February 1, 2018 • 64 mins
In episode 76, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Sara Schaefer to discuss Fitbit betraying the military, day zero coming for Cape Town, the hate from the right for Michelle Obama, the Super Bowl halftime show with Justin Timberlake, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome the season sixteen, episode four
of their Daily Sight Guys Yah for February first, two
thousand eight teen. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.
Jack tooson Tolerant uh courtesy of Hector Ramirez, and I'm
joined by my co host Muster Miles Gray. You know,
I was just thinking about my A K and I
want to today. I want to do something nice. I
want to give a birthday shout out to Ellen, who
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is the mother of Sophie, our project manager. I have
forgotten the a K A to wish her a happy birthday,
so that's for me to you mom a good one
because we all love our mother. I was great, AK
happy birthday, Ellen? Or that's right there? Like I like that.
That's good. Uh. Well, we're thrilled to be joined by
the very funny Sarah Schaeffer. Oh you know, like you're
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kind of living it thriving. I see, I see you
with that die dr member. Yeah, I got great d
D man happy pursuit. Sarah was bragging before we started
rolling that she can taste when a diet dctor pepper
has turned anastic expiration. But which is press? Uh? Sarah,
what is something from your search history that I was
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kind of horrified. Uh. Two recent ones. One was slang
for drug addict. I don't remember what I was I
was writing something, okay, I wanted something other than junkie.
I don't know what I was writing, but I must
have been trying to write a tweet or something. I
don't know. It might have been about my addiction to
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diet dr Pepper, because I did tweet about the fiend. Yeah,
don't you find any good ones? You'd even remember what
came up? I can't remember, remember, just being like, well,
I guess junkie is the best, but I don't want
to be offensive, you know. He realized like s beaking offensive.
My other one that I literally the last thing I
searched where I guess was last night. And I just
need to explain after I say, okay, hey, no judgment.
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You will not be able to First of all, can
I say bad words? Oh, you can say all the
bad words cocksucker offensive? Um, that's not like the offensive
I was. So. I know that that term is offensive.
It can be homophobic, and I was trying to explain
to someone why it was homophobic. But I wanted to
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make sure that I was saying in a very concise,
convincing way. So I googled it so that I could,
which I do often when I know something is wrong
or I think I have a hunch on a fact
or an argument, I'll google to supplement so that because
if I have someone's ear, even for just a moment,
I want to make sure i'm I'm communicating the most
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effective way possible, and I rely on UH the Internet
to help me with that. Each one, teach one. Yeah,
usually what I end up finding was what I thought
it was. But I just what was there? Like a
think piece on it? There's many, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some.
You know. It's it was a conversation about words, certain
words becoming offensive and out of voe right, and that,
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you know, do you want to be on? Which side
of history do you want to be on? And I said, oh, well,
cox sucker is one of them. And that's a word
you say a lot, not you. Yeah, I'm the person
I was speaking to who I won't say who it is, Okay,
I don't want to embarrass them. I've just been looking
at the thesaurus for UH synonyms for addict and junkie,
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and they're you're right, that's onnes gang. Let's get some slang,
like more slang words I've heard like like freak, zeal it, habitue, aficionado, pound,
real heroin, hound, I remember what it was. Just reminded
me because I decided on the word hound craft hound.
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I'm a craftound of crafting nice. I'm addicted to Joeann's fabrics.
I think fiend and freak are good, good ones. But
like I heard SkELL a lot from people from York.
Look at that scull over there, like yeah, because they're
so like it was like a junkie. But this guy
know who wanted to be a police officer who didn't
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get in anyway. I won't name names here, but he
would be like, Yo, look at a couple of skills
over there, and I'm like, what the fund is that?
It's like a skeleton. All right? Maybe he just like
hangs around a lot of haunted houses slang for uh anyways,
what something you think is underrated? There? Um? Oh, I
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wrote these down, um underrated silence. Nice. I believe silence
right now in our society is underrated. Um. Well, you're
gonna love the next two seconds of our show, all right,
that was probably one second that was sorry about that.
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We do know how to count. Silence is underrated. You
don't have to comment on every single thing that happens.
And we're gonna try and exercise that today. But we'll
get that. Get to that in a second. You know,
I love silence too also for like where I choose
to spend time off, I like to be around quiet things.
In general, I think people don't understand that silence is
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like actually very hard to come by in like our
urban sprawl world, where like people like I want to
go here here, I'm like, I want to go somewhere
where I don't have to even hear the sound of
human activity at all, Like I just want to be
I want to hear the wind. Baby. So yeah, that's
Jasmine breeze. Yeah, what do you think is overrated? Moral
high ground? So being on the moral high ground is
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overrated because it doesn't exist. Everyone is a hypocrite. Did
I go to philosophical I was gonna say Shape of Water,
but I feel like someone probably already said that on
the pot. No, they haven't such shape other movies. Shape
of Water, I felt is overrated. I thought I was
being trolled during the movie. I truly was like, they're
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doing this to see if they can get away with it.
Right there act she's going to have her fuck this
fish guy totally did and I didn't quite get it
the way that other people were like, so beautiful. I
just was very disoriented. I didn't think you were beautiful.
I was just like, oh, this is a weird story.
But I wasn't like, oh my god, I just want
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that the guy that lived her friend. His character was
so weird and they didn't establish a lot. I just
felt like we were dropped in the middle of this
sane world and it did it and moved too quickly
for me, and then saying like, oh, oh, so he's
hitting on the dude at the pie store and that's
what's going Yeah, there was a lot of unanswered questions
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and we were just supposed to go along with it,
which I guess that's part of the but I mean,
she gave him an egg and then it was like
we're in love. Yeah, I didn't the universal symbol for love.
That's my girlfriend. I told her, you know yet last
night I came home, I brought her hard blowed egg
and I said I love you, and she threw it
at me, got really upset, and she because we saw
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the movie Ificer that you didn't really didn't resonate with her,
didn't just eat it who immediately, Yeah, it's it's an
interesting movie. It kind of has like a tim burtony
vibe and that it's like sort of magical realism type stuff.
But then uh, it's not as like contained as a
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timber and like the aesthetic is just everything is green,
but other than that, it doesn't really and they even
comment on how everything's green. Uh Like at one point,
a guy like turns in uh work of art that
he's been working on for the Jello company and they're like, no,
they want green jello. It's like, yeah, so everything is
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green in this world. My dad described it. He goes
it was okay, it was like a nineteen forties or
fifties romance with a diversity twist, like a word diversity twist,
the diversity twist. And I was like, I don't know
what he meant by that, and I'm just not gonna
ask your silence, Please do not elaborate on that. Let's
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enjoy this time together and see silence. All right, We're
trying to take a sample of what people are thinking
and talking about right now today, at the moment that
we record this podcast, and uh, today we're going to
take a break from one subject. We're gonna go Trump
free Thursdays for today. See how it goes. We'll get
back to all the madness tomorrow. But I feel like
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I feel like all the Trump news will still be
there and waiting for us when we come back tomorrow.
Let's take a little breather. What do you think, Miles?
I think we need to because this show could easily
just become the what the funk is happening with Donald Trump?
Today's show? Right? Yeah, so silence. We don't have to
comment on everything, like you said, exactly ignore the We'll
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let it build up to a breaking point and then
we'll absolutely have to and we'll just lose our minds
that way. But the way we like to open things
up is by asking our guest, what is something that
people are thinking of talking about or have thought and
talked about that you know to be not true? What
is a myth that's out there? Look? CrossFit cross people
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make fun of it. I do it, and you have
to understand I'm someone who's never done group workout or
any kind of working out really and it's amazing and
it's not a cult. I'm sure there are some cross
I mean, let's be honest. The CrossFit that I go
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to has a Facebook page group, and there was some
really amazing drama happening in that group that did make
me think, oh, some of what people say about CrossFit
is true. These people are crazy. But a lot of
those people left right over the drama and now it's
just it was over. Like I mean, it was like,
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I'm not gonna say names. I'm gonna change names like
Frank is running this gym into the ground you and
it's just like these are people, Like it was like,
what are the stakes? Like how as a CrossFit person,
what do you see the person doing? You're like, oh,
this gym has gone to ship like when I honestly
don't know, I could. I could not tell you because
I just like in my beginner and uh. And some
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people take it very seriously. But um, people make fun
of CrossFit. And a very popular podcaster who made me
swear to secrecy because he doesn't want his fans to
know he does cross Um. He said, because one of
the stereotypes about cross his people who do it won't
stop talking about it, and I'm guilty of that. Um,
But he said maybe they won't stop talking about it
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because it actually works right and it's actually good, which
I do believe it's good. Now. I didn't know it
was inherently a group thing, so you have to do
it with other people. You can just like CrossFit by yourself.
It's no. And that's where I was scared of when
I first went. I was like, I don't like even
if a girl like looks at me too long while
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I'm working out, I'm like bitch, and then I don't
want to come back. Yeah, you know I get and
I'm not competitive. I work out people for the most
you know, like just have the way to describe it
as people. A CrossFit sometimes has this quality to it
and this is exercise in general, which is like that
like that always that's like in their blood the excuse me, doctor,
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what's my blood? Type of the mouth and that come.
But the one I go to is really chill, and
I have made such extreme I would say the word
they use is gains. I've gained muscle, and um, it's
helped me deal with a lot of hip pain. This
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is me just struggling with aging yea. And so I
think a myth is that CrossFit is annoying. It's a
little bit of a myth. I think it's for people.
It just depends on the gym in the person, right.
I think it's the same way as like people in
the beginning, like, oh, vegans won't ever stop talking about
being vegan or whatever. It's like, well, that's their prerogative,
and like you just need to check yourself because it
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doesn't vibe with you, whereas like CrossFit, you know, like
I know a lot of people who never worked out
who like CrossFit truly resonates with them and they, like
you said, have completely like they've gained a lot from
doing it. So I don't, you know, I'm not I'm
not as mad at them. The only time it's a
problem is like when the gyms spilled out into the
sidewalk and I'm just trying to walk, and that is
a problem. Yeah. I hate when they make us go outside.
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Luckily we don't do. They don't make us like take
things outside like a cattle bell, or they don't make
us like run with tires or anything crazy like that.
If they did do that, I wouldn't do it, but
they do make us run outside sometimes and one time
I I ran by people I knew and it was
did you how did you feel? It was unacceptable? I
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cannot have people see me doing this. Wait but what's
But what does that's them from? Because you're I just
don't want people to see me working out like my peers,
you know. I'm just like, I don't need you to
see me in my most vulnerable, which is me in
a horrific pain. I'm like, really, I've been doing it
for ever a year and I'm still like one of
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the weakest people. They're like, I truly, i still can't
do a real push up, Like I'm a very weak
person um in all ways. So I don't want people
seeing me um in that vulnerable moment. Yeah, I don't
like people will see me sweat. Yeah, but I can't
avoid that because I sweat too much. I don't like
people seeing me sweat and uh, my shirt is swept
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through right now. So yeah, Speaking of fitness, our first
story is about how fitbit is revealing uh secret military
bases around the world. A website called Strava that allows
users to upload data from fitness trackers like fit Bit
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has created like a heat map that shows where people
work out and it's just like completely outlined, like where
people can walk around in different military bases around the world,
some of them being secret military basis. Yeah. This a
university students saw the website and I was like, this
might be reveal other stuff. So a student I think
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in Australia or something looked at the website and then
started noticing like, I wonder if this has any like
security implications, and then it sure enough, it was like
revealing locations like of sensitive military basis, including a suspected
Patriot missile site in Yemen, a possible secret CIA base
in Somalia, and a possible U. S Special Forces base
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in the Knees Are. So it's like it's it's wild
because you look at it and out of nowhere, like
in the middle of the desert, you just see like
an outline of like a few city blocks. You're like, oh,
people have Fitbits in Somalia or maybe that's a CIA
base where the nomads are just doing Fitbit yeah workouts.
I'm just wondering because I've used those types of technologies
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before and I knew that it was being shared potentially
and put onto Yeah, that's true. I kind of it
is very blaming the CIA, the secret CIA base for
not oh yeah absolutely, I mean check, like what the hell,
hey is your GPS, I'm over here monitor on or
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why don't they think of those things? I think I'm shocked.
I think it's one of those things right where we're
not really paying attention to what all this technology we're using,
like actually what the potential is Like it's like it's there.
Of all the people to pay attention, it's there, it's them. Yeah,
they'd be like, fam, this is a fit bit free
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fucking bass so you can tass that sh out the door.
It was probably just one dude, right because also, like
I made fun of for being a little bit chunkier
than the other show you and then I'm gonna run
around the tire base three times a day. I love
the idea of like being on a secret CIA base
and be like I'm gonna map my route. Others can
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follow my route, because that's why you do it. You're like,
this is a cool running trail. Follow my route, you
get three miles in. That's the whole thing, is the case.
Any joggers come across the secret missiles because it's you.
It's not that it's being transmitted. You as the user,
have to give this information. You have to contribute it,
you have to share it. So I mean they should
be looking around like what the funk were you thinking? Right, like,
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this is a fucking secret unless, of course they thought
they had turned it off and somehow fit Bit had
collected the data and then put it you know. That's
another It wasn't just the US though, either like the
Russians and like they're Turkish people to or Turkish officials,
like the Fitbit tracking has hit everybody. That's funny to
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think of Russian like soldiers training and like the snow
without their shirts on, like doing flips and thrown Have
you ever seen like pictures from like secret force Russian
training facilities. They're like they do flips and like throw
axes at things, like it's pretty insane. And then they
have like little fitbits on their uh those steps, right.
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But I do feel like this ties into an overall
theme we see where we just trust big technology to
you know, they'll deal with it. They probably have this
under control. Uh, and apparently that includes like CI agent
and military people are like, you know, they wouldn't they
wouldn't funk this up. It like a lot of people
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aren't paying attention or fully thinking through all the implications
of their technology before they right. You know, you gotta
work out exactly. I mean, there's no question. So you
are on the brink of death at the end of
each class man, you are selling the hell out of this.
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All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right,
think and we're back. So ignoring the president is not
going to just make this like a super happy uh
episode of the show. I think in some cases, he's
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just taking up all the oxygen in the room for
other problems that we could be focusing on. Uh. And
one of those problems that The New York Times wrote
about earlier this week is that Cape Town, the town
in South Africa, has what's known as day zero coming. Um.
So that just sounds scary, but what it means is
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they are a couple of months away. I think a
few months, like three or four, maybe April is the
date that they think at the current rate, if they
don't have like a massive you know, influx of water,
uh curtsy of rain, because they're kind of in the
midst of a drought. The taps are just going to
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run dry in this you know, major city. Uh, the
government is saying that it will surpass anything a major
city has faced since World War two or the September
eleventh attacks, because it was a go in the same
category for sure, right in terms of human impact World
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War two, September eleven. Yeah, yeah, it's it's just to
get you get to get the hairs on your neck
to run, right. But they're not downplaying not eleven an
sorry to interrupted, Yeah, uh but yeah, I mean I
do like get the you know, in terms of individual
cities facing threats, like how this could be just fucking Yeah.
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There's four million people that live in Cape Town and
they get like nearly a million visitors a year. And
if they do have to turn off the taps, that
means they're gonna have to start rationing water and p
will only they'll have to go to like a water
distribution point every day and get their twenty five leaders
of water that every person is like rationed, which can
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go very quick when you factor and ship like having
to like take a shower but then collect a shower
like in the bucket so you can use that gray
water to flush your toilet, and then you might have
to give your pet water or cook with it or
wash you know what I mean. Like leaders can go
pretty quickly, and yeah, I know, like right now they're
saying that people shouldn't be taking more than like two
showers a week because of the drought or whatever, and yeah,
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part of that is because of yeah, the climate change
has led to like I think this is a third
consecutive year without significant rainfall that would normally fill the
damns and things like that, and it looks dire. However,
now I tapped into the power of the Zeit gang
and I reached out to at Afro Daddy, who's my
main source in South Africa, and I was asking him, like,
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tell me about day zero, and his first respond to
me was, dude, white people be panicking. Black people have
never had running water, but now it's an emergency. I'm
starting to see. I was like, Okay, I'm starting to see,
like how now this reaches the press level because there
are a lot of like wealthy, affluent white people who
are like, oh my god, I need Like they're apparently
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using a lot of water for plants and pools and
things like that well, I mean, why most people have
not had access to running water in general. Um. But
he was also saying that, uh, you know, it's it's
kind of crazy because there's so many factors that contributed.
It's hard to like really you know, place it on
one thing. One is like the drought. One is that
the agricultural industry uses a lot of water and they
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weren't really monitoring that and like the years coming like
leading up to this point. Um. But now I think
they're saying that if people use fifty liters a day,
they might be able to avert the day zero. But
who's to know. But it's a very complicated situation to
say the least. I mean, the article says that this
is a city that's known for like having really strong
environmental policies, uh and including like very careful management of
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water because they knew it was pretty big, pretty dry
part of the world. But apparently because they were so
focused on conservation, they didn't have external sources of water
being brought in. They thought they could just handle it
with environmental policies, and that turns out to not be
the case. When you're fighting literal fucking climate change, it's
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hard because yeah, you get thrown a curveball, like like
insane droughts that you've never experienced before. I mean, think
about all those rich white people's lawns. You guys, we
saw what Apparently it worked like it it's uh now
long term I don't know, but I just heard on
the radio on NPR like that people switching to desert
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landscaping and people monitoring their you know, getting water efficient
toilets and I let yellow mellow things like that actually worked,
and trying to collect runoff, which I also found is shoring.
Like the long term. People not planning for long term um,
because they just couldn't imagine you know, things like this happening. Um,
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which we should have because like we knew about the
ship in the eighties. Um. I remember when they did
when styrofoam from McDonald's was like evil um um. So
like they built the l A River to like get
water away as fast as possible to the ocean because
it was flooding and you know, there was these flash
floods every year and when whenever it reigned really hard,
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and so they built the l A River to get
water away as fast as possible. And we never built
ways to collect it and so now they've had to
try and rethink that. And you know it's just I
don't know, I get I can go off wherever. There's
a book everyone has to read. It's called The Control
of Nature. It's by John McPhee. He's a famous writer
nonfiction right, um, and he wrote, I've thought about this book,
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I would say, on a weekly basis for the past
almost twenty years. The Control of Nature, and it's three sections.
One is about the mountains in southern California where there's
mud flow and briefs which just happened in Montecito, and
that people keep that. His basic thesis is that humans
have a memory of like fifteen years and they'll just
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rebuild on a place that is not safe for humans.
And then he has a whole section that's fascinating about
the Army Corps of Engineers UH and the Misses history
of the Mississippi River in New Orleans. And he basically
predicted Katrina in this book. And I read the book
when I lived in New Orleans, and I mean my
apartment would flood when it rained hard. You know, like
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this isn't going to go well if it, um, And
I ended up leaving going to New York, and then
Katrina happened, and I was like, he was right, it's
a bowl, you know, and like so it's a really
interesting book. And I think about a lot. And that's
not to say I blame anybody for living in you know,
um dangerous areas, Like humans are very have a lot
of ingenuity and how to deal with stuff. But I
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think if you live somewhere where there is a history
of this stuff and they're like, hey, maybe you should leave.
It might rain tonight, leave like you know, um, I
don't want to victim blame you know, you know anyone
who was hurt in those mud sides, but you know
what I mean, it's just it's a another nature will
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destroy you. Was like a year old guy who they
were trying to get to leave his house and he
was like, no, I think I'm gonna go down with
my house. And then as he ended up dying, his
house like went down like a mountain side. And like,
on the one hand, you know, that sucks, and I'm
sure as loved ones were like, dude, you should have
just left. On the other hand, that's like a pretty
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boss way ago if you're taking in the risk and
going I don't care, then that's one thing. But if
you're like I just kept hearing the news people being
like I've never seen anything like this, and it's like, well,
there actually is a lot of history of this happening
an entire in the control of nature. He describes an
entire like town being completely wiped out and then you know,
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fifteen years it or they're building a new village on
on it, you know, and so it's it's it's a
it's an interesting cycle the human If people haven't read
John McPhee, he's incredible. Uh. Yeah, that book sounds amazing.
I read a book called Assembling California that's about geology
and like how the plates came together to form California.
California like sailed across the Pacific Ocean to get here,
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and uh, is completely different from other parts of the
United States. But um, the parallels culturally as well. Yeah, exactly. Uh,
and all of its people came over on that and
let's go back to see but yeah, he has a
description in there of I think it was the north
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Ridge earthquake, or maybe it was the earthquake that happened
in San Francisco actually around the World Series when the
world remember that, Yeah, my dad lifted me. I think
we felt it down here. But his description of his head,
so it's my memory, my favorite. I don't know, like
(27:08):
like surfs up dude, Like, well, that's why I didn't
realize cause I'm new to California. Like the most danger
and it depends on where you live. But um, the
thing I read was like you're most danger from things
flying through the air bricks like inside and outside. And
(27:30):
they're saying in California, actually like running outside is not
recommended because things are falling, and but in Mexico they're
saying that actually running outside is recommended because of the land.
There is a different type of land, and often it's
a different type of like people don't really know. Yeah,
they talked about how like landfill is the thing you
(27:52):
don't want to be on top of, and like we
we think landfill, we think of, you know, a garbage dump,
but landfill is anything that was like filled in by
man to like build on top of. And like a
whole neighborhood in San Francisco was just like demolished because
it was on landfill. But yeah, he has like it
opens with this description of like a guy who's just
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standing there and like the ground just like you know,
diving boards him up and he lands like straight down
on his head like and then there's like a house
that just walks down the street because of like it's
just like in time with the rhythm of the earth.
But yeah, we were talking about water supply and uh
for people who aren't from California and who have lawns
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and are you know I loved him Missouri for like
three years and people are very serious about their lawns
out there. But you know, keeping grass green sucks up
fifty to seventy percent of residential water. Um, so that's
you know, that's why out here, like people were shaming
you for having a lawn, Like when the drought started,
you would look at people who had grass lawns, like,
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oh yeah, I regularly go on Zillo to like I
want to buy a house. Um, I'm not quite ready yet,
but I like look just to like fantasize and see
what's out there and secret things like the secret secret exactly,
And uh, I actually do when I see a house
with a lawn of grass, I go nope, nope, And
(29:20):
that is soon I think in southern California, going to
be like it makes you not want to buy the
house used to be it used to be Cerbert Peel
and now it's like I don't want to deal with it.
I don't want the water or you know, the dirty
looks from people. And see I'll look at houses on
Zillo too, and I'll be like, there's a lawn there. No,
but if it costs four million dollars, I'm still look
at the lawn because you know, you gotta, you gotta,
(29:44):
you gotta raise the stakes in your mind, you know
what I mean? Right now living in a duplex. My
old house, we had a lawn and changed it to
like the sort of water saving whatever landscape and it
made it like ten times cooler, but it was expensive
and all the all the breaks that the government is
supposed to give you were really hard to track down.
(30:07):
It's still pretty dope, right, That's why it's a detractor
to buy a house with where you're like, I don't
want to have to convert that, right, Yeah, you have
to get like a landscape architect. It's a whole fucking thing. Um.
But so yeah, and just one other anecdote about water conservation. Um,
the dude Christian Bale plays in The Big Short Michael
(30:28):
Berry is now putting all and I mean it says
this at the end of the movie. It says he's
now putting all his money into one resource. Water. But uh,
they're like all these investment articles about that, and they're
really terrifying. They're basically talking about like why it's a
good investment opportunity, and it just talks about stuff like
(30:51):
only point zero zero seven percent of the world's total
water is still fresh water. According to the u N,
water use has grown at over toy it is the
rate of the world's population increase in the last century. Uh. Yeah,
there's just all sorts of scary ship and uh these
people are like, oh man, I'm going to make so
much money off of this. Like yeah, because George Bush
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bought Aquifer. Yeah, I remember when, um I can remember
it was a few years ago. On Twitter, I said
global warming is part of why ISIS exists, you know,
war in Syria, the drought, and people responded me like
I was insane. They were like, oh, sweetie, no, that's
not connected. And I'm like, well, read this thing I read.
(31:33):
You know, you're telling me that this thing isn't true,
like it's from a reputable source NASA. Yeah, I'm like,
I think it was a factor. I'm like, when when
we start fighting over water and resources like that, Like
that's when war breaks out and then extremist groups rise
and things like that. So it's like, you know, if
you're gonna say your main goal is to get rid
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of ISIS and the terrorists, then you also kind of
have to be believing climate change. Well, that's what climate
change has to be treated as an actual security threat,
you know, the security because it has such a destabilizing
like it's such a destabilizing force and it always just
proportionately affects like poor people. And yeah, especially with Syria,
you have farmers who they can't they can't work their
(32:17):
land because the drought. They have to move to urban
areas that are already strained, and that strain just sort
of exacerbates existing problems in the region and it can
become a mess. Well, and it did become a mess.
I mean, the Syrian conflict that everybody is familiar with
the defining political event of the decade was started just
the way Miles just described. From a drought that it
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just that people who are some not all, but a
lot of the people who are like you know, constantly
obsessed with like we gotta keep terrorists out. Uh. You know,
those people don't actually want the end of war. You know,
they want war. They're on the same side as they
need more. They're dancing there on the same five. You know,
(33:01):
we're talking about disaster capitalism yesterday because uh, Puerto Rico
is now having to privatize their electricity grid, is it, Yeah,
like their main power companies becoming privatized. Yeah, getting But
I guess the one bright side is that you have
there are countries that do look at climate change and
are making that a priority and are actually preparing themselves,
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like in Bangladesh, Like they have been hit by floods
and things like that, and they have made like fighting
climate change or at least preparing for it a high priority.
So like reinforcing their like the coastline to protect from
storm surges, relocating entire communities to be in safer areas.
So I think we need to just at the very
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least treated seriously, what's the what's the harm? I mean,
I don't you know, you're spending money. That's always the issue.
It's costs money to blah blah blah. But it's like,
but while we just throw it away, what's that fable
ants in the grasshopper the cricket and the answer something
or the grasshopper won't he's just playing his fiddle answer
(34:02):
just like preparing for winter, and winter comes and he's
like stupid. That's my impression of fucking grasshoppers where the
answer um, yeah. And I mean the big thing is
that when people do start relocating entire communities, it's going
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to screw the poor people. Like we're talking about how
the community Liberty City from the movie Moonlight, uh is
being like torn down to put up like rich people
condos because it happens to be at a place in
Miami that is like the furthest above sea level that
whereas like all these rich condos on South Beach are
(34:46):
getting flooded and like won't be there and yeah, like
twenty five years. So that's why when the Monacito stuff happened,
I was like, maybe if Oprah's house got fun, right,
we are really going to start listening, right. But it's
that thing, uh Andrew t Our guests from yesterday's show
always talks about the Gish Gallop where it's like they
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give you so many different things to have to like
point out that are wrong that you can't win without
sounding like a pencil neck. It's a nerve, like in
terms of the climate change, well in terms of the
climate change, because then you're like, all right, we need
to address climate change, and we also once climate change
starts changing things, we have to look out for poor people.
And it's just like you have so many different like problems,
(35:29):
right if you, like I thought it was about gas man, right, Yeah,
they'll look for any reason to dismiss Yeah. Yeah. Um,
So this next one I don't really have any answers for.
It's just something that I saw today that kind of
shocked me. Is uh. The hate for Michelle Obama coming
(35:50):
from the right is just fucking staggering. Like I had
heard of like really ugly comments on like Facebook from
like some Republican politician or something. But yeah, that so
the top story on Drudge, Uh is you know a
thing that says Michelle Obama says, all we have is
hope left, and it has like a really unflattering picture
(36:12):
of her next to it, and all she says she
just she says people are afraid. But then there are
people who feel good about the direction of the country.
So I mean, that's what makes this country complicated because
it made up so many different people with so many
different backgrounds. But some people feel like the world is
a scary place right now, and you know, talks about
(36:34):
hope and treating one another kindly. That's what said off
Matt Drudge. Yes, so The Hill is writing about this,
and the comments are fucking crazy. The Hill is a
political blog that is pretty much I guess it's centrist
for America. Right. It's like in the mid It's not
(36:57):
right wing or anything. No, that's not right. I wouldn't
call a right wing, but holy sh it. The comments
are like the Obama's worked over time to create racial
tension and divide America during their eight years in the
White House. Please step aside while we work to fix things.
Then next we all hope that Kenyan's wife doesn't run
for president. And then the next one, I have hope
(37:19):
I'll see her husband in prison. Uh and then uh,
why do people support his fraud and refer to Michael
as she It's an insult to females. It's not okay.
So they're they're they're saying Michelle Obama is a man
named Michael. Yeah. That's a big theme with anti Michelle
Obama hate is they try to make it about she's
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trans and like as if being transgendered is something inherently
an insult. But I mean, obviously it's used as an
insult now, But like, I'd love to get to the
point where it's like, yes, so what if she was
I mean, she's not well, But that's for people who
exists in that reality where that's the worst thing you
(38:03):
can say about a woman. You're a man, like I
get I get that a lot from the same group
of people, which is like, oh, you're obviously a man.
It's like, uh, because I'm disagree with you politically, right.
My profile picture, I mean it's yeah, I'm not going
to say I'm a ten, but it's a professional photo
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of me and I look good in it. Like I'm
definitely not man like in this photo, like like got
long hair and like makeup, and like I look like
a woman. I'm wearing a dress. So they're just going
straight to that and just yeah, those people are all transphobic, homophobic, racist,
you know, white supremacist, misogynists, and you can tell them
the way their discourse, even the comments section of an
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article about her. And you're also, you know, espousing an opinion,
which is something that only a man would do. Why
would you would you argue with you? But this is
actually being like measured, and she's saying there's a lot
of people who disagree. She's actually being objective, yes, and
also like I wish she would go after and be hardcore,
(39:11):
but she's like being like, uh, like diplomatic, and that's
not good enough. But this goes on through two comments.
It's insane, and it gets worse, like these are not
the worst things. Uh. They talk about sending her to prisons.
One person talks about hanging her from the south lawn. Uh.
(39:33):
So yeah, I don't know, it's just move on, move on,
like you know, it's I even get annoyed with some
of the understand it's important that we rehash and like
learn from things. But I'm you know, I'm like, let's
deal with the problem at hand. Let's look to the future.
(39:56):
What can we do. Do we need to continue breaking
down what happened with Bernie over and over again, or
like I mean, on the left, does it too, where
we like linger on things to the point where it's
like if your knee jerk reaction to every single thing
that happens today is to reference something from a year
(40:16):
ten years ago, like yeah, but it's like the what
about is ms, it's not Yeah, we have to learn
from history. I understand there's some levels of analysis that
need to have. I mean, I think all of this, really,
I think serves to show is that there are still
these you know, most people that are on the far
far right are just you know, they're racist and they
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don't they just do not like Michelle Obama. They look
at like the Federalists had articles like like years ago
where they're just called Michelle Obama needs to get over
herself and it was written by what I'm assuming is
a Caucasian woman based on her photo and just saying
shit like you know, it's like so what because like
Michelle Bamas like sometimes I felt like I've been too
harsh or I've been like too emasculating or blah blah blah,
(40:59):
and she's like so what what woman hasn't had to
do with that? It's like the heaviest thing you're lifting
is your Gucci bag and it's just like god, she
like dressed in Jake Crew like basically stuff sometimes. I mean,
she was kind of a very accessible we can talk.
Sorry we're not talking about that today. But yeah, there
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are a lot of there are a lot of comparison
points that it would seem to be the sort of
thing that would drive them even crazier. Uh, but when
done by a white president, Uh, it does not bother
them so much. Um. Yes, the update is racism still
exists in America. Yeah, but Jesus, it's a lot more.
(41:44):
I don't know. Maybe the only update is that the
Hill comments section is fucking monstrous and terrifying. Look every
comments section is though. Yeah, yeah, get out of your
bubble man, jump into the comments. That's what I was like,
Is this what it looks like everywhere else? Just like
(42:05):
the New York Times is pretty well too. Oh. I
did an interview on A V Club and was delighted
with the interview and was like, couldn't wait to, you know,
see the positive feedback I was getting from the smart
people who read the A V Club and I have.
It was one of the few times I read comments
on an article about myself that I was like, oh
(42:26):
my god, these people are animals, Like they were tearing
me apart for me talking about a song that I
didn't like, Like, I mean, it was so they were
digging into my stuff online me like she's not fucking funny,
she's bitch, just like, yeah, I should say this is
very uh showing my privilege as a white male for
me to be like, I can't believe it. People on
(42:48):
that kind of like right, yeah, yeah, these people don't
like this black woman. Yeah, but you found it. You
ranto awareness us the moments we're looking for. They're so mean.
All right, we're gonna take a break and we're back.
(43:14):
Uh yeah, well we'll do a future segment. We were
talking in the break about deslonization plants and there are
some ins that we're talking about for the water crisis
going forward, But for now, we have more important things
to talk about because the Super Bowls coming up, and
you know what that means halftime show saying that, but
(43:37):
people are yeah, justin timber Lake is the halftime performer.
People are taking bets on who will appear with him because, uh,
it doesn't feel like he's the type of like Lady
Gaga was the first performer in a long time to
not just have a bunch of guests appear with her
last year, so they're taking bets on who will appear.
(43:59):
They've got t at three to one, Timberland at five
to one, Madonna nine to one, Jimmy Fallon which funny
tender one, Bob Dylan Weird, Jessica Beale. He just brings
his wife out and my beautiful wife, a non musician,
(44:19):
uh Andy Sandberg fifty one for they'll do a tack
in the box thing, and then this one Janet Jackson
two hundred one, Like I would put all my money
on that one. Of course they're going to bring Janet.
I want him to yes, and then because I think
he needs to reconcile. Thank you. But I just given
my observations, I think Justin wants to move on from that,
(44:43):
and I don't think he wants to. Well he owes her.
He does. Look you're talking to I've never considered myself
a stand for anyone. Well, before you say anything, she's
wearing a Rhythm Nation hat. But I am Jackson fan. No,
I I love Janet too. Oh so you're a but
(45:04):
I'm a huge j T fan. But I'm disappointed in
the way he handled that. Of course, I've also met him,
so like you kind of know his heart, I know
his heart. I've met him once, and um, I think
he's I love him, I love I love the new music.
I'm really excited about the new album. I think it's
it's classic Justin. If you're not into his music, then
(45:27):
don't listen to it. I don't care. Um, but I
do like what he's doing on this new album. Um.
I've seen him in concert several times. Were you on
that stripped Justified tour? The what stripped Justified when he
toward Christina Aguileray, not that Justified was I see? I
like Justified as an album. It was like great when
(45:47):
I listened to a lot, and then I've listened to
other stuff. Yeah, I mean he's had some missteps, but
like I think that My thing is, I think Justin
became famous as a child and he's lived in a
very sheltered, protected world for the majority of his life.
So I just don't think he fully he's a little
at How could you not he and he doesn't. But
(46:09):
he's new new His song with Chris Staplesdon which I
really enjoy, is called say Something, which goes back to
my earlier thing about silence. And the lyric is sometimes
it's better to say nothing at all, Like the best
way to say something is to say nothing at all.
And I love that message, but I'm also like, Justin,
but you should say something about Janet. That's kind of
(46:30):
But also, look, you know, we demand so much from
our celebrities to the point where it's almost like you're
damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Um.
I wish he took more responsibility for some stuff, like, well,
I think this is the way he can make it
right with Janet. Okay, you bring Janet out and then
at the end of the song, she pulls his dick
(46:51):
out in front of everybody. She rips off a little
piece of fabric and he's just there and he has
like a weird dick ring on a big son dick.
Ran you have some jewelry. But now that's just let's
just even it up. If you're gonna put her on
blast for having her nipples out there, I guess that's
the but who knows they might be like and that
(47:12):
was the greatest Super Bowl show ever. The fact that
that was even scandalous still to this day is unbelievable
to me, Like there's people. I guess a group of
parents wrote a letter to j T just begging him
not to do anything provocative. You know. It's like, if
you want something provocative, watch the men getting concussions over
(47:34):
and over again on the field. Watch the way that, uh,
you know, we treat our black athletes. Like that's damaging
more your children more than star sticker on it, Like
like it's never seen a tip before. Didn't they used
to eat on your tip? Like, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe they didn't, then that's the problem. Yeah, they don't.
(47:56):
I don't want my children knowing about the mystery. I mean,
like it's just all of it is. So I'm not
saying I agree with it, but I totally understand where
not not understand where America is coming from. But like
that is the easiest thing to predict ever, that they're
going to be upset about that and not like fantanical background, right,
(48:19):
absolutely black breast. Now that was Look, if that was
Jessica Bielle's titty up there, they would not have been
the same And we all know that. And that was
sort of the conversation that that whole controversy kicked off too.
Was just like are we holding people to like going on,
he did it to her, but but she and then
so his response was not adequate, Like he wasn't like, yeah,
(48:40):
that was my bad because I was the one doing it.
Like he just sort of distance that he let her
take all the heat. He didn't step in and go
hey everybody, like it was it was a mistake, Like
I take full responsibility. Like he just didn't really stand
up for were invaded the oscar? Yea, And isn't he
sort of disliked in the black community for and cultural
(49:05):
appropriation claims of you know him, his music is definitely borrowed.
His hair upset a lot of Japanese people because he
had that Ramen hair. It was very good. Yeah, he
made a comment on Twitter uh a while back that
was just sort of condescending and missing the point. He
did a little bit of all lives, What did you
think of d so stupid? I got you, I got okay,
(49:33):
So listen, I know all the words already. What does
he mean when he says fell up out of it
so I can climb back in I'm a thoughtful lover
or something that's love that the video is trying to
be socially like woke, but the song is about fucking, yes,
and that my thing is like Justin does songs about
fucking and that's the majority of his music and that's
(49:55):
what he's really good at. And then you're trying to
throw in some social awareness. Ship is the video made
no sense? But that also does remind me of like
the golden age of music videos when the music video
made no sense and like remember that time, like when
every video that came on that there should be MTV
(50:15):
World premiers would be like plus the rhymes is seen
in the rain like a boy on the side of
a building, man that run of guns and roses videos
where they yeah, we promised the third one will make
sense of it all, and it's like nothing made sense.
Usually is getting corny, but I I don't mind. So
his new album was like teased as being his return
(50:40):
to his roots and like Man of the Woods, and
then the music does sound very much like everything else
I've heard from him, So it's kind of has a
more a Country Twain, you know what he actually do.
Think Justin is a really talented musician, like and he
has all like he's always just done his own thing,
Like he'll do a song and then put a three
(51:00):
minute coda on the end of it that's like a
totally different song, Like he are you musician had some music. Yeah,
he'll do things. He does things his way. You know,
he's like kind of he doesn't mind stepping into just
a slightly different world with his music. But um, I
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think these songs have like country melodies to them or
country like rules to them that then he layers on
his you know, I think it's more subtle. I think
people are just they expected because of the promo made
it seem like it was going to be a country
be like his Nebraska and uh, you know, I love
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the first video is him as a robot and I
was like, yeah, hilarious. I guess they also think about
this too, right, we're talking about, you know, super Bowl
moments and the one thing that I just want to
bring up. Sorry, do a hard transition way from Justin,
but I feel like we owe this to society. His
(52:03):
Left Shark, right, Katie Perry's left Shark. He went on
NPR and PR tracked him down, explained himself, Yeah, now
do you did you when you first saw Left Shark?
What did you think was this was just a total
dude was sucking up. Yeah, I thought I thought there.
I thought it was like a naked gun situation where
he had knocked the actual dancer out and like forgotten it.
(52:24):
And then and then was like crazy fun movements on
a stage. And but I didn't analyze it too hard. Well,
I thought it looked funny. Well, listen to this, because
we had a straight from the shark's mouth, what happened?
All right, so take me to halftime. You're out there.
This is the question that America wants to know, a
million dollar question. What happened? Happened? So there's a set choreography,
(52:49):
there's also what's called freestyle choreography, or like you get
to move around or play your character as a dancer. Right,
So it seems like a critical piece of it from
you had some You have flexibility because you are your
own character. I'm in a seven foot blue shark costume.
There's no cool. There's no cool in that. So what's
(53:10):
the other option. Well, I'm gonna play a different character.
This is a moment here America. They thought you were
totally flabbing this up. Yeah, totally, what character were you go?
This is the underdog? It's an everyday person don't have
to be perfect, you don't have to be at work.
Nobody was playing the thing. I thought that, right, yeah, exactly,
(53:32):
Yeah he might be, but he's like an everyday person
who can't dance would be doing this. But it's when
you watch, like there was like clearly choreography to like
to the course, maybe he got the timing wrong on
when you were supposed to go right because he was
kind of doing the choreography and doing it half wrong.
So to me, that doesn't feel like that was quite
the freestyle moment. But I don't know. Look if he's
trying to say this was, but that was the ultimate
(53:55):
effect of Left Shark. Yeah, so in the end, the
result was more important than maybe attention. But if you
never been to a Flaming Lips concert, god like, where
they bring out like every character. I mean, I think
she probably got that idea from from them, but like
he brings out, you know, Flaming Lips brings out like
all these people in costumes and it's just chaos and
(54:17):
there's like giant balls everywhere, you know, And that reminded
me of that, and so to me it didn't look
as much of a funk up as it did, like, oh,
she's trying to do that thing that Flaming Lips does,
like a fun party, and like some of it's off,
but it was just so funny. It made everyone feel
so good. I love Left Shark, Yeah, everyone does, that's all.
(54:38):
It's just funny that it also that it took this
long to like for this person to come and be like,
let me tell you exactly what the Super Bowl. Gosh,
people take the NFL so seriously. Actually, thinking back what
you asked, what I thought at the time. I thought
I was looking at the wrong shark because I thought
we were talking stage left, and I was like looking
at the shark to her left, and I was like,
(55:00):
they kind of see him in sync. And then I
figured out what people were talking about. Some people it
was controversial though, too. Yeah, the whole performance was controversial,
right Satan, Yeah, Satan. People take halftime show and all
of this so seriously. It's like it's a sport that
we made up. But the sagery that is being dumped
(55:22):
into brains and around the world when when you start
looking up, like Katy Perry, Satan was hidden and if
you look up Katie Perry, Satanic imagery super Bowl, then
their articles like was Lady Gaga super Bowl satanic? Was Beyonce?
So it feels like every time there's a woman up
there performing at practime, so it's satanic, And who knows.
I'm sure they'll find a way to say. Justin was
being said. If you are someone who is offended by
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pop music because you think it's part of the system
of Satan, because you are so hardcore Christian, then yes,
it is satanic because you think that anything that challenges
or distracts you from God and pure is satanic. So
it's like you can find I mean, that's definition of
satan is like away from God. So it's like unless
(56:10):
you're Satanist, and then you stand for indulgence where Christ
was about substaining right, that's like there's nothing in the
Bible about him, know about sort of like of keeping
Christ partying like no, no, no, but it's so many
it's about staying in line, whereas in Satanism is about
(56:30):
indulging yourself or like indulging whatever your urges are. But
it's not even an evil way because when you look
at like the tenants, it will be like if you
do not respect a man do not have them in
your homes. Like okay, so I don't like talk, don't
be fake with somebody and then invited into your house
and like, okay, are you satan? This is all part
of miles of this satanic profits I have to leave.
(56:50):
You are filled with satanic imagery. That is definitely true. Uh.
It's also important to note that there was a lot
of satanic imagery in there. Uh. I guess, I guess
what we define a satanic imagery might be loose definition.
But you know there are pyramids, mirrors on the floor.
I don't know what else my house, giant lions. That's
(57:11):
got to be something. Well, because like I mean, first
Peter of five verse eight, uh says be sober, be vigilant,
because your adversary, the devil, walks about like a roaring
lion seeking made devours. So she rolled up. She pulled
up on a fucking lion. So the MGM lion is Satanic,
the lion King satanic. Pink Floyd album which does have
(57:35):
a pyramid on it, Oh my god, white men, So
it's okay. The dollar bill has a full of trippy
ship And isn't that ironic because the dollar money is
the our and is our God simultaneously. It's like, what
is God that I would encourage you to discuss with
(57:56):
your pastor? Sarah, it has been a pleasure having you,
guys than you find you and follow you. I'm on
Twitter reluctantly Sarah Shae for one. Okay, also on Instagram
is Sarah for one. But I just launched a new podcast.
So if you like podcasts, what's your podcast? It's called
Loaner at coy Wolf Creek and it's sort of a
(58:17):
hybrid topical slash futuristic dystopian scripted podcasts. Very weird. Um
totally have a vision of what that is in my mind.
It's me in the future talking about right now. Oh interesting,
So I build sort of a world. Um, I don't
know if it's gonna work. Episode two came out today
(58:39):
Creek Loaner at coy Wolf Creek. Wolves are a new
species of coyote slash wolf slash dog that live on
the East Coast. Awesome. Kind of the smiles. Where can
people find you? You can find me, you know on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Greg. You co host
a podcast to right I do. Uh, what's that called ship?
(59:03):
How would people find it at this point. I don't
know if they're listening to this. Also, let me plug
if you're in l A. I'm going to be on
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Do we have a song to ride out on. Yeah,
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you know what, because we didn't talk about Trump and
Stormy Daniels has been been talked about a lot. I
just want to put people onto a great song by
the Meters called storm It's a really good vibe. The
Meters are a great band from New Orleans who are
just you know, they're like a highly sampled band as well.
Just peepe this song by the Meters called Stormy, and
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you know, just relax baby. We're trying to go into
this weekend in a peaceful way, all right, And we'll
write out on that. We will talk to you guys
tomorrow because it is the Daily podcast. Talk Um, who
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Hello the Internet, and welcome the season sixteen, episode four
of their Daily Sight Guys Yah for February first, two
thousand eight teen. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.
Jack tooson Tolerant uh courtesy of Hector Ramirez, and I'm
joined by my co host Muster Miles Gray. You know,
I was just thinking about my A K and I
want to today. I want to do something nice. I
want to give a birthday shout out to Ellen, who
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is the mother of Sophie, our project manager. I have
forgotten the a K A to wish her a happy birthday,
so that's for me to you mom a good one
because we all love our mother. I was great, AK
happy birthday, Ellen? Or that's right there? Like I like that.
That's good. Uh. Well, we're thrilled to be joined by
the very funny Sarah Schaeffer. Oh you know, like you're
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kind of living it thriving. I see, I see you
with that die dr member. Yeah, I got great d
D man happy pursuit. Sarah was bragging before we started
rolling that she can taste when a diet dctor pepper
has turned anastic expiration. But which is press? Uh? Sarah,
what is something from your search history that I was
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kind of horrified. Uh. Two recent ones. One was slang
for drug addict. I don't remember what I was I
was writing something, okay, I wanted something other than junkie.
I don't know what I was writing, but I must
have been trying to write a tweet or something. I
don't know. It might have been about my addiction to
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diet dr Pepper, because I did tweet about the fiend. Yeah,
don't you find any good ones? You'd even remember what
came up? I can't remember, remember, just being like, well,
I guess junkie is the best, but I don't want
to be offensive, you know. He realized like s beaking offensive.
My other one that I literally the last thing I
searched where I guess was last night. And I just
need to explain after I say, okay, hey, no judgment.
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You will not be able to First of all, can
I say bad words? Oh, you can say all the
bad words cocksucker offensive? Um, that's not like the offensive
I was. So. I know that that term is offensive.
It can be homophobic, and I was trying to explain
to someone why it was homophobic. But I wanted to
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make sure that I was saying in a very concise,
convincing way. So I googled it so that I could,
which I do often when I know something is wrong
or I think I have a hunch on a fact
or an argument, I'll google to supplement so that because
if I have someone's ear, even for just a moment,
I want to make sure i'm I'm communicating the most
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effective way possible, and I rely on UH the Internet
to help me with that. Each one, teach one. Yeah,
usually what I end up finding was what I thought
it was. But I just what was there? Like a
think piece on it? There's many, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some.
You know. It's it was a conversation about words, certain
words becoming offensive and out of voe right, and that,
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you know, do you want to be on? Which side
of history do you want to be on? And I said, oh, well,
cox sucker is one of them. And that's a word
you say a lot, not you. Yeah, I'm the person
I was speaking to who I won't say who it is, Okay,
I don't want to embarrass them. I've just been looking
at the thesaurus for UH synonyms for addict and junkie,
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and they're you're right, that's onnes gang. Let's get some slang,
like more slang words I've heard like like freak, zeal it, habitue, aficionado, pound,
real heroin, hound, I remember what it was. Just reminded
me because I decided on the word hound craft hound.
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I'm a craftound of crafting nice. I'm addicted to Joeann's fabrics.
I think fiend and freak are good, good ones. But
like I heard SkELL a lot from people from York.
Look at that scull over there, like yeah, because they're
so like it was like a junkie. But this guy
know who wanted to be a police officer who didn't
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get in anyway. I won't name names here, but he
would be like, Yo, look at a couple of skills
over there, and I'm like, what the fund is that?
It's like a skeleton. All right? Maybe he just like
hangs around a lot of haunted houses slang for uh anyways,
what something you think is underrated? There? Um? Oh, I
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wrote these down, um underrated silence. Nice. I believe silence
right now in our society is underrated. Um. Well, you're
gonna love the next two seconds of our show, all right,
that was probably one second that was sorry about that.
(04:53):
We do know how to count. Silence is underrated. You
don't have to comment on every single thing that happens.
And we're gonna try and exercise that today. But we'll
get that. Get to that in a second. You know,
I love silence too also for like where I choose
to spend time off, I like to be around quiet things.
In general, I think people don't understand that silence is
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like actually very hard to come by in like our
urban sprawl world, where like people like I want to
go here here, I'm like, I want to go somewhere
where I don't have to even hear the sound of
human activity at all, Like I just want to be
I want to hear the wind. Baby. So yeah, that's
Jasmine breeze. Yeah, what do you think is overrated? Moral
high ground? So being on the moral high ground is
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overrated because it doesn't exist. Everyone is a hypocrite. Did
I go to philosophical I was gonna say Shape of Water,
but I feel like someone probably already said that on
the pot. No, they haven't such shape other movies. Shape
of Water, I felt is overrated. I thought I was
being trolled during the movie. I truly was like, they're
(05:56):
doing this to see if they can get away with it.
Right there act she's going to have her fuck this
fish guy totally did and I didn't quite get it
the way that other people were like, so beautiful. I
just was very disoriented. I didn't think you were beautiful.
I was just like, oh, this is a weird story.
But I wasn't like, oh my god, I just want
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that the guy that lived her friend. His character was
so weird and they didn't establish a lot. I just
felt like we were dropped in the middle of this
sane world and it did it and moved too quickly
for me, and then saying like, oh, oh, so he's
hitting on the dude at the pie store and that's
what's going Yeah, there was a lot of unanswered questions
(06:38):
and we were just supposed to go along with it,
which I guess that's part of the but I mean,
she gave him an egg and then it was like
we're in love. Yeah, I didn't the universal symbol for love.
That's my girlfriend. I told her, you know yet last
night I came home, I brought her hard blowed egg
and I said I love you, and she threw it
at me, got really upset, and she because we saw
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the movie Ificer that you didn't really didn't resonate with her,
didn't just eat it who immediately, Yeah, it's it's an
interesting movie. It kind of has like a tim burtony
vibe and that it's like sort of magical realism type stuff.
But then uh, it's not as like contained as a
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timber and like the aesthetic is just everything is green,
but other than that, it doesn't really and they even
comment on how everything's green. Uh Like at one point,
a guy like turns in uh work of art that
he's been working on for the Jello company and they're like, no,
they want green jello. It's like, yeah, so everything is
(07:41):
green in this world. My dad described it. He goes
it was okay, it was like a nineteen forties or
fifties romance with a diversity twist, like a word diversity twist,
the diversity twist. And I was like, I don't know
what he meant by that, and I'm just not gonna
ask your silence, Please do not elaborate on that. Let's
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enjoy this time together and see silence. All right, We're
trying to take a sample of what people are thinking
and talking about right now today, at the moment that
we record this podcast, and uh, today we're going to
take a break from one subject. We're gonna go Trump
free Thursdays for today. See how it goes. We'll get
back to all the madness tomorrow. But I feel like
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I feel like all the Trump news will still be
there and waiting for us when we come back tomorrow.
Let's take a little breather. What do you think, Miles?
I think we need to because this show could easily
just become the what the funk is happening with Donald Trump?
Today's show? Right? Yeah, so silence. We don't have to
comment on everything, like you said, exactly ignore the We'll
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let it build up to a breaking point and then
we'll absolutely have to and we'll just lose our minds
that way. But the way we like to open things
up is by asking our guest, what is something that
people are thinking of talking about or have thought and
talked about that you know to be not true? What
is a myth that's out there? Look? CrossFit cross people
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make fun of it. I do it, and you have
to understand I'm someone who's never done group workout or
any kind of working out really and it's amazing and
it's not a cult. I'm sure there are some cross
I mean, let's be honest. The CrossFit that I go
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to has a Facebook page group, and there was some
really amazing drama happening in that group that did make
me think, oh, some of what people say about CrossFit
is true. These people are crazy. But a lot of
those people left right over the drama and now it's
just it was over. Like I mean, it was like,
(09:54):
I'm not gonna say names. I'm gonna change names like
Frank is running this gym into the ground you and
it's just like these are people, Like it was like,
what are the stakes? Like how as a CrossFit person,
what do you see the person doing? You're like, oh,
this gym has gone to ship like when I honestly
don't know, I could. I could not tell you because
I just like in my beginner and uh. And some
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people take it very seriously. But um, people make fun
of CrossFit. And a very popular podcaster who made me
swear to secrecy because he doesn't want his fans to
know he does cross Um. He said, because one of
the stereotypes about cross his people who do it won't
stop talking about it, and I'm guilty of that. Um,
But he said maybe they won't stop talking about it
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because it actually works right and it's actually good, which
I do believe it's good. Now. I didn't know it
was inherently a group thing, so you have to do
it with other people. You can just like CrossFit by yourself.
It's no. And that's where I was scared of when
I first went. I was like, I don't like even
if a girl like looks at me too long while
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I'm working out, I'm like bitch, and then I don't
want to come back. Yeah, you know I get and
I'm not competitive. I work out people for the most
you know, like just have the way to describe it
as people. A CrossFit sometimes has this quality to it
and this is exercise in general, which is like that
like that always that's like in their blood the excuse me, doctor,
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what's my blood? Type of the mouth and that come.
But the one I go to is really chill, and
I have made such extreme I would say the word
they use is gains. I've gained muscle, and um, it's
helped me deal with a lot of hip pain. This
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is me just struggling with aging yea. And so I
think a myth is that CrossFit is annoying. It's a
little bit of a myth. I think it's for people.
It just depends on the gym in the person, right.
I think it's the same way as like people in
the beginning, like, oh, vegans won't ever stop talking about
being vegan or whatever. It's like, well, that's their prerogative,
and like you just need to check yourself because it
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doesn't vibe with you, whereas like CrossFit, you know, like
I know a lot of people who never worked out
who like CrossFit truly resonates with them and they, like
you said, have completely like they've gained a lot from
doing it. So I don't, you know, I'm not I'm
not as mad at them. The only time it's a
problem is like when the gyms spilled out into the
sidewalk and I'm just trying to walk, and that is
a problem. Yeah. I hate when they make us go outside.
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Luckily we don't do. They don't make us like take
things outside like a cattle bell, or they don't make
us like run with tires or anything crazy like that.
If they did do that, I wouldn't do it, but
they do make us run outside sometimes and one time
I I ran by people I knew and it was
did you how did you feel? It was unacceptable? I
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cannot have people see me doing this. Wait but what's
But what does that's them from? Because you're I just
don't want people to see me working out like my peers,
you know. I'm just like, I don't need you to
see me in my most vulnerable, which is me in
a horrific pain. I'm like, really, I've been doing it
for ever a year and I'm still like one of
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the weakest people. They're like, I truly, i still can't
do a real push up, Like I'm a very weak
person um in all ways. So I don't want people
seeing me um in that vulnerable moment. Yeah, I don't
like people will see me sweat. Yeah, but I can't
avoid that because I sweat too much. I don't like
people seeing me sweat and uh, my shirt is swept
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through right now. So yeah, Speaking of fitness, our first
story is about how fitbit is revealing uh secret military
bases around the world. A website called Strava that allows
users to upload data from fitness trackers like fit Bit
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has created like a heat map that shows where people
work out and it's just like completely outlined, like where
people can walk around in different military bases around the world,
some of them being secret military basis. Yeah. This a
university students saw the website and I was like, this
might be reveal other stuff. So a student I think
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in Australia or something looked at the website and then
started noticing like, I wonder if this has any like
security implications, and then it sure enough, it was like
revealing locations like of sensitive military basis, including a suspected
Patriot missile site in Yemen, a possible secret CIA base
in Somalia, and a possible U. S Special Forces base
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in the Knees Are. So it's like it's it's wild
because you look at it and out of nowhere, like
in the middle of the desert, you just see like
an outline of like a few city blocks. You're like, oh,
people have Fitbits in Somalia or maybe that's a CIA
base where the nomads are just doing Fitbit yeah workouts.
I'm just wondering because I've used those types of technologies
(15:05):
before and I knew that it was being shared potentially
and put onto Yeah, that's true. I kind of it
is very blaming the CIA, the secret CIA base for
not oh yeah absolutely, I mean check, like what the hell,
hey is your GPS, I'm over here monitor on or
(15:26):
why don't they think of those things? I think I'm shocked.
I think it's one of those things right where we're
not really paying attention to what all this technology we're using,
like actually what the potential is Like it's like it's there.
Of all the people to pay attention, it's there, it's them. Yeah,
they'd be like, fam, this is a fit bit free
(15:47):
fucking bass so you can tass that sh out the door.
It was probably just one dude, right because also, like
I made fun of for being a little bit chunkier
than the other show you and then I'm gonna run
around the tire base three times a day. I love
the idea of like being on a secret CIA base
and be like I'm gonna map my route. Others can
(16:10):
follow my route, because that's why you do it. You're like,
this is a cool running trail. Follow my route, you
get three miles in. That's the whole thing, is the case.
Any joggers come across the secret missiles because it's you.
It's not that it's being transmitted. You as the user,
have to give this information. You have to contribute it,
you have to share it. So I mean they should
be looking around like what the funk were you thinking? Right, like,
(16:32):
this is a fucking secret unless, of course they thought
they had turned it off and somehow fit Bit had
collected the data and then put it you know. That's
another It wasn't just the US though, either like the
Russians and like they're Turkish people to or Turkish officials,
like the Fitbit tracking has hit everybody. That's funny to
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think of Russian like soldiers training and like the snow
without their shirts on, like doing flips and thrown Have
you ever seen like pictures from like secret force Russian
training facilities. They're like they do flips and like throw
axes at things, like it's pretty insane. And then they
have like little fitbits on their uh those steps, right.
(17:15):
But I do feel like this ties into an overall
theme we see where we just trust big technology to
you know, they'll deal with it. They probably have this
under control. Uh, and apparently that includes like CI agent
and military people are like, you know, they wouldn't they
wouldn't funk this up. It like a lot of people
(17:35):
aren't paying attention or fully thinking through all the implications
of their technology before they right. You know, you gotta
work out exactly. I mean, there's no question. So you
are on the brink of death at the end of
each class man, you are selling the hell out of this.
(17:58):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right,
think and we're back. So ignoring the president is not
going to just make this like a super happy uh
episode of the show. I think in some cases, he's
(18:19):
just taking up all the oxygen in the room for
other problems that we could be focusing on. Uh. And
one of those problems that The New York Times wrote
about earlier this week is that Cape Town, the town
in South Africa, has what's known as day zero coming. Um.
So that just sounds scary, but what it means is
(18:42):
they are a couple of months away. I think a
few months, like three or four, maybe April is the
date that they think at the current rate, if they
don't have like a massive you know, influx of water,
uh curtsy of rain, because they're kind of in the
midst of a drought. The taps are just going to
(19:04):
run dry in this you know, major city. Uh, the
government is saying that it will surpass anything a major
city has faced since World War two or the September
eleventh attacks, because it was a go in the same
category for sure, right in terms of human impact World
(19:25):
War two, September eleven. Yeah, yeah, it's it's just to
get you get to get the hairs on your neck
to run, right. But they're not downplaying not eleven an
sorry to interrupted, Yeah, uh but yeah, I mean I
do like get the you know, in terms of individual
cities facing threats, like how this could be just fucking Yeah.
(19:48):
There's four million people that live in Cape Town and
they get like nearly a million visitors a year. And
if they do have to turn off the taps, that
means they're gonna have to start rationing water and p
will only they'll have to go to like a water
distribution point every day and get their twenty five leaders
of water that every person is like rationed, which can
(20:09):
go very quick when you factor and ship like having
to like take a shower but then collect a shower
like in the bucket so you can use that gray
water to flush your toilet, and then you might have
to give your pet water or cook with it or
wash you know what I mean. Like leaders can go
pretty quickly, and yeah, I know, like right now they're
saying that people shouldn't be taking more than like two
showers a week because of the drought or whatever, and yeah,
(20:31):
part of that is because of yeah, the climate change
has led to like I think this is a third
consecutive year without significant rainfall that would normally fill the
damns and things like that, and it looks dire. However,
now I tapped into the power of the Zeit gang
and I reached out to at Afro Daddy, who's my
main source in South Africa, and I was asking him, like,
(20:52):
tell me about day zero, and his first respond to
me was, dude, white people be panicking. Black people have
never had running water, but now it's an emergency. I'm
starting to see. I was like, Okay, I'm starting to see,
like how now this reaches the press level because there
are a lot of like wealthy, affluent white people who
are like, oh my god, I need Like they're apparently
(21:13):
using a lot of water for plants and pools and
things like that well, I mean, why most people have
not had access to running water in general. Um. But
he was also saying that, uh, you know, it's it's
kind of crazy because there's so many factors that contributed.
It's hard to like really you know, place it on
one thing. One is like the drought. One is that
the agricultural industry uses a lot of water and they
(21:34):
weren't really monitoring that and like the years coming like
leading up to this point. Um. But now I think
they're saying that if people use fifty liters a day,
they might be able to avert the day zero. But
who's to know. But it's a very complicated situation to
say the least. I mean, the article says that this
is a city that's known for like having really strong
environmental policies, uh and including like very careful management of
(21:57):
water because they knew it was pretty big, pretty dry
part of the world. But apparently because they were so
focused on conservation, they didn't have external sources of water
being brought in. They thought they could just handle it
with environmental policies, and that turns out to not be
the case. When you're fighting literal fucking climate change, it's
(22:20):
hard because yeah, you get thrown a curveball, like like
insane droughts that you've never experienced before. I mean, think
about all those rich white people's lawns. You guys, we
saw what Apparently it worked like it it's uh now
long term I don't know, but I just heard on
the radio on NPR like that people switching to desert
(22:42):
landscaping and people monitoring their you know, getting water efficient
toilets and I let yellow mellow things like that actually worked,
and trying to collect runoff, which I also found is shoring.
Like the long term. People not planning for long term um,
because they just couldn't imagine you know, things like this happening. Um,
(23:03):
which we should have because like we knew about the
ship in the eighties. Um. I remember when they did
when styrofoam from McDonald's was like evil um um. So
like they built the l A River to like get
water away as fast as possible to the ocean because
it was flooding and you know, there was these flash
floods every year and when whenever it reigned really hard,
(23:24):
and so they built the l A River to get
water away as fast as possible. And we never built
ways to collect it and so now they've had to
try and rethink that. And you know it's just I
don't know, I get I can go off wherever. There's
a book everyone has to read. It's called The Control
of Nature. It's by John McPhee. He's a famous writer
nonfiction right, um, and he wrote, I've thought about this book,
(23:47):
I would say, on a weekly basis for the past
almost twenty years. The Control of Nature, and it's three sections.
One is about the mountains in southern California where there's
mud flow and briefs which just happened in Montecito, and
that people keep that. His basic thesis is that humans
have a memory of like fifteen years and they'll just
(24:10):
rebuild on a place that is not safe for humans.
And then he has a whole section that's fascinating about
the Army Corps of Engineers UH and the Misses history
of the Mississippi River in New Orleans. And he basically
predicted Katrina in this book. And I read the book
when I lived in New Orleans, and I mean my
apartment would flood when it rained hard. You know, like
(24:32):
this isn't going to go well if it, um, And
I ended up leaving going to New York, and then
Katrina happened, and I was like, he was right, it's
a bowl, you know, and like so it's a really
interesting book. And I think about a lot. And that's
not to say I blame anybody for living in you know,
um dangerous areas, Like humans are very have a lot
of ingenuity and how to deal with stuff. But I
(24:53):
think if you live somewhere where there is a history
of this stuff and they're like, hey, maybe you should leave.
It might rain tonight, leave like you know, um, I
don't want to victim blame you know, you know anyone
who was hurt in those mud sides, but you know
what I mean, it's just it's a another nature will
(25:15):
destroy you. Was like a year old guy who they
were trying to get to leave his house and he
was like, no, I think I'm gonna go down with
my house. And then as he ended up dying, his
house like went down like a mountain side. And like,
on the one hand, you know, that sucks, and I'm
sure as loved ones were like, dude, you should have
just left. On the other hand, that's like a pretty
(25:36):
boss way ago if you're taking in the risk and
going I don't care, then that's one thing. But if
you're like I just kept hearing the news people being
like I've never seen anything like this, and it's like, well,
there actually is a lot of history of this happening
an entire in the control of nature. He describes an
entire like town being completely wiped out and then you know,
(25:59):
fifteen years it or they're building a new village on
on it, you know, and so it's it's it's a
it's an interesting cycle the human If people haven't read
John McPhee, he's incredible. Uh. Yeah, that book sounds amazing.
I read a book called Assembling California that's about geology
and like how the plates came together to form California.
California like sailed across the Pacific Ocean to get here,
(26:22):
and uh, is completely different from other parts of the
United States. But um, the parallels culturally as well. Yeah, exactly. Uh,
and all of its people came over on that and
let's go back to see but yeah, he has a
description in there of I think it was the north
(26:44):
Ridge earthquake, or maybe it was the earthquake that happened
in San Francisco actually around the World Series when the
world remember that, Yeah, my dad lifted me. I think
we felt it down here. But his description of his head,
so it's my memory, my favorite. I don't know, like
(27:08):
like surfs up dude, Like, well, that's why I didn't
realize cause I'm new to California. Like the most danger
and it depends on where you live. But um, the
thing I read was like you're most danger from things
flying through the air bricks like inside and outside. And
(27:30):
they're saying in California, actually like running outside is not
recommended because things are falling, and but in Mexico they're
saying that actually running outside is recommended because of the land.
There is a different type of land, and often it's
a different type of like people don't really know. Yeah,
they talked about how like landfill is the thing you
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don't want to be on top of, and like we
we think landfill, we think of, you know, a garbage dump,
but landfill is anything that was like filled in by
man to like build on top of. And like a
whole neighborhood in San Francisco was just like demolished because
it was on landfill. But yeah, he has like it
opens with this description of like a guy who's just
(28:12):
standing there and like the ground just like you know,
diving boards him up and he lands like straight down
on his head like and then there's like a house
that just walks down the street because of like it's
just like in time with the rhythm of the earth.
But yeah, we were talking about water supply and uh
for people who aren't from California and who have lawns
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and are you know I loved him Missouri for like
three years and people are very serious about their lawns
out there. But you know, keeping grass green sucks up
fifty to seventy percent of residential water. Um, so that's
you know, that's why out here, like people were shaming
you for having a lawn, Like when the drought started,
you would look at people who had grass lawns, like,
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oh yeah, I regularly go on Zillo to like I
want to buy a house. Um, I'm not quite ready yet,
but I like look just to like fantasize and see
what's out there and secret things like the secret secret exactly,
And uh, I actually do when I see a house
with a lawn of grass, I go nope, nope, And
(29:20):
that is soon I think in southern California, going to
be like it makes you not want to buy the
house used to be it used to be Cerbert Peel
and now it's like I don't want to deal with it.
I don't want the water or you know, the dirty
looks from people. And see I'll look at houses on
Zillo too, and I'll be like, there's a lawn there. No,
but if it costs four million dollars, I'm still look
at the lawn because you know, you gotta, you gotta,
(29:44):
you gotta raise the stakes in your mind, you know
what I mean? Right now living in a duplex. My
old house, we had a lawn and changed it to
like the sort of water saving whatever landscape and it
made it like ten times cooler, but it was expensive
and all the all the breaks that the government is
supposed to give you were really hard to track down.
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It's still pretty dope, right, That's why it's a detractor
to buy a house with where you're like, I don't
want to have to convert that, right, Yeah, you have
to get like a landscape architect. It's a whole fucking thing. Um.
But so yeah, and just one other anecdote about water conservation. Um,
the dude Christian Bale plays in The Big Short Michael
(30:28):
Berry is now putting all and I mean it says
this at the end of the movie. It says he's
now putting all his money into one resource. Water. But uh,
they're like all these investment articles about that, and they're
really terrifying. They're basically talking about like why it's a
good investment opportunity, and it just talks about stuff like
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only point zero zero seven percent of the world's total
water is still fresh water. According to the u N,
water use has grown at over toy it is the
rate of the world's population increase in the last century. Uh. Yeah,
there's just all sorts of scary ship and uh these
people are like, oh man, I'm going to make so
much money off of this. Like yeah, because George Bush
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bought Aquifer. Yeah, I remember when, um I can remember
it was a few years ago. On Twitter, I said
global warming is part of why ISIS exists, you know,
war in Syria, the drought, and people responded me like
I was insane. They were like, oh, sweetie, no, that's
not connected. And I'm like, well, read this thing I read.
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You know, you're telling me that this thing isn't true,
like it's from a reputable source NASA. Yeah, I'm like,
I think it was a factor. I'm like, when when
we start fighting over water and resources like that, Like
that's when war breaks out and then extremist groups rise
and things like that. So it's like, you know, if
you're gonna say your main goal is to get rid
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of ISIS and the terrorists, then you also kind of
have to be believing climate change. Well, that's what climate
change has to be treated as an actual security threat,
you know, the security because it has such a destabilizing
like it's such a destabilizing force and it always just
proportionately affects like poor people. And yeah, especially with Syria,
you have farmers who they can't they can't work their
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land because the drought. They have to move to urban
areas that are already strained, and that strain just sort
of exacerbates existing problems in the region and it can
become a mess. Well, and it did become a mess.
I mean, the Syrian conflict that everybody is familiar with
the defining political event of the decade was started just
the way Miles just described. From a drought that it
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just that people who are some not all, but a
lot of the people who are like you know, constantly
obsessed with like we gotta keep terrorists out. Uh. You know,
those people don't actually want the end of war. You know,
they want war. They're on the same side as they
need more. They're dancing there on the same five. You know,
(33:01):
we're talking about disaster capitalism yesterday because uh, Puerto Rico
is now having to privatize their electricity grid, is it, Yeah,
like their main power companies becoming privatized. Yeah, getting But
I guess the one bright side is that you have
there are countries that do look at climate change and
are making that a priority and are actually preparing themselves,
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like in Bangladesh, Like they have been hit by floods
and things like that, and they have made like fighting
climate change or at least preparing for it a high priority.
So like reinforcing their like the coastline to protect from
storm surges, relocating entire communities to be in safer areas.
So I think we need to just at the very
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least treated seriously, what's the what's the harm? I mean,
I don't you know, you're spending money. That's always the issue.
It's costs money to blah blah blah. But it's like,
but while we just throw it away, what's that fable
ants in the grasshopper the cricket and the answer something
or the grasshopper won't he's just playing his fiddle answer
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just like preparing for winter, and winter comes and he's
like stupid. That's my impression of fucking grasshoppers where the
answer um, yeah. And I mean the big thing is
that when people do start relocating entire communities, it's going
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to screw the poor people. Like we're talking about how
the community Liberty City from the movie Moonlight, uh is
being like torn down to put up like rich people
condos because it happens to be at a place in
Miami that is like the furthest above sea level that
whereas like all these rich condos on South Beach are
(34:46):
getting flooded and like won't be there and yeah, like
twenty five years. So that's why when the Monacito stuff happened,
I was like, maybe if Oprah's house got fun, right,
we are really going to start listening, right. But it's
that thing, uh Andrew t Our guests from yesterday's show
always talks about the Gish Gallop where it's like they
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give you so many different things to have to like
point out that are wrong that you can't win without
sounding like a pencil neck. It's a nerve, like in
terms of the climate change, well in terms of the
climate change, because then you're like, all right, we need
to address climate change, and we also once climate change
starts changing things, we have to look out for poor people.
And it's just like you have so many different like problems,
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right if you, like I thought it was about gas man, right, Yeah,
they'll look for any reason to dismiss Yeah. Yeah. Um,
So this next one I don't really have any answers for.
It's just something that I saw today that kind of
shocked me. Is uh. The hate for Michelle Obama coming
(35:50):
from the right is just fucking staggering. Like I had
heard of like really ugly comments on like Facebook from
like some Republican politician or something. But yeah, that so
the top story on Drudge, Uh is you know a
thing that says Michelle Obama says, all we have is
hope left, and it has like a really unflattering picture
(36:12):
of her next to it, and all she says she
just she says people are afraid. But then there are
people who feel good about the direction of the country.
So I mean, that's what makes this country complicated because
it made up so many different people with so many
different backgrounds. But some people feel like the world is
a scary place right now, and you know, talks about
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hope and treating one another kindly. That's what said off
Matt Drudge. Yes, so The Hill is writing about this,
and the comments are fucking crazy. The Hill is a
political blog that is pretty much I guess it's centrist
for America. Right. It's like in the mid It's not
(36:57):
right wing or anything. No, that's not right. I wouldn't
call a right wing, but holy sh it. The comments
are like the Obama's worked over time to create racial
tension and divide America during their eight years in the
White House. Please step aside while we work to fix things.
Then next we all hope that Kenyan's wife doesn't run
for president. And then the next one, I have hope
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I'll see her husband in prison. Uh and then uh,
why do people support his fraud and refer to Michael
as she It's an insult to females. It's not okay.
So they're they're they're saying Michelle Obama is a man
named Michael. Yeah. That's a big theme with anti Michelle
Obama hate is they try to make it about she's
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trans and like as if being transgendered is something inherently
an insult. But I mean, obviously it's used as an
insult now, But like, I'd love to get to the
point where it's like, yes, so what if she was
I mean, she's not well, But that's for people who
exists in that reality where that's the worst thing you
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can say about a woman. You're a man, like I
get I get that a lot from the same group
of people, which is like, oh, you're obviously a man.
It's like, uh, because I'm disagree with you politically, right.
My profile picture, I mean it's yeah, I'm not going
to say I'm a ten, but it's a professional photo
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of me and I look good in it. Like I'm
definitely not man like in this photo, like like got
long hair and like makeup, and like I look like
a woman. I'm wearing a dress. So they're just going
straight to that and just yeah, those people are all transphobic, homophobic, racist,
you know, white supremacist, misogynists, and you can tell them
the way their discourse, even the comments section of an
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article about her. And you're also, you know, espousing an opinion,
which is something that only a man would do. Why
would you would you argue with you? But this is
actually being like measured, and she's saying there's a lot
of people who disagree. She's actually being objective, yes, and
also like I wish she would go after and be hardcore,
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but she's like being like, uh, like diplomatic, and that's
not good enough. But this goes on through two comments.
It's insane, and it gets worse, like these are not
the worst things. Uh. They talk about sending her to prisons.
One person talks about hanging her from the south lawn. Uh.
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So yeah, I don't know, it's just move on, move on,
like you know, it's I even get annoyed with some
of the understand it's important that we rehash and like
learn from things. But I'm you know, I'm like, let's
deal with the problem at hand. Let's look to the future.
(39:56):
What can we do. Do we need to continue breaking
down what happened with Bernie over and over again, or
like I mean, on the left, does it too, where
we like linger on things to the point where it's
like if your knee jerk reaction to every single thing
that happens today is to reference something from a year
(40:16):
ten years ago, like yeah, but it's like the what
about is ms, it's not Yeah, we have to learn
from history. I understand there's some levels of analysis that
need to have. I mean, I think all of this, really,
I think serves to show is that there are still
these you know, most people that are on the far
far right are just you know, they're racist and they
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don't they just do not like Michelle Obama. They look
at like the Federalists had articles like like years ago
where they're just called Michelle Obama needs to get over
herself and it was written by what I'm assuming is
a Caucasian woman based on her photo and just saying
shit like you know, it's like so what because like
Michelle Bamas like sometimes I felt like I've been too
harsh or I've been like too emasculating or blah blah blah,
(40:59):
and she's like so what what woman hasn't had to
do with that? It's like the heaviest thing you're lifting
is your Gucci bag and it's just like god, she
like dressed in Jake Crew like basically stuff sometimes. I mean,
she was kind of a very accessible we can talk.
Sorry we're not talking about that today. But yeah, there
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are a lot of there are a lot of comparison
points that it would seem to be the sort of
thing that would drive them even crazier. Uh, but when
done by a white president, Uh, it does not bother
them so much. Um. Yes, the update is racism still
exists in America. Yeah, but Jesus, it's a lot more.
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I don't know. Maybe the only update is that the
Hill comments section is fucking monstrous and terrifying. Look every
comments section is though. Yeah, yeah, get out of your
bubble man, jump into the comments. That's what I was like,
Is this what it looks like everywhere else? Just like
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the New York Times is pretty well too. Oh. I
did an interview on A V Club and was delighted
with the interview and was like, couldn't wait to, you know,
see the positive feedback I was getting from the smart
people who read the A V Club and I have.
It was one of the few times I read comments
on an article about myself that I was like, oh
(42:26):
my god, these people are animals, Like they were tearing
me apart for me talking about a song that I
didn't like, Like, I mean, it was so they were
digging into my stuff online me like she's not fucking funny,
she's bitch, just like, yeah, I should say this is
very uh showing my privilege as a white male for
me to be like, I can't believe it. People on
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that kind of like right, yeah, yeah, these people don't
like this black woman. Yeah, but you found it. You
ranto awareness us the moments we're looking for. They're so mean.
All right, we're gonna take a break and we're back.
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Uh yeah, well we'll do a future segment. We were
talking in the break about deslonization plants and there are
some ins that we're talking about for the water crisis
going forward, But for now, we have more important things
to talk about because the Super Bowls coming up, and
you know what that means halftime show saying that, but
(43:37):
people are yeah, justin timber Lake is the halftime performer.
People are taking bets on who will appear with him because, uh,
it doesn't feel like he's the type of like Lady
Gaga was the first performer in a long time to
not just have a bunch of guests appear with her
last year, so they're taking bets on who will appear.
(43:59):
They've got t at three to one, Timberland at five
to one, Madonna nine to one, Jimmy Fallon which funny
tender one, Bob Dylan Weird, Jessica Beale. He just brings
his wife out and my beautiful wife, a non musician,
(44:19):
uh Andy Sandberg fifty one for they'll do a tack
in the box thing, and then this one Janet Jackson
two hundred one, Like I would put all my money
on that one. Of course they're going to bring Janet.
I want him to yes, and then because I think
he needs to reconcile. Thank you. But I just given
my observations, I think Justin wants to move on from that,
(44:43):
and I don't think he wants to. Well he owes her.
He does. Look you're talking to I've never considered myself
a stand for anyone. Well, before you say anything, she's
wearing a Rhythm Nation hat. But I am Jackson fan. No,
I I love Janet too. Oh so you're a but
(45:04):
I'm a huge j T fan. But I'm disappointed in
the way he handled that. Of course, I've also met him,
so like you kind of know his heart, I know
his heart. I've met him once, and um, I think
he's I love him, I love I love the new music.
I'm really excited about the new album. I think it's
it's classic Justin. If you're not into his music, then
(45:27):
don't listen to it. I don't care. Um, but I
do like what he's doing on this new album. Um.
I've seen him in concert several times. Were you on
that stripped Justified tour? The what stripped Justified when he
toward Christina Aguileray, not that Justified was I see? I
like Justified as an album. It was like great when
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I listened to a lot, and then I've listened to
other stuff. Yeah, I mean he's had some missteps, but
like I think that My thing is, I think Justin
became famous as a child and he's lived in a
very sheltered, protected world for the majority of his life.
So I just don't think he fully he's a little
at How could you not he and he doesn't. But
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he's new new His song with Chris Staplesdon which I
really enjoy, is called say Something, which goes back to
my earlier thing about silence. And the lyric is sometimes
it's better to say nothing at all, Like the best
way to say something is to say nothing at all.
And I love that message, but I'm also like, Justin,
but you should say something about Janet. That's kind of
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But also, look, you know, we demand so much from
our celebrities to the point where it's almost like you're
damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Um.
I wish he took more responsibility for some stuff, like, well,
I think this is the way he can make it
right with Janet. Okay, you bring Janet out and then
at the end of the song, she pulls his dick
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out in front of everybody. She rips off a little
piece of fabric and he's just there and he has
like a weird dick ring on a big son dick.
Ran you have some jewelry. But now that's just let's
just even it up. If you're gonna put her on
blast for having her nipples out there, I guess that's
the but who knows they might be like and that
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was the greatest Super Bowl show ever. The fact that
that was even scandalous still to this day is unbelievable
to me, Like there's people. I guess a group of
parents wrote a letter to j T just begging him
not to do anything provocative. You know. It's like, if
you want something provocative, watch the men getting concussions over
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and over again on the field. Watch the way that, uh,
you know, we treat our black athletes. Like that's damaging
more your children more than star sticker on it, Like
like it's never seen a tip before. Didn't they used
to eat on your tip? Like, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe they didn't, then that's the problem. Yeah, they don't.
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I don't want my children knowing about the mystery. I mean,
like it's just all of it is. So I'm not
saying I agree with it, but I totally understand where
not not understand where America is coming from. But like
that is the easiest thing to predict ever, that they're
going to be upset about that and not like fantanical background, right,
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absolutely black breast. Now that was Look, if that was
Jessica Bielle's titty up there, they would not have been
the same And we all know that. And that was
sort of the conversation that that whole controversy kicked off too.
Was just like are we holding people to like going on,
he did it to her, but but she and then
so his response was not adequate, Like he wasn't like, yeah,
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that was my bad because I was the one doing it.
Like he just sort of distance that he let her
take all the heat. He didn't step in and go
hey everybody, like it was it was a mistake, Like
I take full responsibility. Like he just didn't really stand
up for were invaded the oscar? Yea, And isn't he
sort of disliked in the black community for and cultural
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appropriation claims of you know him, his music is definitely borrowed.
His hair upset a lot of Japanese people because he
had that Ramen hair. It was very good. Yeah, he
made a comment on Twitter uh a while back that
was just sort of condescending and missing the point. He
did a little bit of all lives, What did you
think of d so stupid? I got you, I got okay,
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So listen, I know all the words already. What does
he mean when he says fell up out of it
so I can climb back in I'm a thoughtful lover
or something that's love that the video is trying to
be socially like woke, but the song is about fucking, yes,
and that my thing is like Justin does songs about
fucking and that's the majority of his music and that's
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what he's really good at. And then you're trying to
throw in some social awareness. Ship is the video made
no sense? But that also does remind me of like
the golden age of music videos when the music video
made no sense and like remember that time, like when
every video that came on that there should be MTV
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World premiers would be like plus the rhymes is seen
in the rain like a boy on the side of
a building, man that run of guns and roses videos
where they yeah, we promised the third one will make
sense of it all, and it's like nothing made sense.
Usually is getting corny, but I I don't mind. So
his new album was like teased as being his return
(50:40):
to his roots and like Man of the Woods, and
then the music does sound very much like everything else
I've heard from him, So it's kind of has a
more a Country Twain, you know what he actually do.
Think Justin is a really talented musician, like and he
has all like he's always just done his own thing,
Like he'll do a song and then put a three
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minute coda on the end of it that's like a
totally different song, Like he are you musician had some music. Yeah,
he'll do things. He does things his way. You know,
he's like kind of he doesn't mind stepping into just
a slightly different world with his music. But um, I
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think these songs have like country melodies to them or
country like rules to them that then he layers on
his you know, I think it's more subtle. I think
people are just they expected because of the promo made
it seem like it was going to be a country
be like his Nebraska and uh, you know, I love
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the first video is him as a robot and I
was like, yeah, hilarious. I guess they also think about
this too, right, we're talking about, you know, super Bowl
moments and the one thing that I just want to
bring up. Sorry, do a hard transition way from Justin,
but I feel like we owe this to society. His
(52:03):
Left Shark, right, Katie Perry's left Shark. He went on
NPR and PR tracked him down, explained himself, Yeah, now
do you did you when you first saw Left Shark?
What did you think was this was just a total
dude was sucking up. Yeah, I thought I thought there.
I thought it was like a naked gun situation where
he had knocked the actual dancer out and like forgotten it.
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And then and then was like crazy fun movements on
a stage. And but I didn't analyze it too hard. Well,
I thought it looked funny. Well, listen to this, because
we had a straight from the shark's mouth, what happened?
All right, so take me to halftime. You're out there.
This is the question that America wants to know, a
million dollar question. What happened? Happened? So there's a set choreography,
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there's also what's called freestyle choreography, or like you get
to move around or play your character as a dancer. Right,
So it seems like a critical piece of it from
you had some You have flexibility because you are your
own character. I'm in a seven foot blue shark costume.
There's no cool. There's no cool in that. So what's
(53:10):
the other option. Well, I'm gonna play a different character.
This is a moment here America. They thought you were
totally flabbing this up. Yeah, totally, what character were you go?
This is the underdog? It's an everyday person don't have
to be perfect, you don't have to be at work.
Nobody was playing the thing. I thought that, right, yeah, exactly,
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Yeah he might be, but he's like an everyday person
who can't dance would be doing this. But it's when
you watch, like there was like clearly choreography to like
to the course, maybe he got the timing wrong on
when you were supposed to go right because he was
kind of doing the choreography and doing it half wrong.
So to me, that doesn't feel like that was quite
the freestyle moment. But I don't know. Look if he's
trying to say this was, but that was the ultimate
(53:55):
effect of Left Shark. Yeah, so in the end, the
result was more important than maybe attention. But if you
never been to a Flaming Lips concert, god like, where
they bring out like every character. I mean, I think
she probably got that idea from from them, but like
he brings out, you know, Flaming Lips brings out like
all these people in costumes and it's just chaos and
(54:17):
there's like giant balls everywhere, you know, And that reminded
me of that, and so to me it didn't look
as much of a funk up as it did, like, oh,
she's trying to do that thing that Flaming Lips does,
like a fun party, and like some of it's off,
but it was just so funny. It made everyone feel
so good. I love Left Shark, Yeah, everyone does, that's all.
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It's just funny that it also that it took this
long to like for this person to come and be like,
let me tell you exactly what the Super Bowl. Gosh,
people take the NFL so seriously. Actually, thinking back what
you asked, what I thought at the time. I thought
I was looking at the wrong shark because I thought
we were talking stage left, and I was like looking
at the shark to her left, and I was like,
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they kind of see him in sync. And then I
figured out what people were talking about. Some people it
was controversial though, too. Yeah, the whole performance was controversial,
right Satan, Yeah, Satan. People take halftime show and all
of this so seriously. It's like it's a sport that
we made up. But the sagery that is being dumped
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into brains and around the world when when you start
looking up, like Katy Perry, Satan was hidden and if
you look up Katie Perry, Satanic imagery super Bowl, then
their articles like was Lady Gaga super Bowl satanic? Was Beyonce?
So it feels like every time there's a woman up
there performing at practime, so it's satanic, And who knows.
I'm sure they'll find a way to say. Justin was
being said. If you are someone who is offended by
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pop music because you think it's part of the system
of Satan, because you are so hardcore Christian, then yes,
it is satanic because you think that anything that challenges
or distracts you from God and pure is satanic. So
it's like you can find I mean, that's definition of
satan is like away from God. So it's like unless
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you're Satanist, and then you stand for indulgence where Christ
was about substaining right, that's like there's nothing in the
Bible about him, know about sort of like of keeping
Christ partying like no, no, no, but it's so many
it's about staying in line, whereas in Satanism is about
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indulging yourself or like indulging whatever your urges are. But
it's not even an evil way because when you look
at like the tenants, it will be like if you
do not respect a man do not have them in
your homes. Like okay, so I don't like talk, don't
be fake with somebody and then invited into your house
and like, okay, are you satan? This is all part
of miles of this satanic profits I have to leave.
(56:50):
You are filled with satanic imagery. That is definitely true. Uh.
It's also important to note that there was a lot
of satanic imagery in there. Uh. I guess, I guess
what we define a satanic imagery might be loose definition.
But you know there are pyramids, mirrors on the floor.
I don't know what else my house, giant lions. That's
(57:11):
got to be something. Well, because like I mean, first
Peter of five verse eight, uh says be sober, be vigilant,
because your adversary, the devil, walks about like a roaring
lion seeking made devours. So she rolled up. She pulled
up on a fucking lion. So the MGM lion is Satanic,
the lion King satanic. Pink Floyd album which does have
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a pyramid on it, Oh my god, white men, So
it's okay. The dollar bill has a full of trippy
ship And isn't that ironic because the dollar money is
the our and is our God simultaneously. It's like, what
is God that I would encourage you to discuss with
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your pastor? Sarah, it has been a pleasure having you,
guys than you find you and follow you. I'm on
Twitter reluctantly Sarah Shae for one. Okay, also on Instagram
is Sarah for one. But I just launched a new podcast.
So if you like podcasts, what's your podcast? It's called
Loaner at coy Wolf Creek and it's sort of a
(58:17):
hybrid topical slash futuristic dystopian scripted podcasts. Very weird. Um
totally have a vision of what that is in my mind.
It's me in the future talking about right now. Oh interesting,
So I build sort of a world. Um, I don't
know if it's gonna work. Episode two came out today
(58:39):
Creek Loaner at coy Wolf Creek. Wolves are a new
species of coyote slash wolf slash dog that live on
the East Coast. Awesome. Kind of the smiles. Where can
people find you? You can find me, you know on
Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Greg. You co host
a podcast to right I do. Uh, what's that called ship?
(59:03):
How would people find it at this point. I don't
know if they're listening to this. Also, let me plug
if you're in l A. I'm going to be on
a show at u C. B uh called Hollywood for
Ugly people. Uh, this Saturday. Just check my Twitter. I'm
I'm pushing it. If you live in the l A area,
you want to come see me do this ship in
the flesh just myself and a few other funny people
talking to about politics. Yeah, with politics is called Hollywood
(59:27):
for Ugly people, but called d C. Yes um and uh,
speaking of podcast, checkout Culture King if you guys, Culture
King is out here. Each episode better than the last
they've been. I don't know, they're so good. That show
is perfect. But you can find me at Jack Underscore
O'Brien on Twitter. If you can find us at Daily
(59:48):
Zeitgeist on Twitter. Where at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have Facebook Campage just search daily Zeutgeist. We have
a website daily segeist dot com where we post all
our episodes on our foot Nope, we're limp off to
the sources that we use for the information we talked
about today. Uh, that is going to do it for today?
Do we have a song to ride out on. Yeah,
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you know what, because we didn't talk about Trump and
Stormy Daniels has been been talked about a lot. I
just want to put people onto a great song by
the Meters called storm It's a really good vibe. The
Meters are a great band from New Orleans who are
just you know, they're like a highly sampled band as well.
Just peepe this song by the Meters called Stormy, and
(01:00:31):
you know, just relax baby. We're trying to go into
this weekend in a peaceful way, all right, And we'll
write out on that. We will talk to you guys
tomorrow because it is the Daily podcast. Talk Um, who
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h r f O? Who you to let her head her?
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