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of different stuff today before we dive into sobl but
I wanted to start with Scotti Scheffler because I want
to celebrate greatness on this show when it comes to golf,
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and we've done a lot of that over the years
when it comes to John Rahm, because how well he's
played Really the last I don't know twenty four months,
but definitely the last eighteen to twelve months, he's been unreal.
Scotti Scheffler, for as great as his year was last year,
all the wins, Masters Champion, you know, he hasn't won
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a major yet, but this year hasn't been too far off.
Right now, he's made almost fifteen million dollars on the
course and starting in twenty twenty three, here are his finishes.
T seven, T eleven, win in waste management, T twelve
at the Genesis, T four at Arnold Palmer, win at
the Players, fourth at the match Play, tenth at the Masters,
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which was a disaster because he played bad on Friday
eleventh at the RBC Heritage, fifth at the at and
T second at the PGA Championship, and as of two
days ago, he finished T three at the Charles Swap.
Here's the thing, and when it comes to golf, most
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guys not named Tiger, not named Jack, I mean some
of the greatest players of all time. But guys that
win multiple majors typically do it within a couple of
years span. Look at John Romm, he rattled off his
two majors in basically twenty four months. To me, Scotty Scheffler,
I've been going back and forth who I'm gonna bet
on for the la Ccus Open. Who I want to
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just go all in on. I think he's got to
be the pick. He's number one in shots gained, He's
number one in game shots gained off the team, He's
number one in shots gained TA Green. Really the only
issue with his game right now is putting. And look
at those numbers I just rattled off. Even with a
terrible putting season, he is fucking dominating. I think listen,
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I expect him rom cam Smith or Brooks Kopka, if
not two three of the four of them to seriously
be in the mix. I think Scotty Scheffler right now
is the safest bet you could argue Kepkaz. But I
see Scotty more on a weekly basis, and every single
week it's like, got he's he's too tired, he's not
gonna have this. And then you look up at Saturday,
or you look up on Sunday and there he issued
in two or three under in the top five. I
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saw an incredible stat today that if you had from
the start of this calendar year and really the season
starts in the fall, taking one hundred dollars and bet
every single tournament on Scotti Scheffler to top twenty and
rolled over your winnings each week it's fourteen events, you'd
have over twenty thousand dollars. Listen, no one is ever
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going to do what Tiger did again, right, that's not
going to happen. We see how hard it is to
win multiple majors in one year, but this guy feels
like he's going to have a twenty four month span
where he wins eight times. He won what four last year,
He's won twice this year, So he's got a win
or two left in him in multiple majors, and to me,
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that US Open, I got that one circle. This guy
is a certified ass kicker, and the only thing that
hasn't worked, like we said, is the putting. He's gonna
get hot with the putter, and hot is all relative.
If he just makes a couple more bird he putts,
make some of those ten footers, which Kopka always does,
the long car putts you know in majors. Feels like
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he's gonna win the US Open. This guy is no
longer a heater. He's just having a stretch of golf
over now a year and a half that is as
good as it gets. Now. I'm like Tiger or Jack.
I mean, this guy is an elite player. He's fun
to watch, and I think we're all naives the wrong word.
We're all hesitant because it's like, ah, this is gonna
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be the week that he falls off, and he just doesn't.
He right now has the highest floor in the game.
To me, he just got to hammer him in two weeks.
I'm not gambling on him this week at the Memorial.
I don't know why I probably should, but I'm going
to pick him to win the US Open as long
as he doesn't get injured, which luckily in golf can
be It's not like you know someone's gonna tackle him,
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someone's gonna hard foul him, or he's gonna run into
second base. He should be healthy. You never know. We
just away speed hurt his wrist, but should be healthy
headed into LA here in a couple of weeks into me.
He's my pick a couple other quick things. I do
think the overreaction to some of Michael Block's comments were
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borderline laughable, Like is there any group that has less
room to just talk shit about people for their opinions
than the overall general media. But no group loves building
someone up to tear them down like that group of people.
And did Michael Block say that if he hit it
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like Rory did off the tee that he would be
one of the top players on the PGA Tour. Sure
he did. But he doesn't talk for a living. He
literally teaches golf out of a golf course in California
that I've never heard of. He is just your run
of the mill PGA professional. I would say run of
the mill high end because he's played in majors before,
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had an impressive, you know, just career doing what he's doing,
got the opportunity to have all these interviews. If I
gave myself, if I just had a three day stretch,
I talked for a living. It's literally how I pay
the bills. But if you told me, for I don't know,
three straight days, you're gonna do ten interviews a day
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with McAfee, the Dan Patricks, with people you don't even know,
more than likely I'm gonna say something that like, yeah,
I'd like to have that one back. Hell, I do
three or four podcasts a week and sometimes like that
wasn't right. I shouldn't have said that. I messed up
that anyone listening to me knows slip up all the time.
It's part of talking. And did Michael Block say quote
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unquote something stupid? Who cares? Honestly? Who cares? This notion
that by the end of the week that Michael Block
was some joke to me kind of pissed me off.
It was an incredible story, It was very fun. The
other thing is the media tends to be very cynical.
They're kind of angry because of all like the big,
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big industries. I would argue, like on the whole, obviously
there are several in the group that make a lot,
but on the whole, they don't make very much money
for you know, working weekends, and you could say, you know,
they kind of got a cool job. Yeah, a lot
of people got cool jobs and they make some coin.
Both people in the media don't make that much money,
so there is and they covered these people that make
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an astronomical amount of money. I've always thought that there's
some resentment that way, and it leads to a cynicism, right,
it leads to like some of this deep I don't
even know how to quite describe it, an anger, willingness
to turn quickly in a negative fashion, And they did
it to Michael Block. Every single person I listened to
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by the end of the week was like rooting for
him to be really shitty. And obviously he was shot
eighty one. He had a he had a rough week.
Colonial is not a course where you can spray it
all over the place, and he clearly didn't hit it
straight and he was a disaster and he shot eighty one.
And even on the second day, you know, he was better.
I think he shot three over, but he finished in
dead last, which it really wasn't that shocking, but I
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felt like there was like a universal approval that was
glad that that happened, and I thought, like, can't we
just take it for what it is? An incredible story,
It was fun. The guy talked a lot trying to
I don't know what was a term anyone that follows
this sport that we have heard over and over and
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over since Live started. Grow the game, Grow the game,
grow the game. Let's face it. I love PGA Tour golf.
I love watching professionals play golf for a lot of money.
Does like Jordan Speeth, Ricky Fowler, Justin Thomas, Scottie Scheffler,
John Rahm really grow the game that much on a
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weekly basis? The answer is no. Tiger for a long
period of time. Did Phil even for a long period
of time, had an impact on that? I thought Michael
Block in a ten day span penetrated more people, whether
it be audio, visual, through videos, television. However, you consumed
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his story than those guys have in a long time.
Because part of the Live conversation was all surrounding controversy.
This was one of a guy who's not on the
PGA Tour, who never will be on the PGA Tour
who's forty six, forty seven years old, who's got an
eighteen year old kid right, who charges one hundred and
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twenty five dollars an hour for lessons? For example, the
teaching pro at TPC Scottsdale now he teaches Joel Damon
and some other pros, currently charges four hundred dollars an hour.
So these high end teachers, I wouldn't pay that, not
that it would do that. I mean it probably would
help me, but you know what I'm saying, Like, good
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teachers can charge a lot. This guy charges one hundred
and twenty five dollars and finished T fifteen, T fourteen
or whatever he ended up finishing in the PGA Championship
playing with Rory McElroy. It was a really cool story.
Can we just enjoy it for what it is? Like ultimately,
by the end of the week, did he say something
that he probably would regret? We all do it. We
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all do it. And in a sport where we're just
covering millionaires trying to make more millions. Like I just said,
Scotti shuffers make fifteen million dollars and listen, I'm pro money,
but the average guy is making like Google, the medium
income in America and even golf. The people that play
golf and consume golf, they are still higher end income
than the average American, but we are still not We're
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not millionaires. Like it was just a very very relatable story.
It was there was a purity to it, and by
the end, it felt like the media as a whole,
we're rooting against them. And I think this is what
I always say, there is a gap between us, and
I consider myself just the consumer who hasn't a podcast
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just tries to entertain and relate to people because there's
not that much relatable content.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Out there anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Because I think most people enjoyed watching it and might
have had a laugh or talked a little shit over
a beer about Michael Block's comments, but ultimately didn't care
that much. And I thought that the unless I'm generalizing
a little bit, but basically everyone I listened to was
like rooting for him to shit the bed, and I
just think that's that's kind of sad, and that's just
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what are we doing as a collective. Probably the first
and I thought Brandal Shamblee had a really good treat.
You know, he's found himself in the fire going back
with Phil and listen. I love Brandle like I don't
know him personally, never met him, but as someone that
watches television that I want my commentators, whether it's a
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former athlete, Brandle technically is, but you know, I wouldn't
say he's a famous former player. He's famous because of
his work on television. I want them to just give
me strong opinions. It's why I like Coward, It's why
I like Brandal Shamblee. It's why I liked It's why
you know, Troy Aikman's getting his fastball back. Like he'll
just say what he thinks and that's refreshing. And Brandle
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has hard takes. Is he always right? Of course not,
but he's not afraid to piss people off, and that's
what I like. And I just think that Michael Block
was just trying to be real and you know, probably
started feel himself by the end. How could he not
most of us would giving in those shoes as I
don't know, you're interviewing with Dan Patrick's The Jim Rooms.
He never in a million years thought he was going
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to be on their show. So I hated the way.
By the end of the week it turned and listen.
I hope he plays well in a week in Canada
when he plays the RBC, but I'll promise you if
he plays shitty again, which easily could happen. Feels like
the media is going to take a collective victory lap again,
which to me just sucks. And last, but not least,
Texas Tech has the number one amateur in college golf.
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His name is Ludwig. He's like six ' four. He's
just a stick. He's won the Hogan Award back to
back years, which is basically the the Heisman Trophy for
collegiate golfers. Sahita Galas won it pretty sure. I think
Matt Woolf for Hoblin won it. Usually, I mean guys
that go on to the PJ Tour and have a
lot of success win that award. I mean, this guy
is a can't miss pro. But historically, up until this
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PGA tore you. Even if you were Victor Hoblin or
Colin Morrik co Howell or Scotty Scheffler or whoever, you
had to earn your way out of the PGA Tour.
Now you would get some sponsor exemptions and if you
took advantage of him, you know, won it, or finish
top ten or top five, you would get yourself some
more exemptions, but you did not get your PGA Tour card.
Mark Cowell won pretty quickly at the Barracuda, got his
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PGA Tour card. Victor Hoblin had to go to the
corn Ferry finals. He finished second, got his pj TOR card,
but he had to go to the minors for a second.
Scotty Scheffler, Sam Burns, Cam Young, a lot of these guys.
Jordan Speeth won really quickly, got his card, but a
lot of these guys have to go to what Cornferry
minor leagues right to earn their way to full time
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pg TOR status. Zala Trus didn't win, but because he
was finishing so high and money list, he was able to,
you know, keep getting invited into the every week right,
but he did not until he won the tournament. His
status was, you know, kind of weird. And Ludwig as
the number one amateur now or as the number one
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PGA Tour you member gets immediately to go to the show.
And I think this is a long time coming, and
I give I applaud the PGA Tour for doing this
because it's a major issue with baseball. You get these
sweet draft picks, and I don't care if you're Bryce Harper,
Tim Lincecom or Steven Strasburg, You're going to spend some
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time in the minor leagues. We're in football. When I
draft Bryce Young or I draft CJ. Stroud, they are
my starting quarterback and at minimum they're in the NFL immediately.
In basketball, Victor Wembiama greatest prospects since Lebron James. If
this was baseball or historically golf, he would have to
spend some time in the minor leagues, and I think
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the faster you can circumvent that. Now, eventually, you got
to earn your way. You got to prove that you
can play at that level. You're not guaranteed to be
a star or have a good career like you got
to earn it. It's the great part about the meritocracy
of pro sports. You get if you're draft a little higher,
you get some wiggle room, but you still eventually, like
Trey Lancewer was the third pick, they traded three first
round picks for him. He's currently competing to be the
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backup right So Ludvig is going to get a spot
and he's got to prove that he can play Hovelin
Marikawa speeth Justin Thomas. When these guys got their opportunities,
they took advantage of it. But I like that you
immediately come up and Ludvig gets the rest of this
year as a full time PGA Tour member. He will
make his debut at the RBC Heritage and then next
year gets full time membership, which to me is a
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no brainer. Pretty cool. Looking forward to watch this guy play.
I know Tron Carter of NLU has been banging the
table forever. I know, you know, I know some people
in the business that are in business now with them
that are very very excited. They think this guy's the
real deal. Well, I'm excited to watch him play. And
I just think ultimately this was the right move by
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the tour to try to take advantage and some people
Sobo said that this was already in motion before live Golf.
Whether it was or wasn't, to me, this is just
the correct move. You want your stud young players involved
where the money is, playing the better players as quickly
as possible. Now, if they can't hang and they can't
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figure it out, they got to go back and figure
it out part of the deal. And just because you're
great in college, like for every great college player a
lot of guys. Max Homa was a national champion in
college individual it took him some time to figure it out.
And look at him now, he's one of the best
American players. You know, He's one of our top Ryder
Cup guys. So not everyone is on the same pass.
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Some guys calling Morikawa ready to roll immediately. Some guys,
you know, Wyndam Clark, Maxhoma takes them a little more time.
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exem extraordinaire golf officionado gambling dominant picker who I see
might have had a name that I didn't quite see
coming this week, But you know, I've I've been telling
him about this guy. You know, he's been flying a
little under the radar. Can't chip now he can? He's
pretty good player, my man, Jason, soble cracking, bro, what's
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going on?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You didn't even mention the fact that you know as
soon as I actually went a bet, I'm sending you
screenshots on Sunday afternoon, that is on Sunday, because I
was sitting there sweating Amelia out of Grella making the
worst double bogey of his life, and then like letting kids.
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I look in in the aftermath, it's like, oh, that
was really cool, Like, you know, take the pressure off
and and tad some kids to hop over the fence
and hit some balls on the range with you. If
he loses, we're sitting here going doing no warm up,
like you just spending double Like, go figure out your
swing a little bit. Don't worry about the kids that
are sitting over there. In any case, it all worked out.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, you know, I was, uh, I'd never even heard
of the guy before, but I was rooting for Peaky Blinders.
The dude, you know, a hall right all with the
hat that could have easily been put in, you know,
been one of the brothers and Peaky Blinders and just
killing people left and right. But he he fell apart
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, I'm not a Peaky Blinders guy. I haven't seen it,
but he looked like a like Bryson's English cousin Whenson
was wearing those hats. And a lot of people have
said about Bryce like man. He puts on a normal
golf hat and he like, he becomes instantly more likable
without the I guess the tam o' shanter if we're
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gonna get technical there, but nah, Harry Hall seems like
a likable guy. He led for most of the tournament
and just kind of didn't get it done on Sunday,
but he'll be there again. Good putter.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Okay, bo, you want to dive right into Michael Block
in two weeks as RBC odds or you want to
you want to that one back a little bit right?
Speaker 2 (22:23):
How about can we get I mean Bill Bale of
Golf Die just wrote a really good piece on this
that the meta dive on the Michael Block, Like everyone
loves Michael Block. And then here's our society, which is
we can't keep ourselves from hating anything after two days.
So Michael Block, who's already at his fifteen minutes of fame,
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in his sixteenth minute, now everybody hates them, and there's
backlash against Michael Block. Then there's backlash to the backlash,
then there's backlash to the backlash of the backlash, and
it's like everyone's going back and forth, like yelling about
Michael Blocks, It's.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Like, I don't know, man, Like he's a PGA pro.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He played well, he got some exemptions, he said some stuff.
He probably should have said, Hey, if I could hit
it as far as Rory, I'd be one of the
best players in the world. Now you probably wouldn't be.
He'd probably still be a club bro that hits it
a long way. But I mean, it's not like he's
got a PR team helping him out with these hundreds
of interviews that he's doing after all this stuff. So
the guy a little slack air. It's just not even
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that serious. Like for everyone I heard.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I was listening to Smiley Kaufman yesterday kind of being like,
you know what inerks some players on the range. It's like,
can you everyone fucking relaxed? I mean, you guys are
never going to see that. You got see this guy
maybe twice the rest of your career. I would understand
if Ludwig, you know, or some random young guy said that, okay,
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but Michael Block, can you guys chill? I mean, can
everyone just take a chill pill.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
This is not Patrick Reid saying I'm one of the
top five players in the world and us going well,
there's him and him, which one of you better then?
Because there are five really good, accomplished players. This is
Michael Block in his thirty seventh interview of the of
Tuesday Afternoon last week. Oh and yeah, you know what
if if Rory, you know, if I could hit it
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like Rory, Yeah, I'd be one of the best players.
I don't know, like you're supposed to think like that,
like what golfer is Like, Hey, man, if I could
it a lot further, I'd probably still not be that good.
I'd be okay. But I just said it further.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
And I'd also say this if he had if he
had looked Dan Patrick in the eye or said it
on the Golf Channel set. If you're on the Ripper
Macgoo Cup podcast, I give you a little You're allowed
to say some crazy shit. I mean, what is the
Ripper Magoo. I like, I follow Bob on on Instagram,
but he said it on the Ripper Magoo podcast. So
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everyone just let's chill.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I mean really like and by the way, and I
love Smiley. There are no guys on the range of
colonial going like, man, I'm so pissed at Michael Block
for saying that that really irks me, like nobody cares.
Nobody cares. This is such a twenty twenty three social
media type of you know argument where look, I try
to stay off Twitter for you know, at least part
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of the week when you know, once we've got all
our predictions and stuff done, Like once we get to Thursday,
I'm like, all right, I'm gonna watch golf, I'm gonna
play golf. I'm gonna stay off social media. I kind
of have a life, have a life. I sort of
missed it. This is the kind of thing that people
who live their lives on social media, like, I'm in
sense that Michael Block would say, such a thing over yourself.
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Go outside.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, one guy who can be a little edgy, and
he's been beating this drum. It feels like for I
would say six months ish. H is John Rahm, who
now really the you know, the big dog him and Rory,
but he's you know, it's weird, like Rory was more
unspoken last year. Now he's quieted down. Rom's just kept
pedal to the metal, easier for him to keep Talking's
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playing well this season. Just talked about the Ryder Cup,
and I think he was specifically talking about Sergio, but
I think he just represents like who cares, just whoever
our best twelve guys are, I don't care where they play.
We talked last week about Koepka, who currently is second
and feels like he's unique, right because he's well liked
by the guys, So it's not one of those where
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and there were rumors that you know, he had talked
to people. I think I don't even think there were
rumors about like how he could get back, and it
feels like, you know, it's trending if he doesn't. If
he has another top five and one of these last
two majors, he's gonna be on the ryder Cup. Unless
you think I'm speaking I turn on that one. But
you know, John Rahm, the lift thing with the Euros
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is a little different because those guys feelt like, talked
way more shit for the guys that could still, especially Sergio,
Like Fiel's not going to be on the ryder Cup, right,
Bryce is not going to be on the ryder Cup.
But Sergio is a guy that I clearly rom would
pick like I want him on, but he is kind of,
you know, eviscerated everyone with his comments. It's I do
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understand it's a weird position, but like John saying, who cares,
this is not this is separate from all this that
he's been talking about.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Well, here's the thing. This is the separate but inequal
I guess part of the Ryder Cup is that the
PGA of America runs things on the US side of
the Ryder Cup. And so the PGA of America, that's
where all your club professionals are members of the PGA
of America. And I'm saying this for the block of
the listeners and viewers right now that don't necessarily know
the difference between There's a major difference between the PGA
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of America and the PGA Tour. They're not the same thing.
So the PGA of America, in my opinion, should look
out for the greater good of the Ryder Cup, of
the players, of anybody that it benefits. And so hey,
if if one guy's on the PGA Tour and other
guy's on live, but they're each two of the best
twelve players in the United States right now, they should
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go represent the Ryder Cup. And I believe the PGA
of America ultimately will usher that in coming this fall.
The other side of This is that the European Tour
now called the DP World Tour runs the Europeans side
of things for the Ryder Cup. They don't have a
sort of I guess the RNA over there is sort
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of like the PGA of America, although it's more like
the USGA over here. There's a lot of like intrinsic
similarities and differences between it. But the European Tour runs
that side of things for Europe and so they have
a direct connection and a direct benefit and into what
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happens at the Ryder Cup. I mean, my buddy Bob Harrig,
back when he was at ESPN now with Sports Illustrated,
wrote a piece of years ago breaking down the financial
impact of the Ryder Cup on the European Tour and
essentially wrote that the European Tour wouldn't exist if it
wasn't taking in all the revenue from the Ryder Cup
every two years. And so this is a major major
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driver for them. So what you're having on the European
side is guys like Sergio Garcia and Ian Poulter and
folks that have been part of Ryder Cups for years.
Henrik Stenson, of course, who's supposed to be the captain
this year. I have left for Live, and there's a
true decisive divisiveness between Live and the European Tour, and
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so I think it's harder for them to look at
these players and say, hey, objectively, you're one of the
twelve best players from our continent. You should be playing. Instead,
it's you've left our tour and so we have a
that has a direct impact on us and we're not
gonna let you play. It's a it's a maybe small,
but very consequential difference to the day of America running
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the US side of things, and that you know, the
PGA of America should in and hopefully doesn't have necessarily
a bias towards PGA Tour players over the Live players.
I can see it though from the European side.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, well, let's transition into this week. And when you
look at really the next three of the next four weeks,
you got Memorial elevated event week off next week beside
from Michael Block at the RBC, and then you got
the US Open and then you hit the Travelers. Now
looks like it's an elevated event because the person is
twenty million dollars So this is where Phil was tweeted
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about last week, like, you know, say what you want,
but our schedule is just a little easier on everybody.
I think Homa is a Homa and finale. Only the
two top players this week that are out. I mean
a lot of the big names. Scotti, Scheffler waits all
the time of Justin Rose, a big name. He's the
guy that I liked this week I'd written down on
my list, and then he's not showing. So yeah, but
it's it's for the So I mean, a large, large
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contingent of the guys that we're going to be talking
about heavily in a couple of weeks of the US
Open are playing this week. So and this is a
big deal. I mean it's been a big deal my
entire adult life, this tournament with Jack and the course
you wrote about. You know a lot of names, maybe
not quote unquote long shots, but longer numbers than we've
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seen so far earlier this year in rom it's mainly Scottie.
In all these tournaments, you can get guys anywhere from
twenty thirty to almost sixty to one. You know. Besides,
we'll get into your pick, but just some names that
you like this week kind of in that thirty to
sixty range. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
So first of all, wait, what was Phil saying? Like
Phil Phil saying like the schedule is easier on Live.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Phil Phil, you know it's hard to follow his tweet
storms because he gets he's been aggressive. I'd say these
last couple of months that just the schedule of Live
has helped guys be fresher and peak for majors. In
terms of the double down on the PGA tour schedule
this year is wearing guys out.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I mean, they've already been to what Australia and somewhere
in the Far East, and they're going around the way.
I don't know, Phil can.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
They're not playing as much golf. I mean I I
flip channels on Saturday because like on my YouTube, TVCW
is right next to CBS, and it was Harold Varner
on a par three with water to the left, which
I think is the Potomac River, and it had like
Kodak black just blaring. I mean, you couldn't you could
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barely hear the announcement. It was crazy. I'm like, this
is this is wild? You know, not that anyone's watching.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
What is the Venn diagram of people watching Live that
at that moment, who could name the artist that was
playing in the background.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
It had to be slim because I don't think many
people are watching the thing.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
First of all, look, it's it's fine. I walked with
a few guys that I've become friendly with on on
Live on Wednesday during practice round at an Oak hillf
PJA Championship, and there wasn't like they were playing with
the PGA Tour player that they're friendly with. It wasn't like, man,
we're gonna beat you and Live sucks. Like it's just
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sort of they went and did their thing, and everyone's like, okay, yeah,
I get it. You know, it kind of makes sense
for you. It doesn't make sense for me. I look,
I have I don't have a problem with what Live
is for those who like it better than the PGA Tours.
I've said a million times now, I'm happy for you.
I'm happy that you've found something you like. That said,
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let's not turn this into you know, Phil going, oh wow,
the schedule's better, and you know you've if you're playing
live right now, you have to play fourteen events this year.
If you're playing the PGA Tour right now, you have
to playing fifteen events this year. More of the live
events are international than the US events. I to sit
here and go, oh man, it's easier. And by the way,
if the live players weren't playing well the Major Championships,
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the narrative would switch to, Man, these guys just started
getting battle tested enough and they're not playing. Instead, they
are playing well, and it's man, the schedules really nice.
These guys can stay fresh going into the Major Championship.
Really there's a bunch of really good players on LIV.
They've played well. Cameron Smith might wind up being number
one on my list for the US Open in a
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couple of weeks because I really like him. There Brooks obviously,
he Brooks kept good. It doesn't matter what tour is playing.
He can played no tour. He was played four times
a year, and he would be up there at the
Major Championship. So I, you know, to sit here and
credit lives schedule at Phill's definitely not off the deep
end with some of this stuff. For as much as
I like Phil, let's getting a little ridiculous. But that said,
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back to the memorial, some of the guys I like,
you mentioned them, Victor Hovelin seems like a pretty good
number at twenty to one this week. The record hasn't
been there at the Memorial. But what's happened over the
last few years, look no surprise. Victor Hovelin's short game
has been offul the last three years. I mean, and
really right now it's starting to get better. It's kind
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of like what we say about the best ball strikers,
the Justin Thomas' and the Colin Morricowas and the Wills Alataurus,
is like, hey, if they could just put average, they
don't have to be the best putter in the field.
But with their iron play, if they can just put average,
they're going to contend for titles. I think the same
thing about Hovelin's wedge game around the greens. He's essentially
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been average lately. Is gained around the greens and three
of his last six and been sort of neutral. You
go back to last year at the Memorial, he lost
nearly two strokes around the greens per round. So all
he has to do is like, don't you don't have
to gain two strokes around, just just don't lose two
strokes around. He's gotten much better at that. I think
that puts him in position to play really well. Obviously
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trending in the right direction the tea. The green game
is great, and so Holvel's at the top of my
list of this week. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
First you had Thigala, who I've bet on a lot
and feels inevitable he's gonna win. Kind of the Zala
Taurus mode I would put. You know, cam Young's number
is higher consistently and as it should be than Thagalas,
and he's another guy I would put that falls under
that you listed off in your column. The guys that
have won this tournament as Horsell can't lay and can't
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lay one because Rom, you know, had to leave. Rom
could have been back to back winners. But I mean,
can't lay is a legit winner, can't He's won this
couple times. Bryson, that Bryson's first win, that first big win,
right second win. So I mean it's it's some pretty
big name guys. Uh, you know, th Gala, the one
thing you've been here before, can get a little squirrely
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off the tee would be the only thing you got.
You gotta drive it relatively straight at this at this time.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't come down to just strokes
gamed off the tee, but I would have said that
the PGA Championship, and he was playing pretty well, much
better than I thought he would play. Yeah, look he
knows he sprays it. It's really the one weakness in
his game. Right now, I'm okay with that. Usually you're
gonna have to find more of the fairways here. You
can't just spray it all over Mirfield Village and expect
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to be up there on the leaderboard. But he showed
it last year. It was fifth place last year. This
place where I've had my eye on Thigala for a while,
and historically over the last six years, we've seen the
section of like, well, we've seen a few times so
Deshambo's second career win can't Ley's second career win, Rom's
third career win. So all these guys are like kind
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of at the level where Thigala is now, even though
he hasn't won yet. It was sort of like, hey,
we know this guy's going to be a superstar. Hasn't
quite become a superstar yet, but used the Memorial Tournament
kind of as that stepping stone. I think, being in
between the first two majors of the year and the
last two majors of the year. This is sort of
a litmus test for the guys who are like, Hey,
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I want to go win this event. This event means
a lot to me. And the guys were like, all right,
let me catch my breath a little here, Like I
feel like I just walked off the eighteenth green at
Oak Hill, and I feel like I'm going to LACC tomorrow.
And I've kind of just kind of like used this
week as a all right, let's keep getting in the
right direction. But again, like they say all the time,
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you don't want to peak on one of those non
major weeks, even though this is a very big event.
And so I think there's a trend there that shows
maybe some younger players who are a little hungry or
a little more motivated to win a stepping stone type
of event can play. Well, here's one other stat for you.
Because each of those names, I may their number was
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just a little bit bigger pre tournament then you might
think that it would be. And the reason for it.
I went back and found this from deshambo in eighteen
to rom In twenty twenty, who was twenty to one
Brice was forty to one. Rom was twenty to one.
Can't Lay for his second win in twenty one. That
was the Rom year where he had to withdraw with
a six shot. Can'tley was twenty to one last year,
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Billy Horsechell sixty to one. All those numbers seem a
little bigger than they should have been beforehand. Went back
and looked. All four of those guys in those situations
had finished outside the top twenty in their previous two starts.
So I think what happens is we get to this
point in the season, we only look at the players
who were in form. I'm not saying that an inform
player can't play well. I mean, I just talked about Hovland,
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who's very much in form. But I don't think that
it's irrational to look at a player like a Cam
Young who you mentioned, who hasn't played well over the
last three or four starts, to jump in here and
all of a sudden win a golf tournament.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
A little look ahead to the LACC. You know, Rory
I thought showed some metal in the PGA Championship. You
and I talked about that, is there anything this week
he can show to make you a little more confident
because it feels like now a lot of people are
off the scent, which is, you know, if you kind
of look at it, like you know, by low sell high,
a lot of people buy Rory when it's probably too high,
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and a lot of people get off the scent when
it's too low. And he feels like that, and it's
like I shifted away. But now I'm kind of like
I'm gonna watching him pretty closely because if you can
get that number ten eleven to one, where he would
have been right there seven eight to one, it's still
not great, but you know, I do think that if
he gained a little confidence the PGA plays well this week,
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he's not a terrible bet at LACC.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
My hope for Rory at least all right, my hope
for me betting Rory. I guess it's a better way
to put it is that it looks very ordinary this week.
It looks very ordinary at the US Open, and that
number drops a little bit maybe at twelve to fourteen
to one, and we can play him at Royal Liverpool
where he's won before. So that's my hope, and that's
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where I'm targeting him, And if he plays well this
week and he plays well at the US Open instead,
he's going to be eight to one because he's won
there for an Open championship before. So I don't know.
As far as this week, I don't know about Rory.
As far as the US Open, yeah, lacc, I don't know.
There's still something not quite right with Rory right now.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well, he hasn't been very accurate. I saw a stat
his driving accuracy has not been good this year, which
is like his potent weapon. I'd be like, you know,
Russell Wilson doesn't throw the deep ball or step Curry
doesn't choose the three, Like when you don't do what
you're great at, it does throw you off. And like
I'm with you, I'm not, I'm hesitant still, I'm just
I'm just keeping an eye on because the other guy.
(40:49):
Did you see the stat going around I think yesterday
that if you had put one hundred dollars at the
start of the season on Scottie Scheffler just to top
twenty his fourteen events and just kept rolling it over,
you'd have over twenty thousand dollars. You know, his season
is pretty fucking remarkable. Examined to come off what he
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did last year. I mean he's I've been thinking, like,
do I just put like a thousand dollars on him
to win the LACC and just go all in on one?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Gay? I mean might as well if you feel like
if you're going big to thank Scotty scheffer you're right
benom top ten every week because that's what he's doing.
I mean the floor is more.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Take it and go like twenty five percent to win,
twenty five percent to top five and like figures out
of the top ten.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, exactly, because I've seen it. Like, look, I still
think John robb is the best player in the world,
and I you know, however, we want to categorize that,
and I would love to get rid of the world ranking,
which is the pause of more consternation uh than support
these days. But in my mind, I think John Robm's
the number one player in the world. He has the
highest ceiling. I think Scotty Scheffler is number one when
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it comes to floor, and it's not even close right now.
I Mean, we see weeks where Rom doesn't have his
best stuff. We certainly see weeks when Rory just doesn't
have his mind in it. And going back to Rory,
I would say that less about driving accuracy, less about
a stat It's just it's the six inches between the
years right now for me, that is just not getting
it done for Rory, and there's something not quite right there.
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Until I see him change his tune a little bit,
I will probably be off Rory. It's not necessarily a
full fade, but I can't see me back in Rory
at these kind of numbers when I'm just not sure
about him. And so that said, all that said, Scotty
Scheffler's floor has been incredible over the last year. I
mean there are times when I look at and I go,
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for instance, matchup bets. This week, you can get Can't Lay,
who's finished top four in for the last five years
at this event, at plus money against Scotty Scheffler. I'm like,
that sounds really good. Can't Lay always plays well here.
He's due for that big week. He's been trending in
the right direction for a long time, riving it better
than anybody else right now, and yet I still can't
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dead against Scotch. I mean, it's just he shows up
every single week.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Well, I think I'm gonna throw a couple Nuggies on
the dollar this week and let it ride and have
a good time. So lacc right around the corner. Soble uh,
that's gonna be fun. I'm pretty juiced and we're still
what two and a half weeks away, So I will
talk to you next week and have a good week.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Man, thanks brother, appreciate you. And yeah, this would be
a good one. This'll be fun week.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, let's bang out a couple quick mail bag questions
at golopod is the Instagram at golopod fire in. Like
Hayden did, had a thought on the majors in this
post Live world. Part of what's cool about bull season
in college football, and specifically the playoff is teams that
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don't normally face each other finally square off. We speculate
all year long, sec ACC, Big ten, how would amit
Major do against one of the big boys, Then at
the end of the year we actually get to find
out makes the games really compelling. Totally agree. Now you
think of the majors, it's kind of the same thing
we speculate about live who would compare somebody on the
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PGA Tour, But in the major you actually get to
find out makes a really good compelling storyline. Would I
like to see them compete every week. Sure, I definitely
miss seeing Brooks djuh on Sunday, but honestly, most weeks
and I assume, like a lot of other golf fans,
only up watching Sunday anyways, and sometimes there is such
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a crappy field it's really not worth watching. Byron Nelson
totally agree. So it just makes me that much more
amped for the majors, And finally, together agree or disagree,
I could not agree anymore. The majors feel dramatically different
right because everyone's involved. And I do like your college
football analogy because Ohio State, Michigan when they play or USC, Oregon,
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Texas and Oklahoma can still feel really good, right, just
like if Scottie Scheffler, John Ram, Sam Burns and Rory
are all in the mix. Right come the memorial where
it's Cam Young VERSU JT with speed a couple shots
behind him and John Rahm. I use John rom twice
because it's m R. Scotti are usually in the mix.
But you know what I'm saying, but I hear you, Yeah,
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it's It's definitely made the majors really bigger. I think
the problem is for golf, whether it's the live events.
They don't really care about television ratings because money they're
on the CW it doesn't matter. The PGA Tour does,
and the PGA Tour season is dependent on making some
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of those tournaments relevant because people gave them a lot
of money to show their content, and I think their
content is now diminished a little bit. You know, it
felt like early in the season, I think they're gonna
be tournaments that are pretty full proof, that are pretty
like h recession proof would be the wrong way to
put it, but just are always gonna work. The waste
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management now is gonna work, right, That's gonna work the players.
That's gonna work, and it really has for a long
time now. To me, waste management the players. Pebble Beach
doesn't work anymore. No one plays Riv's cool. But I
would say waste management is bigger than RIV because it
gets a more casual fan, especially now with the branding
(46:25):
of social media. So yeah, the majors, the gap has
only widened, and the interest because of these cam Smith
and DJ and obviously Kopka now wins the PGA has
only added to it. I hear you. I mean, like
the Byron Nelson. We didn't need to watch. I didn't really.
I'm sure you didn't really, most people didn't. I would
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imagine the television ratings are pretty low, but that's not
ideal for the PGA tour. I mean that they got
to figure out the reason the NFL is king is
not because one hundred million people watch super Bowl or
because you know, the playoffs at thirty forty fifty million
people watching. Is because, like Week eight, they could put
Atlanta versus the Jags and fifteen million people will watch
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if it's on Thursday Night football or Monday night football.
And you know, part of being a powerful entity is
being is growing with your audience. And I think when
you diminish the weekly product, that hurts. But it can't
be argued that the majors are bigger and better than
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ever just because of the split. And you got guys
Cam Smith, Brooks, I mean, Bryson. DJ hasn't really been
playing well and I saw Paulina Instagram there on the water.
I mean, you know, I don't even blame DJ, how
locked in he is. I love watching DJ play golf,
but like that group of guys that can win, maybe
Patrick Reid to question for the mailbag, what's your thoughts
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on Bryson after his performance at the PGA Championship. Do
you think he will get back to top ten form.
I listened to a lot of golf podcasts and a
lot of guys media, guys that go to these tournaments,
and I heard a lot of good points about some
of the parallels to Oak Hill, which I thought showed
really well. We're kind of wing foot e long golf course,
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as the guys on tour call it, a big ballpark,
long rough So what happens when you can hit it far?
You just have instead of hitting driver five iron, your
driver eight iron, driver nine iron. So he's not doing
what he did a year ago hitting it four hundred yards.
He's still pretty deep. He's still really deep, and that's
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an advantage. So I think those type courses let it
rip right. I think if you play Tory Pines, good
setup for Wingfoot, good setup for him. The Masters not
a good setup for him. Next year. Pinehurst will not
be a good setup for lacc and all you boys
played there once? Is I like to tell you every time,
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probably not ideal because it's not it's not a big
rough course. It's in a weird way. It's California compared
to North Carolina, but it's kind of got some California
Pinehurst vibes to it. It's gonna it doesn't look like
things were used to on the West Coast. It doesn't
look like Tory Pines, doesn't look like Pebble Beach, doesn't
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look like Olympic Club, doesn't look like the way you
know TPC Scottsdale. It'll just look completely different. And I'm
not sure it's a great fit for him. So I
think Bryson clearly is starting to get a swag back
a little bit, which is good. I think he's more
entertaining for the golfing world. But I think of all
the guys that have major championship ability, like a guy
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that can win a major, he's probably the most course dependent,
right like Brooks, Scottie, rom Rory, cam Smith, JT. If
he can get his mojo back, like those guys can travel,
they can play a lot of different places. I think
Bryson kne it's long courses, thick rough. I think that's
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kind of his thing. Curious to know if you watched
the College Natural Championship on Golf Channel, are you guys
interested in watching. Are guys you're interested in watching going forward?
I hope your Memorial Day is going well. I watched
a lot of it on Sunday. I guess it was Monday.
I watched the playoff between Stanford and Arizona State to
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get into the match play, and then I watched it
today at the gym. North Carolina beat Arizona State. Ludwig
the dude from Texas Tech. Texas Tech didn't qualify to
the match play that got knocked out, but he's obviously
gonna be really good. I think Preston Summer Hayes. Boyd
is his father who teaches you know, Fenale Taylor Gooch.
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He's a really good teacher. I mean, high end guy.
I think Preston Summer Hayes. He's a sophomore at Arizona State.
He became I mean by I don't know, win this year.
He's clearly their best player. That guy's gonna be really
really good. I think he's a tour player and you're
probably still gonna got a couple. He'll probably stay all
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four years of Arizona State, but just the way he
carries himself. I watched him conduct an interview on Monday
after he had won his match. I would bet on
that guy. You know, I think there are some parallels
to like some of the guys in pro sports. I'm
not comparing him the player to these guys, but like
Mahome Steph Clay, he's just been around the big leagues,
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man Like he just plays rounds with Tony Fenow like
he plays. He was in the day that Fenw and
Ram both shot like fifty nine and sixty one at
silver Leaf. Preston was playing with him, So he's just
kind of used to it. And I just watched him
after his match get interviewed by the Golf Channel and
I was like, this kid's kind of got it. I'll
be honest, I don't know many of the other players,
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like On Pepperdine in North Carolina. I think North Carolina
the colors in golf just kind of work. Eberdine clearly
he's got a squad. But I'm telling you, Preston Summerhse,
you know that name is gonna be one you'll remember.
Stanford has a guy who is coming back next year,
will be a senior. I can't say his name correctly,
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Michael Long something. He's going to be a really good player.
He is a good player. Scottie Scheffler to win the
US Open is a lock guy plays his best golf
in majors. Only did the Masters in PGA Championship because
he had an off day one time in pouring rain
and cold. The East Tournament LA country Club should be
nice and hot. The Texas kid will love agree. I'm
(52:36):
tempted to put like a thousand dollars on Scheffler. I
saw to day it was like seven and a half
to one. Though if he wins Memorial Day he could
kick off or the Memorial at like five to one.
But it feels like he's the guy to play, Okay.
Last question from Brian, would love your thoughts on lives
ongoing complaints about not being included in the owg R
(52:57):
Official Golf World Rankings. Clearly, Brooks showed these guys can
still play well. Brook showed that he can still play,
and I don't care where the money does come from.
But Mickelson's response to a recent question about liv's format
needing to change to get ranking points not being their
job just makes no sense to me. How would he
feel about world ranking points going to five guys that
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decided to hold a closed nighthole alternate shot exhibition event.
What about fifteen guys that play an eighteen hole scramble
or thirty that play twenty seven holes over two days,
but forty eight guys playing a fifty four hole shotgun
start that he feels can't be compared to a full field,
seventy two hole event with cuts promotion and relegation. I
just don't get how they can see there are basic
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event standards for any ranking to be able to accurately
compare players apples to apples. Totally agree. I'm in agreement
with the live guys that owgr now that Brooks cam Smith,
even Bryce and Patrick reed like, we can't act like
those guys are not top ten players. I totally agree.
I also disagree with Claude harm and talking a bunch
(54:01):
of shit about like will Zalatorus and Maxholma. Like I
saw will z Alaturus at the Majors, I've seen Maxhoma
win turn. Those guys can fucking play. No one's acting
like Brooks Kopka's worse than those guys. No one's saying that.
No one is saying that Xalatorus or Maxhoma are better
than Maxhoma or I mean the Kopka. No one is
(54:21):
saying that out loud. But we also standards of standards, right,
If you want to run a financial operation, you have
to follow certain guidelines by the government. If you want
to open a restaurant and sell alcohol, there are rules
you have to follow. You have to get an alcohol license.
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You and I can't just start go open a restaurant
in some you know, commercial building, call it Johnny's and
just start selling alcohol without going through the proper channels
or we will get shut down. So I am one
hundred percent with you. You can't just start a tour,
(55:04):
I guess is what it's called. I didn't even know
a group that plays golf and just be like, we
deserve it too, just because you have big name guys, right, Well,
it's like, well, yeah, there are standards here. You don't
even play like literally, even if you had no cuts,
you play one less round. And anyone that's gambled on
golf knows that, Like hell, I hit jat to win
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the players a couple of years ago, he had no
business winning it. After Friday, if it would have been
a fifty four whole event, he doesn't win it so
like that's part of the Yeah, I'm in agreement there.
Do the Golf World rankings have as much merit as
they once did? Of course not, But like where the
standards pretty well established?
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (55:47):
Right, you want to get your driver's license, you gotta
do something to get your driver's license, right, I don't
know past a drivings test. It's literally in every walk
of life, whether it's business, whether it's a like I said,
a license, an ID to become a citizen, I don't know.
It's like there are rules. Hell, I've never liked rules.
I hate rules. I'm not a big rule follower, but
(56:10):
there are certain times in life you gotta Follow'm right.
I mean, it's just part of the world we live in.
And they refuse and now they're bitching and moaning about it.
It ain't gonna change the fact. You can complain about
it all day long. You can open that restaurant, but
until you get that liquor license, you cannot sell liquor
or you will get shut down. So you can start
the tour, but if you're not following their standards, they're
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not gonna give you the points. And that's not gonna change,
especially when you sue everybody, so they handled it completely
the wrong way. Part of getting business deals done, even
if you don't like who you're dealing with, you know,
part of playing politics is just like learning when to
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shut your mouth if you want to get something done.
I'm not a huge like play politics guy, just in
life in general, but there comes a time in business
when you just got to do it, and live had
their opportunity and they just tried to come out double
middle fingers, do it our way, hell over hell or
high water, and what's happened. Everyone's laughed at him, like
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you're not getting any points, and it hasn't changed. So
I hear you. I appreciate everyone listening. Have a good week.
Like I said Thigala, Cam Young, Shane Lowry, I just
I don't know why I keep gambling on Keegan, but
it feels like he's bound to win a tournament this year.
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