May 21, 2025 • 67 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
There's something where that, like Girls Gone Wild was downstream
of band from TV. I think, what's this Joe Francis,
Maybe he actually had something to do with band from TV.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah he did, Yeah, Joe fran But I do I
do feel like Final Destination is completely downstream from Phases
of Death.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Somebody remember the trailer for the very first Final Destination
with I believe an actor named Devin that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, Oh for life. Man, Yeah, I'm
a SA Patch kid over here. Ship right, Okay, we
need to start. No, No, let's keep going. I gotta
let's keep let this ride.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh man, everyone's talking about the lead and showgun Anna Sawa.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's just another name.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Hey man, I'm trying to get in on fun brom
It looks like a lot of fun over it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hello the Internet, and welcome the season three eighty nine,
Episode three of Derd Diey's Guys. It's a production of
iHeart Radio. It's a podcast where you take a deep
dive into American share consciousness.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm just in a random conference room in the iHeart
Radio HQ screaming dirt. Daily's like guys, Securities band on
the door.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I can see them through the glass window, Sir, I
put my back to the glass window, so I wouldn't
like make eye contact with any corporate people. They like
walked by, you know, they're like, who's that guy? He's
a fighting a podcaster that works here. Damn they let
them in this building they do.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It is Wednesday, May twenty, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh my god, big day. It's National Juice Slush Day.
If you like a slushyet, it's your day. Although it
is juice slush so maybe it's like the juice. It's
probably the unbranded because like slushy, I think is a
brand or something. So it's like frozen flavor shit. That
for the for the kids, Uh, Emergency Medical Services for
Children Day, National Memo Day, National Weight Staff Day, and
(02:15):
National Strawberries and Cream Day.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You need to delicious ones. I'm here for National Memo Day. Yeah,
what a blast. We all love a good memo.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Does the memo exist anymore like formally within business, you know,
like because now like that's an email or that's like
a slack, you know what I mean? Like the idea
of like the memorandom what are you that?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Soy memorandum? Yeah? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Memory soy random? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't even know, like those templates, these little pink
sheets that, yeah, what were the original memos?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I actually don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It was just literally like a note, like a short
document again intended to inform a group of people about
a specific topic. A memo, madia note, email, or other
record made.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
For Yeah, that's what I think of it as, just
like any note, yeah yeah, or like in many ways,
it's just it's all it has taken over our world,
and I'm glad it's finally getting a day that we recognize.
They're like now I can't even buy a memo pad.
Everybody's tweeting off all these little memos constantly all day.
(03:27):
M hmmm hm. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien aka, and
he will blame it all.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
On wooder Ice swear it's not a blader leak. Make
you two not like it's fine and wish that he
had won some.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Depends that one's lessons here on the discord the popular
hymn on Eagles Wings. But yes, I have probably heard
as much as any song in the history of my life,
because Wow, every Sunday man that ship was popping standard standard,
a standard thrilled to be joined as always by my
(04:12):
co host, mister Miles.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Grays aka ungrouped to day ha, hallucination.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I'm working late because I'm a singer. Okay, that's it,
panoramic view. Thank you for that, AKA, I just that's
I asked you on the discord. I asked, and I said,
what is it meant to just be grock today? Hallucination?
I'm working late because I'm a singer. It's like, yeah,
I couldn't make the rest work. I'm sorry, I said, no,
this is perfect because.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I love a simple panoramic view. Dude.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Because I'm a singer is I think my favorite like
lyric in espresso.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's just like.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm working because I'm a singer.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
More.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
More musicians should just talk about how there's singersavorite songs
are those hard rock songs. They are like so fucking
hard man being on the road. Yeah, people make fun
of my long hair. You don't understand the guys say,
is that a hear a hymn the other day? Do
(05:16):
you know the song I'm talking about? Age?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I was about to say, the echoes of the amplifier
ringing in my head?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, smoke. The day's last cigarette, wondering what
she say? Yeah, yeah, as covered amazingly by the one
and only Metallica, and then it's a jam that Metallica
then covered.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah dude, Oh, I actually heard it for the first
time as a Metallica song, so I will never get
that version out of my head.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It feels like they're reaching so hard to like try
and find some like hardships that they're enduring as internationally.
During rock stars, you're just like, are like and then
all these like beautiful women are fighting over you. It's
very chaotic, you know, people try and give you their drugs.
(06:05):
I watched their documentary Some Kind of Monster on.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
A yearly basis. That's probably my favorite music documentary of
all time.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You think James Headfield is like, man, we need a
song about fucking hard it is to be Metallica.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Man, if you don't fucking know and you don't know,
man can't move to vail.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They're like, they're like, fuck it, man, did another artist
write about how hard it is being a rock star?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right, we'll just cover that. I espresso just being like Kauz,
I'm a singer, Yeah exactly. I'm working late because I'm
a singer. Okay, what else hard?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, you just want to just want to hunt some
elk and drive your whatever the rocket the powered card
thing that is that he drives. I know way too
much about that band, So we could just do a podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Who had a rocket powered car? James Hetfield.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's in some kind of monster He gets pulled over
by a cop and then the cop recognizes him and
it's a whole thing, and he like has this moment
where he's like, what do I expect?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I ride this thing? And because I don't want to
be noticed. It's like.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's kind of amazing. It's like I think I'm a narcissist.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And then they cut to Lars just like on the
couch is talking about his paintings.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, Miles, that's third voice. One of our feudis an actor,
voiceover artist, musician who stars in the certified fresh Hulu
series Deli Boys. Also it has a good Metacritics score.
We're a Metacritic podcast here. You've seen him as Ausie
and the film Aftermath on Netflix. He's been nominated for
(07:38):
an Ambi and Webby as a podcaster. He's a world
renowned rock guitarist. You know his face from Mortal Kombat.
Please welcome back to the show. Shot Ja Hon Kong.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Coming to you live from the shores of Boston, Massachusetts.
A right as planes fly overhead. Yeah, shout out logan. Yeah,
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Here it is there is there Isn't there like a
pyramid shaped hotel in Boston somewhere like on the heart
Is there.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A peer There's a like a wacky formerly known as
when Encore casino. There's a very orientalist Dodge Mahall type
situation casino. Oh, I don't know that there's a pyramid
shaped hotel. There's a there's an iconic harbor hotel in Boston.
I think I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, it's Oh it's the Regency Boston, and.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's got that big like the one that's on the
the one that's on Logan. It's on the water yeah,
Logan Campus. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, maybe any Boston people are going to probably be
thinking that I don't know the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I just remember when I was when I'm talking about
the one with a big arch in it and then
like a little Taj Mahall type thing on the like
a little bit that's that's that's the casino.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
That's the Encore casino that I was talking about. There
is also a hotel.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm talking about this thing.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh yeah, of course it's on the fucking child dude.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, exactly, of course, because that's like the.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Only situation you should have You should have said the
double step laddery pyramid.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, sorry, I should have said a Mesopotamian rectangular structure.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, Yeah, that that I would have read that ignorance.
And my father went to m I T right down
the road from that. So I'm an embarrassedment not only
to my city, but my family to super Flex. My
dad worked for Kodak.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah that's right. Ever heard of it anymore? Because they
invented the digital camera and then kind of fund themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They kind of yea, they sort of skyped themselves out
of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe he lost his pension. Moving on.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh no, have you been? It sounds sounds like busy, Ben,
I've been.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Okay, man, I've been. Uh, you know, I'm sure we'll
get into how we're all really doing. But yeah, Fortunately,
the last few years from a career standpoint, have been
a dream come true in many ways. I'm doing a
lot of things I always wanted to do. I'm very
much still a struggling artist, and I'm yeah, I'm alive man.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, hey, there it is. That's what we need. Some
people don't understand how hard it is to be a
struggling are they really out here on?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
They should really refer to this song Turn the Page
by Bob Seeker slash Metallica to really understand.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You're like in first class and everyone's looking at you
because they're like, I know, I recognize them from somewhere,
and you're like, yeah, but do they like recognize me, like,
do they actually first see me? I mean scrounging for
peanuts in first class?
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Yees?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah that's what I meant. Yeah, I'm still chewing
the ice. I've never been first I have been one
in the once in my entire life. My family got
upgraded to business class on the trip to Pakistan back
when what a British Airways still flew to Pakistan.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But I have never never flown first class ever. I'm
not saying I won't, so, I mean, if anybody wants
to hook that up like I'm down, I mean, but
surely you're hiring them from succession man. Yeah, got he's
got its first file. First, it wasn't that I lied
and said I was a New York local and you know,
packed for days of a day of work and realized
that I was going to be there for a week,
and then basically had one pair of socks and had
(11:26):
to like it was yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Did you have to? Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Were they only casting like New York locals for that?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And You're like, yeah, it was my first job that
my manage I had booked. I'd done these this film
Aftermath in twenty twenty one. Uh, and then I did
this like Lifetime Murder Mystery. Those are my two things
where I actually got lines and stuff. And then after that,
my local Boston agent we were like, yeah, maybe we
should try to get a manager. I was like, so
how do I do that? Do I just like ask
(11:51):
other actors like, hey, can I have your manager? It
didn't really work.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So they're like, well, if you don't look like me, Yeah,
that's what happens when you ask other people like, hey,
how's your manager, and like, well, they're kind of you know,
we would kind of be going out for the same stuff,
so maybe fuck off.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You know, we already got a couple of Pakistanis, so
the quota has been filled, maybe we could move, but yeah,
I started. I was then connected to my awesome manager,
Melissa Young, and you know, the first job we booked
was this character lean on Succession, supposed to be party
guest number four. You never know what these coasts and
it's my first ever TV booking. You never know what
these co star roles. I literally got the email. I
(12:30):
just jumped in my car and started driving. I was like, yeah,
it's like one line, it'll be like a day team.
I got there and she was like no, No. On the
way she's like, yeah, it's a five day booking. I
was like, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And then in the email somewhere it was something about
a green room and I was like, yeah, that means
like we're all the background actors sit together and you know,
like we just chill. And I got there first day
and it was like no, no, you have your own
hotel room with the cast is on the same floor
as you and I then from there just my mind
has continued to be blown. Everybody was super cool, but
I literally, dude, I packed for two days. I had
(13:00):
two pairs of boxers, two pairs of socks. I didn't
have enough clothes, so I like wore the bathrobe like
in the room. I like, people like, why don't we
just even go to Target and like buy other stuff.
I was like, you don't understand, like I was trying
to save money, dude, Yeah, I so it was. It
was a wild oh and I put one of the
(13:22):
dirty socks. I'm not told the story publicly, so here
we go. I put one of my dirty socks, like
to air it out, like I opened the window in
the room everything, and then the sock fell like it was.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
A while still there. It's probably the still always air.
What do you mean I always leave my shoes outside too, Yeah,
because I.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Just do it. I got a foot sweat thing. It's like, yeah,
said thank you jack.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Swat have clear like you know, I have very formative
memories from you know, basketball camp when I was ten
eleven and just everybody on the entire dorm floor that
I was staying with being like what the fuck is
that smell? And then like just dirty figure out it
was me and you.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Just trigged to memory someone before I dropped out of
calls the first time. I'm a trifecta of a dropout.
A girl I think her name was Anya. She once
entered me in my poor roommate.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Darren's room, was like, Hey, your guy's room always smells
like dirty socks?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
What's up with that?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Is that? What is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Are you an arm and hammer foot powder user?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, travel size you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, of course, no way, guys are both the
same person.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Like, yeah, you know either the army. Yeah, it's a
very specific thing. Yeah, I know, overpacked socks. So like
as you were talking about like having that experience, I
was like sweating panic. Who's the wrapper from Ribs?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Who?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Was like, you know what, I got famous so that
I could wear a new pair of socks every day?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh that?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Do you remember this episode? No?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, I mean it feels like a very Cribs thing. Yeah,
I mean Redman is the most memorable one, but I
don't know, but he would.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, he's just got frozen pizzas and stuff, and he's
like playing against sixty four on the couch. Sleep all right,
cha Jaham. We're gonna get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First, a couple of the
stories we're talking about. We're gonna I'm hearing more and
more about this AI stuff. Yeah, yeah, and we're gonna
(15:36):
look at yeah good, really good. It seems like everybody's
doing positive.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Seems like you better step your game up. Gray, that's
that we talk about this. You can't even apply some pressure.
It's it just it feels like everybody is going to
our at least bad managers are going to overextend on
this and it's break whatever product they sell to people.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But now we have but now we have proof. Yeah,
now we have proof, and we have an example of
like how they're going to back out of it and
they hate a surprise surprise. It's bad for us, bad
for all people. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk
about the Democratic Party. We'll talk about some facial recognition
cameras technology being used in New Orleans, just a fucking
(16:28):
dragnet of like terminator heads up displays in New Orleans.
Some staffing cuts that are actually killing people, some of
those Trump staffing cuts that are killing people via a tornado,
the most dramatic way someone can be killed, I feel like.
And maybe we'll talk about that new Jurassic World trailer
(16:50):
and Sesame Street all that anymore, probably we're not getting
all that with you. But before we get to that,
shah Jahan, we do like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
The last thing that I in my search history was
the benefits of freezing one's credit. I recently got kicked
off of my student loan repayment program, and yeah, I
just went down this rabbit hole of what the fuck
am I going to do? So yeah, I mean I
would there's many more interesting things about me.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, but that's what I've just one of my
top fears right now. God, wait, so how did you
get kicked off? The dude? It was the worst possible
sequence of events. So this year, because these assholes are
trying to get rid of all these income based repayment programs.
Right before they announced this, it turned out last year
was the first year that my wife and I filed
our taxes together, and I screwed myself by doing that
(17:46):
because I made whatever a fraction, oh they consider is
too much to let you know. So then I basically
got kicked off. And that was right at the time
where they froze the whole system, so I couldn't get
back on to like try to amend did and stuff,
and so we're basically just I went into forbearans like
millions of other you know, borers, and we're just kind
(18:07):
of waiting to see what happens next year. But it's
it's not looking good.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You know. I was looking I mean, I was, as
I said, I'm an artist. I was making the minimum payment,
so I was I hadn't missed a payment in ten
twelve years. If I if the IDR program still exists
next year, technically I could go back on it, I think,
and they wouldn't. I could pick up where I left off.
But you know, it's all up in the air, like right, really,
who knows, Yeah, it's gonna happen like this somehow.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The Trumpian solution is like some goon friend of his
with like a debt consolidation companies, You want me.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
To handle all these and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I get private. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
So that's why that was in my my search history.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Then went to freezing credit and unfreezing credit. Yeah, I
just was going down down the path of doom.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And if it does fuck my credit up, how do
I freeze my credit?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, exactly. I see that. I see that path. It's
it's a cool content and cloning myself.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
To steal my own identity and interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Now you're thinking outside Trump America, baby, yeah exactly. Yeah.
It's like you made payments on time for twelve years
and they're like, well, that's not how you get ahead
in this country. You've got to come up with some
weird it doesn't mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
To force them toursue you and then use your dad's
lawyer to just string them along for years till they
give up.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That's real. That's how you do it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What's something you think is underrated? Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Boy, Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Bob Dylan's underrated?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Okay, yeah, yeah, it's just a I don't know. I
don't know what it is about about mister Dylan.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Overrated. You're giving Dylan over sorry, underrated? Oh crap, crap, crap,
just that the feeling of that was so nice.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I I don't know what it is about him.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I just mister underrated, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Oh no, no, oh, sorry, over I got ship. I
don't know what it is about this asshole that I hate. Wait,
so okay, then let's do with Dylan. Dylan's overrated.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Dylan is overrated?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I feel like so. I'm
obviously a musician too. I've longest people maybe possibly maybe
possibly know me. I started this band twenty years ago
called The Kamina as an American Muslim punk rock band.
Now I play in this Providence garage act called Rubbie Chby.
I tour with a New York based artist, Sonny Singh.
(20:30):
I just I basically just invite myself into other people's
bands now, and you know, if they're like, I got
to you know, so.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I just feel like Bob Dylan, You're supposed to like him,
and I feel like I should. There's one song that
I'm that I'm down with, Desolation Row, but mostly me
and my wife just imitate his voice as if he
was singing other songs like around the House.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
By the Way, Desolately. I am a bit of a
I do like Dylan, and the Desolation Row is the
most like indulgent Dylan song where he just like goes
on and on and on like with the most random
literary illusions.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
One of my many jobs as I was dropping in
and out of college, was. I was a security guard
as my dad was working at Kodak in the building
that he was working in. I got I mentioned, I
got sober. I got fired from that job for stealing alcohol.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Hell yeah at the building. I'm not the Koda. It
was like Lowell.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It was one of these like.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Corporate Yeah you know that Kodak alcohol. You know that
Kodak High Life. Yeah, yeah, pay of film.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think those are just film developing chemicals. One of
the things you had to do there was a couple
of campuses. As a security guard.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
You have to like do tours of the campus and
like you have these little things a little like media
and you have to just kind of like tap the
like wand to like let your superiors know that you've
actually done your job. Uh. And one of the places
I had to work was in this town called Endover,
and in that and the titles like two thousand and over,
two thousand and four or five, maybe there was like
(22:06):
a computer with like MP three's that you could just
just get high and like listen to this music and
then occasionally do my job. But one of those songs
was Desolation Row and I remember because it was like
eight or nine minutes long, and for some reason, I
just my life was also kind of desolate, to be
honest at the time, so I was also trying to
maybe be like, yeah, things are tough, you know, right,
(22:29):
comfortable middle class suburban life. I'm still living with my
parents and yeah, yeah, but I understand you, Bob Dylan,
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, it's a it's a long one, and like it
just keeps being like new, like famous iconic fictional characters
keep showing up, and he's like, and incomes Romeo and
then here comes Cinderella. Wait, that's the fucking song. It's
like it's long, and the Hunchback and the Tredame it
(23:00):
shows up in the pipe.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
But I'll give him that one. Nice, you get one, Dylan, Yeah,
you get one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I'm assuming the esteemed, you know, music critic that I
am very well respected across you know, the world.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I also invite myself into a lot of people's bands,
and nobody has welcomed me in because I don't play
an instrument. So I would just say that it's it
sounds like, uh, you're a pretty good musician and well Jack.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Based on your your foot care alone, like I think
i'd take you on tour. Yeah, I could do the pedals.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I feel like people who are good musicians generally are
like this guy, Like I remember hearing the Blues Travelers
guy who's like, I guess one of the great harmonica players. Yeah,
John Popper was like yeah, but like the worst fucking
the worst harmonica player in the world. I feel like
he's like kind of an affront to like musicians in
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many ways. Yeah, there's like a big N plus one
essay about how Bob Dylan sucks shit like that, and
they like compared him to Radiohead, and they're like Radiohead
uses sounds to make meaning like a musician would, whereas
Bob Dylan is just like writing words that sounds smart.
(24:23):
It was a pretty definitive takedown, but I still I
still fucks with him, but he I feel like he
got away with a whole hell of a lot. You
can like go back and read reviews of his albums
from the seventies and man, they're just like doing there
sweating to like make his shit sound like it's the
neck that like, and this song clearly about Vietnam and
(24:48):
it's making interesting points, and it's like he's like just
mad at an ex girlfriend and calling her an idiot
over and over again.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Let me actually answer it correctly this time. I'm gonna
go with the band Corn. Okay, I think the band
Corn is underrated. I got into them a little bit
late in life. And what I say late in life,
I literally mean a couple of years ago, like wow,
in high school, like it was like, yeah, you can't
listen to that shit. But I think their twenty twenty
two record is a masterpiece. I will say that ply wow.
(25:24):
Wait their album from three, I haven't day Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm not saying everything they've done is great. I'm not
saying they're great people. Let me emphasize, I'm not saying
they're great people. You don't like Christian fundamentalism.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Their music is underrated, right, I've never had a pleasure
or misfortunate just.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
A guitarist that way Christian?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Right, it was it. Jonathan also Davis also like, oh
I don't I'm not sure I should be watching Head
with some headwar fans might know is a Head or
Head or Monkey?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They're the two guitar.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, there's Head and there's Monkey.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I was watching this super guitar NERD show called a
Mere Guitar rig Rundown with they have all them and
then they have field Y the bassist, and I think
that and the Deft Tones are probably my two favorite
rig Rundown episodes because field is like yeah, so like
or no, maybe it was head. He was like so,
like I'm not good but like people, but it's like cool,
(26:20):
it's fine. And then with Deftones Steph Carpenter, Like the
host of the show is this guy John Bolinger. He's
adorable and he's like, hey, man, like, just tell me
about all your stuff. And he's like, yo, listen, and
he's like, you know, why do you have all these
what is your guitar? Like, he's like, listen, I just
got Louis Vuitton on my guitar because I think it
looks like like like that's basically why.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I wish I could give you an answer that was
deeper than a sixth grader.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
We'll tell you. Man is so disappointed because he's used
to people being like yeah, like well.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Like French colonial concept of luxury around in a French
colonial context and you're like, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Interesting corn. Yeah, they're definitely like I dismissed them out
of hand for for no good reason. I'm sure in
my when they were first out and then but then
like I've heard I think I've heard like isolated vocals
of like their singer doing like his like weird like
(27:19):
sanding thing. Damn, this guy is like doing like something
is coming through him from another world. You know, It's
like there is there is a gift there that is
like kind of impressive and kind of remarkable.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, I just I would. I think I was only
like in a vacuum. It was just the follow the
Leader era when you know, like at the height of
their powers. That at the time, I was like, bro,
Corn is for like the white kids whose parents got
divorced in first grade, and like it wasn't quite connected
with me. And then my parents got divorced, and then
I was like, you were like you know, and I.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Was like, yeah, aren't really notes, man, They're just so yeah,
oh wow, God hates me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, let's fucking go. Their unplugged album is pretty wild.
It has a they didn't unplugged. They didn't Oh my god,
it's ridiculous. From Amy whatever name is, from Evan Essence, it's.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Pretty Oh my goodness, I didn't even mention that thank you, Miles.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I was too busy listening to On Eagle's Wings and
following the leader thank you. Yeah, as as they instructed
in the title of their album, thank You, thank You,
light years ahead of their time, that's right, let's take
a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back.
(28:50):
We're back, and man, so what do you think of
this AI stuff? I do, Like, I had conversations with
people that's past the past couple of weeks, just like
people who like work for like big corporations, and I'm
just like, so, what do you think of this like
AI stuff? And they're all, I don't know, a little mystified,
(29:13):
but they're like, yeah, it's definitely like a tool that
we're all going to have to learn how to use,
and it might replace all of our jobs in the
next like six months.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I feel like here in Boston, right outside of before
you get onto, uh the entrance ramp to Logan Airport,
there's this giant billboard which says stop hiring humans. It's
this company.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I forget that, I forget the company I've seen before weeks. Dude, Yeah, yeah,
it's I think we should be setting fire to those signs.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Basically that sounds like an attack on me. The work sucks,
So that's the other thing to take where it sucks
and people hate it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So how do how do how do I benefit from
all the productivity from the machines? There is that in
your plan or no going up to the C suite?
But yeah, I have the same thing too, where like
people ask them like, hey man, you talk about then,
like what do you think AI? And they do it
in a way that's like they don't know where you're at,
and they don't even know where they're at on AI, Yeah,
(30:12):
and just basically going like I don't know. It's like exactly, dude,
they're making me use it at work and I don't
fucking like it does ship, But I don't know what anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So the one thing I've heard that is that seems
good to me, like it seems like a good tool
is somebody who's like we did like a series of
interviews with like clients, and they I transcribed it and
then like synthesized it and like put it all in
a database that we could like I don't know, like
(30:41):
learn from and like access much easier than before. Yeah,
sounds like I mean a tool, a tool that you Yeah, exactly,
it sounds like a tool. It's like, yeah that that okay,
that's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's like the direction that you know, one positive about
it is like war, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, and it's also gonna make our bombs really smart. Yeah,
I know, we all thought they were smart before, but
now it's gonna be go directly up the enemy's asshole?
Is how Yeah, precise, it's going to be. No, it's
it just yeah, it's a tool. That's like I don't know,
if somebody told me that a computer program could do that,
(31:18):
I'd be like, oh, that's a cool tool. That is
about what I would expect technology to be doing. Yeah.
But like all of the over promising of AI is
like invading the C suite, And now they're like, so
we don't need people anymore, right, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And now we're at a point where finally, the reason
we're talking about this is because now we're getting more
and more groans from the companies that said, yeah, fuck people, man,
we're all this automation.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Shit sounds fucking dope.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That company Klarna, the buy now, pay later service, they
were huge on replacing human beings with AI so much
so they completely stopped hiring humans too. You seeing that billboard, Yeah,
the one No, I don't know, No, I mean this
is the buy now, pay later service, So maybe maybe
this CEO did see it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But then this is from Vice. Quote.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
By twenty twenty four, it had partnered with Open AI,
slashed customer service and marketing departments, and publicly declared that
quote AI can already do all of the jobs that
we as humans do, according to their CEO, And then
they're like, all right after, like, we saved ten million
dollars because AI can now handle things like making images,
translation data analysis, and customer service. But yeah, we like
(32:29):
customer service, like that thing where being a human and
having like empathy like helps that experience.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, that's the same customer service we're talking about here,
So real quick on those first few things, making images, translation,
data analysis, who's telling the AI what images to make
and like what data to analyze and then trying to
get me to a gotcha thing?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Definitely all benevolent actors. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I know you want me to say human beings, Jack,
but actually they installed AI overseer as they over.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That grim Off Tarkin overseer AI.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's a really problematic name, but hey, they keep the
other ais in check. Well, now the CEO is realizing
people fucking wow hate dealing with automated customer service and
that's like one of like I feel like we need
to add like a new truth. It's like death taxes
and we hate fucking automated customer service prompts, like every
time you talk to a human human representative, that's like ALLSOM,
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that's every call with an automated customer service agent.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So the CEO goes to my mind again a grocer
at the grocery store. Dude, I'm like, I'll I will
have every like I'll be psyched to like scan the
ship myself, but inevitably I'm gonna suck it up and
then I'll be I'll be the person with the blinking
you know. Oh yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's so frustrating when you are trying to buy like
it and then you fuck it up.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I did that with a box of diapers the other day,
and well you scan the wrong a barcode and I go,
what the fuck do you barcodes? Yeah, I'm like, I
bricked the system by scanning it like it's this one.
I'm like, how the fuck should I know that this
is the biggest barcode on the fucking box and you're
telling me this one is the one that shuts down
your fucking checkout system.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Anyway, You're going to hear about this in your employee
review at Rapp's this coming quarter end of quarter. I know,
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So now the CEO has had to basically admit that
this was a huge l and they have to hire
human beings again. Quote this is from their CEO.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
From a brand perspective, a company perspective.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I just think it's so critical that you are clear
to your customer that there will always be a human
if you want. Uh. Cost unfortunately, seems to have been
a two predominant evaluation factor, and what you end up
having is lower quality.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
The option thing is interesting to me. So this is
something I was specifically thinking about this week because so
one of the things that I do, which I don't
know how long is going to be a career, is
narrate audiobooks, And just last week Audible, for example, announced
that they're going to have an AI option for publishers
as well as you know, you can hire me like
another charactor. Yeah, and obviously like, dude, look, I understand
(35:22):
if like some an indie author you know, doesn't have
the money to like fork over, to like hire me
or hire a whole studio to do shit. And I
definitely lost one of my largest voiceover clients, who shall
remain nameless this year. I'm pretty sure because of AI.
I'd been doing stuff for them for a couple of
years and then I no one even reached out to me,
(35:43):
and then they stopped responding to my emails, and then
I know that the stuff is still being made. So
and even with my Mortal Kombat stuff, like even though
that all happened, I would say three four years ago,
a couple of years before. This discussion was maybe more
in the in the public consciousness, you know, before the
strike and stuff. So yeah, man, I don't know. I
don't know where all the shit's going.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, it's it's hard to know.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And like with this, right, they're always like, no, I
don't replace things like customer service. Then they try it
and they're like, a shit, that was bad our customers
fucking hate us. It's actually affecting our business negatively.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And if I want to hear the like positive use
like zeitgang. Anybody listening, like just hit me with like
the the examples where like somebody's given something to AI
and it's like created something that was like good other
than I mean, we've talked about like some scientific breakthroughs
like the you know, decoding the shape of proteins of proteins,
(36:37):
like that stuff is great, But I'm talking more about
the stuff that they we keep hearing them try to
do where it like replaces a whole workforce and that
there's not like a noticeable drop in quality. It just
feels like it never happens.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I know people who have to use it at work
and they say, like the latest chat GPT is like
a fucking it's like worse and they hate it, and yeah,
yeah they had to they had to be like take
it back and be like, oh, oh yeah, I think
it all depends on what you do, because like I think,
I always bring it up, like people who I know
in grant writing, they're like, I fucking thank God for
this because like I hate grant writing and and just
(37:14):
get into a bulk of already the work I have
to do as a great like in char of what
I do at a nonprofit, but like it has now
freed me up.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
To do other things anyway. As a tool.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm saying. It's a tool, and
I think that's where you see the use cases. You're like,
as a tool, not as a replacement for a human being.
So now Klarna is fucking rehiring human beings, but not
as employees like they once had. They are now hiring
people as remote gig workers, so they're not like so
that way they can handle customer service calls from wherever
(37:44):
they're at. And also they don't get any benefits or
the job stability of having like full time employment because
they're like, you know, you guys are gig workers, and
now we found a thing that kind of you know,
threads the needle. So this seems to be like a
trend across business. Now people get hype for AI and
then immediately regret it because it's not actually intelligent at all,
and they're like, this thing's a fucking teddy ruckspin that
(38:05):
does memes essentially, and I can't do anything for my business.
This is another thing from a Carnegie Mellon study found
over half of UK business leaders who rush to replace
human jobs with AI say they now regret it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
They said.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
They found that the study found that even the best
AI workers could only complete about a quarter of basic tasks.
So again I don't like it. It's really in these
narrow fields where unfortunately, like voiceover and things like that,
they found a way to just like plug shit in
because there's now you there are so many like zombie
YouTube channels that they're just getting. Yeah, they just put
(38:41):
together bodycam footage from police and they'd be like on
and it's just like on October fourteenth, twenty twenty four,
the park Linds and just shows you bodycam footage a
little bit of commentary. It's the most obvious AI voice shit,
And I don't know like it. People are kind of
like I don't know, I yes, this is fine.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
The ones I keep seeing are like the like cooking,
this is whatever, it's my algorithm or something, but like cooking,
like this is the greatest recipe ever. Just take three eggs,
a piece of broccoli and some rappercorn, you know, like
that kind of show.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
That you have three egg broccoli peppercorn. Oh thanks, a
wonderful dish.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But yeah, I mean I think that's the thing that's
freaky now about AI with this sort of Klarna example,
and other companies that are doing the thing where like
they fire their actual employees, take a swing on AI,
and then they're like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
It, We'll bring people back as gig workers.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
And now we're actually saving money on benefits because we're
not having to provide any for these people.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And I'm like, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
That's maybe that's at the moment, that seems like the
biggest threat too in a lot of in a more
pronounced way, is full time employment.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Anything that happens at this stage, at this late stage capitalism.
Under this late stage capitalism, like structure, anything that happens,
whether it be pandemic, whether it be war, whether it
be you know, change who whatever the changes and presidency,
it's always an excuse to fuck people, like fuck you know,
(40:09):
fuck over employees and funnel money upward. So like you know,
line go up and stock prices go up, they will
use that money to do stock buybacks. Line go down,
They fire employees and like nobody in the c suite
gets touched AI. You know, they overstretch on AI, they
(40:31):
overestimate what it's able to do. They fire all the employees,
and then they're like, oops, are bad they hire them
back at like worse. It's just it's going it's an
inevitability because workers are just completely unprotected under this system, right,
and it's just going to keep happening until there's like
massive structural change that doesn't even seem like it's in
(40:52):
the conversation to happen right now unfortunately. So, yeah, it
feels like AI and everything is just going to be
an excuse to continue to make life worse in America
for the vast, vast majority of people.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's also wild too, because I remember when they were
first talking about They're like, man, like the possibilities with automation.
Now we've maybe if we need to start talking about
a universal basic income from the gains that will get
from A do that shit.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Nobody's saying shit about that anymore.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It's like, I don't know, we dooped enough people on
Wall Street now that like there's too much momentum going
to fucking stop this.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
They'll probably bring it back like as the next stage
of this, and it'll be like way too low. And
also the AI will still suck shit at its job,
and so the like things will be getting done worse
by AI, and people will be like living on a
lower or.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
The dystopian version is like, come work at a company
town to be like the slight human handler for an AI.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But you're only going to work like an hour a day.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Yeah, enjoying your bug paste cubes exactly. Yeah, hey, only
three bug paste cubes, you dick. That's it's not our fault.
This guy's getting greedy with the bug paste jubes.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Jesus cracty. All right, should we do it. Let's just
knock another dystopian story out here real quick, just.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
To let's go with the staff cuts at the federal
level that are leaving people open to you know, deadlier
weather events that there was.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
This is wild.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I actually hadn't heard about this.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, there were. There were were tornadoes in eastern Kentucky
that killed twenty three people at least. The governor said
that the death toll is expected to rise. The deadliest
tornado of twenty twenty four, you know, seven people were
killed in Texas. This was twenty three.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
People think it's now twenty seven between Missouri and Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, yeah, like that's the like seven was the most
that died total in twenty twenty four in any individual state.
They're twenty three in Kentucky in like one event, And
so obviously we asked the question, how are tornadoes getting deadlier? Sure,
it can't be climate change because we don't believe in
that here in Kentucky in the South. In unrelated news,
(43:06):
the portion of the state of Kentucky where the deaths
occurred was served by a forecast office that, following all
the federal cuts from DOGE at the beginning of the
Trump administration, no longer has overnight staff. Yeah, and these
tornadoes happen tonight. That's like, and it's not just there.
Alaska has the same thing where there's no overnight coverage.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Parts of California, has affected Texas, Louisiana, Like you said, Kentucky,
it's all like many places are now I don't know
the work they.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Just can't afford. Yeah, it's just like a very straightforward, Oh,
this thing they're doing is really bad and we're going
to see the consequences soon. We're seeing the consequences, and
people are just kind of like, I don't know, gets
buried with a bunch of other news. But I am
hoping that tornadoes do the right thing and start keeping
to bankers hours going forward, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I will say watching the original twister followed by the
most recent one is a good idea if anybody's wondering.
Yeah yeah, and right after the other, yeah, bang bang
time absolutely a twister bang bang yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
If you read Project twenty twenty five, because like that's
all part of like just they're like, fuck the Weather Service.
This is in the part about the Weather Service quote.
This industry's mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed
around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable. And
they're like, and therefore, fucking Okay, we're rich. We don't
(44:30):
live in you know, trailer parks, so we're not gonna
get pulled away by it.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Oh I'm sorry. Was there?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
What was the last time a tornado hit Manhattan?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I think will be a chuckle? Yeah right, yeah, seems bad.
Seems bad. Let's take a quick break and we'll be
back to talk about Jurassic Park or some some other shit.
(45:02):
And we're back. We're back. And did you guys see
the new Jurassic World rebirth trailer?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I actually I saw that.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
It came out like two days ago, and I stopped
myself because I'm kind of excited.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
That I don't want to see too.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
I didn't watch the trailer yet.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I'm a little bit excited about it too because the
so the one thing that's giving me hope is that
Gareth Edwards is directing it. He's a guy who made
like Rogue one and the Creator and like started off
with an indie movie that like was somehow like a
low budget indie movie that also was about giant monsters.
(45:40):
And he also made that Godzilla movie that was like
kind of divisive but a massive hit. But like he's
always with puff Daddy and Jimmy Page. That one, not
that one. No no, no, no no. That one's like
a universal disaster. Everybody agreed that one sucks shit that
I think that was.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
That was the Ken Wattanabe one when he when he
first joined That one that's from him.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That was rolling Emeric.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I think, hey, man, that soundtrack was hot. I'm just
saying never I remember the best raid one of the
best rage songs, No Shelter, Yeah, man, that was so
much good stuff. I had that soundtrack, you remember why
Deeper Underground. That was the first time I heard that song.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I remember I buying that soundtrack and my dad was like,
why are you listening?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Nick?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
What is this remix of Kashmir?
Speaker 2 (46:26):
And I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I'm like, this has come with me? Puff Daddy him,
no surprise, come with me and You're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
What is? And then the SNL performance were Jimmy Page
and Puff Daddy.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Shore and then I remember my dad was like, you'd
really fuck with led Zeppelin if you think this is good?
And I'm like all right, and then that's when he
I remember he talked to me about John Bonham for
fifteen minutes and I I got so bored.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I remember, like, dude, I got a fucking oh wow,
I get it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
He somehow plays just behind the beat for this interesting
pocket feel.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I don't give a fuck, right, but the only used
one mic his son tried to do. He didn't quite
have the same chops as Bonzo.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm like, okay, fuck, dude, can we go to Taco
Bell to get this Gordiina. I'm trying to get the
Z piece to spell out Godzilla to win this family
a fucking billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I feel like that was the least that Diddy like
did not add a lot to that song. I'm going
to say and I know it's controversial to speak ill
of Diddy right now. No, literally, like metrically speaking, I
don't think he added much. Yeah, No, he would just
like kind of shouted over it. He's like, what if
Kashmir was this other song I yelled on top of Yeah?
(47:42):
What if I yelled on top of cash? Would that
be cool? But anyways, this director has always seemed faded.
To make a Jurassic Park movie. They are dropping these
things fast and furious. They're just you know, they they
ended the last trilogy and and this must have already
been in production. They were like the final Jurassic One.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I just saw the original. I have never seen you
after that. The original Jurassic Park is a perfect film.
It's very good, still holds up.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Every time they re release it, I go see it
because I'm permanently stuck at like nine years old when
it from me when it came out, and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Oh, totally.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
That's also why, for whatever reason, I think, you know,
I've had a tough year. I think I need this
to be my regression, to regress in the purest fucking way.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Don't fuck this up for me, Gareth. They haven't so
here's the thing that they haven't tried doing since the
first Jurassic Park is they haven't tried making a good one. Yeah,
I mean I guess they tried. Maybe day I could
help them with that. Thank you, this is you're a
couple of steps ahead of me. But I caught that lot.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Steven Spielberg made the second one, and it was like
it had some amazing sequences, but overall it was pretty bad.
So that not one of Steven Spielberg's best movies. And
they I feel like Jurassic World, the reboot, like after
the first three that were like based around the original movie,
(49:15):
the reboot Jurassic World, like I kind of think of
that as the point at which we were fucked as
like film goers, because it is it's the perfect encapsulation
of this new model where instead of like people who
love movies being the head of like development in studios,
(49:37):
they had marketing teams as the head of studios, and
like they were just like, well, we got to like
make a Jurassic Park movie where like the park's actually open, right,
and it's like, yeah, that's a that is an easy
movie to make, Like great trailers for and like ads
around and like the premise is just like fucking surefire,
(50:00):
and then you know the notes like apparently it was
just an impossible movie to make and it was kind
of a mess. It was very like me. So there
there is a drastic park ride that is based around
rafts that is like kind of the main one I
think at Universal and that one is it. Like people
(50:20):
were always like it's kind of weird because the book
that the original movie is based on like the centerpiece,
like the most exciting sequence and kind of the most
like cinematic. The first one, like after reading the book
that as a like twelve year old, I was like, well,
that's gonna be an awesome movie. Scene is a raft chase,
and Spielberg just didn't end up putting it in because
(50:42):
they had plenty without it. I guess that they have
put in this movie. This movie is written by the
writer of the original Drass Park screenplay, and it like
the trailer is like heavily featuring this raft chase where
like a t rex is like chasing them down a river.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
I remember they they showed a section of it in
the first one.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I was like, whoa, Yeah, they really kind of let
you know that this is gonna they really let it
breathe in this one.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
There's something terrifying though about like a t Rex being
slowed by water and you're in a boat. Like that's
even more psychologically fucked up. We're like, yeah, fuck, I
look the water resistance slow. Yeah, because at least they
were in the jeep when they were running from the
t rex in the first one.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, have you ever been like trying to run in
water as fast for a rex? Ye? Rex? Yea in there. Yeah,
but yeah, Spielberg apparently storyboarded the sequence for the original movie.
They just never shot it. I think it was also
like crazy expensive when you.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Look at between it was probably between that and the
part where the dinosaurs eat the dude in the in
the bathroom stall.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, the lawyer they chose wisely get the lobviously. Yeah,
when you look at the making of that original movie,
it's like there's a lot of it's kind of a
mirror because like so little of it is actually CGI,
Like most of it's just puppets and shit like that,
and then they just like mixed in moments of CGI,
which is why so much CGI since then has been
(52:12):
so fucked because everyone was like, well, they did Jurassic
Park with CGI some some Yeah, they did some. CGI
was like seventy percent amazing, like the best in class
practical effects we'd seen on film up to that point,
plus like some shading from the CGI. Yeah, It's like
it's still fucking stan Winston's genius that made that film possible.
(52:36):
It's like his creatures, the Stan Winston creatures are like
the fucking real engine of that movie visually. Yeah. But
our writer JM McNab was, he's he's been on this
for a while like that first his theory is that
Steven Spielberg even like made Jurassic Park in the first
place because he gets a cut of Universal Studios money,
(52:59):
And he was like, this is going to be a
sick ride. People are going to go to this. This
is gonna be like the best ride that I've ever made.
And he also points out like the ride is based
on that scene in the movie. So there there's always
a chance that Spielberg is like kind of pulling the
strings here to be like, what if we did we
finally made the river Reft ride.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, Well, because then I guess his first bite of
the apple would have been the et Adventure as a
universal ride. That's probably the thing that got him the
deal where they're like, hey, man, if you want to
like make some rides based on your movies, like we'll
give you a cut of the gate at the parks.
And the ET ride was fine. I mean, the ET
did say your name at the end. If it was
(53:44):
in a name of a database of traditional names, a
computer could say some traditionals, yeah, because I remember I
remember going with my Japanese cousin. Her name's Misakle, and
I'm Miles. In the beginning, they're like say your name
or you type it in, and it was like goodbye Miles,
and then they're like, it's gonna say your name Mesucle
and is like just it was just like shipry, like yeah, yeah,
(54:11):
but Martha.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Or something goodbye honey, good good bye sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Here.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, but anyways, I don't know. The Rebirth subtitle is
actually giving Friday the thirteenth sequel where they like made
a Jason Dies movie and then we're already in production
on the like Jason Lives one like that. They're just
like cranked out, but a lot of the big action
(54:41):
moments actually are like have dinosaurs coming out of the water,
which kind of reminds me of Jaws. I feel like
it's it's giving Jaws. Johansen is like shooting one of
the dinosaurs with like a spear gun, just like in Jaws.
So I saw the trailer.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
There was like mega dinosaur that like flops out of
the water next.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
To that boat, and I was like, mustsaurus.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah wow, Oh well you said the dinosaur's name, like
you're hanging out with your kids a bunch who probably you're.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
Clearly book for this. There's a there's a cute children's
book called Papasaurus and one one of the dinosaur friends
that this this kid is playing this dinosaur kid is
playing hide and seek with his dad, and one of
the dinosaurs he visits task if they've seen his dad
is the mostasaurus, and that most of the saurus is
a little nicer than the one in this trailer. Oh wow,
(55:33):
thank you. That.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Okay, so it's not scary, it's not scary, Okay, watch it.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
I'll watch it.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
But yeah, and sorry, did you say muscle saurus mosa mosa?
Okay I'm thinking like proteinosaurus or something.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
No, yeah, yeah, ripped, that's the credat kreodactyl.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
I think there's some dactyls in this one. That is
my favorite thing about this. The later movies, I guess
they didn't really have the ability to dactyls.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, to get technically dinosaurs get sucked up in the
sky by a fucking pterodactyl's that's that's big money.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Bro sucked off into that.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
That's a fatality right there.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Exactly fatality. All right. So we do want to end
on some good news, and that is that, according to
a new study, the universe and everything in it will
decay into nothingness way sooner than anyone expected.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Oh thank god, my yeah, that's the that's the ideal thing.
We all go together and we don't have to feel bad,
you know. So what is it like in like three
weeks or what are you hey? I you know, yeah, yeah,
let it dude, let's ghibbly mean it up a job, yeah, before.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Bearing on, my love. It's all good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
So they used to think it was going to be
ten to the power of one eleven hundred years. They
used to think it was going to be ten to
the power of eleven hundred years. But now it's apparently
going to be ten to the power of seventy eight
years so one followed by seventy eight zeros, and that's
soon sooner.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
So this is the true.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah, by orders of magnitude, I guess seventy eight and
eleven hundred.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Ah well, all right, fine. I woke up a little
earlier this morning. Once I read this news, I was like,
I got some shit to do, man.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
I got to grind it out, dude, add those add
that extra Yeah, get my affairs in order. You start
talking like a grindset, dude. You're like, nah, dude, I
saw that headline about the universe. Any I woke up
an hour earlier. Okay, add that up over a week.
I've got a slight advantage over you. Add that up
over a half a year. I definitely have. I've been
doing about a three weeks more worth of work than
(57:49):
you have. Add that over ten years, man, I'm gone.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
You win. Gone. In the morning, I'm standing over you, shredded, shirtless,
and guess what I and I'm the doctor. I just
delivered you for birth. We started to clock over. That's
how ahead of my time. I am. Okay, counting my money,
counting my big coin.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
That's an actual thing I saw on a YouTube short
where guys like you got to think of this way. Man,
I'm waking up with those two extra hours, I don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
You had that up.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
He like extrapolates that, He's like, within three years, I've
actually done seven lifetimes worth the work that you haven't,
and that you're like, no, you just sound sleep like
thirty five companies. Yeah, no, precisely. It's that kind of
like just very loose logic. We're like, yeah, thirty five companies.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
I've bought way more crypto. I've lost like three teeth
because I started doing ice baths.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Man, Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
But yeah, so this is because the universe will gradually
decay due to Hawking radiation first propose by Stephen Hawking,
which involves particles and quantum fluctuations and a bunch of stuff.
I totally understand about black holes that I'm not gonna
bore you guys with right now now, even though, like
I said, I understand it it's boring to you too.
(59:06):
I fine, like you, I can see how it would
be boring.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
I'm pretty interested, So like, what can he kind of
explain that?
Speaker 2 (59:13):
So that's all the time we have for today's kind
of a shorter episode. No you sure? Or like what?
It all comes back to black holes? How you understand?
And some where black holes event horizon the intense viational
field prevents annihilation. Obviously we all know that, right sure?
(59:37):
Do you ever be like.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
A physicist or a scientist to have like something named
after you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (59:43):
I mean, unless you want to be Do I get
into that, like, unless somebody wants to name it after me? Well,
you know when they're which I would recommend Brian Bullshit scale,
the Buster dude, he's the charge.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
The O'Brien scale, it's a three point six on the open.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Basically, So the event horizon process that I was just
describing that we all understand over long time scales, Howkings
theory suggests, and this is just how I talk. I'm
not quoting space dot Com here, over long time scales.
Hawkings theory suggests. This process causes the black hole to
slowly evaporate, eventually vanishing, and once that happens, all bets
(01:00:26):
are off. You know. Wow, oh wow, so easy to
get her.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I'm just like, I'm like, how but what would the
experience like? Do we all just like like go to
turn to dust like some fanos slap snap. But then
I'm reading about how the end of the universe would
cause a big crunch where everything goes and then that
would set off another big bang and we start the
universe all over again.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Kind of beautiful, kind of it'll like be a big crunch,
and then we'll realize we were just like some particle
in some other like vast thing. We're just like minuscule
dust on the app some some other thing to black,
fade to black. And then Bob Dylan song comes up,
so Mona. He was saying, and they and you said
(01:01:12):
that you and your wife sing other music and Bob
Dylan's boice. What's the what's the best match you found there?
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Oh man, oh god, can I think of something else?
Speaker 8 (01:01:22):
Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I don't know, maybe like something like green Day, I said.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Going down Rodeale with my shotgun, with my shotgun.
Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
Brand, They're like a tea wagon.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I want the machines that are making them. Shot you,
Hong Kong, such a pleasure on the Daily's like, where
is the pleasure guy? Find you? Follow you all that
good stuff on the one thing that I am on Instagram.
I suppose I still use the name that you know
it's my name, and maybe a little cultural reference Shahjastan
(01:02:11):
because I'm you know, I'm definitely the only one that's
ever thought of something like that. S H A H
J I S T A N.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
And please, for the love of God, watch Deli Boys,
so we can get a second seasons, get be employed
because as I told you, my my loans are in forbearance,
so come on, I would love to keep being able
to chip away at those.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
And also, yes, watch after Math on Netflix. I play
an ethnically ambiguous action hero in a movie about terrorists
where I am not a terrorist. So I want wow
there in your face, Hollywood, in your face? Or also,
good job Hollywood, I guess please hire. Is there a
work of media that you've been enjoying. I will give
(01:02:51):
a shout out to my friend Kareem Rahama's Subway Takes
and specifically the episode featuring the creator of Delhi. Bo
is up the less talking about how men are the
most the more emotional out of in the two gender situation,
not that it's only you know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah, I feel in the in the binary perspective, in
the binary world.
Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Thank you thank you, Miles.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Miles, Huh, where can people find you?
Speaker 9 (01:03:19):
And is that media trying me on the corner pushing
dope with the dope boys? You know rappers is talking
to me as if we're in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I tell them quick, no, I move Coke find me
everywhere at Miles of Gray. Uh what else?
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Basketball podcast Myles and Jack got mad boost as I
just I fully morph into a knickspan.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Okay, it's just it's time baby. Oh and I don't
know Sajahrne. You a Celtics fan? I know are you from?
Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
I don't watch sports in any way?
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Great, fantastic you are.
Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
You have transcended and if I did, I definitely would
not watch Boston Sports.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
All right, good guy, he was a good egg. I
knew he's a good egg.
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But anyway, Yeah, Jack on Mad Boosey's for NBA Talk
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Yeah, a working media I'm liking.
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is from at in visit hole dot Besky dot Social.
I'll be saying, explain yourself for every good morning I
get tomorrow. I just like the idea of just clapping
back immediately and then uh the Onion at the onion
dot com on Blue Sky, I posted Republican infighting your
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reps over whether Trump Bill beautiful or handsome.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I'd also love to shout out am radio traffic on
the threes. Hell yeah, great traffic on the traffic on
the threes. They've been doing him for a while now.
Fucking just up I in the sky and I and
the You know that is such a fucking grandiose name
for what they're doing. Where your eye in the sky.
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You know that word that people made for God? That's us. Yeah,
up here checking out traffic patterns a workimedia I've been enjoying.
L bark at Franz Sherbet tweeted me to my AI
enabled smart fridge in twenty thirty eight, do we have
any milk left my fridge? Wow? Now that's a question
(01:05:22):
worth exploring. By asking me something like that, you've proven
that you're not thinking in ordinary ways. You're dialed into
what's really vital about food. Let's dive in my god,
you fridge, we just go back to ice boxes? Man, Hey,
hawkings radiation? Could we knock this out by Uh? Yeah,
(01:05:45):
I just did what my twenty thirty hawkings a Hawking, Hey,
Brad Pitt's and.
Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Hey, it's like the Thunders versus the Pelican later much.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
You can find me on Twitter at jack Undersquirrel, running
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We're at the Daily Zeikeist. On Instagram, you can go
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and there you will find the footnote, which is where
we link off to the information that we talked about
(01:06:16):
in today's episode. We also link off to a song
that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there
a song you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I encounter a lot of interesting music on
TikTok because my algorithm is mostly like interesting music, but
then also trends that are happening there. And there's so
many people I've seen just dancing to this like slow
down version of Sam Galatri's Assumptions and just doing like
a like a ballroom dance to it.
Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Whatever. That's the TikTok trend.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
But there's actually an amazing k Tranada remix of Assumptions
by Sam Gallatry and that's the track I want to.
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Go out on.
Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
It's the Assumptions k Tranada edit of Sam Gala Trees
or Galatries Assumptions G E L L A I t
R Y anyway search Patronata assumptions. It's going to come
up and it's a banger.
Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
All right. We will link off to that in the
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There's something where that, like Girls Gone Wild was downstream
of band from TV. I think, what's this Joe Francis,
Maybe he actually had something to do with band from TV.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah he did, Yeah, Joe fran But I do I
do feel like Final Destination is completely downstream from Phases
of Death.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Somebody remember the trailer for the very first Final Destination
with I believe an actor named Devin that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, Oh for life. Man, Yeah, I'm
a SA Patch kid over here. Ship right, Okay, we
need to start. No, No, let's keep going. I gotta
let's keep let this ride.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh man, everyone's talking about the lead and showgun Anna Sawa.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's just another name.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Hey man, I'm trying to get in on fun brom
It looks like a lot of fun over it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hello the Internet, and welcome the season three eighty nine,
Episode three of Derd Diey's Guys. It's a production of
iHeart Radio. It's a podcast where you take a deep
dive into American share consciousness.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm just in a random conference room in the iHeart
Radio HQ screaming dirt. Daily's like guys, Securities band on
the door.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I can see them through the glass window, Sir, I
put my back to the glass window, so I wouldn't
like make eye contact with any corporate people. They like
walked by, you know, they're like, who's that guy? He's
a fighting a podcaster that works here. Damn they let
them in this building they do.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It is Wednesday, May twenty, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh my god, big day. It's National Juice Slush Day.
If you like a slushyet, it's your day. Although it
is juice slush so maybe it's like the juice. It's
probably the unbranded because like slushy, I think is a
brand or something. So it's like frozen flavor shit. That
for the for the kids, Uh, Emergency Medical Services for
Children Day, National Memo Day, National Weight Staff Day, and
(02:15):
National Strawberries and Cream Day.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You need to delicious ones. I'm here for National Memo Day. Yeah,
what a blast. We all love a good memo.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Does the memo exist anymore like formally within business, you know,
like because now like that's an email or that's like
a slack, you know what I mean? Like the idea
of like the memorandom what are you that?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Soy memorandum? Yeah? Sorry?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Memory soy random? Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't even know, like those templates, these little pink
sheets that, yeah, what were the original memos?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I actually don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It was just literally like a note, like a short
document again intended to inform a group of people about
a specific topic. A memo, madia note, email, or other
record made.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
For Yeah, that's what I think of it as, just
like any note, yeah yeah, or like in many ways,
it's just it's all it has taken over our world,
and I'm glad it's finally getting a day that we recognize.
They're like now I can't even buy a memo pad.
Everybody's tweeting off all these little memos constantly all day.
(03:27):
M hmmm hm. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien aka, and
he will blame it all.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
On wooder Ice swear it's not a blader leak. Make
you two not like it's fine and wish that he
had won some.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Depends that one's lessons here on the discord the popular
hymn on Eagles Wings. But yes, I have probably heard
as much as any song in the history of my life,
because Wow, every Sunday man that ship was popping standard standard,
a standard thrilled to be joined as always by my
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co host, mister Miles.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Grays aka ungrouped to day ha, hallucination.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I'm working late because I'm a singer. Okay, that's it,
panoramic view. Thank you for that, AKA, I just that's
I asked you on the discord. I asked, and I said,
what is it meant to just be grock today? Hallucination?
I'm working late because I'm a singer. It's like, yeah,
I couldn't make the rest work. I'm sorry, I said, no,
this is perfect because.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I love a simple panoramic view. Dude.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Because I'm a singer is I think my favorite like
lyric in espresso.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It's just like.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm working because I'm a singer.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, no.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
More.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
More musicians should just talk about how there's singersavorite songs
are those hard rock songs. They are like so fucking
hard man being on the road. Yeah, people make fun
of my long hair. You don't understand the guys say,
is that a hear a hymn the other day? Do
(05:16):
you know the song I'm talking about? Age?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I was about to say, the echoes of the amplifier
ringing in my head?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, smoke. The day's last cigarette, wondering what
she say? Yeah, yeah, as covered amazingly by the one
and only Metallica, and then it's a jam that Metallica
then covered.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah dude, Oh, I actually heard it for the first
time as a Metallica song, so I will never get
that version out of my head.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It feels like they're reaching so hard to like try
and find some like hardships that they're enduring as internationally.
During rock stars, you're just like, are like and then
all these like beautiful women are fighting over you. It's
very chaotic, you know, people try and give you their drugs.
(06:05):
I watched their documentary Some Kind of Monster on.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
A yearly basis. That's probably my favorite music documentary of
all time.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You think James Headfield is like, man, we need a
song about fucking hard it is to be Metallica.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Man, if you don't fucking know and you don't know,
man can't move to vail.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They're like, they're like, fuck it, man, did another artist
write about how hard it is being a rock star?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Right, we'll just cover that. I espresso just being like Kauz,
I'm a singer, Yeah exactly. I'm working late because I'm
a singer. Okay, what else hard?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, you just want to just want to hunt some
elk and drive your whatever the rocket the powered card
thing that is that he drives. I know way too
much about that band, So we could just do a podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Who had a rocket powered car? James Hetfield.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
It's in some kind of monster He gets pulled over
by a cop and then the cop recognizes him and
it's a whole thing, and he like has this moment
where he's like, what do I expect?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Like?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I ride this thing? And because I don't want to
be noticed. It's like.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's kind of amazing. It's like I think I'm a narcissist.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
And then they cut to Lars just like on the
couch is talking about his paintings.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, Miles, that's third voice. One of our feudis an actor,
voiceover artist, musician who stars in the certified fresh Hulu
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We're a Metacritic podcast here. You've seen him as Ausie
and the film Aftermath on Netflix. He's been nominated for
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renowned rock guitarist. You know his face from Mortal Kombat.
Please welcome back to the show. Shot Ja Hon Kong.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Coming to you live from the shores of Boston, Massachusetts.
A right as planes fly overhead. Yeah, shout out logan. Yeah,
I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Here it is there is there Isn't there like a
pyramid shaped hotel in Boston somewhere like on the heart
Is there.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
A peer There's a like a wacky formerly known as
when Encore casino. There's a very orientalist Dodge Mahall type
situation casino. Oh, I don't know that there's a pyramid
shaped hotel. There's a there's an iconic harbor hotel in Boston.
I think I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, it's Oh it's the Regency Boston, and.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
It's got that big like the one that's on the
the one that's on Logan. It's on the water yeah,
Logan Campus. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, maybe any Boston people are going to probably be
thinking that I don't know the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
I just remember when I was when I'm talking about
the one with a big arch in it and then
like a little Taj Mahall type thing on the like
a little bit that's that's that's the casino.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
That's the Encore casino that I was talking about. There
is also a hotel.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I'm talking about this thing.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh yeah, of course it's on the fucking child dude.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, exactly, of course, because that's like the.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Only situation you should have You should have said the
double step laddery pyramid.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, sorry, I should have said a Mesopotamian rectangular structure.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right, Yeah, that that I would have read that ignorance.
And my father went to m I T right down
the road from that. So I'm an embarrassedment not only
to my city, but my family to super Flex. My
dad worked for Kodak.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah that's right. Ever heard of it anymore? Because they
invented the digital camera and then kind of fund themselves.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They kind of yea, they sort of skyped themselves out
of the game.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah yeah, yeah, maybe he lost his pension. Moving on.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Oh no, have you been? It sounds sounds like busy, Ben,
I've been.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Okay, man, I've been. Uh, you know, I'm sure we'll
get into how we're all really doing. But yeah, Fortunately,
the last few years from a career standpoint, have been
a dream come true in many ways. I'm doing a
lot of things I always wanted to do. I'm very
much still a struggling artist, and I'm yeah, I'm alive man.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, hey, there it is. That's what we need. Some
people don't understand how hard it is to be a
struggling are they really out here on?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
They should really refer to this song Turn the Page
by Bob Seeker slash Metallica to really understand.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
You're like in first class and everyone's looking at you
because they're like, I know, I recognize them from somewhere,
and you're like, yeah, but do they like recognize me, like,
do they actually first see me? I mean scrounging for
peanuts in first class?
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Yees?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah that's what I meant. Yeah, I'm still chewing
the ice. I've never been first I have been one
in the once in my entire life. My family got
upgraded to business class on the trip to Pakistan back
when what a British Airways still flew to Pakistan.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But I have never never flown first class ever. I'm
not saying I won't, so, I mean, if anybody wants
to hook that up like I'm down, I mean, but
surely you're hiring them from succession man. Yeah, got he's
got its first file. First, it wasn't that I lied
and said I was a New York local and you know,
packed for days of a day of work and realized
that I was going to be there for a week,
and then basically had one pair of socks and had
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to like it was yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Did you have to? Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Were they only casting like New York locals for that?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And You're like, yeah, it was my first job that
my manage I had booked. I'd done these this film
Aftermath in twenty twenty one. Uh, and then I did
this like Lifetime Murder Mystery. Those are my two things
where I actually got lines and stuff. And then after that,
my local Boston agent we were like, yeah, maybe we
should try to get a manager. I was like, so
how do I do that? Do I just like ask
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other actors like, hey, can I have your manager? It
didn't really work.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
So they're like, well, if you don't look like me, Yeah,
that's what happens when you ask other people like, hey,
how's your manager, and like, well, they're kind of you know,
we would kind of be going out for the same stuff,
so maybe fuck off.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
You know, we already got a couple of Pakistanis, so
the quota has been filled, maybe we could move, but yeah,
I started. I was then connected to my awesome manager,
Melissa Young, and you know, the first job we booked
was this character lean on Succession, supposed to be party
guest number four. You never know what these coasts and
it's my first ever TV booking. You never know what
these co star roles. I literally got the email. I
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just jumped in my car and started driving. I was like, yeah,
it's like one line, it'll be like a day team.
I got there and she was like no, No. On the
way she's like, yeah, it's a five day booking. I
was like, oh okay.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And then in the email somewhere it was something about
a green room and I was like, yeah, that means
like we're all the background actors sit together and you know,
like we just chill. And I got there first day
and it was like no, no, you have your own
hotel room with the cast is on the same floor
as you and I then from there just my mind
has continued to be blown. Everybody was super cool, but
I literally, dude, I packed for two days. I had
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two pairs of boxers, two pairs of socks. I didn't
have enough clothes, so I like wore the bathrobe like
in the room. I like, people like, why don't we
just even go to Target and like buy other stuff.
I was like, you don't understand, like I was trying
to save money, dude, Yeah, I so it was. It
was a wild oh and I put one of the
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dirty socks. I'm not told the story publicly, so here
we go. I put one of my dirty socks, like
to air it out, like I opened the window in
the room everything, and then the sock fell like it was.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
A while still there. It's probably the still always air.
What do you mean I always leave my shoes outside too, Yeah,
because I.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Just do it. I got a foot sweat thing. It's like, yeah,
said thank you jack.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Swat have clear like you know, I have very formative
memories from you know, basketball camp when I was ten
eleven and just everybody on the entire dorm floor that
I was staying with being like what the fuck is
that smell? And then like just dirty figure out it
was me and you.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Just trigged to memory someone before I dropped out of
calls the first time. I'm a trifecta of a dropout.
A girl I think her name was Anya. She once
entered me in my poor roommate.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Darren's room, was like, Hey, your guy's room always smells
like dirty socks?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
What's up with that?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Is that? What is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Are you an arm and hammer foot powder user?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, travel size you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, of course, no way, guys are both the
same person.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Like, yeah, you know either the army. Yeah, it's a
very specific thing. Yeah, I know, overpacked socks. So like
as you were talking about like having that experience, I
was like sweating panic. Who's the wrapper from Ribs?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Who?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Was like, you know what, I got famous so that
I could wear a new pair of socks every day?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh that?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Do you remember this episode? No?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, I mean it feels like a very Cribs thing. Yeah,
I mean Redman is the most memorable one, but I
don't know, but he would.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, he's just got frozen pizzas and stuff, and he's
like playing against sixty four on the couch. Sleep all right,
cha Jaham. We're gonna get to know you a little
bit better in a moment. First, a couple of the
stories we're talking about. We're gonna I'm hearing more and
more about this AI stuff. Yeah, yeah, and we're gonna
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look at yeah good, really good. It seems like everybody's
doing positive.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Seems like you better step your game up. Gray, that's
that we talk about this. You can't even apply some pressure.
It's it just it feels like everybody is going to
our at least bad managers are going to overextend on
this and it's break whatever product they sell to people.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But now we have but now we have proof. Yeah,
now we have proof, and we have an example of
like how they're going to back out of it and
they hate a surprise surprise. It's bad for us, bad
for all people. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk
about the Democratic Party. We'll talk about some facial recognition
cameras technology being used in New Orleans, just a fucking
(16:28):
dragnet of like terminator heads up displays in New Orleans.
Some staffing cuts that are actually killing people, some of
those Trump staffing cuts that are killing people via a tornado,
the most dramatic way someone can be killed, I feel like.
And maybe we'll talk about that new Jurassic World trailer
(16:50):
and Sesame Street all that anymore, probably we're not getting
all that with you. But before we get to that,
shah Jahan, we do like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history that's revealing about who
you are?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
The last thing that I in my search history was
the benefits of freezing one's credit. I recently got kicked
off of my student loan repayment program, and yeah, I
just went down this rabbit hole of what the fuck
am I going to do? So yeah, I mean I
would there's many more interesting things about me.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, but that's what I've just one of my
top fears right now. God, wait, so how did you
get kicked off? The dude? It was the worst possible
sequence of events. So this year, because these assholes are
trying to get rid of all these income based repayment programs.
Right before they announced this, it turned out last year
was the first year that my wife and I filed
our taxes together, and I screwed myself by doing that
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because I made whatever a fraction, oh they consider is
too much to let you know. So then I basically
got kicked off. And that was right at the time
where they froze the whole system, so I couldn't get
back on to like try to amend did and stuff,
and so we're basically just I went into forbearans like
millions of other you know, borers, and we're just kind
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of waiting to see what happens next year. But it's
it's not looking good.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
You know. I was looking I mean, I was, as
I said, I'm an artist. I was making the minimum payment,
so I was I hadn't missed a payment in ten
twelve years. If I if the IDR program still exists
next year, technically I could go back on it, I think,
and they wouldn't. I could pick up where I left off.
But you know, it's all up in the air, like right, really,
who knows, Yeah, it's gonna happen like this somehow.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
The Trumpian solution is like some goon friend of his
with like a debt consolidation companies, You want me.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
To handle all these and he's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I get private. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
So that's why that was in my my search history.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Then went to freezing credit and unfreezing credit. Yeah, I
just was going down down the path of doom.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
And if it does fuck my credit up, how do
I freeze my credit?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Yeah, exactly. I see that. I see that path. It's
it's a cool content and cloning myself.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
To steal my own identity and interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Now you're thinking outside Trump America, baby, yeah exactly. Yeah.
It's like you made payments on time for twelve years
and they're like, well, that's not how you get ahead
in this country. You've got to come up with some
weird it doesn't mean yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
To force them toursue you and then use your dad's
lawyer to just string them along for years till they
give up.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That's real. That's how you do it.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
What's something you think is underrated? Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Boy, Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Bob Dylan's underrated?
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Okay, yeah, yeah, it's just a I don't know. I
don't know what it is about about mister Dylan.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
It doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Overrated. You're giving Dylan over sorry, underrated? Oh crap, crap, crap,
just that the feeling of that was so nice.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I I don't know what it is about him.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I just mister underrated, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Oh no, no, oh, sorry, over I got ship. I
don't know what it is about this asshole that I hate. Wait,
so okay, then let's do with Dylan. Dylan's overrated.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Dylan is overrated?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I feel like so. I'm
obviously a musician too. I've longest people maybe possibly maybe
possibly know me. I started this band twenty years ago
called The Kamina as an American Muslim punk rock band.
Now I play in this Providence garage act called Rubbie Chby.
I tour with a New York based artist, Sonny Singh.
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I just I basically just invite myself into other people's
bands now, and you know, if they're like, I got
to you know, so.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I just feel like Bob Dylan, You're supposed to like him,
and I feel like I should. There's one song that
I'm that I'm down with, Desolation Row, but mostly me
and my wife just imitate his voice as if he
was singing other songs like around the House.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
By the Way, Desolately. I am a bit of a
I do like Dylan, and the Desolation Row is the
most like indulgent Dylan song where he just like goes
on and on and on like with the most random
literary illusions.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
One of my many jobs as I was dropping in
and out of college, was. I was a security guard
as my dad was working at Kodak in the building
that he was working in. I got I mentioned, I
got sober. I got fired from that job for stealing alcohol.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Hell yeah at the building. I'm not the Koda. It
was like Lowell.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It was one of these like.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Corporate Yeah you know that Kodak alcohol. You know that
Kodak High Life. Yeah, yeah, pay of film.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think those are just film developing chemicals. One of
the things you had to do there was a couple
of campuses. As a security guard.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
You have to like do tours of the campus and
like you have these little things a little like media
and you have to just kind of like tap the
like wand to like let your superiors know that you've
actually done your job. Uh. And one of the places
I had to work was in this town called Endover,
and in that and the titles like two thousand and over,
two thousand and four or five, maybe there was like
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a computer with like MP three's that you could just
just get high and like listen to this music and
then occasionally do my job. But one of those songs
was Desolation Row and I remember because it was like
eight or nine minutes long, and for some reason, I
just my life was also kind of desolate, to be
honest at the time, so I was also trying to
maybe be like, yeah, things are tough, you know, right,
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comfortable middle class suburban life. I'm still living with my
parents and yeah, yeah, but I understand you, Bob Dylan,
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, it's a it's a long one, and like it
just keeps being like new, like famous iconic fictional characters
keep showing up, and he's like, and incomes Romeo and
then here comes Cinderella. Wait, that's the fucking song. It's
like it's long, and the Hunchback and the Tredame it
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shows up in the pipe.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
But I'll give him that one. Nice, you get one, Dylan, Yeah,
you get one. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I'm assuming the esteemed, you know, music critic that I
am very well respected across you know, the world.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I also invite myself into a lot of people's bands,
and nobody has welcomed me in because I don't play
an instrument. So I would just say that it's it
sounds like, uh, you're a pretty good musician and well Jack.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Based on your your foot care alone, like I think
i'd take you on tour. Yeah, I could do the pedals.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I feel like people who are good musicians generally are
like this guy, Like I remember hearing the Blues Travelers
guy who's like, I guess one of the great harmonica players. Yeah,
John Popper was like yeah, but like the worst fucking
the worst harmonica player in the world. I feel like
he's like kind of an affront to like musicians in
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many ways. Yeah, there's like a big N plus one
essay about how Bob Dylan sucks shit like that, and
they like compared him to Radiohead, and they're like Radiohead
uses sounds to make meaning like a musician would, whereas
Bob Dylan is just like writing words that sounds smart.
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It was a pretty definitive takedown, but I still I
still fucks with him, but he I feel like he
got away with a whole hell of a lot. You
can like go back and read reviews of his albums
from the seventies and man, they're just like doing there
sweating to like make his shit sound like it's the
neck that like, and this song clearly about Vietnam and
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it's making interesting points, and it's like he's like just
mad at an ex girlfriend and calling her an idiot
over and over again.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
But what's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Let me actually answer it correctly this time. I'm gonna
go with the band Corn. Okay, I think the band
Corn is underrated. I got into them a little bit
late in life. And what I say late in life,
I literally mean a couple of years ago, like wow,
in high school, like it was like, yeah, you can't
listen to that shit. But I think their twenty twenty
two record is a masterpiece. I will say that ply wow.
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Wait their album from three, I haven't day Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I'm not saying everything they've done is great. I'm not
saying they're great people. Let me emphasize, I'm not saying
they're great people. You don't like Christian fundamentalism.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Their music is underrated, right, I've never had a pleasure
or misfortunate just.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
A guitarist that way Christian?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Right, it was it. Jonathan also Davis also like, oh
I don't I'm not sure I should be watching Head
with some headwar fans might know is a Head or
Head or Monkey?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
They're the two guitar.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, there's Head and there's Monkey.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I was watching this super guitar NERD show called a
Mere Guitar rig Rundown with they have all them and
then they have field Y the bassist, and I think
that and the Deft Tones are probably my two favorite
rig Rundown episodes because field is like yeah, so like
or no, maybe it was head. He was like so,
like I'm not good but like people, but it's like cool,
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it's fine. And then with Deftones Steph Carpenter, Like the
host of the show is this guy John Bolinger. He's
adorable and he's like, hey, man, like, just tell me
about all your stuff. And he's like, yo, listen, and
he's like, you know, why do you have all these
what is your guitar? Like, he's like, listen, I just
got Louis Vuitton on my guitar because I think it
looks like like like that's basically why.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I wish I could give you an answer that was
deeper than a sixth grader.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
We'll tell you. Man is so disappointed because he's used
to people being like yeah, like well.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Like French colonial concept of luxury around in a French
colonial context and you're like, oh wow.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Interesting corn. Yeah, they're definitely like I dismissed them out
of hand for for no good reason. I'm sure in
my when they were first out and then but then
like I've heard I think I've heard like isolated vocals
of like their singer doing like his like weird like
(27:19):
sanding thing. Damn, this guy is like doing like something
is coming through him from another world. You know, It's
like there is there is a gift there that is
like kind of impressive and kind of remarkable.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, I just I would. I think I was only
like in a vacuum. It was just the follow the
Leader era when you know, like at the height of
their powers. That at the time, I was like, bro,
Corn is for like the white kids whose parents got
divorced in first grade, and like it wasn't quite connected
with me. And then my parents got divorced, and then
I was like, you were like you know, and I.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Was like, yeah, aren't really notes, man, They're just so yeah,
oh wow, God hates me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, let's fucking go. Their unplugged album is pretty wild.
It has a they didn't unplugged. They didn't Oh my god,
it's ridiculous. From Amy whatever name is, from Evan Essence, it's.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Pretty Oh my goodness, I didn't even mention that thank you, Miles.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I was too busy listening to On Eagle's Wings and
following the leader thank you. Yeah, as as they instructed
in the title of their album, thank You, thank You,
light years ahead of their time, that's right, let's take
a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back.
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We're back, and man, so what do you think of
this AI stuff? I do, Like, I had conversations with
people that's past the past couple of weeks, just like
people who like work for like big corporations, and I'm
just like, so, what do you think of this like
AI stuff? And they're all, I don't know, a little mystified,
(29:13):
but they're like, yeah, it's definitely like a tool that
we're all going to have to learn how to use,
and it might replace all of our jobs in the
next like six months.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I feel like here in Boston, right outside of before
you get onto, uh the entrance ramp to Logan Airport,
there's this giant billboard which says stop hiring humans. It's
this company.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I forget that, I forget the company I've seen before weeks. Dude, Yeah, yeah,
it's I think we should be setting fire to those signs.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Basically that sounds like an attack on me. The work sucks,
So that's the other thing to take where it sucks
and people hate it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So how do how do how do I benefit from
all the productivity from the machines? There is that in
your plan or no going up to the C suite?
But yeah, I have the same thing too, where like
people ask them like, hey man, you talk about then,
like what do you think AI? And they do it
in a way that's like they don't know where you're at,
and they don't even know where they're at on AI, Yeah,
(30:12):
and just basically going like I don't know. It's like exactly, dude,
they're making me use it at work and I don't
fucking like it does ship, But I don't know what anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
So the one thing I've heard that is that seems
good to me, like it seems like a good tool
is somebody who's like we did like a series of
interviews with like clients, and they I transcribed it and
then like synthesized it and like put it all in
a database that we could like I don't know, like
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learn from and like access much easier than before. Yeah,
sounds like I mean a tool, a tool that you Yeah, exactly,
it sounds like a tool. It's like, yeah that that okay,
that's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's like the direction that you know, one positive about
it is like war, right, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, and it's also gonna make our bombs really smart. Yeah,
I know, we all thought they were smart before, but
now it's gonna be go directly up the enemy's asshole?
Is how Yeah, precise, it's going to be. No, it's
it just yeah, it's a tool. That's like I don't know,
if somebody told me that a computer program could do that,
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I'd be like, oh, that's a cool tool. That is
about what I would expect technology to be doing. Yeah.
But like all of the over promising of AI is
like invading the C suite, And now they're like, so
we don't need people anymore, right, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And now we're at a point where finally, the reason
we're talking about this is because now we're getting more
and more groans from the companies that said, yeah, fuck people, man,
we're all this automation.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Shit sounds fucking dope.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
That company Klarna, the buy now, pay later service, they
were huge on replacing human beings with AI so much
so they completely stopped hiring humans too. You seeing that billboard, Yeah,
the one No, I don't know, No, I mean this
is the buy now, pay later service, So maybe maybe
this CEO did see it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
But then this is from Vice. Quote.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
By twenty twenty four, it had partnered with Open AI,
slashed customer service and marketing departments, and publicly declared that
quote AI can already do all of the jobs that
we as humans do, according to their CEO, And then
they're like, all right after, like, we saved ten million
dollars because AI can now handle things like making images,
translation data analysis, and customer service. But yeah, we like
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customer service, like that thing where being a human and
having like empathy like helps that experience.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, that's the same customer service we're talking about here,
So real quick on those first few things, making images, translation,
data analysis, who's telling the AI what images to make
and like what data to analyze and then trying to
get me to a gotcha thing?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Definitely all benevolent actors. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I know you want me to say human beings, Jack,
but actually they installed AI overseer as they over.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
That grim Off Tarkin overseer AI.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's a really problematic name, but hey, they keep the
other ais in check. Well, now the CEO is realizing
people fucking wow hate dealing with automated customer service and
that's like one of like I feel like we need
to add like a new truth. It's like death taxes
and we hate fucking automated customer service prompts, like every
time you talk to a human human representative, that's like ALLSOM,
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that's every call with an automated customer service agent.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So the CEO goes to my mind again a grocer
at the grocery store. Dude, I'm like, I'll I will
have every like I'll be psyched to like scan the
ship myself, but inevitably I'm gonna suck it up and
then I'll be I'll be the person with the blinking
you know. Oh yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's so frustrating when you are trying to buy like
it and then you fuck it up.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I did that with a box of diapers the other day,
and well you scan the wrong a barcode and I go,
what the fuck do you barcodes? Yeah, I'm like, I
bricked the system by scanning it like it's this one.
I'm like, how the fuck should I know that this
is the biggest barcode on the fucking box and you're
telling me this one is the one that shuts down
your fucking checkout system.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Anyway, You're going to hear about this in your employee
review at Rapp's this coming quarter end of quarter. I know,
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So now the CEO has had to basically admit that
this was a huge l and they have to hire
human beings again. Quote this is from their CEO.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
From a brand perspective, a company perspective.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I just think it's so critical that you are clear
to your customer that there will always be a human
if you want. Uh. Cost unfortunately, seems to have been
a two predominant evaluation factor, and what you end up
having is lower quality.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
The option thing is interesting to me. So this is
something I was specifically thinking about this week because so
one of the things that I do, which I don't
know how long is going to be a career, is
narrate audiobooks, And just last week Audible, for example, announced
that they're going to have an AI option for publishers
as well as you know, you can hire me like
another charactor. Yeah, and obviously like, dude, look, I understand
(35:22):
if like some an indie author you know, doesn't have
the money to like fork over, to like hire me
or hire a whole studio to do shit. And I
definitely lost one of my largest voiceover clients, who shall
remain nameless this year. I'm pretty sure because of AI.
I'd been doing stuff for them for a couple of
years and then I no one even reached out to me,
(35:43):
and then they stopped responding to my emails, and then
I know that the stuff is still being made. So
and even with my Mortal Kombat stuff, like even though
that all happened, I would say three four years ago,
a couple of years before. This discussion was maybe more
in the in the public consciousness, you know, before the
strike and stuff. So yeah, man, I don't know. I
don't know where all the shit's going.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, it's it's hard to know.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And like with this, right, they're always like, no, I
don't replace things like customer service. Then they try it
and they're like, a shit, that was bad our customers
fucking hate us. It's actually affecting our business negatively.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
And if I want to hear the like positive use
like zeitgang. Anybody listening, like just hit me with like
the the examples where like somebody's given something to AI
and it's like created something that was like good other
than I mean, we've talked about like some scientific breakthroughs
like the you know, decoding the shape of proteins of proteins,
(36:37):
like that stuff is great, But I'm talking more about
the stuff that they we keep hearing them try to
do where it like replaces a whole workforce and that
there's not like a noticeable drop in quality. It just
feels like it never happens.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I know people who have to use it at work
and they say, like the latest chat GPT is like
a fucking it's like worse and they hate it, and yeah,
yeah they had to they had to be like take
it back and be like, oh, oh yeah, I think
it all depends on what you do, because like I think,
I always bring it up, like people who I know
in grant writing, they're like, I fucking thank God for
this because like I hate grant writing and and just
(37:14):
get into a bulk of already the work I have
to do as a great like in char of what
I do at a nonprofit, but like it has now
freed me up.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
To do other things anyway. As a tool.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm saying. It's a tool, and
I think that's where you see the use cases. You're like,
as a tool, not as a replacement for a human being.
So now Klarna is fucking rehiring human beings, but not
as employees like they once had. They are now hiring
people as remote gig workers, so they're not like so
that way they can handle customer service calls from wherever
(37:44):
they're at. And also they don't get any benefits or
the job stability of having like full time employment because
they're like, you know, you guys are gig workers, and
now we found a thing that kind of you know,
threads the needle. So this seems to be like a
trend across business. Now people get hype for AI and
then immediately regret it because it's not actually intelligent at all,
and they're like, this thing's a fucking teddy ruckspin that
(38:05):
does memes essentially, and I can't do anything for my business.
This is another thing from a Carnegie Mellon study found
over half of UK business leaders who rush to replace
human jobs with AI say they now regret it.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
They said.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
They found that the study found that even the best
AI workers could only complete about a quarter of basic tasks.
So again I don't like it. It's really in these
narrow fields where unfortunately, like voiceover and things like that,
they found a way to just like plug shit in
because there's now you there are so many like zombie
YouTube channels that they're just getting. Yeah, they just put
(38:41):
together bodycam footage from police and they'd be like on
and it's just like on October fourteenth, twenty twenty four,
the park Linds and just shows you bodycam footage a
little bit of commentary. It's the most obvious AI voice shit,
And I don't know like it. People are kind of
like I don't know, I yes, this is fine.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
The ones I keep seeing are like the like cooking,
this is whatever, it's my algorithm or something, but like cooking,
like this is the greatest recipe ever. Just take three eggs,
a piece of broccoli and some rappercorn, you know, like
that kind of show.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
That you have three egg broccoli peppercorn. Oh thanks, a
wonderful dish.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
But yeah, I mean I think that's the thing that's
freaky now about AI with this sort of Klarna example,
and other companies that are doing the thing where like
they fire their actual employees, take a swing on AI,
and then they're like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
It, We'll bring people back as gig workers.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
And now we're actually saving money on benefits because we're
not having to provide any for these people.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
And I'm like, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
That's maybe that's at the moment, that seems like the
biggest threat too in a lot of in a more
pronounced way, is full time employment.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Anything that happens at this stage, at this late stage capitalism.
Under this late stage capitalism, like structure, anything that happens,
whether it be pandemic, whether it be war, whether it
be you know, change who whatever the changes and presidency,
it's always an excuse to fuck people, like fuck you know,
(40:09):
fuck over employees and funnel money upward. So like you know,
line go up and stock prices go up, they will
use that money to do stock buybacks. Line go down,
They fire employees and like nobody in the c suite
gets touched AI. You know, they overstretch on AI, they
(40:31):
overestimate what it's able to do. They fire all the employees,
and then they're like, oops, are bad they hire them
back at like worse. It's just it's going it's an
inevitability because workers are just completely unprotected under this system, right,
and it's just going to keep happening until there's like
massive structural change that doesn't even seem like it's in
(40:52):
the conversation to happen right now unfortunately. So, yeah, it
feels like AI and everything is just going to be
an excuse to continue to make life worse in America
for the vast, vast majority of people.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
It's also wild too, because I remember when they were
first talking about They're like, man, like the possibilities with automation.
Now we've maybe if we need to start talking about
a universal basic income from the gains that will get
from A do that shit.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Nobody's saying shit about that anymore.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It's like, I don't know, we dooped enough people on
Wall Street now that like there's too much momentum going
to fucking stop this.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
They'll probably bring it back like as the next stage
of this, and it'll be like way too low. And
also the AI will still suck shit at its job,
and so the like things will be getting done worse
by AI, and people will be like living on a
lower or.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
The dystopian version is like, come work at a company
town to be like the slight human handler for an AI.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But you're only going to work like an hour a day.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Yeah, enjoying your bug paste cubes exactly. Yeah, hey, only
three bug paste cubes, you dick. That's it's not our fault.
This guy's getting greedy with the bug paste jubes.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Jesus cracty. All right, should we do it. Let's just
knock another dystopian story out here real quick, just.
Speaker 7 (42:11):
To let's go with the staff cuts at the federal
level that are leaving people open to you know, deadlier
weather events that there was.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
This is wild.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
I actually hadn't heard about this.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, there were. There were were tornadoes in eastern Kentucky
that killed twenty three people at least. The governor said
that the death toll is expected to rise. The deadliest
tornado of twenty twenty four, you know, seven people were
killed in Texas. This was twenty three.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
People think it's now twenty seven between Missouri and Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, yeah, like that's the like seven was the most
that died total in twenty twenty four in any individual state.
They're twenty three in Kentucky in like one event, And
so obviously we asked the question, how are tornadoes getting deadlier? Sure,
it can't be climate change because we don't believe in
that here in Kentucky in the South. In unrelated news,
(43:06):
the portion of the state of Kentucky where the deaths
occurred was served by a forecast office that, following all
the federal cuts from DOGE at the beginning of the
Trump administration, no longer has overnight staff. Yeah, and these
tornadoes happen tonight. That's like, and it's not just there.
Alaska has the same thing where there's no overnight coverage.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Parts of California, has affected Texas, Louisiana, Like you said, Kentucky,
it's all like many places are now I don't know
the work they.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Just can't afford. Yeah, it's just like a very straightforward, Oh,
this thing they're doing is really bad and we're going
to see the consequences soon. We're seeing the consequences, and
people are just kind of like, I don't know, gets
buried with a bunch of other news. But I am
hoping that tornadoes do the right thing and start keeping
to bankers hours going forward, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
I will say watching the original twister followed by the
most recent one is a good idea if anybody's wondering.
Yeah yeah, and right after the other, yeah, bang bang
time absolutely a twister bang bang yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
If you read Project twenty twenty five, because like that's
all part of like just they're like, fuck the Weather Service.
This is in the part about the Weather Service quote.
This industry's mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed
around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable. And
they're like, and therefore, fucking Okay, we're rich. We don't
(44:30):
live in you know, trailer parks, so we're not gonna
get pulled away by it.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Oh I'm sorry. Was there?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
What was the last time a tornado hit Manhattan?
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I think will be a chuckle? Yeah right, yeah, seems bad.
Seems bad. Let's take a quick break and we'll be
back to talk about Jurassic Park or some some other shit.
(45:02):
And we're back. We're back. And did you guys see
the new Jurassic World rebirth trailer?
Speaker 3 (45:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I actually I saw that.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
It came out like two days ago, and I stopped
myself because I'm kind of excited.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
That I don't want to see too.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
I didn't watch the trailer yet.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I'm a little bit excited about it too because the
so the one thing that's giving me hope is that
Gareth Edwards is directing it. He's a guy who made
like Rogue one and the Creator and like started off
with an indie movie that like was somehow like a
low budget indie movie that also was about giant monsters.
(45:40):
And he also made that Godzilla movie that was like
kind of divisive but a massive hit. But like he's
always with puff Daddy and Jimmy Page. That one, not
that one. No no, no, no no. That one's like
a universal disaster. Everybody agreed that one sucks shit that
I think that was.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
That was the Ken Wattanabe one when he when he
first joined That one that's from him.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
That was rolling Emeric.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I think, hey, man, that soundtrack was hot. I'm just
saying never I remember the best raid one of the
best rage songs, No Shelter, Yeah, man, that was so
much good stuff. I had that soundtrack, you remember why
Deeper Underground. That was the first time I heard that song.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I remember I buying that soundtrack and my dad was like,
why are you listening?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Nick?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
What is this remix of Kashmir?
Speaker 2 (46:26):
And I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I'm like, this has come with me? Puff Daddy him,
no surprise, come with me and You're like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (46:36):
What is? And then the SNL performance were Jimmy Page
and Puff Daddy.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Shore and then I remember my dad was like, you'd
really fuck with led Zeppelin if you think this is good?
And I'm like all right, and then that's when he
I remember he talked to me about John Bonham for
fifteen minutes and I I got so bored.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I remember, like, dude, I got a fucking oh wow,
I get it. Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
He somehow plays just behind the beat for this interesting
pocket feel.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I don't give a fuck, right, but the only used
one mic his son tried to do. He didn't quite
have the same chops as Bonzo.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I'm like, okay, fuck, dude, can we go to Taco
Bell to get this Gordiina. I'm trying to get the
Z piece to spell out Godzilla to win this family
a fucking billion dollars.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
I feel like that was the least that Diddy like
did not add a lot to that song. I'm going
to say and I know it's controversial to speak ill
of Diddy right now. No, literally, like metrically speaking, I
don't think he added much. Yeah, No, he would just
like kind of shouted over it. He's like, what if
Kashmir was this other song I yelled on top of Yeah?
(47:42):
What if I yelled on top of cash? Would that
be cool? But anyways, this director has always seemed faded.
To make a Jurassic Park movie. They are dropping these
things fast and furious. They're just you know, they they
ended the last trilogy and and this must have already
been in production. They were like the final Jurassic One.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I just saw the original. I have never seen you
after that. The original Jurassic Park is a perfect film.
It's very good, still holds up.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Every time they re release it, I go see it
because I'm permanently stuck at like nine years old when
it from me when it came out, and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Oh, totally.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
That's also why, for whatever reason, I think, you know,
I've had a tough year. I think I need this
to be my regression, to regress in the purest fucking way.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Don't fuck this up for me, Gareth. They haven't so
here's the thing that they haven't tried doing since the
first Jurassic Park is they haven't tried making a good one. Yeah,
I mean I guess they tried. Maybe day I could
help them with that. Thank you, this is you're a
couple of steps ahead of me. But I caught that lot.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Steven Spielberg made the second one, and it was like
it had some amazing sequences, but overall it was pretty bad.
So that not one of Steven Spielberg's best movies. And
they I feel like Jurassic World, the reboot, like after
the first three that were like based around the original movie,
(49:15):
the reboot Jurassic World, like I kind of think of
that as the point at which we were fucked as
like film goers, because it is it's the perfect encapsulation
of this new model where instead of like people who
love movies being the head of like development in studios,
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they had marketing teams as the head of studios, and
like they were just like, well, we got to like
make a Jurassic Park movie where like the park's actually open, right,
and it's like, yeah, that's a that is an easy
movie to make, Like great trailers for and like ads
around and like the premise is just like fucking surefire,
(50:00):
and then you know the notes like apparently it was
just an impossible movie to make and it was kind
of a mess. It was very like me. So there
there is a drastic park ride that is based around
rafts that is like kind of the main one I
think at Universal and that one is it. Like people
(50:20):
were always like it's kind of weird because the book
that the original movie is based on like the centerpiece,
like the most exciting sequence and kind of the most
like cinematic. The first one, like after reading the book
that as a like twelve year old, I was like, well,
that's gonna be an awesome movie. Scene is a raft chase,
and Spielberg just didn't end up putting it in because
(50:42):
they had plenty without it. I guess that they have
put in this movie. This movie is written by the
writer of the original Drass Park screenplay, and it like
the trailer is like heavily featuring this raft chase where
like a t rex is like chasing them down a river.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
I remember they they showed a section of it in
the first one.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
I was like, whoa, Yeah, they really kind of let
you know that this is gonna they really let it
breathe in this one.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
There's something terrifying though about like a t Rex being
slowed by water and you're in a boat. Like that's
even more psychologically fucked up. We're like, yeah, fuck, I
look the water resistance slow. Yeah, because at least they
were in the jeep when they were running from the
t rex in the first one.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Yeah, have you ever been like trying to run in
water as fast for a rex? Ye? Rex? Yea in there. Yeah,
but yeah, Spielberg apparently storyboarded the sequence for the original movie.
They just never shot it. I think it was also
like crazy expensive when you.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
Look at between it was probably between that and the
part where the dinosaurs eat the dude in the in
the bathroom stall.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, the lawyer they chose wisely get the lobviously. Yeah,
when you look at the making of that original movie,
it's like there's a lot of it's kind of a
mirror because like so little of it is actually CGI,
Like most of it's just puppets and shit like that,
and then they just like mixed in moments of CGI,
which is why so much CGI since then has been
(52:12):
so fucked because everyone was like, well, they did Jurassic
Park with CGI some some Yeah, they did some. CGI
was like seventy percent amazing, like the best in class
practical effects we'd seen on film up to that point,
plus like some shading from the CGI. Yeah, It's like
it's still fucking stan Winston's genius that made that film possible.
(52:36):
It's like his creatures, the Stan Winston creatures are like
the fucking real engine of that movie visually. Yeah. But
our writer JM McNab was, he's he's been on this
for a while like that first his theory is that
Steven Spielberg even like made Jurassic Park in the first
place because he gets a cut of Universal Studios money,
(52:59):
And he was like, this is going to be a
sick ride. People are going to go to this. This
is gonna be like the best ride that I've ever made.
And he also points out like the ride is based
on that scene in the movie. So there there's always
a chance that Spielberg is like kind of pulling the
strings here to be like, what if we did we
finally made the river Reft ride.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, Well, because then I guess his first bite of
the apple would have been the et Adventure as a
universal ride. That's probably the thing that got him the
deal where they're like, hey, man, if you want to
like make some rides based on your movies, like we'll
give you a cut of the gate at the parks.
And the ET ride was fine. I mean, the ET
did say your name at the end. If it was
(53:44):
in a name of a database of traditional names, a
computer could say some traditionals, yeah, because I remember I
remember going with my Japanese cousin. Her name's Misakle, and
I'm Miles. In the beginning, they're like say your name
or you type it in, and it was like goodbye Miles,
and then they're like, it's gonna say your name Mesucle
and is like just it was just like shipry, like yeah, yeah,
(54:11):
but Martha.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
Or something goodbye honey, good good bye sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Here.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, but anyways, I don't know. The Rebirth subtitle is
actually giving Friday the thirteenth sequel where they like made
a Jason Dies movie and then we're already in production
on the like Jason Lives one like that. They're just
like cranked out, but a lot of the big action
(54:41):
moments actually are like have dinosaurs coming out of the water,
which kind of reminds me of Jaws. I feel like
it's it's giving Jaws. Johansen is like shooting one of
the dinosaurs with like a spear gun, just like in Jaws.
So I saw the trailer.
Speaker 1 (54:59):
There was like mega dinosaur that like flops out of
the water next.
Speaker 2 (55:03):
To that boat, and I was like, mustsaurus.
Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah wow, Oh well you said the dinosaur's name, like
you're hanging out with your kids a bunch who probably you're.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
Clearly book for this. There's a there's a cute children's
book called Papasaurus and one one of the dinosaur friends
that this this kid is playing this dinosaur kid is
playing hide and seek with his dad, and one of
the dinosaurs he visits task if they've seen his dad
is the mostasaurus, and that most of the saurus is
a little nicer than the one in this trailer. Oh wow,
(55:33):
thank you. That.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Okay, so it's not scary, it's not scary, Okay, watch it.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
I'll watch it.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
But yeah, and sorry, did you say muscle saurus mosa mosa?
Okay I'm thinking like proteinosaurus or something.
Speaker 1 (55:48):
No, yeah, yeah, ripped, that's the credat kreodactyl.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
I think there's some dactyls in this one. That is
my favorite thing about this. The later movies, I guess
they didn't really have the ability to dactyls.
Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, to get technically dinosaurs get sucked up in the
sky by a fucking pterodactyl's that's that's big money.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Bro sucked off into that.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
That's a fatality right there.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Exactly fatality. All right. So we do want to end
on some good news, and that is that, according to
a new study, the universe and everything in it will
decay into nothingness way sooner than anyone expected.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Oh thank god, my yeah, that's the that's the ideal thing.
We all go together and we don't have to feel bad,
you know. So what is it like in like three
weeks or what are you hey? I you know, yeah, yeah,
let it dude, let's ghibbly mean it up a job, yeah, before.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Bearing on, my love. It's all good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
So they used to think it was going to be
ten to the power of one eleven hundred years. They
used to think it was going to be ten to
the power of eleven hundred years. But now it's apparently
going to be ten to the power of seventy eight
years so one followed by seventy eight zeros, and that's
soon sooner.
Speaker 3 (57:12):
So this is the true.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah, by orders of magnitude, I guess seventy eight and
eleven hundred.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Ah well, all right, fine. I woke up a little
earlier this morning. Once I read this news, I was like,
I got some shit to do, man.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
I got to grind it out, dude, add those add
that extra Yeah, get my affairs in order. You start
talking like a grindset, dude. You're like, nah, dude, I
saw that headline about the universe. Any I woke up
an hour earlier. Okay, add that up over a week.
I've got a slight advantage over you. Add that up
over a half a year. I definitely have. I've been
doing about a three weeks more worth of work than
(57:49):
you have. Add that over ten years, man, I'm gone.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
You win. Gone. In the morning, I'm standing over you, shredded, shirtless,
and guess what I and I'm the doctor. I just
delivered you for birth. We started to clock over. That's
how ahead of my time. I am. Okay, counting my money,
counting my big coin.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
That's an actual thing I saw on a YouTube short
where guys like you got to think of this way. Man,
I'm waking up with those two extra hours, I don't sleep.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
You had that up.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
He like extrapolates that, He's like, within three years, I've
actually done seven lifetimes worth the work that you haven't,
and that you're like, no, you just sound sleep like
thirty five companies. Yeah, no, precisely. It's that kind of
like just very loose logic. We're like, yeah, thirty five companies.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
I've bought way more crypto. I've lost like three teeth
because I started doing ice baths.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Man, Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
But yeah, so this is because the universe will gradually
decay due to Hawking radiation first propose by Stephen Hawking,
which involves particles and quantum fluctuations and a bunch of stuff.
I totally understand about black holes that I'm not gonna
bore you guys with right now now, even though, like
I said, I understand it it's boring to you too.
(59:06):
I fine, like you, I can see how it would
be boring.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
I'm pretty interested, So like, what can he kind of
explain that?
Speaker 2 (59:13):
So that's all the time we have for today's kind
of a shorter episode. No you sure? Or like what?
It all comes back to black holes? How you understand?
And some where black holes event horizon the intense viational
field prevents annihilation. Obviously we all know that, right sure?
(59:37):
Do you ever be like.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
A physicist or a scientist to have like something named
after you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (59:43):
I mean, unless you want to be Do I get
into that, like, unless somebody wants to name it after me? Well,
you know when they're which I would recommend Brian Bullshit scale,
the Buster dude, he's the charge.
Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
The O'Brien scale, it's a three point six on the open.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Basically, So the event horizon process that I was just
describing that we all understand over long time scales, Howkings
theory suggests, and this is just how I talk. I'm
not quoting space dot Com here, over long time scales.
Hawkings theory suggests. This process causes the black hole to
slowly evaporate, eventually vanishing, and once that happens, all bets
(01:00:26):
are off. You know. Wow, oh wow, so easy to
get her.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I'm just like, I'm like, how but what would the
experience like? Do we all just like like go to
turn to dust like some fanos slap snap. But then
I'm reading about how the end of the universe would
cause a big crunch where everything goes and then that
would set off another big bang and we start the
universe all over again.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Kind of beautiful, kind of it'll like be a big crunch,
and then we'll realize we were just like some particle
in some other like vast thing. We're just like minuscule
dust on the app some some other thing to black,
fade to black. And then Bob Dylan song comes up,
so Mona. He was saying, and they and you said
(01:01:12):
that you and your wife sing other music and Bob
Dylan's boice. What's the what's the best match you found there?
Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Oh man, oh god, can I think of something else?
Speaker 8 (01:01:22):
Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I don't know, maybe like something like green Day, I said.
Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Going down Rodeale with my shotgun, with my shotgun.
Speaker 8 (01:01:37):
Brand, They're like a tea wagon.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
I want the machines that are making them. Shot you,
Hong Kong, such a pleasure on the Daily's like, where
is the pleasure guy? Find you? Follow you all that
good stuff on the one thing that I am on Instagram.
I suppose I still use the name that you know
it's my name, and maybe a little cultural reference Shahjastan
(01:02:11):
because I'm you know, I'm definitely the only one that's
ever thought of something like that. S H A H
J I S T A N.
Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
And please, for the love of God, watch Deli Boys,
so we can get a second seasons, get be employed
because as I told you, my my loans are in forbearance,
so come on, I would love to keep being able
to chip away at those.
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
And also, yes, watch after Math on Netflix. I play
an ethnically ambiguous action hero in a movie about terrorists
where I am not a terrorist. So I want wow
there in your face, Hollywood, in your face? Or also,
good job Hollywood, I guess please hire. Is there a
work of media that you've been enjoying. I will give
(01:02:51):
a shout out to my friend Kareem Rahama's Subway Takes
and specifically the episode featuring the creator of Delhi. Bo
is up the less talking about how men are the
most the more emotional out of in the two gender situation,
not that it's only you know what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Yeah, I feel in the in the binary perspective, in
the binary world.
Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Thank you thank you, Miles.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Miles, Huh, where can people find you?
Speaker 9 (01:03:19):
And is that media trying me on the corner pushing
dope with the dope boys? You know rappers is talking
to me as if we're in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I tell them quick, no, I move Coke find me
everywhere at Miles of Gray. Uh what else?
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Basketball podcast Myles and Jack got mad boost as I
just I fully morph into a knickspan.
Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Okay, it's just it's time baby. Oh and I don't
know Sajahrne. You a Celtics fan? I know are you from?
Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
I don't watch sports in any way?
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Great, fantastic you are.
Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
You have transcended and if I did, I definitely would
not watch Boston Sports.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
All right, good guy, he was a good egg. I
knew he's a good egg.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
But anyway, Yeah, Jack on Mad Boosey's for NBA Talk
four twenty d Fiance for ninety day Fiance Talk.
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Yeah, a working media I'm liking.
Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Yeah Russian Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, how about that? This
is from at in visit hole dot Besky dot Social.
I'll be saying, explain yourself for every good morning I
get tomorrow. I just like the idea of just clapping
back immediately and then uh the Onion at the onion
dot com on Blue Sky, I posted Republican infighting your
(01:04:34):
reps over whether Trump Bill beautiful or handsome.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
I'd also love to shout out am radio traffic on
the threes. Hell yeah, great traffic on the traffic on
the threes. They've been doing him for a while now.
Fucking just up I in the sky and I and
the You know that is such a fucking grandiose name
for what they're doing. Where your eye in the sky.
(01:05:01):
You know that word that people made for God? That's us. Yeah,
up here checking out traffic patterns a workimedia I've been enjoying.
L bark at Franz Sherbet tweeted me to my AI
enabled smart fridge in twenty thirty eight, do we have
any milk left my fridge? Wow? Now that's a question
(01:05:22):
worth exploring. By asking me something like that, you've proven
that you're not thinking in ordinary ways. You're dialed into
what's really vital about food. Let's dive in my god,
you fridge, we just go back to ice boxes? Man, Hey,
hawkings radiation? Could we knock this out by Uh? Yeah,
(01:05:45):
I just did what my twenty thirty hawkings a Hawking, Hey,
Brad Pitt's and.
Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Hey, it's like the Thunders versus the Pelican later much.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
You can find me on Twitter at jack Undersquirrel, running
on Blue Sky at Jackobe the Number one. You can
find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeikeeist.
We're at the Daily Zeikeist. On Instagram, you can go
to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it,
and there you will find the footnote, which is where
we link off to the information that we talked about
(01:06:16):
in today's episode. We also link off to a song
that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there
a song you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yeah? Yeah, I encounter a lot of interesting music on
TikTok because my algorithm is mostly like interesting music, but
then also trends that are happening there. And there's so
many people I've seen just dancing to this like slow
down version of Sam Galatri's Assumptions and just doing like
a like a ballroom dance to it.
Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Whatever. That's the TikTok trend.
Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
But there's actually an amazing k Tranada remix of Assumptions
by Sam Gallatry and that's the track I want to.
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Go out on.
Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
It's the Assumptions k Tranada edit of Sam Gala Trees
or Galatries Assumptions G E L L A I t
R Y anyway search Patronata assumptions. It's going to come
up and it's a banger.
Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
All right. We will link off to that in the
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That's going to do it for us this morning. We're
back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and
we will talk to you all then. Bye, goodbye, bye bye, goodbye.
Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
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