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Just got a message a minute ago. But a friend listen to you on
the radio. Are you working today? No? I'm just talking. For
the hell? What do you thinkof the question? Today? Sent me
a text? Are you working today? I'm listening to you on the radio.
You're working today? Yes, I'man idiot. I didn't take the
day off like everybody else did.Everybody else took the fifth of July off,

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but not me. I didn't.I don't think that through very strategically.
So I just love that text message. You know, it's a I'm
listening to you on the radio.Are you working today? No? I'm
not working at all. I don'tknow what you're hearing right now. Good
to have you here on the show. Jimmy is my name. Glad to
have you here. If you're workingtoday, you're an idiot. Also,
I mean sodas have to do there. You know, if I'm not showing

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up here, they're going to playlike Glenn Beck or something. I mean,
God knows, you gotta have no. I love Glenn. We love
Glenn. Glenn. I love you. If you're listening this morning, which
you're probably not, because I'm thered headed stepchild of talk radio and here
here. I am all right,good to have you here on the show.
Have you missed our segment with ahistorian John Cole talking about the parallels

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of today with Jill Biden with thathistoric figure Edith Wilson, who was the
wife of Woodrow Wilson. That segmentis now up at my website Jimmy Lakey
dot com. J I M MY L A K E Y Jimmy Lakey
dot com. Let's welcome in theprogram from Facebook dot com slash Redwave America
Mister Redwave America himself, Brian Maloney, Brian, good morning, sir.

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How are you hey? You forgotto take the day off and I actually
volunteered. I mean you promised timeand a half. Yeah, I'm going
to give you a triple time.I'm playing with house money, house money,
maybe house money. Well, ifyou remember your mathematics, zero times

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any number is still there. TheiHeart Media. They throw money around like
it's candy. Oh they do allthose radio all the radio companies do.
Yeah. Yeah, if your nameis Clay Travis buck Sex and Sean Handy,
Ryan Seacrest, yes they do.If your name is Jimmy Lakey,
They're like, who the hell areyou do? We still sign your paycheck.
That's how it works, right,Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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you want to stay. I wantto lay low and hope they forget
you still work there. Yeah,I think they forgot a long time ago.
I still work there. Any daynow, any day now, any
short time. I tell you,well, Brian, I will dive into
a couple of topics. I knowyou sent me over, but I've got
this story. I find it fascinating. CNN did a report, and uh,

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everybody's kind of reporting out of it. There's a lot of quotes in
the CNN report that reporters are beingasked, why did why did it just
kind of come up the other nightof the debate that there's some problems,
and reporters were telling CNN and cand ins reporting, well, they were
afraid if they pursued what they couldsee, it would become a right wing
talking point. Yeah, they're admittingthat we didn't report. We didn't tell

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you the truth because we didn't wantto. We just wanted to protect the
Joe Biden and we didn't want todo what's best for America. We didn't
want to have a right wing talkingpoint, which I'm confused because the right
wing gardy had the talking point,we were already saying it, Well,
yeah, no reporter wanted to belumped in with the Trumpsters, with the
you know, the Orange Man groupor whatever, and and so they all

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continued as part of this so calledconspiracy of silence. Which so we had
a story come out yesterday during thefourth of July from New York Magazine.
It's created the news. I'm likethat anyway, it's been everybody's been talking
about this story since yesterday. Andshe basically goes into she's one of them,

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of course, goes into this conspiracyof silence basically, you know,
and to me, it's like,okay, so yet another conspiracy theory,
right, we were the conspiracy theoristthat is now conspiracy fact now that the
left admits to it, that that'swhat they were doing. They were covering
for him because you didn't want tobe the one reporter that's straight from the

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pack, because you would immediately beostracized, cut off, fired, banished,
unemployed, et cetera. So thereis incredible social pressure on the left
to conform it all times. I'msitting here rading a story that broke on
Wednesday, Nicki Haley remember her,that's a name we haven't talked about in
a while. Oh yeah. NikkiHaley on Wednesday was mocking George Stefanopolis and

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she put out a tweet that says, believe me now, George, because
last August, like there's almost ayear ago, Nicki Haley said, there's
no way Joe Biden's going to finishhis term. I think Kamala Harris is
going to be the next president.That should send to chill up everyone's spine.
And during the interview where she saidthat last August, George Stefanopolos said,

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excuse me, excuse me, howdo you know Joe Biden's not going
to finish this term? What's thatbased on? Nothing wrong with him?
And George Stefanopolos knew the fact there, and Nicki Haley is like, George,
did you believe me? Do youbelieve me now again? George Stefanopolos
supposed to be the leading journalist atABC, and a year ago he was
interrupting guests who wanted to bring upthese difficulties that Joe was having. And

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I don't understand how they got tothis point. Jimmy because if you think
back and you remember the beginning ofJoe's term in twenty twenty one, you
know, the thought was, Okay, the left just got this guy elected
as a polaceholder, and they'll plugKamala in there within a couple of months.
And there was even a story Ican't have wanted to post somebody back

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then. You know, Kamala isjust waiting her turns. You can't believe
Joe hasn't resigned yet or whatever,and she's just sitting there, impatient and
seating over this because she was promisedthe presidency blah blah blah, and you
know, and then Joe didn't giveit up, and then Joe did run
for reelection, and you know,I mean, how we get to this
point? We got to this pointthere, as you say, just a

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lot of denial because they were notpaying attention, but we were. We
were watching him all this time.He's been acting, he's been loving like
this for years. This isn't new. It's only new to the Democrats,
and it's surprising because they would havebeen so much better off and not in

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this panic. And I don't haveNovember ends. I'm not a prognostic here
in the future, but right nowyou would have to say there's a lot
of turmoil on the in the Democratparty right now. There's a story out
now that a lot of donors aresaying we're not going to donate, big
time donors not going to donate untilJoe's gone. So there's a lot of
behind the scenes turmoil. All ofit could have been avoided had they just

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recognized that there was an issue andmaybe six, eight, ten months ago,
twelve months ago Joe said hey,I'm not going to run again,
it would have opened up the field. They they could have had some other
candidate step up there. So theykind of brought on some turmoil that they
didn't need to bring on. AndI'm just trying to figure out why,
why bring this on to yourself?Just be honest and tell Joe to move
aside twelve months ago, and thenyou can have Kamala, Gavin Newsom,

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grudge and Winber. I don't carewho, but why bring those turmoil on?
It just makes no sense. Well, I'll tell you this is a
rare misstep by the Democrats and bythe left because usually they are running circles
around us. Unfortunately, because theyhave a campaign machine, the likes of
which you know, we have neverknown on our side, we have never

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had anything like it. We don'thave the money, we don't have the
organizers, we don't have any ofit. We don't have the weaponized nonprofits
and weaponized government agencies and media andHollywood. We don't have any of it.
So for them to make a mistakeof this magnitude is really a luck
break for us. But I don'tthink it's gonna last. I mean,

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they're gonna figure something out here.I mean Kamala, Kamala will be a
disaster for them. I mean,she pulls even worse than Joe does.
But they will get their act togetherhere. So we have a very brief
little window too for on our ownend to to make sure that we're doing
what we need to do. Andand a lot of that, I think

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is Jimmy, is to not getto place it and and not get over
confident, because I think that's whatwill happen to us if we all we've
got this in the bag, let'sgo back to our golf game, blah
blah blah. And and yet youknow, we are to be vigilant from
here on out. If anybody canscrew it up, as a Republican wrote

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the book. Yeah, all right, now, Joe mentioned George Stephanopolis.
He's supposedly today going to film aninterview. I think it's an afternoon.
They'll air it in the evening.Evidently, Joe Biden told the guy,
and he needs to start being inbed by eight pm. I wish I
could be in bed by eight pm. I mean, I should be at
the time I wake up. ButI just can't make that happen with my

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life and things I have to do. I try my best, though,
But he's gonna before eight pm.He's going to do an interview with George
Stefanopolos, and it's not going togo live. How do you think that?
How do you think that's going togo? Well? I think they
already taped this and they've broken itinto segments, so they're going to run
some of it tonight. They're goingto run some of it Sunday morning.

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They're just taking choice little bits.I think they'll make Joe look as good
as they can in this. Idon't think that this part of it is
a setup. This is his attemptat salvaging everything. And so the problem
is we can't trust any of itbecause we don't know to what extent it's
been edited. You know, Republicanshave been calling on the network to release

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the entire interview unedited. We're notgoing to get that. So but you
know there is this talk out therein the media. Well, Joe knows
he only has a few days.I don't know if you've said that to
turn things around or it's over.And I think that is a fallacy.
I think that's completely wrong. Ithink it was already too late for Joe
a while ago. I think itwas too late for Joe the night of

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that to date, and I don'tthink there's anything Joe can do now that
will turn this around. It's toolate. I mean, people look at
him like, look, he's onlygoing to get older and more feeble minded
from here. Nothing is going toreverse in your opinion, Will Joe continue
through November on top of the ticketor will he not? I don't think
he will, do you I wouldnot be surprised if he does. We'll

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find out. Oh you think hemight. You think he might try to
pick it out. I just don'tsee a viable option. I think it's
just open Convention's not going to begood. I don't think doctor Jill Biden
want. I don't see how theyjust could have solved a lot of the
problems. I don't see how theycan move him easily. I don't think
it gets any better for them politicallyto slip somebody. So I don't know,

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they've created chaos and didn't even createwell. I think if you know,
somebody could have just given Kamala adecent speech writer and she could have
just stuck to it and knocked offher stupid word salad. You know,
they probably could have faked it theirway through that. But I mean,
she's just so awful. And assoon as she starts speaking that the tone,

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that nasally tone that she uses,it's like a it's sort of a
Californian valley speak thing, a Californiagirl. So well yeah, but I
mean, I you know, I'mI hate to admit it, but I'm
I'm originally from that state too,But you know, I'm embarrassed, But
I mean, I am, Andyou know, I mean, I hope

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I don't talk like her, butwho knows. I don't. By the
way, you're right about the stephanopolosingtonight. Stephanopolis is again that I just
referred to. That was interrupting NikkiHayley saying just less than a year.
There's no sign of any issue withthat. Joe Biden and he's gonna do
the interview to that. They allknew it. So Stephanopolois has not been

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true to this point. So youcan't trust ABC News tonight. We'll see
how it works out, are uK. Let's go across the pond,
my friends. In one of myfavorite cities in the world is London.
I could just moved to London oneday. I don't know, it's halfway
to Africa. Could I could kindof commute back and forth to USA?
Yeah, and Rwanda. Let meask you, what do you take these

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elections? The Labor Party wins,a Conservative Party ousted. Yeah, so
this was an interesting situation and it'snot what it appears. I mean,
you know, because you could lookat this thing, say, you know,
every country seems to be shifting rightword in their elections. Why did
the UK just go to the extremeleft last night? And the reason is

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that the Conservative vote got split inhalf. The New Reform Party, which
is Nigel Frage, which is youknow, many American Conservatives know him because
he's pretty active over here. Itcomes to Seapack every year. You know,
we pretty much know the guy here. His new Reform Party carved away

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half the Conservative vote. Well fora good reason, because the Tories have
become just a lot like the Republicans, you know, like a bunch of
Mitch McConnell's kind of that's what's happened, and people got fed up. So
half the vote went to them,but they only ended up with four seats
in Parliament for their half of thevote. So the Labor Party only increased

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their vote by one and a halfpercent over the last election. Usually isn't
it isn't enough to even win.And if you actually added the Conservative and
Reform votes together, it was morethan Labor by several percentage points. So
Labor just lucked out because Conservatives splittheir vote in half. So you can

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say, okay, well, what'sthe lesson for Americans. Well, you
know we've always had this debate.If we start a new party already,
what happens to he split the voteand lose everything. Well, the answer
is probably yes. The other hand, when you get so set up with
the party that you can't stand tovote for him anymore, which is what
happened in Britain. You know,when the Conservatives are no longer doing anything

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for you and you're like, whyeven bother voting for this? That's how
you get to where they are.So for us, you're just saying,
look, you know, okay,there may only be four of us entering
Parliament. By the way, hewill be in Parliament for the first time
ever, the UK Parliament. Heused to be in the European Parliament,
but that that doesn't that doesn't matteranymore. They're not in European un so

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that he'll be in there and he'sgoing to be screaming at Labor the whole
time. But I mean, Laboris going to be doing crazy, crazy
stuff. So there's some lessons forus here, you know. Can he
build on the four seats in thefuture. I don't know. I don't
know. I saw a story thismorning early that I guess the polling data

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that as people were left the polls, one of the reasons they voted for
a change was they were tired ofthe slow economy. They were tired of
illegal migration or illegal immigration. Yeah, yeah, it's the same issue.
The UK folks were fed up withillegals in their country, the same way
Americans are polling that they're fed upwith that. We're fed up with the
illegals in our country. So itis the fascinating parallel. They went to

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the vote, and they went tothe ballot box and they protested the status
quo. Is how you can interpretthat? Because they're sick of a crappy
economy, high inflation, and they'rejust sick of illegals over running their country.
Yeah, but they're going to getmore of all of it with labor.
So it was a very very badmove, very bad. Yeah.
Nigel's been on this program before.I think once or twice in my career

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have interviewed him. And I've alwayswanted to get together with the Smoke a
Cigar. I know where he hangsout and smokes cigars in London, and
I keep kind of hanging out therewaiting for him to show up when I'm
through there, and they usually callhim and tell him there's a stalker here
waiting for him. And you know, ever shows us sub guy from Colorado's
here. What there's this dude that'shere? He says he's measured before it's

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rare. They don't like me thecigar Palace. We like it, Jimmy.
Don't worry about London, you know, right headed stepchild of talk.
Right now I get I get treatedin London at a cigar bar like I
do it in the Radio Kingdom.Brian Malone, it's a pleasure. Sorry
you didn't get Friday off. Ihave triple time paying for today. I

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appreciate you though a friend, andwe'll catch up again next Thursday in real
time at a real time for BrianMaloney, Red Wave America. All right,
it's news Talk six hundred casey,Well, it is interesting. Matter
of fact, I just pulled upanother story that's on my screen about the
UK election and their exit polling isexactly one of the topics that mattered most
to you. And they all said, we don't like the illegals coming here,

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and our economy is really sucky rightnow. And they all said it,
by the way, to all youfolks in the UK you had to
work yesterday. We didn't because wegave you the greatest breakup letter of all
time, and that was called ourDeclaration of Independence. Go to my Facebook
page, Facebook dot com. SlastJimmy Laky fanpage and realize that Independence Day
is celebrating around the globe. Aboutevery six days a nation celebrates her independence

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from the British Empire. It's reallyI never knew this but until I posted
it up. Look at the map. It's up there. Facebook dot Com
slash Jimmy lackyfanpage. If you're realnice to me, I will speak a
British accent the rest of the showtoday. Maybe I won't. I don't
know. Stand by six hundred kcoall right. Yesterday was the fourth of

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July. Obviously Independence Day in America. Well, we're very well rounded on
this show. It was also LiberationDay in Rwanda. Of course, you
know, I know Rwanda. Iliked Rwanda and love that place and travel
there several times a year. LiberationDay, locally as Quibohora is the commemorates

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the defeat of the previous regime,the Hobby Romana. Basically, it's the
end of the Rwandan genocide. TheRwandan genocide was the culmination after a four
year civil war that was happening betweentwo political factions in that nation, and
it eventually ended up with what youknow is the Rwanda Genocide. The movie
Hotel Rwanda, a depiction of thatbased on some facts. Some of that

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is well, it's based on facts, but some of it is definitely a
lot of Hollywood license in that depiction. But that all happened, and that
civil war line died for four yearsand it ended in nineteen ninety four at
the conclusion of the genocide. Andthe genocide ended because the Rwandan Patriarch Front,

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the RPF ended it and they endedup becoming victorious and have run the
country every since. So it's abeautiful country. And yesterday was Liberation Day,
so it's amazing. I forget that, and I do know that,
but I forget it. But Ialways my African friends. I wake up
to messages Happy Independence Day, Jimmy, Happy Independence Day, all sorts of
messages out there from them, andthen I go, oh, that always

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reminds me, oh, it's LiberationDay in Rwanda. But it's really fascinating.
If you go to at rivers Promisepage, Riverspromise dot Facebook dot com
S's rivers Promise, I think weput up a little meme and some photos
of their commemoration of Liberation Day.So if you want to feel well traveled
and kind of real smart listen tothe show. Okay, maybe not.

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If you want to feel real smart, to go to my Facebook dot com
SA's rivers promise and you can seehow they celebrated Liberation Day, thirty years
of liberation. So we celebrated yesterdaytwo hundred and forty eight years of being
Americans, two hundred and forty eightyears, and they celebrated thirty years of
being liberated. I also wanted togo to this Facebook post that I put

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up yesterday, Facebook dot com slashJimmy Lakey fan page. If I can
give a shameless plug Facebook dot comslash Jimmy Lakey fanpage, and I want
you to look at it and seethat we celebrated yesterday our independence. Did
you know? And this is atrue fact, Roughly every six days in
the world, a country celebrates itsindependence from Britain. We are not unique

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in celebrating our independence from Britain.You go there, there's a graphic.
There's from the American Council on Scienceand Health, and it reminds us that
yesterday, July the fourth, seventeenseventy six, we declared our independence from
Britain. It didn't happen immediately.There was a long, bloody war that
happened beyond that, but we declaredit July fourth, seventeen seventy six,

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and roughly every six days around theglobe there's another country that celebrated. It
celebrates as independence from Great Britain,and probably outside of Christmas, they say
it's the most widely celebrated holiday inthe world is liberation from Britain. So
that I never knew that until yesterdayand I looked it up. I said,

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you know what, that's pretty accurateabout every six days one of these
countries. And there's actually a mapand it tells the years that some of
these countries. I mean, itgoes for all the places that they had
colonized and had used the Crown,had had rule and authority over places on
every continent, every body of water, there's an island out there somewhere that

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every six days or so, somebodyis celebrating or independence from Britain. All
right, that's all at Facebook dotcom slashumu Lacky fan page if you also
want to sound smart and feel smart, not only learning about Rwandan Liberation Day
and about the every six days thata country declares its independence from Great Britain,
from the Crown. You can alsogo to my website Jimmy Lakey dot

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com. I've already posted up theinterview of historian John P. Cole.
No relation to Roscoe P. Coltrane, just John P. Cole. John
Cole's a historian and he's a fantasticI've had many conversations with him, and
you get him rolling on history,man, he'll start talking history and it's

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it's like, who pulled history?No, I mean, it's a really
fun conversation, but it is thatthe conversation was about Edith Galt Wilson,
and that was Woodrow Wilson's second wife, and I knew that she had been
dubbed as maybe the first female president, but I was not aware that it
went on for seventeen months that WoodrowWilson had a stroke. And by the

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way, I did also not know. I kind of vaguely remember that his
collapse and the problem that he hadstarted to Pueblo, Colorado, and that's
when the aide said to missus Wilson, you got to get him back to
the White House immediately. And fromthere really almost the last public appearance that
Woodrow Wilson did was in Pueblo,Colorado, as he was trying to sell

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his agenda across and it was tryingto sell joining the League of Nations.
And John Cole talks about that inthe interview, and he was just kind
of doing almost a whistle stop tourto try to convince the Americans that we
should be involved in the League ofNations, the precursor of the United Nations
and other things. And so hestopped in Pueblo. Has the collapse rushes

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back to the White House, andthe rest is kind of history, as
he was, kind of history.And he was bedridden and John said could
barely speak, and even the VPand the other cabinet officers, members of
Congress, Speaker of the House,no one was allowed to see him.
His wife's did guard to the door, go to the residents, and she
would take the information in a littlechatter, rustling of paper and should come

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back and make the decision. Sohow involved Woodrow Wilson was, I think
no one really knows. No onereally knows, But it's a fascinating conversation
that happened last hour. And youcan go to Jimmy Lakey dot com and
hear that interview a little moment inhistory, and it's kind of a comparative
to the Kamala Harris. Let's saybecomes the nominee, and if she wins

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the presidency or if Joe Biden forsome reason resigns from the presidency, Kamala
would be the first president of theUnited States that's a female. But maybe
not. Maybe it was Edith GaltWilson. So that's interview with historian John
Cole is up at my website JimmyLakey dot com. J I M M
y lak Y. Now again,I started the show by telling you that

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to be very careful. Wednesday onthe show, it seems like every time
I switched a website or turned anews channel, everybody had breaking news.
CNN had breaking news, Fox Newshad breaking news. New York Times is
running headlines. And we have asource that says, and I want to
just remind you, in the modernday that we live in, don't believe

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everything you read or hear in themedia, the mainstream media, because a
lot of what you watch, itdoesn't matter if you're a maybe you're Fox
News watcher, maybe you're an MSNBCwatcher. A lot of this is all
designed to get you to watch longer, and that's why they have these breaking
scrolls on the bottom of the screen, breaking news updates, and you almost

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almost the entire time, you're justheld captive, like, Wow, this
is really breaking news. No it'snot. There's nothing breaking. And this
is why one of the reasons themedia has gotten very sloppy with the source
with something called sources say. NewYork Times said they have a source that
said Joe Biden had had a conversationwith him, and their source says that

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he had talked about if I don'tget back together, I'm going to have
to drop out. Well maybe hedid. I don't know if that's even
a breaking news story. It's howyou frame it. I mean, if
you've had a bad day and yougot yelled at by your boss, or
you're in conflict with your boss andyou go home and you tell your spouse
or your significant other, Hey,you know what, it didn't get better.
I'm probably gonna have to quit orthey're going to can my ass.

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If you say that, that doesn'tmean that you the sources say they are
only going to be the job abouttwo more days, totally misinterpreted that So
when New York Times sources say thesources said that Joe Biden in confidence told
them that he's really probably going tohave to maybe think about stepping aside.

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First of all, did he havethe conversation, I don't know. He
probably if he's aware, he probablyknows that there's a lot of talk about
him stepping aside. But why didCNN, Fox News? Why does everybody?
Why did New York Times even runthat story when you're really, Parson,
it's not really a story. Youknow why? New York Times needs
clicks, CNN needs to see streams, Fox News needs to see listeners as

(26:56):
well, our viewers as well,And so they run these stories that aren't
stories, but they make you thinkyou're in the middle of some Parler game,
and it just becomes a bunch ofspeculation. And as I said,
the worst thing that's probably happened inmodern time too journalism is the is the
fact that we have, is thefact that we have a twenty four hour

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news cycle. I told you thestory that I manipulated the national media with
an April Fool's joke my earliest daysof talk radio two thousand and I went
on air and April Fool's joke onthe airs, a lot of radio guys
do. I announced that I hadsources a source it sound familiar, A
sources that Al Gore was choosing thenDenver Mayor Wellington Webb as his running mate

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for the presidency. And it becameeven one of I didn't work for this
company now but at the time.Now I do, but our sister station
was a competitor at the time,the Big Blowtorch. They actually on their
morning news they picked up on myApril Fool's joke, not knowing it's an
April Fool's joke, and they go, sources are around town or saying that

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Denver Mayor Wellington Web and others.CNN reported it for a moment, the
national talk shows picked up on it. The DNC called me and said,
where'd you get this information. Itwas a total mess, and it was
all an April Fool's joke, butthe media was so desperate for the attention
that they all ran with it.And so I'm telling you, if an
April fools joke by little old JimmyLakey, the redheaded stepchild of talk radio,

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can cause a national fervor, andpeople reported as facts. I guarantee
you there's a lot of stuff you'rehearing right now that's not fact. It
could be pro Joe Biden, itcould be anti Joe Biden. There's a
lot of crap out there. Itain't April Fools. But be careful.
They're just trying to get your listenershipand your viewership, and it clicks on

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those websites. Everybody stand by sixhundred kcol all right, true story I

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did. It was an April Fool'sjoke, and always, ever since that
moment twenty something years ago, Irecognize that you got to be careful what
the media is telling you because therewere new sources. I went on the
air April Fool's Joke in twenty twentytwenty and I had interviewed George W.

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Bush and he ended up choosing DickCheney as his running mate. And around
that time late March, excuse me, in April, al Gore had locked
up the nomination, but he hadnot chosen a running mate, and so
there was a lot of speculation aboutwho he's going to choose his or always
is. There's a lot of fervorand who's gonna be Who's running made and

(30:02):
so I went on the air andsaid, I had sources that told me
that al Gore it was an Aprilfols joke. A lot of radio stations
that a lot of stations don't evenhave live people out of them anymore,
so April fools jokes are not asprominent. But back in the glory days
of radio, your local guy wasalways just pulled in some prank. Right,
So we pulled a prank. Programdirector was in on it, and

(30:22):
we were gonna matter of fact,he and I came up with it together.
He had done one the year beforethat. The year before he had
his April Fool's joke was that incastle Rock calling out, I mean it
was castle Rock, castle Rock wasgoing to carve I forget somebody's face into
the castle Rock is like a maltRushmore and that. So he told me

(30:45):
that one. I said, well, here's my April Fool's joke, and
that al Gore is going to chooseWellington Web, the Denver mayor. It's
his running mate. And so wewent on the air and we had I
had a Chuck Green, who wasthe editor of the Denver Post at the
time, and the columnists there oldChuck came on the program and he was
kind of in on it. Weand we had an all line up.
It was it was fun and wehad a great morning, and all of

(31:06):
a sudden, the uh, Iwas I was working with a different company
at the time, and now oneof my sister station is the Big Blowtorch.
They went on there, they andwe had recordings that they were going
sources around town. There's their sourcesreporting that al Gore would be choosing Denver
may or Wellington Web. There wasno source. It's just me on the

(31:26):
radio. That was their source.And I said I had sources. But
they then in other words, itbegan to spin and the next thing we
know, CNN was running it onone of the radio feeds for they had
seen it in radio network. Idon't know if they still do a scene
in radio. I'm sure they dobecause Foxy is one as well. It
just became this national story because Isaid that I had a source. It
was an April Fool stage joke,and it became what we'd called now viral.

(31:51):
This was before the days of usingthat phrase. It was it was
fantastic. It was crazy, andso every since then when I see either
MSNBC, Fox News, CNN ora newspaper say, sources say this,
sources say that it can be.Sources said this about Joe Biden. Sources
said this about Jill Biden. Sourcessaid this about Donald Trump. I realized

(32:14):
a lot of that stuff is justkind of made up out of whole cloth,
as Steele dossier gave a lot ofthe talking points about. Sources said
Donald Trump had hooker's pee on arich Carlton bed. He wasn't even had
there. It's Carlton, but it, sources said. And that was created
out out of the Steele dossier,which was paid for by the Clinton campaign.
It's all documented true, but itbecame a news story and it really

(32:36):
wasn't a news story. It's justsomething made up. Al Gore choosing Wellington
Web was not a news story.It was something I made up. But
I manipulated the national media with itfor a few hours and had I not
come clean with it and said no, this is April. I closed the
show by saying April fools, andthey still kept going with it. And
finally it was a it was aFriday, and I was like, Okay,

(32:57):
guess we're done. It's over.So I'm calling me about this,
but it became a big deal.So all I'm telling you, whether you
want Joe across the finish line oryou don't want Joe across the finish line,
whether you want Kamala or you wantGavin, or you want the Orange
Man, I don't care. AllI'm telling you is be very careful.
I have seen it firsthand. Ihave been on the participating end of it.

(33:19):
Wasn't trying to manipulate the media.I was just trying to have some
fun on the radio show. ButI've seen so how easily people will pick
up on something when someone says sources, and so Wednesday was chaos. I
even tuned into the show that comeson aftermine, the Clayton Buck Show,
Travis and Sexton Show, and theywere talking about it. It's like they
were talking, it's like a palacecoup is happening right now. I think

(33:42):
it's the phrase they used. Andit was new That's how what Wednesday was
crazy, Just sitting here for themorning and it was amping up. The
show went on more and more sources. New York Times source, this source,
this, sources. Everybody was saidthey had a source, and I
in my head. I just kindof was driving home saying, man,
the media is really happiness of becausewhat happens is they have to get your
list, they need the website clicks, they need you to stream it.

(34:05):
This is why, whether you watchthe Fox or the CNN, they have
these scrolls across the bottom of thescreen. And see how many times it'll
say breaking news all day long,breaking news because there's something about us news
people that we want to watch itand it keeps you on there. And
the more times they feel that streamingthrough the cable box or out of the
satellite whatever gives them ratings. Andthe way that they can run a headline

(34:28):
that Al Gore chooses Wellington Web.You just flash that on. People are
gonna start clicking that thing on yourwebsite. And that's what you need.
You need to drive traffic. Yougot to drive traffic. So just be
aware. My friends, I'm isBrian Maloney and I have talked this hour.
Brian does not believe that Joe Bidenwill be on the ticket in November.

(34:49):
I'm not so convinced he won't be. I can see a possibility that
he is. I don't know,but all I'm telling you is try to
have a dose of pragmatism and realizethat a lot of this stuff that is
non stop, wall to wall conversationabout this is not based in fact,
it's based on sources. The source. The story out today is that sources

(35:09):
say big time donors are not goingto donate unless Joe Biden's go Who are
the sources, where do they comefrom? Is that true? I don't
know, but they report it andas long as the media can say a
source has told them, they arecovered up and they say, well a
source told us, that's how weran with a story. Uh, it's

(35:31):
now. There is one governor thatdid confess that Joe Biden did say he
needs to be bed by eight o'clock. In other words, there's a lot
of truth and there's a lot ofmistruth and a lot of things they tell
you to watch out for. AndI don't know if the donors have backed
the way. I don't know.It's sources say they have. Who are
the sources? We don't know,but hey, it makes a good headline

(35:52):
on the news screen, doesn't it. Everybody stand by Laky six hundred K col
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