Weekly Zeitgeist 411 (Best of 12/8/25-12/12/25)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, So,
without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We're

(00:25):
thrilled to be joined in our thirty seat by a
very funny stand up comedian, writer, actor, producer, creator of
boast Rattle, a compliment contest and Never Seen It, a
podcast where famous comedians rewrite classic movies they've never seen.
You can and should go stream his special Happiness and
you can catch his show live in La on January
nineteenth and at sketch Fest in San Francisco. Welcome back

(00:48):
to the show, the hilarious Kyle L.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you, thanks for you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Great to see you.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Great to see you, great to see you.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Great.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Nice to hear about your fender bender, affirming care that
you've been giving out. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep. He
always wants to drive, is the thing. You gotta let him.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I used to be like, God, what I would just
you know, turn the car off and like let him
send the driver's seat, you know, like basic I'm driving
the car quote unquote.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
But now he's like turned the engine on and I'm like, yo.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
No, he's realized you've been giving him an unplugged controller
this entire time.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
The equivalent has been no quarters in the arcade because
he watches me drive and he's like trying to work
the gear shift and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'm like, oh, hell no, bro, this is not this
is not how it's happening. He still doesn't know how
to turn the car on.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Luckily, I keep telling him the hazard light button is
how he turned the car on, and he's like, I
want to turn on.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I'm like, I don't know, man, I don't know ale
for that.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
Yeah, like if it would just like be famous on
the internet for driving a car two blocks to get
to the store or something.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, right, steal his parents car. So there's some
great early internet videos of like cops chasing down a
person and then.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
His parents wouldn't take him to McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Did you guys ever have like those kids who would
drive their friends cars like when they were like when
they weren't around, Like, Yo, dude, you want to take
the car out and you're like fourteen.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
There's a big trend in eighth grade in Kentucky to
steal your parents' car. Oh really, yeah, I definitely what
we did that. I did cheeky rides to like Blockbuster,
like that was like up the street. I wasn't driving
with my friend, who was like completely a wild ass kid,
was like, dude, my mom's gone, let's go to a Blockbuster.
And we're like fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
We get in the car like we were fucking twenty.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
We were fourteen wait owl by fourteen fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I mean my dad drove like a massive, long old Simobile.
I just created the car Mike erman Trout drove in
Breaking Bad and Better call Saul.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
It was the car my dad had.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
So I was afraid to drives like you're driving to
Edmund Fitzgerald down the road, like you steering us to
go around once just to get or go take a
right turn.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah yeah, you need you need that, like that trucker
on this one, we're gonna go around.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, look like the big timers. Every time I go
around a corner of the amount that I'm like doing this,
that's a reference that's getting even older. It's hard to
push the pedal in my Gator boots, you know, yeah,
thank you and the pimped out Gucci suit.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I was very scared of driving cars when I was
a kid. I was like, I had a recurring night Mamby.
I think this came from my mom. I think this
is a pretty common thing that you would just like
leave the kids in the car and like go into
the store real quick, like with the you know, crack
any radio on. I don't think back a window in town,

(03:34):
and I would have I had a recurring nightmare when
I was a kid that the car would take off
with me in it, even into you know, driving age.
I was very I was very scared.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Of There's a lot of sentient car media for kids,
so you get even the best of them half the
time turn into the bad guy, you know what I mean.
So you need to h whether you've been deceptive in
some sort of way.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Victor points out that I might have just been clairvoyant
and I might have seen the way most coming.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh that's true. Yeah. Yeah, Stephen King invented those ships
well incredibly high on cocaine.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, something's ever made more sense than everything we've learned
about him since seeing anything he wrote, right right, You've
never had to like pitch me twice on Actually, do
you know Stephen King?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
What I guessed?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I guessed he was, Yeah, oh.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, that makes sense, make sense.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
You know what they left out of the movie that
was in the books? I do and I don't. I'm
glad it's not in the movie.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
They got those people weren't on as much cocaine when
they were movies than books are.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
We all would have had seen all these things that
were in the book.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
What is something from your search history that's revealing about
who you are?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
The most recent thing I searched this morning was Jenshaw
out win and.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Genshaw out When are you going to meet her there
at the prison?

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Like when?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, you'll be leaning against a car, smoking a cigarette.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
It's very Ocean's eleven. We're going to pull a high.
Yeah no, I uh yeah, I was wondering. And it's
actually tomorrow, strangely enough, so wow, I mean hours. Yeah,
December tenth.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Today is jen Shaw Day for all who celebrate.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yes, she's ready to go.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Nice. Are you so you're a fan? I'm assuming Yes
I am.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Come on, come on, boys, No, I'm from Salt Lake City,
and I've started, for better or Worse recapping the show
for my podcast, and so it's a you know, I
have to be on top of this sort of thing,
but I followed the whole journey, and I'm just so
curious as to what this woman's life is going to
be from here on out, because she like ruined thousands

(05:56):
of people's lives and the idea of her actually not
being a I mean, she must be a psychopath. I
can't imagine her behavior has really changed, but maybe, I mean,
this could be a whole a new thing that shows
me hope and humanity.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Who knows she comes back completely reformed and just goes
into helping people around Salt Lake City? Right? What?

Speaker 6 (06:20):
What?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
What exactly did she get caught doing? Was it like
a Ponzi scheme?

Speaker 6 (06:26):
No, they were like contacting mostly senior citizens and like
telling them that they could like launch businesses and then
emptying their bank accounts. Essentially nice.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
Oh wow, Yeah, I'm on her Wikipedia page, which really
charmingly just describes us as legal issues, like.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
She got over for speed.

Speaker 7 (06:46):
Yeah, and then and then goes into wire fraud and
body laundering and connection with a telemarketing scheme which goes pretty.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Rough kind of. So this happened like as she was
joining Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, right, like she
became a star on that show, and we're were people
like kind of putting it together based on what she
was doing on that show or like was the spotlight?
Did that have anything to do with her getting caught?

Speaker 6 (07:12):
I think the spot I must have had something to
do with it, which is why I think like she
must be a true psychopath because she had been doing
this for a long time and obviously thought she was
never going to get caught. She felt like she could
be the star of a TV show and never I
mean she was dry. I mean, like the amount of
money she seemed to have never made sense with what
the job she was talking about. It was all just

(07:34):
very unclear. But I can't imagine that like law enforcement
was watching the show and then put it together, right
although that, I mean, that'd be incredible.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
I do I this little question, sorry, I saw on
the Wikipedia because the scam was like just this version
of like business coaching, like we're gonna we're gonna build
like a business website for you.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I guess it's the draining bank accounts part that's like
not so good. I'm just like all this stuff is
a scam anyway.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
It's like, yeah, what is the line between this and
every other capitalist enterprise?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Like I maybe just poisoned in that regard. I had
a Richard.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
Do you has the recent uptick in like I guess
Mormon shit in pop culture? Does that instill you with
any like hometown? Like, are these the the SLC celebs
that like you've been waiting for?

Speaker 6 (08:26):
These are the people I want representing me in my culture?

Speaker 3 (08:29):
For sure?

Speaker 6 (08:30):
No, it's it's it's been a very confusing thing for
me because especially with like The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Initially I found the show so boring because I was
just like, these are essentially women I went to high
school with. I don't understand why this is so interesting people.
But then like I got into the rhythm of it,
and I realized, oh, yeah, this must be so exotic.
It's often I'm like I feel like I immigrated from

(08:52):
another country where I'm like, the culture of Utah is
so far removed from what the majority of Americans experience. Yeah,
so I can see why. It's like people are like, what.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Are they doing?

Speaker 6 (09:03):
Why do they do any of.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
This, So it's not just like got Game, Like the
Stanley Cups like came from the like those reality shows
like that, that whole trend like came from that. So
people aren't just like pointing and laughing. People are like
it's like aspirational for people to like look at these
people's lives. And I think dirty Sprite also came from

(09:26):
there at all. All the dirty so dirty sodas probably
not the probably not the one that's.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
Not dirty, right, the only one I didn't come from there?
Actually did they get the idea from future? What if
instead of like having the promacy like the cough syrup
in there, we put a flavored cocon oaconut mill syrup.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
I mean, there is like a world where they're just like,
we can safely co opt these trends and you know,
until it gets outside of Salt Lake City basically because
like you know, people aren't supposed to know about this
other ship where we could be our own culture and
take you know, a few borrow some words whatever, who care.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Right, just kind of integrate them in. So yeah, but
I think Mormon's for I mean, at least since blogging
began weirdly Mormon women have been very influential on culture.
This bizarre because yeah, it's like it's so aspirational because
their lives at least in photos or good recipes look.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Wonder Yeah yeah, right, the castle role culture, right exactly.
Is there anything that so you grew up in Salt
Lake City? Yes, yeah, is there anything that stands out
to you that like you thought was normal and then
you like got outside of Salt Lake City and you're like, oh,
that's that's very particular to where I grew up.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
I was thinking about this recently. I was thinking about,
like all of the teachers through my public education would
in the morning would be drinking diet coke. And it
occurred to me recently like people in other states or
other cities their teachers like they probably smelled coffee in
the school or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Because oh, yeah, all my teachers smelled like coffee all
the time.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Right, and that just was I mean that maybe one
in fifty teachers might have had coffee, but I can't
remember any of them. So you would see a can
of diet coke at seven thirty in the morning.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to my first job out
of college after being a pool boy, was at ABC
News and I worked on the same floor as Diane
Sawyer and she would house diet coke like she you know,
she was up for Good Morning America, like four in
the morning. She would go through like a six pack
by the time, like I was walking into the office.

(11:40):
It was fucking crazy.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
So she was just peeing all the time. It just
was so radition.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Doesn't that seem terrible? Doesn't that seem like a terrible
way to get your caffeine? Kim, What is something you
think is underrated?

Speaker 9 (11:54):
Indoor malls?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Indoor?

Speaker 10 (11:56):
Oh my god, I do love an indoor mall.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
I just had a day date last week and I
haven't been in a mall in forever, and we were
just walking around and it was lovely. We didn't buy
anything and it was just fun to window shop. We
got like little polaroid pictures in the booths and had
some cinnapun called it a day.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
I love that.

Speaker 10 (12:21):
I do love an indoor mall. I also love like
like Little Tokyo's and stuff will have like indoor malls
where it's like all these fun like Japanese shops and
Little Tokyo, Little Chris Ruth's saying.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Little.

Speaker 10 (12:44):
Yeah, they're very cute and it's nice to be protected
from the elements.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
Yeah, it really is. Well, like where I live, it's
fucking freezing now, So to have somewhere that's warm and
can just, I don't know, rack up some steps, that's
great and.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Where do you give us exact address? The the indoor
mall was such. I don't think people fully appreciate how
pervasive and important the indoor mall culture was in the nineties.
Like it was all there.

Speaker 10 (13:20):
It was a big fucking deal where all the kids
hung out.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
That's all you do years old.

Speaker 9 (13:27):
Yeah, my birthday gift was to get a limo to
go to the mall.

Speaker 10 (13:31):
That fuck no I do that for my birthday Except
for the limo. We had to go to my mom's van.
But like, I didn't get any gifts. The gift was
the limo. But I felt fancy.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
But you put an unplugged phone in the back so
you would feel fancy. Like it was.

Speaker 10 (13:47):
We had the best ginger ale. We would go like
when I was in dance, we would have like competitions,
or we'd have like a matinee show and then an
evening show for like sleeping beauty or whatever, and in
between we'd go to the mall and try on prom dresses.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, Like that's why there was a hot topic.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
You know, we're talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger Icons episode about
how many of his movie, like his iconic scenes take
place in malls.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Like that.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It was he was he only made sense in the
eighties and nineties, like really, and he made so much.
He was like such a product of that moment that
people were like, could I see him like kill someone
in the mall? Maybe? Could I get that in a mall?

Speaker 10 (14:30):
That's like the nostalgia of Stranger Things. One of their
most epic scenes from previous seasons was in the mall.

Speaker 9 (14:36):
Like in like the ice Cream Shop or even The
Last of Us.

Speaker 10 (14:41):
Like anytime there's like a horror movie and it goes
back to a mall, it.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Feels like it's fun.

Speaker 10 (14:46):
Yeah, it makes you feel like a kid running from something.

Speaker 9 (14:49):
M It was dead as fuck. It was also true.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You can go in there and be the only person
in the mall like sometimes it's widow.

Speaker 10 (14:59):
It used to be different.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
There's a place in Los Angeles called the Beverly Center
that is a massive, massive indoor mall that is almost
it's almost like a fucking escape room. Like there's like
you go, you get in an elevator from the parking garage. Yeah,
it doesn't make sense to go.

Speaker 10 (15:17):
Through three levels of Best Buy.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, exactly. It's so strange, but it was. I think
it's in clueless. It's like the hot place to go
and clueless. It's the indoor mall that they go to
and clueless. It was like the coolest thing. And then
the Grove came along and was like outdoor mall and
everyone was like, we're never going back to indoor malls

(15:39):
ever again. And you go in there it is haunted.
It is completely empty. And the indoor malls, no, it's wild.

Speaker 10 (15:46):
That happened in every city, like in Utah when the
Olympics came through, they had the Gateway Mall, which was
like the outdoor mall. That was like the new cool mall.
And then like the freaking water coming up that kids
run through became a thing at every outdoor mall, right,
like there was. It was definitely the rise and fall
of indoor malls like during our childhood, and then the
outdoor mall and now everybody's just on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, and now nobody goes to either of them.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
I lived right by the Irvine Spectrum and it was
a fucking nightmare every time. Parking was always miserable. There's
people running around, and then you know you have to
deal with the weather. So the indoor mall.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
It was so refreshing.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (16:25):
Yeah, outdoor malls, I feel like I have to walk
further for some reason. Yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Minnesota mastered the indoor mall arts indoor.

Speaker 10 (16:37):
Everything cold places.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
That is kind of a cool place where you just like,
They're like, we made our entire downtown have an indoor
mall running through, like from building to building, you just
walk through a mall.

Speaker 10 (16:50):
They do that in like Pittsburgh too, Like when I
went to I went to Carnegie Mellon and they would
connect the like sometimes you would never have to go
outside to go from class to class. But Minnesota, the
Minneapolis Mall has a freaking amusement.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Park in it.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
That's great, so cool, the Great America Mall.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, Okay, Matt, what is something you think is underrated?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Underrated? I would have to say, listen this, I don't
know this person actually is underrated, but he was recently
in the news as being bad at acting, and I disagree.
Paul Dano, Oh, come on, Paul Dano is underrated by
Quentin Tarantino, very specifically, and I that.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Is the implication of these questions. What is underrated and
overrated by Quentin tarantine?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Right? What does Quin Tarantino want for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
And it's I don't know, uh, feet picks.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Probably yeah, he picks. Yeah, Paul, before you hey, Quintin,
and before you fits finished saying what do you want
for he respond feet picks.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
He hates Paul Dano, his awful feet.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
You wouldn't show I bet you he didn't show them hogs.
I bet he was just like, I'm not gonna do it.
And he's like, come on, man, you know, just his
weird fucking bullshit. Yeah. No, but Paul Dano is like, uh,
even even with the like outpouring of support for him
after Quentin Tarantino trashed him for no reason, I was
still there was part of me that was like, no,

(18:24):
but seriously, he is probably I mean, since the death
of Philip Seymour Hoffman, he's probably like the best actor
in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
WHOA, So you're a real I'm a big.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Old dan ohead dude, he's He's so good, even in
his bit role in The Sopranos where he just played
AJ's weird friend Rush. Yeah he was AJ's weird friend.
I forget they were like, yeah, I forget what they're
even talking about. But I was just like, yeah, that
kid's weird. I gotta follow his career. So yeah, Paul

(18:57):
Dano's my god.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Freaking me out. Yeah, yeah, Dano's good. Quentin Tarantino has
lost his marbles there, I said it, Yeah, I'm going,
I'm going there has lost his marbles a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Absolutely, what if I defended of like we've all had
a mic shoved in our face and said dump stuff. Okay,
we've all had that happen, so who knows if if
you could do it again, I bet he would take
it back.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'm sure he would.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, I'm sure he would.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, I do. I do need Paul Dano. I like
him as an actor as well. I need him to
come out and give us the backstory, because either way,
it's fascinating. If there is like something that he said
no to that Quentin Tarantino wanted him in, that's great.
If he like, is there something that happened behind the scenes,

(19:45):
or if it's like completely out of the blue. Also
very interesting, Yeah, hilarious. It's just get in there, Dano,
get there, get your hands dirty a little bit.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah. We need we really do need to know what
the backstory is behind that, because it's such a random
person to hate, especially someone who is so clearly a
good actor, Like objectively to you know, what's.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Your favorite Dano, you know, being the weird friend and Sprentice.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I mean, I mean, other than There Will Be Blood,
the most obvious dan O movie. Honestly, I think Love
and Mercy. His portrayal of young Brian Wilson is like, okay,
that that, to me is might be the best biopic
out there, like music biopick and uh, it's so funny

(20:33):
that like fucking what's what's the name of the guy
who played No, no, no, the guy who who.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Play they play Brian Wilson.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Hilarious. He's just like, I'm doing it. No, he'd love it,
he he, he will love it.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
This is what Brian would want it.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
It's like Brian was still alive at that point too,
but he's still talking about him as if he's dead. Yeah,
you know, the guy who played Freddie Mercury and Bohemian Rhapsody, you.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Know, yeah, Rommy Malick Maleck.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, like the fact that he, you know, won Best
Actor for that. There's so many music biopicks that have
like Best Actor oscars for you know, the lead, and
that is this is the only one that I think
has deserved. Paul Dano playing young Brian Wilson. He did
it so perfectly. It was.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
My theory on that is that Hollywood can be fooled
every time with a set of fake teeth. Yeah, tooth
acting is is real, and you put some fake teeth
and they're like, whoa, He's like a different persons. The
same thing as like my kids putting on like Dracula

(21:51):
teeth on Halloween and like looking at the mirror and
being like, oh my god, I look like a real
vamis cool tooth acting, man. Yeah, they should just create
a set break category for best tooth actings. It stops
being the hack to win.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Right, best prosthetic that fooled me?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, fucking whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
There's a separate hall of fame for it. With baseball
and performance enhancing drugs, It's just like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
It works on me too. I'm just saying that, like you,
we shouldn't punish people who are playing characters who have
fine teeth.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Right, yeah, exactly what could you do?

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Brun it? Yeah? What?

Speaker 9 (22:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
What's something that you think is overrated?

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Bear upy don't need it? Stop telling people to go
to it, people don't. You know. Look, I understand that
everyone is in this like wellness like you know, like thing. Now.
It's like this era of like, oh, I go to
therapy and I work on my problems. You know, fine,

(22:57):
good for you. But some of us are out here
crushing it, but by just like just putting you know,
like taking those problems and just putting them down deep
deep inside and letting it, you know, stew marinate for
a bit. And I'm one of them. Like I had

(23:18):
not needed therapy, you know, for years, I've not.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Needed it with baby shit.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
That is baby shit. And I have a baby now
and now I'm like, oh, good, now I have someone
to talk to.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, my kid is my therapy. That's healthy.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I taught her one phrase, how do you feel about that?
And I have her say that over and over as
I'm talking about my sexual dysfunction.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
We're learning about each other.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I remember reading a story about how someone tried to
bullshit you once, Matt, and they wound up in the
fucking hospital.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh yeah remember, Oh yeah, that happens a lot. I
have a pretty amazing bullshit detect. It's sort of a
rubber glue type thing. Nice or you try to bullshit me,
whatever you bullshit bounce off means sticks to you and
then you go to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah, it does. Sometimes something people do confuse you with
a brown noser because your bullshit detector is like, you
need to get right up on the bullshit.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
You're not brown nosing. I don't brown detecting.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Bullshit right exactly. Yeah. In fact, that's why I don't
like therapy because every time I went when I I
used to go to therapy, and after a while I
was like, first of all, why are you so obsessed
with me? I would say, that's my therapist. Yeah yeah,
and I'd be like, you should be paying me, right,
And you.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Know this is good, So listener, this is good advice
and you should definitely listen to maut on this. It
sounds like people.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Think that they're all their problems will be solved with therapy.
Maybe maybe not. I'm built different.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
My friends are solved by grinding.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
You know what I do. I grind, I cry, I
rise and grind, I cry and grind. And you just
kind of you just have to like let your feelings,
you know, like like go deep down. You have to
push them there, you push them deep to the wire,
way down in the hole. Yeah. Yeah, watch them TV

(25:21):
talk about Paul Dano for a bit.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Fucking problems are over.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Find out what you want for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
And if you do go to therapy. Here's a I
would never but go ahead, no, no, And this is
for the audience, not you, just for the whole audien
because I don't need it. You don't need it at all.
And if someone tricks you, if someone gets their claws
in you and makes you go to therapy, there's a
fun phrase to use. And you say we're at time,
when I fucking say we're at time. Yeah, I find
that's very helpful. Yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
That's how you teach them to respect you.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, exactly. You go and there and you punch the clocks.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
That's right. You punch the biggest clock in the room,
and that's right.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, first night, get their name wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I guess we get another You know. I did have
a therapist who mispronounced my name for a full month. Yeah,
and had he thought I said Nat Nat, and he
kept he kept calling me Nat.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Like King Cole.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, like King Cole. And I didn't correct him, you know,
because eventually I was like, well, I haven't yet paid
him the check. So I gave him the check for
the month. And I was like, well, surely he'll read
my name on the check. I really wanted to avoid that.
And then he and then on the next session he
called me Nat again, and I was like, I'm sorry,

(26:39):
we have to stop. Yeah, my name is Matt. And
he said why didn't you tell me? And I was like,
I don't know, because I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Because I have avoidant shouldn't you know that?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Why am I here?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Right?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
That's why I don't need.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Therapy I have. There are certain people in my life who,
just from when I as a kid, refuse to believe
that my name is not Zach. And they will continuously after,
you know, be like just they wanted to fault to Zach.
You know that kind of where I have come off
as a Zach. You do come off as a Zach.

(27:15):
I never thought about it that way, But you are
Zach O'Brien. Fuck uh, we found another one.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
You're wrong.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm the wrong.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Your dad's wrong, your mom's wrong, everybody wrong.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Now that my parents are both zach people, they.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Wanted to it's on your birth certificate.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, so who's calling you Jack? Actually, now that I'm thinking,
is it just you?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, it's me and the intro to this show.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
That's it. It's like a stage name.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's a it's a character Miles created, it's a share name.
Let's take a quick break. We'll be back to talk
about times person of the Air.

Speaker 11 (27:55):
Don't don't, don't don't, and we're back, and how much
you guys up on Katie Miller?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Katie Miller.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Interestingly, I was not aware that she was Stephen Miller's wife.
I didn't know he oh had ever had any relationship
with another human being.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
So it seems strange doesn't.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Have children, Like, yeah, you can't imagine that man reproducing.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
It's it's very weird sexually, I assume like a sort
of a budding process or like.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
Like coming in like regurgitating another version of his mouth.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
Yeah, that is very vivid to me, but every other
version of human reproduction not.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, absolutely, There's there's a wild clip where like his
wife went on the Jesse Waters Show, and Jesse Waters
is like, you know, doing.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
A post of waters World, all Conter's world.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
He's doing like a poor man version of Don Draper,
like he watched mad Men and was like, this, this
is it. This is what I'm doing for the rest
of my life. And he has her on and he
called He's like, and you're of course married to the
sexual matador, and oh, we don't know what that meant.
But they both started laughing so hard that it was like, wait,

(29:23):
what she thinks, right, She's like.

Speaker 12 (29:26):
Oh well, or it's like a maga inside joke, I guess,
But it also seemed like they were fucking Like was
what was the impression that, yeah, that she and Jesse were,
because like they.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Had like a very warm energy as they talked about
her husband being a sexual matador, which feels like feels
like it could be an inside joke between people like yeah,
people who are cheating on their spouse being like, yeah,
every time you try to have sex with him, he's
like out of and then they laughed way too hard

(30:00):
about that. But yeah, so she has started a shitty
podcast where she just like shows off complete lack of
conversation skills. She's made some really memorable appearances on debate
shows where she's so easily frazzled it feels like she's
engaging in self harm by even like appearing on the panel.

(30:20):
Like there's one where like the person just like won
an argument with her and rather than just like, you know,
you don't it's not like they were like winner or
anything like that, you just move on to the next thing.
But instead she just started screaming that she was gonna
have them deported. She was like, you better get your
papers in line. It was like, really, she just went

(30:40):
full villain movie villain, Like right away.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
What's the content of her podcast?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, it's just her talking to people about how the Yeah,
they say something like nice but not quite nice enough,
and she's like, you better get your fucking papers in order.
Called you better get your fucking papers in order. With
Petie Miller, ever, guess it is just dragged to ice scream.

(31:12):
But she's also done a really good job of pretending
that her family is a victim of I guess like anything.
So when people in their Arlington neighborhood were like, get
this human trash the fuck out of here, kind of
like not really, they protested in the most gentle way
that somebody could protest, while you know, saying the truth.

(31:32):
They wrote, Miller is praying on families. Not not like
on their house. They wrote it on the sidewalk of
their street in really nice, like light colored chalk, Like
it was like a nice blue and then like it's
like very Easter egg colors.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I mean it is.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
It is kids chalk. It is the only sidewalk chalk
that really there is. Right, Yes, I don't have kids,
but it feels like it's always got.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
That's that or white chalk.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
You know they don't have like dark jewel tone.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Shock.

Speaker 7 (32:07):
Yeah, and you know the Millers really like white chalk.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Oh there's something about it.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I just yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
But she so she responded to that by saying people
were making terroristic threats to her and doxing her, and
it got so bad that they had to list their
nearly four million dollar mansion, which like, when you think
about that, that sucks, you guys, and like we're all
we're all for pushing back against fascism on this show.
But like when you have to list your four million

(32:37):
dollar mansion, can't be uncomfortable.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
I've been through it so many times.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I knows they have to buy now for their new mansion.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
But we got the police report about the protests and
the analysis by the police, who again don't they're not
fully against overdoing it to protect people who live in
four million dollars at the homes. That's kind of the
police thing. But this Arlington police report kind of undermines

(33:08):
her characterization of the protests. They said the messages were
non threatening and alluded to political issues such as immigration,
transgender rights, DEI, and white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Sollington County Police, welcome to the resistance.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
That's right. A cab for the next twenty minutes no
longer includes you. Yeah, so that's that's just a quick
check in with them.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
We do like to do the saddest, weakest people. These
people also are like white people are the supreme. The
master race is really struggling, I guess is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
It's hard, Andrew, We're having a hard time.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
Okay, we have to find neighborhoods without sidewalks, that's very difficult.

Speaker 7 (33:56):
Do you think does the handwriting in this I guess
this is a podcast, but the handwriting in this in
the still from the from Katie Miller is like so neat.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, it has that kind of like she true it herself.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Right, like the black rule from the Black Lives Matter
protest that was clearly written by a Trump supporter. Yeah,
or the woman who I just think they would have
gone more over the top if they had done it
the right of the writing. There's that young woman from
New Jersey who recently got caught claiming that she had

(34:31):
been like zip tied and like had Trump whore carved
into her back, I think. And then it was revealed
her her case fell apart when it was revealed that
her accomplice, who had like found her and taken the
pictures of her to share with police, had recently googled
where to find zip ties okay, and then that she

(34:57):
had recently googled scarification an expert.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
So scarification experts.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Do the cuts.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
For actually doing it. I mean, there was the girl
that did the had the backwards b on her face
for Barack and like a fake black eye. I'm saying
at least at least they're making person Yeah, they're making progress. Yeah,
all right, are you guys Vegas.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
People at all?

Speaker 3 (35:25):
You ever go to Vegas?

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I mean there is literally there is literally the the
like the.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
Like highway like exit I guess, or the split on
the way going to Vegas. I just literally like Vegas
or Salt Lake City like you could make.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
In America.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I'll just say yes.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
And everyone who's listening to this podcast with me on
before it probably already knows that.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, so I was there.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Recently, there's a new Slate art about the somewhat of
a vibe shift happening in Vegas, where a lot of
the stuff, like they they interview a lot of people
in Las Vegas who are like, used to get a
steak this thick for six dollars and now like those
days are all gone and the numbers are not promising.

(36:18):
The hotel occupancy has cratered, flights to Vegas have cratered.
Nobody from Canada, like Canada used to be a large
portion of the tourism in Vegas.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
They're surprising to me that don't seem like Vegas people.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, oh, there's there's plenty of garbage.

Speaker 7 (36:40):
I will say, I was at a poker table with
someone from Montreal and it reminded me that some of
them really are Vegas people.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, you just find that it's just because you haven't
been to Vegas, so you haven't met the Vegas too much.
You're just not okay that that's where the no absolutely
not come from. There's even an air carrier that like
used to fly low cost flights from Edmonton, and like

(37:11):
other Canadian locations, they've had a sixty percent drop off
in people flying to lot Vegas. So there's like some
very straightforward explanations for this. Tourisms down nationwide, it's just
not as much down as Vegas is. But there's also
something that's been happening over the past couple decades that

(37:31):
is endemic to America, which is that they were taken
over by private equity. They've been taken over by private
equity companies, and the private equity companies are just finding
any way that they can to like leed people drive,
so like all of those like free giveaways and things
like that, where the idea is like get people here

(37:53):
and then you know the gamblers will pay for it.
And amazingly, like as tourism has cratered umbling profits have
gone way up, like, which, yeah, it's the exact story
of the pandemic. Like, so what they did is they
during the pandemic, not as many people were coming, so
they changed the rules of a bunch of the games,

(38:15):
Like Blackjack no longer pays out at like one point five.
Now it pays out at like six to five. So
they've like five yeah, and and we let your notes here.
I have a bit on the not a bit. I
have something to say about your litte sorry, you go ahead. Well,
Roulette is used to be like one of the better
deals that you could get, like essentially, if you hit,

(38:38):
they would pay you out for like as you know
about the right odds. The only thing that keeps it
from being completely even odds are the green zeros that
they the zero and the double zero. First it was
just one zero, and then they were like, guys, I
got a fucking crazy idea a second zero, and during
the pandemic they had another brain storm. They're like triple zeros.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I'm just saying, so they just keep adding triple zeros are.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Like illegal in Europe, Like if you're a casino operator,
eat double zeros.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Frowned upon triple zero is like fully illegal.

Speaker 7 (39:14):
Yeah, like it is such a juicing of the oddsite
towards the house that is like truly disgusting.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
But yeah, so they do all these things to make
gambling more like worse for people, more expensive, and then
they do it during the pandemic to be like we
got it, we got to stay afloat, and then they
just never take it away and it's like all of
the yeah, that's everything exactly, that's everything, like and even

(39:41):
during the pandemic, like all these companies that were supposedly
like struggling to stay afloat or reporting record profits as
just like how are they getting away with this?

Speaker 7 (39:52):
Part of it is that gambling is a thing that
you can become physically addicted.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
To, oh right, addicted to, but.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
Like changing the odds, like you might lose some people,
but you hit the floor of the whales and addicts
and they will just pay it whatever odds.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah forever.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's really really really sad and gross.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
I don't know what we call inelastic demand, which is
what private equity goes around looking for and they just
find anything they can it. Really it feels like like
we talked about this when they first started doing it
during the pandemic that everything started feeling like airport prices.
You know, like before you would like go into an
airport and you'd be like, why is this bottle of

(40:39):
water seven dollars? Like that's crazy, but like you know,
it's because they have you captive, and like you can't
go anywhere else to get a bottle of water. And
now it's just like the whole capitalist like ecosystem is
just like, yeah, you can't go anywhere. We're we're doing
this just everywhere. It's just airport prices all the way down.

(41:01):
You know.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
The thing I've noticed is charging for sauce. Have you
noticed now if there's a sauce, you have to pay
for the sauce. It's ridiculous. Sauce should always be free.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, free sauce makes it's helping you sell more food.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
Yes, I'll buy more of your food if I can
dip it in something right.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Oh god, yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
The vaga thing is like, I mean, the thing is,
it's like, as someone who isn't even particularly a believer
in capitalism, I don't I truly don't understand why no
casino owner has just been like, hey, we're just gonna
zag when everyone else is zigging and just charge less

(41:47):
for this shit that we already will definitely still be
making a profit on. It's really weird to not just
be like, hey, this is the casino that you can
afford to bring your family likes well, I mean yeah
or whatever, or or you the person who might not
be in the one percent. We you there's a market

(42:08):
for you, come to this casino.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
The only really fun night I've had in Vegas was
that there was a casino that had like a burger
King in it, and that I think that was it.
It wasn't like like.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
There were no you were in a burger king.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, in a burger king with slot machines. No, it
had a irish theme. There were people like little people
walking around with like Leprechaun costume, and it was like
the lowest limit, like you could play craps and like
not lose all your money within thirty minutes, and like
that's where I like learned to play craps, Like you

(42:45):
could play the whole night. And it was just I
think it was in the basement of like a real
casino and there's like, no, let's rent it out to them,
and they just everything has gone the other direction now,
like all the blackjack tables are fifty dollars minimums, and yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 7 (43:01):
It is the story of like maybe this is just
a starker example of how private equity works, but like
they literally have no regard for the future, like even that, right,
this is a predatory industry, but let's imagine it sort
of wasn't, Like what the way you keep this industry
alive is by introducing young people to the fun of gambling, right,

(43:25):
And again, realize that I'm saying this, this is insane
and maybe this is just better in general.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
But yeah, they're like pruning their next market away.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
From drive it off a cliff, but then find another
thing to drive off a cliff.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah that's exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
So anyways, I mean there were things to be driven
off a cliff. I guess there's plenty of many many.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I know.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
It's interesting. It's this thing that, by nature is like
to bleed people dry. And they're like, this is not
bleeding people dry enough. How do we keep right exactly,
just leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
It was so profitable we remove the friction of the
blood leaving their body. It's a little slow for my
tab exactly. Yeah, yeah, I mean this is what they've
done to like veterinary care, Like the veterinary care industry
over the past two decades has been taken over by
private equity, and they were like, man, these fucking people

(44:17):
will pay anything their pets, and so now they I
just had this happen. Yeah, everybody is having this happen now.

Speaker 7 (44:26):
Got the same procedure basically a year apart, and it
was six times more expensive.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
The second time. It was fucking crazy pants.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
My friend was just banned from her VET because they
were charging so much that she got in a fight
with them.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah, like they're there. They need bouncers
at you know, vets now. But yeah, so like things
like we had a superroducer anajos Na, and yesterday talking
about this she was just there for like an f
She was there during an F one event. So like
that's there's still like chasing the high end of things,

(45:02):
you know. But then things like the thunder Down under
Dance Review, the Australian centric like Chippendale's is going away,
you know, that's the record.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
Magic Mike is a superior. That's exactly what she said.
She was like, it's not it's not the worst thing
in the world, but everything that is like kind of
shitty and like feels like you're in Vegas is going away.
Like the free drinks like you can get you can
maybe flag down a waitress for a free drink over

(45:33):
the course of a night, like at the hotel, they're
at the casino. It's it's really like, yeah, I guess,
like so clearly like we just want your money right
now in a.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Way that it already was like that, but it's just more.

Speaker 6 (45:52):
This is kind of the ultimate version of private equity
taking something over because it is like the whole formula
was already set up.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah yeah, tough, yeah yeah. So gambling revenue is up,
everything else is way down and that's it. There's also
this paragraph in there where you see how this is
being described by the people in Vegas, like who make
the decisions and have money. Oliver Levat. This is a
Slate article link off two via the Wayback Machine. Oliver

(46:22):
Levat a real estate consultant at the Dnston Group. Denstone Group,
by the way, black Rock is one of the private
equity companies that is like fully taken from who serves
as an advisor to several Vegas casino properties said, I
needed to understand that cheaper games are no longer economically
prudent in the city. Between inflation what's causing that upkeep

(46:43):
and the real villain here labor costs, including a Nevada
minimum wage that jumped to twelve dollars last year. Lovette
argued the salad days of low minimum blackjack have been
legislated out of the fray. After all, it is telling
that no matter how much Vegas tourism declines, the city's
gambling revenue continues to tick up. That's not an after all,

(47:06):
that's a counter to everything that guy just said. Everything
is like they're still making more and more money and
you're complaining about like having to pay people a living weight.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
But also to these fucking business geniuses, it's like, you
need low cost blackjack players so that they become high
like limits blackjack players.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
How are you not start that way?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Right?

Speaker 7 (47:33):
Yeah, it's really really really, I mean like like all
places that privately like they literally have just like goldfish level,
these alleged business geniuses cannot see beyond like a one
year horizon, It's right, and that is why.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, like it's the explanation for like, why we don't
have toy stories in America anymore. It's like they they
took over toys r US and they have no future.
They have no like sense the future. All they're doing
is extracting as much wealth from the thing as possible
and then like discarding it and they still do great,
and you know it doesn't like the system set ups

(48:12):
where there's like no disincentive for them to do that,
and so everything's just getting worse except for the yacht
sales for people who work in private equity. Let's take
a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about Liam
Neeson and Pam Anderson and pooping at work.

Speaker 13 (48:28):
We'll be right back, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
And we wanted to check them a timpoole because Tim's
a friend. Okay, we might not agree on everything, but
you know, again being a surgically attached to his head,
very famous podcast.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Everyone knows, everyone loves him.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Everybody knows him. Everybody's like his podcast is so popular,
except we can't prove that anyone listens to it.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Well, clearly someone must listen to it, yeah at the Kremlin. Yeah,
because he's so good and he's working, and someone at
the Kremlin has given him a one hundred thousand dollars
a week.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Was that his I think that was I think that's
what he was getting. So he he has it was
revealed I think this year that he was being funded
by the Kremlin, by Russia. He has just come out
and said he may have to put the tools down
boys because of all the costs associated with his safety.

(49:43):
There was a point last year or like you know,
around the time that the Kremlin hit came out, where
he's like this, this podcasting shit is just too expensive, dude.
It's like, I have to pay this guy. I have
to pay that guy. I got it. It's fucking crazy.
And I can report from the inside.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Yeah, everyone report, uh the costs of podcasts.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
For entry, especially your podcast. I mean you don't have
anybody making you. I mean we have, you know, super
producer Justin Brian the editor making us look good. Nobody's
making you look good. So you're just without there Jack.
But he's not.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You, Blake, he's a guest. No, I'm sticking up for Matt.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
Oh oh no, not me, Justin no edits on it. No,
I'm talking about Tim poole Man. Tim Poole's got nobody making.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Him look good, and I look good naturally, so I
knew he wasn't talking.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's what I thought. Okay, sorry, keeping
hit that end.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
That the whole show on a loop. But he has
said that he's, in addition to the very high cost
of making a podcast where you know, I guess there's
no hair, might make a budget because he has a
fun and beanion always everywhere, but you know, he he
does have to turn those cameras off, press some buttons.

(51:07):
He said he's had to hire round the clock security
because people want to kill him, and the costs are
now exceeding revenue. So again he was already claiming before
that the costs are too much. Now he's claiming that
the costs are too much because everyone trying to kill him.
And he did report that people were shooting his house.

(51:28):
Now the police got wind of that, they were like, wait,
what there was a fucking shooting at your house? Man, Like,
that's that's really a big deal to us house slaughter. Yeah,
you're you're a you're a white guy. Uh, this is
big news to us property. We're gonna cut yeah, yeah, exactly.
And so they looked into it and according to the police,

(51:52):
reports of shots fired at this residence cannot be substantiated
at this time. According to Burke County Sheriff's office, is
he in Berkeley, California this whole time?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
It's Berkeley, Siberia.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I actually have no idea where this is. They also
added that Pool has refused to release security footage recording
recorded the night of the alleged shooting. Why you don't
want to see that, man, It's actually it's too scary.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I don't want scary German shepherds he hired for security
got hit right, Oh.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
My god, I love it. Like the the best way
to like do a pledge drive if you were a
right wing like grifter podcaster, is you know, this is
equivalent to turning on NPR and hearing you know, the
waight weight don't tell me guy to like pitch in
and then get a tote bag with all of them.

(52:51):
Though it's like they're.

Speaker 14 (52:53):
Trying to kill me for talent, and Pierre should try that.
They really should, like they're trying to murder us.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Yeah, he uh. It is possible that because the DOJ
exposed that he was basically a Russian sock puppet in
this past year they were bankrolling his entire podcast operation.
And maybe because that exposure caused the Kremlin money hoes
to turn off that that is why he has an

(53:24):
unrealistic expectation of like what it costs to run a podcast.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Yeah, clearly no, or.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
You know that he's just scared and he had to
hire I hired the entire Seal Team six to protect
my home, all six of them to protect my fucking
podcast operation.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Yeah. I mean the the funniest thing is Timothy Poole
expecting us to believe that he's on anyone's radar, you
know what I mean, Like, come on, yeah, Nolan, try
and kill you. Nobody cares this, No one cares this
is this is not uh you know, there's just there's

(54:07):
no way it's real because nobody knows who you are. Like,
he lost relevance a long time ago. He's a lot
of though.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yes, yeah, yeah, he just yeah, I mean Russia. Maybe
maybe that is why he's scared. He was getting a
paycheck directly from from the Kremlin. Ye, yes, that would
be bad.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's actually a good point. Maybe he is
scared of the Russians, That's right, that'd be sick. So
scared that he won't show you the footage of them
shooting his house. All right, uh, And finally there there's
a new trendy answer to what's your favorite Christmas movie?
And it is eyes wide shut? Are you guys? I
heard shut heads? Certainly, not ahead, but I heard shut ins.

(54:49):
I did hear vaguely. Had someone explain this and I
already forgot the explanation, I guess because it happens during Christmas.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Happens during Chris this there's a lot of atmospheric lighting.
I have a thing that I bring up so much
on this show that Miles uh literally rolls his eyes
and starts making the jack off hand motion every time
I do. But that the holiday season based on when
the most common birthdays are of the year. The holiday
seasons are humanities mating season. So it's a hornier part

(55:22):
of the year than people give it credit for. And
this would be one movie that actually, you know, puts
the X in X mess. Do you guys know what
I mean by that? You know what I mean by
I think Blake? Blake just got a real horny smile
on his.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
So I that's no, it's interest because December is when
I fucking a mask because it's so cold. My eyes
get so cold. I have to warm my eyes with
the mask. So this does.

Speaker 13 (55:52):
This does check out.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's one of those I maasks, one of those like
sleep mass.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
It is want to see, I don't want to see?

Speaker 2 (56:02):
What is this a drawer? I can't say anything.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I guess a GIF mask would be a good one
because gime masks don't have eyes, right, but they're so
unless they earn them.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yeah you know, yeah you got.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Those give eyes away.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yeah everyone got a meritocracy.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
But yeah, it does happen at Christmas. There's a Christmas
party that they're at that like kind of kicks the
whole thing off when he runs into his old friend
and saves the woman from the o D and meets
the person who I mean he knows this doctor guy,
but the doctor guy who's played by what's that director's name?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Who uh now, Sidney pol director building.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
The guy who's played by Sidney Pollock is people think
is like an Epstein figure. The first time we see
him his Christmas party, he he comes in to save
a woman for an OD and Sydney Pollock's character is
pulling up his pants as the woman has like already, Odd, I.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Really need to see this movie again. It's I don't
remember that. Like I'm trying to think of what I
remember from that movie. I remember a lot of walking outside.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yes, he does do a lot of wandering around like
he's in a dream.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
The novel it's based on, I think, is like called
something to that effect that it like and the whole
thing feels like it's like walking outside, like it's in
a dream of The book does have.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
The book at the end of the I think more
books need to have the book on it.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
It's hard to tell, but but people think a lot
of people are saying that it's especially relevant this year
because of the Epstein case and specifically that Kubrick. Have
you guys seen The Room, the documentary of all the

(58:00):
conspiracy theories in the Shine, like all the theories around
what the shining means?

Speaker 3 (58:05):
No, tell me about it.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
There's it's good we're not here. Some that's like it's
about colonialism. There's one that's about it's about how Kubrick
helped fake the moon landing.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
But there's like great evidence for all of them. There's
just like so much shit in a Kubrick movie that
you can like support anything, but this one is explicitly
about like a dark, rich sex cult, you know, right.
This Hollywood Reporter article on this says, well Kubrick captures
it is a world where someone like Jeffrey Epstein becomes

(58:41):
almost inevitable a dark a dark nexus of money, secrecy, impunity,
and male sexual desire warped by institutional power.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
It's so funny because the movie is so much more
boring than that. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah, it is like it has it has like wild
shit happening in it, and the vibe is like very
much like what why is this so sleepy?

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Yeah? Like why am I watching an orgy? It is
kind of crazy. I also have a like a general
distaste for movies that are like, We're a sexy fucking
orgy movie, and I'm like, I've seem poorn. I want
to watch Dick's Go In and then and then show that.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Just to see it in a crowded theater.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
You yelled at, yeah, I yell at Yeah. My whole
family are like, I want to see dis go in
during this Christmas movie. It's just bullshit. So yeah, I
remember being like very bored by it, but maybe it's
better than I Maybe I saw it at a weirder
time in my life. Yeah, now that I'm not going
to therapy anymore, I should probably check it out again.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
It's gonna fuck you up, yeah, tear through you. But
yeah there. I mean, there's always widespread conspiracy theories about
Kubrick movies, but about this one, people are really saying
like this was explicitly about Epstein and he was killed
as a result. Because it was made in ninety nine.
Epstein's operation started in the mid nineties. There's a twenty

(01:00:08):
twenty four clip of the co writer of pulp fiction,
Roger Avery, on Joe Rogan's podcast So He's a Cool Guy,
where he implies that Kubrick's death was suspicious and explains
that the original ending was supposed to make it clear
that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kimmen were going to hand
their daughter over to the pedo cult. As he calls it,

(01:00:30):
There is weird shit in that last scene, Like the
movie ends with them walking around a toy store like
being like, so what do we learn here? How do
we save our marriage? And it ends with Nicole Kimman
being like, I guess we have to fuck in the
toy store. But there are like people have pointed out,
there's like weird like people in the background walking around

(01:00:52):
like making furtive like looks at them and like their kid.
And people have like vated that like the cult has
not like in fact, let him get away and then
something's gonna happen with his kid, like at the end,
after the end of the movie. But yeah, apparently this
has become an obsession with gen Z. They're on board.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I mean, good for them, you know. I like when
they get excited about a movie. You know, yeah, me too.
It's like, I'm here for it. That's fun. That's a
fun thing to get excited about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
They might be a little too excited. There's they've linked
the theory, or one of the theories links the kidnapping
of Madeline McCann and the supposed kidnapping of the daughter
that actually doesn't happen in the movie, but it's just
a thing that the co writer of Pulp Fiction said
was supposed to happen to the movie. The one problem

(01:01:47):
with that is that Madeleine McCann wasn't even born until
nineteen ninety nine, so he would have had to like
really have like some pretty some pretty incredible planning.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Yeah, it's yeah, and I don't I don't think I
even know this story.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, oh Madeline McCann's story.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yeah, I don't know, Madeline McCann.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
You don't you don't know. I can't just say that reference.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
No, it's a weird berg situation.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
Who is who is? I have no idea, all right,
I just thought you guys would know. But it's it's
just them being like this future crime. It's connected and
like the victim was not born when the movie came
like wrapped small detail, one detail that like these online
conspiracy theories, for me, I always like, Okay, that's bullshit.

(01:02:35):
This seems like bullshit. And then there's like one detail
where you're like, wait a second. So Reddit theorists have
pointed out that Larry Salona, the journalist who broke the
story of Epstein's death and Maxwell's arrest, is actually name
checked in Eyes Wide Shut. His name is the byline
of an article about the death of the woman that
Tom Cruise thinks saved him at the orgy, which like

(01:02:59):
it's a as ex beauty queen in hotel drug overdose.
The byeline is Larry Solona and people are like, no,
the only reason they did that is because Solona was
the production's media consultant. But that seems like connective tissue
to me. Like this person who eventually broke the Epstein

(01:03:20):
story was the media consultant on this movie, so like
he could speak to like this world of you know, obviously,
like that's part of like what he reports on, So
he could speak to this world of like crazy shit
that was happening. That does seem like a pretty good
connection to me, that like this movie was at least

(01:03:44):
somewhat informed by the real powerful people sex trafficking that
was happening at the time. You know, Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
It could be. The figure would be the movie would
be more interesting. I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Going back to how boring.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
I gotta see it again because I know I've tried twice.
I was on in press.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Therapy has really made people tolerate that movie. It's so boring,
And now that you're not therapized.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Yeah, therapy is actually just a form of hypnosis that
makes you think the eyes white shut is good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yeah, that's the conspiracy nobody wants to talk about. But yeah,
I mean, the idea for the movie comes from a
nineteen twenties book that is like based on ancient like
secret society.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
So it's not like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Not like this guy caught you exactly. It's not like
this guy that gave Kubrick the idea for the movie.
It was like a movie about a weird, shadowy sex cult.
And then maybe this guy was like, you know, this
reminds me of this guy, this New York financier Jeff
Jeff Epstein. I don't know if you're familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
With I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Oh yeah, but I mean none of this is like
like he he was also thinking about like it. First
of all, he first started planning Eyes White Shut, like
after he made two thousand and one, so it was
like he'd been working on it since the sixties or
early seventies. And like he was at one point thinking
about casting Woody Allen in the movie, which would have

(01:05:16):
really that would have worked, That really would have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, it would have ruined everything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Yeah, I don't think it would have gone so well.
But anyways, interesting thing for you to know about the
new thing. So when somebody's like my favorite Christmas movie,
Eyes Wide Shut, you can now have an informed, semi
informed dumb conversation about how it's all based on real conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
You know, see, maybe there's part of me that goes, like,
you're in that conversation and so what's your favorite Christmas movie?
And a guy goes, oh, die Hard, and you go, oh,
I got one better for you? Eyes Wide Shut? Really? Why?
And then the longest explanation about Jeffrey Epps, and like

(01:06:01):
the the byeline was by the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
You know, event I'm good at a party, man, I'm
good at a partial.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
We can't come to this party. I mean, this sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
No, you you did a great job. But I can't
imagine anyone trying to make the case without eventually being committed,
you know what I mean. It'd be like, h you've
ever been to a psych ward?

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Yeah? I like Eyes Wide Shut. They almost have Woody
Allen in it, and then it would have been better. Yeah,
that's all they said.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
It's like you want to drink money. I want to
hang out a little more.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
I've already had a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Yeah, I can tell what's what's six more?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
All Right, that's gonna do it for this week's Weekly Zeitgeist.
Please like and review the show. If you like the show,
means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation. Folks.
I hope you're having a great weekend and I will
talk to you Monday.

Speaker 13 (01:06:54):
Byett