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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Melissa Tittle is star and host of the popular TV
series UFO Witness. She's former head of content and Development
at the Gaya Network and an established journalist, producer, and documentarian.
Her new film, which just took home some hardware from
the Midwest Weird West Film Festival, is Code twelve, The
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Code Out of the Matrix. Melissa Tittle, Welcome to Coast
to Coast, How are you hi? Thanks for having me,
my pleasure. So this this journey to I guess, discover
the secret nature of reality, unravel this ancient code that's
found in tombs and ancient sacred sites around the world,
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all began with a dream, a recurring dream you've had
since childhood. Tell us about it. You know, this whole
documentary became pretty personal for me, um and I. You know,
I think all of us that are probably listening to
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this or are doing similar research, have had some kind
of personal interaction with whatever material that they're they're going
down a rabbit hole with. And you know, I'm no different.
And I had this this dream that just kept reoccurring
where I was, I was in a desert UM. And
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the desert was very specific, and I'll tell you, I'll
tell you a little bit why that's important. UM. And
I was in this desert with what looked to be
a staff, and I would go to a specific spot
and I would hit the ground with this staff and
all these lines, consecutive circles would would berberate out, and
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then these twelve spokes of a wheel would come out,
and then it would get really bright, and then it
would disappear. The dream was over, and it just kept
happening over and over and over again. And I think
it wasn't until I started working on Ancient Aliens, you know,
a million years ago when it first started that whole series,
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that I started kind of putting together some of the
symbolism with some of the people that we were interviewing,
or I was reading some of their books that we
were considering some thought processes for the show, and I thought,
you know, is there a pattern to this? So this
has been going on a lot, and throughout the years,
I've kind of put some pieces together, and I thought,
there's something else going on here. There's there's a lot
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of people obsessed with codes on this planet and with
the idea of fractals and me and the Da Vinci code,
and I basically all of that is true. But what
I'm saying is there's another code that's overlaid behind all
of that, all the stuff that people have already put together,
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there's something else is going on. And I think that
this that we're going to talk about is a code
that allows us to get out of this other code
that's been kind of overlaid our society and our understanding
of the universe. One of the first people that you
went to to try and unravel this secret was Maria Wheatley,
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who we know as an author and an expert on Stonehenge,
and she's a dowser and she she researches Earth's energies.
What did she make of this dream and these concentric circles?
I mean, Maria is Maria's known for a lot of
work as Stonehenge and avery and you know, but she
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understands things from looking at the patterns that the Earth creates.
And she really led me to some really old books
books that I and even when I try to get
some of the images cleared, I could I don't even
people aren't alive, they're so old like, you know, I've
never even heard of these people. Um, but they really
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talk about these kind of verberations that these temples leave,
and how they're all across the planet and how they
possibly could have communicated with each other. Of course, she's
a doubt er. So we're talking about lay lines and
dragon lines and all that kind of stuff, you know,
not just the concentric circles of Stonehenge or Aveberry, but um,
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but that these these temples around the world created this,
They create some kind of rippling effects. And I thought
that was really interesting because I think as humans we
really want to be verbatim with our limited understanding of
what things mean. And she led me in this past
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to think, Okay, I'm having this concentric circle twelve dream,
whatever that is. And she's talking about concentric circles from
the idea of frequency and temples and structure is being
built on certain spots to create that frequency. And we
were talking about Atlantis and how you know, even the
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the the concentric circles of Atlantis have that kind of concept.
It's almost built as if it's capturing that frequency. And
I thought, I, you know, all stories and mythologies are
kind of built on people's understanding of what's going on.
And it could be that our understanding of how Atlantis
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was built, there's actually a metaphor for how it works,
Like the symbolism of the concentric circles is how Atlantis
operated instead of okay, it was built in concentric circles.
Right right in Plato's dialogues, we learn that Atlantis is
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a city on an island surrounded by several bodies of water.
So that's where we get this the concentric circles, which
looks an awful lot like the concentric circles in your dream?
What did where did the um? Where does Maria Wheatley believe? Um?
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These circles are generated from? Are they from deep within
the earth? They come and they come percolating up. Yeah,
there's these hot there's these I'm just gonna call them
for the sake of I was just we use the
word hotspots. Don't think that's great terminology. Go we'll call
it hotspots. H And ancient people knew this, and so
they built a temple in a certain construction to capture
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that energy, uh, and be able to harness the direction
of that and create these uh, these waves if you will,
a frequency um, the saught processes. And of course this
is not just my idea. This is there's other people
that have had this thought too, that like, all these
massive structures have a similar building code to them, and
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could they have communicated with each other in some kind
of ancient technology that's not working today quite quite possibly,
but m and that kind of goes into her theory
of like the the idea that these are built up
certain places, they have a certain construction and design to them,
and then that kind of harnesses the energy of those
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frequencies concentric circles um. And uh. You know it's really
interesting is that in the dialogues of Tamias and Christias
that Lata talks about, he gives an actual measurement for
the for Atlantics of how big it was. And this
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is what I always find really interesting, and I talk
about this little bit the docentary is that we have
all these measurements for buildings, like why do I need
to know at this stage some two thousand years ago,
two thousand years later? And why do I need to
know how big Solomon's temple is? Why do I need
to know the measurements of Atlantis? I don't know much
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about Atlantis. I know that it's concentric circles. It there's
a placement that he gives between two land masses, which
is which is why everyone has come up with where
they think Atlantis is. And of course, um, then there's
this idea of this measurement and I'm always thinking like, okay,
atter all these years, why do we need to know
the measurements of the building. I'm not like Melissa is
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at this address and her building is this, Paul, and
this why it's like, Okay, we went on this whole
path about what's happening with these people at Solomon Temple,
and then we'll get into the measurements unless unless that
is part of the coding, and they're hoping people will
figure that outset that that's the reason that these numbers
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are given, is that they've become the numbers of how
it operates, and they're in a specific number of how
Atlantis operates. And Maria was able to figure that out,
which I thought was so fascinating. And the numbers that
are given if you use it in a division of ten.
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So if let's say you the number that you that
is given for the measurement of Atlantis, if you divide
that by ten, you get um are you multiplied by ten,
you get the actual circumference of the earth. So why
are we why is that encoded in Atlantis unless it's
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a metaphor for something else, and you see that, You
see that all over with these temples they talk about
there's this you know, flowery romantic story that's happening at
the temple, and then all of a sudden, we're talking
about measurements and uh, and that's kind of what this
whole conversation with Maria. I'm like, Okay, maybe we're looking
at this all wrong. Maybe we're looking at we're looking
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at one direction of one measurement and one understanding put
possibly the idea that's of how everything's encoded with this
Fibonacci code DA Vinci code type stuff, and we're not
looking at some of the other weird anomalies at these buildings,
these tentles, at these mythologies of these stories that there's
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I think there's two codes happening at the same time,
one that's locked with into our current timeline right now,
and another one that offers us a way out. All right,
So let's let's drill down a little bit, because This
is fascinating. When you talked about the measurements of Atlantis's diameter,
and again this is coming from Plato's dialogues, and it's
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quite specific. He mentions one hundred and twenty seven Stadia,
I have no idea what a state he is, but
it works out to roughly seventy nine thousand, two hundred feet.
So and then you say, we divide that by ten,
because as we as we learn from you and the
documentary that that just about our entire reality is comprised of.
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You know, it's based on base ten. So we divide
seventy nine thousand, two hundred by ten, and we get
this seventy nine point two zero, which keeps popping up
time and time again. Seventy nine point two seventy nine
point two even in Stonehenge apparently, right, yep, yeah, even
in Stonehenge. You see the these exact same measurements. Now,
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these are only two locations that we kind of dive
into with Maria. Um. But she's what she's saying, is that,
why why this measurement, why this understanding? What are they
trying to tell us? And why would you put that there? Um?
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I agree? Why? Like, why unless unless that that measurement
was important to encode in that temple so that it
was in frequency, in residency with with UM with the
whole entire planet. Right. I mean, that's that's what kind
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of rang in my mind, Like, okay, well, how many
of these other temples and locations have this kind of
same measurement or understanding? Right? So next stop is um
Billy Carson, who of course is very familiar to UH
Coast to Coast listeners. And Billy Carson is written extensively
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about the Emerald Tablets, which are, according to legend, were
written by the Egyptian god Toth. What do the Emerald
tablets have to do with all this um? So the
Emerald tablets, you know, we just take we just take
this concepts a little bit further. Okay, So somebody, some
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will say, somebody or lots of people knew that if
they built all these temples on these on these hotspots,
these points, and they were able to magnify the frequencies,
somebody had to have an overall arching plan for how
those frequencies are going to be used. Of course, we
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are insinuating that, you know, maybe all these temples and
locations communicated with each other. And if that's so, then
there's a big architect that's created this system of this
communication and this understanding. And well Billy Carson has which
is he's really into and he's written book about his
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Emerald tablests and and there um. And this isn't the
first place that talked about toasting the architects, but this
is his kind of book. This is his him saying, look,
I created I created this system, and this is how
I did it. And so we get into those specifics
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and you know what's really interesting about the Emerald tableists.
For some reason, it's not the most popular books. Like
I like when I talk to people, like people will
quote things from other books and everything, but it's it's weird.
It's like people bring up the Emerald tablists and they're like, okay, yeah, okay,
the Emerald tablists. And I don't know why that is.
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There's just like a weird thing in our brain that
I think. There's people that are really in they it's
really it's a hard read, but they're into it. And
there's just people that just overlook it like it's some
kind of documents that exists, but our book, but it's
just not doesn't resonate in our human minds, which I
think is also a really interesting thing. Side note, So
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in the Emeral Tabists, he talks about how he's kind
of the architect for all of this, so he basically
puts the stamp on it. He's like, look, I understand
how this all works, and I created it. I created
this worldwide type of network. UM. And he talks about
that after the fall of Atlantis, Um in specific detail,
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that there was the reason for the fall of Atlantis.
And and a lot of people know this this part
a little bit is that Um, there were he calls
it the masters of the Why and the masters of
the of the Darks, depending on your interpretation and the
book you have that's translated for the Emerald Tablist. But
he says that at one point these this these this
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group of people or whatever got together and decided they
wanted more power in the in the idea of Atlantis. Right.
So here we have Tilt saying yes, Atlantis existed, UM,
and that there was this this great they had this
great power and there was a kind of this golden
age for everybody. But there was a group of people
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that wanted a little bit more power and what they did.
They invited what he calls these these these this darkness
into human souls. It could only exist, it was in
another dimension. It could only exist if they brought it in,
and it kind of encompasses itself into uh like the
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blood of man basically, and this was starting to infect
the inhabitants of Atlantis. So the masters of the White
this is according to the interpretation I have came in
and said, okay, enough, we have to stop this before
it takes over most of humanity. We need to create
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a system that that blocks them out. And so the
fall of Atlantis was the cutting off of humans being
able to be able to be part of the universe
like they used to, which is part of the Golden Age,
and and putting them in a like almost like above
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bowl so that they couldn't they couldn't they wouldn't be
taken over by this darkness that now had kind of invaded,
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