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Speaker 1 (00:16):
All right, News Talk six hundred K col My name
is Jimmy, Jimmy Lakey. Glad to have you here. I'm
privileged to have two candidates across the hallway, across the
desk from me. Jil AIRA. McMillan is on my left.
If you're watching on television, which are not, because there
is no television here. Jelair McMillan is on my left.
Dan Woog is on my right. They're both candidates for

(00:37):
House District nineteen, and they're both gracious enough to share
some time with me in the studio and talk about
House District nineteen. Let me set the parameters. Boulder and
welld County are both part of a House District nineteen,
A small bit of a Boulder County including parts of Eerie,
and then going across I twenty five into the Weld County,

(00:57):
and you got the Dakono, the Eederick, the Firestone, unincorporated Longmond,
and someone Longmont and does mead part of that district?
No need, So that's kind of the parameters. So a
very large population center of northern Colorado right there on
that I twenty five corridor, and House District nineteen is
also pretty registration wise, pretty neck and neck regarding Red team,

(01:20):
Blue Team Democrat Republicans. So it's a really interesting district
and so there's a it's definitely it's definitely a close one.
So both candidates are in the studio here and have
agreed to conversation before the segment. We flipped a coin.
I found a quarter in my pocket. We flipped Jill
Are McMillan was heads. Dan Woog was tails. That came
up heads. That means Jilaire gets to go first. And

(01:42):
so we're gonna start with some opening statements. I got
a couple of questions, and then the next segment we'll
we'll get to talk and ask questions of each other.
Jillerry McMillan will welcome, thank you, and I'll let you
introduce yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Good morning, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
So many of your listeners may not have heard my
name before, and that's because I'm not a professional politician,
a regular person and a first time candidate. My husband
and I started and run a small robotics business together
for decades. I've been a volunteer and leader in my
children's schools and in our church congregations. For the last
seven and a half years, I've been a leader in

(02:14):
a national nonpartisan organization called Mormon Women for Ethical Government,
and our seven thousand grassroots members are about one third Democrat,
one third Republican, and one third independent. And as a result,
I have a lot of experience working in these cross
partisan spaces to come up with respectful solutions, based ideas

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and communication that really bring a lot of nuance to
political issues that I think most of our voters really want.
Most importantly, I'm a mom of four children. Like others,
I worry about the high cost of living, safety in
our community and our schools, and access to affordable health care.
So I want to bring my hard work and my
problem solving skills to the capital to be able to

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address these issues in a way that brings positivity to politics.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Go ahead and give your website out and we'll give
it later. But give your website how the post won't
know about it.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, it's Jelaire forco dot com. And my name is
spelled j I L l A I r E. So
it's Jelaire fo r COO dot com.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
House District nineteen candidate Jela McMillan. Now we go across
the table to Dan Wog. Dan, you get sixty seconds
introduce yourself.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Sir, Thank you, Jimmy. It's good to be here and
get to know so many patriots are listening. I'm Dan Woog.
I'm also running for House District nineteen, and I am
a father of two beautiful children, and I have a
business that's really been affected by so much regulation recently,
and that's really what drives me to run again. You know,
my Democrat opponents party has really had a negati effect

(03:41):
on TABOR. They keep going after our funds. It's taxpayer
dollars that need to go back to taxpayers, and that
has been happening the last few years.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Over and over again.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
We've seen soft laws that have really created a crime
issue in Colorado. We have the number one auto rate,
theft number one, and theft for automobiles. We're number three
for violent crimes in the whole country. The cost of
living has gone up dramatically. We have inflation, and I
will talk about that more today. We've had inflation that's

(04:10):
affected businesses and they're forced to increase their cost So
I'm going to support TABOR and fight for that. I'm
going to be tough on crime and I'm certainly going
to do everything I can to prevent higher taxes and
keep our cost of liverit.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Dan, give your website out as well.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
My website is wog for HD nineteen dot com wog
fo RhD nineteen dot com.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
All right, I'm going to ask you a couple of questions.
You guys can respond to keep your answers. We're close
to sixty seconds as you can, and then we'll let
each of you kind of respond back and forth, and
we'll try to get through about three or four major
topics in this one. Break and again JILERR. McMillan, Dan
Woog in the studio House District nineteen conversation. I'm going
to start with the cost of living. Both of you
have mentioned that in your opening statements. Consumer price index

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in America has grown about twenty percent of the last
three to four years. Everybody feels at the grocery store,
everybody feels it at the gas pump. And you know,
there's a lot of national policies that the state legislature
doesn't affect regarding inflation. There's some things that we can't
do about here in Colorado. But I'll start with Jill Air.
Let's go back to you and ask you this question,
what can we do and what should we do to

(05:14):
try to make Colorado more affordable and lower our cost
of living?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
You're on, Well, one of the things that I hear
a lot from constituents as I go around and knock
doors in the district is that they are concerned about
this cost of living and particularly about affordable housing. And
so I think there are a lot of different ways
that we can address the housing issue here. We need
to have more flexibility in our zoning. A lot of
those our municipal things, and so the state needs to

(05:40):
be careful about how it does that and works with municipalities.
We can have We can streamline our permitting processes, get
rid of some of those regulations that are slowing down
the building. Last time I was on Jimmy, you asked
me about construction defects laws. I've learned a lot more
about that and know that there were some efforts to
amend those last year in the legislature that failed, and
I would be interested in pursuing those. I've talked to

(06:01):
some voters and some builders who are interested in that
as well. So we need to do things to increase
the housing supply, especially for some of these first time
home buyers to get into condos, townhouses, some of that
inventory that we're not seeing because of some of the
things that are happening. And so I'm in favor of
expanding opportunities for home ownership, especially by increasing the supply

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and seeing what we can do that would help lower
those housing costs.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
We sit up this debate, I said, I'm going to
ask the same question of both candidates, so we're not
changing up for per candidate. So, Dan, you heard the
question talking about the cost of living. Some things cannot
be affected locally. They're a national issue. But what can
we do? What should we do in Colorado to lower
the cost of living here on the clock?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, thank you. I do and I agree with Jill
Air on this one. We do need to get some
more affordable housing, and condominium defects is a major issue there.
So I don't know if we would come across it
the same way, but we do need to get down
there and create laws that take some of the liability
from these builders so condominiums can be built.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Again.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
We have expansive soil in Colorado, as many people know,
and because of the liability that's almost put a stop
or has put a stop to any kind of minium building.
And frankly, both of us have kids. I want my
kids to be able to buy their first home here
if they choose to do that, and right now I
don't see that as a possibility, so kind of miniums
will be huge. Another thing is, you know, when we
talk about costs of living, and I mentioned this, we

(07:20):
have so much regulation and it's hit my own business
that gets laid on top of us a year after year,
and that creates that creates a problem because now I've
raised my costs, My costs have gone up, and I've
raised costs for my customers, so that gets passed on
and that's businesses across the state, dan.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wig, do either of you have any follow up to
each other on that? If not, we'll move on to
our next topic. There. Next topic again, cost of living,
trying to keep it. We're limited to an hour, so
we got to kind of keep moving. Let's go through immigration,
national surveys and I'm sure Colorado surveys as well. Some
of them show that the two issues on people's mind

(07:59):
heading into so like our cost of living inflation is
hurting their pocketbook, and then they're worried about immigration and
illegal immigration, and here's what we do know. And my
son is an immigrant, So I'm all for immigration. I'm
for legal immigration. But that's where I sit and where
I stand. But let me bring up the topic of immigration.
We did realize from the border patrol just a couple

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of weeks ago that of the people that have come
into our country, we have four hundred and thirty five
that have come in that were criminals, criminal charge criminals,
and they've been released into our population. Thirteen thousand people
have been murderers. That's not saying that all immigrants are,
but even in Denver, they brought in illegal immigration, migrants
whatever you want to call them, and we put them

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on buses and ship them out because Denver could not
handle the onslaught of these immigrants. So Dan, we'll start
with you this time, and then well let Jhilaire jump
in here. What do we need to do in Colorado
or do we need to do anything? We have a
problem at our southern border. How does that affect Colorado
and what do we need to do to fix it?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, we certainly have a problem at the southern border,
and one major thing that's an issue is currently we
have a state law that does not allow federal agents
to work with local law enforcement officers to make sure
that they are detaining these criminals that and many have
a violent criminal record that has to happen. We have
again Democrat legislature legislators that passed a law that does

(09:26):
not allow that, and to me, that's just crazy. I mean,
I'm going to mention again we're number one in auto theft,
we're number three in the country and violent crimes. It's
just unacceptable to know that we are allowing more people in.
Some are good people, but many are not, and that
we can't even track them because we can't allow federal
law enforcement to work with local law enforcement. So and

(09:48):
I would certainly like to know from my opponents perspective.
I mean, we you know, we have a sanctuary state.
We've promoted this, and I wonder if she agrees with
her Democrat party that this is a sanctuary state and
that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Julire, same question for you. Do we have a problem
at our southern border, how does that affect Colorado and
what should we do about it?

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yes, we have a lot of people coming to our
southern border. They want to seek a better way of
life here in America because we have a lot of
opportunities here and I'm really grateful for that. This is
a federal issue that needs to be handled federally, and
I support efforts by our federal delegation to pass a
non bipartisan legislation this summer that was torpedoed by some

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who decided to keep this as a political campaign issue.
And so I really think that we need to pass
laws that support our that give more resources to our
border patrol agents and to ICE to be able to
process all the people that are coming here. Does it
create a strain on us locally, Absolutely, And what we
find is that is that we have people who many

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good people trying to address the needs that are happening here.
But what we do need to do is we need
to support our local law enforcement being able to handle
the laws and the jurisdiction that they've been given. I
think it's really important to make sure that the officers
that are here can address community safety, and they do
that by having it clearly define what they're supposed to

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do and what the federal agents are supposed to do.
And then cooperating where the law does allow, which it
does in some cases.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Either one, if you have a follow U, Dad, do
you have any follow up? You have any follow up?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I just want I think this is what you said,
but just to clarify, so, you do not support Colorado
as a sanctuary state.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
The precise definition of it being a sanctuary state. I
support legal immigration. I support our law enforcement being able
to uphold the laws that they are required to uphold.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
All right, let's move to our next question. Next question,
you guys will also get to the next segment of a
chance to ask each other some questions as well directly.
But let me ask you this. This is a fifty
to fifty kind of district House District nineteen. It's very tight.
There's a lot of blue, a lot of red in it.
And it's not a part of district like downtown Denver,
and it's not the most red place in Weald County.
It's kind of right down the middle. It's kind of

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a smorgas board of the best of the best. How
do you intend to represent a and how do you
I should say, represent people that might not be from
your political party? Should you get elected we'll start with
you on this one.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
So, as I mentioned in my opening statement, I have
been working for the last seven and a half years
in a nonpartisan political nonprofit. It's called Mormon Women for
Ethical Government. Mormon is a nickname for members of the
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, And to
be clear, the organization m WEG is not officially affiliated
with the church, but I am. I am a lifelong

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member of that church, and many people know that it
is a more conservative voting block traditionally, and so I
like to say that I've been practicing what it means
to be a Democrat in a swing district for my
whole life. Most of my good friends, many of my
good friends are Republicans, many of my family members, my
own husband is a registered Republican. And so I know

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what it means to work alongside, to serve alongside, and
to love people who come from different political backgrounds. And
I have that work demonstrated not just in my personal life,
but in my career in this advocacy work. Being able
to work on tough issues that bring people together and
find solutions. We don't just talk about it, but we
also look for solutions and if people look at my record,

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they will see that that's what I do. And so
I do intend to represent all of District nineteen. And
I can do that because I've shown it.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Dan well your response to the same question.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
I Fortunately, I have served all of the district at
different times. I was a trustee and ERIE for two
terms and that was eight years, so I learned a
lot about what ERI wants and as you kind of
mentioned earlier, and ERIE has Weld and Boulder County and
within it, so there are a lot of varying opinions.
And I got to listen a lot as a trustee
and really understand what people are concerned with. And not

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only that, I had a small business there in My
office was located down there, so I oftentimes would talk
to people walking by and go talk to local business
owners right next door. And the thing I hear more
and more are many Eerie residents and all of HD
nineteen residents have a concern with how we're spending our money,
how the government's spending their money, how they're overtaxing us.

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But there's also a concern with clean air quality. I mean,
I set through a lot on oil and gas extraction,
and I realize that it's very important to so much
of the district that we do what we can for that.
So that I will support solar, I will support clean
natural gas, and I'm going to really make a push
for nuclear to ensure that we do have clean air
and people are happy with our environment.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
All right, let's move on before we take a break here,
One more quick topic I told you was kind of
a possibility. We had a couple of moments education in Colorado.
Our test scores plummeted during the COVID. They bounce back some,
there's still not the pre COVID levels. We've heard the
Department of Education might kind of change their standards for
graduation just because they we're struggling. It seems like in

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public education very quickly. You know, it's a big topic
and a lot of different solutions. But what do you
think of the way public education is heading in the
state of Colorado and what do we need to do
to address that? And I believe you went last first
last time, and dead Dan, You're going to go first
this time. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
With education, there's a lot of things, you know, I
do believe in school choice. I believe that parents and
their students should be able to choose which school they
go to. I actually think that creates competition. I think
that's better for the schools and they're actually gonna get
better at what they do. In many ways, it's important
that there's a transparency in the curriculum. I have two children,
and you know, there's been some questionable political things that

(15:38):
have come to my attention where I've had to actually
email and talk to the principal and the teacher because
it's at times it can be biased. The parents need
to know what their children are being taught. There needs
to be transparency there. There needs to be transparency and
how the money is spent as well, so we know
where those dollars are going. I do support schools having
training for certain trades and technical opportunities because a lot

(15:59):
of students are going to four year college and there's
other opportunities and we need that workforce.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Jelry macmillan, you're to take on education in the state
of Colorado. Where are we at?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
So for the first time since the Great Recession, we
are fully funding our schools. During the Great Recession, property
taxes plummeted and the legislature took money funding away from schools,
and the legislators worked hard to bring that back. We're
back at our fully funded levels, but it's kind of
a nineteen eighty nine level when we originally said schools

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need to be funded equitably across the state, and we're
asking schools to do so much more now than we
were in nineteen eighty nine in terms of testing, safety,
social and emotional health, and so it's really important that
we continue to keep that funding up. I participated in
Saint Rain Valley School District's Leadership Saint Vrain last year,
which gave me a lot of information about some of
these things that Dan is talking about, transparency and funding,

(16:52):
learning about curriculum. The schools are really giving these opportunities
to parents if they choose to take them, and I
know any teacher that you want to email and ask
about their curriculum would be happy to have parents be
involved with that. So I think we're doing a good
job and we just need to keep that funding at
that's proper levels to give the teachers and schools the
resources they need.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
All Right, everybody stand by. Jelaire McMillan is my guest
in the studio a Democrat for House District nineteen. Dan
Woog is a Republican for House District nineteen. They're both
in the studio. Graciously with me. We're gonna come back
in a moment, and they're gonna get to talk to
each other, ask each other a couple of questions around
and back and forth, back forth, and let them ask
each other questions, and well, let the conversation continue. Everybody

(17:32):
stand by. It's Jimmy Lakey. That's me, by the way,
Jimmy Lakey, News Talk six hundred case col stand by.
All right, one more time, walcome back into the show.
Two more segments to go in this hour A special
hour House District nineteen discussion with two candidates in the

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studio jil Aiir McMillan and Dan Woog in the pro
in the studio. In the you're gonna get your ballot
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here we go, my friends. I've got Dan Woog in
the studio, Jelair McMillan. They are both candidates in House
District nineteen. And this is a segment where we're going

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to take just a couple of minutes back and forth
and let them ask each other questions. And I believe
according to our coin flip and rock paper scissors in
whatever game we played here in the studio. Dan's going
to ask the first question of Jela and Jelaire. You
guys can just respond here Dan.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Woo, you're up, Thank you, Jimmy, Jilaia. There's a big
concern for me, and I think a lot of callreds.
There's with all of the crime that's happened in Colorado,
and of course some of it some of it is
from the illegal immigration. We've seen a huge spike in
issues with fentanyl. Truly, people are dying. I plan to
meet with a young lady in my district that has
a child that they lost their child to fentanyl. So

(19:33):
the Democrat Party actually when I was a state legislator
just a couple of years back, they actually decriminalized fentanyl.
So I'd like, I think it's important for the listeners
to know is that something you'd support the DECRIMINALI decriminalization
that your party supported, or how do you feel about that.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So I know that there have been a lot of
accusations going around about me, linking me to a lot
of things on a lot of the mailers that a
lot of voters are receiving, and so I just want
to be clear that I'm a first time candidate, I
was not in the legislature when these laws were passed.
And I do support safe communities, I support families. I

(20:11):
feel really saddened to hear about this, UH constituent that
you're going to go see who whose child passed away.
And want to be clear that that I support measures
to keep our community safe. I support local law enforcement
and have approached them over the last few months or
you know, over my time as a candidate, to to

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ask about the different kinds of supports that they need
and and and their public safety concerns and recognize that
that we do have a problem with with drug use
and with these deaths, and it's very concerning. And so
I can't speak to what my my party members did before,

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but I can say that that I'm very concerned and
want to do everything that we can to to stop
these drug deaths.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Uh. If you guys want to free flow on that,
you can, but go ahead.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I appreciate I will. I just, I mean, and I
appreciate that. And you're right, we don't know everything, but
I do. I just I really want I think it's
important answer that question. I mean, do you support your
party the Democrat Party in Colorado decriminalized fentanyl use and
fentanyl possessions.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
So do you do you support that?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I would say that I need I can't comment on
on the law specifically that that I did not pass,
and so I'm gonna I'm gonna do uh. I'm going
to say that that we need to be careful. I'm
not gonna necessarily come in and roll back and and
fight back on all the laws that were passed previously.

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I'm going to examine what's before me and look at
look at look at what my options are when the
time comes.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Jelaire your question for Dan Wood. Jelair McMillan asking Dan
Woogan question.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Now, Yeah, So I'm really concerned learned about our political
climate and how and fewer people have friends and family
members with different political beliefs. As I mentioned earlier, my
husband is a registered Republican and his perspective has really
helped to balance mine as I've run for this office. So, Dan,
I was wondering if you could talk about any friendships

(22:19):
or family relationships that you have with Democrats and how
those have informed your campaign.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Absolutely no longer a friendship relationship, but both my grandfathers
are two of my idols. One fought in World War Two.
One was a mayor in a small town and actually
helped us with the Adam Baum And they were both Democrats.
And those are two men that I look up to
as much, if not more than anyone in my lifetime.

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And I do believe in this day and age, especially now,
it's not even about party affiliation. I'm seeing and hearing
from voters. They care about common sense laws and regulation.
It's not about party anymore. It's just common sense, you know.
I mean, of course I have family members that are Democrats.
I think we all have a mix. My sister's a Democrat.

(23:08):
There's a lot of my relatives on my mom's side
are I love them all that we have open discussions
and we can agree to disagree. So and not only that,
I was a state legislator who worked across the aisle,
worked across with members of the Democrat party to get
laws passed. So I feel very comfortable in working with
both sides. And again my time as a trustee and erie,

(23:29):
which has a big part of Boulder County in it,
I had to learn quickly and learn how to listen
and learn how to understand and take consideration from everyone, Democrats, Republicans,
and independent voters. So I feel very capable and my
history shows that I've been able to do that.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Can you follow up? If not, let's go back Dan.
Believe your question is up next for Jelair McMillan. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
I'm wondering, and I mentioned this in my opening. You know,
we have this Taxpayer Bill of Rights TABOR as most
people know it to be called, and and a picky
on your party. You you're new, So your party, it seems,
year after year, tries to find a way to take
those excessive dollars that should be going back to us
US taxpayers to use as we see fit. They keep

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trying to find a way to use those funds on
other objects or whatever the government wants to do with it.
So I'm wondering there again, do you support the Democrat
Party in Colorado's desire to use those tax funds that are,
you know, really the people's funds. Do you support that
those get used for other things? Or do you support
TABOR as it was set up that those funds that

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are in excess of a certain dollar mount should go
back to us the taxpayers. So we can spend it,
save it, invest it the way we want.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, that's a great question. I think TABOR is is
what the third rail in Colorado politics one of those
things that is hard to talk about, but I think
is really necessary to talk about. Because TABOR was created
to very importantly give Colorado say in how their tax
dollars are used and to prevent government from growing too

(25:05):
rapidly and widely, two things that I think are really
valuable and important. It's also in some ways created some
barriers to letting government and legislators be nimble and be
able to respond to certain situations. And so I think
that there are rooms to there's room to address certain things.

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For one example, as I mentioned before, education is currently
funded at nineteen eighty nine levels. We know that that's
not good enough in twenty twenty four, that the rates
the TABOR formulas are complicated, but they're mainly based on
inflation and like the consumer price index, and that those
levels rise well. The trouble is that education costs tend

(25:48):
to rise at a different rate than consumer costs rise,
and so I would be in favor of looking at
some of the TABOR formulas seeing if there are ways
that we need to address them to accommodate the actual
rise in costs. But I do recognize that we need
to make sure that we continued with our balanced budget.
I run a business. We've never gone into debt. We've

(26:10):
been able to use capital and become profitable. We've just
hired our fifth employee this summer, and so I'm finding
that being able to use those principles that I have
of living within means and using funds responsibly are how
I will approach legislating as well, and finding ways to
be able to fund the things that are important, like

(26:32):
education without letting you know, government spending go go over
the top.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Before we run short on time, Julia, I want to
make sure you get a chance, you get one more question.
We got about a couple of minutes here, so rather
than Dan doing a follow up, I know you probably
had something to say, but I want to make sure
each of you get to ask each other the same
amount of questions. So, Julia, one more question for Dan Bog. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
So in our last debate, which we had on a
different station last week, I asked you about your position
on reproductive rights, and since that debate, Former First Lady
Lady Milania Trump has expressed her belief that a woman's
right to choose is fundamental, and Senator jd Vance said
that your party has got to do a better job
of earning back trust on the issue of reproductive rights. So,

(27:11):
with even prominent members of your party saying that abortion
rights are important, I'm curious how you will be voting
on this November's ballot measure to secure abortion rights in
the Colorado Constitution.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Thank you, yep. And as I answered before, it is
a topic we need to keep discussing. It's an important topic,
and I'd made it very clear and I'll make it
clear again. I didn't support the current law in Colorado
because I don't believe in abortion right up until birth.
I think that's a very extreme stance. And frankly, most

(27:44):
of Coloradoes agree, even the ones that agree with some
form of abortion, they do not agree that it should
be up until the child is born. So the other
thing is I support the state's rights. Is the states
should have authority over this, and in the reality is
the states created the federal government, and the states are
the ones that should get to choose. So I do

(28:06):
support it in Colorado, and we have the law we
have and that law is not changing anytime soon possibly ever.
So again, I support that very strongly as someone who
loves the Constitution and our articles of independence. This is
a state's right to make this decision, and this is
the decision Colorado has made.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Like Dan did the last question, I'm sure you have
some follow up as well, but we're going to hit
a timer here. If we have time after this break,
I'll let you guys kind of expand your final statements
to go back and forth. But I wanted to make
sure both of you got the same number of questions.
We're gonna take the final break of the program. Jill
Aair McMillan is in the studio. Dan Wug is in
the studio. The last two questions, both of them had
follow up to their questions, and I wanted to be

(28:50):
fair and get everybody in. So everybody hold tight Laky
on the radio, Dan Wu jel Aiir McMillan in the studio,
six hundred k col follow up with each other.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
All right. We got a final segment here with the debate.
By the way, all the interviews this radio debate will
be up at Jimmy Lakey dot com. And just a
little bit after the show and now share that on
my social media as well, and I'm sure Dan Wogan,
Jilaire McMillan will maybe Also it's Jimmy Lakey dot com.
If you missed any part of this debate House District
nineteen Democrat Republican in the studio with me, and don't

(29:46):
forget to check out the website for all the interviews
you might miss on the show, including this. With this
debate one hour long. Real quick, I want to know,
both of you asked each other questions and you both
wanted to follow up, but for the sake of fairness,
I cut you both no follow up so that you
both cauld ask the state number of questions. So we're
going to extend our opening statements here of closing statements.
Dan you're gonna get to go first addressing and think

(30:06):
you want, and then Jilair mcmallan, we'll get to wrap
it up. And Dan, you got abound to a ninety
minutes and two minutes.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Jilai, I you know, obviously we just have closing statements.
I don't know if you want to address your support
for abortion that I mean, do you support it up
until birth? And you know, i'd certainly I will, and
I will answer a little bit of yours that ballot
measure is something that opens the door to taxpayer funding
of abortion. I absolutely don't agree with that. It should

(30:33):
not be the taxpayers paying for abortion. So if that's
the case, if that's in the measure, I.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Am voting no.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, I just I want to you know, I appreciate
everyone listening. I do think there are stark differences. I
do have. Like I said, I have a record, I've
worked across the aisle, and I will certainly focus on
the things I mentioned. I'm going to focus on keeping tabor.
I'm keeping it as it was that those funds go
back to the taxpayers. After all, they know how to
spend the money. I know to save it, they know

(31:00):
to invest it. I'm gonna be hard on crime. I mean,
we have to have that and even to have a
good economy and to attract businesses, we have to be
strong on crime. And we have to get the lower
taxes and you know, get less regulation on businesses across
the state. That will help reduce inflation. So I'm going
to help insure a safe and affordable Colorado. I have
kids growing up here. That's what everyone wants. So please

(31:24):
check out my website woog for HD nineteen dot com
if you can help. I'd love your help. We have
a great campaign going. And uh yeah, I just I
think there's concern and there's clear differences. I mean, I
don't know. You mentioned you don't really know a sanctuary
state is. So I just think there's a lot of
things and again, with all due respect, that that differentiates.

(31:45):
So thank you for your time.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Listeners, woog for HD nineteen. Julia McMillan, you get the
final segment here, the final context of the final statement.
Go ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
So, I'm a mother of four, and I understand the
sacrifice that you take on when you choose to raise
a child, and I believe that the decision about when
to have a child is one that a woman should
be able to make with her partner, her doctor, and
her God as applicable. I also recognize that access to
reproductive health care is sometimes one of life or death.
When we're talking about abortions up until the time of birth.

(32:15):
It's about two percent of all abortions, and those women
are usually going home to empty cribs and empty nurseries.
It's because of a severe complication and not because they
don't want that baby. And so I want to be
clear about that, and that abortion care is often healthcare
and that's why it should be protected. But I just
want to point out that a lot of the issues

(32:36):
that are facing the district and the state are nonpartisan
and they affect us all things from affordable housing, the
need for better mass transit, and good funding for schools.
I believe that my experience thoughtfully examining issues and talking
to people from across the political spectrum in my career
and in my campaign will help voter see that I'm
the best representative for District nineteen. I'm a hard worker

(32:58):
and a natural leader, and I'll seek solutions outside of
a partisan bubble. So I want people to know that
I will represent all of the residents of District nineteen,
and so to everyone listening, even if you don't normally
vote for a Democrat, I'm asking you to look at
my record of nonpartisan service and consider doing something different
this year. Let's bring positivity to politics. You can learn

(33:19):
more about me at jelairefourco dot com, or feel free
to give me a caller text at seven two zero
four nine. To one one four eight zero. I'm Jela McMillan,
and I'm asking for your vote to build a better
Colorado together.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
All right, that wraps it up, my friends. We're going
to wind it down this web to This interview between
Jelaia McMillan Dan Woog went fast, but that was in
one hour conversation. I know it skim the surface. A
lot more things we could to dove into, but please
let ABC and CBS know that's how you do a debate.
You don't get involved. You just asked the questions and
let the candidates talk, and you don't debate the candidates.

(33:55):
So thank you Voth for coming in. I hope people
find your website. If you miss part of the interview
or the discussion, go to Jimmy Lakey dot com. This
interview will be up there. Share it out past the
word and let everybody know the choices they have in
House District nineteen. All Right, ladies and gentlemen, we're going
to take take a twenty hour break and I'm going
to go rest my weary head after this long and

(34:17):
exhausting day of talking on the radio. Don't forget Jimmy
Lakey dot com. Don't forget. My charity work is at
Riverspromise dot org. And we will be back here tomorrow
morning on the radio program and we'll talk about Hurricane
Milton headed towards the coast of Florida, and we'll continue
to talk about the presidential election and also some more
of the state election that that ballot's going to be

(34:37):
hitting in the state of Colorado. A lot of down
ballot issues. I want you to be well versed in them.
You heard the talk about the abortion amendment or proposition
on there. You need to be well versed in that
to make your right decision. Hunting and mounting mountain lions.
Here is a smorgas board on that ballot and if
you stick it right here, I tell you I'll keep
you updated on all of that on the ballot in

(34:58):
the state of Colorado. All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's
been a pleasure. Thanks to Dan Woo. Thanks for coming
into the wonderful confines of my little studio here, the
humble abode of Jimmy Lakey and the Jimmy Lakey Show.
Until we meet again. I mean this from the bottom
of my heart. Thanks for listening. God bless you, God
bless America, Jimmy Lakey Peace, I'm out of here.
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