March 23, 2023 • 19 mins
George Noory and Dr. Michael Salla discuss reports that the government may have recovered crashed alien spacecraft and are trying to reverse engineer the technology, and debate whether a galactic federation of alien races may be preparing to reveal themselves to mankind.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeart Radio and welcome back doctor Michael Salo with us
George Norri. Here. Doctor Salo is a pioneer in the
development of exopolitics. He was an assistant Professor Research in
Residence in the School of International Service at the American
University from nineteen ninety six to two thousand and four.
(00:21):
He has a PhD in Government from the University of Queensland, Australia.
He's also the founder of the Exopolitics Institute, and not
for profit organization that analyzes the political implications of extraterrestrial life.
And here he is back on Coast to Coast. Michael,
Welcome back, my friend. How are you? Thank you, Good
morning George. How many times has this been for you
(00:42):
on the program? Well, I think we actually had our
first interview in two thousand and three, so it's been
twenty years of this is Oh gosh, it's been that.
Time has flown. And yeah, I think we've we've met,
We've done interviews a couple of times a year, so
absolutely odd long times have you been what's now? Well,
(01:03):
definitely I've been monitoring what's going on in the kind
of x up political field, and it has been really
wild just how much the UFOL issue has now become
mainstream people questioning what they're all about, where they could
be from. I mean, the extraterrestrial explanation is now being
(01:26):
seriously considered, which is a big, big change from twenty
years ago, when anyone talking about UFO's extraterrestrial life in
academia or congress or the mainstream media was ridiculed. Now
it's like, well, that's it's taken much more seriously. Those
objects that we shot down a month or show ago,
after the Chinese balloon was shot down, they're not saying
(01:48):
too much about them anymore. How come. Yeah, Well, that really,
to me was a pivotal point in American history. I
think that's when a lot of people suddenly realized that
this UFO phenomenon is real. And it's very very interesting
(02:09):
how it was shaped, how the whole event was kind
of presented in the mainstream media as these UFOs. After
like the last couple of years, you know, we've had
these congressional meetings, We've had a number of media reports
about a new office to discussing UAPs and uots were
(02:31):
supposed to be the scientific term, more neutral term to
discuss the UFO phenomenon. But yet the mainstream media when
these objects were shot down were describing them as UFOs.
And that's very interesting that you know, that kind of
terminology came back. It was like someone wanted the public
(02:52):
to kind of consider UFOs as objects that you could
be a setrestrial in origin, and um, you know, you
have the mainstream media kind of like wrestling with that.
You know, someone some wanting to say, well, they could
be extraterrestrial, they could be Russian, they could be Chinese,
(03:14):
but we don't know what they are, and and I
think that's that's very significant. It was like there was
I think, I think what's behind them is that these
were craft that had been manufactured by some company, some corporation,
and you know, whether it was just being flight tested
(03:36):
or whether they were part of an operation, that's not clear,
but but definitely people were were given given these images
in the mainstream media that these could be a threat.
And that kind of played into the whole last couple
of years when the UAPs were being presented as this
(03:57):
national security threat. So you have to kind of put
two or two together there in question, Well, is someone
releasing these objects because they want the American public to
believe that there's this your Foe threat out there. And
while they're not going as far as saying that it's extraterrestrial,
they're still leaving that the origin question kind of open.
(04:18):
And I think it's the beginning of something major. They're
sure hushed it up pretty quickly, though, didn't they while
they they got people talking about it, And I think
it was really to test the reaction, how would people
react to it? And yeah, we had saturation media coverage.
(04:39):
Everyone was focused on it, and people's attention was diverted
away from other things like the war in Ukraine, which
is now starting to turn Seymour Hirsh's story about the
nord Stream pipeline. So it does seem that your Poe
(05:00):
issue was being used to kind of like distract people
from from other things that the deep state didn't want
the public to focus on. And yeah, right now, you know,
we're experiencing what could be a banking collapse and the
nord Stream and Ukraine big issues, So your your fos
(05:24):
are being played. And I think that's always been part
of the game plan that the UFO disclosure, the truth
about US wouldn't come about because all of a sudden
the deep State, you had a change of heart and
wanted to reveal the truth. I think they would have
released some of the information in a way that would
(05:47):
promote their agenda in other ways. So I think that's
probably what we're seeing with the whole shootdowns. And yeah,
I think much more is to come. What do we
know about Commander of Nora, General Glenn than Hrk. Well,
he's a really interesting figure. I mean, he has enormous
power as the four star US general in charge of
(06:12):
Northern Command and NOORAD and and both of those really
vital for controlling air space in the United States and
also being in charge of the United States in a
continuity of government emergency. And what that means is if
the US government was decapitated in some way through some
(06:36):
kind of attack or other kind of catastrophe, that the continuity,
the continuity of government would place General van Herk in
charge of running it all and getting everything in the
United States up to a point where it can functions
(06:59):
smooth lee making making sure that the people are in place,
and he would be the overall kind of military commander
for that. So he was pretty well unknown up until
these UFO shootdowns, because these shootdowns were as as best
as I have been able to find out. These were
the first time Nourad had shot down craft over North America,
(07:25):
over the United States and Canada. So so Nourad is
a a military cooperation between the United States and Canada
to protect the North American air space. And so Nourad
shooting down these these three UFOs and the and the
kind of big balloon that you know that I think
(07:48):
China did admit didn't say that it was theirs, but
not everyone agrees. But nevertheless, those of those four things
were shot down by Nourad, and that was the first
time Nourad had had operated. And General van Hurt all
of a sudden was elevated from being this kind of
(08:09):
mysterious figure or this unknown figure that was in charge
of NORAD and nor the command all of a sudden
he being interviewed and being kind of discussed in the
major media. So everyone got to learn about this General
van Hirk, which I found to be very very curious,
(08:30):
because you know, not everyone knows who the different commanders
are of America's eleven combatant command. You know, now, all
of a sudden people don't know about him. Now, tell
us about the Galactic Federation, Michael, Well, you know, the
Galactic Federation contacts have been talking about that for for many,
(08:54):
many years. And what change was that in December twenty
twenty he had that extraordinary interview with Professor han Eshed,
the founder of Israel's space program, and he's the guy
that actually was behind Israel sending up military satellite and
(09:18):
over a career of three decades he got to be
involved at the highest level of a military satellite technology
and got to work with the National Connaissance Office in
the United States. He says that during the latter part
(09:38):
of the Trump administration that the Galactic Federation was communicating
with Trump, and Trump wanted the Federation to reveal itself,
but the Federation said that the United States or our
planet wasn't ready yet, that we weren't at a level
(10:00):
of technological development which would allow the revelation of extraterrestrial
life without there being kind of like too much societal disruption.
So you know, he was the one that put the
Galactic Federation on the map. But what I thought was
really curious timing was that this General van Herk, he
(10:23):
was seen apparently with a representative of this Galactic Federation
receiving a disclosure plan, that the Galactic Federation is continuing
to kind of like operate behind the scenes at the
highest level of US government. Previously was with the Trump administration,
(10:44):
now it's working with this General van Herk And apparently
he was given a something like a thumb drive with
a lot of information on it concerning disclosure and that
happened just before or General van Hook was seen just
(11:05):
before this series of UFOs shootdowns at this continuity of
government facility called raven Rock Mountain Complex in Pennsylvania in
the Blue Ridge Mountains. That he was apparently seen there
meeting with this Collected Federation representative and that at this
(11:29):
base has a spaceport below it where this Collected Federation
representative spacecraft was part and and that you know, that's
very very interesting because raven Rock Mountain Complex has been
seen in the past with UFOs, that there have been
(11:52):
UFOs as sided and this is being documented by mouf on.
So all of this kind of like very suggestive something
concerning UFO disclosure involving the Neglectic Federation and miss General
van Hirk connected and that this is some way was
also related to the UFO shootdown. So you know, something
(12:16):
almost seems to be like the opening act of something
much bigger that's coming down the pipeline. And is a
professor from Harvard University are lob Do you know him?
I know of him. I haven't met him, but he
he is. He's been on the map for for the
last few years in terms of this interstellar object or Muama,
(12:41):
which today they said was just a natural object. They
came out and said that today. Well, I think a
lot of astronomers have been saying that from the beginning.
But Professor Loeb, unless he's changed his position, he's been
saying from the beginning that he believes this was an
(13:03):
artificial object. That he looked at the way it exhilarated
as it was passing through our solar system and its
shape and other characteristics to come up with the idea
that this is an interstellar object. And I think he's
still saying that too. He hasn't changed. Oh good, good, Yeah,
(13:24):
that's that's what I thought. And so, yeah, he believes
it's an artificial object. And and it's very interesting that
this is a Hawaiian word for kind of like advanced
scout craft, some sort of object coming in advance to
kind of like a surveyed the territory, Yes, exactly. And
(13:48):
he Professor Lobe just the last couple of weeks wrote
a joint paper with doctor Sean Kirkpatrick, who's the head
of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, that's the office
that was just created last year to provide reports to
(14:09):
the US Congress on UFOs or UAPs as as they're
still called an officialdom. And they wrote about the possibility
that these UFOs or what is being seen by many
scientific instruments actually maybe motherships. And that that really got
(14:32):
my attention because like, well, this is the first time
you've you've got well, you've got a senior officials Sean
ka Patrick that runs the ARROW Office, which is located
in the Pentagon, and you've got Professor R. V. Loeb,
who is the former Chief Astronomer or head of the
Astronomy department at Harvard University. He now heads the Galilee
(14:54):
or project. They're openly speculating that some UFOs may be
motherships and or releasing little ones right that, yeah, that
these little objects that are being cited, some of them
might be probes actually derive or originate from motherships that
have arrived in our solar system. So to me, this
(15:17):
is this is really groundbreaking because this is the first
time you've actually had public officials speculating about extras motherships
in our solar system. And this is and that kind
of matches what I've been told by my sources, various
sources saying that since early two twenty one, a number
(15:44):
of extraterrestrial motherships have arrived in our solar system and
they're here to oversee a major transition in planetary affairs
on Earth. There's your congressman out of Tennessee, Tim Burchette,
who has apparently gone on records talking about recovered alien
spacecraft and bodies. What do we know about this? Well,
(16:07):
you know that I thought that was a really interesting development.
I mean that he is going on the record saying
that there are these recovered space path and bodies, and
you know, whether openly steculates, whether these are being reverse engineered,
and what he's talking about here is a briefing, an
(16:30):
informal briefing given to the US of Congress by a
doctor Eric Davis around twenty nineteen when he traveled to
Congress and people were very interested in the tic TAC
sightings and they wanted to get more information. And so
(16:50):
this Eric Davis, who has been working at the kind
of cutting edge of future technology. Eric Davis was asked
to give a briefing, a kind of informal briefing, because
I don't think he held or his holds an official
government position at the moment, but is involved in some
(17:14):
major scientific think tanks looking at future technologies. And so
he went in and he talked about an incident that
he was told about by a former three star general,
(17:34):
General Thomas Wolfson, who he met with in two thousand
and two, and they had a discussion about a major
US corporation, probably Luckeed Martin. I mean, that wasn't admitted,
but it's very luckily either Luckeed or Dawthrop Grumman exactly
(17:59):
having a captured extraterrestrial spacecraft and that it is studying
it and trying to reverse engineer it. Well, we've always
heard rumors that we had these things, didn't we Well,
that's right, of course. Of the most famous, of course,
is the ninety forty seven Roosevelt crash. I mean, there
(18:19):
have been many, many, very credible people coming forward. Researchers
chronically the whistable old testimonies of hundreds of people talking
about the Roosevelt craft, and of course that's always been speculation,
but that you had this incident where this scientist meets
(18:42):
with a former three star general who headed the Defense
Intelligence Agency and wanted to learn more about this craft.
Apparently even the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency didn't
know what was happening in the secure vaults of this
court operation that had its hands on a captured extraterrestrial spacecraft.
(19:06):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to Coast
am dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeart Radio and welcome back doctor Michael Salo with us
George Norri. Here. Doctor Salo is a pioneer in the
development of exopolitics. He was an assistant Professor Research in
Residence in the School of International Service at the American
University from nineteen ninety six to two thousand and four.
(00:21):
He has a PhD in Government from the University of Queensland, Australia.
He's also the founder of the Exopolitics Institute, and not
for profit organization that analyzes the political implications of extraterrestrial life.
And here he is back on Coast to Coast. Michael,
Welcome back, my friend. How are you? Thank you, Good
morning George. How many times has this been for you
(00:42):
on the program? Well, I think we actually had our
first interview in two thousand and three, so it's been
twenty years of this is Oh gosh, it's been that.
Time has flown. And yeah, I think we've we've met,
We've done interviews a couple of times a year, so
absolutely odd long times have you been what's now? Well,
(01:03):
definitely I've been monitoring what's going on in the kind
of x up political field, and it has been really
wild just how much the UFOL issue has now become
mainstream people questioning what they're all about, where they could
be from. I mean, the extraterrestrial explanation is now being
(01:26):
seriously considered, which is a big, big change from twenty
years ago, when anyone talking about UFO's extraterrestrial life in
academia or congress or the mainstream media was ridiculed. Now
it's like, well, that's it's taken much more seriously. Those
objects that we shot down a month or show ago,
after the Chinese balloon was shot down, they're not saying
(01:48):
too much about them anymore. How come. Yeah, Well, that really,
to me was a pivotal point in American history. I
think that's when a lot of people suddenly realized that
this UFO phenomenon is real. And it's very very interesting
(02:09):
how it was shaped, how the whole event was kind
of presented in the mainstream media as these UFOs. After
like the last couple of years, you know, we've had
these congressional meetings, We've had a number of media reports
about a new office to discussing UAPs and uots were
(02:31):
supposed to be the scientific term, more neutral term to
discuss the UFO phenomenon. But yet the mainstream media when
these objects were shot down were describing them as UFOs.
And that's very interesting that you know, that kind of
terminology came back. It was like someone wanted the public
(02:52):
to kind of consider UFOs as objects that you could
be a setrestrial in origin, and um, you know, you
have the mainstream media kind of like wrestling with that.
You know, someone some wanting to say, well, they could
be extraterrestrial, they could be Russian, they could be Chinese,
(03:14):
but we don't know what they are, and and I
think that's that's very significant. It was like there was
I think, I think what's behind them is that these
were craft that had been manufactured by some company, some corporation,
and you know, whether it was just being flight tested
(03:36):
or whether they were part of an operation, that's not clear,
but but definitely people were were given given these images
in the mainstream media that these could be a threat.
And that kind of played into the whole last couple
of years when the UAPs were being presented as this
(03:57):
national security threat. So you have to kind of put
two or two together there in question, Well, is someone
releasing these objects because they want the American public to
believe that there's this your Foe threat out there. And
while they're not going as far as saying that it's extraterrestrial,
they're still leaving that the origin question kind of open.
(04:18):
And I think it's the beginning of something major. They're
sure hushed it up pretty quickly, though, didn't they while
they they got people talking about it, And I think
it was really to test the reaction, how would people
react to it? And yeah, we had saturation media coverage.
(04:39):
Everyone was focused on it, and people's attention was diverted
away from other things like the war in Ukraine, which
is now starting to turn Seymour Hirsh's story about the
nord Stream pipeline. So it does seem that your Poe
(05:00):
issue was being used to kind of like distract people
from from other things that the deep state didn't want
the public to focus on. And yeah, right now, you know,
we're experiencing what could be a banking collapse and the
nord Stream and Ukraine big issues, So your your fos
(05:24):
are being played. And I think that's always been part
of the game plan that the UFO disclosure, the truth
about US wouldn't come about because all of a sudden
the deep State, you had a change of heart and
wanted to reveal the truth. I think they would have
released some of the information in a way that would
(05:47):
promote their agenda in other ways. So I think that's
probably what we're seeing with the whole shootdowns. And yeah,
I think much more is to come. What do we
know about Commander of Nora, General Glenn than Hrk. Well,
he's a really interesting figure. I mean, he has enormous
power as the four star US general in charge of
(06:12):
Northern Command and NOORAD and and both of those really
vital for controlling air space in the United States and
also being in charge of the United States in a
continuity of government emergency. And what that means is if
the US government was decapitated in some way through some
(06:36):
kind of attack or other kind of catastrophe, that the continuity,
the continuity of government would place General van Herk in
charge of running it all and getting everything in the
United States up to a point where it can functions
(06:59):
smooth lee making making sure that the people are in place,
and he would be the overall kind of military commander
for that. So he was pretty well unknown up until
these UFO shootdowns, because these shootdowns were as as best
as I have been able to find out. These were
the first time Nourad had shot down craft over North America,
(07:25):
over the United States and Canada. So so Nourad is
a a military cooperation between the United States and Canada
to protect the North American air space. And so Nourad
shooting down these these three UFOs and the and the
kind of big balloon that you know that I think
(07:48):
China did admit didn't say that it was theirs, but
not everyone agrees. But nevertheless, those of those four things
were shot down by Nourad, and that was the first
time Nourad had had operated. And General van Hurt all
of a sudden was elevated from being this kind of
(08:09):
mysterious figure or this unknown figure that was in charge
of NORAD and nor the command all of a sudden
he being interviewed and being kind of discussed in the
major media. So everyone got to learn about this General
van Hirk, which I found to be very very curious,
(08:30):
because you know, not everyone knows who the different commanders
are of America's eleven combatant command. You know, now, all
of a sudden people don't know about him. Now, tell
us about the Galactic Federation, Michael, Well, you know, the
Galactic Federation contacts have been talking about that for for many,
(08:54):
many years. And what change was that in December twenty
twenty he had that extraordinary interview with Professor han Eshed,
the founder of Israel's space program, and he's the guy
that actually was behind Israel sending up military satellite and
(09:18):
over a career of three decades he got to be
involved at the highest level of a military satellite technology
and got to work with the National Connaissance Office in
the United States. He says that during the latter part
(09:38):
of the Trump administration that the Galactic Federation was communicating
with Trump, and Trump wanted the Federation to reveal itself,
but the Federation said that the United States or our
planet wasn't ready yet, that we weren't at a level
(10:00):
of technological development which would allow the revelation of extraterrestrial
life without there being kind of like too much societal disruption.
So you know, he was the one that put the
Galactic Federation on the map. But what I thought was
really curious timing was that this General van Herk, he
(10:23):
was seen apparently with a representative of this Galactic Federation
receiving a disclosure plan, that the Galactic Federation is continuing
to kind of like operate behind the scenes at the
highest level of US government. Previously was with the Trump administration,
(10:44):
now it's working with this General van Herk And apparently
he was given a something like a thumb drive with
a lot of information on it concerning disclosure and that
happened just before or General van Hook was seen just
(11:05):
before this series of UFOs shootdowns at this continuity of
government facility called raven Rock Mountain Complex in Pennsylvania in
the Blue Ridge Mountains. That he was apparently seen there
meeting with this Collected Federation representative and that at this
(11:29):
base has a spaceport below it where this Collected Federation
representative spacecraft was part and and that you know, that's
very very interesting because raven Rock Mountain Complex has been
seen in the past with UFOs, that there have been
(11:52):
UFOs as sided and this is being documented by mouf on.
So all of this kind of like very suggestive something
concerning UFO disclosure involving the Neglectic Federation and miss General
van Hirk connected and that this is some way was
also related to the UFO shootdown. So you know, something
(12:16):
almost seems to be like the opening act of something
much bigger that's coming down the pipeline. And is a
professor from Harvard University are lob Do you know him?
I know of him. I haven't met him, but he
he is. He's been on the map for for the
last few years in terms of this interstellar object or Muama,
(12:41):
which today they said was just a natural object. They
came out and said that today. Well, I think a
lot of astronomers have been saying that from the beginning.
But Professor Loeb, unless he's changed his position, he's been
saying from the beginning that he believes this was an
(13:03):
artificial object. That he looked at the way it exhilarated
as it was passing through our solar system and its
shape and other characteristics to come up with the idea
that this is an interstellar object. And I think he's
still saying that too. He hasn't changed. Oh good, good, Yeah,
(13:24):
that's that's what I thought. And so, yeah, he believes
it's an artificial object. And and it's very interesting that
this is a Hawaiian word for kind of like advanced
scout craft, some sort of object coming in advance to
kind of like a surveyed the territory, Yes, exactly. And
(13:48):
he Professor Lobe just the last couple of weeks wrote
a joint paper with doctor Sean Kirkpatrick, who's the head
of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, that's the office
that was just created last year to provide reports to
(14:09):
the US Congress on UFOs or UAPs as as they're
still called an officialdom. And they wrote about the possibility
that these UFOs or what is being seen by many
scientific instruments actually maybe motherships. And that that really got
(14:32):
my attention because like, well, this is the first time
you've you've got well, you've got a senior officials Sean
ka Patrick that runs the ARROW Office, which is located
in the Pentagon, and you've got Professor R. V. Loeb,
who is the former Chief Astronomer or head of the
Astronomy department at Harvard University. He now heads the Galilee
(14:54):
or project. They're openly speculating that some UFOs may be
motherships and or releasing little ones right that, yeah, that
these little objects that are being cited, some of them
might be probes actually derive or originate from motherships that
have arrived in our solar system. So to me, this
(15:17):
is this is really groundbreaking because this is the first
time you've actually had public officials speculating about extras motherships
in our solar system. And this is and that kind
of matches what I've been told by my sources, various
sources saying that since early two twenty one, a number
(15:44):
of extraterrestrial motherships have arrived in our solar system and
they're here to oversee a major transition in planetary affairs
on Earth. There's your congressman out of Tennessee, Tim Burchette,
who has apparently gone on records talking about recovered alien
spacecraft and bodies. What do we know about this? Well,
(16:07):
you know that I thought that was a really interesting development.
I mean that he is going on the record saying
that there are these recovered space path and bodies, and
you know, whether openly steculates, whether these are being reverse engineered,
and what he's talking about here is a briefing, an
(16:30):
informal briefing given to the US of Congress by a
doctor Eric Davis around twenty nineteen when he traveled to
Congress and people were very interested in the tic TAC
sightings and they wanted to get more information. And so
(16:50):
this Eric Davis, who has been working at the kind
of cutting edge of future technology. Eric Davis was asked
to give a briefing, a kind of informal briefing, because
I don't think he held or his holds an official
government position at the moment, but is involved in some
(17:14):
major scientific think tanks looking at future technologies. And so
he went in and he talked about an incident that
he was told about by a former three star general,
(17:34):
General Thomas Wolfson, who he met with in two thousand
and two, and they had a discussion about a major
US corporation, probably Luckeed Martin. I mean, that wasn't admitted,
but it's very luckily either Luckeed or Dawthrop Grumman exactly
(17:59):
having a captured extraterrestrial spacecraft and that it is studying
it and trying to reverse engineer it. Well, we've always
heard rumors that we had these things, didn't we Well,
that's right, of course. Of the most famous, of course,
is the ninety forty seven Roosevelt crash. I mean, there
(18:19):
have been many, many, very credible people coming forward. Researchers
chronically the whistable old testimonies of hundreds of people talking
about the Roosevelt craft, and of course that's always been speculation,
but that you had this incident where this scientist meets
(18:42):
with a former three star general who headed the Defense
Intelligence Agency and wanted to learn more about this craft.
Apparently even the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency didn't
know what was happening in the secure vaults of this
court operation that had its hands on a captured extraterrestrial spacecraft.
(19:06):
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