Astros Lose Weekend Series, Possible Lineup Changes, Evaluating Joe Espada

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Good morning everybody. Hope you hada great weekend. Mind sucked kind
of. I'll get into the details. Has some developments. What we got
NFL Draft week, Chris Gordon.There will be a lot of mocks coming

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out. We would discuss that.I saw some seven round mocks coming up.
We get a uniform unveiling. Youand I have not talked a lot
about uniforms going there. I wantto see where you are on that as
well. Uh NBA playoffs are underway. And then the thing that has everybody
talking in the city, the mostimportant thing. The Houston Astros are not

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good at baseball, Chris Gordon.It's been a long time since we've said
that around these parts. They're notgood at winning. Oh, here you
go, going to stop this wentthrough three minutes into the damn show and
you already got your damn orange andblue glasses on going to that. They're
not winning games, right, They'renot good at It's Friday Night, a

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good game. Tell me why giveit kull my music? Kill my guy.
I'm glad. Oh we can't dothat. It's right. We got
some technicalitionues. That's why you knowwhy Friday was good because my guy,
the guy y'all said you were readyto move on from a year ago.
My guy that for the money.How yeah, we don't need JV he's

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aged. Yeah, Friday Night thescene, National's Park, Northeast d C.
I know it. Well, youget off the Orange metro line and
it's right there. What did Itell you what Berlanda was gonna do?
I called for it, going itand he went out there better than he
was amazing. He was amazing.Your ads down, sir, not one,

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not two, not three. Hegave me six innings. He pitched
up bleeping gam And how did theteam respond going it? They won a
ball game? Well, Josh Hateralmost blew it. Josh Hater tried to
give it away. I mean thisis this is getting for two of the
best, two guys who've been twoof the best closers in baseball the last

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five years in Josh Hader, RyanPresley, and you got both of them
on your team, and both ofthem are struggling like ass it's I don't
get it. I don't get it. Presley's making good money, Josh Hater's
making some of the best money inbaseball. How are both guys coming in

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coming in clean innings? Like youhave a clean slate. Just get three
outs, brother, and it's likeit's work man. And and look to
Hater's credit, he got through it. You gave up a run, got
guys on, but he got throughit on Friday night, he got the
safe. On Saturday, Ryan Presley, you have a four to two lead,
my man in the ninth in andget three outs, Oh Presley and

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it's it's first batter catcher's interference,it's next batter double runners at second and
third, it's next batter two RBIsingle. It was just like, dude,
what is going on here? Youjust said it. This is where
Astro's baseball is in twenty twenty four, which is why I say they're bad
at baseball. Twenty seventeen ain't gota damn thing to do. What's going
on right now. Twenty twenty twohas nothing to do with what's going on

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right now. Game seven of theAlcs ain't got a damn thing to do
with a baseball team that is thisbad. They're seven and sixteen, Gordon.
Only the White Sox are worse thanthem in the al Again, the
record their nines is Gordy. Theygot damn catches interference today, they got
base runners, damn foods Today,you got foods that won't hit. They

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had four hits yesterday by three dudes. Then you get the back end of
the rotation, the relief, themiddle relief, because start el Ray is
one of the worst in baseball.Sometimes guys want a bat, sometimes ain't
no time to hit it. Yougot fielding errors, you got throwing errors.
Around the damn team. It isconsistently bad baseball. But what I'm
saying is they were Ryan Prestley meltdownaway from taking two out of three.

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See you always look because because lookat Saturday, Rono Blanco gave you six
innings of two run ball. Itwasn't it wasn't excellent, but that was
good baseball. Ronald Taroll gives youa shoutout all these like they get nine
hits on the day, Kyle Tuckeris two for four drives and two runs.
Like they played well enough. Itwas one guy didn't show up to
the park on Saturday to do hisjob, and you lose the freaking game.

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But it's a different guy. It'sa different thing. It's base pass,
it's it's all this bleak. Getthe dumb button ready because I think
I'm gonna lose it. It's adifferent thing every time I watched this team.
And I'm frustrated because I hold thatHouston Astro should be held to a
championship standard, and when you playsubstandard, I have the right to come

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on here and address what the peopleare telling me on social media and when
they call into the tenth in theshow and I'm listening to all this stuff.
I'm in the grocery store. I'mtalking to people with Astros gears on,
Astro gear on, and they're allsaying the same thing. Stand,
make it make sense? What thehell is going on? Well? It
doesn't make sense. That's the problemis. It's do you know yesterday that
they get blank six nothing by agod named Mitchell Parker from the National It

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was his first career start in NationalPark. But like seven of the nine
hardest hit balls came from the Astros. It just found space? Is this
there? All their RBI singles werelittle bloops, little seventy miles per hour
bloops that just found space. Theyfound sometimes baseball baseball, No, we're
not. We're not. It's weirdsometimes. No, you know what baseball
is going? Baseball? You knowwhat that is translation for? That's that
one in one sixty two b s. I'll be trying to see them,

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y'all. If not one on one, currently seven is sixteen and on on
April twenty second, I'm here totell you the season isn't over. It's
still over one hundred something games.They could still turn this thing around.
Show me why do I say thatbecause we saw the Washington Nationals do it.
Because we've seen the Atlanta Braves doit. We've seen teams get off
two horrible starts and then turn itaround. This is bad. That's bad.

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Name one thing that is consistently ata championship level on that team right
now. Name one. Pitching's beengood enough. Stop a couple of stop
you turned out the one hundred Brownstarting Kansas City and the bad way outing.
Okay, take out the run nail, take out his note, every
and what every one of all ofother runnabuls. He's been one of the
bright jab Every outing he's had hasbeen good Christian hobby. It wasn't good

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enough, but he's been great.Did this team win? U asked,
what's what's it good? This teamwin? Didn't know? It has not?
It has baseball people starting pitching.The starting pitcher has not the starting
pitcher. E r Ra came intothe weekend over because pecause Hunter Brown gave
up nine runs in a two thirdsof an inning in Kainsas City. Went
out that one day out that wasthe anominally stop this I call yesterday,

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tell me one out the first inning? I said, it was one outing
namely another story pitcher couldn't get outthe first inning. Hell your boy,
uh, Blair Henley, that's theexception that that one. I mean,
that's the exception, Blair Henley.Uh So, Look, I'm not gonna
bag on the team unfairly. EverythingI'm saying, all my criticism is fair

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and just. I open it upto the people. Seven one three,
two one two five seven ninety.Help me understand where you guys are.
I don't disagree with Gordy in thatI still believe this team is talented enough
to make the postseason win a division. I'm not there. Well, I

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think they still can creep in oneof the playoffs. The rest of the
team to your division are doing theirbest to keep that door open. Let's
take a peak at this division,guy in time, because here's the thing,
Stan, if they were in,if they were the Miami Marlins are
one game worse than the Astros.They are six and seventeen, but they
play in the NL East, wherethe Atlanta Braves and Philadelphia Phillies both have
fourteen wins, the Mets have twelveand the Nats have ten. The Miami

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Martlins, as of today, arenine and a half games out of first
place, the Astros playing the AlWest, where the Rangers, because they
beat their braves last night, finallygot above five hundred. They're twelve and
eleven. The Marriagers are eleven andeleven. The Astros, as bad as
it's been, are still only fivegames out of the division lead in the
AL West. So the rest ofyour division is doing you a favor.

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You're still in this thing, butman, you need some things to start
to go your way, and thingsis just this is like one of those
the damn run different renial is minustwenty eight. What are we talking about?
You know, when you have abad day and then things just like
all throughout your day, things,everything that could go wrong goes wrong.
That's what it's been for the Aswersso far. It's not that you yourself
are having just a missing it's justeverything is going against you. And eventually

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one day you're gonna have that daywhere everything goes your way and you're like,
God, I just found one hundreddollars bill on the ground. Man,
everything's coming up roses today. Eventuallythat's gonna start to happen. Balls
will find holes, runs will startto be scored. Hater will be shut
down like he's historically been. Likeall things will start to go in your
favorite But man, anything that couldgo wrong to these first thirty. You
know, this first month of baseballis going wrong. Let's go to the

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phone line. Let's take a callbefore we wrap up this segment. James
and alb a good morning. Welcomein the next up. Good morning,
sir, Thank you gentlemen for exceptingmy call. Listen, last year,
I don't understand it because they wasready to run us the bake out out
of Houston on the first thing smoking. They wanted Modernado out of town.

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That may be the whole situation.Modernado. They wanted dusted, the change
the lineup and to put Yanna Dasin Modernado spot. So we got what
everybody wants. Way better to playthan all. Okay, what about controlling
the pitching? What about controlling thepitching? Hurt about let me okay,

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last year, you will always seeMadonado look over to the bullpen, I
mean look over to the dug outbefore he gave the picture indication of what
type of pitching if you watch,if you watch that, So I wanted
to know who was given signals whowas relaying signals somebody there's a different culture
that is not being done and picturesare getting lit up. They getting I

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mean, deve understand this basically thesame team that was under dust debate,
because it's the same team. Theywent seven games to the l s here
I mean, and they coacher upgradedthe back end of the bullpen with one
of the best closers. And whatI'm like you, mister Northle, what
can you make sense of it?Somebody something ain't right. I agree with

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you, James and Alvin, youknow what. I've heard that too over
the weekend. I think that wasSaturday night. I was trying to watch
the fight and a three year oldhad a hot wheel up my butt,
so I wouldn't go to bed.I couldn't watch the fight, so I
watched Astros baseball. That I'm tryingto deal with three year old bum.
Line is this conversation about the managementof this team has come into question.

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What are your thoughts on what JoeSpotted is doing with one of the most
talented lineups in all of baseball.We take more phone calls. We continue
talking to Astros your homer Astros Baseballto let the legendary KB and me.
Who's got next, what's coming next? What do we do next? And

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who's gotta take it to the nextlevel? Back to Staton Northfleets and Chris
Gordy, this is next up onSports Talk seven ninety. No, No,
there's no doubt about it. Youknow, we need to start playing
better. I don't think that's asecret, and I think we try.

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You know, these teams don't wantto lose serious. We're not trying to
lose serious. We're just trying toWe are just gonna We need to start
playing better, for sure. That'sthe skip over that mini Ma Park Joe
A, Spana. Following a twogame losing streak, the Astros have now
won one game in their last one, two three in their last six.

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Gordy, Yeah, but the Wednesdaygame against the Braves, you'll lose extra
inning. Should have won that one. The extra in a game on Saturday,
you went into the ninth one atforty two lead, you you lose
that one. It's there's a coupleof these out there saying that you should
have won. It's your your bigmoney guys coming out of the bull Your

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closers aren't getting it done. Sixblown saves already in seasons that is April
twenty second, Like what are wedoing here? Though? Like, if
you can't get it done, I'mgonna put somebody else in. Like who
I'm gonna look at the bullpenker?Who wants to get it done? Taylor
Scott, you want to go getthree outs of the ninth it's your job,
man, go get it. BecauseI'm looking at Hater and presently going
I can't trust either of you.Right now, the Astros have had eight

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save opportunities and have now blown sixof them, tying the Marlins for MLB's
worst save percentage. Astros fallow toh to six in one run games,
the worst record in Major League Baseball. The Astros are being outscored thirty to
five in the ninth inning. That'sthe biggest story right there. And that's

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it. And that's a that's atwo tail there, that's a tail that
yes, your high leverage people aren'tgetting it done. And by the way,
a Bray you, he plays withfire, he's putting guys on he
can't get away. But you knowyou're seven eight nine A Bray you,
Presley, Hater have all been notgreat. But what is the other tail
of the tape. You're not scoringlate either, Okay, those guys stink.

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Why don't you pick him up?Why don't you go hit a two
run homer. Why don't you haveto get a three run in and take
them up? They can't score runlate either, So it's like, my
god, Like even Stan when you'replaying, you played great baseball for eight
innings, you can't like you're doingnothing to help your cause after that.

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A bray You, Presley, andHater have a double digit e RA just
those three. The Astros bullpen isa bottom five e RA in all of
baseball. Oh, I know westill need to discuss Jose A bray You.
I'm gonna get there for right nowthough, Joe A Spot His name
has come up more and more andmore. And as I go to the

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phone lines now seven one, three, two two five seven ninety George Potter
and bless his heart, he seemslike a really cool guy. Jeorge Spott
is giving me substitute teacher vibes.I am not hearing and feeling the email.
Doker was here for five minutes,and we knew he's running things.
Demico Rimes was here for five minutesand we knew he's running the show.

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George Potter and I get it.Not everybody has the same temperament. But
these players are not responding. Andthere's only one major shift from last year
to this year. Is the dudewearing the jersey we call him Skipper.
Now. I ain't getting into allthe other stuff. And we can talk
about Josh hay to be on therocks and Presley not being comfortable where he

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is. We can get all thisstuff, but the conversation has come up.
I'm not ready to pull the plugon joej just yet, or we
even got a month or two hiscoaching. Great, we get into June
July, we might have to havea different comings, okay, but my
question is what is he doing tonot And what I'm saying to you is
in sports, it's not always thatyou're doing something wrong, it's the players

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aren't responding. They need a newfigurehead, a new voice. Because I
brought this up last week, andyou and I talked about this as well.
I do not believe the Astros wouldhave this record seven and sixteen,
one of the worst teams in theAL, if Dusty Bank was still the
manager. I don't believe that nowas many people as I don't know what
Dusty would be doing differently right now. Maybe he's buying banana pudding. Maybe

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it's the guys respond differently because theydon't want to let Dusty down. Maybe
it's sometimes on the road trips anda bottle of wine. I don't know.
All I know is the guys outthere that go play every day aren't
responding. Has quarantine He been solidin moments. Sure you mentioned Montero.
He's been cool, right Al Tuveyand he's not on the base pass down

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two baint normally gives me something.But collectively this has been a disaster this
year. So is he needed togo like in the locker room and throw
the clubhouse and throw a chair.I don't know, but I told you
this was coming to y'all told meI didn't know baseball, not you specifically,
Gordon, but y'all told me Idon't know baseball. I said,
they're about to have a damn teammeeting. What happened was reported. What

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happened on Wednesday last week. JustinBurdlander got in there and said, wait
a damn minute. He had tolook out that team as performing nobody in
the right damn mind. That's achievedwhat the two Bay and Berlander and guys
like they have achieved. They gotone win after that and then they lost
two more. So now I'm justteam had to be said JD. When

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I damn did his damn job,and when everybody else starts doing their damn
job and carrying their weight, thisdate won't look like that. Well,
here's the other thing about Saurday too, is I don't even want to put
it all on pressly, although itreally is. He had a four to
two league the ninth Go do yourdamn job, you win the game.
But how many times down the stretchof that game they kept getting runners on
and not. It could have beena five to two lead, It could

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have been a six to two lead, It could have been a seven to
two lead. If any of thoseother guys pulls their weight and drives in
another run you got. You know, you're not handing your your your second
closer a two run lead. You'reheaving him hitting him a four run lead.
Like, how many more days arewe gonna have that conversation? You
and I have this exact conversation everyday. They're not scoring. Yeah.
I mean, the bottom line isyou look at the offense and this season,

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when they're scoring four runs or less, they're not winning those games.
Win they're scoring eight runs or more, they're winning those games. And it's
not it's not that they're hitting.The ops is one of the best in
the majors as a team. Thebottom Yeah, And that's where I go
back to. I go old school, if I got to. I mean,
I know it's the lineup with TuckerAlvarez Bregman, the biggest of big

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boppers, but I'm looking at himgoing, if you ain't gonna drive this
damn or if you're gonna pop outagain, put your put your put your
damn butt bat out there, andbutter Runner over do something to manufacture run
because you can't you're not doing itlike you get run. You get somebody
HiT's a leadoff double and they don'tscore. That's absolute And Sammy find a

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way to get him the third andput a ball in the in the in
the air, sacrifice, sacrifice themin and get the damn run in like
this is stupid. Tom in Downtownfloors. George, You're next up,
great start, guys, love theshow. Hey, I'm gonna talk about
a spotter, but I want toget the rest of the team out of
the way as quickly as I can. This is the last place team.

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I'm not going to say right now, because you can't say right now.
You got to say they're just abad club. They're making a lot of
mistakes on the field as well,so we could look at every aspect of
this team and say they're a lastplace club. Now. I expect more
and I don't know what's going tohave to happen. I love that JV
came back and gave them the bumpI spoke of when I when I talked

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to you guys last week. Butyou can't just be one guy. I
mean, I know things are goingbad, and I know they're a better
club. But here that's what I'dlike to see them do, and this
would be I think something that wouldsee something right away. Yann or Diez
should never be on first base.Let him be the catcher, handle the
pitchers and at DH first base shouldbe John Singleton and your backup catcher.

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Make it work. If you haveto use a bray you you have to
use them. But they got toget Yana just to hit and run behind
the plate. That's the first thing. Second thing, consider putting Jeremy Paynia
back in the number two spot.He's earned it. Get Gregman out of
there. Bregman's got to go downin the lineup. You look at how

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two day obviously to lead off gowith, you know, Jeremy paying the
second. Put Alvarez back in thenumber three spot. He will get up
plenty of times in the first inning. And you know what, if those
three guys can't get on base,Tucker will get up. That's four guys
that should be able to come tothat in the first base in the first
inning than anything else after that.Janner Diaz maybe if you want to put

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Bregman in, but one of yourother outfielders. If you're if you're putting
Jake Myers in the lineup, youneed to put Dubon in more often than
Jake Myers. He's a better player. I can play several SILFA positions.
Okay, so again, get getyan here. Yanner could lead the league
in hitting. He's focusing in toomany areas. It's got to accept him.

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He's a second year player. Givehim the solid backup in the in
the in the bullpen behind the plate. He catched. He caught a great
game the other night when Jason Berlanderpitched. And I'm telling you they can't
get out of this, but theygot to get a solid lineup going.
I appreciate you Tom in Downtown.I know you have more to go there.

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Brother, I had to cut youbecause we're up against it. We'll
keep taking phone calls. Renfro KevinREVKJ You in next up, your home
of the strolls, KB and me. Next up. Continue on your computer,
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Yeah, here's Parker, the twentyfour year old, swinging in a
mess another split fingered fastball. Theyjust can't zoned in on Mitchell Parker today.
Seven strikeouts now for the young lefthander, two away now, two
got him upstairs. Strike three MitchellParker, eight strikeouts through seven innings.

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The fact that they did on mywraps. Welcome back in the next up,
New to the station, New tothe show. Thank you for doing
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the free iHeartRadio app is readily available. Mitchell Parker in his second career start,

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first v in front of the National'shome crowd, and they're celebrating at
silly ass twenty nineteen World championship.Who does a five year celebration. It's
ridiculous. There's nobody from that teamreally left on the rustle unbelieva. I'll
play for different teams, I willsay the Mitchell Parker. I had to
look him up, so he wascoming in this season. He was their
twenty first ranked prospects. So thisisn't even like it was like they're,
oh, this is their top pitchingprospect or whatever. But this kid's been

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awesome for a lefty. He cameout last week, made his season debut,
his MLB debut at Dodger Stadium withfive innings a two run ball.
I'm just looking through the box score. His first battery face he struck out
Mooki Betts. Two innings later,he strikes out Shoho Tani so like,
and he got a first dub there. So yes, it. The Astros
bats look like crap against him yesterday. But this kid might actually be pretty

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good. I mean that's good.That's good to us start their career as
anything. You strike it out,striking out shoe Heo, Tani and Mookie
Bets are getting to win a Dodgerstadium and then bowa down the Astros yesterday.
Don't even give up a run.Al two bah for four, first
time the Astro scoreless this season.L t b oh for four. Look
at the top all four, topfour, penya oh for three. Good

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god, yeah, excuse me,Jodann Alvays one for four. Your heavy
hitters. Your top five went onefor nineteen yesterday. Al two Ve,
Jordan Tucker, Bregman, Paena againstsomething named Mitchell Parker. Well something again.
The kid been pretty good that one. Damn uh Spencer like well,

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mark the tape. We'll come backin October and see this kid might win.
Get here if I wouldn't give adamn if it was Cy Young himself.
Al Tuve, Janon, kN Tuckand Bregman have to play better base.
Chaz was the only guy to hithim. He had to. He
had two singles off him. Uhas this game went along, so if
Carotini got one late. But yeah, man, it's to me that's the
like, that's the epitome of theseason. We could talk pitching, we

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could talk back into the bullpen andthis there's been issues everywhere, but to
me, the bottom line is mediocrepitching. Good Offen picks him up.
If this team was doing what theywere supposed to be doing, score runs
night and night out, they dowon a lot more games. Kevin and
Conrad, let's talk stros. Iappreciate your patience. Renfro kJ, I'm
coming to you. Hey, how'sit going. Man? Look you you

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kind of have brought up about managementnow you you I agree with you.
Earlier you made a comment you saidthat, uh, you don't think they
would have this record of desk asa manager, which I agree, Uh,
god down. You know, wellwhat is he gonna do? And
then he went on went on arent and gave a whole list of things
that he would do, but hecouldn't do it. He can't do any

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of that in the radio boot.But see definitely could do all of that
you're talking about if he was inthe in the boot. You know,
it's like, well, no,I didn't. I'm saying, I like
the moves that the moves that Spothas made. I liked them. I
like what he's done. He youknow, Dusty last year was like uh
a bray. You was going overevery night and he still kept him in
what the four or five hole andit was like, dude, move him

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down a spot. Reacted, hemoved. What I'm saying at the at
the end of the day, whendid they end up? Now, what
I'm saying is that certain certain managers, certain managers just like Bosa, every
team that he's going to is winning. It's certain things that a manager can
do when teams are in these typeof situations. They can talk to them

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about you could you see how Destinwhen he would talk, he would go
back about different players that he hadplayed with, different situations, circumstances.
Those are the type of things thata manager can come in to help break
these guys because they certain managers whohave been in there, who have been
there, they can relate to differentsituations that teams are going through. Now,

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you know, it's finder has itstime because it's kind of funny how
people they wanted Dusty out of town. Now all as all the astros were
doing was winning. But when hewas here, you know, it's funny.
It's funny how you don't miss waterto you will wasn't dry. No,
No, all the astronts were doingwas winning. That's all they were
doing was winning, you know whenhe was here. But they didn't walk

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that. They didn't like how theywere winning. But Kja he was he
was button heads. I don't whoeverrun that with Kevin Uh? I can't.
I can't go there because like theywere absolutely butting heads. Dana Brown
and the and the and the analyticsstaff were saying, yan Erdaz needs to
play every day and Dusty was theone going, I trust Maldonado And we

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had to watch Maldonado go over fourevery night with four strikeouts. And it
was so that was like one ofthe moves that was like okay, like
it was butting of heads. Nobodywas like this guy sucks, run him
out of town. It just waslike it felt like it run its it's
run its course. He came in, Dusty did an awesome job lifting his
team up. Uh. They wonthe World Series at twenty two. They
probably should have won, you knowin another year as well. But you

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appreciate hot tip to what he did. But most people around fans and in
the building like agreed, it hadkind of run its course and it was
time to But that doesn't stop thef I appreciate Kevin to Comroe. I
want to get to some motherfuckers.I appreciate you coming. Kevin mentioned Maldonado.
I'm sorry you mentioned Maldy. RonaldSmith hit me up at stan Sportsman,
staying, would the pitching be betterif Maldy was still catching? You

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have to respect Dusty's affinity for Maldyand what he brought to the staff.
He was a pitching coach on thefield. Well, Verlander too. Verlander
wanted Malty catching. Verlander didn't wantMaldonada to go. But at the end
of the day, did or didnot Yonnards catcher Runol block on no hitter
in the season. I mean,it's so May wouldn't have caught that happen.
No, I'm just saying, likethe gripe is, the catchers aren't

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as good as mal Well. I'veseen the catchers are doing their thing.
Janner D's is learning on the job, right, But the only way you
can learn is by playing. Hedidn't get the plague experience he should have
gotten last year. So I did. This was last week they put up
a graphic on one of the networksblock opportunities this season. Yannier Diaz leaves

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the league for whatever that means.Ye, well, they're also they're getting
run on a lot, but theywere also getting run on a lot last
tou Moldonado had been one of thebest defensive catchers in baseball up until last
year. Last year fell off.They were getting stole. You know,
people were still in basis on himlast year too, So you know,
refkj getting here, brother. Iappreciate your patience. No problem, fellas

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real quick man. A couple ofthings. I've said this for years,
so this isn't hindsight. You can'tleave you lose consistently key paces to a
championship roster and not replaced them atit. We still expect to contend consistently.
We haven't fully replaced. In myopinion, Brett Strong, he was
he had an alixer when it cameto the coaching staff that you just don't

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see what the loft run is takinghis place right now. I do have
my issues still with the picture staffobviously the bullpen is atrocious. I do
wonder at times, even as abackup, what role Mond and I have
complay on the team. But whenit comes to a spot us you look
at the Ropson right now, it'scurrently comprised. You have one of the
best hitters in baseball. Bat youo as of right now you have the

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best hitter in the American League,second best hitter in the American League.
Band that you lead up about,but you have a black cold at thirteen.
Alex Berklan hasn't been downs. Favoris the locker room. I tell
you, hey, I'm gonna putyour on whole. Brother. You got

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some interference there. If you guyswant to get him straight in the room,
would you kinda I'll bring him upOn the other side, we're about
to go to break any who Renfroein most city, you'll be first up
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hunger. Lunchtime is so close tillthen show down on more next time.
All right, so let's keep talking. Strolls here on your home of the
Astro Sports Talk seven ninety. StanFleet would be me. Gordy is him,
and we go to the phone lines. Now, my man Renfro in

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most City has been extremely patient.I thank you for that, Chuck in
the Woodlands asl on the south side. I'm coming to you, Renfro,
Floor's George. I tell you whatguy, my man just stole my son
when he was saying about Dusty.I was definitely thinking along the same line.
And when you really realize and believeno baseball and GUARDI should really notice

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your back catcher is one of theimportant, most important guys. Because he
called he's just like a quarterback.He's calling the plays and everything. And
and I think that's what Dusty knewthat we and he didn't really want to
put that idea because he wanted tomake sure he kept his team together.
But you got that have your batcatcher who knows the pictures better than anything.

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And when you got your back catcherthat's up to speed, even though
he was having trouble at the plate, your back catch is one of the
most important persons on the team.And you can tell until this guy learn.
Now, learn the pitchers, learnwhat they like and what they get,
and then you have to also youunderstand that you understand the gripe there

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though this was said last year thatMaldy's clearly last year, John here is
the catcher of the future. That'swhat Dana Brown was stressing to Dusty and
staff, saying, let's get Ynthere that experience now. Instead we went
all last year. Yan are nevercatching Justin Verlander, and so now this
year he's having to learn these guysand it's like, yeah, this is
what we're preaching a year ago.Get the kids feet back, get him

(32:37):
on the same page. And Iagree with you, but that that come
two poles. You got a newhead coach also, but you don't know
how that coach in locker room isgoing and how the playoffs took and fit
into Jo's been here since and Jimmy, he's there's nothing different from what Joe.

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Joe spats just sitting in the bitchhere. Now, there's no difference.
We're not gonna do that. Well, you could say what you want.
I'm saying, I have an issuewith this logic. If you're telling
me there is no difference in managingthis club. I'm saying there's no different
from like the day to day operation. Joe came in and way all right,
guys were changing the con you wilandright now, Think about what you're

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saying. Yes, Dusty is aHall of Fame manager. Has ever stepped
fot the Cup? Go ahead?Yeah, okay, dus is a Hall
of Fame manager, has been successfuleverywhere he's man he because that's what thirty
years without a World Series it tookhim getting this team to finally wants to
host by itself today. This isa guy who was a manager of the

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Giants who consistently underachieved one a hundredgames of the Giants went to the Cups.
I'm not trying to rewrite history herewith Dusty Baker. Dusty Baker is
one of the best skippers in thehistory of base got a lot of wins,
how many postseason, one of thebest managers in the history of the
game. If you're telling me thereis not a drop off between him and
Joe A. Spotta, who's neverbeen a manager a day in his life

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prior to getting this job, thenthat is being qualified for me. What's
he what's the spot of not doingthat Dusty was doing. I'm telling Williams
MANAGERIALPERI so you, honestly, Godand I understand a spot of ran spring
training. I understand that a bottleof spot of VP. I understand the
spot is doing. I'm not tellingyou that a spot is a bomb.
But it is disingenuous to say thereis no difference in Dusty sitting his ass

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right there with a two pick andJoe Spott is sitting there talking about the
back of this. Isn't like aguy that just came in from Milwaukee and
is learning everything. Joe spot hasbeen sitting there doing everything with Dusty.
No, he hasn't been doing everythingwith Dusty because Dusty was a skipper and
they talked to literally the postseason lastyear in Arlington, Joe and Dusty Conson
talked about a reason there is avice president and then there's a president.

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You don't know what the hell you'regonna do until you sit in this.
See I get this with people thatget on my nerves on social media,
Oh staying I can host better thanyou. I know more about sports than
you. Cool, Come get thechair. Gordo's sending right here. Send
him an email until you get thedamn seat. Listen to somebody that's sitting
in this seat. Thank God,really appreciate your passing. Key on on

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Sunday, I heard your message.Got to watch my language. Let's go
to the bone lines. Let's goout here to uh Chuck in the Woodlands
ironically wants to talk from Dana Brown. Get in, Chuck, Yes,
Hi, thanks, I want toqualify everything. I like a spot and
I like Brown and the ACLS summertimechamps will win the division. But if
we're gonna talk about what went wronglosing three middle relievers and spending out money

(35:42):
on hater who obviously excited when wegot them, by the way, that
is questionable and that's not a spotA's fault. That's all I got.
Appreciated, Chuck in the Woodlands.Let's wrap up hearing just a little bit.
We want to talk pitching. Eleveno'clock out al on the south side.
What up? Yeah, man,let me say this. And I've

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just been waiting. I've been watchingbaseball, keeping my blood pressure at the
level because I'm gonna wait till theseason. Then guard it slow down a
little bit. Just think of itlike this, Yal, this is a
business man, and this is whatI've been looking at at the ash Bros.
In the last five years, theyonly team won two World Series.
But my point is this here,when you understand, you try to put

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the nuances of the new hera ofbaseball with the old school rules. What
I mean by that they moved toomany parts around these days for a team
to be a dominant with the sameteam, because you let three good middle
relievers go this year and you signedhaters and then you coming in with you
know, changing lineups. And Idon't care what you say. George Spotty

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is a rookie GM So that's justlike Andrew Andy Reid had a lot of
games won, but guess what,he ain't went till he got to patch
you my homes. So at theend of the day, you know,
Dusty is what it is, andhe is a good boy, and he
did his thing. He got aring. This guy hadn't had a chance
to get a ring, and thatMardinado. These a lot of people calling

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in the IPS ain't never played thegame. Back Catchers don't make pitches.
Pitchers make back catches. So whenyou understand people that don't know what the
back catcher does. He throw thesign between his legs. I'm as a
pitcher, Roger Clemers, I don'tlike that pitch. I get an odd
note and he give me the onefinger for the fastball and I shake my
head. Yeah, that's what I'mgoing with. He put the glove in
the middle of plate and I smokedthe battle. That's how they go.

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So this Mardinado stuff missed me withthat. That don't mean that the guy
doing a good job at the backcatcher spot. That's not the problem.
You got these old set in ways. This coach thinking that the boy was
this last year Breckman needed to goat the back of the line up.
Put somebody else in there. SteveSparks said it earlier. He wants to
die with Breakman. I'm not.I disagree with that. Put somebody up

(37:52):
there. I can hit move Breakmanback, move Pinya up. It's ways
you can do except but when youstuck in your ways, that's what you
get in. I'm lying, Gordondash Roads ain't playing well. It's cool,
man, Just calm down. Everybodyhit a wall at some point.
They don't have it so fucked I'mcool with that man, and I'm done
well. Some days they play well, and then some days they play well

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for nine innings and then Ryan Presleygoes out there and takes a big fat
dump on the mound and you endup losing, and everybody out of the
clubhouse looking around trying to be like, oh man, team loss. Yeah
it really sucked when they all knowtheir brains. Yeah Presley sucked ass.
Yeah, Josh Hater sucked ass.He's why we lost the hand of that
four hits yesterday by three, dude. That yesterday's Yesterday's the exception to what

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many of the losses have been thisyear. Yes, it was the first
time they couldn't get a hit andscore a run. Like the rest of
the year it's been. It's beenconsistently we can't scratch across enough runs.
We scored three and think that's enough. Only the white Socks in the American
League are worse. Worse than whatyou know. The thing that matters the
most. All that matters is thatyou wins losses. All that matters.

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But I can only do so muchif I'm yat ideas three for four at
the play and my closer again haddiary on himself in the ninth inning,
like what can I do? Idon't When I look around this roster,
I struggle to find somebody that cannotbe performing better. Yanna Diaz is going
to go. He's gonna get moregrowing pains. I understand that he's been

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good. I'm cool, We're going. We're all in the yannire Dz business.
Fine, first base, We'll getto that in the next segment.
It is what it is. It'sjust an epic galactic failure at first base
right now. Whether Singleton is inthere or not, fine quarantine. He's
been serviceable. I'm don't have anissue with him. Like, but I

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go around this lineup other than joseAl two bay, Yeah, it's your
big boppers. It's like, wherecan we take the hit home runs this
year? Doesn't it feel like they'reall solo shots. Where's the three run
homer, Where's the Grand Slam?Where's the two run bop? I mean,
it's like they're hitting home runs withnobody on base, and then like,
okay, great, you two solohome runs and it's two nothing.

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And then Javier gets into a jamin the fourth and gives up two runs
suddenly you're tied to too. It'slike you can't, like, how are
we gonna win? Somebody score runs. I totally agree that players play,
and in the game of baseball,the coaching doesn't necessarily isn't necessarily reflected on
a game by game basis. Iunderstand Joe a Spota has certain limitations,

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but I also taught to Jim Craneand Dana Brown, and I go,
this was the selection you chose.I'm not trying to fire Joe a Spotder.
What I am saying is we haveto at the end of the day
my business. You're just saying results, that's that's all that matters. Well,
then our business, Joe. Andif I start having the conversation with
mister Crane, I go in andgo, we gotta we gotta make a

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picture a hitting coach change and apitching coach chance, because clearly what Josh
Miller is saying, what Alexon Tronis saying, it ain't resonating anything.
The players are not responding, andAlan Tron is the main one I'm looking
at because the injury, the pitchinginjuries are one thing. You're gonna get
healthier. Javier fromber Luis Garcio.All those guys will get back. The
hitting though, Stan, what ifwe said every year, Oh, when
l Twove gets back, will befine, when Jordan gets back, will

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be fine. This is They're allhealthy, The whole hitting staff is healthy.
Your lineup is what it should be, and they're not. This is
the This is the craziest stat stand. They are first and all of baseball
hits, two hundred and fourteen hits. Nobody in baseball has more hits than
the Houston Astros. They are ninetysix and they have ninety six runs score.
That's fifteenth. You are literally middleof the pack in run score.

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That tells me right there. You'reawesome at getting dudes on, you are
terrible of getting them home. Andthat's while you're seven and sixteen. Let's
get out of here. Let's regroup, Let's re say. I still want
to talk to Mastros. We willtalk to NFL draft as it is draft
week. I have not spoken withGordy about this. Houston Texas new uniform
as well. Taking your phone callsas we vent. Astros lose a series

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to a very mid Washington Nationals team. Astros off today. They resume action
tomorrow Darren Wrigley versus the Cubs.I'm gonna take one for the team.
Stan, I don't think I drankenough Crawford back over the weekend. I'm
glad to say, probably what theproblem was, or they've been drinking too
much Crawford Back maybe, But butyou know, I tend to think maybe

(42:21):
Crawford buck might make you play alittle bit better. But go get your
hands on to Crawford Bock from herFriends of Her Carbock Browing. You know
it. You love it when yousee it. The t Kila Sunrise stripe
on the packaging. You know itgoes perfectly with Astros baseball and whether they're
playing great, whether they're playing terrible, whatever it is, at least you
know you're enjoying yourself drinking the CrawfordBock from Carbock Brewing. It is a
home run every time. Let's goload up as a Crawford back as they

(42:43):
get ready for this series up inWrigley Crawford Block from Carbock Brewing. Get
some today. Now, what's next? Next step? It's next step,
the next step, Take the nextstep, next step, next stop,
next next. This team want tobe next? This is next up with

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Tad Northfleeten, Chris Gordy, Let'ssee what's next next next, one hour
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(43:29):
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Seven one, three, two twofive seven ninety. So Gordion,
I'm just chilling, kicking it,handling my business weekend, feeling pretty good
and get ready to watch some Astrosbaseball on Sunday. And I see wait,
wait, wait, what Hobbier iswhat Hobbier is being pulled and they're

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going with Hunt and Brown Haunt ofBrown as we now know. Oh and
for him the season. So I'mlike, what the hell is going on
with Hobbyer? Well, yeah,it started as he's been scratched due to
neck discomfort. You're like, oh, okay, maybe he like slept crooked,
woke up in the hotel, hada bad pillow in the hotel.
Oh no, no, no,they stay at the Ritz in the same
regions. Ain't no a bad pillowthat you never know. You know,

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even nice hotels sometimes don't have thebest beds. But you know, maybe
he's slept crooked. So that wasthe first year, like, all right,
this so they're gonna skip him.And then about an hour later,
Joe's Spot of talks and they go, oh, you know, he's been
placed on the IL. So he'son the fifteen day. I l is
Christian Hobbier. And what I thoughtwas most of Lawman Steve Sparks said,

(44:54):
as much they knew on Wednesday,or they knew a couple of days ago.
Maybe it's not Wednesday, but theyknew a few days ago. That
is, neck discomfort wasn't right.So typically you get a neck, you
got some tightness in the back,you can loosen those things up and you
go out and play ball. Gordon, a fifteen day il means he's not

(45:15):
playing for two cycles through. Sonow I'm like, what the bleep is
going on with Verlander going out thereon Friday? And that's what you know?
Lessens this blow if you want tocall it that. The Astros have
now used a league leading twenty threesome say twenty four pitchers. I hadn't

(45:36):
counted, and the thought that Ihad, and I'm gonna get pushed back
probably from Gordon, from many ofyou. That's fine, we had a
conversation. Here is yet another exampleof Dana Brown and Jim Crane not going
to get adequate arms at the beginningof this season. So they should have
known everybody was just gonna get hurt. No, you should have had insurance

(45:57):
in case they did. They staying. They scored zero runs yesterday, Blake
Snell, yesterday, you still don'twin that game. So I don't understand
gonna score you more runs. Idon't. You're the only person that I've
spoken to about the Astros. Allyou believe that the Astros are not doing
is driving in run, correct,That's the that's their biggest problem. But
the other data that everybody else ishaving the conversation about is the pitching.

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This is now six different starters thathad been on the i L this year,
and there's the only one. Theyshould talked to Doc McFly and gotten
into the lore and then found wentFord in tied and found out Howveer and
Frobert Birth are gonna go on Theodds start the season with four O six
on the i L. They startingbehind the gate. They back to mid

(46:39):
se Ry standing not here Neck,never excuse me, not here. You're
fine with those guys. Your middlerelief has been a major problem. And
middle really has been okay, areyou kidding? The back end that's been
bad. The back ends nothing good. The back end has been bad most
recent Taylor Scott hasn't been good.The middle relief has been taxed the start.

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All of this has been an issue. Pitching continues to be an issue.
And you're the only one that won'tget on this train. And I
don't understand how Presley and Hater havebeen terrible and that's that's been good.
That's been one of your biggest problems. You hadn't been good, but he
was gonna be he's expected to bethe seventh and and god no matter what
anyway. But my point is thePress league not being the closest Clearland.

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Tell me how they starting how arethey better with starting pitching on this team
is not deep enough and they cuttheir mouth they are When have we seen
them healthy? Well, they weresupposed to be healthy. I told you
this two months ago. A monthago, I said ago, they knew
Vilator would be hampered. A fewweeks they didn't both and longer than they

(47:44):
said he would. I told youthat, and they lost a lot of
games till then. Now fromber okayboom. After fromber now hobbyer okay boom.
France has been a troicees in momentswe didn't got this has been pretty
good overall. He had that hehad one bad outing against the Rangers,
don't right history, Go look atthe numbers coming coming dot com. Coming
into this series versus the Nationals,the Astros had one of the four worst

(48:08):
r rays of starting pitching in theleague. Correct and take out there was
over find out the fluke Hunter Brownand Blair Henley starts to tell you about
the flues. No hit of Bablancookay, we'll take all those out.
Okay. And if you had betterarms on the front end of this thing,
you had a chance to do somethingabout it again, and they didn't.
You scored. Come it's coming burdensyesterday, it's coming back to Biden

(48:30):
mill South. Your Montgomery pitches,you know, like seven ings and wonder
a ball. Yesterday you lose one. Nothing. So starting pitching to me
is it doesn't make a hill ofbeans difference. This team is insane.
This team can't. Nobody in probaseball believes that you just have decent pitching
and you gonna win a worse series. You're the only one talking. Is
crazy bleed. They did then twentytwo the ash The Ashros didn't have one

(48:52):
of the four worst r rays ofstarting pitching in twenty two. But they're
the same pitching staff. Mccallas issitting over there. They don't, Louise
go I see it, don't pitch. They don't. Herse Okeedy doesn't pitch.
But in three weeks they don't havethe same staff. They don't,
So let's stop living in twenty two. And even if they did have the
same staff, the bottom line islanders. The bottom line is it hadn't been

(49:15):
good enough, and now because youdidn't have adequate insurance. Okay, let's
see how to look at Aaron Gaddyagain. Take a deep breaths back,
correct, God, why are wedoing? Bomber Valdez is probably going to
be back this week, as earlyas this week, Dana Brown said.
Jose air Kety is going to beback with this team sometime in May.
Lives sense every time he comes onit. Brown, doesn't are you crazy?

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You're thinking the organization is telling youthe true We're a week away for
a week away from May, sojose Key is gonna be back at some
point They're gonna start to solidify startingpitching. My problem is Stanley if they
do like they did yesterday and goscore zero runs again, Hobbyer can pitch
seven innings of two run ball andit doesn't make a hill of difference whether
it's Blakesnell v. Hobbs. Importantthat in all of baseball, the most

(49:58):
important element of winning championship lever baseball. And I can't believe you don't see
this. What cost the Astros inthe ALCS They got out pitched. Why
did they get out pitch? Becausethe group up there in Arlington when it
pay for guys that start. Igotta do this again. It's period.
How did they win the three gamesat all? How did they lose the
series? They scored runs out theRangers beat the Ashos? What was because

(50:21):
at home in Game one they losttwo to nothing. Stan, that's not
pitching, that's offense. You didn'tscore runs in Game two you lost five
to four. You had chances toscore runs late, you didn't. You
had the basis with you let Maldonado'sgot there and so MPs passed. So
you mean somebody pitched the baseball thatthe Rangers hit. So maybe if the
pitching was better, the Rangers wouldn'tscore as many runs. How look at

(50:44):
the games they won in Arlington,eight to five, ten to three.
They got offense. It's simple.You rattle off a whole bunch of stats
about how how good this team ishitting the baseball. I'm not disputing hits
run and I get it. Iwas literally getting ready to say driving in
runs is clearly an issue. Alsoclearly an issue is the pitching does not

(51:05):
have the depth, nor are theyhaving the performance. You want to put
a lot of hope is what DanaBrown and Jim Crane are selling you that
they were good with what they got, they worked good with what they had,
and I told you all that tostart the damn season. But I'm
only a football guy. S they'regonna go to the ball the unbelievable.
The Detroit Tigers. Oh my god, the Detroit Tigers. Jesus led by
Who what do you want to goto? The Detroit Tigers are twelve and

(51:28):
ten. They're third in their division, but they're second all of baseball in
an era again, like you canbeat You can have great pitching but not
have great hit. How did theArizona Diamondbacks win the National League and get
in the World Series because they werepitching? The pitching matters, this notion
that pitching doesn't matter. Everybody thatplays baseball, been around the game,

(51:52):
watching the game, knows this.I don't know what the hell you've been
on about this pitching. Larry andMagnolia help me with talk to him since
the Gordy please, Yeah, Idon't. I don't understand it either,
because they've always said good pitching beatsgood hitting every day, But Larry doesn't
good good offense could pick up badpitching like we saw Blair Henley started a
game two weeks ago and he wasgot awful, but they scored runs and

(52:15):
it didn't not and it took therelief having a stat effort eight and two
thirds that hadn't been done. IfVinzon Alvarez would do his Damn Johns nineteen
sevent nobody has done eight and twothirds. If these guys would would score
runs like they're supposed to, thepitching would be nul. Why are we
okay? Go ahead with your point, Larry, I'm sorry, yeah,

(52:35):
yeah, well you know, offensively, I totally agree we're not putting runts
on the board. I think thelineup needs to be changed. I was
never a multi fan. No,I'm not an umbrella fan. I think
I think Maldonado gave his batch toUpbraid when he left the thing. I
wanted to get at though, untilwe can get until we can get some
middle relief, solidify the back end. I'm treating the Astor as like a

(52:58):
high school team. To watch itthrough seven innings and pack up my launch
here and put it in the trunckand go home. Damn. That's all
I my man. Larry might knowyou all right, Gordon, and I
gonna yell each other some more.Johnny and Bobby Rowling, You're next up
your home asshos Baseball KB and me. When Fleet speaks, Houston listens.
Yes, I have a great shotalready a huge grant. I'm liking your

(53:21):
stuff. Statn Or Fleet ten ChrisCordy are next up on Sports Talk seven
ninety. Okay, I don't knowanything other than what you you know,
And I'm just saying if I hadneck discomfort and didn't pitch, I probably
wouldn't made a third of my starts. I mean, you fall asleep on

(53:44):
the plane, you sleep with differentpillows. I mean, in a baseball
season, you have neck discomfort allthe time, and there's times when you
think there's no way I'm gonna beable to pitch. I can't even turn
a quarter of the way toward homeplate and look that way. But you
know, with adrenaline and sweat andall that stuff, you figured it out

(54:04):
and then you deal with it thenext day again. It just it just
works out. Net discomfort usually doesn'tput a guy on a fifteen day day.
I l the great Steve Sparks joinedthe Shawn Salisbury Show. Steve Sparks
on the Astros Radio Network doing somecolor commentary alongside Robert Ford, Sat Northfleet,

(54:25):
Chris Gordon hanging out here in theSports Talk seven ninety studio nestled in
between Uptown Park and River Oaks galleryalocation to be precise, and we continue
talking Astros Baseball. Christian Haavier Scratchon Sunday fifteen Day, I L Steve
Sparks just said, wait a minute, y'all knew this for a few days

(54:46):
and his next still didn't loosen up. Just another example, Jim Crane,
Dana brown Bagwell, whoever the CEOof a minute made who I think is
owned by Toba second luxury tax.Spend that guy's money because it's not your
money. Who cares spend the owner'smoney? Do you want to win or
not? Yeah? He and hashe not won since he stepped foot in

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Houston, Texas? Do you wantto win in twenty twenty four or do
you not? Well? They hadan opportunity these they're good enough to it.
They had an opportunity to add someinsurance with arms two hundred innings in
relief, walked out the door andyou started the season with four on IL
Jim Crame's approached so far since he'son the team has led the two world
serious, right, So I'm gonnaat the end of the day, it

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can't be better. I think hecan Walmart. Walmart makes a lot of
money. You don't think they makeadjustments to their business practices. You sound
insane right now, But going intothe second level of luxury tax, there's
a lot of money for I'm sorry, another arm. I mean, do
you want to win or not?This team would would Blake Snell have this
team winning right now? This teamwould have a better record with Blake Sam
Yeah, this would win. Maybethis team would have a better record with

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George. Oh, come on,get out of here. That's like,
what are you talking about that?I mean, because I've seen I've seen
both of those guys. I'm aboutI'm about to Blanco's better than him,
Christian hobbyers better than him, Bobis better than him. And we've seen
how many of those jut of theJordmut government. I'm done here. I'm
done here. You're just talking aboutnow. I can't even really have a
conversation with you, Bobby and Memorial. I want to say first of all

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that I love you, guys.Passion. It's the main reason I call
today. I think that both ofy'all have some good points. First,
I want to say that the firstgame of the year that I went to
and we had a four lead andfrom Or walk six people and then somebody
else came in and walk three orfour people, I definitely think that had
a lot to do with why theylost. One thing that I do want

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to point out is I think thatour situational hitting is absolutely atrocious. Yes,
I think they could all. Ithink they could all benefit if they
sat in a room and the managersays, Okay, there's a guy on
second base and no else. It'sone all in the eighth inning, What
do you need to do when youcome to the plate, Hit the ball

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to the right side and move therunner to third base. Another situation the
Toronto game when we lost two toone, when Hayter gave up the home
run late in the game, weshould have been up sixth to nothing.
We had first and third and noouts twice, first and third, excuse
me, first and second once andpaying you hit into a double play to
the left. One Well, goback, go back yesterday or Saturday,

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Bobby. I mean that game.It's a four two lead for its presley,
but it should have been six orseven to two. You had so
many more opportunities to add more runs. He didn't do it. That's exactly
right. And I and I justand I and then after the game's over,
you hear Joe espotigoes we didn't execute. We didn't execute. I remember
Morgan Innsburg said that when he playedat USC and that coach had been there

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for forty years. If you hada guy on second base and no outs
and you didn't get him to thirdbase, then you're going to run a
mile the next day. And ifthat was the case, all of our
players except for Dubon, yeah,we'd had a best conditioned team in all
the pro baseball Bobby and Momore.I appreciate the call, my guy.
I heard somebody put it the otherday. They said it with runners at

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second, third or one out andAlex Bergman at the plate. If you
told Brett, like if if JimCrane came to Alex Peregman in that moment
said brag I got a ten yeardeal. If you get a base hit
here, you don't think he's gonnafind a way to get a hit.
Well, whether you say that typeperpoctly, but it's like but whether you
say that their minds when they're atthe plate and they're not coming through like
Bregman knows he's playing for a contractanyway, time minute, time out.

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The ones that kill me is runnerat third, less than two out,
like put one in the air andyou get the run home. Well,
what baffles me too is how manytimes have we seen this year they have
runners in the corners? To yourpoint, put one on the air,
But can we at least advance theguy a second so the guy coming up
behind you has a shot. Idon't. I don't get it. Like
I said, they've had times thisyear they have a leadoff double and they

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don't get that runner home. Simplemath says, first out, ground out,
move that runner the third, nextguy sack fly to right, gets
the run home like simple Johnny onthe north side of the city on it.
Yes, sir, yeah, bringingup ancient history the Rangers series.
The reason we lost that series isbecause Tucker and Pana did not hit at

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all. Yeah, okay, sothe pitch was JV was the only one
that says, but I had aquality. Let me also say, all
four games at home you scored noruns, four runs, two runs,
four runs. On the three gamesin Arlington you scored, you scored eight
runs, ten runs, five runs. I mean that's you allowed to keep

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the other team from scoring runs.It's called they couldn't score runs at home.
But weren't we up in that series? Yeah? You were down?
Oh too? Why Darlington won allthree there and came back here and couldn't
win because you couldn't score runs.You just scored two runs for four runs.
Got to that we were up thoughto games anyway. About the hitting,

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I mean, like you said,our statistical statistically, the hitting has
been working right, it just hasn'tbeen happening to where we're scoring with them.
I think it has a lot todo with like that man just said,
the situational hitting and the batting order. They're moving it around too much.
And another thing, Dubon has toget in there. I know he's
been having a drought, but hehas to get into the starting line upon

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hitting. He's just too good notto be in the lineup. I agree
with you on he's the only guydriving John. Of all the guys he's
batting over six hundred. Could Iinterest you with runners in square positions?
All right, so let's use thesame logic. Maybe I'm crazy jose L
two Bay likely to get on Dubonin the two spot. Do you hate

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that? It's not every day?But I think that there was a time
or two last year they did bathim high. Yeah, he was leading
off when Al two Bay was out. Yeah, So I mean it's it's
look, I'm if I'm Joe Spotted, I'm opening to all ideas. I'm
like, guys, let's talk aboutit because it's not working. Joe spot
a better started his damn ship orit's gonna get away from him now.

(01:00:54):
I'm not pushing him out the doorsone month, Joe, with the players
that you have it or dispose them. The record should be better than what
it is now. All last weeky'all told me staying they're losing the good
teams. I'm like, I don'tgive a damn Ashtrolls are a good team.
Good teams should be beating good teamsmore than they're losing. Two good

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teams staying well when they go toWashington and when they face the Cubs and
when they go to Mexico City versusthe Rockies. It's gonna look better.
They almost got their air swept ifVerland hadn't shown up with his rocket gloves.
And you can't sweat, sir,I go, I go your Brian
pressing meltdown away from taking two outof three and we're feeling a lot better
today. They lost a series tothe Nationals. This is not a good

(01:01:34):
baseball team. Nationals has some goodplaces. I I take CJ Abrams up
my team, tell you that itgets pretty good. They lost to something
named Michael Mitchell Parker. Jesse Winklewas batting like three sixty or something.
Parker beat them yesterday. Mitchell Parkerbeat the Dodgers as well. You want
to go bitch to La fans too. They're doing the same thing. He
struck Tawny at Mokey Betts, Ronaldand the Heights. What up? Uh

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yes, sir, I'm sorry,I couldn't read uh. By the way,
Gordon, can you can you minduh your partner there that Blake Snell
is going through this year with thel I over eleven. That's one of
the guys that that's one of theguys that he was saying the should have
signed the pitching world. Yes,sir, can you tell me the defense

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behind him? Can you tell meif he would have had this team,
how he would have performed. Whatdoes the defense have to do with you
saying the whole that should have signedBlake Nell didn't do enough to get starting
pitching? Is that what you've beensaying a pitcher that has not benefited from

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having Now it's now it's the pitchingindividually that you're targeting. You're not saying
you could disagree with me all youwant about Blake Snail, the bleeping organization
disagreeing it's like you're not You weren'tlistening to that. We have the pitching,
all right, So let mens youthis talk. Let's do this.

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So under your logic, then theTexans should have drafted Bryce Young because all
of you wanted Bryce Young. Well, guess what I said at real time,
I don't know what Bryce wouldn't havebeen here. I don't know what
CJ would have been in Carolina.My point being is the context of your
team makes a huge difference, whetheryou catching pitching, batting, fielding,
running on the basis there, youcan't look at it in a vacuum like

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that. But for the sake ofyour argument you want to, I'll let
you speak your piece. We justclearly disagree. Blake Snail would help this
team. This team would have abetter record if Blake Snail was on the
team period. Well actually, actuallythe Texans are a different subject. But
by the way, I didn't wantthe Texans and draft CJ. Strout.
I never wanted to get uh gotyou from Carolina because that's why wasn't he

(01:03:59):
wasn't tall enough. But anyway,back to the astronast, I don't know
what the solution is because there's toomany problems. You have a situation in
first space with the Brave that hasbeen a disaster in the making since it
happened. He's I mean, canI have your first base in batting under

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one hundred? I mean he's makingMaldonado. People were on mad Nada last
year because it was bad. He'smaking Moldanada look like Babus at this point.
The base running has been comical attimes. Good example was Saturday when
uh Jose al Tuley tried to scorefrom third on the fileball. What was

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that? I mean, just fundamentalstuff like that, And you're starting pitching.
Another starter goes down under mysterious circumstances. I mean, what exactly is
going on and the situational hitting,like you'll have been mentioning, I don't
know. I don't know if there'sthe back end of the rotation which was
supposed to be a strength of thisball club going into the season. You

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said, Wow, a bread youLeslie and hater seven, eight and nine.
Wow, it just hasn't been wowthe whole season long. I appreciate
the go a couple of seat postseasonsago, there was a big storyline because
Mattress Mac and some folks were bringingin some sisters, some nuns over the

(01:05:29):
minute ahead I'm thinking about but theybrought in some nuns and they were all
waving their Astros flags and stuff.I think we need to reach back out
to them. We need to finda Catholic preciation. We need to have
an exorcism of this team. Becausehe's right, like, what if the
hell is going a neck discomfort,elbow soreness? Like what is going on?

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How is every day something catastrophic happeningwith this team? We're like,
there's some bad juju over, there'ssomething going on. Did they did Jim
Grant, did they sign a dealwith the devil. They said, you
will get We'll give you two WorldsTeam World Series championships, but your team
will absolutely just catastrophically drop off thenext year. Like it's it's insane,

(01:06:14):
it is insane. Let's talk moreon the other side, Ty Tang in
League City, You're next up sevenone, three two, seven ninety.
This is next time stop with StanNorthfleet and Chris Gordy during this next stage
on Sports Talk seven ninety. Hehasn't he hasn't waited at all to push

(01:06:38):
guys down in the lineup, takethem out of the lineup. Uh,
he hasn't waited at all. Youknow, he's he's uh moved guys up
in the lineup in I thought itwas slower uh to react the last few
years. So I think Joe's beingpretty reactive with what he's got. That

(01:07:00):
was Steve Sparks, one half ofthe Dynamic Due excuse me with Robert Ford
of the Astros Radio Network. Hewould join d Shawn Salisbury Show this morning.
You can hear that interview in itsentire da at Sports seven ninety dot
com. You can also go tothe free iHeartRadio app. Thank you so
much for listening to going in myselfover the last hour and a half.
We'll take you up until noon.Where you're here, Matt Thomas and Ross

(01:07:21):
vir Real. It looks like Ross'sbass from vacation. I saw him in
there distracting Connoma government. Tighten up, Connor. We got work to do
here. Be playing around with Ross, all right, So Astros, I'm
done with the conversation. By pitching. I know everybody feels the way that
they feel. Fine, go tosome people upset with us on social media
about reminiscing and romanticizing what Dusty Bakerwas to this club. Well we can

(01:07:45):
talk about that now. So I'mlike, all right, Well, I'm
worried about the now, and here'sthe now. The You're going up to
Chicago and the Cubs are a decentteam. The hope is you can get
good enough pitching and scores of runsand get out with two out of three.
But we do have to address what'sgonna happen this weekend. You go
to Mexico City, where the elevationis higher, playing the Colorado Rockies.

(01:08:09):
They're bad. Balls are gonna flyout of the ballpark. Do I you
know what You'll need to decide isdo I want to waste a really good
pitcher who maybe gets rocked. Idon't know. It's gonna be a really
it's gonna be really it just tosee how they handle that. Cubs are
thirteen and nine, second place inthe Central right right, they're not crappy.
They're SI last team on paper,though you're a on paper, you're

(01:08:32):
a better team than that. Onpaper, you're a better team than the
Nationals. The problem is this teamis not playing well. And I don't
know that Joe Spotta knows what todo. He's tinkering with the lineup.
I don't know. He doesn't strikeme as a raw rod type of guy.
Justin Verland already had a team meetinglike there's nothing else to do,

(01:08:55):
you just have to go play.And I get it. There are examples
of teams that have started low andcut it on and I said, this
going to break. Christian Haaveer goesto the fifteen day IL. He's now
the sixth starter to be on theIL this season. If we believe that
he's the last pitcher to go onto IL, then we're mistaken. They're
one hundred and forty Some of oddgames remaining the insurance conversation. From an

(01:09:20):
arm standpoint, there's nothing they coulddo in the back end. Hater's making
his money. They're not doing anythingwith Pressley and a Brave. He is
going to be a Braid, sothey're not moving on from Brian and Braid.
So seven eighty nine locked this firstthrough six. They got to stabilize
this thing and JV can't pitch everyday. I don't know what they're going

(01:09:40):
to do, but I know theybetter do something because this one to one
sixty two and it's still early.Okay. I think there's a chance we
see fromber in this Cup series.He threw thirty innings. Excuse me,
he threw thirty pitches of cauimulation.Yeah, qualifies as a bullpen. So
I uh. They said, ifthey're going to talk to him and if

(01:10:03):
everything seems good, there is achance they throw him out there this week.
So they still have not announced astarter for tomorrow. I think there's
I think it's a fifty to fiftychance we'll hear later today from Bervaldez.
We'll start tomorrow in Chicago. Ihope you're right. Hey, I saw
ty and clear Lake let me gethim next, let me get the tang
and then I get back to toty. I appreciate him holding Tang in

(01:10:24):
League City. What up? Thankyou morning, guys. I'll be fast.
So I've been an astrosam my wholelife, So I don't want to
sound like chicken little here, butwe got a real problem, and it's
throughout the whole organization. But Itell you what. If I'm a player
and I walk into that dugout orthat that locker room, and I see
that lineup, and then I seethat we basically got loops from the bad

(01:10:47):
news. There's playing first base everysingle time. I'm going to be mad.
Then you get out there in thefirst inning and our starting pitcher is
giving up one, two, three, four, nine runs. We're already
in a hole that puts a lotof pressure on the hitting. So it's
a top to bottom thing. ButI'm really getting tired of having to watch
Lupus over there on the first base. That's all I gotta say. Appreciated

(01:11:09):
Tang in League City. Here's aproblem with yesterday. They didn't They didn't
play Jose Braid. You didn't play, you know, and I don't know
if you called it. Dana Brownon the pregame show. I heard that
he said basically kind of. Itwas the first time he insinuated that a
bray you is like, they're gonnagive him some time off here? What
did he say, so, JoseA Brew? This is according to chandeler

(01:11:32):
Roam of the Athletic we got thecut in there. If you want to
play, yeah, let me letme hear this Dana Brown on Jose Brady
while you're looking for that real quick, Jose braid you is four to fifty
nine this season with four singles,seventeen strikeouts and has four eras. Is
that good? He has more errorsthan he does it or as many eras
as he has hits. Let mehear the Dana Brown. If we have

(01:11:54):
Dana Brown on Jose Brady, theysugarcoat this. He's scuffling right now,
and I think he knows it.He's it's wearing on him as well.
I'm sure it's wearing on our battingcoaches, you know, our hitting coaches
down there, and so you knowthe frustration mounts, but ultimately, you
know, hopefully he could turn thisthing around. I think we're gonna have

(01:12:15):
to give him some time off,We're gonna have to you know, maybe
platoon a little bit, you know, just to see if you know,
one of the other guys could gethot, and then give him some time
off and you know, maybe hecatch fire after, you know, a
few days off. But you know, it's tough to watch, you know,
when you see him go through thesestruggles, because you know, he's
such a gamer and he's a competitor, and you look at what he did

(01:12:36):
toward the end of last year,and you know, all of that was
exciting, and then to start offthe way he's starting off now, it's
it's frustrating for him. I guaranteeyou he's frustrated. So but he's got
to climb out of it, youknow, or else, you know,
we're gonna have to mix and match, you know, because it's tough to
keep going in that direction. AppreciateDana Brown right here on your radio home

(01:12:59):
for the ass Rold Sports Talk sevenninety Jose Bray you it's no longer just
at the plate, Gordon, whatis he batting? Wasn't it point zero
six eight? I had it upearlier? What is it? Braid you
at now? A Brella was currentlybatting point zero six eight. He's slugging
point zero eight five. Yeah,you can't keep doing that. And John

(01:13:20):
Singleton at the answer either is justJohn Singleton is playing better than Ray you
and then you get the fielding errors. What the hell was that? Don't
get me Jose Brad, who's beenin the league twenty eight seasons getting a
ball lost in the Shadows's that's thething I was that I always say about
baseball. It's like it's one thingthat struggled to play, but you can
never let that struggle to plate affectyour defense. And Jeremy Thingey talked about

(01:13:44):
that with us was yes, whenhe was struggling with the bat last year,
his mission was still to give youa plus defense. And sure half
you got cause it's fifty percent ofthe game. And it's like, okay,
if you suck on this end,you got to give us at least
this on this end. Well,he's he's casting you both sides. But
if you listen with Dana Brown saidright there, he said, we're going
to give them some time off.So now how long is that is that?

(01:14:05):
This whole week we're going to see, you know, up in Chicago,
We're going to see you know,Singleton and two of those games.
Maybe one of those games, Keroteeneor Donnar Diaz starts at first like that
they're going to do something. ButI mean, the good news is for
Ostros fans, at least for thetime being, where I can see Hose
bring you back. Let's get tieand clear lake. I appreciate his patience.

(01:14:27):
Then we'll get out here, guys. I know we will up against
the time. Ask you to bebrief, brother, but I wanted to
grab you. Hey, guys,real quick listening with some other things I
was going to say, But Iwill be brief. Let me just boil
it down to this. The bottomnine is this. The Astros used to
be. They could they they wereconfident on one side holding up the other.
Pitching would hold up the hitting orvice versa. They do not have

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that. They don't have that anymore. Now you call that motivation, inspiration,
lack of it, or whatever youwant to call it. They don't
have that anymore. Used to bewith somebody he was on base, and
the next guy, the next guy, and they said they'd say, hey,
okay, we got it, wegot it. Man, here he
comes, he's in. He's inthe batter's box. He's coming up.
They don't have that anymore. That'sgone. And let me tell you something

(01:15:12):
else real quick, and I'll letyou go. Whenever I heard what's his
name says, well, let's justlook I got this is crazier nell and
it made me laugh, Like youlook at the back of the guy's baseball
card. That's all. Okay,that did it for me. Okay,
let him have a good year comewhat may. They've had a great run
and one bad one year off off. It ain't gonna hurt them. They'll

(01:15:36):
they'll get it back next year ifthey if they lose it this year,
they'll get it back next year.But when you tell a guy look at
the back of his baseball card,yeah, I got a kick out of
that, no question time. Clearlyonly way. It only works with players
who were once great, like orguys who have historically been great. It
only works with them because you wouldn'ttell somebody I don't know, to take

(01:15:59):
like a crap player like is orI'm sorry Maldonado, Yeah, Maldonado.
I mean, look, we're gonnastick with the I mean, look on
the back of the baseball card.Yeah, I've seen the back of the
baseball card. It sucks his age. Yeah, But like I get what
they're saying, what you know,I get why they say it with the
bray you. But now that's alllast That worked all last season. That
don't work. This season's two twoconsecutive bad seasons. All right, let's

(01:16:21):
lie let's come back and close outthe show. Conrade James, you'll be
next up your home of Astros Baseballas well as your home in Houston sports
sports Talk seven ninety to the next, to the twelve. This is next
up. You kind of hit oneverything I wanted to say with Stan Norfleet
and Chris Gordy on Sports Talk sevenninety. All right, let's get ready

(01:16:43):
to wrap things up here. Inabout seven eight minutes or so, we'll
get you over to Matt Thomas andRoss Viria so they can discuss and try
and come up to a solution ofwhat the bleep is going on with the
Houston Astros. Astros lose the seriesup in Washington over the weekend. Astros
off today. Next time we seethem will be Tuesday in Wrigley Field.
They're in Chicago, obviously for athree game series versus the Cubs. The

(01:17:10):
major news is that was Christian Hobbierhas been added to the fifteen day I
with some next stiffness and dis comfortdis comfort, All right, fine,
he's not gonna be pitching for theAshtros for at least two cycles. Well,
they pre backed it. What aThursday? What fisode? Yeah,

(01:17:30):
I mean he missed that start.He'll listen another one. And but again
it was weird. They said theyknew about it for a couple of days
and so that's why Spencer Gerty wassupposed to go yesterday for sugar Land.
He was scheduled to start, andobviously they pulled him enough time to get
him up there to join the team. But yeah, it's it's gonna be
very interesting. They have not announcedthe starter yet for tomorrow. I think
your two options are either gonna gowith Araghetty or you're gonna get from Bravaldez

(01:17:55):
back and he's gonna go tomorrow.I think that's those are your two options
right now. We'll wait to seewhat that announcement it is. Make sure
you stick right here on Sports Talkseven ninety throughout the course of the day
so that you can get all thebreaking news and update detailed analysis as we
are your home of the Houston Astros, whom, by the way, regardless
of how much heat that I givethem, I'm a fair man when they

(01:18:15):
play well. When certain players playwell, I love on them. But
when you're playing like some trash andwhen you are not up to a championship
level, because that's where I evaluatethe Houston Astros as we all should.
There's an issue many people, judgingby what's on my social media at stand
Sportsman. Of course we are atsports Talk seven ninety. He is at

(01:18:39):
Chris Gordon. There are some peoplesaying the spot not pushing the right buttons.
That has become a concern for somesounds like for Conro James, that
could be the question getting here Jameson your Astros take. Okay, it's
almost at the end, so I'mgoing to be fast. Yes, you
hit the nail on the head.He's not pushing the right buttons. Okay.

(01:19:01):
What I liked about Dusty is hewas old school, and I'm gonna
quote exactly what Dusty would say aboutthis situation and his expectations. Next man
up. That's what he expected thenext man up perform, get it done.
I don't feel this from Joe Aspottam h it is. I appreciate

(01:19:27):
the call, Comrade James. I'mgonna give Joe some grace here. I'm
gonna give him a little latitude.He's one month in to the first time
he's ever been a skipper of aMajor league baseball That didn't make any sense
to me. What is he?What is he not doing? So Dusty
said, next man up? Whatdoes that mean? In other words,
I'm in taking that, Comrade James. Dusty had a way of motivating guys,

(01:19:51):
assuring guys, the psychology of approachingthe play or playing every day.
Dusty just had a naw for beingable to do that, whether it's banana
pudding or what is Jordan like?Jordan likes oxtails and rice. Thus they
talked about it, so they broughtthem food. So that's how. It's
just an example of the connectivity.It's like a good step dad who could

(01:20:13):
bribe by stepdaughter. Part of acoach and this is real, This is
in any sport. Part of whatmakes you a good coach is not just
the overall end result. It's theprocess to get to the result, and
it's being able to manage the individualpersonality and circumstances of your roster. That's
an area that dust the excels JoeSpotder, who knows these guys. He's

(01:20:35):
been around for a minute, sohe knows these dudes. But now you
gotta go do an in game realtime. And for whatever reason, there
are a lot of different ones.The team is not responding to him,
not pushing him out the door,but it's clear they're not playing their best
baseball. Yeah, I just Ithink with the there's a reason why we
call it a manager not a coach. It's it's you're literally here to manage.

(01:20:57):
I mean teams. Teams can losea manager, you're for a suspension
or for a game. A teamcan still show effort and win. It's
any team can also hire the wrongguy and it completely de reals the organization.
I just how does that happen inbaseball? Though, like I think
it's happened a half those boat Porterwas there long enough to unpack his bags
and they put them out. Butboth Porter had a terrible team. I'm
just a bunchet. You have oneexample. So no, it's it's about

(01:21:21):
the players. It's the same Worldseries roster, go perform like it.
Go play like a Kyle Tucker,Marvin and Mattagory. What's up man?
Hey real quick, guys. Yeah, you know I was Joe. You
know, it doesn't hurt. Youdon't have to throw chairs and stuff like
I told Chris yessay. But tosend somebody down, it doesn't matter what

(01:21:42):
your name is, with Presley orwhatever to work on or one of these
sports basements, say we're going tosend you down and let you, you
know, set out in carpers fora while, you know, and then
get a little sand in your eyesand see how you feel in a couple
of weeks, you know. Butthe bottom line is, if I'm if
I'm Jim Crane, I want toknow what Dana Brown, get all my
strength and conditioning people, get allmy trainers. I want to know why

(01:22:03):
is it that coming out of springtraining that not one, not two,
not three, not four, butbasically everybody at some point are hanging out
over the Doug doug out just staringout, laughing, eating something out of
seat and wearing out my cushion andrailing because they weren't ready to start a
season. That they're all not one, but all of them basically hurt.

(01:22:23):
What's going on with my strength andcondition to have? Where have we put
too much you know, effort andemphasis and commercials and wine testing, gators
or whatever we're doing here and notgetting ready, you know, to work
when we got two bay that's stillgoing through the same regimen that JJ Watt
used to prepare for a to fitgame. But I mean, at what
point do you ask? Because Irecall I come from an old school where

(01:22:45):
j R. Richards Hell I thinkfitsing to the eleventh or twelfth inning to
close out a game one time.I mean, I understand this is the
age, but but when people callsoft, there's a reason why they're calling
soft. I mean, we don'twant to turn into the Yankees and say,
well we're built to win now,but uh see you later. We're
going fishing right now, all right, have a good one. Gosh hat
it? That's marvelin Matta Gordon.I we had a call of the sport

(01:23:05):
of that that's somewhere doing Ryan shakingasa here here the guy with on the
il with neck disc comfort but nolike and even Steve Sparks said it.
Bos was like, look to Marlborough. I walked up to the Mountain brother.
I will be interested to see ifit indeed stops at fifteen days.
Uh. But for me, thefirst thing that came in my mind was

(01:23:28):
there's another one. It's unfortunate.No, you couldn't foresee that Fromber and
Jabbert would both spend time on IL but you knew you were shorthanded coming
into the season, and they didn'tdo anything to protect themselves other than adding
Josh Hada on the back end.Well, how you gonna get the inning
nine if you already out of thedamn game innings one through eight. It's
just something that we got to continueto see a lot of holes in the

(01:23:51):
boat. Perhaps Matt Thomas and rossvirReal can assist us with fixing that.
For Connady McGovern, for Chris Gordonfor staying Northfleet, and all of you
Houston, Yes, you who welove and appreciate. We couldn't do it
without you. Enjoy your lunch.God willing would do it again tomorrow.
Y'all be well,

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