normal collar. Find a new angle.
My name is Jack O'Brien a. You're so cringe. That's
what the older girls say about you. You're so cringe
that we go to see a snarfil on the discord,
in reference to an older kid explaining what cringe means
(05:15):
to my nine year old that I've ever heard and
how I was like, that's a little cringe, and they
were like, wait, what what does that mean. They're like, oh,
it's like a thing that older girls say about you,
if they think what you're doing isn't cool.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I love that, just like that pure child distillation of like, yeah,
it's thing girls say when they not like you. Oh cringe, Yes, indeed.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Anyways, shout out to Snarfula on the discord. I'm thrilled
to be joined, as always by my co host, mister
Miles Grat.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancersham, the coughing Cabaletro
because I'm back from illness, uh and just lightly coughing
now and rising out of a coffin. Yes, exactly, here
I am, and I've come to ink your blood.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
We're thrilled to have you here, mine, and we're thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious
stand up comedian, comedy writer, actor, fashion icon. You can
go gaze at the stars with them in the desert.
It's one of our all time favorite TDZ guests is Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Stately genuinely excited to cover Barbie and chocolate and devour
it today.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I think that's it's cover anything anything covered in chocolate.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I think the open doors they did not anticipate with the.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, I think it's uh yeah, it would be fun
if they're like, hey, go wild, like even putt non
food stuff, dip it in chocolate, do it. Let's just
have it anything.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Everything is so mindy like soap, like everything is so
like is boring. They're like, try these like bananas. Wait,
what the cookies? It says cookies.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
What the wait? When you said anything, you really meant anything? Okay,
and cookies.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We're international biscotti. Ever seen biscotti dipped in chocolate? I
never have, but it is today? What is nineteen ninety two? Nugat?
I don't know, man, we're going crazy over here.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Nugat, cherries, ice cream Sunday No yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, how do I know?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
They already did it to bacon? Ok the Internet and
bacon culture together the most I think the most out
there thing on this list is ritz crackers. Honestly, I'm
on board.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I'm not saying I wouldn't eat all these things.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm just saying, but everything else is things that are
normally or you've seen like covered in or with chocolate,
marshmallows or fudge. Is it fudge? Yeah? Think about that, dude,
cover fudge and what about crazy? What about child flip budge?
Covered in? You never had those tastes before.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's the level of imagination you're working with with the
cover anything in chocolate day, people, you can do fucking anything.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Fruit, fruit, chocolate, could what else? Marshmallow?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Literally anything your heart desires. Caitlin, We're thrilled to have
you back joining us from the desert. We're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in the moment. First,
we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. One thing that happened over the weekend is
Donald Trump tried to toss a coin and did so
like an alien.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No, I hast it. They said they've never seen someone
like That's so good. No, I think you're right, sir.
Many people did say I've never seen a coin.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Tossed like that before, like almost as if he thought
the point was to not have it turn over in
the air like he like he was tossing a pizza,
you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It feel like how he would toss a coin though, yeah, yeah, right,
call it first, and then he makes his call and
then desperately tries to make the coin just levitate and
land again without alternate.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
His control all outcomes so that they benefit him.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
His hand shape was sort of like the the is
this a pigeon meme where it's like, it's like from
the anime, you know what I mean, and the guy's like,
is this pig? Is this butterfly? Was like, is this
coin to us? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Uh So we'll talk about that, We'll talk about his
relatively bad approval rating, We'll talk about all those pictures
that dropped of just everybody. People were just like, let
me get let me get let me snap a few
with with Jeffrey Epstein in here real quick. Let's let's
get some group picks, guys. Like, this is before digital.
(09:51):
This was like back when people were didn't take that
many pictures, except except if you were wealthy and in
the orbit of Jeffrey Epstein, in which case you were,
you're as many picture as you possibly could.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I think the pictures were common, But I think
it's one of those things too, where because physical media
was sort of like and that's in a book that
probably got lost in a dumpster somewhere versus like our
digital era. Everything's like that all at once.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We'll talk about that, We'll talk about his weird Christmas speech.
We'll talk about the new animal Farm, Animal Farm getting
the Mingian's treatment Baby, We'll talk about the history of
adapting that book and what it's looking like this one's
going to be. And we'll talk about the Home Alone House,
which is being unrenovated to look like the Home Alone
(10:40):
House once again. All of that plenty more. But first, Caitlin,
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Very typically this week I searched the term space potatoes.
It is a term used to reference objects that are
not large enough ms to become round in space, and
I wanted to figure out how formalize this term as
because it's sort of a nickname for these objects. As
it turns out, I thought it might have there are
some sort of frivolous terms in astronomy that get stuck
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pretty hard and become more official. Space potatoes more of
a dake name for these objects that retain sort of
an odd or lumpy shape. But in my search I
learned that the Fishercats out of New Hampshire, I want
to say double A baseball team did play as the
Space Potatoes for a few games, and I hope that
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that returns again next year. They did three nights in
twenty twenty five as the Space Potatoes. The logo is sick.
The merch sold out super fast, But in trying to
learn how formal a name Space Potatoes was, I learned
that it was really only formal for a New Hampshire
Double A baseball team for three games this year. Still
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a good nickname those objects that are not large enough
to round out.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The logo is a wild because it's like it's like
an angry potato, either resisting being beamed up from a
spaceship or getting sent down. And it's like got a
baseball bat, and I'm like, I'm gonna fuck all of
you earthlings up right now.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna beat every earthling at baseball.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Does seem like it's got flame coming off the top
of his head, so it does seem like it's coming
at us as if it was sent by angry aliens.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right right. Yeah. I was like, yeah, Space potato. I
was like, oh God, in the era of internet lingo,
I'm like, who is it?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
What do we call directions? But it is not a
chocolate covered potato. It is something that is not big
enough to get round in space.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like a thing a boomer would call someone who like
asks a weird trippy question and potato potatoes over here.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Or maybe that astronaut Scott Kelly if there's like anti
Irish sentiment potato.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So I didn't, I guess I hadn't really thought about
the fact that it's the planets round because closer a
lot of gravity, so a lot of mass, a lot
of gravity, so everything gets pulling in, pull them in together.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Gravity works from the center out, so as your mass increases,
it depends on what you're made of, so there's not
a specific tipping point, but depending on what accretes together,
what globs together to create you a blob in space,
maybe be kind of become a planet. Maybe you're just
an asteroid. That just an asteroid. I'm not trying to,
you know, dismiss the validity.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
By the way, you're a heavenly body.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Gravity works from the center and it's active in all
directions equally, so there's a tipping point in your size
depending on what you're made of, where the force of
the gravity that you have becomes stronger than the material
you're made of. And one that when that happens, gravity
can change the shape of that material. And the most
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natural shaped take if gravity's working from the center equally
in all directions, is a sphere. So things tend to
get rounded out once they have enough mass because of
the effects of gravity.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Are there, like, are there like anomalists small things that
end up getting anomalists?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Are they made of? Is of low density or easily malleable? Essentially,
gravity could round you out and you could be tiny.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm just trying to make sure there's there's paths for everyone. Also,
I said that astronaut Scott Kelly, and I was like, wait,
did I say Mark Kelly's name wrong? The senator who's
also a NaSTA guy, because I know identical twin brother.
His identical twin brother is Scott Kelly.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
As have they admitted that or are they just going
around as one person trying to trick everybody. I don't
know who they should do?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like, now we got to catch Mark or so got
forgettable names? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
They're doing a prestige. Yeah, so that I mean that
that goes along with the roundness of the Earth. That
there's that Neil de grass Tyson concept that if you
shrunk our planet down to the size of a cubeball,
but actually be smooth and rounder than a cube ball,
even with like all the mountains and shit like, that's
how how perfectly round the planet Earth is.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We are pretty round. We do have a little football
e bulge and Neil to grass can he he'll talk
about this tube. But the moon swings around us.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
One thing about.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Him because of the Moon's gravity shifting the center of
our planet back and forth over time as it swings
around us. We have a little bulge. We got a
little football American football.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Wow, yeah, Nucky, Look.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Were that dense then we to be super super smooth.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Could we have laid you down in your crib differently
to not have your head shaped like that as a baby?
Maybe you know what, I still think you're beautiful. I
still think you're beautiful. Uh, Caitlin, what is something you
think is underrated?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, so this has to do with Aaron's I have
to run later today. Underrated is the chaos of Costco's layout.
Common complaint this is body built by Kirkland everybody. I'm
a Costco loyalist. This is what being forty four years
old looks like.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Uh, welcome to the signature family.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Zerra is waiting for you, our darling longer younger listeners.
Embrace this version of yourself as it emerges. But there's
a common complaint that Costco is madness and it's difficult
to find anything. And yes, that is the point. That
is the thrill of the hunt, that is the adventure.
The fact that apples are never in the same place
twice leads you to buycom quots. Just lean into it, right,
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So I genuinely enjoy the active, full stroll of Costco.
And maybe it's just me giving in to immovable force,
but I uh are a movable object, irresistible for you
know what I mean. I thoroughly enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a there's so much written about Costco layouts where
it's like it's actually very interesting, it's like very intentional.
If you like, what the.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Fuck is this, there's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
There's three master outs to Costco stores. It's one of them.
Always like, oh Jesus Christ, I don't know. I'm I'm
always just I'm like, damn, there's so much shit in
here's my first slide.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's the physical algorithm, right, Like, it knows what you're
going to browse for, and it knows exactly how you're
gonna move through the store, and just as you scroll
and it, it creeps into your brain then holds onto
it tight and doesn't release you, allow the the the
planned chaos of Costco to do the same thing, right, right,
give in, don't resist. Yeah, just you know, except that
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there's a palett of sweet corn hanging out above the
water pick that you didn't know you're gonna buy, but
your teeth will never feel cleaner.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Right, And then there's I was just reading too, Like
that says well for the more popular items, they are
laid out towards the back, so that means people in
the store encouraged opposite reverse the entire layout, increasing the
likelihood of impulse purchases. I'm like, okay, that's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, last leader Cosco has like flag flagpole loss leaders
like the five dollars rotissory chicken. But the cost of
buying that chicken is that you have to walk by
everything you didn't know you on it, but suddenly desperately do.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Let's see you be, Let's see you stay fucking disciplined
as you watch by.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Did get in line with a full kart of things
that I did not walk in the store to buy,
but did anyway, and was in line behind a gentleman
who had used his scooter to grab a chicken which
now comes in bags. He hung the bag over his
handlebars and just sped right back through the store. And see,
I've never seen someone master that the willpower to connectrol
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monk like. I still admire this man and think about
him regularly.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And he ited the minotaur that's throwing around in there too.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, exact, you have to get two men a tars
as something and their package together.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And he was able to solve the three mysteries as well.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I find grocery store laouds super interesting because there will
be this like agreed on wisdom to like how it's
supposed to go, so like humans naturally roam counterclockwise, Like
what if you like put a bunch of humans in
a room, like they just naturally go in that direction.
And so for a long time you always put the
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milk and the produce like right to the right when
you walked in, and like the Kroger family still does that,
and everybody used to do that because like they were
like that's the direction that humans naturally want to go,
Like why fight it, And so they designed it based
around like these natural movements of like humans as herd animal.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And then the.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Trader's Joe and like Whole Foods came in and we're like,
we're gonna do things a little different around here. We're
going to make them go the opposite direction to like
make them, i don't know, feel like they're having a
different shopping experience, and so they went the other direction.
Although Trader Joe's is pretty is kind of in line
with the Costco method of like let's just like kind
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of throw shit everywhere.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But yeah, there's always strategy of like you put the
milk somewhere that's kind of hard to get to, so
you have to roam through all the displays so that
you like get as many purchase unplanned purchases as people
are making their way through.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I've loved everyone just give in them all.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's right. What are some of the things overrated?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, so frivolous leading to like an honest moral compass
point half billion dollar movies are overrated. I nobody's living
that that We're almost there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I tried to watch the new Mission Impossible and it
was very difficult to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
It's a challenging film. Kaelin is a challenging film, and
I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Deeply challenging to sit through, and the It is just
my opinion. If you love these, I'm not coming for you.
But when I looked up most expensive films, all of
them are tortuous to me. It is a long list
of like the New Jurassic Parks and the Avengers, and
they just they've all slipped up. They've lost something. You've
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lost something, and having too much is sometimes bad. So
the heartfelt overrated thing is being super rich sucks. Having
enough money is awesome again forty four, it finally happened
to me. I can drive that SUPERU. I do own
a home. Is it a manufactured home? In twenty nine palms.
I don't want to talk about it, but I have
enough money and that is beautiful. Being super rich seems
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horrible and latent. You have to make a series a
cascade of awful decisions, one worse than the next, and
nobody edits you. So no movies. I led to life.
As is so often the case, too much is a
bad thing. You can spend too much money on your
movie and it is awful.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, you start getting studio notes when you get too rich,
you start you got a lot of studio notes coming in.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I feel like everyone's note got into Mission Impossible. I
feel like every single post it that anyone took an
idea down on is physically manifested into film. Just not
they scrapped nothing, they had did nothing. I looked it
up and Broke Back Mountain made the same amount of
money in cash dollars as copt fourteen million to make,
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made something like close to one hundred and seventy million.
Mission Impossible cost roughly four hundred million dollars to make,
made something like five hundred and ninety eight million. So
is it insane that it made that much money. It's
like it had to. The stakes were so high of
what it had to make back, and it did. But
you could have made like twenty eight broke Back Mountains.
It's Broke Back Mountain for everyone. Absolutely not if you
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made twenty eight films with fourteen million dollars, would there
be one that everybody enjoys that is actually good?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Probably right, right?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, just in trying to please everyone, they pleased me.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, So if you enjoy these films, I'm really happy
for you. I think on enjoying them. I don't have
to be right about this, but I do feel like
the more expensive the movie is, the more likely I
am to drift away and start imdbing and wikipediaing daring it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's it's I think that's spot on though, because also
I don't know anyone who like earnestly rides for the
Mission Impossible franchise, like I. I watch them all out
of habit or like me, I'm like, if I'm on
an airplane, sure, sure exactly. At the last three or
actually four Mission Possible films have only been seen on
a plane for me, because I'm like, I can't I'm
not going to the theater to see this anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
But I think what I was making this point about
those movies, I might have been on the Hollywood Handbook podcast.
What they were saying that like they can't remember which
of the movies they've seen. Yeah, I think it was
the Hollywood guys, and like, that's my problem with Mission Impossible.
All the movies, they are indistinguishable from one of them. Yeah,
Like I don't remember which one is which, or it's
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some weird detail. I'm like, where's the one with Carrie
Russell's weird eye. Okay, yeah, I remember that one right.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
There's the one where Sawyer from Lost gets off in
the first scene. I remember that one. Then there's a
one with Philip Seymour Hoffman. He's too good for this.
That's also a third one with Cary Russell's eye. Oh
my god. Yeah, you've only got one.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I think you've only seen one, but you just don't realize.
There's the jj Abrams mystery Box one. There's the one
where Tom Cruise runs a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He's on a motorcycle in that one.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, the movie he's underwater for forty minutes. He's in
a plane for forty minutes. He just like, watching a
man who desperately wants to die while making a movie
is becoming difficult.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah. And I think the other part too, is because
like in the nineties, saying something like they spent one
hundred million dollars making this, everyone was like, holy Wow, Yeah,
we gotta see this. James Cameron built a Titanic in Mexico. Yeah,
we're gonna go fucking watch, Like, yeah, I think I'm
gonna go see that one. But I think after I
think we hit the peak after the first Avatar film,
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and that was the last time you could be like, guys,
this costs so much fucking money, you have to see it.
And they were like shutting where they kept.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Making avatars and he didn't need to do that. You
didn't know you're gonna have to do that. I just
feel like it's like being super rich or like having
enough money. Having enough money lets you breathe free and clear.
We all know that, Like that's what you're striving for.
You don't want to be super rich, you don't want
to be the Pallenger guys in the middle of like
a Wall Street Journal interview, Like you want to actually
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just be able to breathe and enjoy just enough versus excess.
Is basically what I'm saying. And this was made manifest
by the new mission impossible for me.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I can't wait to see it. What you're gonna have
sell much fun all.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
The other mission impossibles for a story. It doesn't make
sense because it sucks.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It fucking sucks. I watched it recently on a plane.
I was like, the fuck.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Variety top ten movie of the years movie of the year.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Variety was also like the number ten best grossing. It
costs four hundred million dollars to make and it's number
ten on the top grossing list.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Of this year. Right, Jesus, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Done you screaming like an old woman, but I do
appreciate you allowing me to share this point of view.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
We agree, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll
come back, we'll talk about the dang economy.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
We'll you're right, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And a rare moment where the president has put outside
of his comfort zone has to do something that like
he wouldn't normally do and just has to like kind
of improvise on the spot. And that that is tossing
a coin.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Doing the coin toss for the Army Navy football game.
And my god, I just thought, again, this this is
a very odd coin flip. Let's doll you. We'll play
the audio from it and we will watch it for
a second, but like, just know, look it up because
I don't even know how to describe what it is.
It's like whimsical, robotic, and mindless all at the same time.
(27:02):
Yester President, would you do he's got it in his hand,
he says, oh, like a magic trick. Flat. He just
didn't get one of the players. Okay, So that was
I don't know if that was a flip more so
as like letting a carrier pigeon go off into the
sky like and.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Even then it really had that energy.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, not a flip. And I feel like for how like, uh,
you know, like most maga men are and how like
rigid their idea of masculinity is. I don't I can't
imagine any of them watch that and go like, holy shit, dude,
Trump fucking It was just like it was just odd
like it was also I think just also it was
funny because my non like super into politics friends. I mean,
(27:51):
they're into it because like we talk about all the time,
but usually that's not the bulk of our conversations. They
were sending that. They're like, dude, what the fuck is
this coring to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Imagine committing a portion of your life to service, in
addition risking your physical safety to play a game in
honor of the branch of the military, your serve for
the commander in chief, the man in charge of your life,
comes out to toss a coin for you, and he
basically just releases it to the wind with a gentle
(28:23):
touch of his pumpy like and I get it. He's
wearing gloves and he's seventy nine. He simply doesn't have
the motor control anymore to do that. It would have
with all that handshaking, it would have just contributed to
the bruise that we see forming. That's definitely not for
an infusion due to dementia at all.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It might be some coin tossing injuries.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Talking point.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
He was working so hard to aice it for the
Army Navy game that he took himself right out of contection.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Right on the back of the hand where an infusion
port would be. Crazy, crazy fucking coins out of control.
I mean, like again, he did it even flip And
also has he even seen a movie where like a
character like flips a coin all cool? Like, isn't that
some ship from his era? Like people are like she
like flicking a fucking coin up in the air and
be like, Wow, this guy's cool. He's manipulating a coin
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with his hands.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And it's called flipping a coin like.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sort of a yeah, neat in this instance that he did.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Not seem familiar with when he when he went into it,
as he was executing it. Yeah, it didn't seem to
have much of an idea. It does bring back when
he drank water, we said, we got to see him
drink water and like he had his like two little
dainty like both of his hands were like holding either
side and drank it like a like a squirrel.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Like yeah, or like a mouse, a mouse eating a
rich cracker, just like yeah, yeah, Like how do you
hold a bottle like that?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Okay, I wish I could dip this in chocolate. Yeah,
if that's what he needs to do to drink water,
like do it, that's great.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But you say land shakes might be involved there.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You also don't get to make fun of people who
don't have full lampiatory use of their body if you
have to drink water that way. R Yeah, Well that's
be that guy who's like, yeah, I'm president despite the
fact that I have to use both my hands to
bring a glass to my lips, Like awesome, I'm murder.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You imagine that he's like look, guys, I'll own it.
I'm not as sharp as I used to be, but
that doesn't mean I'm not as dedicated as I've always been.
And people like.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
That was required to mention for Donald Trump level, that's.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What God, who knows what we're in store for as
this because the frequency of the weird o posts increases,
just the behavior, it gets more and more odd, and
we'll get into the Christmas reception you had. But also
the polling right is not improving for Trump. It could
be all the new Epstein photos of them together, or
maybe the you need more?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Why are people like, are we trying to a staph
a connection?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Like you need more?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I just we're at this tip like you can't.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Anyone who's not kil And I saw the fifteenth picture
this week, new picture of him hanging out with Jeffrey
Epstein over the weekend, and I said, Caitlin, we got him,
We got we got him.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Some questions.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
We've crossed to the magical threshold that's going to make people, sorry,
start to suspect something might be up with this guy.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Right, I mean, so there's a lot of controversy. I mean,
it's also it could be the recession that shall not
be named, or we'll just keep saying all the numbers
are going down. I don't know payrolls. Yeah, but then
again I did like, we don't know what it is.
But right now he's at forty two percent, and like I.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Just want to say, because he's lower on other poles,
this is a fold that has been like his strong
favor hole and he's dropping like in other polsies in
the mid thirties. This one he was in like the
mid to high forties, and now he's dropped to forty two. Yeah,
every pole is pointing downward.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Everyone, yes, And I think the real the interesting wrinkle is,
like I think it's stand like the people republic registered
Republicans who don't identify as MAGA they are they are
getting lower like that that cohort is becoming less and
less on board with what's happening. But what's interesting is
that the people who have responded to the pole, who
are considered themselves MAGA Republicans, they approved his job performance
(32:31):
at seventy percent. But that's a drop from seventy eight
percent back in April. So that's not a huge that's
not like nothing. And again that doesn't mean like it's over, folks.
But I'm wondering. I'm wondering if it could just be
all of the humans suffering around him that he has
no interest in solving or remedying or is not even
(32:52):
capable of it. But luckily Trump is as sharp as
a wine cork, so he's got to get some action
going on the economy. Me and he said this at
the Christmas I believe it's at the Christmas reception.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
This is just if you didn't know, don't worry. He
didn't know where he was either.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, this is him again being like
God the economy, don't worry though, I got I got
summoned in store, and the specificity of his plan, I
think it should make us all feel much better for
the future.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
To Europe, they went to Mexico, Japan, they went all
of them, they went to South South Korea.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
And now it's.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Just the opposite of they're all coming back.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We're gonna we have an age that's coming.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Up, the likes of which I don't think this country has,
this country has never seen.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I think for worse, not for better, but okay, and.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I just look so forward to the results. You're going
to see results in six months to a year, I
think you'll see results.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We've never had anything like it.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Again, there's never been any country China.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Going just goes. No results like this that you'll see
in six months to a year. Who is he saying
was leaving to go to other countries. They were talking
about just manufacturing and like, yeah, and the other countries
and they're coming back and where the thing he said
an age, This is such like I'm not gonna saw.
This is me in high school, like begging my high
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school girlfriend and not break up with me. I'm like, babe,
the miles you're gonna see after summer breaks is to
twelve months, the likes you've never seen, the way he
will listen to what you have to say, the way
he will be more emotionally present. Oh, I mean, you're
never gonna see something like this.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
But not going forward, not on a go forward basis.
In six to twelve months, I got I need some time, babe,
you need some time to work on myself.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Hey, yeah, they didn't burn Rome down in a day,
you know, or I don't know how that goes, but
but yeah, we're talking six to twelve months. Sure, maybe
he thinks he has that kind of time. But again,
this is we're living in an era where they are
distributing firewood for people whose power has been cut off
to be able to heat their homes because energy costs
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have gone so high, people's wages are down the like
all these other things, and all he can muster up
is like, oh, guys, you're the wait, do you see
this shit I'm about to do with the economy in
six to twelve months.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
But also doesn't help that he's also saying that it's
already awesome, So it doesn't It doesn't like if I
were worried about this economic situation and he was like,
first of all, it already rules. Second of all, it's
gonna rule, I'd be like that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
First of all, maybe we have different definitions of like
how good. No, it rules, it rules, and guess what,
it's gonna rule even harder in about six to twelve months, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Talking exclusively to the ten people left to own companies,
there's the audience here is very narrow. But I can't
help but thinking about campaign trail, Trump, who was already
off his rocker in the second campaign, just liked, you know,
the most recent I'm gonna get in there and two
to three days, I'm gonna fix everything this last guy missed.
(36:16):
I got Ukraine twenty three minutes, the economy sixteen minutes.
I got this.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You're all gonna actually have it on a Google calend
minutes I have the first day on a Google calendar.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And he just holds up like a my first calendar,
a piece of paper like it with Google eyes on it.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
The weather report has like a frownie face rain cloud.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's the longest timeline for a goal I've ever heard
an issue. And I also think he mistook a diagnosis
in terms of like length of life less recent doctor's
visit in six to twelve months, the economy might get better.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
There is a chance there is a chance that could
be terminal. Is just like love that movie.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
The way he's being carefully band aidd and just sort
of led around a white house full of signage to
let him know what room he's walking into at this point,
like we know the characters behind the scenes that are
just let like just pushing at his diapered rear, holding
him in place so that they can just stay behind
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behind the scenes to do what they're saying, like Russwott
is delighted. Stephen Miller's perfectly happer happy to let a
tottering Trump just sort of toddle his way through the
White House, bumping from sign to sign to identify where
the Oval office is. The theory that the ballroom.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
The ballroom is just.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
To keep him busy, Like it's doing two things. It's
distracting an agitated dementia patient and it's allowing him to
recreate an environment that's familiar to him. So should he
live long enough to see the ballroom, it will look
just like Marlago, which he just sort of screams like
he's in all the time.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Sure like that.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, it's giving drunk lucile.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, it's it's also giving parents in the eighties, and
how they would deal with children is go to McDonald's
and put them in the ballroom. Yeah, exactly. Time they're
just like, I don't know, give them a ballroom.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Uh huh, oh, I mean there's there was Kevin Hassett,
who's the Economic Council Director, was on Face the Nation
on Sunday and he was asked directly like Trump's just
kind of like lying about the economy. He's just out
here in Pennsylvania saying like shit's better, but it's.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Better, mons better than anyone has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, and he and he was asked point blank like
like what are you even fucking measuring this off of?
And I think the answer is pretty telling.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
What data is he looking at? What's your benchmark?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Well, one of the things that if you saw his
presentation in Pennsylvania does he put up a bunch of charts,
which he loves to do, where he went through the
individual items that have we've already sort of made a
bunch of progress on and so for example, under Joe Biden,
prescription drugs were up nine percent. So far this year
they're down six ten seven percent. Gasoline is way down.
(39:01):
It was like the highest ever underbid and so on. Yeah,
you're talking about it. And so I think the way
to take about inflation, of course, is that there are
like micro effects.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Like the all that just is what he mentioned were
things that are pretty like meaningless in the grand scheme
of like, that's pretty cherry picked information to cherry picking. Yeah,
there's this one's.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Cheaper than ever. It's never been cheaper than to go
gather fruit from your neighbor's yard to prevent your own starvation.
Never been cheaper to go labor in fields that is,
never been cheaper to hire labors. Oops. Sorry, I wasn't
supposed to say that one.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But yeah, they're coming down. They're coming down, and it's
stuff we've made progress on already. Is like I think again,
not anything new, nothing you're going to do in the future,
just dumb talking points where you're like, I don't know. Incidentally, comparatively,
this price came down, so we're gonna go ahead and
say we're we're doing we're.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Doing shit, as he pointed out the price parmace oticles
has come down six tons of percent.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Damn, we're hanging our hat on six tons of a percent.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Printing petties anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
How are we.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Supposed to get changed for that?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
It is wild?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
How I like, I really get the sense that everybody
behind the scenes talks about him like a toddler, like
he was. She was like he mentioned eggs. He was like, yeah, yeah,
he mentioned Like that's apparent, talking about the child's weird
obsession with.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
Like like turtles, Yeah, he loves turtles. Little fucker loves turtles.
I mean they asked about like turtles. Yeah, he loves
The president loves turtles, doesn't It is.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Going to be I think increasingly like an unprecedented you
know what, what would Reagan's second term have looked like
if nobody could tell him, no, you're not allowed out
in the public eye and he was just like, yeah,
I'm actually a fucking genius. Everything that comes out of
here is motherfucking bars.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Homie, Yeah, Mint, that mitt, that ship, that's right, that shit.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I mean, briefly, those pictures came out ninety out of
ninety five. The Trump administration again went with cherry picking,
which they were like, you guys are just cherry picking
pictures of me with a child trafficker? What about all
the times I didn't hang out with him? Why aren't
you releasing photos of those?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Because your daughter is still getting groped in those photos,
and you're still surrounded by fifteen year olds in your
beauty Patchet, Like, it's harder to pick photos in which
you do not look like a leccherous monster.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Eighty seven of ninety is what I went in those pictures.
Eighty seven of those I wasn't in. It's like an
you know, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Pretty good, pretty good I'd have to say.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
The thing that you were just playing where he was
talking about the economy and how it's going to be
so good in a year that came from his like
Christmas reception that happened over the weekend. First of all,
he was like sweating profusely, which I'll know man like
he he usually is pretty dry, so he's really kind
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of all over the place. It's the water he can't
really he's just splashing it in his face, drinking problem.
But he ended up spending forty minutes talking about venomous snakes.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You want to hear old on let's let's let's not.
Let's hear he might have said something cool at a
Green Miss reception in some respects it's cool.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Yeah in uh Peru and.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
You're you're Christmas Ross. Okay, going, what about Peruser.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
And it's known for being a rather rough place in
terms of physical creatures scrolling around. Twenty eight thousand people
die a year from a stake by a certain snake.
It's a viper, right, It's said to be the most
poisonous snake in the world.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Okay, Ian, he sounds like he's about to fall asleep,
Like imagine being there dude, his room.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
He's drowning in his own mind, and he's grasping at
things that seem tangentially connected to what he's talking about
to seem like he's got it together. Like he's like
he knew he had something to say about Peru, and
then he's just rattle off with them, like the viper
does not cause the most deaths, Like come on now,
like you can, you can look this up, but anyway, sure,
(43:28):
or maybe you're talking about specifically summer, but I don't
fucking know. But that's his whole Like why be like
that's known for some snakes? Huh?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
The stage of life is usually limited to your family
or during care careers, where yeah, like you're just getting
driven to your next MRI and whatever kind soul in
your life is still able or willing to drive you
just sits there and goes there are a lot of
snakes in Peru, Grandpa, And like, none of this is
based in any kind of We've all known that, Grandpa.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You don't talk.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Christmas dinner isn't spitting facts. Grandpa talking at Christmas dinner
is just remembering a dream he had about snakes in
a place he decided was Peru.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
It's it's using people with other family members. Yeah, like
be like George, George, is that you, which also happened
immediately after that. I do just want to play this
clip where he stops his speech to talk about how
he keeps confusing someone in the crowd with Ivanka, like
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it's so wild.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
And then he's like, look, turn turn around. Let everybody
see how he said turn around for the cameras, like
it was a fucking beauty path. Whatever, here we go.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
This is the most interesting story.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
What do you look like Evanka? Has anyone ever told
you that?
Speaker 5 (44:44):
I'm looking I'm saying, could you just turn around for
the camera?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Does she look?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Does she look like Evanka? It's the most unbelievable thing.
So I wouldn't. I didn't want to take a chance.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
I say, is that Evodka?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You look just like Evanka?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Which is a great looks just like, Sirchabaka, do you want
to take a chance? Did he mean that he like
didn't want to call out in case it was in
case it was Ivanka, in case it was that's your daughter?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Around the White House? Just being like Jared, you know
it's Stephen Miller.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Is your second minute, they don't talk to you anymore.
Are you?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Roots just get screened at. Yes.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Again, like this obsession with we we see this and
at the end of Magnolia with old people dying. We
see it in all sorts of movies where they're like,
I've made some mistakes. Go bring my son home so
that I can speak to him. He also spent so
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from his thing about snakes being deadly in Peru, he
then talked about how nature always wins. He then talked
about how when he dies, his son Donald Trump Junior
is not going to spend much time there because he
always likes to.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Go out and hunt.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
And but then was like, maybe he shouldn't be because nature.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Nature always wins. Baby, Yeah, he said, when I kicked
the bucket, someday, someday, I figure, I think he'll be
here for about two days. He'll go and pay his respects,
and they'll say, where's don he'd rather be. He won't
jungle won't be there from and he's a really good hunter.
But remember this, wildlife always wins. Unfortunately in this case,
so your son hates you so much he'd rather be
(46:39):
outside killing it.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
And then you implied that by missing your funeral to
go hunt animals, he will then be killed. Like he's like, right,
isn't that what he's like?
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I never know.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Remember this, wildlife always wins, unfortunately in this case.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Or in this case, it means that wildlife will always
his son will always prioritize not being around him in
favorable wildlife.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, that's yes. In the room, skirt is not here.
Rather shoot an endangered animal than be in the same
space with you, Like, that's.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, because he can at least do cocaine on his
hunting trips without being in bare Like he's like, it's
going to be really hard to be snorting coke at
the whole.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
I do that he's a good hunter, Like he pays
to have good hunters take him out and tell him
where to point his high powered rifle to kill things.
Have no idea how they.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Capture a rhinoceros and put it in a steel box
with a hole in it right where its head is,
and they say, yeah, go ahead's put your gun in
the hole and pull the trigger, and they go, good shot, sir,
you got it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I have always had trouble humanizing Trump in anyway. He's
a very easy figure to just sort of viscerally hate,
but he is not planning this anymore. Like when Trump's
like narcissism and hemania was at the wheel and driving,
it was much harder to humanize him. But he he
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is deep in a cognitive decline and is no longer
his hands can't even find the steering wheel. We watched
him try to flip a coin. So he's in a
Christmas trying to celebrate Christmas and asking for his daughter
and aware that the son will not warn him, like.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Just Christmas, very good Christmas passed all the way down.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
The well of empathy here is shallow, but like what
we're watching is a deep decline, and it is like
all the best you can hope for at this phase
of your life is that your family is in the
room and does care for you, and they do not.
They are not there.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean it sounds like, yeah, it's playing out just
as American as possible too, where it's just like yeah,
and you know what, dude, fuck you man, We're going
to inherit your money and then you could just go here.
But I think that the hard part too is like
just like with my own in my own family, just
having like family members have dementia and things like. The
thing that really freaks me out is that, like he's
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in power. As all of this is melting away, a sign.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Has to point him to the office his administration is
in power. Yeah, it's like using the contents of his
dipe to draw a new image of a dangerous snake
that he says it's from Peru. Like he's not in
the building anymore.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's fucking frightening. It's frightening.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk about the new Animal Farm movie.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
We'll be right that and we're back. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
And our writer JM poses the question, does George Orwell's
Animal Farm have the most cursed cinematic history of any
literary word? And it's out And I didn't realize this.
The nineteen fifty four animated version was secretly made by
the CIA. They bought the rights from Orwell's widow right
(50:10):
after his death, turned it into Cold War propaganda, and
changed the ending so that the animals revolt against their
pigs in the end, rather than accepting the yoke of
more authoritarianism. George Orwell also was a democratic socialist, so
it was not like he was against authoritarianism. But then
(50:32):
there was a Hallmark version in nineteen ninety nine which
used Henson Shop creations featured Kelsey Grammer not as doctor
Fraser Crane, a voice Snowball. And now the trailer just
dropped for the new CGI movie, directed by Andy serkis
from I thought it like it has illumination, he vibes,
but maybe it's not illumination, but it looks we So
(50:58):
it features the voice of Seth again. Should we just
watch it really quick? Yeah, let's let's watch a couple
then we can.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Talk about it on the other side. Let's just do it.
Can a cautionary tea feel good? Okay?
Speaker 3 (51:11):
All right, we've just watched the trailer. Everyone's feeling a
little under the weather.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Wow, that's interesting because the producer Catherine asks a very
important question. Why are all the animals face tuned? They
all look like they're through the filter of like did
you clock at the beginning? Said Angel, that's the memes
you did the Sound of Freedom, like the faith based
Utah production company. Yep, they're back, baby, So they're going
(51:43):
to be really they're really going to.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Be doing a true to Orwell's vision depiction of what
the message of this book, you.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Think, Yeah, and then pointing out like having an external
villain who corrupts the pig also kind of misses the point,
which is obviously the like power corrupt. And they're like, well,
not unless you have like somebody from the outside coming
in and like tricking you into doing it, because Seth
Rogan's character doesn't want to actually like be a bad guy, right,
(52:13):
So we're gonna have it be some external force and
it's gonna be said in the future for some reason,
like giving sort of I mean, it doesn't seem like
it's in the future until it like suddenly cuts to
an illumination scene like a scene from Blade Runner twenty
forty two as illustrated by illumination, and then you're like, oh,
(52:36):
I guess this is the future, right right?
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Oh man, Well that's that's uh. I have really trying
to understand how how they sort of tie this up.
I guess maybe that's how they conveniently sort of sidestep
the story to be like, well, if it wasn't for
this lady, like then Seth Rogan wouldn't have gone astray.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, I think that's probably right. People are like, how
how do you turn? So the right is also mad? No,
nobody seems to be psyched psyched about this one because
the right has always been like, this is about how
the left is bad, because it's like an allegory for
the Russian Revolution, and it's just like or it's about
(53:20):
how power corrupts.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Nah, I can't be that can't be that. I don't
think so, because I don't. I don't see any real
example of that. Huh, I wonder what the fuck that is.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
It feels like this movie costs four hundred million dollars
to make.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, well, those movies we'll find out soon enough. Yeah,
the illumination animation movie has always cost a shocking a
shockingly high amount of money.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
This is by illumination. I don't know if it is,
but it looks like it is. You know, it's a.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Musical choice if you if you ask me to describe
the feeling of Animal Fall and pick a song, it's
not gonna be feel it still like, it's not gonna
be a pop It's like.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
I think, yeah, well, I think that's where you know
what the gist of the film is gonna be. To
have it sort of come because like the real version
it would have been dark as fuck, you know what
I mean, And you're like, yo, this looks interesting. But
I think somehow they're like, well, look it'll be talking
animals and we'll take this story about authoritarianism and just
like there's there'll be lambeaus and shit for kids to
(54:31):
laugh at, and yeah, great, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
The whole message of Animal Farm is the totalitarian pigs
eventually become monsters because they become indistinguishable from the human capitalists.
And the last, literally the last line of the book
is the source of the trouble appeared to be that
Napoleon and mister Pilkington had each played an ace of
spades simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all like,
no question, now, no question, now? What had happened to
the faces of the pigs? The creatures outside looked from
pig to man, and from man to pig, and from
pig to man again. But already it was impossible to
say which was.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Which right, right? George Orwell, who fought.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Fascists in the Spanish Civil War, Uh, it would would
have loved that I mean I think he would have.
There is a part where it cuts to from the
visionary George Orwell, and it's written in like chalk.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, oh my god, it's as in.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
His work can be easily erased. So I suppose that's a.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
That's right, I like chalk.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
Anyways, I can't wait to see that one can Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Taking my kids opening opening day, Jack, We're going children
in tow like gaze upon this masterpiece.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Be the most annoying people in the theory, Like the
fuck is this?
Speaker 4 (55:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
No, not that, Nope, that was wrong. Sorry, sorry, yep,
this is going to be a bit of an annotated screening. Guys, Caitlin,
such a pleasure having you as always on the Daily Zekeeist.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Always a genuine treat, gentlemen, Thank.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
You, people find you, follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Jtree astronomy dot com and at Jtree Astronomy Astronomy. Easy
for me to say on Instagram Tree as well. Uh,
come see the stars with me anytime you like, if
you want to follow me personally, I am on Instagram
as as Caitlin is.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
Tall, there you go, because I'm tall.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Oh yeah, that's the thing. I'm pretty all right.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
I owe you money, Jack. Is there a work of
media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I enjoyed the work of stalking the Capitol online. I
bet he's come up before.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
But there's an account that financially ranks by algorithm the
representatives and our our Congress, and I find the work
to be satisfying and enjoyable. It's like lo fi takedown.
It is a and if you want to if you're
a Democrat who feels like your party is corrupted, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
It is.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
It's nice to see actual numbers.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, right home represent Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Amazingius the perpetual stew, but that's a different side of
the internet.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Who'sus the perpetual stew?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Uh? Yeah, there is a somebody has a perpetual stew going,
which is a stuw that always stays you just had
new ingredients in daily he offers a ranking of that
day's stew. So if you feel sickened by stocking the Capitol,
which is justifiable, you can go feel sick or still
by watching a guy add weird things to a stew.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
And there might be stuff. There might be ingredients in
there from hundreds of days ago.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Dock you strain it every now and again. But yeah,
the stock is now something like two hundred and twenty
days old.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Oh so it's like a stew of theseus kind of
thing too. We're kind of wow, Okay.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
That's a classic. That's an old school thing, is we
an eating establishment would just always have a fire burning
with a pot on it and would just serve you
from that because it's hot. It never it can stay
there forever.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Right, because I've seen this, because like in Asia, there's
very similar things too, Like this dude's been going for
seventy years.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
And it's delicious, wonderful. Miles Where can people find you
as their work and media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Uh yeah, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.
You can also find me talking about soccer football on
the new podcast Ain't at Footy, where myself, Jamel Johnson
and Chris Martin not from Coldplay talk about everything happening
in European soccer and also still talking about ninety day
on four to twenty Day Fiance. A work of media.
(58:46):
I like, what did I Oh? I've just been watching
that fucking documentary, the Puffet Eddy documentary, because it's fucking
it's fucking out there. Uh, it's it's definitely. I think
also just as like somebody who grew up in la
and when Tupac was killed and being like, what the
fuck is going on and then just have a document
call and be like it was him, guys, feels very
(59:09):
aggressive or the implication of it feels like that. And
then also I was just watching, Oh, I just saw
Ja Kelly over the weekend and that was, Yeah, all right,
our year end.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
But we're doing our preparations for Annajos Nias Prestige casting. Yeah,
we've been given our homework yep, and we're each doing
our best to get through some of them.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
But Jake Kelly was fun. I also watched Jake Kelly.
Yeah it was good cast. Yeah, good Blockbuster cast and
some really I've Yeah, I don't know how I feel
about like Noah Bombacks directing just generally, but yeah, who's enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Sure. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore,
Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob the number one like
to tweet speaking of your end lists. C J.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Prince tweeted.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
For the fifteenth year in a row, the Boston Society
of Film Critics has given Best picture to Ben Afflex
the Town. You can find us on Twitter and Blue
Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
You can go to the description of this episode wherever
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you're listening to it, and there at the bottom you
will find the footnotes, which is where we link off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you
think that people might end.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I think just generally people are listening to all
kinds of holiday music. On the Trending episode, Jack and
I were talking about, like just listen to the same
forty songs over and over, but sometimes others there's other
kinds of music that still make it feel like it's
winter that you want to be cozy. I think classic
jazz is one of those textures that is perfect a
(01:00:49):
case in point Oscar the Oscar Peterson Trio t for
two great song to have on just this entire album,
The Mercury Complete Mercury Cleff Recordings of the Oscar Peterson Trio.
He's a fantastic piano player from Canada, a so he's
bringing that he's bringing that great, great North uh frigid
energy to his piano playing. But anyway, this is a
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great track t for two Oscar Peterson trio.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
See you can do a lot with your fingers even
when it's cold.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Mister President, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
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and we will talk to y'all then bye bye.
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The Daily Zeite Guys is executive produced by Catherine Long.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Co produced by Bee Wang.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Co produced by Victor Wright, co written by J M mcnapp,
Edited and engineered by Justin Connor.
Oh shoot, I have to click the buttons and then
you can hear me go monomena button phenomena.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well that's a wait, what's that you got? Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I thought I was hearing my own echo, but was
just perfectly on beat. Isn't it the Muppets theme?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Monomena penomena, it's the Muppets. It's the Muppets. I think
I knew it mostly from all right. I first remember
it vividly from like the Ricky Gervais's office where there's
like a scene where they can't stop fucking doing it.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It's hard to stop. Once you start, it's going to
be happening for the Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's the penomena of it all that really, it really is.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
But the monomena of it all, something like a monomena?
How did they not do that?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Call weird?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
What's it? Wait? So that is the Muppets. That's the
Muppet The Muppet.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Show the original did a cover.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh cake, my favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's on B sides and verities.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Man nomena ma na ma nah. Do we know what
it's called? Monomena a h n a? Oh, it's mona
mana mana, it's machna if we're going with the correct pronunciation.
Give a little, a little flavor on that. The song
(01:50):
by Piero Umilani. Yeah, it started. It was by an
Italian composer and the fucking muppets and the muppets, a
bunch of muppets just mighte have sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And here I am giving them up. It's full credit.
Of course it has a coin. I mean fine Piero
Umiliani erasure.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I mean the way it's spelled to it feels like
it was a like He's like, this track is called Manna, Manna,
and then then it becomes old.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
He seems like an Italian person trying to teach people
how to say Italian words mana mana, mana Miliani. Hello
the Internet, and welcome to season four, nineteen, Episode two.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Of DURDAILYSI Guys.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, it was a production of iHeartRadio as a podcast
where we take a deep dive into americans shared consciousness
through the day's news. We also have a new weekly
history version of the show dropping each Monday morning, where
we do a deep dive into the history of a
different icon. We've done this Piggy with Jamie Loftus, Arnold
Schwartzenegger with John Gabris and yesterday we covered the most
(03:01):
famous person on the planet, Santa Laus Santaus cows with
Blake Wexler. Look for the episodes on Monday with icon
in the title. It is Tuesday, December sixteenth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, oh man, we know that is welcome to the
National Day. Here are your national days and totally paid
for by interest groups who wanted access to this county.
You think there's anyone.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Who visits that website as much as you I know there,
I would depress me if that if there were.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I think single handedly the people who run there like man,
they are loved. There's just one person in la who
is loving it. Five days a week there on it.
Some kinds gets nothing to live for. This guy's a
piece of shit. Man just puts weird stuff in there.
That's made up. It's actually National Chocolate Covered Anything Day.
So look, if you like it covered in chocolate, it's
(03:51):
your day. This one is interesting. It's Barbie and Barney
Backlash Day. This is an official day nine days out
from Christmas and it's Barbie and Barney Bloclast allows parents
to take a vacation from all the repetitive sing alongs
and storytelling.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
By backlashing, by losing control of your emotions around your children.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
The day permits parents to turn off the annoying cartoons
and songs and scream app Parents may insist on a
different book to read at bedtime, put away the noisy toys.
If you dare a child, what child development was?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
That man.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Freed them like pets and you rub your nose, rub
their nose in it. That's how they learn. That's my day.
This is my day to tell you how much I
fucking hate Barney. No, it's Barney and Barbie backlash. This
stuff is bullshit.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
You throw it out the window, and being mad at
Barney is the coolest take that you can have.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, good, Yeah, good work.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Anybody who celebrates.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm not gonna yuck your home, but come on, find
a new angle. It's a normal collar. Find a new angle.
My name is Jack O'Brien a. You're so cringe. That's
what the older girls say about you. You're so cringe
that we go to see a snarfil on the discord,
in reference to an older kid explaining what cringe means
(05:15):
to my nine year old that I've ever heard and
how I was like, that's a little cringe, and they
were like, wait, what what does that mean. They're like, oh,
it's like a thing that older girls say about you,
if they think what you're doing isn't cool.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I love that, just like that pure child distillation of like, yeah,
it's thing girls say when they not like you. Oh cringe, Yes, indeed.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Anyways, shout out to Snarfula on the discord. I'm thrilled
to be joined, as always by my co host, mister
Miles Grat.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancersham, the coughing Cabaletro
because I'm back from illness, uh and just lightly coughing
now and rising out of a coffin. Yes, exactly, here
I am, and I've come to ink your blood.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
We're thrilled to have you here, mine, and we're thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious
stand up comedian, comedy writer, actor, fashion icon. You can
go gaze at the stars with them in the desert.
It's one of our all time favorite TDZ guests is Caitlin.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Stately genuinely excited to cover Barbie and chocolate and devour
it today.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I think that's it's cover anything anything covered in chocolate.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I think the open doors they did not anticipate with the.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, I think it's uh yeah, it would be fun
if they're like, hey, go wild, like even putt non
food stuff, dip it in chocolate, do it. Let's just
have it anything.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Everything is so mindy like soap, like everything is so
like is boring. They're like, try these like bananas. Wait,
what the cookies? It says cookies.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
What the wait? When you said anything, you really meant anything? Okay,
and cookies.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We're international biscotti. Ever seen biscotti dipped in chocolate? I
never have, but it is today? What is nineteen ninety two? Nugat?
I don't know, man, we're going crazy over here.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Nugat, cherries, ice cream Sunday No yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, how do I know?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
They already did it to bacon? Ok the Internet and
bacon culture together the most I think the most out
there thing on this list is ritz crackers. Honestly, I'm
on board.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I'm not saying I wouldn't eat all these things.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
I'm just saying, but everything else is things that are
normally or you've seen like covered in or with chocolate,
marshmallows or fudge. Is it fudge? Yeah? Think about that, dude,
cover fudge and what about crazy? What about child flip budge?
Covered in? You never had those tastes before.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's the level of imagination you're working with with the
cover anything in chocolate day, people, you can do fucking anything.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Fruit, fruit, chocolate, could what else? Marshmallow?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Literally anything your heart desires. Caitlin, We're thrilled to have
you back joining us from the desert. We're gonna get
to know you a little bit better in the moment. First,
we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. One thing that happened over the weekend is
Donald Trump tried to toss a coin and did so
like an alien.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
No, I hast it. They said they've never seen someone
like That's so good. No, I think you're right, sir.
Many people did say I've never seen a coin.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Tossed like that before, like almost as if he thought
the point was to not have it turn over in
the air like he like he was tossing a pizza,
you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, doesn't.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It feel like how he would toss a coin though, yeah, yeah, right,
call it first, and then he makes his call and
then desperately tries to make the coin just levitate and
land again without alternate.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
His control all outcomes so that they benefit him.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
His hand shape was sort of like the the is
this a pigeon meme where it's like, it's like from
the anime, you know what I mean, and the guy's like,
is this pig? Is this butterfly? Was like, is this
coin to us? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Uh So we'll talk about that, We'll talk about his
relatively bad approval rating, We'll talk about all those pictures
that dropped of just everybody. People were just like, let
me get let me get let me snap a few
with with Jeffrey Epstein in here real quick. Let's let's
get some group picks, guys. Like, this is before digital.
(09:51):
This was like back when people were didn't take that
many pictures, except except if you were wealthy and in
the orbit of Jeffrey Epstein, in which case you were,
you're as many picture as you possibly could.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, I think the pictures were common, But I think
it's one of those things too, where because physical media
was sort of like and that's in a book that
probably got lost in a dumpster somewhere versus like our
digital era. Everything's like that all at once.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We'll talk about that, We'll talk about his weird Christmas speech.
We'll talk about the new animal Farm, Animal Farm getting
the Mingian's treatment Baby, We'll talk about the history of
adapting that book and what it's looking like this one's
going to be. And we'll talk about the Home Alone House,
which is being unrenovated to look like the Home Alone
(10:40):
House once again. All of that plenty more. But first, Caitlin,
we do like to ask our guest, what is something
from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Very typically this week I searched the term space potatoes.
It is a term used to reference objects that are
not large enough ms to become round in space, and
I wanted to figure out how formalize this term as
because it's sort of a nickname for these objects. As
it turns out, I thought it might have there are
some sort of frivolous terms in astronomy that get stuck
(11:12):
pretty hard and become more official. Space potatoes more of
a dake name for these objects that retain sort of
an odd or lumpy shape. But in my search I
learned that the Fishercats out of New Hampshire, I want
to say double A baseball team did play as the
Space Potatoes for a few games, and I hope that
(11:33):
that returns again next year. They did three nights in
twenty twenty five as the Space Potatoes. The logo is sick.
The merch sold out super fast, But in trying to
learn how formal a name Space Potatoes was, I learned
that it was really only formal for a New Hampshire
Double A baseball team for three games this year. Still
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a good nickname those objects that are not large enough
to round out.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The logo is a wild because it's like it's like
an angry potato, either resisting being beamed up from a
spaceship or getting sent down. And it's like got a
baseball bat, and I'm like, I'm gonna fuck all of
you earthlings up right now.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna beat every earthling at baseball.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Does seem like it's got flame coming off the top
of his head, so it does seem like it's coming
at us as if it was sent by angry aliens.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Right right. Yeah. I was like, yeah, Space potato. I
was like, oh God, in the era of internet lingo,
I'm like, who is it?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
What do we call directions? But it is not a
chocolate covered potato. It is something that is not big
enough to get round in space.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Like a thing a boomer would call someone who like
asks a weird trippy question and potato potatoes over here.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Or maybe that astronaut Scott Kelly if there's like anti
Irish sentiment potato.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So I didn't, I guess I hadn't really thought about
the fact that it's the planets round because closer a
lot of gravity, so a lot of mass, a lot
of gravity, so everything gets pulling in, pull them in together.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Gravity works from the center out, so as your mass increases,
it depends on what you're made of, so there's not
a specific tipping point, but depending on what accretes together,
what globs together to create you a blob in space,
maybe be kind of become a planet. Maybe you're just
an asteroid. That just an asteroid. I'm not trying to,
you know, dismiss the validity.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
By the way, you're a heavenly body.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Gravity works from the center and it's active in all
directions equally, so there's a tipping point in your size
depending on what you're made of, where the force of
the gravity that you have becomes stronger than the material
you're made of. And one that when that happens, gravity
can change the shape of that material. And the most
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natural shaped take if gravity's working from the center equally
in all directions, is a sphere. So things tend to
get rounded out once they have enough mass because of
the effects of gravity.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Are there, like, are there like anomalists small things that
end up getting anomalists?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Are they made of? Is of low density or easily malleable? Essentially,
gravity could round you out and you could be tiny.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I'm just trying to make sure there's there's paths for everyone. Also,
I said that astronaut Scott Kelly, and I was like, wait,
did I say Mark Kelly's name wrong? The senator who's
also a NaSTA guy, because I know identical twin brother.
His identical twin brother is Scott Kelly.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
As have they admitted that or are they just going
around as one person trying to trick everybody. I don't
know who they should do?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like, now we got to catch Mark or so got
forgettable names? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
They're doing a prestige. Yeah, so that I mean that
that goes along with the roundness of the Earth. That
there's that Neil de grass Tyson concept that if you
shrunk our planet down to the size of a cubeball,
but actually be smooth and rounder than a cube ball,
even with like all the mountains and shit like, that's
how how perfectly round the planet Earth is.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
We are pretty round. We do have a little football
e bulge and Neil to grass can he he'll talk
about this tube. But the moon swings around us.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
One thing about.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Him because of the Moon's gravity shifting the center of
our planet back and forth over time as it swings
around us. We have a little bulge. We got a
little football American football.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Wow, yeah, Nucky, Look.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Were that dense then we to be super super smooth.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Could we have laid you down in your crib differently
to not have your head shaped like that as a baby?
Maybe you know what, I still think you're beautiful. I
still think you're beautiful. Uh, Caitlin, what is something you
think is underrated?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, so this has to do with Aaron's I have
to run later today. Underrated is the chaos of Costco's layout.
Common complaint this is body built by Kirkland everybody. I'm
a Costco loyalist. This is what being forty four years
old looks like.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Uh, welcome to the signature family.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Zerra is waiting for you, our darling longer younger listeners.
Embrace this version of yourself as it emerges. But there's
a common complaint that Costco is madness and it's difficult
to find anything. And yes, that is the point. That
is the thrill of the hunt, that is the adventure.
The fact that apples are never in the same place
twice leads you to buycom quots. Just lean into it, right,
(16:33):
So I genuinely enjoy the active, full stroll of Costco.
And maybe it's just me giving in to immovable force,
but I uh are a movable object, irresistible for you
know what I mean. I thoroughly enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a there's so much written about Costco layouts where
it's like it's actually very interesting, it's like very intentional.
If you like, what the.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Fuck is this, there's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
There's three master outs to Costco stores. It's one of them.
Always like, oh Jesus Christ, I don't know. I'm I'm
always just I'm like, damn, there's so much shit in
here's my first slide.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It's the physical algorithm, right, Like, it knows what you're
going to browse for, and it knows exactly how you're
gonna move through the store, and just as you scroll
and it, it creeps into your brain then holds onto
it tight and doesn't release you, allow the the the
planned chaos of Costco to do the same thing, right, right,
give in, don't resist. Yeah, just you know, except that
(17:30):
there's a palett of sweet corn hanging out above the
water pick that you didn't know you're gonna buy, but
your teeth will never feel cleaner.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Right, And then there's I was just reading too, Like
that says well for the more popular items, they are
laid out towards the back, so that means people in
the store encouraged opposite reverse the entire layout, increasing the
likelihood of impulse purchases. I'm like, okay, that's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, last leader Cosco has like flag flagpole loss leaders
like the five dollars rotissory chicken. But the cost of
buying that chicken is that you have to walk by
everything you didn't know you on it, but suddenly desperately do.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Let's see you be, Let's see you stay fucking disciplined
as you watch by.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Did get in line with a full kart of things
that I did not walk in the store to buy,
but did anyway, and was in line behind a gentleman
who had used his scooter to grab a chicken which
now comes in bags. He hung the bag over his
handlebars and just sped right back through the store. And see,
I've never seen someone master that the willpower to connectrol
(18:27):
monk like. I still admire this man and think about
him regularly.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And he ited the minotaur that's throwing around in there too.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, exact, you have to get two men a tars
as something and their package together.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And he was able to solve the three mysteries as well.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I find grocery store laouds super interesting because there will
be this like agreed on wisdom to like how it's
supposed to go, so like humans naturally roam counterclockwise, Like
what if you like put a bunch of humans in
a room, like they just naturally go in that direction.
And so for a long time you always put the
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milk and the produce like right to the right when
you walked in, and like the Kroger family still does that,
and everybody used to do that because like they were
like that's the direction that humans naturally want to go,
Like why fight it, And so they designed it based
around like these natural movements of like humans as herd animal.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And then the.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Trader's Joe and like Whole Foods came in and we're like,
we're gonna do things a little different around here. We're
going to make them go the opposite direction to like
make them, i don't know, feel like they're having a
different shopping experience, and so they went the other direction.
Although Trader Joe's is pretty is kind of in line
with the Costco method of like let's just like kind
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of throw shit everywhere.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
But yeah, there's always strategy of like you put the
milk somewhere that's kind of hard to get to, so
you have to roam through all the displays so that
you like get as many purchase unplanned purchases as people
are making their way through.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I've loved everyone just give in them all.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's right. What are some of the things overrated?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Okay, so frivolous leading to like an honest moral compass
point half billion dollar movies are overrated. I nobody's living
that that We're almost there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I tried to watch the new Mission Impossible and it
was very difficult to watch.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
It's a challenging film. Kaelin is a challenging film, and
I'm glad you brought that up.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Deeply challenging to sit through, and the It is just
my opinion. If you love these, I'm not coming for you.
But when I looked up most expensive films, all of
them are tortuous to me. It is a long list
of like the New Jurassic Parks and the Avengers, and
they just they've all slipped up. They've lost something. You've
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lost something, and having too much is sometimes bad. So
the heartfelt overrated thing is being super rich sucks. Having
enough money is awesome again forty four, it finally happened
to me. I can drive that SUPERU. I do own
a home. Is it a manufactured home? In twenty nine palms.
I don't want to talk about it, but I have
enough money and that is beautiful. Being super rich seems
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horrible and latent. You have to make a series a
cascade of awful decisions, one worse than the next, and
nobody edits you. So no movies. I led to life.
As is so often the case, too much is a
bad thing. You can spend too much money on your
movie and it is awful.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, you start getting studio notes when you get too rich,
you start you got a lot of studio notes coming in.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I feel like everyone's note got into Mission Impossible. I
feel like every single post it that anyone took an
idea down on is physically manifested into film. Just not
they scrapped nothing, they had did nothing. I looked it
up and Broke Back Mountain made the same amount of
money in cash dollars as copt fourteen million to make,
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made something like close to one hundred and seventy million.
Mission Impossible cost roughly four hundred million dollars to make,
made something like five hundred and ninety eight million. So
is it insane that it made that much money. It's
like it had to. The stakes were so high of
what it had to make back, and it did. But
you could have made like twenty eight broke Back Mountains.
It's Broke Back Mountain for everyone. Absolutely not if you
(22:30):
made twenty eight films with fourteen million dollars, would there
be one that everybody enjoys that is actually good?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Probably right, right?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, just in trying to please everyone, they pleased me.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, So if you enjoy these films, I'm really happy
for you. I think on enjoying them. I don't have
to be right about this, but I do feel like
the more expensive the movie is, the more likely I
am to drift away and start imdbing and wikipediaing daring it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's it's I think that's spot on though, because also
I don't know anyone who like earnestly rides for the
Mission Impossible franchise, like I. I watch them all out
of habit or like me, I'm like, if I'm on
an airplane, sure, sure exactly. At the last three or
actually four Mission Possible films have only been seen on
a plane for me, because I'm like, I can't I'm
not going to the theater to see this anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
But I think what I was making this point about
those movies, I might have been on the Hollywood Handbook podcast.
What they were saying that like they can't remember which
of the movies they've seen. Yeah, I think it was
the Hollywood guys, and like, that's my problem with Mission Impossible.
All the movies, they are indistinguishable from one of them. Yeah,
Like I don't remember which one is which, or it's
(23:38):
some weird detail. I'm like, where's the one with Carrie
Russell's weird eye. Okay, yeah, I remember that one right.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
There's the one where Sawyer from Lost gets off in
the first scene. I remember that one. Then there's a
one with Philip Seymour Hoffman. He's too good for this.
That's also a third one with Cary Russell's eye. Oh
my god. Yeah, you've only got one.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I think you've only seen one, but you just don't realize.
There's the jj Abrams mystery Box one. There's the one
where Tom Cruise runs a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
He's on a motorcycle in that one.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, the movie he's underwater for forty minutes. He's in
a plane for forty minutes. He just like, watching a
man who desperately wants to die while making a movie
is becoming difficult.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah. And I think the other part too, is because
like in the nineties, saying something like they spent one
hundred million dollars making this, everyone was like, holy Wow, Yeah,
we gotta see this. James Cameron built a Titanic in Mexico. Yeah,
we're gonna go fucking watch, Like, yeah, I think I'm
gonna go see that one. But I think after I
think we hit the peak after the first Avatar film,
(24:45):
and that was the last time you could be like, guys,
this costs so much fucking money, you have to see it.
And they were like shutting where they kept.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Making avatars and he didn't need to do that. You
didn't know you're gonna have to do that. I just
feel like it's like being super rich or like having
enough money. Having enough money lets you breathe free and clear.
We all know that, Like that's what you're striving for.
You don't want to be super rich, you don't want
to be the Pallenger guys in the middle of like
a Wall Street Journal interview, Like you want to actually
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just be able to breathe and enjoy just enough versus excess.
Is basically what I'm saying. And this was made manifest
by the new mission impossible for me.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I can't wait to see it. What you're gonna have
sell much fun all.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
The other mission impossibles for a story. It doesn't make
sense because it sucks.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
It fucking sucks. I watched it recently on a plane.
I was like, the fuck.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Variety top ten movie of the years movie of the year.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Variety was also like the number ten best grossing. It
costs four hundred million dollars to make and it's number
ten on the top grossing list.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Of this year. Right, Jesus, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Done you screaming like an old woman, but I do
appreciate you allowing me to share this point of view.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
We agree, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll
come back, we'll talk about the dang economy.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
We'll you're right, and we're back.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And a rare moment where the president has put outside
of his comfort zone has to do something that like
he wouldn't normally do and just has to like kind
of improvise on the spot. And that that is tossing
a coin.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Doing the coin toss for the Army Navy football game.
And my god, I just thought, again, this this is
a very odd coin flip. Let's doll you. We'll play
the audio from it and we will watch it for
a second, but like, just know, look it up because
I don't even know how to describe what it is.
It's like whimsical, robotic, and mindless all at the same time.
(27:02):
Yester President, would you do he's got it in his hand,
he says, oh, like a magic trick. Flat. He just
didn't get one of the players. Okay, So that was
I don't know if that was a flip more so
as like letting a carrier pigeon go off into the
sky like and.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Even then it really had that energy.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, not a flip. And I feel like for how like, uh,
you know, like most maga men are and how like
rigid their idea of masculinity is. I don't I can't
imagine any of them watch that and go like, holy shit, dude,
Trump fucking It was just like it was just odd
like it was also I think just also it was
funny because my non like super into politics friends. I mean,
(27:51):
they're into it because like we talk about all the time,
but usually that's not the bulk of our conversations. They
were sending that. They're like, dude, what the fuck is
this coring to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Imagine committing a portion of your life to service, in
addition risking your physical safety to play a game in
honor of the branch of the military, your serve for
the commander in chief, the man in charge of your life,
comes out to toss a coin for you, and he
basically just releases it to the wind with a gentle
(28:23):
touch of his pumpy like and I get it. He's
wearing gloves and he's seventy nine. He simply doesn't have
the motor control anymore to do that. It would have
with all that handshaking, it would have just contributed to
the bruise that we see forming. That's definitely not for
an infusion due to dementia at all.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It might be some coin tossing injuries.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Talking point.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
He was working so hard to aice it for the
Army Navy game that he took himself right out of contection.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Right on the back of the hand where an infusion
port would be. Crazy, crazy fucking coins out of control.
I mean, like again, he did it even flip And
also has he even seen a movie where like a
character like flips a coin all cool? Like, isn't that
some ship from his era? Like people are like she
like flicking a fucking coin up in the air and
be like, Wow, this guy's cool. He's manipulating a coin
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with his hands.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
And it's called flipping a coin like.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sort of a yeah, neat in this instance that he did.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Not seem familiar with when he when he went into it,
as he was executing it. Yeah, it didn't seem to
have much of an idea. It does bring back when
he drank water, we said, we got to see him
drink water and like he had his like two little
dainty like both of his hands were like holding either
side and drank it like a like a squirrel.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Like yeah, or like a mouse, a mouse eating a
rich cracker, just like yeah, yeah, Like how do you
hold a bottle like that?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Okay, I wish I could dip this in chocolate. Yeah,
if that's what he needs to do to drink water,
like do it, that's great.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But you say land shakes might be involved there.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You also don't get to make fun of people who
don't have full lampiatory use of their body if you
have to drink water that way. R Yeah, Well that's
be that guy who's like, yeah, I'm president despite the
fact that I have to use both my hands to
bring a glass to my lips, Like awesome, I'm murder.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You imagine that he's like look, guys, I'll own it.
I'm not as sharp as I used to be, but
that doesn't mean I'm not as dedicated as I've always been.
And people like.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
That was required to mention for Donald Trump level, that's.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What God, who knows what we're in store for as
this because the frequency of the weird o posts increases,
just the behavior, it gets more and more odd, and
we'll get into the Christmas reception you had. But also
the polling right is not improving for Trump. It could
be all the new Epstein photos of them together, or
maybe the you need more?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Why are people like, are we trying to a staph
a connection?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Like you need more?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I just we're at this tip like you can't.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Anyone who's not kil And I saw the fifteenth picture
this week, new picture of him hanging out with Jeffrey
Epstein over the weekend, and I said, Caitlin, we got him,
We got we got him.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Some questions.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
We've crossed to the magical threshold that's going to make people, sorry,
start to suspect something might be up with this guy.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Right, I mean, so there's a lot of controversy. I mean,
it's also it could be the recession that shall not
be named, or we'll just keep saying all the numbers
are going down. I don't know payrolls. Yeah, but then
again I did like, we don't know what it is.
But right now he's at forty two percent, and like I.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Just want to say, because he's lower on other poles,
this is a fold that has been like his strong
favor hole and he's dropping like in other polsies in
the mid thirties. This one he was in like the
mid to high forties, and now he's dropped to forty two. Yeah,
every pole is pointing downward.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Everyone, yes, And I think the real the interesting wrinkle is,
like I think it's stand like the people republic registered
Republicans who don't identify as MAGA they are they are
getting lower like that that cohort is becoming less and
less on board with what's happening. But what's interesting is
that the people who have responded to the pole, who
are considered themselves MAGA Republicans, they approved his job performance
(32:31):
at seventy percent. But that's a drop from seventy eight
percent back in April. So that's not a huge that's
not like nothing. And again that doesn't mean like it's over, folks.
But I'm wondering. I'm wondering if it could just be
all of the humans suffering around him that he has
no interest in solving or remedying or is not even
(32:52):
capable of it. But luckily Trump is as sharp as
a wine cork, so he's got to get some action
going on the economy. Me and he said this at
the Christmas I believe it's at the Christmas reception.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
This is just if you didn't know, don't worry. He
didn't know where he was either.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, this is him again being like
God the economy, don't worry though, I got I got
summoned in store, and the specificity of his plan, I
think it should make us all feel much better for
the future.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
To Europe, they went to Mexico, Japan, they went all
of them, they went to South South Korea.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
And now it's.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Just the opposite of they're all coming back.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
We're gonna we have an age that's coming.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Up, the likes of which I don't think this country has,
this country has never seen.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I think for worse, not for better, but okay, and.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I just look so forward to the results. You're going
to see results in six months to a year, I
think you'll see results.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We've never had anything like it.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
Again, there's never been any country China.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Going just goes. No results like this that you'll see
in six months to a year. Who is he saying
was leaving to go to other countries. They were talking
about just manufacturing and like, yeah, and the other countries
and they're coming back and where the thing he said
an age, This is such like I'm not gonna saw.
This is me in high school, like begging my high
(34:19):
school girlfriend and not break up with me. I'm like, babe,
the miles you're gonna see after summer breaks is to
twelve months, the likes you've never seen, the way he
will listen to what you have to say, the way
he will be more emotionally present. Oh, I mean, you're
never gonna see something like this.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
But not going forward, not on a go forward basis.
In six to twelve months, I got I need some time, babe,
you need some time to work on myself.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Hey, yeah, they didn't burn Rome down in a day,
you know, or I don't know how that goes, but
but yeah, we're talking six to twelve months. Sure, maybe
he thinks he has that kind of time. But again,
this is we're living in an era where they are
distributing firewood for people whose power has been cut off
to be able to heat their homes because energy costs
(35:11):
have gone so high, people's wages are down the like
all these other things, and all he can muster up
is like, oh, guys, you're the wait, do you see
this shit I'm about to do with the economy in
six to twelve months.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
But also doesn't help that he's also saying that it's
already awesome, So it doesn't It doesn't like if I
were worried about this economic situation and he was like,
first of all, it already rules. Second of all, it's
gonna rule, I'd be like that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
First of all, maybe we have different definitions of like
how good. No, it rules, it rules, and guess what,
it's gonna rule even harder in about six to twelve months, right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Talking exclusively to the ten people left to own companies,
there's the audience here is very narrow. But I can't
help but thinking about campaign trail, Trump, who was already
off his rocker in the second campaign, just liked, you know,
the most recent I'm gonna get in there and two
to three days, I'm gonna fix everything this last guy missed.
(36:16):
I got Ukraine twenty three minutes, the economy sixteen minutes.
I got this.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You're all gonna actually have it on a Google calend
minutes I have the first day on a Google calendar.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
And he just holds up like a my first calendar,
a piece of paper like it with Google eyes on it.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
The weather report has like a frownie face rain cloud.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's the longest timeline for a goal I've ever heard
an issue. And I also think he mistook a diagnosis
in terms of like length of life less recent doctor's
visit in six to twelve months, the economy might get better.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
There is a chance there is a chance that could
be terminal. Is just like love that movie.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
The way he's being carefully band aidd and just sort
of led around a white house full of signage to
let him know what room he's walking into at this point,
like we know the characters behind the scenes that are
just let like just pushing at his diapered rear, holding
him in place so that they can just stay behind
(37:19):
behind the scenes to do what they're saying, like Russwott
is delighted. Stephen Miller's perfectly happer happy to let a
tottering Trump just sort of toddle his way through the
White House, bumping from sign to sign to identify where
the Oval office is. The theory that the ballroom.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
The ballroom is just.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
To keep him busy, Like it's doing two things. It's
distracting an agitated dementia patient and it's allowing him to
recreate an environment that's familiar to him. So should he
live long enough to see the ballroom, it will look
just like Marlago, which he just sort of screams like
he's in all the time.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Sure like that.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, it's giving drunk lucile.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, it's it's also giving parents in the eighties, and
how they would deal with children is go to McDonald's
and put them in the ballroom. Yeah, exactly. Time they're
just like, I don't know, give them a ballroom.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Uh huh, oh, I mean there's there was Kevin Hassett,
who's the Economic Council Director, was on Face the Nation
on Sunday and he was asked directly like Trump's just
kind of like lying about the economy. He's just out
here in Pennsylvania saying like shit's better, but it's.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Better, mons better than anyone has ever seen.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, and he and he was asked point blank like
like what are you even fucking measuring this off of?
And I think the answer is pretty telling.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
What data is he looking at? What's your benchmark?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (38:38):
Well, one of the things that if you saw his
presentation in Pennsylvania does he put up a bunch of charts,
which he loves to do, where he went through the
individual items that have we've already sort of made a
bunch of progress on and so for example, under Joe Biden,
prescription drugs were up nine percent. So far this year
they're down six ten seven percent. Gasoline is way down.
(39:01):
It was like the highest ever underbid and so on. Yeah,
you're talking about it. And so I think the way
to take about inflation, of course, is that there are
like micro effects.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Like the all that just is what he mentioned were
things that are pretty like meaningless in the grand scheme
of like, that's pretty cherry picked information to cherry picking. Yeah,
there's this one's.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Cheaper than ever. It's never been cheaper than to go
gather fruit from your neighbor's yard to prevent your own starvation.
Never been cheaper to go labor in fields that is,
never been cheaper to hire labors. Oops. Sorry, I wasn't
supposed to say that one.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
But yeah, they're coming down. They're coming down, and it's
stuff we've made progress on already. Is like I think again,
not anything new, nothing you're going to do in the future,
just dumb talking points where you're like, I don't know. Incidentally, comparatively,
this price came down, so we're gonna go ahead and
say we're we're doing we're.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Doing shit, as he pointed out the price parmace oticles
has come down six tons of percent.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Damn, we're hanging our hat on six tons of a percent.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Printing petties anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
How are we.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Supposed to get changed for that?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
It is wild?
Speaker 3 (40:12):
How I like, I really get the sense that everybody
behind the scenes talks about him like a toddler, like
he was. She was like he mentioned eggs. He was like, yeah, yeah,
he mentioned Like that's apparent, talking about the child's weird
obsession with.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
Like like turtles, Yeah, he loves turtles. Little fucker loves turtles.
I mean they asked about like turtles. Yeah, he loves
The president loves turtles, doesn't It is.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Going to be I think increasingly like an unprecedented you
know what, what would Reagan's second term have looked like
if nobody could tell him, no, you're not allowed out
in the public eye and he was just like, yeah,
I'm actually a fucking genius. Everything that comes out of
here is motherfucking bars.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Homie, Yeah, Mint, that mitt, that ship, that's right, that shit.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I mean, briefly, those pictures came out ninety out of
ninety five. The Trump administration again went with cherry picking,
which they were like, you guys are just cherry picking
pictures of me with a child trafficker? What about all
the times I didn't hang out with him? Why aren't
you releasing photos of those?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Because your daughter is still getting groped in those photos,
and you're still surrounded by fifteen year olds in your
beauty Patchet, Like, it's harder to pick photos in which
you do not look like a leccherous monster.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Eighty seven of ninety is what I went in those pictures.
Eighty seven of those I wasn't in. It's like an
you know, let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Pretty good, pretty good I'd have to say.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
The thing that you were just playing where he was
talking about the economy and how it's going to be
so good in a year that came from his like
Christmas reception that happened over the weekend. First of all,
he was like sweating profusely, which I'll know man like
he he usually is pretty dry, so he's really kind
(42:05):
of all over the place. It's the water he can't
really he's just splashing it in his face, drinking problem.
But he ended up spending forty minutes talking about venomous snakes.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
You want to hear old on let's let's let's not.
Let's hear he might have said something cool at a
Green Miss reception in some respects it's cool.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Yeah in uh Peru and.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
You're you're Christmas Ross. Okay, going, what about Peruser.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
And it's known for being a rather rough place in
terms of physical creatures scrolling around. Twenty eight thousand people
die a year from a stake by a certain snake.
It's a viper, right, It's said to be the most
poisonous snake in the world.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Okay, Ian, he sounds like he's about to fall asleep,
Like imagine being there dude, his room.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
He's drowning in his own mind, and he's grasping at
things that seem tangentially connected to what he's talking about
to seem like he's got it together. Like he's like
he knew he had something to say about Peru, and
then he's just rattle off with them, like the viper
does not cause the most deaths, Like come on now,
like you can, you can look this up, but anyway, sure,
(43:28):
or maybe you're talking about specifically summer, but I don't
fucking know. But that's his whole Like why be like
that's known for some snakes? Huh?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
The stage of life is usually limited to your family
or during care careers, where yeah, like you're just getting
driven to your next MRI and whatever kind soul in
your life is still able or willing to drive you
just sits there and goes there are a lot of
snakes in Peru, Grandpa, And like, none of this is
based in any kind of We've all known that, Grandpa.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You don't talk.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Christmas dinner isn't spitting facts. Grandpa talking at Christmas dinner
is just remembering a dream he had about snakes in
a place he decided was Peru.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
It's it's using people with other family members. Yeah, like
be like George, George, is that you, which also happened
immediately after that. I do just want to play this
clip where he stops his speech to talk about how
he keeps confusing someone in the crowd with Ivanka, like
(44:29):
it's so wild.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
And then he's like, look, turn turn around. Let everybody
see how he said turn around for the cameras, like
it was a fucking beauty path. Whatever, here we go.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
This is the most interesting story.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
What do you look like Evanka? Has anyone ever told
you that?
Speaker 5 (44:44):
I'm looking I'm saying, could you just turn around for
the camera?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Does she look?
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Does she look like Evanka? It's the most unbelievable thing.
So I wouldn't. I didn't want to take a chance.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
I say, is that Evodka?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
You look just like Evanka?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Which is a great looks just like, Sirchabaka, do you want
to take a chance? Did he mean that he like
didn't want to call out in case it was in
case it was Ivanka, in case it was that's your daughter?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Around the White House? Just being like Jared, you know
it's Stephen Miller.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Is your second minute, they don't talk to you anymore.
Are you?
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Roots just get screened at. Yes.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Again, like this obsession with we we see this and
at the end of Magnolia with old people dying. We
see it in all sorts of movies where they're like,
I've made some mistakes. Go bring my son home so
that I can speak to him. He also spent so
(45:55):
from his thing about snakes being deadly in Peru, he
then talked about how nature always wins. He then talked
about how when he dies, his son Donald Trump Junior
is not going to spend much time there because he
always likes to.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Go out and hunt.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
And but then was like, maybe he shouldn't be because nature.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Nature always wins. Baby, Yeah, he said, when I kicked
the bucket, someday, someday, I figure, I think he'll be
here for about two days. He'll go and pay his respects,
and they'll say, where's don he'd rather be. He won't
jungle won't be there from and he's a really good hunter.
But remember this, wildlife always wins. Unfortunately in this case,
so your son hates you so much he'd rather be
(46:39):
outside killing it.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
And then you implied that by missing your funeral to
go hunt animals, he will then be killed. Like he's like, right,
isn't that what he's like?
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I never know.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Remember this, wildlife always wins, unfortunately in this case.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Or in this case, it means that wildlife will always
his son will always prioritize not being around him in
favorable wildlife.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, that's yes. In the room, skirt is not here.
Rather shoot an endangered animal than be in the same
space with you, Like, that's.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Yeah, because he can at least do cocaine on his
hunting trips without being in bare Like he's like, it's
going to be really hard to be snorting coke at
the whole.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
I do that he's a good hunter, Like he pays
to have good hunters take him out and tell him
where to point his high powered rifle to kill things.
Have no idea how they.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Capture a rhinoceros and put it in a steel box
with a hole in it right where its head is,
and they say, yeah, go ahead's put your gun in
the hole and pull the trigger, and they go, good shot, sir,
you got it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I have always had trouble humanizing Trump in anyway. He's
a very easy figure to just sort of viscerally hate,
but he is not planning this anymore. Like when Trump's
like narcissism and hemania was at the wheel and driving,
it was much harder to humanize him. But he he
(48:07):
is deep in a cognitive decline and is no longer
his hands can't even find the steering wheel. We watched
him try to flip a coin. So he's in a
Christmas trying to celebrate Christmas and asking for his daughter
and aware that the son will not warn him, like.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Just Christmas, very good Christmas passed all the way down.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
The well of empathy here is shallow, but like what
we're watching is a deep decline, and it is like
all the best you can hope for at this phase
of your life is that your family is in the
room and does care for you, and they do not.
They are not there.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
I mean it sounds like, yeah, it's playing out just
as American as possible too, where it's just like yeah,
and you know what, dude, fuck you man, We're going
to inherit your money and then you could just go here.
But I think that the hard part too is like
just like with my own in my own family, just
having like family members have dementia and things like. The
thing that really freaks me out is that, like he's
(49:08):
in power. As all of this is melting away, a sign.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
Has to point him to the office his administration is
in power. Yeah, it's like using the contents of his
dipe to draw a new image of a dangerous snake
that he says it's from Peru. Like he's not in
the building anymore.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's fucking frightening. It's frightening.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk about the new Animal Farm movie.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
We'll be right that and we're back. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
And our writer JM poses the question, does George Orwell's
Animal Farm have the most cursed cinematic history of any
literary word? And it's out And I didn't realize this.
The nineteen fifty four animated version was secretly made by
the CIA. They bought the rights from Orwell's widow right
(50:10):
after his death, turned it into Cold War propaganda, and
changed the ending so that the animals revolt against their
pigs in the end, rather than accepting the yoke of
more authoritarianism. George Orwell also was a democratic socialist, so
it was not like he was against authoritarianism. But then
(50:32):
there was a Hallmark version in nineteen ninety nine which
used Henson Shop creations featured Kelsey Grammer not as doctor
Fraser Crane, a voice Snowball. And now the trailer just
dropped for the new CGI movie, directed by Andy serkis
from I thought it like it has illumination, he vibes,
but maybe it's not illumination, but it looks we So
(50:58):
it features the voice of Seth again. Should we just
watch it really quick? Yeah, let's let's watch a couple
then we can.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
Talk about it on the other side. Let's just do it.
Can a cautionary tea feel good? Okay?
Speaker 3 (51:11):
All right, we've just watched the trailer. Everyone's feeling a
little under the weather.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Wow, that's interesting because the producer Catherine asks a very
important question. Why are all the animals face tuned? They
all look like they're through the filter of like did
you clock at the beginning? Said Angel, that's the memes
you did the Sound of Freedom, like the faith based
Utah production company. Yep, they're back, baby, So they're going
(51:43):
to be really they're really going to.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Be doing a true to Orwell's vision depiction of what
the message of this book, you.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Think, Yeah, and then pointing out like having an external
villain who corrupts the pig also kind of misses the point,
which is obviously the like power corrupt. And they're like, well,
not unless you have like somebody from the outside coming
in and like tricking you into doing it, because Seth
Rogan's character doesn't want to actually like be a bad guy, right,
(52:13):
So we're gonna have it be some external force and
it's gonna be said in the future for some reason,
like giving sort of I mean, it doesn't seem like
it's in the future until it like suddenly cuts to
an illumination scene like a scene from Blade Runner twenty
forty two as illustrated by illumination, and then you're like, oh,
(52:36):
I guess this is the future, right right?
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Oh man, Well that's that's uh. I have really trying
to understand how how they sort of tie this up.
I guess maybe that's how they conveniently sort of sidestep
the story to be like, well, if it wasn't for
this lady, like then Seth Rogan wouldn't have gone astray.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, I think that's probably right. People are like, how
how do you turn? So the right is also mad? No,
nobody seems to be psyched psyched about this one because
the right has always been like, this is about how
the left is bad, because it's like an allegory for
the Russian Revolution, and it's just like or it's about
(53:20):
how power corrupts.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Nah, I can't be that can't be that. I don't
think so, because I don't. I don't see any real
example of that. Huh, I wonder what the fuck that is.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
It feels like this movie costs four hundred million dollars
to make.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, well, those movies we'll find out soon enough. Yeah,
the illumination animation movie has always cost a shocking a
shockingly high amount of money.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
This is by illumination. I don't know if it is,
but it looks like it is. You know, it's a.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Musical choice if you if you ask me to describe
the feeling of Animal Fall and pick a song, it's
not gonna be feel it still like, it's not gonna
be a pop It's like.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
I think, yeah, well, I think that's where you know
what the gist of the film is gonna be. To
have it sort of come because like the real version
it would have been dark as fuck, you know what
I mean, And you're like, yo, this looks interesting. But
I think somehow they're like, well, look it'll be talking
animals and we'll take this story about authoritarianism and just
like there's there'll be lambeaus and shit for kids to
(54:31):
laugh at, and yeah, great, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:36):
The whole message of Animal Farm is the totalitarian pigs
eventually become monsters because they become indistinguishable from the human capitalists.
And the last, literally the last line of the book
is the source of the trouble appeared to be that
Napoleon and mister Pilkington had each played an ace of
spades simultaneously.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all like,
no question, now, no question, now? What had happened to
the faces of the pigs? The creatures outside looked from
pig to man, and from man to pig, and from
pig to man again. But already it was impossible to
say which was.
Speaker 2 (55:12):
Which right, right? George Orwell, who fought.
Speaker 3 (55:17):
Fascists in the Spanish Civil War, Uh, it would would
have loved that I mean I think he would have.
There is a part where it cuts to from the
visionary George Orwell, and it's written in like chalk.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, oh my god, it's as in.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
His work can be easily erased. So I suppose that's a.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
That's right, I like chalk.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
Anyways, I can't wait to see that one can Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (55:47):
Taking my kids opening opening day, Jack, We're going children
in tow like gaze upon this masterpiece.
Speaker 3 (55:55):
Be the most annoying people in the theory, Like the
fuck is this?
Speaker 4 (55:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (56:01):
No, not that, Nope, that was wrong. Sorry, sorry, yep,
this is going to be a bit of an annotated screening. Guys, Caitlin,
such a pleasure having you as always on the Daily Zekeeist.
Speaker 1 (56:16):
Always a genuine treat, gentlemen, Thank.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
You, people find you, follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 1 (56:21):
Jtree astronomy dot com and at Jtree Astronomy Astronomy. Easy
for me to say on Instagram Tree as well. Uh,
come see the stars with me anytime you like, if
you want to follow me personally, I am on Instagram
as as Caitlin is.
Speaker 3 (56:35):
Tall, there you go, because I'm tall.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Oh yeah, that's the thing. I'm pretty all right.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
I owe you money, Jack. Is there a work of
media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 1 (56:49):
I enjoyed the work of stalking the Capitol online. I
bet he's come up before.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (56:54):
But there's an account that financially ranks by algorithm the
representatives and our our Congress, and I find the work
to be satisfying and enjoyable. It's like lo fi takedown.
It is a and if you want to if you're
a Democrat who feels like your party is corrupted, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
It is.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
It's nice to see actual numbers.
Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, right home represent Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:17):
Amazingius the perpetual stew, but that's a different side of
the internet.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Who'sus the perpetual stew?
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Uh? Yeah, there is a somebody has a perpetual stew going,
which is a stuw that always stays you just had
new ingredients in daily he offers a ranking of that
day's stew. So if you feel sickened by stocking the Capitol,
which is justifiable, you can go feel sick or still
by watching a guy add weird things to a stew.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
And there might be stuff. There might be ingredients in
there from hundreds of days ago.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Dock you strain it every now and again. But yeah,
the stock is now something like two hundred and twenty
days old.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
Oh so it's like a stew of theseus kind of
thing too. We're kind of wow, Okay.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
That's a classic. That's an old school thing, is we
an eating establishment would just always have a fire burning
with a pot on it and would just serve you
from that because it's hot. It never it can stay
there forever.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Right, because I've seen this, because like in Asia, there's
very similar things too, Like this dude's been going for
seventy years.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
And it's delicious, wonderful. Miles Where can people find you
as their work and media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Uh yeah, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.
You can also find me talking about soccer football on
the new podcast Ain't at Footy, where myself, Jamel Johnson
and Chris Martin not from Coldplay talk about everything happening
in European soccer and also still talking about ninety day
on four to twenty Day Fiance. A work of media.
(58:46):
I like, what did I Oh? I've just been watching
that fucking documentary, the Puffet Eddy documentary, because it's fucking
it's fucking out there. Uh, it's it's definitely. I think
also just as like somebody who grew up in la
and when Tupac was killed and being like, what the
fuck is going on and then just have a document
call and be like it was him, guys, feels very
(59:09):
aggressive or the implication of it feels like that. And
then also I was just watching, Oh, I just saw
Ja Kelly over the weekend and that was, Yeah, all right,
our year end.
Speaker 3 (59:22):
But we're doing our preparations for Annajos Nias Prestige casting. Yeah,
we've been given our homework yep, and we're each doing
our best to get through some of them.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
But Jake Kelly was fun. I also watched Jake Kelly.
Yeah it was good cast. Yeah, good Blockbuster cast and
some really I've Yeah, I don't know how I feel
about like Noah Bombacks directing just generally, but yeah, who's enjoyable.
Speaker 3 (59:45):
Sure. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore,
Brian on Blue Sky Jack ob the number one like
to tweet speaking of your end lists. C J.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Prince tweeted.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
For the fifteenth year in a row, the Boston Society
of Film Critics has given Best picture to Ben Afflex
the Town. You can find us on Twitter and Blue
Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
You can go to the description of this episode wherever
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you're listening to it, and there at the bottom you
will find the footnotes, which is where we link off
to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you
think that people might end.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I think just generally people are listening to all
kinds of holiday music. On the Trending episode, Jack and
I were talking about, like just listen to the same
forty songs over and over, but sometimes others there's other
kinds of music that still make it feel like it's
winter that you want to be cozy. I think classic
jazz is one of those textures that is perfect a
(01:00:49):
case in point Oscar the Oscar Peterson Trio t for
two great song to have on just this entire album,
The Mercury Complete Mercury Cleff Recordings of the Oscar Peterson Trio.
He's a fantastic piano player from Canada, a so he's
bringing that he's bringing that great, great North uh frigid
energy to his piano playing. But anyway, this is a
(01:01:10):
great track t for two Oscar Peterson trio.
Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
See you can do a lot with your fingers even
when it's cold.
Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Mister President, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
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We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending,
and we will talk to y'all then bye bye.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
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Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Co produced by Bee Wang.
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