May 3, 2023 • 54 mins
John starts by discussing Tiger Woods' parting ways with his longtime caddy Joe LaCava, and why it marks the unofficial ending for Tiger’s competitive career. Then, he discusses the Tiger /LaCava split, and Wells Fargo best bets with Action Network's Jason Sobel. John also answers listener mailbag questions!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is going on? Everybody? Jeam Middlecop Golo Pod, Big
show coming up. Talk to Sobl. We didn't do anything
last week about everything going on under the sun. News
broke while I was on with him about Tiger Woods
and Joela Cava, and that is what I'm going to
open my show up with my take. At the time,
(00:33):
me and Sobol didn't know that it was like an
official long term partnership. But obviously as the day went on,
Tiger Woods and Joela Cava that things run its course
because of tiger Wood's injury, and he gave him his
blessing and I think that marks the unofficial end for
the cat. But uh, we'll talk about that off the top.
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We will talk to Sobal about everything going on, world
golf rankings, Tiger Woods, Lacava, you name it, some gambling
this week, Ricky Fowler awfully tasty, Tommy Fleetwood a little
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what else. I haven't watched as much golf the last
couple weeks, been playing easy to check out when it's
the Zurich and then the Mexico Open, even if it's
Tony Fena and John Ron battling it out. But well
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as Fargo, Rory McElroy is back said you need a
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use that promo code. Let's get to the story of
the day, and that is its official that Joe Lacava,
a fellow Bald Brother, enormous NFL fan, he's a big
New York Giants fan, will no longer caddy for Tiger Woods.
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And last week we had opened the show with there
was breaking news that Tiger needed a surgery. And it's
pretty clear that Tiger Woods season, when it comes to
the Majors, which really is just his golfing season now,
is probably over. And I think last week I had
talked about, like, I think his career because last year
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we thought, list we're never gonna get a season out
of Tiger beside the four Majors, separate from the tournament
with Charlie, which let's face, he only has got a
couple more years. Charlie's gonna go to college. But and
maybe we'll get a tournament here, a tournament there. This
year he played riff right, so maybe we'd get at
most five or six tournaments. And then we saw again
this year at the Masters, his foot just kind of
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go and he couldn't walk and he withdrew. And that
makes me really sad because I think Tiger Woods, and
I tweeted this out in my thirty eight years of life.
There are three guys that I put on a pedestal
of being all time great competitors. And we have seen
great entertainers, guys that you would feel very good about
paying to see in all sports. But I don't think
when it comes to winning. I didn't live through Jack Right,
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I didn't really live Joe Montana. I didn't live those
seventies Pittsburgh Steeler teams or Bill Russell. It's Michael, It's Tiger,
and it's Brady are the three greatest competitors slash winners
of my lifetime. And what makes Tiger unique is those
other two guys were not quite phenomenons like him. I mean,
this guy was on television at two years old. This
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guy was on Sports Illustrated in his mid teens. This guy.
The one of the big companies at the time built
a golfing brand which they didn't have much to do
with around the guy, and it changed Nike. I mean,
the two most influential important people to the history of
Phil Knight are Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. I honestly
don't even think it's debatable. And when you think about
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when you go to work, when you go out on
a date when you go play golf. I mean that
just kind of performance polo is something that is part
of our culture now. And as someone whose parents made
them wear collared shirts before nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety seven,
they did not feel or look like what Nike created,
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and then everyone followed suit and copied. But what I'm
alluding to is like it's unofficially over for Tiger Woods.
I don't know how else you could come up with
any conclusion to today that Jolacava, his longtime caddy, is
now officially on the bag, not just part time, not
(05:24):
just taking a tournament or two, but full time with
Patrick Cantley. Who listen anyone that follows golf closely, like
Patrick Cantley is not the most enjoyable player to watch.
But there is no disputing and there is definitely no
argument in terms of this guy's ability to print cash
because he is an ATM machine, and he's eventually going
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to win a major or two, and he's gonna win
a ton more tournaments, and he's gonna make a ton
of money, finish in top fives and top tens in
big events. He's an elite player. There's really no way
around it is he fun to watch, of course not
would he be fun for me or you to play with?
Probably not. He plays very slow, but I completely understand it.
Joe Lacava going with you know, I think it's fair
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to say a top five American. I mean, he's definitely
one of the better players in all of professional golf,
that includes the live tour. So but I don't think
he goes if Tiger was going to play five six
times a year. But I think it's fair to say
after the surgery last week, and if you've read up
on it, it was to kind of cure the arthritis,
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but also it's going to limit his mobility. This season's
probably done. But I even think moving forward to assume
that we're going to get four majors, I no longer
assume that. I think, at best, for the next several years,
we get Tiger at the Masters and everything else there
is gravy and I'm not expecting much more. And as
you've seen these last couple of years, you know, in
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the three or four tournaments he's played in, he couldn't
finish them. He could not finish this year at Augusta,
last year at the PGCHA. He has to withdraw because
his body physically can't handle it, which is understandable. He
is put together like an NFL player from the nineteen seventies.
But I think this shows you that for Tiger to
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give his blessing, like even Tiger knows his own golfing mortality,
which he alluded to at his master's press conference, that
he didn't know how many he had left, and we
all want to believe he's just saying that, as his
father would say, let the legend grow. I think he's
just being honest, Like it's kind of over. I don't
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know if I can keep doing this. I'm too prideful.
I'm definitely too accomplished and too rich to ever take
a card, Like I don't need the money. I'm not
doing it to just be out here, Like I helped
create the importance of this sport that became much more universal.
It was much more niche when I was a kid,
and you could argue relative to football or basketball. It's
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still a niche sport, but it is dramatically more popular,
more accessible, and more mainstream because of Tiger. Like Tiger
doesn't need to be firing around like John Daley and
a golf cart and I think it's pretty clear that
when it comes to PGA Tour events or the majors,
he is not going to do that because they would
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give him an exemption without hesitation. But I don't think
he's going down that road now. He might do that
to screw around on the senior tour, you know, with
Ernie Els, and I would said Phil, but obviously Phil's
never going to play in the senior Tour with Daily
and some of those guys, you know, Lee Jansen, you
name the players from his era, but he's not doing
that against the young guns. Too prideful of an individual,
(08:42):
you know. And I think it's it kind of sucks
because I think it kind of becomes reality today that
it's over for the guy, and it's I mean, it's
been over this last year. But you know, I enjoyed
watching him grind his ass off. And I know, like
I said earlier, my two favorite athletes of all times
(09:02):
when I was a kid was Michael Jordan, and then
through junior high through college was watching Tiger Woods. Both
guys beat the living shit out of everyone they played.
They ended careers. The difference is is when Michael's career ended,
it just ended right he went on to then just
he could gamble, smoke and drink full time. Tiger refused
(09:23):
to tap out, and I found the last like half
of the twenty tens of watching Tiger come back from
a fuse back from a guy with the chipping yips
and just grind his ass off to be in the mix.
In twenty eighteen to win multiple majors, Mullinari and him
went down to the wire in the British Open. He
easily could have he was right there with Kopka. Kepka
(09:45):
held him off in the I think it was the
eighteen Uit was a PG Championship, and then to watch
him win the nineteen Masters, I think that stretch is
as was as enjoyable of anything that I remember watching
Tiger up through him winning, you know, leading the President's
Cup and play an abe answer as a as a
(10:06):
playing captain. That was fun and I'm glad I was
of age to really be able to take it all in,
soak it all in and realize what I was watching Now.
I didn't know it was going to end as abruptly
as it did after he got in the car accident,
but I knew what I was watching, and I knew
how special it was that. I'm really glad that that happened,
you know, And I'm glad that I was older when
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that happened. And I think I speak for many that
nineteen masters. I've been lucky enough to go to the
World Series, to Super Bowls, to NBA Finals Game seven
when Lebron beat the Warriors. Been very, very lucky in
my life when it comes to sports to see some
cool shit live. Now, I just watched that on TV,
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but I would put that right up there. I'll never
forget where I was. I'll never forget how I didn't
move for hours like many people probably. And if you
lived on the West Coast, remember they teed off early
because of the weather, and that moment with him hugging
Charlie was pretty cool. It feels like I'm reading a
sports obituary here, but that's kind of what it feels
like today. It really does that. It's almost that's all
(11:12):
she wrote when it comes to when it comes to Tiger,
So you know, good luck to Joe Locava. Hopefully can
speed up one of the slowest players we've ever seen
in golfing history. But they're gonna win. They're they're gonna win.
Candley's been winning and he's been really good. I would
expect him to be even better, you know. And I
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think we've seen some caddy movement over the last several
years of guys going with some young hotshots, and it's
been off to the races, right Bubba's caddy went to
Scottie Scheffler and they fucking dominated. You know. Cam Young
got Web Simpson's caddy. He had kind of been you know,
up and down this year Boom match play finals, you know,
like Jesus, you know, and if it wasn't for the weather,
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who knows, maybe he would have been right there in
the mix with the Masters. So a lot of people
are gona bet on Cam Young in these majors moving forward.
Obviously Bones goes to JT another major, so I would expect.
It pains me to say this, but Patrick Canay to
probably win a major in the next two or three
years and definitely to keep winning these big tournaments. But uh,
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bittersweet day it really is with uh what feels like
the end of the road for Eldrick and the beginning
of kind of a new chapter for Joe Locava. Okay,
back at it again, after I took a bye week
hiatus for basically two weeks sober because, uh, the Zurich
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don't count that one. Even though my guy Davis Riley
finally got over the hump and the Mexico opened that
a guy two to one and a guy five six
to one just took on the entire field and we're
battling it out toward the end. But my guy fee
now he gets another victory. Is I don't know. It
feels like it's tenth and in a year and a
half after going winless forever, but uh, SOB I know
(12:59):
you you stay locked in. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What's up? Dude? First of all, I feel like I
don't even get any credit. I picked Fenw last week.
I get it like it was the hardest pick all year.
But I picked a guy as my favorite outright, I
bet on him.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
He won, and I feel like I don't know it
didn't really happen because I wasn't here on the pod
with you, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know, I appreciate you at least having me back
on this weekend. I assume we're just gonna talk NFL
Draft the whole time. I don't even know we're going golf.
I've done you've done any golf research.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm just watching the draft. You what you want to
break down the Jacksonville Jacks draft.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I kind of do.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Actually, yeah, they actually, in fairness to them, got to
be licking their chops of we're going to own this
division for a long time because the other three teams
are kind of in shambles.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's funny, you know, going up to Jacksonville. I'll go
up there a few times a year, especially Players Championship
Week obviously, and then all times here, and they get
so much support Duval County. They love the Jags up there.
I think with Larrence with ETN that that team's gonna
be good for a while, and the energy around that
place is gonna be really big for a long time too.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I'm pretty sure it's the players, but it might be
Hilton Head two. I feel like the PGA tourists tweeted
out pictures of Trevor Lawrence the last couple of years
coming to the event and kind of saying what's up.
It feels like he's a sneaky golf guy.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
He was at the players. I think it was the
players hanging out with John Rahm. I will tell you
that I was in a local watering hole around midnight
on Friday night of Players week with a couple of
colleagues and it's a packed bar, and all of a sudden,
Trevor Lawrence comes just walking in, just hanging out. I
don't even know if he was drinking or anything, just
kind of sitting on the side. People are like holding
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up their phones taking pictures of them and stuff. I'm like,
it's Trevor Lawrence. Like, I'm not gonna go bother, I'm
not going to talk to him, but like just wild that.
Like you know, Barr and Jack speech at midnight on
a Friday and there's your local quarterback right there hanging out.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well. Speaking of golf, uh, you know, it feels like
the last couple of weeks took it deep breath and
now we really get rolling into multiple majors over the
next month, we have this really elevated event season kicks
back in again. I mean I count we got three
over the next forty plus days with the big purses.
(15:17):
You know, part of the reason I have you back
on because you pick my guy Victor Hobblin this week.
But before we get before we get into the Wells
Fargo and Quail Hollow, which you know you wrote about
pretty eloquently. You know this, this is a pretty cool venue,
obviously pretty historic. Some moments that have happened over the years.
I'm sure you noticed on the UH on Elon's app,
(15:37):
you know Phil, Phil was letting a rip yesterday, cold
nosed and taking on trapnel everywhere, fighting everybody, and listen, like,
obviously the official Golf World rankings, no one takes them
as seriously as we did years ago, just because as
we just saw in the majors, like I don't know
where Brooks ranked, but I know in a big tournament,
like I wouldn't just not pick that guy to be
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in the mix. But like we all knew when they
left this was going to happen. The GOOT situation last
week about how they change the rules on the fly,
and in fairness of Taylor Gooch's like, yeah, we all
understand you're a top twenty five, thirty thirty five player
in the world, but the rules are the rules. You
took the money you left. It feels like they're keep
screaming at the clouds and you've been around golf a
(16:22):
lot longer than me at this level. It sure feels
like the rules aren't changing anytime soon for these guys
to just fly into these tournaments, which like over the
next couple of years that most of them are kind
of going to get asked out of, right.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, So there's a few different components here. First of all,
the official World Golf ranking right now is obsolete. Look
this thing for those who don't know, and you know,
I don't understand quite frankly, why we have to rank everything.
You know, this isn't BuzzFeed. We don't have to rank
the best players every single week. They uses a qualification
process to get into major championships. We have other ways
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of qualifying, and so really I think it's pretty obsolete
these days when you see dust Johnson at number seventy
five in the world. In fact, we were arguing this
for about six months last year. Then we had Davis
Love the Third on our radio show, Hitting the Green
on Serious XM, and we're talking about the world ranking
with him and he goes, whym me just get rid
of it. And it was like someone threw a brick
(17:16):
through my window and hit me in the head.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I was like, WHOA, I've been yelling about like they
gotta do this, and they gotta do that, and these
guys need points, but these guys shouldn't get points, and
we're all going back and forth, and all of a sudden,
he's like, wait, yeah, that's a good solution there. Let's
just not have it. Why do we need it?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
What I would love to see, John, is the major championships.
They probably all have to get together on this, and
they're not going to all be in concert on all
of this. But how about if AUGUSTA National JA of America, USGA,
RNA all went to Live and said, look, your qualified
players are already qualified. Phil won the PGA two years ago.
He's in for a few years anyway. I mean, he
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doesn't need to worry about hitting.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
DJ won the Masters. I mean they got some camp
Smith's good.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Like, those guys are fine. How about we give them,
let's say five other spots in each event and they
can have let's talk our way through it, Let's have
some meetings and some conversations, but let's have a qualifying
process within your schedule where five guys can qualify for
those major championships. Now, what I would really like to
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see is, because this whole lift thing seems buddy bunny.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Now, Let's hey, we're all gonna fly on PGA together,
and we're all gonna hang out at parties together. We're
all wearing the same clothes, cool logo, and when we win,
we're all gonna spray champagne on each other. Well, all
of a sudden, when you and your teammates are battling
it out for the fifth and final qualification into the
US Open, you might not be spraying champagne on the
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other guys so quickly. I think it would forge some
competitiveness out there, which don't think we necessarily see. I mean,
Taylor Gooch just a little while ago tweeted out, what
a great battle with a great person, man Sergio is
the best.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
That was so much fun. Let's do it again. It
seems like they're forging this camaraderie and this common bond
of like us against them, which is fine, but it's
still maintained that because of that, it's more entertainment than competition.
I think that if we start making them play against
each other to get into the majors, all of a sudden,
the competitive balance shifts a little bit, and these guys
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want to go beat each other's brains in as opposed
to well, rooting for each other. Hope you make Bartie,
Hey you too, hope you make eagle Man. Instead of
rooting for each other, Let's go try to beat each other.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
One thing. On Phil's Twitter tirade might be strong, but
he was just I mean, he was letting it fly.
He used the word collusion. Obviously, the Official Golf World
rankings got CBS more money when they have higher rated fields,
But wouldn't you say that moving forward, when they did
these elevated events. The best players are playing in the
biggest events, so the TV networks are now it's worth
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it for them. They're guaranteed to get the best players.
And however many it turns out to be, it feels like,
I don't know, eight elevated events a year separate from
the majors and separate from the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Look, a year and a half ago, Phil was right
about a whole lot of stuff. He went about it
the completely wrong way, but he wasn't wrong. He said, look,
there's money in reserves. How come it's not coming back
to us the players? And I honestly don't know what
the answer to that was, But Phil helped get more
money into the pockets than PGA tour players. That's undeniable.
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This assertion that Phil is making that it was of
the official World Golf Ranking and the.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Points that two are getting more money from CBS and
the other rights soldiers.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Look, I don't know the ins and outs of this,
and there's a lot of you know, legal lees that
goes into the stuff. But don't think he's right about this.
Phil has been harping on this point for a long
time now. I don't think he's right about it.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But again it goes back to my original point of Hey,
how about we just get rid of the damn and
we don't need it and we can move on because
it seems to be causing a lot more problems and
solutions right now.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The Ryder Cup now has access. Is it just the
Americans or can the Europeans take as well if they want,
if they so choose that they live guys.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I believe they can. That's going to be fair, do.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You and do you expect reinterest makes more sense? You know,
Americans could easily fill out a team if they so choose,
without you know, dipping in the live pond. But it
sure feels like the Europeans, you know, especially Sergio, if
he's going to be playing well, would he be a
lock to be on that team or is there too
much I would say animosity, not from the players necessarily
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because John Robb's been outspoken, but just the powers that be,
what's what's your expectation.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Luke Donald is the captain of the European team. Luke
Donald and Sergio Garcia have teamed together and a lot
of Ryder Cups over the years. Luke Donald very u
interestingly has said he doesn't necessarily want live players on
the team. They're not really welcome to part of it.
He's also said his brother, who caddies for Brendan Steel
on Live, would be a welcome addition and could certainly
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help the team in the team room.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And I'm like, it seems like you're speaking out of
both sides of your mouth. And I really like lu Donald.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I've become friendly with Loop Donald over the years, and
I think he is a really good, really smart person
when it comes to this stuff. But I feel like
a lot of the stems from no one really knows,
no one really knows what to say, they don't know
how to say it. They don't know what's exactly taking
place on a regular basis. Sorry, I'm getting a text
(22:34):
now that well, we'll get to it. We start talking
about the Wells farg a little inside news.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, okay, okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
All right, I'm looking down. I feel like Adam Schefter here,
I'm on camera and I'm looking at my phone and
I got breaking news coming in. But look, as far
as that's concerned, that Johnson is very adamant about not
being in favor of live. He is very pro PGA tour.
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If a Brooks Kepka goes and wins the US Open,
can he leave him off that team? He may qualify
just based on that. But if he finishes eighth in
the points and has a major championship victory, can you
leave him off the team. That's going to be a
really difficult decision. That's going to be very, very interesting
to watch. I think as we start moving towards Ryder
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Cup later in the year, well.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It sure feels like regardless of whoever the captain is
of the President's Cup or the Ryder Cup, Eldrick Tiger
Woods plays a big pseudo role behind the scenes of
being a leader of the group, so you know, he's
pretty anti live, you know, and you speaking a Tiger,
you had an incredible tweet the other day when you
(23:48):
just quote or last week when it was announced that
he had the surgery. I mean, the first line of
his statement was, I mean it sounds like a surgery
someone that played for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the nineteen
seventies would get. I mean, it's just how can this
your expectations moving forward? I mean, do we see Tiger
at another major this year? Obviously the PGA feels like
that's done, but US Open, LACC, the British Open, I mean,
(24:13):
is he a one tournament guy? But itsually moving forward?
It feels dire, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
So this segues very nicely into my phone blowing up
right now and getting some news here. Todd Lewis from
Golf Channel tweeted about a half an hour ago that Joebacava,
Tiger's Caddy's on the bag of Patrick Cantley this week.
Matt Minister has been Patrick's caddy for a few years now.
He's very good caddy in his own right. I'm getting
(24:37):
text right now that sounds like this may not be
a one week deal. That this might be more of
a long term than a short term deal, that Joebacava
is going to caddy for Patrick Cantley, And if that
is indeed the case, I think we can read the
tea leaves pretty easily here and say that Tiger ain't
coming back anytime soon. For everything I've heard, Major championship
season is over for him this year. It's a done deal.
(25:00):
The next time I think we'd see him would be
either the PNC Championship, if Charlie can get him out
there and get him healthy and you know, talk Dad
into playing there, or the Hero World Challenge which he
hosts the Bahamas. But he's only gonna do those if
he's healthy enough. If he's not healthy, he's not gonna
go out and try to play those. And so, for me,
(25:20):
my big takeaway after the Masters, and this was even
before the surgery was announced, but certainly moves it in
this direction after the surgery as well, John, is that
I'm not saying Tiger's done.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I'm not saying he can't win again, but I think
the probability of Tiger never playing again is now greater
than the probability of Tiger winning again.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And so again, I want to go over that so
people understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying Tiger will
never win. I'm not saying Tiger is done. I'm just
saying that if you asked me, you know, is it
fifty to fifty between winning again and never playing?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And said, now, it's probably closer to sixty forty, maybe
seventy thirty, and that, you know, for the first time,
really I came.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
To this conclusion after the Masters. That don't mean he
can't win, just there's a greater probability that we never
see him playing golf again on a competitive basis.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You know a little bit. It feels like, I mean
different just because the status of Tiger Woods. But I
remember when I said, well, did Web Simpson's caddy just
take off on him for the young hotshot guy that's
gonna make more money? And he said no, I think
it was much more Web telling him time to go.
That's clearly what this would be if Tiger and him,
you know, because Joe's been obviously he wasn't just gonna
leave Tiger without his blessing. But these last couple of
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years have been pretty you know, tough. You know, he
doesn't work you know, and I'm sure Tiger, you know,
for a notorious cheap guy, probably still takes care of him.
But this Patrick can't lay. He might be a slow
player and hard to watch, he is an ATM machine
and one of the best young players on tour.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I mean that's it probably takes a bag like that
for a guy like Joel the confident for whatever reason,
Like no one ever comes up to you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
John, you know, he meets someone somewhere, they go, hey,
how much you make this year? He talks about that
for whatever reason. If you're a caddy on the PGA.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Tour, people think it's fair game to be like, so,
where's your income coming from? How much you make it,
what kind of percentage you get from those FedEx Cup profits? Like,
like he talks about their salary in those terms. People
think just because you're a caddy, then we get to
talk about your money. From everything I know and everything
I've heard, Joelakov is doing just fine. That Joe doesn't
necessarily need to be out there on a weekly basis.
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That said, it would probably take a bag like Patrick Cantley.
We saw this from Bones Mackay a couple of years ago,
where he'd caddied for Phil Mickelson for twenty five years,
went to work for NBC. He wasn't hurting by any means.
It was gonna take a big bag. It was gonna
take a big time player to get him back caddying,
and Justin Thomas was that guy, and they won a
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Major together last year, of course, and I'm gonna do
other big things that I believe very very soon. For Joelkava,
my guess is that there might have been five players
in the world who can call him up and say, hey,
you want to come back. And again, I'm not saying
this is a done deal. I'm just getting sort of
little rumors that are being texted to me. But if
indeed this is more than just a one week thing,
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it probably took one of those guys, and it probably
has Tiger's blessing too. My guess is that I don't
see Joe being the kind of person who just goes,
screw you, Tiger, you're not playing. I'm gonna go caddy
for someone else. Steve Williams did that years ago.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Remember Steve Williams, when Tiger was hurt, said all right,
I'm gonna go caddy for Adam Scott for a little bit,
and Tiger's like, okay, well make it longer than a
little bit, because you ain't coming back to me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And so that's happened before. I can't imagine that's what
this case is, but we see this a lot lately.
Your guy Davis Riley was able to pull James Edmondson,
who had caddied for Ryan Palmer for twenty years, Tomer
on the tail end of his career, Riley just starting out.
He's gonna be a money maker for a long time.
Omer and Edmonson are our best buddies. Palmer said to him, like, look,
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you got to do if you're gonna go make more
money with this kid, don't make more money for your family.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I think here's where you would know it was serious, right, Like, obviously,
if this is just a one off, maybe, but if
he starts doing this more consistently, you would not have
a guy that leaves you in the majors right when
Tiger plays moving forward, So that would that might be
the telltale sign that it might be all she wrote
for Elder And honestly, at the Masters, Tiger kind of
talked about like, I this could be it, not just
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because I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Right. At some point, we have to listen to Time.
I mean we Tiger keeps telling us like, hey, father,
Time's undefeated. I'm not gonna be out here forever. If
I can't go out and feel like I can win
a golf tournament, I'm not just showing up to be
a ceremonial golfer. And I think most of us have
looked at me, like, yeah, okay, what we're gonna You're
gonna be out here when you're sixty eight and still
have a chance to winning this. It's not true. And
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I think the end is a lot closer than people realize.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Because he's come back so many times, because after four
back surgeries he went out and won the twenty nineteen Masters,
that we all just assume, Okay, he's out for the
year and he'll have another surgery and watch out next
year's Masters. He's going to win that thing. At some point,
all good things come to an end. And I hope
I'm wrong about this, and I hope it's it's not
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the end for Tiger. But if you listen to him,
he has not minced words about this whatsoever over the
last couple of years that. Look, I ain't gonna be
out here forever. I'm not going to keep playing petitive golf,
you know, five times a year if I feel like
I can't win and I feel like I'm not healthy
enough to do it, and so I again, it just
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wouldn't surprise me if if it's it, if you just
can't go anymore and can't do it anymore and doesn't
feel like he can go out and contend, there's really
I think about it. What's the point for Tiger? What
would be the point for him?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It doesn't need the money. I mean, it's just his health.
I mean, he can't. It's not worth not being able
to walk.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I mean, so maybe he plays the Masters every year,
and he comes back and he grinds to make the cut,
and then he withdraws on Saturday morning because he's too
injured to go out and play two more rounds. At
some point you go that you s ain't worth the squeeze.
I'm not doing this anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, before we get into some of the wells Fargo picks,
I would say, big picture on cam'ta if this eventually becomes,
you know, a permanent thing. I never pick him for majors,
partly because I don't really like him. I'm not to
say he's a bad guy, but I just don't like
this pace of play. Watch him play it, you would
say it would feel pretty inevitable in the next two
or three years that they might get over the hump
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in one of the Big four tournaments, because he's right
there right now. It's like, well, you see it with
Cam Young, You've seen it with some of these other guys, you, Scotti, Scheffler.
Once you get one of those top guys and they're
already right there, it's like, oh shit, the floodgates might open,
which is my worst nightmare. I can't watch a guy
over the next five years win a couple of majors.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
He's almost going to accidentally win a major at some point.
He's just too good. He's really, really talented. I don't
know that. It's like I said, Matt Minister is a
very good caddy, and he's been with him and he
knows Patrick really well. This is not a matter of like, well,
he had some guy who couldn't do.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yordages and didn't know how to club him, and now
Joe Lolikova is gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Come in this week, and he's gonna be great. I mean,
I said the same thing years ago. John Robb was
working with Adam Hayes, and all of a sudden, Bones mcpie.
This is when Bones and Phil stopped working together, and everyone' said, oh,
Bones's gonna go work with Rob. Rob needs a great caddy.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And I was like, oh, Adam Hayes a pretty damn
good caddy, and that has worked out for him.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And so it's not always just hey, change your cat.
You go to a big name caddy and you start
winning golf tournaments. But Patrick can't Ley's good enough that
at some point he was gonna win with his old caddy.
If indeed this is a new caddy for him and
it's a long term thing, he's going to win with
him too. I tend to agree with you that I
look at him at the majors and he's a nice
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top five, nice top ten ticket for me. I don't
know that I'm gonna be playing. Can't lay outright for
any major's coming up very soon, because he just looks
a little looks a little nervous, anxious, gets a little slow.
There's a lot of things going on.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's very analytical, kind of guy, analytical kind of player,
and you can kind of see the wheels turning as
he's trying to maneuver his way around the golf course in.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
The back nine of a major championship Sunday. But that said,
he's good enough that at some point he's going to win.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
He just is totally agree speaking of this week, Wells Fargo,
you picking my guy Hovelin though I checked it at
his odds are going up and up, Like his odds
are really high right now. Another guy that you like
a lot though, And speaking of caddy movement, Ricky lost
his caddy to Tom Kim and then Ricky's come storming
back and looks like he's going to resurrect his career
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and be a really good player again. I kind of
like him closer thirty five forty to one odds this year.
But do you think just Aaron Rodgers, you know, he
just needed a change, Ricky? Was it just time for
a caddy change? And like, was he gonna resurrect his
career regardless whether he the guy stayed or left or
was it just you know, it's just part of the
evolution of this sport.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
This is a really tough one for me. I know
Ricky really well. I've got to know Joe Scovering really well,
who caddied for him since his first career event on
the PGA Tour. So they worked really really well together
for a long time. I remember seeing them after a
miss cut at the Travelers last year. It was Friday,
early afternoon. They played in the morning, and after they
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missed the cut. I mean, the two of them weren't
really talking a lot of times. You missed the cut,
You're kind of going over all the shots with your caddy.
What could we have done better? What can we take
from this? And it was just dead silence between them.
It was very awkward. I just kind of walked away
after a second. They kind of put their bag down
near me, and I was kind of standing there and
I was kind of stuck in the moment, and all
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of a sudden, you know, I just became the air
around them was a little tense. And so I'd like
to think that they're both good enough guys. They're both
good enough at their jobs, and at some point it
was gonna come around for him no matter what. But
maybe a little different scenery for each of those guys
has helped. Obviously, Joe's already caddied Tom Kim to a
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victory out there, and Ricky's playing better golf right now.
And I see this as like the perfect storm for
Ricky Fowler. He's won this golf tournament before. He's got
four top tens and nine career starts at Quill, which
doesn't even include a top ten at twenty seventeen EGA Championship.
He's playing really well. All the numbers are good.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Everything you look for, ball striking wise has been really good.
I think it's a really good week.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I like everything about Ricky except for that thirty five
to one number. It's just too short for me. I'll
play it, but I still would have liked forty five
or fifty to one. I thought that's what we're getting
coming into the week. Maybe if Scheffler and Rom were
in the field, everyone kind of backs up a little
bit and maybe we would have got that forty five
to one. Thirty five is short, but I'm on him.
I'm still gonna have it. I think he can win.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
He is golf course driving accuracy as much as it
is a second shot golf.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Of course, it's really tee to green.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
It's just give me your guys who can hit it
long and straight. Give me your guys who could hit.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Mid and long irons really well, it's just a slog
of a golf course. I heard it was very windy
out there yesterday. I'm not sure if that wind is
going to hold throughout the week. But you know, we
had Carl Paulson playing in the program yesterday. On our
radio show, CP said he went to go fix a
ball mark with the tee on the fourteenth green and
the tea broke. That's how firm these greens are right now.
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So it just takes a really good ball striker. It's
one of the reasons why I love Victor Howland tee
to green. He's been fantastic so far this year. I
see a lot of comparisons to Tony Fenow, who if
you were only paying attention to the leader boards going
into last.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Week, you have said, eh, really uninspired year for Tony Fenow.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
But we have all these strokes game stats.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
What they told us was that going into last week,
Tony Fenaw was the fourth best player on the PGA
Tour this season, behind all only Scheffler.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Can't lay in wrong and so that's pretty damn good
at some point he was two. For some of that,
they call it positive regression in the industry, which is
like oxymoronic, does make really any sense, except that it
sort of does make sense, which is, he's going to
start playing better based on the numbers the results are coming.
It's like a pitcher being five and twelve with a
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two seventy two era. You're like, he's actually pitching. Well,
you got a bad record. At some point they're gonna
put up runs for him, and he's gonna start getting
wins as well. I see both Holin and Fowler fitting
that same profile, which is the performance has sort of
outclassed the results for the most part this year. Not
that the results have been bad, but the results could
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be even better based on how they're performing. And I
think it happens this week the Gala.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I mean at this point, and I said this on
my podcast yesterday, but uh, for Thigala, and I throw
Keith Mitchell in there as well.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I could mention him every week, but at some point
going to send me a seasoned assist letter. They're just training.
Order is coming. I like both these guys every single week,
and if I mentioned him every week, it's like I'm
just crying wolf at some point, So I'll reserve judgment
for the weeks when I really like him. Gall's gonna
win the Memorial tournament in about a month at Jack's Place,
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so you know, I'll wait to talk him up there.
But yeah, I like him every week because he's really good.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well, when I heard you describe the conditions of the course,
it sounded like guys from across the pond. I see
two guys creeping up toward fifty to one, and Lowry
and Fleetwood just guys that are comfortable, maybe not to win,
but just top five's, top tens that are comfortable in
that environment if it gets hard.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I like Fleetwood a little bit more than Lowry Fleetwood's.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Fleetwood's played well this year, especially the last couple.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Of months, and he's played well here. Here's what I
look at, guys who have not just played well at
a specific golf course in the past, but how are
they playing when they played well this golf course. So
Tammy Fleetwood has posted some niceries alts at Quail, but
he's posted nice results, not when well. He was coming in.
He had three top tens in his previous three starts,
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and so yeah, he's just playing well, and so he
did it again that week. Tommy Fleetwood has posted good
results of this golf course where he wasn't playing well
coming in, wasn't playing well going out. To me, that's
a sign that the guy is a good course fit
and should play well at that place. I like Fleetwood
more than Lowry when we come to that.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
But again, if you're looking for a guy from across
the pond who's gonna just ball strike his way to
the leaderboard this week, it's Hoveland, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Get you out of here on this. I don't know
if you guys have talked about this on the radio
show or the podcast, but about the Ryder Cup team,
and obviously, you know we mentioned with Brooks and DJ.
If we just assume maybe those guys won't be involved.
DJ clearly I don't even know if cares anymore. Brooks
could win his way where it's gonna be hard to
keep him off. But let's say he doesn't win. One
of the majors are the Galla and Ricky, two guys
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that are trending to just have a chance to be
a captain's pick.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You know. So I'm gonna do a little work here
because I hate this. This is like when we go
over the NBA All Star team and we sit there
and go, WHW can so and so be left off?
And then you go, well, who are you gonna take
off that team? You start looking Wow, I'm not sure
we take off. So I'm just gonna go straight down
the world ranking. I started this conversation by saying the
world ranking is obsolete, and now I'm gonna go down the
world ranking and look at the Americans. We've got, all right,
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Scheffler can't Ley Xander Homa Salataurus is out, so he's
got He's still ninth in the world. For some reason,
he's out. Gordon Final, So that's six right there.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You'd think Ca cam Young, Cam Young is gonna be
on there.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
You think Sam Burns is there, Morikwa probably JT cam Young.
So that's ten right there. So to me, we've got
ten spots that look, unless there's an injury, unless a
guy really starts slumping, those ten should be on the team.
From there, it's you.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, really quick, really quick, justin Thomas on scholarship for
this year.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, JT's on. JT's the Heart and Soul team.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Okay, I'm I'm not saying he shouldn't be on. I'm
just saying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I think it's gonna be a good week for JT.
I think that the JT fades are a little overblown
right now. He hasn't played great, but it's not like
this is some lingering thing. I think he needs to
take a little the internal pressure off himself. He'll start
playing better and.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Get any case after those ten, whether it's a live
guy like a DJ or Koepka or Taylor Gooch, We've
got Kiddy Yama, Keegan Bradley, Sahith, Billy Horsel, Tom Hogy,
Russell Henley, Brian harm and Chris Carr. So in any case, yes,
those two other spots are very ripe for the taking.
And if you told me right now you think it's
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gonna be Thigala and Fowler, I have no problems with
that whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Like it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, Let's enjoy the Wells Fargo and then the PJA
Championships right around the corner. And I'm pretty excited about
on that one. I already got my eye on several guys.
I actually have some intriguing, tasty odds.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Okay, Okay, I can't wait to hear you got email
a little taste of that before we go.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, I mean, well, one guy in his odds aren't
super great, but I think Cam Young as long as
he's somewhere twenty five thirty to one. Just you know,
obviously you're gonna have to bet probably Scheffler or rom
And to feel pretty, you're gonna have to have some
exposure on one of those two guys.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
But you're gonna have to and listen.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
As long as I can get Jason Day forty five
fifty to one range, I'm gonna keep dabbling. I'm gonna
keep dabbling.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, it should be a good place for Day Gary
Gary Woodland one hundred to one.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'm not there on Woodland yet. Cam Yon is a
long shot, and one guy right around Cam Young's number
the guy that I have earmarked for that event right now,
and again we're two weeks away. We'll see what happens.
Watch out for Sunjay in I don't think anyone quite
realizes just how good Sunjay is. He's about ready to
win a big one as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
No, he's a name that people hammer in the betting markets,
and it feels like he's gonna bust through Yep, big right,
He's gonna be a major champion in his career. That
feels inevitable. Okay, so we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Thanks buddy.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Get in the mailbag. At golo pod, we answered a
bunch last week, so we are running a little low
and I will fire through your questions right now at
golo pod is the old Instagram Our first question from
Mike question for the pod. I'm transitioning from military to
the business world. How important is golfing? Learning to golf
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as far as creating relationships and getting deals done? Also,
any suggestions to someone completely new to golfing as far
as how to learn and not pick up bad habits, videos, books, programmers, programs,
beginning clubs. Well. Overall, I think YouTube can solve a
lot of problems. So any question you have regarding golf
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clubs your own swing, type in that little question to
the second biggest circuit chartch engine in the world, YouTube,
and that can help with golf. In terms of business
and golf, I think the one thing it has going
for it is it incorporates a lot of things. When
you're outside the sun shining on you, and two you're
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just doing something. Even though it's really hard, kind of fun.
So it just lightens people up.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
If you go to a business meeting, even if it's
not formal at someone's office, you meet someone for coffee,
you meet someone for cocktails, you know, it can be hard,
it can be awkward, right, It can be difficult depending
on someone else's personality, I would say, and most people
would agree. If the other person just has somewhat interest
in golf, they like playing it, they enjoy just doing
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something to instead of just sitting around. It just lightens
it loosens people up. So when people say that a
lot of deals get done on the golf course, I
think a lot of it is just people relax a
little bit, you know, and then what naturally happens on
the golf course, probably order a couple of beers. So
it's a double whammy. You get a little liquid courage
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in you if you're trying to do a deal, you
loosen them up a little bit, and everyone's just kind
of having a good time. And it's an organic way
to bullshit.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Sometimes in an office setting, over a coffee, in a
meeting room, it can just be a little weird. Over
a zoom, it can just be a little awkward, I'd
argue in a golf cart, especially that's where you spend,
it kind of forces you to not be awkward and
just put your guard down and relax. So I would
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say it definitely has benefits. Now obviously depends on your industry,
but for most industries, a lot of people play golf
for a reason. The Mexico Open was fantastic and just
glossed over it. Love seeing Feen now win. My question
is do you think Rom is the leader of the PGA?
Roy just disappeared? Since Rom's Masters and he played in
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multiple elevated events and now a non elevated event. The
dude doesn't quit except this week he's taking it off.
Just wish he showed some more personality because he's the
next PGA elite stud. Well. I think overall Rom is
currently better than Rory McIlroy. So just in terms of
one guy is better than the other, Rom is a
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better player than Rory, even though most times when they
play together their odds are relatively the same. I think
we all have to agree that if it's the Masters,
if it's an elevated event, if it's anything so far
this year, you feel better about betting on John Roum.
He's more invested, he's less like I saw some quotes
today that Rory had with some different reporters, like he
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was exhausted, he needed a mental break. John Ram sure
doesn't feel exhausted now. John's younger. He didn't completely speak
for the PGA Tour, but he played a pretty big
role last year. It was like, well, Rory's the pseudo
commissioner and he kind of was Bull was Rom like
the CFO to the commissioner. Rom was always talking. They
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offered Roum four hundred dollars. He's told him to kick Rocks.
He was very very open about his take on liv
golf and his desire to stay on the PGA Tour.
So I'm with you leader. You know, Rory's just kind
of the verbal leader for sure. I think Rom is
kind of the player right now. You know, he's I
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don't know where he will finish, you know, big picture,
but you know, the most accomplished non filler tiger on
the PGA Tour, and I guess Brooks as well are
Jordan and Rory because of the majors, because of the wins,
Rom's coming for him, Rom's coming for him if I
would expect Rom. I think it's very plausible for him
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to win another major this season, like this season could end.
Rom might make forty million dollars this season, win multiple majors,
and then all of a sudden, there's three and we
go got is Rom. If I was a betting man,
Rom's gonna finish closer to seven than two. So I
don't think he's done. And if I was a betting man,
Rory might have one more in am. I'm not as
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confident on Rory though. Sometimes he can play with you
because you think he's not playing well, then all of
a sudden he'll win. Quick follow up on Gooch USGA.
If the USGA justifies excluding Gooch because the PGA deemed
him to be no longer eligible and the USGA wants
to respect that decision of another tour, why would Goots
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then be eligible to qualify for the US Open under
another criteria. In other words, Gooch can still get in
if the world ranking remains in the top sixty after
the PGA Championship. But why would the USGA allow someone
suspended by the PGA tour in period if their justification
was they simply are honoring the protocol of the PGA.
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What if a player wasn't eligible under PGA Tour for
violation of the pd rule. This is getting really deep.
I think the PGA Tour once he was deemed ineligible
for the Tour Championship, which if you qualify for the
Tour Chachampionship the top thirty, like Thigala, you get into
all the majors. So Gooch qualified for that last year,
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but because he left to live, he was actually ineligible
to play in the thing.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Remember he was like down the street in his car
when the ruling went the other way. Now we all
have to agree, Taylor Gooch is a top thirty player
in the world. Taylor Gooch should be playing in all
the majors, but right now he doesn't fit the criteria.
Now he can just qualify for the US Open, right
There are qualifiers all over America. It's why it's called
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the United States Open. Friend of mine, neighbor of mine
growing up, Tyler Raber did that, qualified his way into
a US Open. So if he can do it, Taylor Gooch,
sure as hell can. Now I've heard a lot of like, well,
if Taylor Gooch is this good, shouldn't he be able to.
It's not that easy, you know. I Mean, you get
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a couple of wayward drives when you're playing like you're
not going to. But I I do understand where Phil's
coming from. Like, it's not about Phil. Phil's in these
majors because he won at Kiawa. He's got a lifetime
exemption to the Masters, He's eligible for the British Open
until he's sixty, obviously, the PGA Championship he's playing in
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for the foreseeable future, and the US Open. But like Taylor,
Goot should be in the majors. But like this was
the controversial element of Live. Once you guys left, you
guys were gonna lose some of your status. Now you
can bitch and moan after the fact, but the rules
are the rules. Like some things in life, we can
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push the envelope. And I'm a big believer in that.
I've been pushing the envelope in things my entire life.
I'm sure many people listening have as well. But sometimes
when you do that and you just go, we'll figure out,
we'll pick up the pieces after we break through this wall,
whatever it may be, professionally right, sometimes you look back
and you're like well now it's time to well, no,
it's actually not gonna work. That's not gonna happen. And
(51:02):
I think some of those guys are staring at that reality.
And Taylor Gooch obviously is the most unique because he
was this young up and comer who was trending to
be a top twenty player and he left and someone
texts me today. You know, in Australia they have like
a forty five percent tax rate. So when Gooch won
(51:24):
the four million dollars, it was actually a little more.
Because his team won in Australia for let's say five
million bucks, he ended up getting taxed at a super
high rate in Australia, and then based off whatever he
has left, he gets tax off that when he gets
back to America. So he actually only took home like
one point four million dollars, which is still a ton
(51:45):
of money. But when you factor in, like he just
made four point seventy five million dollars, to only look
at your bank account and see whatever it was like
one three five or one four five gotta piss him
off a little bit. But I don't think these guys
are geting screwed right now. Now, me and Sobel talked
about it. They're gonna figure something out. But sometimes when
(52:05):
you make your bed, you gotta lay in it. And
they got highly paid and compensated to make this jump.
Taylor Gooch knew what he was getting into that it
might not work out. Now, he's probably optimistic. He was
probably hopeful, but sometimes you know, you hope a little
too long, reality doesn't turn in your favor. And that's
(52:29):
right now. Sucks for him, But you know, I would
imagine he wouldn't have made Who knows, maybe he would
have won on the PGA Tour this year. He's a
really good player. He's a really really good player, but
I don't feel that much sympathy for him right now. Now.
Eventually they're gonna have to change this, but like most
things in life, things don't happen immediately. Things take some time.
(52:52):
Right like, eventually in a year, maybe we'll have the
way for the live guys who aren't you know, on
these that don't have unlimited status because they've won a major,
or their world ranking is still really high or whatever.
Maybe they have a way to qualify in but right
now they don't, Like I don't expect the the golf
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world just to immediately change for them. He'd be like, well,
just it's only been whatever, eight months. It hasn't been
that long. So I think we do need to pump
the brakes a little bit about all the complaining from Phil.
It's like, holy fuck, Phil, You've made so much money.
How do you complain so much? Yeah? I like you,
but geez, Louise, you just always pointing the finger at
(53:35):
someone else. Just how about you just enjoy yourself and
the money that you just got from Saudi Arabia, which
is a lot. Audios, have a good week. We will
have a football podcast come out on Friday. Turns out
Jordan Love got an extension, not the fifth year option.
I will have some thoughts on that come Friday as well.
(53:56):
As I just saw Aaron Rodgers tell McAfee that Garrett
Wilson is pretty pretty good. Later
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What is going on? Everybody? Jeam Middlecop Golo Pod, Big
show coming up. Talk to Sobl. We didn't do anything
last week about everything going on under the sun. News
broke while I was on with him about Tiger Woods
and Joela Cava, and that is what I'm going to
open my show up with my take. At the time,
(00:33):
me and Sobol didn't know that it was like an
official long term partnership. But obviously as the day went on,
Tiger Woods and Joela Cava that things run its course
because of tiger Wood's injury, and he gave him his
blessing and I think that marks the unofficial end for
the cat. But uh, we'll talk about that off the top.
(00:54):
We will talk to Sobal about everything going on, world
golf rankings, Tiger Woods, Lacava, you name it, some gambling
this week, Ricky Fowler awfully tasty, Tommy Fleetwood a little
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the Zurich and then the Mexico Open, even if it's
Tony Fena and John Ron battling it out. But well
(01:38):
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the day, and that is its official that Joe Lacava,
a fellow Bald Brother, enormous NFL fan, he's a big
New York Giants fan, will no longer caddy for Tiger Woods.
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And last week we had opened the show with there
was breaking news that Tiger needed a surgery. And it's
pretty clear that Tiger Woods season, when it comes to
the Majors, which really is just his golfing season now,
is probably over. And I think last week I had
talked about, like, I think his career because last year
(03:07):
we thought, list we're never gonna get a season out
of Tiger beside the four Majors, separate from the tournament
with Charlie, which let's face, he only has got a
couple more years. Charlie's gonna go to college. But and
maybe we'll get a tournament here, a tournament there. This
year he played riff right, so maybe we'd get at
most five or six tournaments. And then we saw again
this year at the Masters, his foot just kind of
(03:28):
go and he couldn't walk and he withdrew. And that
makes me really sad because I think Tiger Woods, and
I tweeted this out in my thirty eight years of life.
There are three guys that I put on a pedestal
of being all time great competitors. And we have seen
great entertainers, guys that you would feel very good about
paying to see in all sports. But I don't think
when it comes to winning. I didn't live through Jack Right,
(03:51):
I didn't really live Joe Montana. I didn't live those
seventies Pittsburgh Steeler teams or Bill Russell. It's Michael, It's Tiger,
and it's Brady are the three greatest competitors slash winners
of my lifetime. And what makes Tiger unique is those
other two guys were not quite phenomenons like him. I mean,
this guy was on television at two years old. This
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guy was on Sports Illustrated in his mid teens. This guy.
The one of the big companies at the time built
a golfing brand which they didn't have much to do
with around the guy, and it changed Nike. I mean,
the two most influential important people to the history of
Phil Knight are Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. I honestly
don't even think it's debatable. And when you think about
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when you go to work, when you go out on
a date when you go play golf. I mean that
just kind of performance polo is something that is part
of our culture now. And as someone whose parents made
them wear collared shirts before nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety seven,
they did not feel or look like what Nike created,
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and then everyone followed suit and copied. But what I'm
alluding to is like it's unofficially over for Tiger Woods.
I don't know how else you could come up with
any conclusion to today that Jolacava, his longtime caddy, is
now officially on the bag, not just part time, not
(05:24):
just taking a tournament or two, but full time with
Patrick Cantley. Who listen anyone that follows golf closely, like
Patrick Cantley is not the most enjoyable player to watch.
But there is no disputing and there is definitely no
argument in terms of this guy's ability to print cash
because he is an ATM machine, and he's eventually going
(05:47):
to win a major or two, and he's gonna win
a ton more tournaments, and he's gonna make a ton
of money, finish in top fives and top tens in
big events. He's an elite player. There's really no way
around it is he fun to watch, of course not
would he be fun for me or you to play with?
Probably not. He plays very slow, but I completely understand it.
Joe Lacava going with you know, I think it's fair
(06:10):
to say a top five American. I mean, he's definitely
one of the better players in all of professional golf,
that includes the live tour. So but I don't think
he goes if Tiger was going to play five six
times a year. But I think it's fair to say
after the surgery last week, and if you've read up
on it, it was to kind of cure the arthritis,
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but also it's going to limit his mobility. This season's
probably done. But I even think moving forward to assume
that we're going to get four majors, I no longer
assume that. I think, at best, for the next several years,
we get Tiger at the Masters and everything else there
is gravy and I'm not expecting much more. And as
you've seen these last couple of years, you know, in
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the three or four tournaments he's played in, he couldn't
finish them. He could not finish this year at Augusta,
last year at the PGCHA. He has to withdraw because
his body physically can't handle it, which is understandable. He
is put together like an NFL player from the nineteen seventies.
But I think this shows you that for Tiger to
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give his blessing, like even Tiger knows his own golfing mortality,
which he alluded to at his master's press conference, that
he didn't know how many he had left, and we
all want to believe he's just saying that, as his
father would say, let the legend grow. I think he's
just being honest, Like it's kind of over. I don't
(07:34):
know if I can keep doing this. I'm too prideful.
I'm definitely too accomplished and too rich to ever take
a card, Like I don't need the money. I'm not
doing it to just be out here, Like I helped
create the importance of this sport that became much more universal.
It was much more niche when I was a kid,
and you could argue relative to football or basketball. It's
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still a niche sport, but it is dramatically more popular,
more accessible, and more mainstream because of Tiger. Like Tiger
doesn't need to be firing around like John Daley and
a golf cart and I think it's pretty clear that
when it comes to PGA Tour events or the majors,
he is not going to do that because they would
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give him an exemption without hesitation. But I don't think
he's going down that road now. He might do that
to screw around on the senior tour, you know, with
Ernie Els, and I would said Phil, but obviously Phil's
never going to play in the senior Tour with Daily
and some of those guys, you know, Lee Jansen, you
name the players from his era, but he's not doing
that against the young guns. Too prideful of an individual,
(08:42):
you know. And I think it's it kind of sucks
because I think it kind of becomes reality today that
it's over for the guy, and it's I mean, it's
been over this last year. But you know, I enjoyed
watching him grind his ass off. And I know, like
I said earlier, my two favorite athletes of all times
(09:02):
when I was a kid was Michael Jordan, and then
through junior high through college was watching Tiger Woods. Both
guys beat the living shit out of everyone they played.
They ended careers. The difference is is when Michael's career ended,
it just ended right he went on to then just
he could gamble, smoke and drink full time. Tiger refused
(09:23):
to tap out, and I found the last like half
of the twenty tens of watching Tiger come back from
a fuse back from a guy with the chipping yips
and just grind his ass off to be in the mix.
In twenty eighteen to win multiple majors, Mullinari and him
went down to the wire in the British Open. He
easily could have he was right there with Kopka. Kepka
(09:45):
held him off in the I think it was the
eighteen Uit was a PG Championship, and then to watch
him win the nineteen Masters, I think that stretch is
as was as enjoyable of anything that I remember watching
Tiger up through him winning, you know, leading the President's
Cup and play an abe answer as a as a
(10:06):
playing captain. That was fun and I'm glad I was
of age to really be able to take it all in,
soak it all in and realize what I was watching Now.
I didn't know it was going to end as abruptly
as it did after he got in the car accident,
but I knew what I was watching, and I knew
how special it was that. I'm really glad that that happened,
you know, And I'm glad that I was older when
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that happened. And I think I speak for many that
nineteen masters. I've been lucky enough to go to the
World Series, to Super Bowls, to NBA Finals Game seven
when Lebron beat the Warriors. Been very, very lucky in
my life when it comes to sports to see some
cool shit live. Now, I just watched that on TV,
(10:50):
but I would put that right up there. I'll never
forget where I was. I'll never forget how I didn't
move for hours like many people probably. And if you
lived on the West Coast, remember they teed off early
because of the weather, and that moment with him hugging
Charlie was pretty cool. It feels like I'm reading a
sports obituary here, but that's kind of what it feels
like today. It really does that. It's almost that's all
(11:12):
she wrote when it comes to when it comes to Tiger,
So you know, good luck to Joe Locava. Hopefully can
speed up one of the slowest players we've ever seen
in golfing history. But they're gonna win. They're they're gonna win.
Candley's been winning and he's been really good. I would
expect him to be even better, you know. And I
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think we've seen some caddy movement over the last several
years of guys going with some young hotshots, and it's
been off to the races, right Bubba's caddy went to
Scottie Scheffler and they fucking dominated. You know. Cam Young
got Web Simpson's caddy. He had kind of been you know,
up and down this year Boom match play finals, you know,
like Jesus, you know, and if it wasn't for the weather,
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who knows, maybe he would have been right there in
the mix with the Masters. So a lot of people
are gona bet on Cam Young in these majors moving forward.
Obviously Bones goes to JT another major, so I would expect.
It pains me to say this, but Patrick Canay to
probably win a major in the next two or three
years and definitely to keep winning these big tournaments. But uh,
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bittersweet day it really is with uh what feels like
the end of the road for Eldrick and the beginning
of kind of a new chapter for Joe Locava. Okay,
back at it again, after I took a bye week
hiatus for basically two weeks sober because, uh, the Zurich
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don't count that one. Even though my guy Davis Riley
finally got over the hump and the Mexico opened that
a guy two to one and a guy five six
to one just took on the entire field and we're
battling it out toward the end. But my guy fee
now he gets another victory. Is I don't know. It
feels like it's tenth and in a year and a
half after going winless forever, but uh, SOB I know
(12:59):
you you stay locked in. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What's up? Dude? First of all, I feel like I
don't even get any credit. I picked Fenw last week.
I get it like it was the hardest pick all year.
But I picked a guy as my favorite outright, I
bet on him.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
He won, and I feel like I don't know it
didn't really happen because I wasn't here on the pod
with you, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know, I appreciate you at least having me back
on this weekend. I assume we're just gonna talk NFL
Draft the whole time. I don't even know we're going golf.
I've done you've done any golf research.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I'm just watching the draft. You what you want to
break down the Jacksonville Jacks draft.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
I kind of do.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Actually, yeah, they actually, in fairness to them, got to
be licking their chops of we're going to own this
division for a long time because the other three teams
are kind of in shambles.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
It's funny, you know, going up to Jacksonville. I'll go
up there a few times a year, especially Players Championship
Week obviously, and then all times here, and they get
so much support Duval County. They love the Jags up there.
I think with Larrence with ETN that that team's gonna
be good for a while, and the energy around that
place is gonna be really big for a long time too.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
I'm pretty sure it's the players, but it might be
Hilton Head two. I feel like the PGA tourists tweeted
out pictures of Trevor Lawrence the last couple of years
coming to the event and kind of saying what's up.
It feels like he's a sneaky golf guy.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
He was at the players. I think it was the
players hanging out with John Rahm. I will tell you
that I was in a local watering hole around midnight
on Friday night of Players week with a couple of
colleagues and it's a packed bar, and all of a sudden,
Trevor Lawrence comes just walking in, just hanging out. I
don't even know if he was drinking or anything, just
kind of sitting on the side. People are like holding
(14:39):
up their phones taking pictures of them and stuff. I'm like,
it's Trevor Lawrence. Like, I'm not gonna go bother, I'm
not going to talk to him, but like just wild that.
Like you know, Barr and Jack speech at midnight on
a Friday and there's your local quarterback right there hanging out.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well. Speaking of golf, uh, you know, it feels like
the last couple of weeks took it deep breath and
now we really get rolling into multiple majors over the
next month, we have this really elevated event season kicks
back in again. I mean I count we got three
over the next forty plus days with the big purses.
(15:17):
You know, part of the reason I have you back
on because you pick my guy Victor Hobblin this week.
But before we get before we get into the Wells
Fargo and Quail Hollow, which you know you wrote about
pretty eloquently. You know this, this is a pretty cool venue,
obviously pretty historic. Some moments that have happened over the years.
I'm sure you noticed on the UH on Elon's app,
(15:37):
you know Phil, Phil was letting a rip yesterday, cold
nosed and taking on trapnel everywhere, fighting everybody, and listen, like,
obviously the official Golf World rankings, no one takes them
as seriously as we did years ago, just because as
we just saw in the majors, like I don't know
where Brooks ranked, but I know in a big tournament,
like I wouldn't just not pick that guy to be
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in the mix. But like we all knew when they
left this was going to happen. The GOOT situation last
week about how they change the rules on the fly,
and in fairness of Taylor Gooch's like, yeah, we all
understand you're a top twenty five, thirty thirty five player
in the world, but the rules are the rules. You
took the money you left. It feels like they're keep
screaming at the clouds and you've been around golf a
(16:22):
lot longer than me at this level. It sure feels
like the rules aren't changing anytime soon for these guys
to just fly into these tournaments, which like over the
next couple of years that most of them are kind
of going to get asked out of, right.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, So there's a few different components here. First of all,
the official World Golf ranking right now is obsolete. Look
this thing for those who don't know, and you know,
I don't understand quite frankly, why we have to rank everything.
You know, this isn't BuzzFeed. We don't have to rank
the best players every single week. They uses a qualification
process to get into major championships. We have other ways
(16:55):
of qualifying, and so really I think it's pretty obsolete
these days when you see dust Johnson at number seventy
five in the world. In fact, we were arguing this
for about six months last year. Then we had Davis
Love the Third on our radio show, Hitting the Green
on Serious XM, and we're talking about the world ranking
with him and he goes, whym me just get rid
of it. And it was like someone threw a brick
(17:16):
through my window and hit me in the head.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I was like, WHOA, I've been yelling about like they
gotta do this, and they gotta do that, and these
guys need points, but these guys shouldn't get points, and
we're all going back and forth, and all of a sudden,
he's like, wait, yeah, that's a good solution there. Let's
just not have it. Why do we need it?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
What I would love to see, John, is the major championships.
They probably all have to get together on this, and
they're not going to all be in concert on all
of this. But how about if AUGUSTA National JA of America, USGA,
RNA all went to Live and said, look, your qualified
players are already qualified. Phil won the PGA two years ago.
He's in for a few years anyway. I mean, he
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doesn't need to worry about hitting.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
DJ won the Masters. I mean they got some camp
Smith's good.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Like, those guys are fine. How about we give them,
let's say five other spots in each event and they
can have let's talk our way through it, Let's have
some meetings and some conversations, but let's have a qualifying
process within your schedule where five guys can qualify for
those major championships. Now, what I would really like to
(18:22):
see is, because this whole lift thing seems buddy bunny.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Now, Let's hey, we're all gonna fly on PGA together,
and we're all gonna hang out at parties together. We're
all wearing the same clothes, cool logo, and when we win,
we're all gonna spray champagne on each other. Well, all
of a sudden, when you and your teammates are battling
it out for the fifth and final qualification into the
US Open, you might not be spraying champagne on the
(18:46):
other guys so quickly. I think it would forge some
competitiveness out there, which don't think we necessarily see. I mean,
Taylor Gooch just a little while ago tweeted out, what
a great battle with a great person, man Sergio is
the best.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
That was so much fun. Let's do it again. It
seems like they're forging this camaraderie and this common bond
of like us against them, which is fine, but it's
still maintained that because of that, it's more entertainment than competition.
I think that if we start making them play against
each other to get into the majors, all of a sudden,
the competitive balance shifts a little bit, and these guys
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want to go beat each other's brains in as opposed
to well, rooting for each other. Hope you make Bartie,
Hey you too, hope you make eagle Man. Instead of
rooting for each other, Let's go try to beat each other.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
One thing. On Phil's Twitter tirade might be strong, but
he was just I mean, he was letting it fly.
He used the word collusion. Obviously, the Official Golf World
rankings got CBS more money when they have higher rated fields,
But wouldn't you say that moving forward, when they did
these elevated events. The best players are playing in the
biggest events, so the TV networks are now it's worth
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it for them. They're guaranteed to get the best players.
And however many it turns out to be, it feels like,
I don't know, eight elevated events a year separate from
the majors and separate from the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Look, a year and a half ago, Phil was right
about a whole lot of stuff. He went about it
the completely wrong way, but he wasn't wrong. He said, look,
there's money in reserves. How come it's not coming back
to us the players? And I honestly don't know what
the answer to that was, But Phil helped get more
money into the pockets than PGA tour players. That's undeniable.
(20:32):
This assertion that Phil is making that it was of
the official World Golf Ranking and the.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Points that two are getting more money from CBS and
the other rights soldiers.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Look, I don't know the ins and outs of this,
and there's a lot of you know, legal lees that
goes into the stuff. But don't think he's right about this.
Phil has been harping on this point for a long
time now. I don't think he's right about it.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
But again it goes back to my original point of Hey,
how about we just get rid of the damn and
we don't need it and we can move on because
it seems to be causing a lot more problems and
solutions right now.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
The Ryder Cup now has access. Is it just the
Americans or can the Europeans take as well if they want,
if they so choose that they live guys.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I believe they can. That's going to be fair, do.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You and do you expect reinterest makes more sense? You know,
Americans could easily fill out a team if they so choose,
without you know, dipping in the live pond. But it
sure feels like the Europeans, you know, especially Sergio, if
he's going to be playing well, would he be a
lock to be on that team or is there too
much I would say animosity, not from the players necessarily
(21:40):
because John Robb's been outspoken, but just the powers that be,
what's what's your expectation.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Luke Donald is the captain of the European team. Luke
Donald and Sergio Garcia have teamed together and a lot
of Ryder Cups over the years. Luke Donald very u
interestingly has said he doesn't necessarily want live players on
the team. They're not really welcome to part of it.
He's also said his brother, who caddies for Brendan Steel
on Live, would be a welcome addition and could certainly
(22:07):
help the team in the team room.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
And I'm like, it seems like you're speaking out of
both sides of your mouth. And I really like lu Donald.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I've become friendly with Loop Donald over the years, and
I think he is a really good, really smart person
when it comes to this stuff. But I feel like
a lot of the stems from no one really knows,
no one really knows what to say, they don't know
how to say it. They don't know what's exactly taking
place on a regular basis. Sorry, I'm getting a text
(22:34):
now that well, we'll get to it. We start talking
about the Wells farg a little inside news.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Okay, okay, okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
All right, I'm looking down. I feel like Adam Schefter here,
I'm on camera and I'm looking at my phone and
I got breaking news coming in. But look, as far
as that's concerned, that Johnson is very adamant about not
being in favor of live. He is very pro PGA tour.
(23:03):
If a Brooks Kepka goes and wins the US Open,
can he leave him off that team? He may qualify
just based on that. But if he finishes eighth in
the points and has a major championship victory, can you
leave him off the team. That's going to be a
really difficult decision. That's going to be very, very interesting
to watch. I think as we start moving towards Ryder
(23:25):
Cup later in the year, well.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It sure feels like regardless of whoever the captain is
of the President's Cup or the Ryder Cup, Eldrick Tiger
Woods plays a big pseudo role behind the scenes of
being a leader of the group, so you know, he's
pretty anti live, you know, and you speaking a Tiger,
you had an incredible tweet the other day when you
(23:48):
just quote or last week when it was announced that
he had the surgery. I mean, the first line of
his statement was, I mean it sounds like a surgery
someone that played for the Pittsburgh Steelers in the nineteen
seventies would get. I mean, it's just how can this
your expectations moving forward? I mean, do we see Tiger
at another major this year? Obviously the PGA feels like
that's done, but US Open, LACC, the British Open, I mean,
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is he a one tournament guy? But itsually moving forward?
It feels dire, all right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
So this segues very nicely into my phone blowing up
right now and getting some news here. Todd Lewis from
Golf Channel tweeted about a half an hour ago that Joebacava,
Tiger's Caddy's on the bag of Patrick Cantley this week.
Matt Minister has been Patrick's caddy for a few years now.
He's very good caddy in his own right. I'm getting
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text right now that sounds like this may not be
a one week deal. That this might be more of
a long term than a short term deal, that Joebacava
is going to caddy for Patrick Cantley, And if that
is indeed the case, I think we can read the
tea leaves pretty easily here and say that Tiger ain't
coming back anytime soon. For everything I've heard, Major championship
season is over for him this year. It's a done deal.
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The next time I think we'd see him would be
either the PNC Championship, if Charlie can get him out
there and get him healthy and you know, talk Dad
into playing there, or the Hero World Challenge which he
hosts the Bahamas. But he's only gonna do those if
he's healthy enough. If he's not healthy, he's not gonna
go out and try to play those. And so, for me,
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my big takeaway after the Masters, and this was even
before the surgery was announced, but certainly moves it in
this direction after the surgery as well, John, is that
I'm not saying Tiger's done.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I'm not saying he can't win again, but I think
the probability of Tiger never playing again is now greater
than the probability of Tiger winning again.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And so again, I want to go over that so
people understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying Tiger will
never win. I'm not saying Tiger is done. I'm just
saying that if you asked me, you know, is it
fifty to fifty between winning again and never playing?
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And said, now, it's probably closer to sixty forty, maybe
seventy thirty, and that, you know, for the first time,
really I came.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
To this conclusion after the Masters. That don't mean he
can't win, just there's a greater probability that we never
see him playing golf again on a competitive basis.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You know a little bit. It feels like, I mean
different just because the status of Tiger Woods. But I
remember when I said, well, did Web Simpson's caddy just
take off on him for the young hotshot guy that's
gonna make more money? And he said no, I think
it was much more Web telling him time to go.
That's clearly what this would be if Tiger and him,
you know, because Joe's been obviously he wasn't just gonna
leave Tiger without his blessing. But these last couple of
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years have been pretty you know, tough. You know, he
doesn't work you know, and I'm sure Tiger, you know,
for a notorious cheap guy, probably still takes care of him.
But this Patrick can't lay. He might be a slow
player and hard to watch, he is an ATM machine
and one of the best young players on tour.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
I mean that's it probably takes a bag like that
for a guy like Joel the confident for whatever reason,
Like no one ever comes up to you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
John, you know, he meets someone somewhere, they go, hey,
how much you make this year? He talks about that
for whatever reason. If you're a caddy on the PGA.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Tour, people think it's fair game to be like, so,
where's your income coming from? How much you make it,
what kind of percentage you get from those FedEx Cup profits? Like,
like he talks about their salary in those terms. People
think just because you're a caddy, then we get to
talk about your money. From everything I know and everything
I've heard, Joelakov is doing just fine. That Joe doesn't
necessarily need to be out there on a weekly basis.
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That said, it would probably take a bag like Patrick Cantley.
We saw this from Bones Mackay a couple of years ago,
where he'd caddied for Phil Mickelson for twenty five years,
went to work for NBC. He wasn't hurting by any means.
It was gonna take a big bag. It was gonna
take a big time player to get him back caddying,
and Justin Thomas was that guy, and they won a
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Major together last year, of course, and I'm gonna do
other big things that I believe very very soon. For Joelkava,
my guess is that there might have been five players
in the world who can call him up and say, hey,
you want to come back. And again, I'm not saying
this is a done deal. I'm just getting sort of
little rumors that are being texted to me. But if
indeed this is more than just a one week thing,
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it probably took one of those guys, and it probably
has Tiger's blessing too. My guess is that I don't
see Joe being the kind of person who just goes,
screw you, Tiger, you're not playing. I'm gonna go caddy
for someone else. Steve Williams did that years ago.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Remember Steve Williams, when Tiger was hurt, said all right,
I'm gonna go caddy for Adam Scott for a little bit,
and Tiger's like, okay, well make it longer than a
little bit, because you ain't coming back to me.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
And so that's happened before. I can't imagine that's what
this case is, but we see this a lot lately.
Your guy Davis Riley was able to pull James Edmondson,
who had caddied for Ryan Palmer for twenty years, Tomer
on the tail end of his career, Riley just starting out.
He's gonna be a money maker for a long time.
Omer and Edmonson are our best buddies. Palmer said to him, like, look,
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you got to do if you're gonna go make more
money with this kid, don't make more money for your family.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I think here's where you would know it was serious, right, Like, obviously,
if this is just a one off, maybe, but if
he starts doing this more consistently, you would not have
a guy that leaves you in the majors right when
Tiger plays moving forward, So that would that might be
the telltale sign that it might be all she wrote
for Elder And honestly, at the Masters, Tiger kind of
talked about like, I this could be it, not just
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because I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Right. At some point, we have to listen to Time.
I mean we Tiger keeps telling us like, hey, father,
Time's undefeated. I'm not gonna be out here forever. If
I can't go out and feel like I can win
a golf tournament, I'm not just showing up to be
a ceremonial golfer. And I think most of us have
looked at me, like, yeah, okay, what we're gonna You're
gonna be out here when you're sixty eight and still
have a chance to winning this. It's not true. And
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I think the end is a lot closer than people realize.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
And I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Because he's come back so many times, because after four
back surgeries he went out and won the twenty nineteen Masters,
that we all just assume, Okay, he's out for the
year and he'll have another surgery and watch out next
year's Masters. He's going to win that thing. At some point,
all good things come to an end. And I hope
I'm wrong about this, and I hope it's it's not
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the end for Tiger. But if you listen to him,
he has not minced words about this whatsoever over the
last couple of years that. Look, I ain't gonna be
out here forever. I'm not going to keep playing petitive golf,
you know, five times a year if I feel like
I can't win and I feel like I'm not healthy
enough to do it, and so I again, it just
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wouldn't surprise me if if it's it, if you just
can't go anymore and can't do it anymore and doesn't
feel like he can go out and contend, there's really
I think about it. What's the point for Tiger? What
would be the point for him?
Speaker 2 (30:50):
It doesn't need the money. I mean, it's just his health.
I mean, he can't. It's not worth not being able
to walk.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I mean, so maybe he plays the Masters every year,
and he comes back and he grinds to make the cut,
and then he withdraws on Saturday morning because he's too
injured to go out and play two more rounds. At
some point you go that you s ain't worth the squeeze.
I'm not doing this anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, before we get into some of the wells Fargo picks,
I would say, big picture on cam'ta if this eventually becomes,
you know, a permanent thing. I never pick him for majors,
partly because I don't really like him. I'm not to
say he's a bad guy, but I just don't like
this pace of play. Watch him play it, you would
say it would feel pretty inevitable in the next two
or three years that they might get over the hump
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in one of the Big four tournaments, because he's right
there right now. It's like, well, you see it with
Cam Young, You've seen it with some of these other guys, you, Scotti, Scheffler.
Once you get one of those top guys and they're
already right there, it's like, oh shit, the floodgates might open,
which is my worst nightmare. I can't watch a guy
over the next five years win a couple of majors.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
He's almost going to accidentally win a major at some point.
He's just too good. He's really, really talented. I don't
know that. It's like I said, Matt Minister is a
very good caddy, and he's been with him and he
knows Patrick really well. This is not a matter of like, well,
he had some guy who couldn't do.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yordages and didn't know how to club him, and now
Joe Lolikova is gonna.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Come in this week, and he's gonna be great. I mean,
I said the same thing years ago. John Robb was
working with Adam Hayes, and all of a sudden, Bones mcpie.
This is when Bones and Phil stopped working together, and everyone' said, oh,
Bones's gonna go work with Rob. Rob needs a great caddy.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And I was like, oh, Adam Hayes a pretty damn
good caddy, and that has worked out for him.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And so it's not always just hey, change your cat.
You go to a big name caddy and you start
winning golf tournaments. But Patrick can't Ley's good enough that
at some point he was gonna win with his old caddy.
If indeed this is a new caddy for him and
it's a long term thing, he's going to win with
him too. I tend to agree with you that I
look at him at the majors and he's a nice
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top five, nice top ten ticket for me. I don't
know that I'm gonna be playing. Can't lay outright for
any major's coming up very soon, because he just looks
a little looks a little nervous, anxious, gets a little slow.
There's a lot of things going on.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's very analytical, kind of guy, analytical kind of player,
and you can kind of see the wheels turning as
he's trying to maneuver his way around the golf course in.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
The back nine of a major championship Sunday. But that said,
he's good enough that at some point he's going to win.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
He just is totally agree speaking of this week, Wells Fargo,
you picking my guy Hovelin though I checked it at
his odds are going up and up, Like his odds
are really high right now. Another guy that you like
a lot though, And speaking of caddy movement, Ricky lost
his caddy to Tom Kim and then Ricky's come storming
back and looks like he's going to resurrect his career
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and be a really good player again. I kind of
like him closer thirty five forty to one odds this year.
But do you think just Aaron Rodgers, you know, he
just needed a change, Ricky? Was it just time for
a caddy change? And like, was he gonna resurrect his
career regardless whether he the guy stayed or left or
was it just you know, it's just part of the
evolution of this sport.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
This is a really tough one for me. I know
Ricky really well. I've got to know Joe Scovering really well,
who caddied for him since his first career event on
the PGA Tour. So they worked really really well together
for a long time. I remember seeing them after a
miss cut at the Travelers last year. It was Friday,
early afternoon. They played in the morning, and after they
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missed the cut. I mean, the two of them weren't
really talking a lot of times. You missed the cut,
You're kind of going over all the shots with your caddy.
What could we have done better? What can we take
from this? And it was just dead silence between them.
It was very awkward. I just kind of walked away
after a second. They kind of put their bag down
near me, and I was kind of standing there and
I was kind of stuck in the moment, and all
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of a sudden, you know, I just became the air
around them was a little tense. And so I'd like
to think that they're both good enough guys. They're both
good enough at their jobs, and at some point it
was gonna come around for him no matter what. But
maybe a little different scenery for each of those guys
has helped. Obviously, Joe's already caddied Tom Kim to a
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victory out there, and Ricky's playing better golf right now.
And I see this as like the perfect storm for
Ricky Fowler. He's won this golf tournament before. He's got
four top tens and nine career starts at Quill, which
doesn't even include a top ten at twenty seventeen EGA Championship.
He's playing really well. All the numbers are good.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Everything you look for, ball striking wise has been really good.
I think it's a really good week.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I like everything about Ricky except for that thirty five
to one number. It's just too short for me. I'll
play it, but I still would have liked forty five
or fifty to one. I thought that's what we're getting
coming into the week. Maybe if Scheffler and Rom were
in the field, everyone kind of backs up a little
bit and maybe we would have got that forty five
to one. Thirty five is short, but I'm on him.
I'm still gonna have it. I think he can win.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
He is golf course driving accuracy as much as it
is a second shot golf.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Of course, it's really tee to green.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
It's just give me your guys who can hit it
long and straight. Give me your guys who could hit.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Mid and long irons really well, it's just a slog
of a golf course. I heard it was very windy
out there yesterday. I'm not sure if that wind is
going to hold throughout the week. But you know, we
had Carl Paulson playing in the program yesterday. On our
radio show, CP said he went to go fix a
ball mark with the tee on the fourteenth green and
the tea broke. That's how firm these greens are right now.
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So it just takes a really good ball striker. It's
one of the reasons why I love Victor Howland tee
to green. He's been fantastic so far this year. I
see a lot of comparisons to Tony Fenow, who if
you were only paying attention to the leader boards going
into last.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Week, you have said, eh, really uninspired year for Tony Fenow.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
But we have all these strokes game stats.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
What they told us was that going into last week,
Tony Fenaw was the fourth best player on the PGA
Tour this season, behind all only Scheffler.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Can't lay in wrong and so that's pretty damn good
at some point he was two. For some of that,
they call it positive regression in the industry, which is
like oxymoronic, does make really any sense, except that it
sort of does make sense, which is, he's going to
start playing better based on the numbers the results are coming.
It's like a pitcher being five and twelve with a
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two seventy two era. You're like, he's actually pitching. Well,
you got a bad record. At some point they're gonna
put up runs for him, and he's gonna start getting
wins as well. I see both Holin and Fowler fitting
that same profile, which is the performance has sort of
outclassed the results for the most part this year. Not
that the results have been bad, but the results could
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be even better based on how they're performing. And I
think it happens this week the Gala.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
I mean at this point, and I said this on
my podcast yesterday, but uh, for Thigala, and I throw
Keith Mitchell in there as well.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I could mention him every week, but at some point
going to send me a seasoned assist letter. They're just training.
Order is coming. I like both these guys every single week,
and if I mentioned him every week, it's like I'm
just crying wolf at some point, So I'll reserve judgment
for the weeks when I really like him. Gall's gonna
win the Memorial tournament in about a month at Jack's Place,
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so you know, I'll wait to talk him up there.
But yeah, I like him every week because he's really good.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well, when I heard you describe the conditions of the course,
it sounded like guys from across the pond. I see
two guys creeping up toward fifty to one, and Lowry
and Fleetwood just guys that are comfortable, maybe not to win,
but just top five's, top tens that are comfortable in
that environment if it gets hard.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I like Fleetwood a little bit more than Lowry Fleetwood's.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Fleetwood's played well this year, especially the last couple.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Of months, and he's played well here. Here's what I
look at, guys who have not just played well at
a specific golf course in the past, but how are
they playing when they played well this golf course. So
Tammy Fleetwood has posted some niceries alts at Quail, but
he's posted nice results, not when well. He was coming in.
He had three top tens in his previous three starts,
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and so yeah, he's just playing well, and so he
did it again that week. Tommy Fleetwood has posted good
results of this golf course where he wasn't playing well
coming in, wasn't playing well going out. To me, that's
a sign that the guy is a good course fit
and should play well at that place. I like Fleetwood
more than Lowry when we come to that.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
But again, if you're looking for a guy from across
the pond who's gonna just ball strike his way to
the leaderboard this week, it's Hoveland, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Get you out of here on this. I don't know
if you guys have talked about this on the radio
show or the podcast, but about the Ryder Cup team,
and obviously, you know we mentioned with Brooks and DJ.
If we just assume maybe those guys won't be involved.
DJ clearly I don't even know if cares anymore. Brooks
could win his way where it's gonna be hard to
keep him off. But let's say he doesn't win. One
of the majors are the Galla and Ricky, two guys
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that are trending to just have a chance to be
a captain's pick.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
You know. So I'm gonna do a little work here
because I hate this. This is like when we go
over the NBA All Star team and we sit there
and go, WHW can so and so be left off?
And then you go, well, who are you gonna take
off that team? You start looking Wow, I'm not sure
we take off. So I'm just gonna go straight down
the world ranking. I started this conversation by saying the
world ranking is obsolete, and now I'm gonna go down the
world ranking and look at the Americans. We've got, all right,
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Scheffler can't Ley Xander Homa Salataurus is out, so he's
got He's still ninth in the world. For some reason,
he's out. Gordon Final, So that's six right there.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
You'd think Ca cam Young, Cam Young is gonna be
on there.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
You think Sam Burns is there, Morikwa probably JT cam Young.
So that's ten right there. So to me, we've got
ten spots that look, unless there's an injury, unless a
guy really starts slumping, those ten should be on the team.
From there, it's you.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, really quick, really quick, justin Thomas on scholarship for
this year.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, JT's on. JT's the Heart and Soul team.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Okay, I'm I'm not saying he shouldn't be on. I'm
just saying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
I think it's gonna be a good week for JT.
I think that the JT fades are a little overblown
right now. He hasn't played great, but it's not like
this is some lingering thing. I think he needs to
take a little the internal pressure off himself. He'll start
playing better and.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Get any case after those ten, whether it's a live
guy like a DJ or Koepka or Taylor Gooch, We've
got Kiddy Yama, Keegan Bradley, Sahith, Billy Horsel, Tom Hogy,
Russell Henley, Brian harm and Chris Carr. So in any case, yes,
those two other spots are very ripe for the taking.
And if you told me right now you think it's
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gonna be Thigala and Fowler, I have no problems with
that whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Like it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Okay, Let's enjoy the Wells Fargo and then the PJA
Championships right around the corner. And I'm pretty excited about
on that one. I already got my eye on several guys.
I actually have some intriguing, tasty odds.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Okay, Okay, I can't wait to hear you got email
a little taste of that before we go.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, I mean, well, one guy in his odds aren't
super great, but I think Cam Young as long as
he's somewhere twenty five thirty to one. Just you know,
obviously you're gonna have to bet probably Scheffler or rom
And to feel pretty, you're gonna have to have some
exposure on one of those two guys.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
But you're gonna have to and listen.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
As long as I can get Jason Day forty five
fifty to one range, I'm gonna keep dabbling. I'm gonna
keep dabbling.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, it should be a good place for Day Gary
Gary Woodland one hundred to one.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I'm not there on Woodland yet. Cam Yon is a
long shot, and one guy right around Cam Young's number
the guy that I have earmarked for that event right now,
and again we're two weeks away. We'll see what happens.
Watch out for Sunjay in I don't think anyone quite
realizes just how good Sunjay is. He's about ready to
win a big one as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
No, he's a name that people hammer in the betting markets,
and it feels like he's gonna bust through Yep, big right,
He's gonna be a major champion in his career. That
feels inevitable. Okay, so we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Thanks buddy.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Get in the mailbag. At golo pod, we answered a
bunch last week, so we are running a little low
and I will fire through your questions right now at
golo pod is the old Instagram Our first question from
Mike question for the pod. I'm transitioning from military to
the business world. How important is golfing? Learning to golf
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as far as creating relationships and getting deals done? Also,
any suggestions to someone completely new to golfing as far
as how to learn and not pick up bad habits, videos, books, programmers, programs,
beginning clubs. Well. Overall, I think YouTube can solve a
lot of problems. So any question you have regarding golf
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clubs your own swing, type in that little question to
the second biggest circuit chartch engine in the world, YouTube,
and that can help with golf. In terms of business
and golf, I think the one thing it has going
for it is it incorporates a lot of things. When
you're outside the sun shining on you, and two you're
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just doing something. Even though it's really hard, kind of fun.
So it just lightens people up.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
If you go to a business meeting, even if it's
not formal at someone's office, you meet someone for coffee,
you meet someone for cocktails, you know, it can be hard,
it can be awkward, right, It can be difficult depending
on someone else's personality, I would say, and most people
would agree. If the other person just has somewhat interest
in golf, they like playing it, they enjoy just doing
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something to instead of just sitting around. It just lightens
it loosens people up. So when people say that a
lot of deals get done on the golf course, I
think a lot of it is just people relax a
little bit, you know, and then what naturally happens on
the golf course, probably order a couple of beers. So
it's a double whammy. You get a little liquid courage
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in you if you're trying to do a deal, you
loosen them up a little bit, and everyone's just kind
of having a good time. And it's an organic way
to bullshit.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Sometimes in an office setting, over a coffee, in a
meeting room, it can just be a little weird. Over
a zoom, it can just be a little awkward, I'd
argue in a golf cart, especially that's where you spend,
it kind of forces you to not be awkward and
just put your guard down and relax. So I would
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say it definitely has benefits. Now obviously depends on your industry,
but for most industries, a lot of people play golf
for a reason. The Mexico Open was fantastic and just
glossed over it. Love seeing Feen now win. My question
is do you think Rom is the leader of the PGA?
Roy just disappeared? Since Rom's Masters and he played in
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multiple elevated events and now a non elevated event. The
dude doesn't quit except this week he's taking it off.
Just wish he showed some more personality because he's the
next PGA elite stud. Well. I think overall Rom is
currently better than Rory McIlroy. So just in terms of
one guy is better than the other, Rom is a
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better player than Rory, even though most times when they
play together their odds are relatively the same. I think
we all have to agree that if it's the Masters,
if it's an elevated event, if it's anything so far
this year, you feel better about betting on John Roum.
He's more invested, he's less like I saw some quotes
today that Rory had with some different reporters, like he
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was exhausted, he needed a mental break. John Ram sure
doesn't feel exhausted now. John's younger. He didn't completely speak
for the PGA Tour, but he played a pretty big
role last year. It was like, well, Rory's the pseudo
commissioner and he kind of was Bull was Rom like
the CFO to the commissioner. Rom was always talking. They
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offered Roum four hundred dollars. He's told him to kick Rocks.
He was very very open about his take on liv
golf and his desire to stay on the PGA Tour.
So I'm with you leader. You know, Rory's just kind
of the verbal leader for sure. I think Rom is
kind of the player right now. You know, he's I
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don't know where he will finish, you know, big picture,
but you know, the most accomplished non filler tiger on
the PGA Tour, and I guess Brooks as well are
Jordan and Rory because of the majors, because of the wins,
Rom's coming for him, Rom's coming for him if I
would expect Rom. I think it's very plausible for him
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to win another major this season, like this season could end.
Rom might make forty million dollars this season, win multiple majors,
and then all of a sudden, there's three and we
go got is Rom. If I was a betting man,
Rom's gonna finish closer to seven than two. So I
don't think he's done. And if I was a betting man,
Rory might have one more in am. I'm not as
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confident on Rory though. Sometimes he can play with you
because you think he's not playing well, then all of
a sudden he'll win. Quick follow up on Gooch USGA.
If the USGA justifies excluding Gooch because the PGA deemed
him to be no longer eligible and the USGA wants
to respect that decision of another tour, why would Goots
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then be eligible to qualify for the US Open under
another criteria. In other words, Gooch can still get in
if the world ranking remains in the top sixty after
the PGA Championship. But why would the USGA allow someone
suspended by the PGA tour in period if their justification
was they simply are honoring the protocol of the PGA.
(48:44):
What if a player wasn't eligible under PGA Tour for
violation of the pd rule. This is getting really deep.
I think the PGA Tour once he was deemed ineligible
for the Tour Championship, which if you qualify for the
Tour Chachampionship the top thirty, like Thigala, you get into
all the majors. So Gooch qualified for that last year,
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but because he left to live, he was actually ineligible
to play in the thing.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Right.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Remember he was like down the street in his car
when the ruling went the other way. Now we all
have to agree, Taylor Gooch is a top thirty player
in the world. Taylor Gooch should be playing in all
the majors, but right now he doesn't fit the criteria.
Now he can just qualify for the US Open, right
There are qualifiers all over America. It's why it's called
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the United States Open. Friend of mine, neighbor of mine
growing up, Tyler Raber did that, qualified his way into
a US Open. So if he can do it, Taylor Gooch,
sure as hell can. Now I've heard a lot of like, well,
if Taylor Gooch is this good, shouldn't he be able to.
It's not that easy, you know. I Mean, you get
(49:56):
a couple of wayward drives when you're playing like you're
not going to. But I I do understand where Phil's
coming from. Like, it's not about Phil. Phil's in these
majors because he won at Kiawa. He's got a lifetime
exemption to the Masters, He's eligible for the British Open
until he's sixty, obviously, the PGA Championship he's playing in
(50:18):
for the foreseeable future, and the US Open. But like Taylor,
Goot should be in the majors. But like this was
the controversial element of Live. Once you guys left, you
guys were gonna lose some of your status. Now you
can bitch and moan after the fact, but the rules
are the rules. Like some things in life, we can
(50:38):
push the envelope. And I'm a big believer in that.
I've been pushing the envelope in things my entire life.
I'm sure many people listening have as well. But sometimes
when you do that and you just go, we'll figure out,
we'll pick up the pieces after we break through this wall,
whatever it may be, professionally right, sometimes you look back
and you're like well now it's time to well, no,
it's actually not gonna work. That's not gonna happen. And
(51:02):
I think some of those guys are staring at that reality.
And Taylor Gooch obviously is the most unique because he
was this young up and comer who was trending to
be a top twenty player and he left and someone
texts me today. You know, in Australia they have like
a forty five percent tax rate. So when Gooch won
(51:24):
the four million dollars, it was actually a little more.
Because his team won in Australia for let's say five
million bucks, he ended up getting taxed at a super
high rate in Australia, and then based off whatever he
has left, he gets tax off that when he gets
back to America. So he actually only took home like
one point four million dollars, which is still a ton
(51:45):
of money. But when you factor in, like he just
made four point seventy five million dollars, to only look
at your bank account and see whatever it was like
one three five or one four five gotta piss him
off a little bit. But I don't think these guys
are geting screwed right now. Now, me and Sobel talked
about it. They're gonna figure something out. But sometimes when
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you make your bed, you gotta lay in it. And
they got highly paid and compensated to make this jump.
Taylor Gooch knew what he was getting into that it
might not work out. Now, he's probably optimistic. He was
probably hopeful, but sometimes you know, you hope a little
too long, reality doesn't turn in your favor. And that's
(52:29):
right now. Sucks for him, But you know, I would
imagine he wouldn't have made Who knows, maybe he would
have won on the PGA Tour this year. He's a
really good player. He's a really really good player, but
I don't feel that much sympathy for him right now. Now.
Eventually they're gonna have to change this, but like most
things in life, things don't happen immediately. Things take some time.
(52:52):
Right like, eventually in a year, maybe we'll have the
way for the live guys who aren't you know, on
these that don't have unlimited status because they've won a major,
or their world ranking is still really high or whatever.
Maybe they have a way to qualify in but right
now they don't, Like I don't expect the the golf
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world just to immediately change for them. He'd be like, well,
just it's only been whatever, eight months. It hasn't been
that long. So I think we do need to pump
the brakes a little bit about all the complaining from Phil.
It's like, holy fuck, Phil, You've made so much money.
How do you complain so much? Yeah? I like you,
but geez, Louise, you just always pointing the finger at
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someone else. Just how about you just enjoy yourself and
the money that you just got from Saudi Arabia, which
is a lot. Audios, have a good week. We will
have a football podcast come out on Friday. Turns out
Jordan Love got an extension, not the fifth year option.
I will have some thoughts on that come Friday as well.
(53:56):
As I just saw Aaron Rodgers tell McAfee that Garrett
Wilson is pretty pretty good. Later
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