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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live
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on Major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame
voter number seventy Rob Parker.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Welcome into another edition of Inside the Parker, the World
Series Edition, the final weekly podcast for the baseball season.
Of course we'll start in November with a monthly podcast
in the offseason, but of course we will talk about
the World Series and the Dodgers winning their second World
Series since twenty twenty and the demise of the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Will do that and much more.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Let's go better up to lead off, it's getting.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Robbed to keep them on. Rob's hot take.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
On the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one, of.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Course, the big already is about Yankees manager Aaron Boone,
and reports are already coming out of New York that
he is expected to return for the twenty twenty five season.
I think if you're the Yankees, you can't allow what
just happened come and go and not think that there
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has to be changes.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I just I know you got to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I know you had the best record in the American League,
but the performance was bad.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And it's not just Aaron Boone.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Brian Cashman has been the general manager for over twenty
five years.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
In New York.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's a long time, and they just had a long
fifteen year drought before they got back to the World Series.
And you just wonder if you know, some new blood,
some fresh blood would make sense in that situation. And
obviously the players didn't do what they were supposed to
do in making errors, but you're still there were moves
and moments based running mistakes, stuff like that's a reflection
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of the map. When guys don't do what they're supposed
to and you run yourself out of innings, you make
bad plays things like that. I just think he's had
a nice run there. They got to the World Series.
But I just think it's time for a change in
the Bronx.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I really do. Number two.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Of course, the other talk in the Bronx centers around
Juan Soto, who will be the most sought after free
agent in a long time. We know Otani was the
most coveted free agent, but there were only a handful
of teams that really had a chance at him. Where
I think the net for Juan Soto is way bigger.
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It might be six or eight teams with money willing
to take on a guy of that age who's only
twenty five or six and put up an unbelievable season
in the Bronx. He was the last player to leave
the Yankee dugout last night after they were eliminated in
five games in the twenty twenty four World Series, and
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he was asked, point blank, do the Yankees have like
an advantage over the other teams? As he enters free agency.
Scott Boris is his agent. We know Scott Boris wants
top dollar. This is a guy who turned down four
hundred and forty million dollars guaranteed. There's no way he's
going to take some hometown discount to stay with the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So it's going to take top dollar.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And you know, he came out Soto and just said
all the teams are in the same position. Nobody has
an advantage. So that speaks volumes and it makes sense.
Even though I think the Bronx is a great place
for him. The fans embraced him. He played well in
New York in that environment, not a lot of players
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can do it. There's a lot of stuff to Like,
you're playing for a Marquees franchise, do you want to
go to Detroit where they have nothing but money to spend?
They only have twenty million dollars on the books for
next season, so they could offer him seventy million or
sixty five million a year and still their payroll would
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only be eighty five million. And then you fill in
the rest of the players, so they still could be
under budget and pick up a player like that because
they don't have anybody making big money. But is that
where you want to go? The advantage he has is
quite obvious. He's already won a World Series in twenty
nineteen with the Washington Nationals, so he's not chasing a championship.
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He has that already in his back pocket. He can
just play to make money now, and he's gonna make
a lot of it. I was totally wrong when he
turned down that four hundred and forty million dollars in Washington,
Like I never thought he would see another payday like that.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
He went to San Diego. He didn't play that well.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
He made an All Star team one of the two
years he was there, but he wasn't the same player,
and he came alive in the Bronx, had big moments
in the postseason, great regular season career high over forty
home runs. I mean, he did a lot of stuff
that you like, this will be interesting. And then don't
forget he might not have to leave New York. He
could just go to Queen's and play for the met
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Steve Coin, one of the richest owners in sports, has
a lot of money, and what a coup that would
be for his team that you know, made it to
the NLCS against the Dodgers and then they pick up
soda in the offseason, their fan base would go crazy.
Number three, last, but not least, Baseball is back baby
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in a big way.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
This World Series was incredible.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Numbers wise averaged over fourteen to fifteen million. In fact,
Baseball beat out Monday Night Football Game three in New York.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Incredible that ain't happened in a long time.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Of course, the Dodgers and Yankees make it possible too,
of the biggest markets and teams and superstars and Judge
and Otani and Soto and Bets and all the big names.
But the sad part is that the series only lasted five.
If this could have got to six or seven, the
numbers would have been even bigger. And one note, not
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only did baseball beat Monday Night Football this past Monday,
but also they averaged more as far as total numbers
than any NBA finals in the last five or six years.
I mean, that's another enormous It tells you how big
these numbers were, how excited people were. And we didn't
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get the numbers from Game five, but when the score
was tied five to five, after the Dodgers trailed five nothing,
I'm sure a lot of people tuned in who maybe
didn't know what was going on to see the conclusion
of that. So I think the numbers for Game five
will be through the roof too when they finally come out.
It was a banner series for Major League Baseball and Rifley.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
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Speaker 3 (09:07):
Now let's welcome in JR.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Gamble of course mlbbro dot Com Managing editor. Of course,
he has a segment on this podcast every week, Foul
or Fair. And he was in New York at Yankee
Stadium covering the World Series Jail.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Welcome to the podcast, my.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Man, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Like you said earlier, I'm doing better than the Yankees
are doing.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
No doubt. I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
At the first when they got off to the five
nothing judges, the two run home run Jazz Chisholm, I mean,
the stadium had to be buzzing, Oh my god, because
they came alive in game for eleven or four victory,
and then they jump out on Jack Flaherty from jump Street.
What was the mood of the crowd, What was that
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all about?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
The start the game?
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, definitely getting to Flowerty that basically dominated them in
Game one, going seven inning strong against them. So you know,
it was sixty seven degrees at game time. It was beautiful.
The weather was beautiful. People in New.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
York in October, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah, you can't beat that in New York City. People
were excited. They're still optimistic because you know, they packed
in and they thought, you know, it's not over till
it's over. They saw it happened to the Yankees back
in the days, so why couldn't the Yankees come back?
It went for but you know that that ending, It
started off so great. Judge finally gets going, Stanton finally
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gets going an eighteenth postseason home run of his career,
his seven as a Yankee. That's a record, So he's
solidifying a Hall fan career with four hundred and thirty bombs.
This postseason did a lot for If anybody was helped
in this postseason as a Yankee player, there weren't many
of them. It was Giencarlo Stanton, the crowd plumber did
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doing that five run in the five let's stop there.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm calling it, uh, the fatal fifth, which will be
the most dubious moment in Yankee history.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
I really believe that.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And this is a story franchise with a long with
a you know, with with a long resume, Yeah, of
doing great things and all the championship and doing it right.
But this couldn't have been more wrong. And if you
watch the video, I want you to take.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Us through it. The fatal fifth is what I'm calling it.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But when Judge took his eye off the ball for
a millisecond, if you watch the video, he does, he's
looking at the runner at first or which is shocking,
and he misses the easiest fly ball I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I have another take on that, Okay, tell me, Okay.
So I was going back and forth between the press room,
you know, and then outside actually watch the game, and
I'll tweeting. And I said to a guy next to
me from another publication, was at Latin publication that when
Judge went an inning earlier before he dropped that ball,
remember when he went to the wall and made that
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catch and banged his wrist the glove wrist yep, that
was a risky engine before and I and I said
to myself it might not have meant anything, but I said, man,
I wonder if the risk is okay, The risk is okay,
and then yeah, bad he took it was it wasn't productive.
And then when he came out missed that ball. It
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probably has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But well he did double in the ninth though, didn't
he for the eighth?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Yeah? Yeah, but but I don't think it was after that.
That was prior to banging the risk. I'm trying to
remember what ending he banged.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I remember the play because he wound up in
the what was it the eighth the eighth inn and
he get he doubled with one out, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
They had a mentals second.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't know, but you know those type of those
type of injuries. Well, if it hurts, it can as
the game goes on, it can get worse and worse.
I'm trying to give him an out.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, no, no, I get it, because he's not a
bad outfit.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
He's not a bad outfielder. I watch him play center
field all the time. You watch him, He's not a
bad outfielder. And the other thing too, was.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I think that was the first era of the season.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, it could be. I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
But the other one, though, was Vopee with the bad
throw the Chisholm at third, like he panicked and made
a bad throw. And then, of course the worst one
of all is how in the world And it's both
both made a mistake. First of all, Uh, you know,
as a pitcher, you gotta cover first. You can never
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assume anything. You gotta run the first base. But how
does Rizzon not charge that slow? I mean that ball
hit to him with Mookie Bets running.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Now, I'll say two things. The vote, the vote situation. Yes,
that was a bad play, but and you know it's
a baseball rule. If you're gonna go to third and
not the first, you gotta get him at third. So
I don't think that was a good decision. It was
too bang bang, And then he didn't have the angle
to make a good throw, and he didn't make a
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good throw under pressure in a pressure situation. A way,
I'm built for it, some aren't. As far as first base.
What I'm hearing is that and I have to go
back now and look because I heard this Jared Cole
does not usually run the first base on those types
of plays to cover the bad Okay, if he hasn't
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been doing it, I'm persons on New York Grade to
which they're saying, in those type of situations where the
balls hit deep, but the first base that can't get
the first if he charges the ball and runs the
egregious party in that play, Rob's Rizzo.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
No, no, I I agree with you, know Mookie.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
When I I said to my I said to myself,
come on, Garrett Cole just had a masterpiece.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Okay, he strikes.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Out, lucks right, he throug out the night he struck
out to think, two guys in a row, including old Tani,
we may look bad. And he gets Mookie bets with
the basic load and the clutch situation to hit a
weak ground ball to first. I'm like, I couldn't even
believe it. And then when I see uh Rizzo not
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dodge the ball. You should be running towards the ball.
As you run towards first, there's no what are you
waiting for?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I don't and if you don't see the picture coming over,
like these are things you've done your whole life, right,
It's not like you have to just look at the
ball and nothing else. You check to see if the
picture is coming, you're getting the ball. These are things
your ball. You're trained for a thriftial vision. If you
don't see, you gotta hurry up.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
But you need to be running towards that ball anyway.
It just doesn't make sense, all right. So the fatal fifth,
that was it? Five on eurned runs. I'm not going
to uh. I just don't think that you can hang
that on your picture and blame Garrett Cole when when
they just, you know, the team just five on earned runs.
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The Dodgers win the World Series on two sacrifice flies.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Let's just call it what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
They have two earned runs Anthony, two sacrifice flies.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
All right.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Our guess is Jared Gamble, of course, the managing editor
of mlbbro dot com, of course, the contributor here on
uh inside the Parker with his foul or fair segment,
as he has done for the past four years or so.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
How's it been four more than that?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think it's been four. The World Series. The ratings
were great, by the way, but it definitely wasn't the
product that people will want to deceit. They wanted to
deceive they did.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I agree, but you know what, I think that we
are losing a little bit of a little bit of
contexts because the first two games ended with the bases loaded, right,
That's what I'm saying, Like Freddie Freeman got the Grand
Slam and then Trevino flied out with two outs and
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the bases loaded, you know, on a four to two game.
Like the scores weren't outrageous, but it didn't feel like
I agree with you. Didn't feel like the Yankees were
in it, even though they were the last two at
bats in Game one and two. They lose Game three
four to two. They didn't get blown out nine to nothing,
they lose four to two, but they just didn't feel
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like like they had anything or they could get any clutch.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Hits, right, and when you go down three to zero, yeah,
the war show. So let's just be honest. The Yankees
thought they didn't lay down. They at least they got
the game that hole. But Jazz, I believe hit below
two hundred. Everyone No one hit for the Yankees except
Stanton and you can't survive on you know, he's a
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he's a feast of famine type of hitter. So you
can't survive on bombs all the time at this part
of the year, and as far as fans go, you
can't rely on your superstars to be hot for those
seven games, that those eleven games that it takes to
get to do the Championship serieson In the World Series,
we've seen throughout history great great players who were carried
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by the Tommy Evans and the Max month Seeds.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Uh, even though even though Max Munsey didn't get any hits.
But I know what you did in the bottom of
the order is what killed them. They got walks, they
got these blop singles like those are the out you
need to get And I agree, like those are the
guys you gotta worry about. Edmunds was it was had
eleven rbrs against the Mets like like and was the
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NLCS MVP and and the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
If I would have told you before the series that
show he.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Would be two U two for eighteen or whatever he
was and not driving and what he drove in one run,
maybe that that that they would lose the World Series
in five games.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You wouldn't believe it, Like he was a no show.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Well, I don't think he was a no show. Again,
maybe that's me giving him an out. I think the
separated shoulder, I mean he was Winston every single time
he swung the back.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
No, that's true after that, but even the first two
games he didn't do anything.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Yeah, he had a very slow start, but I don't
think it helped him for him to recover.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You know, no, I agree with that. I didn't think
he should have played.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
The game impactful in this series, and so I don't
think this game was decided by the superstars. I think
it was good for baseball because it was decided by
the better baseball team.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
How about let's just go Dave Roberts gets his second
World Series. You know, there's a lot of question marks
about Dave Roberts. The Dodgers have had a lot of stumbles,
but even before the last two years, they got knocked
out in.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
The first round, which a lot of people go down
on him.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
No, no, no, I'm just saying, but now he's won
a World Series the second round. I think that that
helps his his legacy in his career now to finally
escape that because I think had they lost, or if
they had lost to the Projects, there's no doubt he
would not have been the manager, because that would have
been three years in a row. But now he has
a second World Series. That's something to be proud of
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in a legacy.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, second black manager, second MLB bro of Ncito Gaston
went back to back with the Toronto Blue Jays back
in ninety two, ninety three. He has his second ring
Dave Roberts. So I guess now the conversation can definitely stop.
He'll be in LA as long as I guess they
want him there because world series are hard to win,
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and if a guy's career or job security is based
on the fact that he can win a World Series,
who I mean, I don't know I would survived that.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It used to be like that, but they would want
to dusty out as soon as they won. I'm just
saying it did as soon as he won her like okay, good,
all right, thank you, all right?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know, like it used to be like that, Like
Frank Vogel with the Lakers. He won a championship.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
A year and a half later, he they don't want him,
you know, like things have changed.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
It used to buy you time.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I agree with you, and I think Dave Roberts has
with that team and that power, I think he's got
another four or five years.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I do minimum minimum.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
I don't. I don't know if they win in those years.
Like he really needed this one, like right, really badly,
no doubt. I'm glad he got it, though, because a
guy that, come on, Robert, guy that averages what ninety
seven ninety wins a season, You can you can tell
me all about the stack teams and all the money spent.
That money thing only worked this year. I remember the
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past five six years when they Yankees was not getting
in and the Dodgers were not getting in, people were saying, oh, yeah,
that's what see, you got to build. You got to
build from the farm system. You got to take a
couple of years. Now, all of a sudden they get
lucky and the two highs payrolls make it. And that
was a problem. Again, that's why I don't really study. Now.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I'm with you on that. I think that people make
too much of it. And you're right. The last fifteen
years told you all you need to know.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And last year Arizona and Texas Rangers were in the
World Series. So it's not just financial. The Phillies look
at the money they've spent, they haven't won anything.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I mean it doesn't matter. All right, Let's go right here.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Last thing, where do you expect Juan Soto to wind up?
I've already admitted that I thought I made a mistake.
I never thought he would get another four hundred and
forty million plus contract. Me and Jim Bowden, matter of fact,
had debated that on this podcast, the former GM. He
was vince that the kid would get paid. You know,
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it might be looking at six hundred million from some teams.
Where do you think he's gonna wind up?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, I think we have to understand that it's really
what the market requires. Right. We can't compare his contract
to the one judge received last year or the one
someone received three four years ago, because we know, look
at how you said how robust baseball is with abuse
have been the raiders. That's money. These owners are bleeding
money now. Don't believe the hype anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
About baseball is alive and well and healthy.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
We're losing money, no the TV deals. More people are
watching baseball than probably in the last twenty years. More
black people are coming back to the game than ever now.
So Soto's gonna get at least six hundred million, But
how many suitors are really gonna pay him six hundred million.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'll give you, yeah, I'll give you.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I think the Mets, the Yankees, the San Francisco Giants.
They say that Toronto Blue Jays have money and the
dark course, which I don't think is gonna happen, but
they have money. The Detroit Tigers. Do you know the
Detroit Tigers payroll for next year? You know what their
payroll is? Twenty million is what they have on the books,
So they have an empty they have. So if they
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gave him sixty or sixty five million, that would make
their payroll eighty five you know what I mean? Like,
they still would be within budget if they wanted to
spend one hundred and fifty million or something like that,
or one hundred and twenty million.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
But that's up to him, right, because he wants He
might want the whole six hundred million, right like like no.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No, I mean that. Oh yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
But the Tigers, because all those big contracts came off
their books. Oh, they could put it, god it right, Yeah,
they have sixty million.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Of all the teams that you mentioned, I think he
would elevate the Tigers the most because they have some
great young talent. That is a team that has built
through the farm system.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
They got they got, they got an ace pitcher in school.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
They have several very good pictures even in the minor
leagues as well, and guys that can really throw. Losing
flowerty hurt. I think he has to be replaced. That's
that's a great one too. You have to have that
great one two to really be successful. But Sodo might
just go to the Mets. You know why, because the
Mets have the deepest pockets in MLB, they have the
richest owner, and he likes to make big splashes. He
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feels like he came close. And you know what, Rob,
you add one Sodo to the Mets next year, they
have to be the favorites to come out of if
they can add one more arm them in the and
a revitalized Braves team with all of their players. My
neck and neck, I think the Phillies fall fall next year.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
All right. He is JR. Gamble from mlbbro.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Dot com, the managing editor of course, contributor here on
Inside the Parker.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And have another and I know, unbelievable, another one in
the books. Here we go.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
It went so quick.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Thanks up, the luck Ron now bringing the closer. Here's
why MLB is better than the NFL or NBA, and
it isn't even close.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Reason number one and fifty nine why Major League Baseball
is better than the NBA and the NFL. It's just
the drama of the postseason. People talk about it all
the time. Baseball games are different in October than they
are during the regular season, where every pitch counts, every
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yet bad, You watch the game just differently. You know,
a ball outside that could have been strike three means
so much more. In the postseason, walks count more if
you make an error or a mistake. It's just the
drama is heightened. And we saw this in this five
game series. Despite the fact that the Dodgers won four
(26:57):
games to one, there was just so much drama. The
first two games ended with the bases loaded in the
last inning, and all these games came down to moments, situations,
and circumstances. It's just great drama and theater. Baseball remains that,
and I think that's the fabric of the game that
makes it different.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
From the other sports.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
The other sports have their moment, but I don't think
they have the drama that comes with a baseball game
when it comes to the postseason. In the words of
New York TV legend the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you
for your time this time until next time.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Rob Parker out d K Gavin. This could be an
inside the Parker.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
See you next week, same bat time, from same Matt's station.