November 17, 2025 • 49 mins
Former NFL scout John Middlekauff is reacting LIVE immediately following the Week 11 Sunday Night Football matchup between Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions vs. Jalen Hurts and the Philadelphia Eagles. John kicks off by reacting to Jared Goff and head coach Dan Campbell's performance in a Lions loss to the Eagles on SNF. John then debates whether the Eagles are now a defensive team.
Next, John reacts to Seattle Seahawks QB Sam Darnold's performance in a loss vs. Matt Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams. Following that, John explains why the Denver Broncos are destined for the 1 seed in the AFC after their win vs. Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. John then reacts to the big time NFC North matchup between the Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears & J.J. McCarthy and the Minnesota Vikings and how debates the differences between Bears head coach Ben Johnson and Vikings head coach Kevin O'Connell.
John then plays couch scout and discusses top CFB prospects Notre Dame RB Jerimyah Love and Alabama QB Ty Simpson. John wraps up with his Hard Rock Bet Monday Night Football picks: Cowboys at Raiders (+3)
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The volume. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three
Now podcast. Hopefully everyone is doing well, doing great, doing
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better than golf and the Lions and Dan Campbell who
get beat in Philadelphia and go forward about fifty times
on fourth down, don't get any of them. We will
dive into that game. A lot happened today. We will
dive into the ram Seattle, Denver against Patrick Mahomes, my
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guy Kevin O'Connell, who just refuses to make it easy
on JJ Mccarthurugh's obviously not good. Some scouting from the
couch because I watched a lot of college football on Saturday,
so a couple of takes. We will dive into that
as well, and yeah, that'll be the plan. So I
went on with Colin after the afternoon games. We're firing
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I was thinking about this. I actually was thinking about
this yesterday. I was like, I need some like just
consistent advice to give people and something that just could
be universal. And I was like, you know, one thing
that really benefited me and it was kind of luck, right,
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it happened to be like a guy my dad worked for,
my buddy's grandpa and my buddy's dad, like people that
really really influenced me as a kid. I just think
had big balls, and those were people I've always admired
in life. And you know, I've worked for people that
just kind of had some nuts on them and we're
not scared. And I think the more you surround yourself
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with people like that in life, the more prepared you
are for the real world. And I've been I've been
very fortunate and very lucky, and I always gravitate towards
those type people. And Dan Campbell obviously falls under that category.
But I also think there is a line of like
having stones and being reckless, and I think there is
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a fine line, and sometimes people jump over that line
and get themselves in trouble. I've been guilty of that.
I'm sure you have as well, whether it's personally, whether
it's financially, whether it's in a job situation, and I
think you watch Dan Campbell tonight and I don't think
there's any way around it, like he was reckless. Going
forward on fourth down is something that is supported in
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football now and most of us are behind. I've always
said most people on their couch in the nineties, in
the two thousands, back when football was much more conservative
in terms of like kicking field goals or punting, we're
screaming at the television, go for it. So in this
new world of analytics where the numbers are on the
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side of you know, telling the offensive coordinators or head
coaches to lean be aggressive that like the fans are
on board. But there's also a line of like this
is a defensive game and sometimes field position in a
game that is six to six or thirteen to six,
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you don't need to always go forward on fourth down, right,
You don't always need to go for two, right in
a game that kicking the extra points are ultimately going
to be the difference at the end. And I think
you watched the night and you went, Dan, this is
not twenty twenty four when you were playing the Green
Bay Packers and the video of you on Wednesday, because
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I think Hard Knocks in season was documenting you went
really viral and you basically put it all on the
offense because you had a bunch of defensive injuries and
you said, it's all on us, We're gonna go for
it every time, and everyone understood you had to. You
were playing me the dude down the street and your
mother at linebacker, and dB totally understand. Tonight you're playing
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the Philadelphia Eagles, whose offense is atrocious. I think if
you gave AJ Brown the opportunity and you said, AJ
we'll still pay you, you don't have to play for
this team, he'd be like, well, can I play for
another team? You can't, but you just don't have to
play for this team anymore. I think he'd be like, cool,
I'm done for the year. I'm over this. No one
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feels less interested than AJ Brown and what they got
going on. The Eagles offense is atrocious to watch. It
is awful. They have no passing game. The game because
of offensive line injuries sucks. I mean Saquan struggling to
average three yards to carry because there's nowhere for him
to go. All the metrics, you know, are are proving
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that he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage, he's
got nowhere to go. That their offense is awful to watch.
But that's who you're playing. You're not playing Bret Fahr,
if you're not playing Aaron Rodgers, you're not playing the
Eagles of last year. You're playing this Eagles team that
was had no chance to get to twenty points. So
sometimes punting the ball or wait for it, kicking field
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goals when your field goal kicker looks pretty good to
me makes some sense. And he had a stretch in
the third quarter where he went for it three times
on fourth down. None of them did he accomplished his
goal when he said go for it, guys, and then
twice he essentially forced three and outs for the Eagles
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and got the ball right back. Here's the other thing,
and I've said this all the time, like on the conversation,
when it comes to going for two or situations late
in game, I do think you have to factor in
always who you're playing and how your offense is doing.
And tonight, Jared Goff, and I've said this forever. I'm
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born and raised in California. I'm forty, just turned forty
one a month ago. Of those forty one years of
my life, I think if I did the math, thirty
four thirty five of them were spent either in San Luis, Obispo, Fresno,
or Davis, California. Slashed the Bay Area. The overwhelming majority
of my life was on the in California, on the
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West coast, and now I live in Scotts Steel. We
do not do well in cold weather. I lived in
Philadelphia for a couple of years. I hated it. I
couldn't stand it. You know why the way my body
and the uh, the temperature of my blood does not
deal with it. Why I'm not accustomed to it. When
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I grew up, if I wanted to go to cold weather,
we got in a car and we drove two and
a half hours to Lake Tahoe, and when we were
over it, we left. So when I see Jared Goff
wearing two gloves in that environment. I lived in Philly
for two years, I've been to some games that were really,
really cold. One time, I think my first year working
for the Eagles, we played the Minnesota Vikings with Brett Farbe.
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Actually I think he had gotten injured, so their backup
quarterback I got I forget his name. He's like a
former wide receivers like this hybrid player wasn't very good,
even though he beat us. The Sunday night game got
delayed by two nights. It was played on Tuesday because
of like a sleet hurricane. Everything was frozen and tonight
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wasn't that it was windy, it was cold. Jared Goff
had to wear two gloves. I'm like, this is not
gonna work. He looked extremely uncomfortable. Now. Part of that,
and we'll get into it, is Vic fai Jioe in
the defense, which looks dominant right now. But you could
tell early that Jared Goff wanted no part of this
cold because guess what, most people from warm weather don't
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like the cold. You'd be like, well, John, he lives
in Detroit. They play in a dome. They don't play
in the in inclement weather. No different than Minnesota. It's freezing,
but they don't do that. That's not how they play
right now. If you play at Kansas City or in
Baltimore and Pittsburgh, you don't have a choice. You have
to play outside. But given where they play like, he's
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in a controlled environment, so his entire career is cal
which you know can be overcast and a little misty,
but it sure is LA thirty degrees. And then he
went to LA and now he's playing in a dome,
so when you put him outdoors, it doesn't look the same.
And I'm a Jared Goff fan, but I've always said,
like I understand the California guys, especially the West Coast players.
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When you put him in weather, it can get ugly,
and it can get ugly really fast. So the head
coach has to know this. So this notion of like
sh Peyton taught me to be ballsy and be not
be conservative like Bill Parcells all for it, totally on board,
but you could tell early like this ain't a good idea. Dan,
just kick a couple of field goals because you never know,
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Jalen could throw it to you, Jalen could fumble, something
weird could happen. But instead of being down thirteen six,
what if you're down thirteen to twelve or sixteen to
twelve and just put yourself and give yourself some momentum.
But every time you go forward on fourth down, and
tonight it didn't even feel remotely close. And one thing
you're clearly missing, which is no one's fault. He's just injured.
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Is Sam Laporta, who would obviously be pretty valuable on
some of these fourth and fours or fourth and fives.
But then as the game went on, you start punning
in the fourth quarter. It's like, why are you punting now?
What the fuck is going on? And the answer is
I you know, I think he just naturally goes for
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it and then he realizes his quarterback, like we all realize,
is not on and playing the worst game what feels like,
of the last several years, and then he changes course
in the fourth quarter. You can't do that. You cannot
do that. I thought Dan Campbell was atrocious tonight, really,
And I am a Dan Campbell fan, I have, I have.
I revere the guy for what he has done in
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that franchise which was a laughingstock, which was a joke,
and turn them into a winning place. But tonight, like
it just wasn't good. It wasn't because of the decisions.
I'm not I'm not like nitpicking the place right one
play on fourth down to Saint Brown who wasn't open,
one play up the gut to Gibbs, like I'm not
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gonna false you forgiving the ball to Gibbs. It's so
easy to play Monday morning quarterback on an individual play call.
I'm more, I more have an issue with the ultimate
decision of like just take the points here, Just take
a deep breath and take the points. Give your quarterback
like that's a positive drive that was successful, instead of
just like handing the ball back to Philadelphia, especially when
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your defense is gonna force three plays and get the
ball right back. It made no sense. He approached tonight,
and I said this earlier, like they were playing the
Philadelphia Eagles team that they were playing no different than
they were playing the Green Bay Packers last year, when
he told the team that we're going to go for
it every time, Which why would you have that mindset
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and that game plan against a team whose offense just
the previous week score ten points. Their offense is broken,
it's not working. You can use that to your advantage,
keep it low scoring and give yourself a chance in
the fourth quarter. And tonight, technically he did, I mean
the referees at the end of the game calling that
penalty on the Lions corner. The Temple Kid against aj
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Brown is an embarrassment, but like the officials oftentime are
a joke. My only issue, and I'm someone that had
the Lions. It's hard for me, like, obviously that was
a bad call at the end of the game, like
that shouldn't happen. But I almost feel like I did
with Seattle, like you have no business winning this game.
You don't deserve to win this game. You honestly deserve
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to loose. And I listen, I'll give Dan Campbell the
benefit of doubt as an overall play caller a tough environment.
His quarterback is just crumbling like a cookie. He's playing
arguably the best defensive coordinator whose defense looks fantastic. It's
gonna be a tough spot. But the decisions on fourth down,
I don't care what nerds over the next twenty four
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hours be like that's the right decision. No, not to
night under no circumstances is the right decision. It's the
wrong decision, and it just it had a huge, huge
impact on the Lions tonight. And if they're gonna be
in situations which Chicago Bears, who are currently in first place,
congrats to Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, who again are
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in first place in the middle of November. Remember last year,
we're about a week away from when Eberflus blew the
end of the game on Thanksgiving. So the Bears have
come a long way in a short period of time.
Now do I think they're ultimately going to win the division?
I'd be a little surprised, But at this point in time,
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who knows. But I do know this that the Lions
feel much more likely to be playing in a wild
card game on the road in Philadelphia, in Seattle, in
Tampa now, depending on it could be the rams that
the weather might or might not be a factor. Who
knows at Philadelphia that he's gonna have to rethink some
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of this with his quarterback. Even if the Porto's back
guy's got two gloves, he just looks cold. You know,
when you see an individually like some people. You ever
watch Big Dom with the Eagles, regardless of the weather,
he won't have long sleeves on, completely unfazed. Like whether
it's twenty degrees or seventy degrees, Big Dom looks the same.
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Yet you look at Jared Goff, that thing gets below
about fifty five. You're like, God, I just don't like
what do I need to put on a sweatshirt. He's
making me feel cold. So rough. Rough night for Dan Campbell,
even though his defense was playing pretty well, and props
to Kelvin Sheppard, he's done an excellent job on defense.
And speaking of defense, it doesn't feel like we're that
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far removed from going God. I don't think the Eagles
defense is very good like we've known like this year.
The Eagles offense has had issues. AJ Brown isn't even
hiding it. He despises everything about the offense, the play calling.
Don't think he likes the quarterback. He's just over it.
And he will be traded in about three and a
half months. But right now he's on the team and
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clearly Saquan who is the opposite, like total team guy,
there's just nowhere for him to go. I mean, he
struggled to average three yards of carry tonight. Their interior
offensive line is not good. I mean, I mean they
got stuck tonight on a tush push, not like it
was his next onek Like they got pushed the other
way because their guard center guard is just not even
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remotely close to what it was last year. Part of
that's injuries and the uh losing becked into the Chargers,
who's hurt this year too, But they're just not the same. Right.
So you watch the Eagles, you go, how is this
team this good? And the answer of the last couple
of weeks is their defense looks dominant. And we talked about,
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you know, edge pressure and what they were gonna do
and how he addressed that with Jalen Phillips, and he
looked fantastic tonight. And there's a domino effect when you
have a deep defensive line, it makes it easier on everybody.
And ever since Jalen Phillips these last two games, like
you feel Jalen Carter Moore, you feel Jordan Davis Moore.
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Nikobe Dean who got injured last year is back their
linebacking corps with him with Camm and I don't know,
the guy who was an All Pro last year is fantastic.
So now you go, do the Eagles have one of
the best front sevens in the NFL? And the answer
is yes. And then you also factor in that they
have I don't know, a top three corner in the NFL.
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They obviously Jaii are just retired or whatever, but they
trade for the dude from the Jets. They have a
bunch of other guys that they can just rotate through
on top of Cooper de Gen they do have most
teams have. If you have one high end corner, you're
ahead of the game. So they got a high end corner,
They have a good slot for corner. They just have
to figure it out at the other position, which welcome
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to the NFL. That's the way it works. They have
solid safety play and the defense these last two weeks
looks like he's got a chance to carry them, which
is fine. Their offense was a huge reason that they
were a dominant team last year. At any moment, Saque
could take one fifty or sixty. Aj and DeVante when
they were both on the field were unstoppable forces. That's
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not the case this year. Right, It's just not Eagles
fans know it. Even if you're like, don't hate on
Jalen Hurts, you have to acknowledge it doesn't look right.
But who cares if you're gonna have a defense like that?
Just has the Denver Broncos. Yeah, our offense been shitty
the majority of the year. We're up after we play
the Commanders and the Raiders, we're about to be eleven
and two. We apologize to nobody, and if I'm an
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Eagles fan, I go, yeah, whatever. This is why we
give Vic Fangio five six million dollars a year. That's
why we got Howwie Roseman, Wheeling and Delon because now
we'll just we'll win it on defense. And you start
looking around in the NFC and we'll get into Seattle
and the Rams for a little bit. It's like, yeah,
we'll take our chance with our defense against any team.
Jam donold want to roll into here. We like our
shot mass Stafford. He'd be tough. He is thirty eight
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years old, and we think we can hit him right.
Jordan Love, you saw how that went. Jared Goff, you
saw how that went. Well. Those guys are better than Caleb.
So now Caleb breaks a lot of tackles. We'll see
him in a couple of weeks on Black Friday. We'll
take our chances on that one too. The forty nine
Ers offensively that you know, be a good matchup, but defensively,
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if we can't score fifteen points against them, then we
got bigger issues. So I think if you're the Eagles
right now with Vic Fangio, you feel really really good
because offensively, like it is what it is, like, your
offense isn't gonna be good this year. You're gonna make
some big plays, maybe if you hit aj or DeVante
down the field, but like, I don't expect any sort
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of Tom Brady had a comment today he called the Bears.
He called him more more explosive than surgical. I'm like,
I like that, and that's what I think. The Eagles
have some variation of that to their offense, even though
it's not even that explosive, but they do have explosive capabilities.
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You just don't see it very often. But that defense
since Adam Jalen Phillips, looks elite. And the reason that
I think it is something that can sustain is because
I've seen Dick Fangio with high end players. When you
give him high end players, he kicks ass and takes names.
So if I think we just got to wrap our
head around that, the Eagles are now a defensive team.
And Sirianni was fifty five and twenty two after last
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week is now fifty six and twenty two. Wins a
lot of games, so you can say he's carried by
assistant coaches Harry Roseman, I've often been guilty of saying
that they just can't his records record, and tonight's a
good example. Like he's playing Dan Campbell, who I think
is one of the better coaches in the NFL, and
it wasn't even a fair fight. He just you know what,
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did Bobby Knight say? Stupid loses more games than smart wins.
He just let Dan Campbell do dumb things and they
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New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Okay. A couple other things.
I think today was tough. If you are a Sam
Donald Stan because you go, does he have a big
game problem? I think my big question mark coming out
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of the Seattle LA game is is Sam Donald not
good in big games? Or do the Rams just own them?
Because the Rams played him in the playoffs, punked them,
and today they picked them off four times. And these
weren't like random bass tiffed flying in the air that
happened a couple times against the Cardinals previous week ago.
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These your guys picking it off in stride like Sam
Donald hitting them in the numbers today was pretty rough.
And I think if I'm a Seattle fan, I just
go listen. Our coach is elite at what he does.
Their defense is fantastic. They held Matt Stafford do under
one hundred and fifty yards. One of the touchdowns was
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because Donald want his first pick led to an immediate touchdown.
The Seattle defense is elite, and that's Mike McDonald's baby.
I believe in Kubiak, and I don't put this because
I've seen this with Kevin O'Connell. I've seen this with Kubiak,
like this might be a Donald issue, and I do
think it's a good lesson for McDonald of like we
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might I might have to coach up my offensive coordinator
to have a different plan of attack with Sam in
some of these bigger games, because I do think for
the first time this year kind of that alert went off,
that went ooh, because he was hitting guys on the rams.
It was just like I told Coward, they like sped
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him up but also like slowed him down. Like he
just kind of felt lost. And years ago he had
the famous I'm seeing ghosts. It just felt like it.
He wasn't comfortable. He still made some big plays, he
still threw for two hundred and eighty yards, but you
throw four interceptions, you one deserve to lose. And honestly,
I have no clue how they had a chance to
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win it at the end of the game. It honestly
speaks to how complete of a team this is. If
Sam Darnold just throws two picks and two touchdowns, I
mean Seattle might win by fifteen points. So it really
he's the reason they lose. Now, he's also been the
reason they've won some games. So I'm not trying to
just crush the guy, but I do think we have
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to acknowledge some of these bigger games. I don't know
if he's more amped up coming in I don't know
if he felt the pressure because, let's face it, it
doesn't get much bigger in this You have the same record,
you're playing for the division. You already have a divisional loss.
They don't. It's on the road. This is a team
that knocked you out of the playoffs last year, even
though a lot of these guys obviously on your new
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team weren't a part of that. But like, this is
a big deal to Darnold, and he failed. I mean,
he was bad, and the difference in the game is
like Stafford, who historically has thrown some interceptions, did not.
So I just think on the bright side, if you're Seattle,
your coach, I think is like the equal right there
with McVeigh and Kyle. He's excellent. The problem is just
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the quarterback. It's just something to monitor, not writing the
guy off, not saying he can never win a big game,
but in our short sample size, since he's become a
good player starting in twenty twenty four, the Lions, the
Rams playoff game, and then the Rams game this year
did not go well. And this went really bad. And
I also think mcveigh's guy, Shua's defensive coordinator has some
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serious ownage on Sam whatever they are doing is completely
throwing them off. Because the other thing is the Rams
defensive backfield is not good. Mac Jones threw for six
hundred and fifty yards against them this year. Has annihilated
them through the air. Hell, Darnald threw for two hundred
and eighty yards, but he's putting guys in positions. And
maybe it's the pass rush as well. That Sam's just
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thrown it to them four times, and three of them
were about the one t bow one where he like
jumps in the air to do like the jump pass,
so he might as well just hand it to the
defensive back. It was. It was a rough day for Sam,
So congrats to the Rams. That was a massive win.
Sean McVay, I love Seattle in that spot. Now, if
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you would have told me that Darnald would have thrown
four interceptions, I would have said, I bet the Rams
win by twenty points. So it's it's still stunning. I was.
I'm pacing around the office as Sam gets the ball
at the one yard line and driving them down to midfield.
I don't quite know the clock operator in LA that
feels like it should be at double zero. He's like
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double pumping and he gets it to who do you
throw it to? Shaheed? It felt like that was more
than five seconds, but they still had a shots for
a game winning field goal and it was just wide right.
I do think at this point when you look at
the schedule that Denver should be the number one seed.
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You know, the Colts play the Chiefs this upcoming a week.
They still have to play the Texans. I do think
Denver is just in the driver's seat. They got the
Commanders coming up, they got the Raiders. They're gonna be
eleven and two with a ton of momentum and their defense.
Speaking of the Eagles, you know the Eagles at Jalen
Phillips like, oh, they got some really some great edge pressure.
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The Denver Broncos are on pace to break the sack
record in the history of the NFL. It feels like
every guy in their defensive line could just play like
the nine technique, way over the tight end and just
rush off the edge. Defensive tackles included. When you have
a defensive line that every guy feels like they have
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the speed of the defensive end, like a defensive end,
you know you're you're cooking with gas. The Broncos had
that with Peyton Manning, when they had DeMarcus Ware, when
they had Von Miller two obviously two Hall of famers
coming off the edge. They had Malik Jackson who was
a fantastic interior pass rusher who played at the speed
like an end. Same thing with Derek Wolf and it
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was like when those four guys were on, you had
no shot. That's how this group feels with just elite
dB play and obviously Certain's gonna come back, and just
a mentality of just team speed. You're like this thing
jumps off the tape and massive, massive win. I mean,
there was a moment when Kelsey scored where he thought
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this is going to be an elite chief victory on
the road in Denver against this defense. Travis is having
feels like the best game he's had in a couple
of years. What just a gut check victory and then
bow Knicks multiple big third downs, a big second and
eight that basically sealed the game. And unlike the Raider game,
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and unlike the Eagle game, and unlike some of these
games bow Knicks has played where through quarters he's skipping
balls and it's like his feet are all off. He
just doesn't look comfortable today, even in his incompletions, like
he looked much more comfortable. Doesn't mean he's not gonna
have negative plays, but he looked like a different player
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than the guy that we saw whatever ten days ago
against the Raiders, where he was just all over the
map and balls were flying up, down, and all around.
It was like, this is not a sustainable way to
play quarterback. Today was and obviously in a big spot
in a tie game against They're technically not the defending champs,
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but to the Broncos they might as well be. I mean,
you're playing a team that is one year division for
what seven or eight straight years, They've gone to five
of the last six Super Bowls. They're the fucking Kansasy Chiefs.
And even I think they mentioned this on the broadcast,
like Sean Payton's been talking about this team since the
moment he took this job. They're the big bad Wolf.
They're the team you're chasing, and they're the team that
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you know. Last year they had an opportunity to beat
this team and the field goal got blocked and the
Chiefs were incredible in these one score games. And still
this year, like at the end of the day, the
downfall of this team, and I think right now, I
was looking at their schedule earlier today, like they'll probably
go end up going ten to seven. But the downfall
of them was blowing the game to the Chargers. Definitely
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the game to the Jags. Like if I told you
at the beginning of the year, you know the Chiefs
are gonna go twelve and five one of their losses,
you'd have been I can see them losing on the
road to Denver, Like this is one of those you're
doing win lost game. I say, hey, they win twelve games,
this might be one of the games where you put
an L next to it. This is not a bad loss.
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Losing on a last second field goal to the best
defense to a team in your division on the road
not that weird. The problem is when you have dropped
some of these weird games throughout the season, this game
really bites you in the ass. And then you look
up and you got the Jags just curb stomping the Chargers.
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Like that's a little problematic. But I don't view the
Chiefs like as a bad team. They just like the
thing that went for them last year, all the one
score games is now working against them. And they got
into a spot whereas must win in the middle of
November on the road at Denver, now must win to
win the division. They're not gonna win the division this year.
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And to me, it's like they've won it a bunch
of years in a row and they've earned it. I mean,
they've been a dominant team and this year like this
is not gonna happen. I'll tell you this though, if
they're the seventh seed, that sucks for the two seed,
saying that they won't lose in the first round, but
that would not be the first team like Meanwhile, the
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seventh seed in the in the NFC is gonna be
the forty nine ers with absolutely nobody on defense, or
like the Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams, who are just
winning the wildest games you've ever seen against not good teams.
So I just think, and that's not I'm not shitting
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the Titans teams, the Bengals. They love to pay the
Chargers pre Jim Harbaugh. They like a coach that doesn't
cost much money, and typically in the NFL, you get
what you paid for. Well, last year they gave thirteen
million dollars to Ben Johnson and he has been fantastic,
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and today he put on full display like, hey guys,
I'm a better coach than Kevin O'Connell. And people think
I hate Kevin O'Connell. Help people think I hate the Bears.
People think all sorts of stuff that's just untrue. I
have nothing against either. Kevin O'Connell seems like a great guy.
He's obviously a good coach, but he does have a
fatal flaw and Ben Johnson for being a younger kind
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of innovative guy is actually an old school football guy
at heart. You know why he wants to run the ball.
I think a perfect game plan for him would be
like forty five rush attempts. A perfect game plan for
Kevin O'Connell would be like fifty pass attempts. The problem
for Kevin O'Connell is he has a guy that can't
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really complete passes, and when you're gonna call pass after
pass after pass, especially deep passes, which he clearly struggles
to complete. He threw another interception on a go route today.
I think last week he threw two on post routes.
Today he threw one on a go route. Stop calling
those routes for the guy. And I got a lot
on social media that John it's not on the coach.
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We gotta find out if JJ can swim in the
deep end. It's time to even find out can can
he keep his head above water? Is he gonna sink?
There's some truth to that, but in the reality is
you were just trying to win the game to day
against Chicago Bears, and the best tactic to win the
game against Chicago Bears today would be to call some
more runs, because your guy, when it came to passing
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the ball was all over the bleeping map. Even on
basically like out routes to Justin Jefferson, there was one
pass that he could have been Shaquille O'Neill with Kevin
Garnett on his shoulders and that ball still would have
gone over both their heads. JJ McCarthy is not very
good at football right now relative to the NFL, and
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what Kevin O'Connell is asking him to do is something
that he can't do, and that's carry the team from
a passing standpoint. Caleb Williams can be very hit or
missed with that. You know what Ben Johnson did earlier
this season, like, hey, Kleb, I'm not gonna ask you
to do what they were asking you to do last
year and throw the ball forty fifty times a game.
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We are going to run the ball, and when all
use fails, I'm gonna call another run. Now you're gonna
have to make some plays. And Caleb is scrambling around
like it's pretty incredible to watch. He is tossing guys,
he is breaking tackles like he's Ben Roethlisberger Cam Newton,
but google how big those guys work. Caleb's like six',
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one but his, STRENGTH i, mean we talk about how he's.
Built guys can't sack him right. NOW i, MEAN i,
mean you better get two guys on him if you
want to bring him, down because if it's one, guy
he's shaking him off and he's scrambling. Away Like Caleb
williams looks Like Ben roethlisberger compared TO jj. McCarthy but
TODAY i saw one guy who knew his team strengths and,
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weaknesses who knew his player strengths and, weaknesses and was
desperately trying to win a. Game AND i saw another
guy who just calls plays like he always calls. Plays
i'm calling. Passes that's WHAT i. DO i call. Passes, hey, Hey,
kevin you're averaging over five yards of carry here in
the first. HALF i don't. Care we're passing the. Rock,
well you're not gonna win that. Way and then it's, like,
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WELL jj had the final drive for a. Touchdown that's,
great but what about the rest of the. Game it
was remarkable that The vikings were even in that. Game
it honestly speaks To Brian flores who's done a hell
of a, job and their defense was playing their ass off.
Today but Holy, molly now. Listen obviously they had some.
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Drops addison had a, Couple hawkinson had one bad one
also made some. Plays jefferson had a bad. DROP i
think at one point in time in the game they
had five or. Six so they had some. Drops but
last week The bears had some. Drops it's, Football you're
gonna have some. Drops it's just the relentless nature of
calling the. Passes to, me it felt like insanity watching.
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It and, Listen i'm a guy who's my time in
THE nfl was Around Andy reid like calling pass places,
too but sometimes you need to settle your player. Down
and the only way to settle the quarterback down just
to call a. Handoff just let everyone take a deep.
Breath and he. Tried he would do it a couple of.
Times he'd be, like fuck, This jordan J, justin run
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a deep, comeback run a post. Route it's, like, bro
this is not going to. Work SO i thought, today,
listen everyone is going to take a giant dump ON
jj McCarthy in his career and. Listen some of it's definitely,
fair but the. Coach, now we saw it last year
With Sam darnold in some of the big. Games you're
seeing it this. Year he cannot pivot off his pass
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place and he just doesn't want, it and he's shown
like he won't like it's not even that he just
he refuses to and when all us, fails he's just
going to call pass. PLAY a couple things before we
get out of. HERE i spent a lot of time
On saturday with my dog on the, couch just ordering door,
dash slamming, gatorades finishing at ten of, zones and just watching.
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Football watched a lot of, football AND i had two big.
Takeaways this is a couch scouting. Me no longer a
guy banging all twenty, two just just watching games like
most fans on A saturday. Afternoon Jeremiah, love the running
back For Notre, dame is an elite running back. Prospect,
now we saw last Year Ashton genty get drafted six.
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Overall you knew WHERE i. STAND i thought it was
kind of. Crazy not THAT i didn't like the, player
BUT i didn't think. One it's LIKE i understand the.
Draft you can only take the players in that given.
Class i'm just LIKE i struggle taking this running back
BECAUSE i didn't put them in the category of like
the last seven eight, years there were three or four
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guys that were just elite, Prospects Saquon, Barkley christian, McCaffrey Bjohn.
Robinson Obviously saquan was. TWO i think those other two
guys were both. EIGHT i would Put Jeremiah love directly
in those. Guys you could Put gibbs in those guys
category as. Well, right they traded back from six to
twelve and took them at, twelve and Even Brad holmes,
said if we couldn't have made the, trade we would
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have taken him at, six and if they had taken
him at, six no one would be. Complaining SO i
would Put gibbs in the kind of that. World love
is just. ELITE i, mean he's the total, package AND
i think if this was nineteen ninety, eight he would
be in the mix to be the number one overall.
Pick if Action gent can go six overall in a,
draft this guy could go like negative. Five he's to,
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me he's in a different class than. Genty SO i
just think this, guy he's the total. Package and that's
What bijon, was you, know sa Kuon. Is his hands
can be a little hit or, miss but he's such
a good back and speed with so. Elites, obviously McCaffrey
just does everything so. Well he's basically like the white
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version Of marshall falk Or Ladanian thomlinson And gibbs is
like this, explosive explosive version OF i don't even. Know
he's like his own unique. Player BUT i Think Jeremiah
love is just just a, special special. Talent And i've
watched a lot of college. Football to, me he's he's
as good as. Anyone you know this plane, Right i'd
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put him In Jeremiah. Smith it's the best two offensive.
Players and speaking of offensive, PLAYERS i understand why we do,
this And i'm guilty of this, too of, like, hey
these are the top. Quarterbacks these are top, quarterbacks and
guys have a good stretch and you played a big.
Program we talk about. You But i've seen a lot
of like mock drafts and just people, like, hey Could
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Tys simpson The alabama quarterback go to The, jets go
to The Cleveland, browns go to one of these quarterback
desperate teams and help change the course of their. Franchise
and my response after watching him the last couple of,
weeks the second half last week AGAINST, lsu they started
hitting him and he looked. Terrible In oklahoma yesterday in
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the second half With Brett venables absolutely worked. Him And
i'm not trying to shit on, It Ty. SIMPSON i
think he's played, really really well And i'm really impressed
because my expectations after the first couple of weeks were
not very. High but he's done. Well but his Store
berkeley him like that specific player WENT i don't, know,
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fourth fifth, round and now we talk because the quarterback.
Inflation these guys going in the first, round it's. INSANE i,
mean once upon a time guys Like Kirk cousins And
Dak prescott went in the third and fourth. Round Dak
prescott Had Mississippi. State people forget, this at one point in,
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time they were competing to be the number one team
in the country his senior. Year cousins had Like Michigan
state have the greatest stretch of program history with. D'Antonio
but those, guys no one's, like, oh that guy should
go like a pick. Six no one talked like. That
AND i Think Ty simpson because everyone's like, oh we
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need a. Quarterback we need a. Quarterback, yeah in the fourth,
round he'd be, fine and maybe he could be a,
starter maybe be a, backup who. Knows but first, round top,
five are you guys on crack? Cocaine SO i think
we need to be, very very careful because watching these quarterbacks,
over you, know as they start playing conference play and better,
players especially THE sec. Guys you, know you See Lenora,
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sellers you saw this With garrettnssmeyer earlier in the. Season
it's like they start get exposed and none of these
guys are changing your. Franchise none of them, are and
definitely none of them are worth a top, five top ten.
Pick some of them should go back to, school some
of them should just. Stay some of them jump off the.
Bait it's Like Jeremiah, smith we should have a rule
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once a year you should apply and like THE gm should, vote, like,
hey DO i need to come back for my junior
year or CAN i just go? Pro it could have
happened with Like parsons And Jamar chase and Pane sewel
that one year with THE vid year when they all opted.
Out but like every once in a, while you get
a guy that's like a true. Sophomore it's, like, yeah
there's no point in him. Staying AND i don't want
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like these guys to be able to come out to
THE nfl, whenever BECAUSE i do think in football physical
league boys developing like it makes. Sense But Jeremiah love
like OR i, Mean Jeremiah smith doesn't need to. STAY
i like THE gms just be like give an, exception he's.
Cool BUT i just think you Watch Ty simpson and you,
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GO i JUST i don't see. IT i don't see
it at. ALL i don't see it with any of
these quarterbacks beside maybe the kid In. Indiana Dante moore's
pretty damn. Good obviously has a big game this, week
an'st Usc AND i also think you're gonna see all
these guys are gonna be in the, playoffs and we'll
see when they play the best teams and the best.
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Defenses and this is where you got to be very.
Careful like there's no hype in THE, nfl Right like
Bow knicks was shitty last, week he was good. Today
there's no. Height you either good or you're bad right
on a weekly bas LIKE jj McCarthy had a good
fourth quarter once against The. Bears ever, since it's been.
Terrible just like objective, takes we're in college because they're,
young guys. Improve there's just, like, hey this what this
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guy can. Be this guy can improve a. Lot it's, like,
Okay arch is kind of gaining some, momentum and then
he Plays. Georgia it's, like, well he was actually pretty
good early. On he's definitely. Improved AND i was An
arch critic just because ever the hype On arch was so.
OUTRAGEOUS i felt LIKE i had to fan the flames
a little. BIT i had to grab my hose and put,
out you, know kind of the just the growing momentum
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of like this guy's gonna be the number one overall,
pick win The, heisman and be the greatest player we've ever.
Seen it's, like, guys he's never even started against a real, opponent,
right this wasn't like In, june and now it's, like,
okay we just we got a little time and who,
knows you, Know, arch you give him another, offseason maybe
he can. IMPROVE i would kind of bet against, it but,
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Listen i'd never bet against like a nineteen or twenty year.
Old it's gonna happen all the, time and it's gonna
happen to a lot of guys you've never heard of
right backups that are gonna become starters and then go
to THE. Nfl but the guys that are playing right,
NOW i, think If i'm A browns, fan If i'm
A jets, fan do not look for one of these
guys to Be Peyton manning Or Andrew luck Or Joe
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burrow and just flip your franchise, overnight Because i'll promise
you it's just not gonna happen in this. Class BEFORE
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The cowboys in this, game which makes. SENSE i, mean
The raiders are Terrible Monday Night. Football as the year goes,
on it does feel like you're gonna get some. UPSETS
a couple of years, AGO i think it was The
giants against The. Eagles we've just had weird games late
in the. Season you just never. Know i'm taking The
raiders plus. Three i'm Taking Ashton genty wouldn't shock me
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If Aston genty has a big game. Tomorrow cowboys defense
thinks though they have added a couple of defensive lignment
And Ceedee. Lamb both those two guys anytime touchdowns pay
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I was thinking about this. I actually was thinking about
this yesterday. I was like, I need some like just
consistent advice to give people and something that just could
be universal. And I was like, you know, one thing
that really benefited me and it was kind of luck, right,
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it happened to be like a guy my dad worked for,
my buddy's grandpa and my buddy's dad, like people that
really really influenced me as a kid. I just think
had big balls, and those were people I've always admired
in life. And you know, I've worked for people that
just kind of had some nuts on them and we're
not scared. And I think the more you surround yourself
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with people like that in life, the more prepared you
are for the real world. And I've been I've been
very fortunate and very lucky, and I always gravitate towards
those type people. And Dan Campbell obviously falls under that category.
But I also think there is a line of like
having stones and being reckless, and I think there is
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a fine line, and sometimes people jump over that line
and get themselves in trouble. I've been guilty of that.
I'm sure you have as well, whether it's personally, whether
it's financially, whether it's in a job situation, and I
think you watch Dan Campbell tonight and I don't think
there's any way around it, like he was reckless. Going
forward on fourth down is something that is supported in
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football now and most of us are behind. I've always
said most people on their couch in the nineties, in
the two thousands, back when football was much more conservative
in terms of like kicking field goals or punting, we're
screaming at the television, go for it. So in this
new world of analytics where the numbers are on the
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side of you know, telling the offensive coordinators or head
coaches to lean be aggressive that like the fans are
on board. But there's also a line of like this
is a defensive game and sometimes field position in a
game that is six to six or thirteen to six,
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you don't need to always go forward on fourth down, right,
You don't always need to go for two, right in
a game that kicking the extra points are ultimately going
to be the difference at the end. And I think
you watched the night and you went, Dan, this is
not twenty twenty four when you were playing the Green
Bay Packers and the video of you on Wednesday, because
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I think Hard Knocks in season was documenting you went
really viral and you basically put it all on the
offense because you had a bunch of defensive injuries and
you said, it's all on us, We're gonna go for
it every time, and everyone understood you had to. You
were playing me the dude down the street and your
mother at linebacker, and dB totally understand. Tonight you're playing
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the Philadelphia Eagles, whose offense is atrocious. I think if
you gave AJ Brown the opportunity and you said, AJ
we'll still pay you, you don't have to play for
this team, he'd be like, well, can I play for
another team? You can't, but you just don't have to
play for this team anymore. I think he'd be like, cool,
I'm done for the year. I'm over this. No one
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feels less interested than AJ Brown and what they got
going on. The Eagles offense is atrocious to watch. It
is awful. They have no passing game. The game because
of offensive line injuries sucks. I mean Saquan struggling to
average three yards to carry because there's nowhere for him
to go. All the metrics, you know, are are proving
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that he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage, he's
got nowhere to go. That their offense is awful to watch.
But that's who you're playing. You're not playing Bret Fahr,
if you're not playing Aaron Rodgers, you're not playing the
Eagles of last year. You're playing this Eagles team that
was had no chance to get to twenty points. So
sometimes punting the ball or wait for it, kicking field
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goals when your field goal kicker looks pretty good to
me makes some sense. And he had a stretch in
the third quarter where he went for it three times
on fourth down. None of them did he accomplished his
goal when he said go for it, guys, and then
twice he essentially forced three and outs for the Eagles
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and got the ball right back. Here's the other thing,
and I've said this all the time, like on the conversation,
when it comes to going for two or situations late
in game, I do think you have to factor in
always who you're playing and how your offense is doing.
And tonight, Jared Goff, and I've said this forever. I'm
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born and raised in California. I'm forty, just turned forty
one a month ago. Of those forty one years of
my life, I think if I did the math, thirty
four thirty five of them were spent either in San Luis, Obispo, Fresno,
or Davis, California. Slashed the Bay Area. The overwhelming majority
of my life was on the in California, on the
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West coast, and now I live in Scotts Steel. We
do not do well in cold weather. I lived in
Philadelphia for a couple of years. I hated it. I
couldn't stand it. You know why the way my body
and the uh, the temperature of my blood does not
deal with it. Why I'm not accustomed to it. When
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I grew up, if I wanted to go to cold weather,
we got in a car and we drove two and
a half hours to Lake Tahoe, and when we were
over it, we left. So when I see Jared Goff
wearing two gloves in that environment. I lived in Philly
for two years, I've been to some games that were really,
really cold. One time, I think my first year working
for the Eagles, we played the Minnesota Vikings with Brett Farbe.
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Actually I think he had gotten injured, so their backup
quarterback I got I forget his name. He's like a
former wide receivers like this hybrid player wasn't very good,
even though he beat us. The Sunday night game got
delayed by two nights. It was played on Tuesday because
of like a sleet hurricane. Everything was frozen and tonight
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wasn't that it was windy, it was cold. Jared Goff
had to wear two gloves. I'm like, this is not
gonna work. He looked extremely uncomfortable. Now. Part of that,
and we'll get into it, is Vic fai Jioe in
the defense, which looks dominant right now. But you could
tell early that Jared Goff wanted no part of this
cold because guess what, most people from warm weather don't
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like the cold. You'd be like, well, John, he lives
in Detroit. They play in a dome. They don't play
in the in inclement weather. No different than Minnesota. It's freezing,
but they don't do that. That's not how they play
right now. If you play at Kansas City or in
Baltimore and Pittsburgh, you don't have a choice. You have
to play outside. But given where they play like, he's
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in a controlled environment, so his entire career is cal
which you know can be overcast and a little misty,
but it sure is LA thirty degrees. And then he
went to LA and now he's playing in a dome,
so when you put him outdoors, it doesn't look the same.
And I'm a Jared Goff fan, but I've always said,
like I understand the California guys, especially the West Coast players.
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When you put him in weather, it can get ugly,
and it can get ugly really fast. So the head
coach has to know this. So this notion of like
sh Peyton taught me to be ballsy and be not
be conservative like Bill Parcells all for it, totally on board,
but you could tell early like this ain't a good idea. Dan,
just kick a couple of field goals because you never know,
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Jalen could throw it to you, Jalen could fumble, something
weird could happen. But instead of being down thirteen six,
what if you're down thirteen to twelve or sixteen to
twelve and just put yourself and give yourself some momentum.
But every time you go forward on fourth down, and
tonight it didn't even feel remotely close. And one thing
you're clearly missing, which is no one's fault. He's just injured.
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Is Sam Laporta, who would obviously be pretty valuable on
some of these fourth and fours or fourth and fives.
But then as the game went on, you start punning
in the fourth quarter. It's like, why are you punting now?
What the fuck is going on? And the answer is
I you know, I think he just naturally goes for
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it and then he realizes his quarterback, like we all realize,
is not on and playing the worst game what feels like,
of the last several years, and then he changes course
in the fourth quarter. You can't do that. You cannot
do that. I thought Dan Campbell was atrocious tonight, really,
And I am a Dan Campbell fan, I have, I have.
I revere the guy for what he has done in
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that franchise which was a laughingstock, which was a joke,
and turn them into a winning place. But tonight, like
it just wasn't good. It wasn't because of the decisions.
I'm not I'm not like nitpicking the place right one
play on fourth down to Saint Brown who wasn't open,
one play up the gut to Gibbs, like I'm not
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gonna false you forgiving the ball to Gibbs. It's so
easy to play Monday morning quarterback on an individual play call.
I'm more, I more have an issue with the ultimate
decision of like just take the points here, Just take
a deep breath and take the points. Give your quarterback
like that's a positive drive that was successful, instead of
just like handing the ball back to Philadelphia, especially when
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your defense is gonna force three plays and get the
ball right back. It made no sense. He approached tonight,
and I said this earlier, like they were playing the
Philadelphia Eagles team that they were playing no different than
they were playing the Green Bay Packers last year, when
he told the team that we're going to go for
it every time, Which why would you have that mindset
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and that game plan against a team whose offense just
the previous week score ten points. Their offense is broken,
it's not working. You can use that to your advantage,
keep it low scoring and give yourself a chance in
the fourth quarter. And tonight, technically he did, I mean
the referees at the end of the game calling that
penalty on the Lions corner. The Temple Kid against aj
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Brown is an embarrassment, but like the officials oftentime are
a joke. My only issue, and I'm someone that had
the Lions. It's hard for me, like, obviously that was
a bad call at the end of the game, like
that shouldn't happen. But I almost feel like I did
with Seattle, like you have no business winning this game.
You don't deserve to win this game. You honestly deserve
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to loose. And I listen, I'll give Dan Campbell the
benefit of doubt as an overall play caller a tough environment.
His quarterback is just crumbling like a cookie. He's playing
arguably the best defensive coordinator whose defense looks fantastic. It's
gonna be a tough spot. But the decisions on fourth down,
I don't care what nerds over the next twenty four
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hours be like that's the right decision. No, not to
night under no circumstances is the right decision. It's the
wrong decision, and it just it had a huge, huge
impact on the Lions tonight. And if they're gonna be
in situations which Chicago Bears, who are currently in first place,
congrats to Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, who again are
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in first place in the middle of November. Remember last year,
we're about a week away from when Eberflus blew the
end of the game on Thanksgiving. So the Bears have
come a long way in a short period of time.
Now do I think they're ultimately going to win the division?
I'd be a little surprised, But at this point in time,
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who knows. But I do know this that the Lions
feel much more likely to be playing in a wild
card game on the road in Philadelphia, in Seattle, in
Tampa now, depending on it could be the rams that
the weather might or might not be a factor. Who
knows at Philadelphia that he's gonna have to rethink some
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of this with his quarterback. Even if the Porto's back
guy's got two gloves, he just looks cold. You know,
when you see an individually like some people. You ever
watch Big Dom with the Eagles, regardless of the weather,
he won't have long sleeves on, completely unfazed. Like whether
it's twenty degrees or seventy degrees, Big Dom looks the same.
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Yet you look at Jared Goff, that thing gets below
about fifty five. You're like, God, I just don't like
what do I need to put on a sweatshirt. He's
making me feel cold. So rough. Rough night for Dan Campbell,
even though his defense was playing pretty well, and props
to Kelvin Sheppard, he's done an excellent job on defense.
And speaking of defense, it doesn't feel like we're that
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far removed from going God. I don't think the Eagles
defense is very good like we've known like this year.
The Eagles offense has had issues. AJ Brown isn't even
hiding it. He despises everything about the offense, the play calling.
Don't think he likes the quarterback. He's just over it.
And he will be traded in about three and a
half months. But right now he's on the team and
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clearly Saquan who is the opposite, like total team guy,
there's just nowhere for him to go. I mean, he
struggled to average three yards of carry tonight. Their interior
offensive line is not good. I mean, I mean they
got stuck tonight on a tush push, not like it
was his next onek Like they got pushed the other
way because their guard center guard is just not even
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remotely close to what it was last year. Part of
that's injuries and the uh losing becked into the Chargers,
who's hurt this year too, But they're just not the same. Right.
So you watch the Eagles, you go, how is this
team this good? And the answer of the last couple
of weeks is their defense looks dominant. And we talked about,
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you know, edge pressure and what they were gonna do
and how he addressed that with Jalen Phillips, and he
looked fantastic tonight. And there's a domino effect when you
have a deep defensive line, it makes it easier on everybody.
And ever since Jalen Phillips these last two games, like
you feel Jalen Carter Moore, you feel Jordan Davis Moore.
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Nikobe Dean who got injured last year is back their
linebacking corps with him with Camm and I don't know,
the guy who was an All Pro last year is fantastic.
So now you go, do the Eagles have one of
the best front sevens in the NFL? And the answer
is yes. And then you also factor in that they
have I don't know, a top three corner in the NFL.
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They obviously Jaii are just retired or whatever, but they
trade for the dude from the Jets. They have a
bunch of other guys that they can just rotate through
on top of Cooper de Gen they do have most
teams have. If you have one high end corner, you're
ahead of the game. So they got a high end corner,
They have a good slot for corner. They just have
to figure it out at the other position, which welcome
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to the NFL. That's the way it works. They have
solid safety play and the defense these last two weeks
looks like he's got a chance to carry them, which
is fine. Their offense was a huge reason that they
were a dominant team last year. At any moment, Saque
could take one fifty or sixty. Aj and DeVante when
they were both on the field were unstoppable forces. That's
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not the case this year. Right, It's just not Eagles
fans know it. Even if you're like, don't hate on
Jalen Hurts, you have to acknowledge it doesn't look right.
But who cares if you're gonna have a defense like that?
Just has the Denver Broncos. Yeah, our offense been shitty
the majority of the year. We're up after we play
the Commanders and the Raiders, we're about to be eleven
and two. We apologize to nobody, and if I'm an
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Eagles fan, I go, yeah, whatever. This is why we
give Vic Fangio five six million dollars a year. That's
why we got Howwie Roseman, Wheeling and Delon because now
we'll just we'll win it on defense. And you start
looking around in the NFC and we'll get into Seattle
and the Rams for a little bit. It's like, yeah,
we'll take our chance with our defense against any team.
Jam donold want to roll into here. We like our
shot mass Stafford. He'd be tough. He is thirty eight
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years old, and we think we can hit him right.
Jordan Love, you saw how that went. Jared Goff, you
saw how that went. Well. Those guys are better than Caleb.
So now Caleb breaks a lot of tackles. We'll see
him in a couple of weeks on Black Friday. We'll
take our chances on that one too. The forty nine
Ers offensively that you know, be a good matchup, but defensively,
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if we can't score fifteen points against them, then we
got bigger issues. So I think if you're the Eagles
right now with Vic Fangio, you feel really really good
because offensively, like it is what it is, like, your
offense isn't gonna be good this year. You're gonna make
some big plays, maybe if you hit aj or DeVante
down the field, but like, I don't expect any sort
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of Tom Brady had a comment today he called the Bears.
He called him more more explosive than surgical. I'm like,
I like that, and that's what I think. The Eagles
have some variation of that to their offense, even though
it's not even that explosive, but they do have explosive capabilities.
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You just don't see it very often. But that defense
since Adam Jalen Phillips, looks elite. And the reason that
I think it is something that can sustain is because
I've seen Dick Fangio with high end players. When you
give him high end players, he kicks ass and takes names.
So if I think we just got to wrap our
head around that, the Eagles are now a defensive team.
And Sirianni was fifty five and twenty two after last
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week is now fifty six and twenty two. Wins a
lot of games, so you can say he's carried by
assistant coaches Harry Roseman, I've often been guilty of saying
that they just can't his records record, and tonight's a
good example. Like he's playing Dan Campbell, who I think
is one of the better coaches in the NFL, and
it wasn't even a fair fight. He just you know what,
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New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Okay. A couple other things.
I think today was tough. If you are a Sam
Donald Stan because you go, does he have a big
game problem? I think my big question mark coming out
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of the Seattle LA game is is Sam Donald not
good in big games? Or do the Rams just own them?
Because the Rams played him in the playoffs, punked them,
and today they picked them off four times. And these
weren't like random bass tiffed flying in the air that
happened a couple times against the Cardinals previous week ago.
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These your guys picking it off in stride like Sam
Donald hitting them in the numbers today was pretty rough.
And I think if I'm a Seattle fan, I just
go listen. Our coach is elite at what he does.
Their defense is fantastic. They held Matt Stafford do under
one hundred and fifty yards. One of the touchdowns was
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because Donald want his first pick led to an immediate touchdown.
The Seattle defense is elite, and that's Mike McDonald's baby.
I believe in Kubiak, and I don't put this because
I've seen this with Kevin O'Connell. I've seen this with Kubiak,
like this might be a Donald issue, and I do
think it's a good lesson for McDonald of like we
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might I might have to coach up my offensive coordinator
to have a different plan of attack with Sam in
some of these bigger games, because I do think for
the first time this year kind of that alert went off,
that went ooh, because he was hitting guys on the rams.
It was just like I told Coward, they like sped
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him up but also like slowed him down. Like he
just kind of felt lost. And years ago he had
the famous I'm seeing ghosts. It just felt like it.
He wasn't comfortable. He still made some big plays, he
still threw for two hundred and eighty yards, but you
throw four interceptions, you one deserve to lose. And honestly,
I have no clue how they had a chance to
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win it at the end of the game. It honestly
speaks to how complete of a team this is. If
Sam Darnold just throws two picks and two touchdowns, I
mean Seattle might win by fifteen points. So it really
he's the reason they lose. Now, he's also been the
reason they've won some games. So I'm not trying to
just crush the guy, but I do think we have
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to acknowledge some of these bigger games. I don't know
if he's more amped up coming in I don't know
if he felt the pressure because, let's face it, it
doesn't get much bigger in this You have the same record,
you're playing for the division. You already have a divisional loss.
They don't. It's on the road. This is a team
that knocked you out of the playoffs last year, even
though a lot of these guys obviously on your new
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team weren't a part of that. But like, this is
a big deal to Darnold, and he failed. I mean,
he was bad, and the difference in the game is
like Stafford, who historically has thrown some interceptions, did not.
So I just think on the bright side, if you're Seattle,
your coach, I think is like the equal right there
with McVeigh and Kyle. He's excellent. The problem is just
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the quarterback. It's just something to monitor, not writing the
guy off, not saying he can never win a big game,
but in our short sample size, since he's become a
good player starting in twenty twenty four, the Lions, the
Rams playoff game, and then the Rams game this year
did not go well. And this went really bad. And
I also think mcveigh's guy, Shua's defensive coordinator has some
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serious ownage on Sam whatever they are doing is completely
throwing them off. Because the other thing is the Rams
defensive backfield is not good. Mac Jones threw for six
hundred and fifty yards against them this year. Has annihilated
them through the air. Hell, Darnald threw for two hundred
and eighty yards, but he's putting guys in positions. And
maybe it's the pass rush as well. That Sam's just
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thrown it to them four times, and three of them
were about the one t bow one where he like
jumps in the air to do like the jump pass,
so he might as well just hand it to the
defensive back. It was. It was a rough day for Sam,
So congrats to the Rams. That was a massive win.
Sean McVay, I love Seattle in that spot. Now, if
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you would have told me that Darnald would have thrown
four interceptions, I would have said, I bet the Rams
win by twenty points. So it's it's still stunning. I was.
I'm pacing around the office as Sam gets the ball
at the one yard line and driving them down to midfield.
I don't quite know the clock operator in LA that
feels like it should be at double zero. He's like
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double pumping and he gets it to who do you
throw it to? Shaheed? It felt like that was more
than five seconds, but they still had a shots for
a game winning field goal and it was just wide right.
I do think at this point when you look at
the schedule that Denver should be the number one seed.
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You know, the Colts play the Chiefs this upcoming a week.
They still have to play the Texans. I do think
Denver is just in the driver's seat. They got the
Commanders coming up, they got the Raiders. They're gonna be
eleven and two with a ton of momentum and their defense.
Speaking of the Eagles, you know the Eagles at Jalen
Phillips like, oh, they got some really some great edge pressure.
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The Denver Broncos are on pace to break the sack
record in the history of the NFL. It feels like
every guy in their defensive line could just play like
the nine technique, way over the tight end and just
rush off the edge. Defensive tackles included. When you have
a defensive line that every guy feels like they have
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the speed of the defensive end, like a defensive end,
you know you're you're cooking with gas. The Broncos had
that with Peyton Manning, when they had DeMarcus Ware, when
they had Von Miller two obviously two Hall of famers
coming off the edge. They had Malik Jackson who was
a fantastic interior pass rusher who played at the speed
like an end. Same thing with Derek Wolf and it
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was like when those four guys were on, you had
no shot. That's how this group feels with just elite
dB play and obviously Certain's gonna come back, and just
a mentality of just team speed. You're like this thing
jumps off the tape and massive, massive win. I mean,
there was a moment when Kelsey scored where he thought
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this is going to be an elite chief victory on
the road in Denver against this defense. Travis is having
feels like the best game he's had in a couple
of years. What just a gut check victory and then
bow Knicks multiple big third downs, a big second and
eight that basically sealed the game. And unlike the Raider game,
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and unlike the Eagle game, and unlike some of these
games bow Knicks has played where through quarters he's skipping
balls and it's like his feet are all off. He
just doesn't look comfortable today, even in his incompletions, like
he looked much more comfortable. Doesn't mean he's not gonna
have negative plays, but he looked like a different player
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than the guy that we saw whatever ten days ago
against the Raiders, where he was just all over the
map and balls were flying up, down, and all around.
It was like, this is not a sustainable way to
play quarterback. Today was and obviously in a big spot
in a tie game against They're technically not the defending champs,
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but to the Broncos they might as well be. I mean,
you're playing a team that is one year division for
what seven or eight straight years, They've gone to five
of the last six Super Bowls. They're the fucking Kansasy Chiefs.
And even I think they mentioned this on the broadcast,
like Sean Payton's been talking about this team since the
moment he took this job. They're the big bad Wolf.
They're the team you're chasing, and they're the team that
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you know. Last year they had an opportunity to beat
this team and the field goal got blocked and the
Chiefs were incredible in these one score games. And still
this year, like at the end of the day, the
downfall of this team, and I think right now, I
was looking at their schedule earlier today, like they'll probably
go end up going ten to seven. But the downfall
of them was blowing the game to the Chargers. Definitely
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the game to the Jags. Like if I told you
at the beginning of the year, you know the Chiefs
are gonna go twelve and five one of their losses,
you'd have been I can see them losing on the
road to Denver, Like this is one of those you're
doing win lost game. I say, hey, they win twelve games,
this might be one of the games where you put
an L next to it. This is not a bad loss.
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Losing on a last second field goal to the best
defense to a team in your division on the road
not that weird. The problem is when you have dropped
some of these weird games throughout the season, this game
really bites you in the ass. And then you look
up and you got the Jags just curb stomping the Chargers.
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Like that's a little problematic. But I don't view the
Chiefs like as a bad team. They just like the
thing that went for them last year, all the one
score games is now working against them. And they got
into a spot whereas must win in the middle of
November on the road at Denver, now must win to
win the division. They're not gonna win the division this year.
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And to me, it's like they've won it a bunch
of years in a row and they've earned it. I mean,
they've been a dominant team and this year like this
is not gonna happen. I'll tell you this though, if
they're the seventh seed, that sucks for the two seed,
saying that they won't lose in the first round, but
that would not be the first team like Meanwhile, the
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the forty nine ers with absolutely nobody on defense, or
like the Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams, who are just
winning the wildest games you've ever seen against not good teams.
So I just think, and that's not I'm not shitting
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the Titans teams, the Bengals. They love to pay the
Chargers pre Jim Harbaugh. They like a coach that doesn't
cost much money, and typically in the NFL, you get
what you paid for. Well, last year they gave thirteen
million dollars to Ben Johnson and he has been fantastic,
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and today he put on full display like, hey guys,
I'm a better coach than Kevin O'Connell. And people think
I hate Kevin O'Connell. Help people think I hate the Bears.
People think all sorts of stuff that's just untrue. I
have nothing against either. Kevin O'Connell seems like a great guy.
He's obviously a good coach, but he does have a
fatal flaw and Ben Johnson for being a younger kind
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of innovative guy is actually an old school football guy
at heart. You know why he wants to run the ball.
I think a perfect game plan for him would be
like forty five rush attempts. A perfect game plan for
Kevin O'Connell would be like fifty pass attempts. The problem
for Kevin O'Connell is he has a guy that can't
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really complete passes, and when you're gonna call pass after
pass after pass, especially deep passes, which he clearly struggles
to complete. He threw another interception on a go route today.
I think last week he threw two on post routes.
Today he threw one on a go route. Stop calling
those routes for the guy. And I got a lot
on social media that John it's not on the coach.
(36:50):
We gotta find out if JJ can swim in the
deep end. It's time to even find out can can
he keep his head above water? Is he gonna sink?
There's some truth to that, but in the reality is
you were just trying to win the game to day
against Chicago Bears, and the best tactic to win the
game against Chicago Bears today would be to call some
more runs, because your guy, when it came to passing
(37:12):
the ball was all over the bleeping map. Even on
basically like out routes to Justin Jefferson, there was one
pass that he could have been Shaquille O'Neill with Kevin
Garnett on his shoulders and that ball still would have
gone over both their heads. JJ McCarthy is not very
good at football right now relative to the NFL, and
(37:33):
what Kevin O'Connell is asking him to do is something
that he can't do, and that's carry the team from
a passing standpoint. Caleb Williams can be very hit or
missed with that. You know what Ben Johnson did earlier
this season, like, hey, Kleb, I'm not gonna ask you
to do what they were asking you to do last
year and throw the ball forty fifty times a game.
(37:54):
We are going to run the ball, and when all
use fails, I'm gonna call another run. Now you're gonna
have to make some plays. And Caleb is scrambling around
like it's pretty incredible to watch. He is tossing guys,
he is breaking tackles like he's Ben Roethlisberger Cam Newton,
but google how big those guys work. Caleb's like six',
(38:15):
one but his, STRENGTH i, mean we talk about how he's.
Built guys can't sack him right. NOW i, MEAN i,
mean you better get two guys on him if you
want to bring him, down because if it's one, guy
he's shaking him off and he's scrambling. Away Like Caleb
williams looks Like Ben roethlisberger compared TO jj. McCarthy but
TODAY i saw one guy who knew his team strengths and,
(38:37):
weaknesses who knew his player strengths and, weaknesses and was
desperately trying to win a. Game AND i saw another
guy who just calls plays like he always calls. Plays
i'm calling. Passes that's WHAT i. DO i call. Passes, hey, Hey,
kevin you're averaging over five yards of carry here in
the first. HALF i don't. Care we're passing the. Rock,
well you're not gonna win that. Way and then it's, like,
(38:57):
WELL jj had the final drive for a. Touchdown that's,
great but what about the rest of the. Game it
was remarkable that The vikings were even in that. Game
it honestly speaks To Brian flores who's done a hell
of a, job and their defense was playing their ass off.
Today but Holy, molly now. Listen obviously they had some.
(39:18):
Drops addison had a, Couple hawkinson had one bad one
also made some. Plays jefferson had a bad. DROP i
think at one point in time in the game they
had five or. Six so they had some. Drops but
last week The bears had some. Drops it's, Football you're
gonna have some. Drops it's just the relentless nature of
calling the. Passes to, me it felt like insanity watching.
(39:38):
It and, Listen i'm a guy who's my time in
THE nfl was Around Andy reid like calling pass places,
too but sometimes you need to settle your player. Down
and the only way to settle the quarterback down just
to call a. Handoff just let everyone take a deep.
Breath and he. Tried he would do it a couple of.
Times he'd be, like fuck, This jordan J, justin run
(40:01):
a deep, comeback run a post. Route it's, like, bro
this is not going to. Work SO i thought, today,
listen everyone is going to take a giant dump ON
jj McCarthy in his career and. Listen some of it's definitely,
fair but the. Coach, now we saw it last year
With Sam darnold in some of the big. Games you're
seeing it this. Year he cannot pivot off his pass
(40:22):
place and he just doesn't want, it and he's shown
like he won't like it's not even that he just
he refuses to and when all us, fails he's just
going to call pass. PLAY a couple things before we
get out of. HERE i spent a lot of time
On saturday with my dog on the, couch just ordering door,
dash slamming, gatorades finishing at ten of, zones and just watching.
(40:48):
Football watched a lot of, football AND i had two big.
Takeaways this is a couch scouting. Me no longer a
guy banging all twenty, two just just watching games like
most fans on A saturday. Afternoon Jeremiah, love the running
back For Notre, dame is an elite running back. Prospect,
now we saw last Year Ashton genty get drafted six.
(41:11):
Overall you knew WHERE i. STAND i thought it was
kind of. Crazy not THAT i didn't like the, player
BUT i didn't think. One it's LIKE i understand the.
Draft you can only take the players in that given.
Class i'm just LIKE i struggle taking this running back
BECAUSE i didn't put them in the category of like
the last seven eight, years there were three or four
(41:31):
guys that were just elite, Prospects Saquon, Barkley christian, McCaffrey Bjohn.
Robinson Obviously saquan was. TWO i think those other two
guys were both. EIGHT i would Put Jeremiah love directly
in those. Guys you could Put gibbs in those guys
category as. Well, right they traded back from six to
twelve and took them at, twelve and Even Brad holmes,
said if we couldn't have made the, trade we would
(41:53):
have taken him at, six and if they had taken
him at, six no one would be. Complaining SO i
would Put gibbs in the kind of that. World love
is just. ELITE i, mean he's the total, package AND
i think if this was nineteen ninety, eight he would
be in the mix to be the number one overall.
Pick if Action gent can go six overall in a,
draft this guy could go like negative. Five he's to,
(42:16):
me he's in a different class than. Genty SO i
just think this, guy he's the total. Package and that's
What bijon, was you, know sa Kuon. Is his hands
can be a little hit or, miss but he's such
a good back and speed with so. Elites, obviously McCaffrey
just does everything so. Well he's basically like the white
(42:39):
version Of marshall falk Or Ladanian thomlinson And gibbs is
like this, explosive explosive version OF i don't even. Know
he's like his own unique. Player BUT i Think Jeremiah
love is just just a, special special. Talent And i've
watched a lot of college. Football to, me he's he's
as good as. Anyone you know this plane, Right i'd
(43:00):
put him In Jeremiah. Smith it's the best two offensive.
Players and speaking of offensive, PLAYERS i understand why we do,
this And i'm guilty of this, too of, like, hey
these are the top. Quarterbacks these are top, quarterbacks and
guys have a good stretch and you played a big.
Program we talk about. You But i've seen a lot
of like mock drafts and just people, like, hey Could
(43:21):
Tys simpson The alabama quarterback go to The, jets go
to The Cleveland, browns go to one of these quarterback
desperate teams and help change the course of their. Franchise
and my response after watching him the last couple of,
weeks the second half last week AGAINST, lsu they started
hitting him and he looked. Terrible In oklahoma yesterday in
(43:42):
the second half With Brett venables absolutely worked. Him And
i'm not trying to shit on, It Ty. SIMPSON i
think he's played, really really well And i'm really impressed
because my expectations after the first couple of weeks were
not very. High but he's done. Well but his Store
berkeley him like that specific player WENT i don't, know,
(44:05):
fourth fifth, round and now we talk because the quarterback.
Inflation these guys going in the first, round it's. INSANE i,
mean once upon a time guys Like Kirk cousins And
Dak prescott went in the third and fourth. Round Dak
prescott Had Mississippi. State people forget, this at one point in,
(44:26):
time they were competing to be the number one team
in the country his senior. Year cousins had Like Michigan
state have the greatest stretch of program history with. D'Antonio
but those, guys no one's, like, oh that guy should
go like a pick. Six no one talked like. That
AND i Think Ty simpson because everyone's like, oh we
(44:47):
need a. Quarterback we need a. Quarterback, yeah in the fourth,
round he'd be, fine and maybe he could be a,
starter maybe be a, backup who. Knows but first, round top,
five are you guys on crack? Cocaine SO i think
we need to be, very very careful because watching these quarterbacks,
over you, know as they start playing conference play and better,
players especially THE sec. Guys you, know you See Lenora,
(45:10):
sellers you saw this With garrettnssmeyer earlier in the. Season
it's like they start get exposed and none of these
guys are changing your. Franchise none of them, are and
definitely none of them are worth a top, five top ten.
Pick some of them should go back to, school some
of them should just. Stay some of them jump off the.
Bait it's Like Jeremiah, smith we should have a rule
(45:31):
once a year you should apply and like THE gm should, vote, like,
hey DO i need to come back for my junior
year or CAN i just go? Pro it could have
happened with Like parsons And Jamar chase and Pane sewel
that one year with THE vid year when they all opted.
Out but like every once in a, while you get
a guy that's like a true. Sophomore it's, like, yeah
there's no point in him. Staying AND i don't want
(45:51):
like these guys to be able to come out to
THE nfl, whenever BECAUSE i do think in football physical
league boys developing like it makes. Sense But Jeremiah love
like OR i, Mean Jeremiah smith doesn't need to. STAY
i like THE gms just be like give an, exception he's.
Cool BUT i just think you Watch Ty simpson and you,
(46:13):
GO i JUST i don't see. IT i don't see
it at. ALL i don't see it with any of
these quarterbacks beside maybe the kid In. Indiana Dante moore's
pretty damn. Good obviously has a big game this, week
an'st Usc AND i also think you're gonna see all
these guys are gonna be in the, playoffs and we'll
see when they play the best teams and the best.
(46:33):
Defenses and this is where you got to be very.
Careful like there's no hype in THE, nfl Right like
Bow knicks was shitty last, week he was good. Today
there's no. Height you either good or you're bad right
on a weekly bas LIKE jj McCarthy had a good
fourth quarter once against The. Bears ever, since it's been.
Terrible just like objective, takes we're in college because they're,
young guys. Improve there's just, like, hey this what this
(46:56):
guy can. Be this guy can improve a. Lot it's, like,
Okay arch is kind of gaining some, momentum and then
he Plays. Georgia it's, like, well he was actually pretty
good early. On he's definitely. Improved AND i was An
arch critic just because ever the hype On arch was so.
OUTRAGEOUS i felt LIKE i had to fan the flames
a little. BIT i had to grab my hose and put,
out you, know kind of the just the growing momentum
(47:21):
of like this guy's gonna be the number one overall,
pick win The, heisman and be the greatest player we've ever.
Seen it's, like, guys he's never even started against a real, opponent,
right this wasn't like In, june and now it's, like,
okay we just we got a little time and who,
knows you, Know, arch you give him another, offseason maybe
he can. IMPROVE i would kind of bet against, it but,
(47:41):
Listen i'd never bet against like a nineteen or twenty year.
Old it's gonna happen all the, time and it's gonna
happen to a lot of guys you've never heard of
right backups that are gonna become starters and then go
to THE. Nfl but the guys that are playing right,
NOW i, think If i'm A browns, fan If i'm
A jets, fan do not look for one of these
guys to Be Peyton manning Or Andrew luck Or Joe
(48:04):
burrow and just flip your franchise, overnight Because i'll promise
you it's just not gonna happen in this. Class BEFORE
i get out of, here, actually let me let me
switch up and reverse. It Hard rock bet my Friends
Monday Night, football which is just are they messing with?
Us we got The cowboys at The. RAIDERS i put
(48:26):
together a little. PARLAY i feel like everyone's gonna take
The cowboys in this, game which makes. SENSE i, mean
The raiders are Terrible Monday Night. Football as the year goes,
on it does feel like you're gonna get some. UPSETS
a couple of years, AGO i think it was The
giants against The. Eagles we've just had weird games late
in the. Season you just never. Know i'm taking The
raiders plus. Three i'm Taking Ashton genty wouldn't shock me
(48:48):
If Aston genty has a big game. Tomorrow cowboys defense
thinks though they have added a couple of defensive lignment
And Ceedee. Lamb both those two guys anytime touchdowns pay
six to. One So i'm taking the eight ors plus.
Three i'm Taking genty And i'm Taking Ceedee. Lamb Hard rock,
bet little little three lagger there this time, official have
a good. One see you the VOLUME m
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