September 18, 2025 • 30 mins
In this edition of We Are But A SecTrend Rate Podcast, Jack and Miles discuss the cancellation of Jimmy Kimmel, that weird moment when you are forced to agree with Tucker Carlson, the 'One Battle After Another' reviews rolling in and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of We
Are but a sec trend rate podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
You do not have to look out our way. Good sir,
he went second rate.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
He wouldn't it punch a second rate podcast in the.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Face with wearing glasses.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Miles Gray,
and yep, that's a full of fascism. Wow. Got it's
a full of fascism.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You've hit it. You know that thing where it's like
you are here on the road to fashion thing. It's like, bro,
what wow? Wow?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I mean, I mean, we're definitely gonna be people who
are like we've been there, and I get that, and
we've been saying that for a while. But also this
is for some reason, this just feels like the most
naked and like kind of just mainstreaming of it where
it's just like that guy said a thing we don't
like and now his show is gone. And by the way, yes,
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I know, h fashions is not the preferred nomenclature of
our new ball is the Donald Trump administration. I think
they prefer we refer to it as making comedy not
unillegal again, yes, yes, yes, yes, but just for the
sake of clarity for our listeners, since they've been listening
for a while, we'll use the phrase that applies based
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on uh, you know, centuries of historic precedent, and.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's a form of fascism.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You're here, baby.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I mean it's a little bit different because now you're
using basically that you're weaponizing the greed of CEOs and
the worship.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, shareholders been there, but yeah, it is coming into focus. Basically,
they put pressure on so that this is in reference
to the Jimmy Kimmel cancelation.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What what.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
The other fascism Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel got canceled for Halloween candy. Guy, I
know who's going to steal their kids Halloween candy this year?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, that was really shocked. A friend of mine who's
like not into the news texted me the second that
story broke and I was like, oh my, yeah, like
when a noormy friend was like, dude, this is bad.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Kim First, they came for the trans community and I
said nothing all the way.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now they came for Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Kimmel and now look at me.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And it was too damn late. What's next Jimmy fallon.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Anyways, Basically, they put pressure on anyone who has a
big corporate merger coming up. Seems to be the playbook
right now, which is, you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Having to be mindful about how they do this.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They're having to use strategy, and they're like, oh, these
are like little you know, pain points. So going after
anybody who has a big corporate merger coming up, getting
them to do whatever they want, which is how they
got Colbert canceled before, how they got sixty minutes essentially
neutered before, and that plays in here again. And then
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every other corporation is going to fall in line because
they're scared, not.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Even fucking an attempt at pushback.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Like when you read the stories about the behind the
scenes of it, you're like, uh, like it seemed like people.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Were like, well, he didn't do anything wrong, kill didn't
do anything wrong, Like why should we why should we
do this? And then they're because it's going to be
bad if we don't, you're going to be mean to us.
And wow, it's it's not a system that's built to
stand up to fascism like the people we have, you know,
So at the Baltimore Sun. I guess the head of
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one of those right wing media outlets like took over
the Baltimore Sun earlier. The right wing guy who took
over CBS is now thinking about taking over Paramount.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah. The guy behind Sinclair Broadcasting is yeah, Sinclair.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And so it's just all these right wing people who
are going to be able to get the clearance and
the support the government support to take over anything they want.
And the only people that we have standing in the
way on behalf of democracy are CEOs.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yes, old CEOs who are going to die at any
moment of old age, and ones.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Who aren't are like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So this is I think people think we're in less
trouble than we are because in America there is this
large body of work that has been built around making
CEOs seem more smart and principled and like more like
mavericks than they actually are. You know, like once somebody
becomes super successful, they write a fake biography of themselves
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where they like did it on their own against against
all these forces working against them, instead of just.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Covered up that murder on my own. I didn't need
daddy's help.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, But I mean the truth, the truth is that
CEOs generally, like you get really wealthy often by being predatory,
finding a imbalance, and then just exploiting that mismatch over
and over again until you're super rich. But then you know,
like inside corporations, like this is exactly what we're going
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to see and continue to see. Is like, you know,
people in the c suite a lot of the time
are not getting where they are because they're courageous or
value based, and like everybody who's worked in a corporate
environment kind of knows this that it's like a hive
of ass covering and you know, smart people using their
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brain power to get aligned with whatever is in the
interest of the company, you know what I mean, And so.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's your way to go upward.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, so this is a sick system from the start,
and it's being put to a major stress test and
is not holding up in any way as well. We'll
get into the specifics of this, but I just want
to say, if we get canceled, look for us on Patreon.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I think devenmo.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But yeah I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I think we're still two second rate, so we probably Yeah, yeah,
you got some time.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think being just in like the middle of like
the top one hundred ish two hundred is shows.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Is that nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, we're staying.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We're saying, go, look, they don't know about us.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know, the.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Mediocrity of this show has been a strategy. We could
have made a show those like we've been trying to
just keep a low profile. So we appreciate you putting
up with the mediocrity. We just couldn't have you guys
getting so excited that you then spread the word and
we become so popular that we then attract the eyes
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of their new fascist overlord.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Well, the one good thing is that at least, you know,
podcasts aren't technically covered over like the FCC doesn't regulate that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know, the FCC won't let me be or let
me be me.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So let's just see let's talk about yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So that's what a fun So a lot of people
are making. They're like, great, we have to defend Jimmy Kimmel,
and we we kind of do.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
In this case.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The x Win Benstein's money host was suspended indefinitely by ABC,
owned by Disney over comments about the Charlie Kirk shooting.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And not even specifically the shooting, more about like the
handling of it by political politicians in the aftermath.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, that the right seemed like they were very scared
that this person would have right wing politics, which is
pretty I think everybody was scared that this person was
going to have their politics. That was like a big
trend online over the weekend for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Everybody was like, oh god, funny.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well yeah, and then also just taking shots at Trump's
response and reaction to it too, like that one clip
he played where it's like, how you dealing with It's like,
I'm fine, We're building a ballroom, yes, and then you're like,
and then he's dancing at a Yankees game.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, But when a man has a dance in his heart,
you know, when a guy is just a great, great dancer,
then sometimes the dance is going to break out and
he you know, when YMCA comes on, Donald Trump is
going to do the Tony Koleett at the end of
Hereditary dance.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This lesson you describe it as man.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So yeah, so this is how it went down. He
said a thing that offended the Trump administration about the
Charlie Kirk shooting, not not laughing at the Charlie Kirk shooting,
saying like people are exploiting it for political gain or
like afraid of it not being exploitable for political gain,
kind of very like middle of the Road Anadyne. The
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FCC head Brendan Carr then straight up threatened ABC affiliates,
which like he went on a show with our boy, right,
wasn't it with Benny Johnson, He went on a podcast
with would they got drug fire after drive by shootings
or after mass shootings?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Himself?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Of course, yes, yes, of course, the famous.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The famous went on there and was like, you know,
I think that ABC's affiliates should take a hard look
at whether they carry this anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
One of babies.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Why not ABC directly? Why not go talk to the
why not address the network directly? White Miles, Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
The SCC is overseeing a potential eight billion dollar murders,
six billion dollars like some.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Six or two, I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
By one of ABC's affiliates, Next Star, which is one
of the biggest owners of local TV stations in the country,
and so within hours of him saying that on a podcast,
they announced that they were no longer going to carry
Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And I remember this from my time working at ABC
that affiliates are a bit like that's the thing, like
there is this.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Weird little middle man.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And by from my time working at ABC, I of
course mean from watching Studio sixty on the Sunset Strip,
but like they're always worried about affiliates like the which
are like smaller you know, companies that own the local
TV channel ATTV.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
In LA like or k all of your whatever, like
that's not typically owned by the network.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Those are affiliated stations.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right, Yeah, So the corporate powers that be did what
they did best. They knew there was nothing wrong with
the comments that Kimmel made, but were reportedly uh pissing
themselves all day.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's a quote quote pissing themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
All day, ultimately capitulated to the authoritarian threat. And yeah,
like we said, Next Star is currently in the middle
of a six point two billion dollar merger with another
media company, which requires FCC approval. You know, the basically
the exact same playbook as the Stephen Colbert situation where
there was a massive merger. And I think so like
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that is like a very like clear quid pro quo.
But I think just thinking of it as like a
very isolated, local quid pro quo where it's like, ah,
they made that decision, and now we let them do
the merger doesn't communicate fully, doesn't get at fully the
malignancy of this that like, yeah, once they're able to
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merge and they're already seeing the benefit of aligning their
values with the Trump administration, well now they're a media
behemoth that is in line with the Trump administration. And
as we saw with the sky Dance merger, once they
like gobbled up the company, they then installed like super
right wing forces to oversee CBS News.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So it's like.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's pretty much what's what orbon Is did in Hungary, right,
It's like you get all of you get these media
elite together, and they just begin to solidify and like
they become what's the word I'm looking for, not a singularity,
but the concentration of like all of them. Yeah, essentially
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they're just like, well, there's three companies and they're they're
all aligned with the president.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, they're all doing what the president want.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
They will use financial coercion to basically be like, oh,
well you can't, well then we'll we'll kill your company financially,
and then we'll come in and buy the pieces of
it and then make it say We'll make this zombie
brand say whatever we need it to say now.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And we've been talking from the very early days of
this podcast about the fact that corporation.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Solid that's what I was looking.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
For, consolidation, baby, that corporations are you know, operate from
this position that our only obligation is to do what
is in the best shareholder value. You know, Like there's
the book The Corporation that came out in the nineties
that like wrote about the fact that because corporations are
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legally people in the United States, you have this situation
where you have these very powerful eventually people who are
legally permitted and almost like legally required to act as sociopaths.
And so that is the structure of power in this country.
(13:11):
It's not going to stand up under authoritarian pressure.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
No, no, no, when your overarching principle is make money, Yeah,
and at all costs, like truly at all costs doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
This it's like God, it's like all these political theories
from years ago that shit, Jesus making us do homework
by making the homework come alive.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And really it's a teachable moment I think is above
all Sean Hannity claimed that he couldn't find a single
prom so they're they're basically trying to deny that this
is what is happening. Hannity was like, I can't find
a single conservative voice. This is actually a quote. Can't
find a single prominent conservative voice in the country that
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even remotely wanted or hoped or was pushing to get
Jimmy Kimmel taken off the air. The President literally said
Kimmel should be taken off the air, like multiple times,
like a refrain.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He's been saying it for fucking years.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, And then that take was further invalidated when Trump
celebrated the Kimmel suspension on truth Social and said that
NBC should similarly cancel Seth Myers and Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And he's like, it's a do it, NBC President dj T. Yeah,
where's getting somewhere with his tweeting? You know, where's the resistance?
I mean, I know that it says Hollywood is totally opposed.
Now what that means, Yeah, Oh, I don't know. I
mean you can be like, eh, I'm opposed, but this
is truly like using government regulatory agencies to censor speech
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is really fucking something else and it's like wild too
when because like fucking Enriquetario, the proud boy guy. He
was like, it's a little hypocritical, he.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Said, Tucker Carlson come out and say like, this is
a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
This is Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I mean again, Tucker Carlson, one of the most bad
faith of bad faith actors. But again, broken clocks and
all that, Uh, this is this is him talking about.
He's like, what, like, what where? Where's the momentum going here?
If this is what we're doing in canceling, Jimmy Kimmel
just he just wake.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Up, What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, this is the movement, movement you've been a part
of about that's.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
The other part of it. You're like, that's why I'm like,
what are you fucking saying?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But again, I mean, I guess the saying always goes
inside Tucker Carlson. There are two wolves. Yeah, actually we
have to take a quick break. We'll come back and
hear what Tucker Carlson have to say about this.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And we're back and.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Right, So, as we were saying, inside Tucker Carlson, there
are two wolves. One that isn't overtat w's white supremacist,
and then another one I think just woke up after
like being in a comber hibernating for a long time, and.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They saw himself in a bit of jeopardy.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
That's what I think is probably the most because nothing
he does is for the good of humanity.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I think he also has presidential aspirations and sees that
this is going in a very unpopular direction, and so
maybe he's like, I'll be the guy who doesn't do
how man fuckers are doing.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I can't wait for the Carlson Rogan ticket.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Anyway, here's Tucker Carlson talking about the First Amendment under threat.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
You hope that a year from now the tromoil we're
seeing in the aftermath of his murder won't be leveraged
to bring hate speech laws to this country, And trust
me if it is.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
If that does happen, there is never.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
A more justified moment for civil disobedience than that ever,
and there never will be. Because they can tell you
what to say, they're telling you what to think. There
is nothing they can't do to you because they don't
consider you human, they don't believe you have a soul,
a human being with a soul, A freeman has a
right to say what he believes.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Who is he talking about?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
People he's talking about like just the aftermath of the kirkshooting.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
No, no, I know that. But like when he says,
they don't see you as having a soul? Who the
Trump administration? Yes, the government? Yeah, buddy, what have we
been doing here?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But yeah, I mean it, it does make sense that
like at least some of the people who are conservatives
and you know, have been on this free speech ship
for a while, like some of them would be like
a little disturbed by this, maybe just temporarily. He's definitely
had some moments in the past where he's been like,
I don't know, maybe socialism is a good idea. But
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then you know, he shows up, He's at Trump's inauguration
and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, this looks bad. Can't
imagine that it's a popular move. It's really just a
question of like, is this all dismantled quickly enough for
them to never face electoral consequences?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Again?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, exactly which I And again the Democratic Party so bad,
so bad at what they do that the electoral consequences
are not going, like I are not inevitable as unpopular
as this is if the Democratic Party, unless the Democratic
Party solidifies behind Zoran. My first time saying that name correctly. Yea,
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congratulations to me. I'm sorry, sorry for having said it
wrong for so long. I just liked the joke that
it's best pronounced by the guys from too much Tuna. Yeah,
but it's it's not it's not a given that the
Democratic people are going to rally behind the Democratic Party
as unpopular as this is.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So no, because there's such a lack of belief and
faith in the Democratic Party, like it's it's it's really,
it's like it's truly at a crossroads, and it's like
you either have to completely shed this former skin, you
had to emerge as something completely different.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
But I just don't.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I just think that's ideologically and intellectually too far afield
for the establishment within the Democratic Party to to really
tack to the left to something different, because again, it's
still built on like this, the norms of capitalism and
the flow of capital, and until you're really you have
to really press against that whole idea, that whole concept
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to be like no, this is actually this is a
poison to our society, and like, the only way we
can approach anything that looks equitable is to be able
to fucking re negotiate the entire social contract. Yes, and
that's and I think that's what makes me a little
bit weary. But at the same time, I think there's
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you know, I think this is more and I don't know.
I mean, like, I all the kind of the kind
of changes we need to see also need to come
from the populace too, to really embrace an idea of
like what our power is as a population and how
we can actually demonstrate that through collective action.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, I will say I read in the past twenty
four I was the best rejoinder to the sort of
mainstream media narrative that is being kind of enforced by
the Trump administration with regards to the Charlie Kirk murder
by Tana hasse Coates in Vanity Fair, I just yea,
I think everybody should just go read that, you know.
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But he both acknowledges the horror of the murder, the
you know, danger of a moment of political violence, but
also just like presents Charlie Kirk's words in a very
like and the words of him and then the people
in his organization turning point, and it's just there's stuff
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in there that, you know, they a lot of Charlie
Kirk's statements have made the rounds, but there's a lot
of stuff that I just hadn't, Like the anti semitism,
the Jewish donors Kirk claimed were the number one funding
mechanism of radical open border neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, culture
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institutions and nonprofits, word salid, you know, the just horrifying
like you know, KKK level whites, like violent white supremacist
statements from people in his organization, and like, I didn't
know he was on the same page with Trump on
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still thinking that the Central Park five should be jailed.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I mean I feel like that's just yeah, I think
that's just like a thing you have to kind of
believe so that no l's are taken. Sure, well yeah
maybe they were, but like that doesn't mean that they
didn't do anything. I still believe they did it, even
though that's completely untrue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Anyways, I think that's worth reading for everyone.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Well, yeah, because again it's it's not just merely being like,
oh man, that's that's bad. It's like, yes, that's bad.
Here are the words that were said by this person.
Now what what are we doing to ourselves as a
nation by engaging in like an active process of ignoring
all of that? Yeah, and where does that lead us
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to if we are exactly completely just turn away from
these words and completely do this like revisionist hagiography.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, and I think corporations are very good at turning away,
like looking the other way on things, and it does.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, that's how OJ got a TV show, you know
what I mean, like the OJ prank Show. Yeah, I
mean somebody put money by. I know that didn't get
on TV. But it's that idea that sometimes it's just
like yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So now let's take a swing at it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Let's go some good news miles.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Movies, movivies are still at them movie So that that
is like the new the new thing that I think
we can lean on is it's hard to get to
things that you just like pay. The way they get
their money is like people pay to experience them, you know,
because you don't have like all these corporate entities and
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like advertising and all that shit. So movies are still
out here and one battle after another.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We've been talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
This is the Paul Thomas Anderson, the guy who made
Boogie Knights, Magnolia, The Master, Phantom, Thread, Pizza, There Will
Be Blood is maybe his best work, has a new
movie that is being advertised as like an action movie
kind of and it's about like a modern version of
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America taken over by like violent fascism, which is the
imagination on this guy for like the stuff that's based
on reality. These movies are they had they had the
first I was like, I don't know. At first, when
I saw the trailer, I was like, could go either way,
you know, like I didn't think Laker's piece was like
(24:13):
I thought I had some great moments, and then like
overall wasn't necessarily the thing that stuck with me the
most of his movies, but a couple details that were
making it interesting. It was based on a Thomas Pincheon novel,
so it's like has some structure. And then they did
this screening and everybody who like came away from it
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was like, oh yeah, this is like the this is
gonna win Best Picture this year, and like Steven Spielberg
was like, this is this reminds me of like Doctor Strangelove, which,
as everybody knows, is like one of my favorite movies
reference in this current political moment. Anyways, the review embargo
has been lifted, and it's almost like the reviews are
(24:57):
like almost suspiciously good.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I was like, is everybody okay?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Like the Daily be said it was an anti fascist
rallying cry, and I was like, you may want to
change that headline. Yeah, you know, if they're doing sweepers
for words like that on the internet, that's right, Like,
you know, maybe say it's filled with amazing patriotic messaging.
But yeah, like other critics seem to be pretty uniform
in saying this is one of the best best movies
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they've seen this year, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Whoa It said a ninety six on Metacritic.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I always, you know, everybody, I love to talk about
how Rotten Tomatoes is easily gameable, and you can tell that,
like sometimes studios put their finger on the scale a
little bit, and you know, they're like, could you make
this afresh? Even though it's two stars. It's a nice
two stars, but metacritics kind of hard to fake, and
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so there'll be movies that have like a ninety nine
on Rotten Tomatoes, but it'll be like seventy two on Ritacritic,
a Metacritic, it's currently at ninety six out of a hunger,
which is like kind of unpress And so yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Other thing that since embargoes are being lifted, that Him,
the Jordan Peele produced football movie.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
With Marlon Wains, is getting not great reviews.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's been like it spans like the reviews seem to
be stuff stuff. It's like this is such a disappointment
to others being like it's so over the top that
it's kind of fun. Yeah, so I think this one
is probably a little bit more the eye of the beholder.
One quote I saw was quote Him is a patently
ridiculous movie. It is over the top, ultra can't be
hamstrung by a ludicrous religious metaphor and edited like a
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TikToker was having a stroke while jabbing at effect buttons.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Kind of dug it, I'm on you know that way.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Like, Okay, it might be a little more experimental, or
you know, maybe I think because Jordan Peele's name is attached,
you're trying to be like this can't this certainly can't
be bad.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right this like anytime they do this, they do this
where they take the name of a great director and
they say to you by and it's like not made.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
By that person.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And sometimes that works, like with Tim Burton's The Nightmare
Before Christmas and The James and the Giant Peach are
movies that everybody thought Tim Burton directed that he did not, right,
like he just you know, put put his name on
and like, I think those helped those movies. But I
think sometimes it's just, you know, it's not it's not
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the movie that you would get from a Jordan Peele.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, I mean we know Jordan Peele apparently heads rolled
at his production company when they didn't get him the
rights to make weapons, so right, you know, look, it's
tough out there. Finally, though, this is something that we
talked about in jest. When the trailer came out Primitive War,
this was like like what if Vietnam War but dinosaurs
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also in it?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That one.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The reviews like are really positive, really and yeah, like
on Slash Film they noted that the again this is tomatoes,
but they've noted that the audience score for Primitive War
has been higher than every Jurassic Park movie save the original,
which isn't like I mean, they're like the highest ones
are scoring around like the high seventies. But I think
the takeaway was like, this movie isn't completely hamstrung by
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it having to like abide by the plot of Jurassic Park,
the reality of the Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Movies where it's like they brought them back to life.
It's like, now these motherfuckers are out here.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So it's just a it's a world in which what
if dinosaurs still existed?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
From what I understand, I don't know like what the
how they get there, but all I know is if
they're in the Vietnam War, Like, this isn't Jurassic Park anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's like it's just like nobody knows that the dinosaurs
are still around. Interesting, So it's not a world where
it's not just like it's the Vietnam War. Oh, also,
dinosaurs never went extinct.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It is.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
The Vulture Squad is sent to an isolated jungle valley
to uncover the fate of a missing Green Beret platoon.
They soon discover they are not alone a they alone
island based on.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, But I think I think what people like is
that because it's not a huge budget movie, it's still
there's like a little bit of like can't be fun
to it, and I don't know like it. A lot
of people are just kind of like it's just different.
And I like dinosaurs, so great, there you go. I
like dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I like dinosaurs.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, perfect, All right, Well those are some of the
things that are trending on this Thursday morning, uh, Thursday afternoon.
I guess when you when you guys listen to it.
We're back tomorrow with the whole ass episode of the
show with some fun uh some some fun stuff. We'll
be talking.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
About the uh Mark Zuckerberg's new medaglasses. Yeah, some light stuff,
you know, light stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
We all know ambiently, what's what's happening around us, So
maybe let's let's laugh at some oligarchs.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Will be talking about the Epsteam Files again. That feels
good because Cashpitel went down to the Gress and got
uh got his ship wrecked again.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Just flame grilled whopper.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, all of that plenty more. So we'll talk to
y'all later. Until then, be kind to each other, be
kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines where you still can't
get your flu shots, got mine, don't do nothing about
white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow.
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My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Miles Gray,
and yep, that's a full of fascism. Wow. Got it's
a full of fascism.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You've hit it. You know that thing where it's like
you are here on the road to fashion thing. It's like, bro,
what wow? Wow?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I mean, I mean, we're definitely gonna be people who
are like we've been there, and I get that, and
we've been saying that for a while. But also this
is for some reason, this just feels like the most
naked and like kind of just mainstreaming of it where
it's just like that guy said a thing we don't
like and now his show is gone. And by the way, yes,
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I know, h fashions is not the preferred nomenclature of
our new ball is the Donald Trump administration. I think
they prefer we refer to it as making comedy not
unillegal again, yes, yes, yes, yes, but just for the
sake of clarity for our listeners, since they've been listening
for a while, we'll use the phrase that applies based
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on uh, you know, centuries of historic precedent, and.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's a form of fascism.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You're here, baby.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I mean it's a little bit different because now you're
using basically that you're weaponizing the greed of CEOs and
the worship.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, shareholders been there, but yeah, it is coming into focus. Basically,
they put pressure on so that this is in reference
to the Jimmy Kimmel cancelation.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What what.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
The other fascism Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel got canceled for Halloween candy. Guy, I
know who's going to steal their kids Halloween candy this year?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, that was really shocked. A friend of mine who's
like not into the news texted me the second that
story broke and I was like, oh my, yeah, like
when a noormy friend was like, dude, this is bad.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Kim First, they came for the trans community and I
said nothing all the way.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now they came for Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Kimmel and now look at me.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And it was too damn late. What's next Jimmy fallon.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Anyways, Basically, they put pressure on anyone who has a
big corporate merger coming up. Seems to be the playbook
right now, which is, you know, they're.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Having to be mindful about how they do this.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
They're having to use strategy, and they're like, oh, these
are like little you know, pain points. So going after
anybody who has a big corporate merger coming up, getting
them to do whatever they want, which is how they
got Colbert canceled before, how they got sixty minutes essentially
neutered before, and that plays in here again. And then
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every other corporation is going to fall in line because
they're scared, not.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Even fucking an attempt at pushback.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Like when you read the stories about the behind the
scenes of it, you're like, uh, like it seemed like people.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Were like, well, he didn't do anything wrong, kill didn't
do anything wrong, Like why should we why should we
do this? And then they're because it's going to be
bad if we don't, you're going to be mean to us.
And wow, it's it's not a system that's built to
stand up to fascism like the people we have, you know,
So at the Baltimore Sun. I guess the head of
(03:33):
one of those right wing media outlets like took over
the Baltimore Sun earlier. The right wing guy who took
over CBS is now thinking about taking over Paramount.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah. The guy behind Sinclair Broadcasting is yeah, Sinclair.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And so it's just all these right wing people who
are going to be able to get the clearance and
the support the government support to take over anything they want.
And the only people that we have standing in the
way on behalf of democracy are CEOs.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yes, old CEOs who are going to die at any
moment of old age, and ones.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Who aren't are like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
So this is I think people think we're in less
trouble than we are because in America there is this
large body of work that has been built around making
CEOs seem more smart and principled and like more like
mavericks than they actually are. You know, like once somebody
becomes super successful, they write a fake biography of themselves
(04:35):
where they like did it on their own against against
all these forces working against them, instead of just.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Covered up that murder on my own. I didn't need
daddy's help.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, But I mean the truth, the truth is that
CEOs generally, like you get really wealthy often by being predatory,
finding a imbalance, and then just exploiting that mismatch over
and over again until you're super rich. But then you know,
like inside corporations, like this is exactly what we're going
(05:07):
to see and continue to see. Is like, you know,
people in the c suite a lot of the time
are not getting where they are because they're courageous or
value based, and like everybody who's worked in a corporate
environment kind of knows this that it's like a hive
of ass covering and you know, smart people using their
(05:28):
brain power to get aligned with whatever is in the
interest of the company, you know what I mean, And so.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's your way to go upward.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, so this is a sick system from the start,
and it's being put to a major stress test and
is not holding up in any way as well. We'll
get into the specifics of this, but I just want
to say, if we get canceled, look for us on Patreon.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I think devenmo.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
But yeah I don't.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I think we're still two second rate, so we probably Yeah, yeah,
you got some time.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I think being just in like the middle of like
the top one hundred ish two hundred is shows.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Is that nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, we're staying.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
We're saying, go, look, they don't know about us.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
You know, the.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Mediocrity of this show has been a strategy. We could
have made a show those like we've been trying to
just keep a low profile. So we appreciate you putting
up with the mediocrity. We just couldn't have you guys
getting so excited that you then spread the word and
we become so popular that we then attract the eyes
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of their new fascist overlord.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Well, the one good thing is that at least, you know,
podcasts aren't technically covered over like the FCC doesn't regulate that.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know, the FCC won't let me be or let
me be me.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So let's just see let's talk about yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So that's what a fun So a lot of people
are making. They're like, great, we have to defend Jimmy Kimmel,
and we we kind of do.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
In this case.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
The x Win Benstein's money host was suspended indefinitely by ABC,
owned by Disney over comments about the Charlie Kirk shooting.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And not even specifically the shooting, more about like the
handling of it by political politicians in the aftermath.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, that the right seemed like they were very scared
that this person would have right wing politics, which is
pretty I think everybody was scared that this person was
going to have their politics. That was like a big
trend online over the weekend for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Everybody was like, oh god, funny.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Well yeah, and then also just taking shots at Trump's
response and reaction to it too, like that one clip
he played where it's like, how you dealing with It's like,
I'm fine, We're building a ballroom, yes, and then you're like,
and then he's dancing at a Yankees game.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yes, But when a man has a dance in his heart,
you know, when a guy is just a great, great dancer,
then sometimes the dance is going to break out and
he you know, when YMCA comes on, Donald Trump is
going to do the Tony Koleett at the end of
Hereditary dance.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
This lesson you describe it as man.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So yeah, so this is how it went down. He
said a thing that offended the Trump administration about the
Charlie Kirk shooting, not not laughing at the Charlie Kirk shooting,
saying like people are exploiting it for political gain or
like afraid of it not being exploitable for political gain,
kind of very like middle of the Road Anadyne. The
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FCC head Brendan Carr then straight up threatened ABC affiliates,
which like he went on a show with our boy, right,
wasn't it with Benny Johnson, He went on a podcast
with would they got drug fire after drive by shootings
or after mass shootings?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Himself?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Of course, yes, yes, of course, the famous.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
The famous went on there and was like, you know,
I think that ABC's affiliates should take a hard look
at whether they carry this anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
One of babies.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Why not ABC directly? Why not go talk to the
why not address the network directly? White Miles, Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
The SCC is overseeing a potential eight billion dollar murders,
six billion dollars like some.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Six or two, I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
By one of ABC's affiliates, Next Star, which is one
of the biggest owners of local TV stations in the country,
and so within hours of him saying that on a podcast,
they announced that they were no longer going to carry
Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
And I remember this from my time working at ABC
that affiliates are a bit like that's the thing, like
there is this.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Weird little middle man.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And by from my time working at ABC, I of
course mean from watching Studio sixty on the Sunset Strip,
but like they're always worried about affiliates like the which
are like smaller you know, companies that own the local
TV channel ATTV.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
In LA like or k all of your whatever, like
that's not typically owned by the network.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Those are affiliated stations.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Right, Yeah, So the corporate powers that be did what
they did best. They knew there was nothing wrong with
the comments that Kimmel made, but were reportedly uh pissing
themselves all day.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's a quote quote pissing themselves.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
All day, ultimately capitulated to the authoritarian threat. And yeah,
like we said, Next Star is currently in the middle
of a six point two billion dollar merger with another
media company, which requires FCC approval. You know, the basically
the exact same playbook as the Stephen Colbert situation where
there was a massive merger. And I think so like
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that is like a very like clear quid pro quo.
But I think just thinking of it as like a
very isolated, local quid pro quo where it's like, ah,
they made that decision, and now we let them do
the merger doesn't communicate fully, doesn't get at fully the
malignancy of this that like, yeah, once they're able to
(11:21):
merge and they're already seeing the benefit of aligning their
values with the Trump administration, well now they're a media
behemoth that is in line with the Trump administration. And
as we saw with the sky Dance merger, once they
like gobbled up the company, they then installed like super
right wing forces to oversee CBS News.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So it's like.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's pretty much what's what orbon Is did in Hungary, right,
It's like you get all of you get these media
elite together, and they just begin to solidify and like
they become what's the word I'm looking for, not a singularity,
but the concentration of like all of them. Yeah, essentially
(12:06):
they're just like, well, there's three companies and they're they're
all aligned with the president.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, they're all doing what the president want.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
They will use financial coercion to basically be like, oh,
well you can't, well then we'll we'll kill your company financially,
and then we'll come in and buy the pieces of
it and then make it say We'll make this zombie
brand say whatever we need it to say now.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And we've been talking from the very early days of
this podcast about the fact that corporation.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Solid that's what I was looking.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
For, consolidation, baby, that corporations are you know, operate from
this position that our only obligation is to do what
is in the best shareholder value. You know, Like there's
the book The Corporation that came out in the nineties
that like wrote about the fact that because corporations are
(12:51):
legally people in the United States, you have this situation
where you have these very powerful eventually people who are
legally permitted and almost like legally required to act as sociopaths.
And so that is the structure of power in this country.
(13:11):
It's not going to stand up under authoritarian pressure.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
No, no, no, when your overarching principle is make money, Yeah,
and at all costs, like truly at all costs doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
This it's like God, it's like all these political theories
from years ago that shit, Jesus making us do homework
by making the homework come alive.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And really it's a teachable moment I think is above
all Sean Hannity claimed that he couldn't find a single
prom so they're they're basically trying to deny that this
is what is happening. Hannity was like, I can't find
a single conservative voice. This is actually a quote. Can't
find a single prominent conservative voice in the country that
(14:00):
even remotely wanted or hoped or was pushing to get
Jimmy Kimmel taken off the air. The President literally said
Kimmel should be taken off the air, like multiple times,
like a refrain.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
He's been saying it for fucking years.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, And then that take was further invalidated when Trump
celebrated the Kimmel suspension on truth Social and said that
NBC should similarly cancel Seth Myers and Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
And he's like, it's a do it, NBC President dj T. Yeah,
where's getting somewhere with his tweeting? You know, where's the resistance?
I mean, I know that it says Hollywood is totally opposed.
Now what that means, Yeah, Oh, I don't know. I
mean you can be like, eh, I'm opposed, but this
is truly like using government regulatory agencies to censor speech
(14:51):
is really fucking something else and it's like wild too
when because like fucking Enriquetario, the proud boy guy. He
was like, it's a little hypocritical, he.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Said, Tucker Carlson come out and say like, this is
a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
This is Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I mean again, Tucker Carlson, one of the most bad
faith of bad faith actors. But again, broken clocks and
all that, Uh, this is this is him talking about.
He's like, what, like, what where? Where's the momentum going here?
If this is what we're doing in canceling, Jimmy Kimmel
just he just wake.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Up, What the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, this is the movement, movement you've been a part
of about that's.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
The other part of it. You're like, that's why I'm like,
what are you fucking saying?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
But again, I mean, I guess the saying always goes
inside Tucker Carlson. There are two wolves. Yeah, actually we
have to take a quick break. We'll come back and
hear what Tucker Carlson have to say about this.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
And we're back and.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Right, So, as we were saying, inside Tucker Carlson, there
are two wolves. One that isn't overtat w's white supremacist,
and then another one I think just woke up after
like being in a comber hibernating for a long time, and.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They saw himself in a bit of jeopardy.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
That's what I think is probably the most because nothing
he does is for the good of humanity.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I think he also has presidential aspirations and sees that
this is going in a very unpopular direction, and so
maybe he's like, I'll be the guy who doesn't do
how man fuckers are doing.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I can't wait for the Carlson Rogan ticket.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Oh man.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Anyway, here's Tucker Carlson talking about the First Amendment under threat.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
You hope that a year from now the tromoil we're
seeing in the aftermath of his murder won't be leveraged
to bring hate speech laws to this country, And trust
me if it is.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
If that does happen, there is never.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
A more justified moment for civil disobedience than that ever,
and there never will be. Because they can tell you
what to say, they're telling you what to think. There
is nothing they can't do to you because they don't
consider you human, they don't believe you have a soul,
a human being with a soul, A freeman has a
right to say what he believes.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Who is he talking about?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
People he's talking about like just the aftermath of the kirkshooting.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
No, no, I know that. But like when he says,
they don't see you as having a soul? Who the
Trump administration? Yes, the government? Yeah, buddy, what have we
been doing here?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
But yeah, I mean it, it does make sense that
like at least some of the people who are conservatives
and you know, have been on this free speech ship
for a while, like some of them would be like
a little disturbed by this, maybe just temporarily. He's definitely
had some moments in the past where he's been like,
I don't know, maybe socialism is a good idea. But
(17:52):
then you know, he shows up, He's at Trump's inauguration
and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, this looks bad. Can't
imagine that it's a popular move. It's really just a
question of like, is this all dismantled quickly enough for
them to never face electoral consequences?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Again?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, exactly which I And again the Democratic Party so bad,
so bad at what they do that the electoral consequences
are not going, like I are not inevitable as unpopular
as this is if the Democratic Party, unless the Democratic
Party solidifies behind Zoran. My first time saying that name correctly. Yea,
(18:35):
congratulations to me. I'm sorry, sorry for having said it
wrong for so long. I just liked the joke that
it's best pronounced by the guys from too much Tuna. Yeah,
but it's it's not it's not a given that the
Democratic people are going to rally behind the Democratic Party
as unpopular as this is.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
So no, because there's such a lack of belief and
faith in the Democratic Party, like it's it's it's really,
it's like it's truly at a crossroads, and it's like
you either have to completely shed this former skin, you
had to emerge as something completely different.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
But I just don't.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I just think that's ideologically and intellectually too far afield
for the establishment within the Democratic Party to to really
tack to the left to something different, because again, it's
still built on like this, the norms of capitalism and
the flow of capital, and until you're really you have
to really press against that whole idea, that whole concept
(19:34):
to be like no, this is actually this is a
poison to our society, and like, the only way we
can approach anything that looks equitable is to be able
to fucking re negotiate the entire social contract. Yes, and
that's and I think that's what makes me a little
bit weary. But at the same time, I think there's
(19:55):
you know, I think this is more and I don't know.
I mean, like, I all the kind of the kind
of changes we need to see also need to come
from the populace too, to really embrace an idea of
like what our power is as a population and how
we can actually demonstrate that through collective action.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, I will say I read in the past twenty
four I was the best rejoinder to the sort of
mainstream media narrative that is being kind of enforced by
the Trump administration with regards to the Charlie Kirk murder
by Tana hasse Coates in Vanity Fair, I just yea,
I think everybody should just go read that, you know.
(20:36):
But he both acknowledges the horror of the murder, the
you know, danger of a moment of political violence, but
also just like presents Charlie Kirk's words in a very
like and the words of him and then the people
in his organization turning point, and it's just there's stuff
(20:58):
in there that, you know, they a lot of Charlie
Kirk's statements have made the rounds, but there's a lot
of stuff that I just hadn't, Like the anti semitism,
the Jewish donors Kirk claimed were the number one funding
mechanism of radical open border neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, culture
(21:19):
institutions and nonprofits, word salid, you know, the just horrifying
like you know, KKK level whites, like violent white supremacist
statements from people in his organization, and like, I didn't
know he was on the same page with Trump on
(21:41):
still thinking that the Central Park five should be jailed.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I mean I feel like that's just yeah, I think
that's just like a thing you have to kind of
believe so that no l's are taken. Sure, well yeah
maybe they were, but like that doesn't mean that they
didn't do anything. I still believe they did it, even
though that's completely untrue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Anyways, I think that's worth reading for everyone.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Well, yeah, because again it's it's not just merely being like,
oh man, that's that's bad. It's like, yes, that's bad.
Here are the words that were said by this person.
Now what what are we doing to ourselves as a
nation by engaging in like an active process of ignoring
all of that? Yeah, and where does that lead us
(22:23):
to if we are exactly completely just turn away from
these words and completely do this like revisionist hagiography.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, and I think corporations are very good at turning away,
like looking the other way on things, and it does.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, that's how OJ got a TV show, you know
what I mean, like the OJ prank Show. Yeah, I
mean somebody put money by. I know that didn't get
on TV. But it's that idea that sometimes it's just
like yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So now let's take a swing at it.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Let's go some good news miles.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Movies, movivies are still at them movie So that that
is like the new the new thing that I think
we can lean on is it's hard to get to
things that you just like pay. The way they get
their money is like people pay to experience them, you know,
because you don't have like all these corporate entities and
(23:22):
like advertising and all that shit. So movies are still
out here and one battle after another.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
We've been talking about.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
This is the Paul Thomas Anderson, the guy who made
Boogie Knights, Magnolia, The Master, Phantom, Thread, Pizza, There Will
Be Blood is maybe his best work, has a new
movie that is being advertised as like an action movie
kind of and it's about like a modern version of
(23:51):
America taken over by like violent fascism, which is the
imagination on this guy for like the stuff that's based
on reality. These movies are they had they had the
first I was like, I don't know. At first, when
I saw the trailer, I was like, could go either way,
you know, like I didn't think Laker's piece was like
(24:13):
I thought I had some great moments, and then like
overall wasn't necessarily the thing that stuck with me the
most of his movies, but a couple details that were
making it interesting. It was based on a Thomas Pincheon novel,
so it's like has some structure. And then they did
this screening and everybody who like came away from it
(24:34):
was like, oh yeah, this is like the this is
gonna win Best Picture this year, and like Steven Spielberg
was like, this is this reminds me of like Doctor Strangelove, which,
as everybody knows, is like one of my favorite movies
reference in this current political moment. Anyways, the review embargo
has been lifted, and it's almost like the reviews are
(24:57):
like almost suspiciously good.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I was like, is everybody okay?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Like the Daily be said it was an anti fascist
rallying cry, and I was like, you may want to
change that headline. Yeah, you know, if they're doing sweepers
for words like that on the internet, that's right, Like,
you know, maybe say it's filled with amazing patriotic messaging.
But yeah, like other critics seem to be pretty uniform
in saying this is one of the best best movies
(25:22):
they've seen this year, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Whoa It said a ninety six on Metacritic.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I always, you know, everybody, I love to talk about
how Rotten Tomatoes is easily gameable, and you can tell that,
like sometimes studios put their finger on the scale a
little bit, and you know, they're like, could you make
this afresh? Even though it's two stars. It's a nice
two stars, but metacritics kind of hard to fake, and
(25:47):
so there'll be movies that have like a ninety nine
on Rotten Tomatoes, but it'll be like seventy two on Ritacritic,
a Metacritic, it's currently at ninety six out of a hunger,
which is like kind of unpress And so yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Other thing that since embargoes are being lifted, that Him,
the Jordan Peele produced football movie.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
With Marlon Wains, is getting not great reviews.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
That's been like it spans like the reviews seem to
be stuff stuff. It's like this is such a disappointment
to others being like it's so over the top that
it's kind of fun. Yeah, so I think this one
is probably a little bit more the eye of the beholder.
One quote I saw was quote Him is a patently
ridiculous movie. It is over the top, ultra can't be
hamstrung by a ludicrous religious metaphor and edited like a
(26:33):
TikToker was having a stroke while jabbing at effect buttons.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Kind of dug it, I'm on you know that way.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Like, Okay, it might be a little more experimental, or
you know, maybe I think because Jordan Peele's name is attached,
you're trying to be like this can't this certainly can't
be bad.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right this like anytime they do this, they do this
where they take the name of a great director and
they say to you by and it's like not made.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
By that person.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And sometimes that works, like with Tim Burton's The Nightmare
Before Christmas and The James and the Giant Peach are
movies that everybody thought Tim Burton directed that he did not, right,
like he just you know, put put his name on
and like, I think those helped those movies. But I
think sometimes it's just, you know, it's not it's not
(27:25):
the movie that you would get from a Jordan Peele.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Well, I mean we know Jordan Peele apparently heads rolled
at his production company when they didn't get him the
rights to make weapons, so right, you know, look, it's
tough out there. Finally, though, this is something that we
talked about in jest. When the trailer came out Primitive War,
this was like like what if Vietnam War but dinosaurs
(27:49):
also in it?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
That one.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The reviews like are really positive, really and yeah, like
on Slash Film they noted that the again this is tomatoes,
but they've noted that the audience score for Primitive War
has been higher than every Jurassic Park movie save the original,
which isn't like I mean, they're like the highest ones
are scoring around like the high seventies. But I think
the takeaway was like, this movie isn't completely hamstrung by
(28:15):
it having to like abide by the plot of Jurassic Park,
the reality of the Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Movies where it's like they brought them back to life.
It's like, now these motherfuckers are out here.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So it's just a it's a world in which what
if dinosaurs still existed?
Speaker 4 (28:28):
From what I understand, I don't know like what the
how they get there, but all I know is if
they're in the Vietnam War, Like, this isn't Jurassic Park anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It's like it's just like nobody knows that the dinosaurs
are still around. Interesting, So it's not a world where
it's not just like it's the Vietnam War. Oh, also,
dinosaurs never went extinct.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
It is.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
The Vulture Squad is sent to an isolated jungle valley
to uncover the fate of a missing Green Beret platoon.
They soon discover they are not alone a they alone
island based on.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, But I think I think what people like is
that because it's not a huge budget movie, it's still
there's like a little bit of like can't be fun
to it, and I don't know like it. A lot
of people are just kind of like it's just different.
And I like dinosaurs, so great, there you go. I
like dinosaurs.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I like dinosaurs.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, perfect, All right, Well those are some of the
things that are trending on this Thursday morning, uh, Thursday afternoon.
I guess when you when you guys listen to it.
We're back tomorrow with the whole ass episode of the
show with some fun uh some some fun stuff. We'll
be talking.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
About the uh Mark Zuckerberg's new medaglasses. Yeah, some light stuff,
you know, light stuff.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
We all know ambiently, what's what's happening around us, So
maybe let's let's laugh at some oligarchs.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Will be talking about the Epsteam Files again. That feels
good because Cashpitel went down to the Gress and got
uh got his ship wrecked again.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Just flame grilled whopper.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, all of that plenty more. So we'll talk to
y'all later. Until then, be kind to each other, be
kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines where you still can't
get your flu shots, got mine, don't do nothing about
white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Bye bye.
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Speaker 3 (30:21):
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Speaker 4 (30:25):
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