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And a lot more.
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On this edition of the show, Tales from the Hearse
author David Alan Voyles. This is a particularly special podcast,
and that is because the man you are about to
hear me interview was my English teacher when I was
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a sophomore at Clyde A. Irwin High School in Asheville,
North Carolina. Now Here is why this is especially weird.
Mister Voyles was one of those teachers that everybody loved.
He always had a and you could tell that he
sincerely enjoyed his job. And when I was his student,
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he was always truly supportive of me and my writing,
and he would invite me to read my macabre poems
and short stories in front of the class. He was
just a really warm person who actually cared about his students. Regardless,
I'm not the kind of guy who remains friends with
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his old teachers. Frankly, I did not enjoy going to school,
as you can imagine. I don't like being forced to
live like normal people on a daylight schedule. But you see,
over the years, as I got older, I would hear
that mister Voyles was becoming stranger and stranger. As he
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was nearing retirement, he started writing and then publishing creepy
stories himself. And then next thing you know, I heard
he'd lost his mind and bought a hearse and was
driving people all over Ashville and scaring the Bejesus out
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of him for fun. It seems that once he retired,
he decided to finally reveal his true identity. He's the
only teacher I know of who has done this, and
I thought, what are the chances.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That I just so happened to be a student of
this fella.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, of course, Lauren and I had to take his
hearse ride. And I'm joking here. He didn't actually lose
his mind. He just decided to start having fun with
his lifelong love of spooky things. He started throwing one
of the most elaborate Halloween parties in the entire area
each year. I mean the kind of thing where you know,
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he must spend months prepared every year, you know, turning
his house and wooded property way up in the mountains
into I don't know, like a devilish carnival or a
haunted house. You know, various themes. Amazing job, and people
come from far and wide have a great time. So
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this guy, he plays in a hearse. He turns his
house into an attraction at Halloween. And he has written
numerous books, including one of my favorites called Tales from
the Hearse. But he has a new novel about a
young Edgar Allan Poe. It's called Edgar, and he's going
to tell you about that and more. He's got some
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strange stories.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You're about to hear.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
But before I play this interview, I want you to
know that his house was seriously damaged recently by Hurricane Helene,
and he is currently displaced and maybe for a long time.
So in our conversation on his cell phone, you will
occasionally hear a little buffering, but not too much, so
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please understand and forgive that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
As you know, I don't usually do.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Interviews on this show, but a conversation with him on
this show is long overdue. So here we go. Let's
get the scoop on this mysterious man. David alan Voyles,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, it is my pleasure to be here. I am
thrilled to be able to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Isn't it funny to think that I am probably a
good ten years older than you were when you were
my English teacher.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
That is that is a mind glory, it really is.
That is great.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You know, you were one of the few teachers that
everybody always loved, including me, and it's synchronistic that a
guy like you, who is so into dark literature would
end up being my teacher for a year.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But let's talk about your roots.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Where were you born and raised and what attracted you
to the literary field.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I just
always had an affinity for Halloween. I loved Halloween. I
loved dark things, spooky things, and that I just never
outgrew it that that love of Halloween especially is just
something that I always look forward to, definitely the favorite holiday.
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And so even when I started teaching. Of course, I
got my degree in literature, but I always gravitated toward
the dark stories and loved those. Those are just my favorites,
and so the classics of those, you know, worldwide, even
I would love to do and work Halloween into my curriculum.
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You know. We would have semester schedules in high school,
of course, as you recall, but in the first semester
you have Octo. So that was very easy for me
to find some literature to do there, and I would
always read a spooky story and do some fun stuff
with that. One time I stuck a rat, a fake rat,
on the back of my coat jacket and read a
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story called the Graveyard Rats and had stayed seated the
whole time, I remember, before the class was there, so
that when I got up at the end of the
story to write on the board. They would then see
the rat on the back of my jacket at the
Graveyard rat story. When I retired from teaching, because of
the Halloween and Halloween parties that we'd always had, we
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had a theme one year of having a ghost tour,
and so we have a little bit of property around
our house and I could make scenes and I could
walk around the property and tell the stories about these
scenes that I'd made up. And after that party, I
was talking with my wife and my grown son and said,
you know, people just love that kind of thing. Wouldn't
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it be cool to do that on a full time
basis and have a ghost tour? But like the walking
tour that you have, I thought, well, what if you
could do a hearse. What if you could get a
small number of people and take them around the haunted
places in Ashville and a hearse. Within a year we
had bought a nineteen seventy two Cadillac Hearse and we
had dark ride tours on the road, and you did
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get the opportunity to take a tour with us.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
As I recall, oh absolutelyely. I love the entire experience.
But you know, before we get to that was teaching
your first job or did you have jobs before that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
No, teaching was my first job. I went into it
thinking in high school. I mean from about my high
school years, I started thinking about being a teacher and
wanting to be a teacher. And this is a terrible
thing to say or to confess to, but often later,
like when they ask you, I actually got the opportunity
to serve as a Teacher of the Year for the
county and the region, But they asked you questions like
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what inspired you to be a teacher, and I'm unfortunately,
it's usually this wonderful, great teacher. But I can remember
that in the tenth grade, I had a teach and
I sat in that classroom. I loved English and I
loved reading, and I thought, oh my god, this is
so bad. I could do a better job than this.
And that was my very arrogant sixteen year old self saying, oh, yeah,
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I could do this. But it really did become a
thing with me. Is like, I wanted to teach, So
I knew when I went to college that I wanted
to get my teaching certificate and I wanted to teach English.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And you didn't start publishing until after you retired.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Right, that's correct. You After thirty years of teaching and
doing the ghost tours, when the ghost tours ended because
of COVID, I thought, well, this is a good time
to I'm going to go ahead and put some of
these why not put them together in a book? And
I have started out with a series of Christmas horror stories,
because you know, after all that Christmas really needs right
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more horror.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I had to do. I did a collection of thirteen
stories there thirteen days, thirteenth of Christmas. And I enjoyed
doing that and had a friend who was to start
doing He was already had just started helping independent writers
in the authors publish, so he helped publish that first
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book and one or two after that, and that it began.
But it was not until then, you know, well into
my sixties that I started trying to publish. And I
just turned seventy this year.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So now getting back to the hearse and you're you know,
like you said, Lauren, and I had the honor of
being guessed in that hearse and what a unique experience
that was. You were a dressed in this dramatic costume.
Tell us about Virgil, this character that you created.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I wanted to come up with something as a character
and for Josh my son, who was the driver of that.
We started, you know, brainstorming about ideas and I thought,
I thought I'd liked the idea of being this sort
of grave digger, funeral home director teller. And then I guess,
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going back to the roots of you know, going back
to Dante in the Inferno, I thought, you know, Virgil,
the Roman poet serves as the guide to hell for
Dante in that work, and I thought, you know, I
like the name Virgil anyway.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
And I've always liked Ray Bradberry's story Something Wicked This
Way Comes and the main character there are two boys
in the story, but one is Jim Knightshade, and I
love the name night Shade and that whole idea that
you know, poison and.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Everything about that. So Virgil Nightshade was the name that
I took for that. And my son ended up wearing
the garb of a like almost looks like a grim reaper.
But he was, you know, tall, and he's just real big,
and he seemed intimidating with this half skull mask underneath
the cow that and he was our driver, and so
he was we referred to him as Sharon the you
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know the ferrymen of the dead and Greek mythology taking
you across so leading people into this darkness. Sing perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
When we go back to this break, he's gonna tell
you the true weird story called Maggie and the Pig Face.
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I Gietato Zume.
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His website is his name David Allenvoyls dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's spelled d a v I d a l l
E n v O y l e.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
S dot com. When you go there, it says dark
Tales for bright minds. Let's get back to the conversation
with horror author David Allenvoyles. When I was a teenager, Uh,
you probably recall I published a book called Speaking of
Strange and it had paranormal experiences and just weird encounters
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that people from the region it had.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You published. Are you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You wrote a story that was published in that book
called Maggie in the Pig Face.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And I don't know if you want to recap that,
but I just want to ask you in general about
some real paranormal experiences that you've had in your life.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, that story, that is so that is such an
odd We were living out in Leices, which in an
area you know, well at that time I'm in Swanna,
Noah now and on the other side of the other
side of the county, but at that time that that
really wasn't a count and that just enough to kind
of make that story a little bit shorter. And I've
never been able to understand it exactly or come up
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with possible good explanation for it. But we had a
dog at that time, lived on about seven acres we
left at that time. The dogs run everybody did at
that point, and that dog would just travel and go
all over the place. But below us was someone who
slaughtered hogs on occasion. But we had the dog brought
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up this hogshead at one point just in you know,
it's it'd been a fresh, freshly butchered kill, and we
were getting ready to have company, and we thought, oh
my gosh, this is terrible. I took the thing and
pitched it over the fence into the woods and it
tumbled down a long hill into a ravine, and thought
we were taking care of it. But over a period
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of time, that dog kept bringing up this hog skull,
and weeks would go by, and of course you can
imagine how disgusting that was, until eventually it was just
this bleached out skull. Well after weeks had passed beyond that,
and I'm trying to get rid of it. Every time
that dog got into something, some poison or something. I
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don't prefer not to think that somebody poisoned the dog,
but it did get into poison and it died, and
I buried it on the edge of the property. We
had a long curving drive that led up to a
ranch house up on the side of the mountain there,
and I buried the dog put the little toys in there,
like some people do with their favorite toys and things.
And not too long after that, one day I was
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driving back up that driveway and making the curve back
to the house, looking at the grave because it'd often
do that. And I saw sitting there and a brown
patch of dirt that marked the grave, something white and
what in the world is that? And I got out
of the truck and went over to look on it,
and there was a hog skull sitting on top of
her grave. And I have no idea how it got there.
My wife remembers that there was another little dog that
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would sometimes come and just sit at her grave, and uh,
and I, you know, it's just it's just really odd
to think of whatever might have happened, but it does
seem like, you know, Maggie in the face. Josh was
just my son. Josh was just a little kid at
that time, and he'd uh, he'd referred to that dog
it's called as a pig face, and so he when
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when when it returns the second time, he was like, Daddy,
the pig face is back. So that was the essence
behind Maggie and the pig face. But aside from that,
I haven't had too many experiences. People often say, well,
you had this hearse. Did you ever have any experiences
with the supernatural and the hearse? Well, I've said often
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that I'm apparently about as spiritually sensitive as a brick.
You know. I just don't ever since any of the
things that other spirit sensitives do, and I'd like to,
but it just doesn't seem to happen to me. But
I have had on occasion spirit sensitives tell me about
things that were happening, especially one story about the hearse.
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If you'd like to hear that, Oh yeah, sure, when
we I don't know how long we'd had it. I'm
not sure even if we had actually begun having the
tours yet, but I knew of a woman and had
come to known her, who just convinced me even though
I am a skeptic, and I look at this and
approach it the way you do. Really you always look
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at it from the scientific point of view, as if
to disprove it and then see what can still be there.
So I'm very much a skeptic of these things, but
I had experiences with her that just made me feel
like I can't come up with any other explanation that
there are such things as spirits, that there are connections
we can have with the dead. Well, she had invited
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her over to see the hearse, I think early on
after we had gotten it and renovated it and ready
to do the tours, and so she came over. We
just opened the door, she stuck her head in it,
and I guess I should say first, we bought the
hearse from a fellow in Virginia who actually was selling
it as a part of an estate from his brother
who had passed away. His brother had owned the hearse
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and he had used it as a business and had
put Hi Fi equipment in it, stereo equipment, and he
would DJ parties. So we learned about that and we
had to do quite a bit of renovation beyond that,
because it's sat for a long time. But anyway, that's
the person that we bought it from. Well, without her
knowing any of that history, we opened the door up
for her to see her. She stuck her head in
and she said, as you recall, we had like there
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were two rows of seats, one that ran all the
way down the length of the hearse and went across
the middle, separated from the front seat. She stuck her
head in the side door and she said, well, first
of all, let me tell you, I'm hearing rock and
roll music, seventies rock and roll music, especially Creden's clear Water. Okay,
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And she said, and there's a gentleman sitting in the
corner of where these seats that you've made very happy,
very pleased, thrilled with what you're doing with the hearse,
very very large fellow, very very huge fellow. But he
loves this music. Well, I didn't know it at that time.
I didn't know that he had done these parties. But
I sent another message back after this to his brother
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who had survived, who sold us the hurst, and I said,
I just got to ask you a question. Did your
brother particularly what kind of music did he play? He said, oh, yeah,
it was definitely seventies music. But he was a real
fan of Creeden Sclarewater Uh huh. And I had seen
pictures of him. But I said, and your brother was
a pretty large man, and he said, oh yeah, he
was huge. So how she was able to zero on
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those are just not things that you can coincidentally come
up with. That just struck me as like, Okay, so
I'm glad if we're going to have a haunted hearse
that the previous owner of the hearse was at least
happy with what we were doing with it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That Yeah, that is I mean so specific. When things
like that happen, you scratch your head and you say,
how could that possibly be coincidence?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah? I know, you know, and I watch shows all
the time. I love watching these shows. But I'm you know,
I'm understanding, or I'm at least skeptic enough to go, oh,
they could have done thus, and so to find out
that information or done this kind of research or whatever,
somebody told them that they had to tell them that
this was stuff that I only I knew. I was
the only connecting point here to those two people that
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she had no idea who we had bought this from.
It was in another state. And as you say, when
you had those kinds of facts come up, it's that's
a head scratcher. It's hard to say that. Hard to
come up with any other kind of justific not justification,
explanation for it. Hard to come up with that.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And things like that just continue inspiring ideas for stories.
I mean, you've written a number of books, including your
latest novel, Edgar, and let me tell you this is impressive,
to say the least, all the way from concept to execution,
right to the last page.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Tell us about.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Edgar, I got. I had been wanting to write a
book about Edgar Allen Poe for decades. The thing that
I wanted to write, and I say this in the
introduction to the book, I have wanted to do this.
There's such a mystery about Poe's death, and everyone has,
you know, come up with all kinds of different possibilities, which,
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by the way, his death October seventh, as we're recording
this is still that's tomorrow for us right now. That
death has been fascinating of how why did he end
up where he did? And clothes there aren't even his
Most people assume assumed that he was in a drunken state,
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because that's what the people that found him thought. But
why was he there, Why was he not wearing his
own clothes? What happened to him? And I wanted to
write a story about that, But this book edgar. When
I finally came down around to sitting down to write
a book about Poe, that's not the story that came out.
For some reason, and I cannot explain it. I just
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wanted to write a story. I thought, you need to
write one about if he was a boy, with the
premise of what if all the scariest things that Poe
told about in his stories were all inspired by things
that happened to him when he was a boy at
fifteen years old living in Richmond, Virginia. Wouldn't that be
an interesting story? So that's the one I wrote. And
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I had such fun researching things about Richmond at that time,
finding out things about real people in his life that
I wanted to incorporate into the story. His relationship with
his adoptive parents, John Allen and Francis Allen, what that
would have been like. There was quite a bit of
tension that he had with his adopted father. All those
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things I wanted to work in, but I wanted to
work in his stories as well. So I took thirteen
or so of the stories and reworked them a little bit,
but had under the basic premise one of his stories
in which there is the narrator of the story, William Wilson,
is the story is a doppleganger for the narrator. He
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sees himself, and this stud covers years in the character's life,
making his life miserable. And I said, Okay, that's going
to be the premise story. The Eedgar Allen Poe has
a doubleganger and it is making his life miserable by
causing these supernatural events that will go on. And I
can work in stories, parts of post tales into the chapters,
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but make it one long cohesive tale when we.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Come back more on Edgar. And then also what happens
on Halloween Knight when you drive around in Asheville, North
Carolina in a hearse Well, he has kind of a
funny story about that as well. I'm Joshua P.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Warren.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
back after these important messages, so stick around. Welcome back
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to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm your host, Joshua P.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Warren, and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Well,
it's time for the conclusion of my conversation with author
David Allen Voyles and we were just talking about his
brand new novel called Edgar. It actually, as I was
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reading it, it inspired me to want to go back
and reread some of Poe's stories so that I could
further solidify the connections, which and that's one of the
great things about this book is that it sort of
opens up all of these other worlds of possibility.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And let me just tell you, I don't know if
you've thought about this. I bet you have.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
When I finished reading this, I thought to myself and
a lot of people listen to this podcast, somebody out
there needs to buy the rights to this book and
turn it into a TV series about young Edgar Allan Poe.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It does. I kind of picture it that way. It
wasn't the way that I intended as I'm writing it,
but it does flow that way, and it's very episodic.
It definitely has these because each chapter, each chapter really
is going, is influenced by a particular chapter or a
story of pose. And even though it's connected all over,
it takes place over one summer. It definitely has that
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kind of episodic flow. So with a connecting theme of
this doppelganger, this dark Edgar that keeps appearing and making
Edgar Allan Poe's life miserable.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, it's it's just a wonderful book, and I hope
everybody will go read this. We're going to give out
your website to actually go ahead and give it out
right now, what's your website address?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, it's David Alanvoyles dot com. And I spell my
Alan a little different than Edgar Allen Poe. Mine is
a L L E end, So David Alanvoyles dot com.
We did have one momentous Halloween where it was the
only time this really happened, but being an old hearse
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and somewhat questionable, it broke down on Halloween night with
customers in it, and that was unbelievable. We had two
or three we had made special tours for it, pulled
up into the Unca parking lot, which was one of
our first stops, and we knew we were had had
some questions about the Hears's mechanics at the point, but
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we thought, no, we've already got these people book for
Halloween night. It seems to be doing okay, and Josh
gave me the signal from the front seat, kind of
a line across the throat and when he turned around
to look at him after hearing a particularly loud clunk,
like nope, this tour is over, and we had to
pull into the parking lot and tell them I'm sorry,
but this hearse's died, unfortunately, and they laughed and chuckled
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ha ha haa, thinking it was part of the tour,
and had to say, this isn't part of the tour.
I'm afraid I got to call you a taxi or aneuverer.
And we got those folks. They were so nice and
so forgiving. One of the couples. We didn't realize it
at the time, but we did the same thing the
following Halloween and didn't realize that. They told me and
they said, you know, we were in that hearst that
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broke down last year. But we still loved the whole
idea of it so much that we had to do
it again, and so they got they did it and
we got the successful right out. But I will never
forget that Halloween when the hearst died.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
One of the nice things about being in the ghost
business is that when you screw up or something breaks
or whatever, you can just say, oh, I told you
ghosts were real this year.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh man, well.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So that opportunity give us your website once again and
anything else you'd like to say.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The floor is yours.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
The website is David allenvoyls dot com. I also invite
people to join me on Facebook for the Dark Corners page.
It's a dark Dark Corners is the name of it,
which is also the name of the podcast that I have.
I haven't been active with the podcast, but it's basically
got three seasons that you can listen to. Now I
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want to come back and revisit and add to that.
But the first season is my mention of some of
my original short stories. Season two is a novella that's
in thirteen episodes called Which Works, and the third season
is the novel in thirteen episodes as well, called Wraiths
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of the Appalachian well.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
David, the clock has got us.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But once again, you know, I think it's absolutely amazing
that I had the honor to be your student. I
knew we had a lot in common, but I did
not realize just how much at the time. And it's
been wonderful to remain your friend after all these decades,
and I know you will continue to surprise and entertain
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us with your amazing tales. So thank you so much
for being my guest.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's been a thrill. It's my pleasure as well to
be able to talk to with you and share those
stories with you, and I look forward to hearing even
more from your broadcasts as well.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
All right, once again, his website is Davidallenvoyles dot com.
Of course, you could just go to Amazon and type
in his name, and as a matter of fact, I
mean you'll find all of his books. But right now
I'm looking at Edgar when Poe's Nightmares began. I'm telling
you it's got almost five out of five. I mean
practically five out of five stars. It's like, maybe there's
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a little sliver of white, but it's basically five out
of five stars. And that's really hard to get. Nowadays,
people are so mean when they review stuff. And the
paperback's only thirteen dollars ninety nine cents and the kindle
is four ninety nine. So if you like that kind
of novel, then you should check out his work. So
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we'll see what he's up to in the future. Well,
I think it would be great if we just continued
this theme of tales from the hearse and I just
kept telling you tales that are creepy and spooky for
the rest of the show. And since it's my show,
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that is what we're gonna do. And therefore, let me
go right to right to the emails that I get.
I get some of the most interesting emails from listeners.
Here's one from Paulette. She says, Hi, Joshua, the other night,
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my husband and I were listening to your podcast. We
live in the Sierra Foothills, so we are an hour
from everywhere, so we listened to you in the car.
You were talking about your friend that passed away and
how you have a word to confirm so you knew
when it was them after they passed. Well about six
years ago. So my mother passed from colon cancer. I
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am an only child and I have three now adult children.
My mom was a paranormal sci fi fan for as
long as I can remember, and we talked about if
she ever died, she needed to let us know she
was still around. Well toward the end of mom's life,
I had to move into help her. I lived with
her about three months before she passed away at home.
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The next few days after her passing were just a
blur of making arrangements and talking with family. After five days,
my youngest daughter was in the car with me and
she looked at me and said, Mom, I'm disappointed. I
really thought Grandma was going to let us know she
was around. And I said, well, honey, I'm sad about
that too, but I guess it just as it meant
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to be. We were sitting in the driveway at my
mom's house, where I was still living, and as we
backed up, my rear sensor went off and in my
video on the screen in the car, there was a
green digital block showing there was something in the way,
and we kind of looked at each other and I
got out to investigate because there was nothing there. When
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I got back in the car, I proceeded to put
it in reverse and there it was again, that green
digital block. And we looked at each other with delight,
and my daughter said, so you think it's Grandma. I said,
I don't know, and then I said, mom, get in
the car. She went everywhere with us when.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
She was alive.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I put it in reverse again and well, no green block.
We were excited about it and talked about it all day,
and later that evening we were in the car again.
Back in the driveway. We were telling my cousin about it,
and he said, you're crazy. We proceeded to back up
and nothing. He said, it was just a fluke, and
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I said, wow, I really thought it would happen again.
I pulled back into the driveway and before I backed
out again, I said, mom, My cousin thinks I'm crazy,
Please show him what I'm talking about. We proceeded to
back up and boom. There were now two squares, one
yellow and one green. The square colors represent how close
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you are to hitting something, and my daughter and I
squealed and my cousin's eyes just got big. Wow, he said.
Then we continued on our way. It happened one more
time after that, and this time there were three blocks,
two green and one yellow. You see, my dad passed
away when I was young, and my mom's husband had
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passed several years before, and I'm convinced this electromagnetic energy
came from them. It settled my mind about the afterworld,
and in a weird way, it comforted me because I
believe the three of them are together. It never happened
again after that. That's my story, and I believe glad
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I could share this with you, sincerely, your f Paulette.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Wow, thank you, Paulette.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know what I said, I was going to tell
you a creepy story that wasn't creepy at all. That
was very inspirational. I love that story, and you know,
it kind of reminds me of this idea that sometimes
you can perhaps use your car as a ghost hunting tool.
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I mean, that's kind of what she was doing there.
She was using the car as an instrument to sense spirits.
I mean, for example, my wife, Lauren is from Texas
and her mother used to live near San Antonio, and
there's this little hill outside of San Antonio where you
can you can park your car. Well, you don't park it,
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you just put your car in neutral and all of
a sudden it will start rolling up hill or so
it sings and till it goes up and over some
railroad tracks. And the story is that some kids died
when their school bus was hit on those railroad tracks. Well,
(37:13):
I have an update for you when we get back.
But hey, listen, look, I promised you a creepy story,
so I'm going to give you one. I'm going to
tell you about what one person saw upon waking up.
What would you do if you saw this at the
end of your bed, perched at the end of your
bed when you wake up in the middle of the night.
I'm Joshua PE Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
(37:36):
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
and I will be right back. Welcome back to the
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final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And yeah, the story was that this busload of kids
back in the day was hit by a train. They
all died right there on the train tracks. And so
now if you go there and you put your car
in neutral, even though you're at the bottom of a
hill and the tracks are at the top of the hill,
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the car will just start rolling up the hill.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And we did it, and it worked about thirty feet
up this slight.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Hill, onto the railroad tracks and over, and it's really
an amazing experience. And they said that if you had
talcum powder and you'd sprinkle it on the back of
your car, that when afterward you get out and you
look and you'd see the fingerprints and the talcum powder
of all the little kids. But we didn't have any
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talcum powder. But the fact of the matter is, I mean,
this is what's known as a gravity hill. It's actually
an optical illusion. It's an amazing optical illusion, though, because
it really does look like you're going uphill, and yet
somehow you're not. You're going ultimately downhill. You'll have to
look up the physics of that. And they always said
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that the reason that you would have fingerprints pop up
from the talcum powder is that you probably have a
bunch of finger prints already all over the back of
your car, all over your trunk, and you just don't
know it because you're touching it all the time. And
so when you sprinkle the talcum powder on there, you
see them and it's just you combine those two effects
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and it's really powerful. But it absolutely works as described. However,
I just looked it up and somebody has written here
that in twenty eighteen that they redid the road and
(40:34):
it changed the physics of the road, so the effect
no longer occurs. Ha, how about that? That's kind of sad,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Hey, the concept is cool that you could maybe use your.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Car as a paranormal instrument. Why don't some of you
try out the experiment that Paulette did and let us
know what happens in your case. All right, Um, before
I tell you this scary story, I can't help it.
I just have a little short one here that I
(41:09):
just love. It's inspirational. I gotta I gotta squeeze this
one in here before I get to this terrifying stuff.
I got this message from a man named Utah. His
name is Roy. He said, Joshua, I had terrible neuropathy
in my left leg, burning numbness and tingling sensations due
(41:34):
to nerve damage. But after wearing the Tesla Purple medallion
every day, the neuropathy has vanished. After many years of suffering,
I can now touch my left leg and it feels normal,
no burning at all, simply amazing. I am shocked at
(41:54):
the profound results. Miraculous. Thank you, Roy. I don't know
if you have ever experienced any kind of neuropathy, but
that is a horrible thing and I'm just that warms
my heart to know that, Roy, you have been helped
by this.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Thank you for this message. And you know.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I'm not a medical professional. I'm not out there trying
to sell snake oil or anything like that. But I'm
just reading you the email the guy got. If you
want to experiment with that kind of thing, I believe
I still have some of those Tesla purple pendants in
my curiosity shop if you go to Joshuapwarren dot com.
So I just had to squeeze that one in there. Okay,
(42:36):
here is a message I got from a man he
said I could use his full name, Joseph S. Peters,
regarding an incident in Houston, Texas. Going back to Texas again,
he said, the most frightening experience a child could go
through happened to me when I was four years old.
At the time, I was living with my mother in
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an apartment that seemed to exist between our realm and
a much more frightening dimension. One night, I awoke to
find a shadow creature perched at the end of my bed.
I stood up in shock while my brain was trying
to comprehend the beast that was staring me down. It
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was blacker than night, with the appearance of a cross
between a vulture and a bat. The shadow creature spread
out its wings with a span of four to five
feet as it cried a psychic screech. The sound was
so loud and terrifying that I had tears fall from
my eyes before I actually fainted. I woke up some
(43:44):
time later and noticed that the sliding door to the
closet in front of me was open. On the top
shelf in the corner stood the same demonic creature. I
jumped up, fearing for my life, begging the creature not
to scream that awful sound. I was scared by its
(44:04):
screech and was willing to do anything not to hear
it again. The shadow beast then flew out of my
closet toward me, ultimately paralyzing my body. I could only
think this was the end, for surely this bat from
hell would kill me. Then, in a split second, it
turned around and flew through the door, going out in
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the hallway. Once it was gone, I regained control over
my body and I screamed out at the top of
my lungs for my mother, who was sleeping next to me.
She woke up and asked me what the problem was.
Not knowing how to describe my experience, I told her
something was in our house and that it was trying
to get me. And my mother immediately looked through every
(44:47):
room to find the intruder and returned to the bed,
saying there was nothing in the apartment. This was not
the first paranormal event in the apartment, nor would it
be the last. As for the shadow creature, I can
only assume it was a demon. However it appeared to me,
and why would it appear to me, I would never know.
Before we left that place, long before we could find
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that out. Now you might say, well, this is just
coming from a four year old.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Kids are capable of seeing things that adults cannot see,
and I remember things very vividly from when I was
four years old. As a matter of fact, I've told
you this before. I remember I have memories of being
in the crib and not being able to talk. My
(45:39):
very first memory that I have, I mean, I'm talking
to My very first memory was Cookie Monster, and because
my mom and dad had bought me a big, blue,
furry cookie Monster. And at whatever, I don't know what
point this happened to me, but I was a baby
who couldn't even speak their helpless in a crib, and
(46:01):
I remember very clearly seeing Cookie Monster.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
And I have heard that.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
You know, you're not supposed to be able to remember
that far back, but I sure could. Here's a story
from Joe in Canton, Ohio. He says, my grandfather passed
away in the mid nineteen eighties. We sold his vehicle
as we were selling some of his possessions. My mother
and grandmother signed the title, and the new owner came
(46:26):
to pick up the vehicle. They could not find the
car keys anywhere. The house was searched from top to
bottom in drawers and closets, on shelves and tables, they
were nowhere to be found. A few days later, my
mother arrived at my grandma's house and found her to
be distraught. My mother asked what was wrong, and she
(46:47):
would only reply that she had found the keys. My
mother was happy to hear the news and ask where
they'd been. My grandmother replied, on the floor in the
middle of the bathroom. We certainly would have found them
quickly if they'd been their days earlier. It seemed like
Grandpa didn't want to sell the car. And now I've
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read this one to you before, but it's one of
my favorites. This came to me from Thomas Kelly, Minneapolis, Minnesota.
He says, in nineteen ninety seven, my girlfriend and I
were renting a huge, beautiful old duplex in South Minneapolis.
My girlfriend worked the night shift ten pm to seven am.
(47:29):
I would go to bed just after she left her work,
and she would wake me in the morning when she
returned home. One morning, she woke me up and asked
me why there was a butcher knife in the bathtub.
I told her I had no idea, and we laughed
it off. A few weeks later, she woke me up
and asked why there were bone cutters in the bathtub,
and again we laughed it off, as the kitchen was
(47:50):
adjacent to the bathroom and the butcher block knife holder
was on the counter just outside the bathroom. A month
or so later, a similar thing happened. My girlfriend asked
me why the bone cutters were in the bathroom sink.
This continued for three years, probably ten times. Somehow in
the night the cutlery would end up in the bathroom,
in the bathtub or the sink, one time in the toilet.
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One night, the butcher knife was lying the foot of
our bed. During our last weekend in the duplex, we
threw a party and invited the downstairs tenant and all
the tenants, and there was a couple who had lived
in the building for years, and when the subject of
the landlord came up, we both went white when they
told us in nineteen sixty eight, our landlord's mother had
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committed suicide in our unit in the bathtub with a
butcher knife. Okay, let's clear the air and in the show.
On a positive note, take a deep breath. If you
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This is a Strange Thing with Joshua Warn. I am
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At each week on this show, I'll be bringing you
brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments
you can do at home.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And a lot more.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
On this edition of the show, Tales from the Hearse
author David Alan Voyles. This is a particularly special podcast,
and that is because the man you are about to
hear me interview was my English teacher when I was
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a sophomore at Clyde A. Irwin High School in Asheville,
North Carolina. Now Here is why this is especially weird.
Mister Voyles was one of those teachers that everybody loved.
He always had a and you could tell that he
sincerely enjoyed his job. And when I was his student,
(02:06):
he was always truly supportive of me and my writing,
and he would invite me to read my macabre poems
and short stories in front of the class. He was
just a really warm person who actually cared about his students. Regardless,
I'm not the kind of guy who remains friends with
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his old teachers. Frankly, I did not enjoy going to school,
as you can imagine. I don't like being forced to
live like normal people on a daylight schedule. But you see,
over the years, as I got older, I would hear
that mister Voyles was becoming stranger and stranger. As he
(02:53):
was nearing retirement, he started writing and then publishing creepy
stories himself. And then next thing you know, I heard
he'd lost his mind and bought a hearse and was
driving people all over Ashville and scaring the Bejesus out
(03:14):
of him for fun. It seems that once he retired,
he decided to finally reveal his true identity. He's the
only teacher I know of who has done this, and
I thought, what are the chances.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That I just so happened to be a student of
this fella.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, of course, Lauren and I had to take his
hearse ride. And I'm joking here. He didn't actually lose
his mind. He just decided to start having fun with
his lifelong love of spooky things. He started throwing one
of the most elaborate Halloween parties in the entire area
each year. I mean the kind of thing where you know,
(03:57):
he must spend months prepared every year, you know, turning
his house and wooded property way up in the mountains
into I don't know, like a devilish carnival or a
haunted house. You know, various themes. Amazing job, and people
come from far and wide have a great time. So
(04:18):
this guy, he plays in a hearse. He turns his
house into an attraction at Halloween. And he has written
numerous books, including one of my favorites called Tales from
the Hearse. But he has a new novel about a
young Edgar Allan Poe. It's called Edgar, and he's going
to tell you about that and more. He's got some
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strange stories.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You're about to hear.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
But before I play this interview, I want you to
know that his house was seriously damaged recently by Hurricane Helene,
and he is currently displaced and maybe for a long time.
So in our conversation on his cell phone, you will
occasionally hear a little buffering, but not too much, so
(05:04):
please understand and forgive that.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
As you know, I don't usually do.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Interviews on this show, but a conversation with him on
this show is long overdue. So here we go. Let's
get the scoop on this mysterious man. David alan Voyles,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, it is my pleasure to be here. I am
thrilled to be able to talk with you.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Isn't it funny to think that I am probably a
good ten years older than you were when you were
my English teacher.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
That is that is a mind glory, it really is.
That is great.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You know, you were one of the few teachers that
everybody always loved, including me, and it's synchronistic that a
guy like you, who is so into dark literature would
end up being my teacher for a year.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
But let's talk about your roots.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Where were you born and raised and what attracted you
to the literary field.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I was born in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I just
always had an affinity for Halloween. I loved Halloween. I
loved dark things, spooky things, and that I just never
outgrew it that that love of Halloween especially is just
something that I always look forward to, definitely the favorite holiday.
(06:30):
And so even when I started teaching. Of course, I
got my degree in literature, but I always gravitated toward
the dark stories and loved those. Those are just my favorites,
and so the classics of those, you know, worldwide, even
I would love to do and work Halloween into my curriculum.
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You know. We would have semester schedules in high school,
of course, as you recall, but in the first semester
you have Octo. So that was very easy for me
to find some literature to do there, and I would
always read a spooky story and do some fun stuff
with that. One time I stuck a rat, a fake rat,
on the back of my coat jacket and read a
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story called the Graveyard Rats and had stayed seated the
whole time, I remember, before the class was there, so
that when I got up at the end of the
story to write on the board. They would then see
the rat on the back of my jacket at the
Graveyard rat story. When I retired from teaching, because of
the Halloween and Halloween parties that we'd always had, we
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had a theme one year of having a ghost tour,
and so we have a little bit of property around
our house and I could make scenes and I could
walk around the property and tell the stories about these
scenes that I'd made up. And after that party, I
was talking with my wife and my grown son and said,
you know, people just love that kind of thing. Wouldn't
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it be cool to do that on a full time
basis and have a ghost tour? But like the walking
tour that you have, I thought, well, what if you
could do a hearse. What if you could get a
small number of people and take them around the haunted
places in Ashville and a hearse. Within a year we
had bought a nineteen seventy two Cadillac Hearse and we
had dark ride tours on the road, and you did
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get the opportunity to take a tour with us.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
As I recall, oh absolutelyely. I love the entire experience.
But you know, before we get to that was teaching
your first job or did you have jobs before that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
No, teaching was my first job. I went into it
thinking in high school. I mean from about my high
school years, I started thinking about being a teacher and
wanting to be a teacher. And this is a terrible
thing to say or to confess to, but often later,
like when they ask you, I actually got the opportunity
to serve as a Teacher of the Year for the
county and the region, But they asked you questions like
(08:52):
what inspired you to be a teacher, and I'm unfortunately,
it's usually this wonderful, great teacher. But I can remember
that in the tenth grade, I had a teach and
I sat in that classroom. I loved English and I
loved reading, and I thought, oh my god, this is
so bad. I could do a better job than this.
And that was my very arrogant sixteen year old self saying, oh, yeah,
(09:13):
I could do this. But it really did become a
thing with me. Is like, I wanted to teach, So
I knew when I went to college that I wanted
to get my teaching certificate and I wanted to teach English.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
And you didn't start publishing until after you retired.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Right, that's correct. You After thirty years of teaching and
doing the ghost tours, when the ghost tours ended because
of COVID, I thought, well, this is a good time
to I'm going to go ahead and put some of
these why not put them together in a book? And
I have started out with a series of Christmas horror stories,
because you know, after all that Christmas really needs right
(09:45):
more horror.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I had to do. I did a collection of thirteen
stories there thirteen days, thirteenth of Christmas. And I enjoyed
doing that and had a friend who was to start
doing He was already had just started helping independent writers
in the authors publish, so he helped publish that first
(10:09):
book and one or two after that, and that it began.
But it was not until then, you know, well into
my sixties that I started trying to publish. And I
just turned seventy this year.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So now getting back to the hearse and you're you know,
like you said, Lauren, and I had the honor of
being guessed in that hearse and what a unique experience
that was. You were a dressed in this dramatic costume.
Tell us about Virgil, this character that you created.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I wanted to come up with something as a character
and for Josh my son, who was the driver of that.
We started, you know, brainstorming about ideas and I thought,
I thought I'd liked the idea of being this sort
of grave digger, funeral home director teller. And then I guess,
(11:02):
going back to the roots of you know, going back
to Dante in the Inferno, I thought, you know, Virgil,
the Roman poet serves as the guide to hell for
Dante in that work, and I thought, you know, I
like the name Virgil anyway.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
And I've always liked Ray Bradberry's story Something Wicked This
Way Comes and the main character there are two boys
in the story, but one is Jim Knightshade, and I
love the name night Shade and that whole idea that
you know, poison and.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Everything about that. So Virgil Nightshade was the name that
I took for that. And my son ended up wearing
the garb of a like almost looks like a grim reaper.
But he was, you know, tall, and he's just real big,
and he seemed intimidating with this half skull mask underneath
the cow that and he was our driver, and so
he was we referred to him as Sharon the you
(11:52):
know the ferrymen of the dead and Greek mythology taking
you across so leading people into this darkness. Sing perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
When we go back to this break, he's gonna tell
you the true weird story called Maggie and the Pig Face.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
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back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network.
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I am your host, the Wizard of weird. Joshua P.
Warren beaming into your worm whole brain from.
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My studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every
day is golden and every night is silver.
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I Gietato Zume.
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His website is his name David Allenvoyls dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That's spelled d a v I d a l l
E n v O y l e.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
S dot com. When you go there, it says dark
Tales for bright minds. Let's get back to the conversation
with horror author David Allenvoyles. When I was a teenager, Uh,
you probably recall I published a book called Speaking of
Strange and it had paranormal experiences and just weird encounters
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that people from the region it had.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You published. Are you?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
You wrote a story that was published in that book
called Maggie in the Pig Face.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And I don't know if you want to recap that,
but I just want to ask you in general about
some real paranormal experiences that you've had in your life.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, that story, that is so that is such an
odd We were living out in Leices, which in an
area you know, well at that time I'm in Swanna,
Noah now and on the other side of the other
side of the county, but at that time that that
really wasn't a count and that just enough to kind
of make that story a little bit shorter. And I've
never been able to understand it exactly or come up
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with possible good explanation for it. But we had a
dog at that time, lived on about seven acres we
left at that time. The dogs run everybody did at
that point, and that dog would just travel and go
all over the place. But below us was someone who
slaughtered hogs on occasion. But we had the dog brought
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up this hogshead at one point just in you know,
it's it'd been a fresh, freshly butchered kill, and we
were getting ready to have company, and we thought, oh
my gosh, this is terrible. I took the thing and
pitched it over the fence into the woods and it
tumbled down a long hill into a ravine, and thought
we were taking care of it. But over a period
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of time, that dog kept bringing up this hog skull,
and weeks would go by, and of course you can
imagine how disgusting that was, until eventually it was just
this bleached out skull. Well after weeks had passed beyond that,
and I'm trying to get rid of it. Every time
that dog got into something, some poison or something. I
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don't prefer not to think that somebody poisoned the dog,
but it did get into poison and it died, and
I buried it on the edge of the property. We
had a long curving drive that led up to a
ranch house up on the side of the mountain there,
and I buried the dog put the little toys in there,
like some people do with their favorite toys and things.
And not too long after that, one day I was
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driving back up that driveway and making the curve back
to the house, looking at the grave because it'd often
do that. And I saw sitting there and a brown
patch of dirt that marked the grave, something white and
what in the world is that? And I got out
of the truck and went over to look on it,
and there was a hog skull sitting on top of
her grave. And I have no idea how it got there.
My wife remembers that there was another little dog that
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would sometimes come and just sit at her grave, and uh,
and I, you know, it's just it's just really odd
to think of whatever might have happened, but it does
seem like, you know, Maggie in the face. Josh was
just my son. Josh was just a little kid at
that time, and he'd uh, he'd referred to that dog
it's called as a pig face, and so he when
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when when it returns the second time, he was like, Daddy,
the pig face is back. So that was the essence
behind Maggie and the pig face. But aside from that,
I haven't had too many experiences. People often say, well,
you had this hearse. Did you ever have any experiences
with the supernatural and the hearse? Well, I've said often
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that I'm apparently about as spiritually sensitive as a brick.
You know. I just don't ever since any of the
things that other spirit sensitives do, and I'd like to,
but it just doesn't seem to happen to me. But
I have had on occasion spirit sensitives tell me about
things that were happening, especially one story about the hearse.
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If you'd like to hear that, Oh yeah, sure, when
we I don't know how long we'd had it. I'm
not sure even if we had actually begun having the
tours yet, but I knew of a woman and had
come to known her, who just convinced me even though
I am a skeptic, and I look at this and
approach it the way you do. Really you always look
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at it from the scientific point of view, as if
to disprove it and then see what can still be there.
So I'm very much a skeptic of these things, but
I had experiences with her that just made me feel
like I can't come up with any other explanation that
there are such things as spirits, that there are connections
we can have with the dead. Well, she had invited
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her over to see the hearse, I think early on
after we had gotten it and renovated it and ready
to do the tours, and so she came over. We
just opened the door, she stuck her head in it,
and I guess I should say first, we bought the
hearse from a fellow in Virginia who actually was selling
it as a part of an estate from his brother
who had passed away. His brother had owned the hearse
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and he had used it as a business and had
put Hi Fi equipment in it, stereo equipment, and he
would DJ parties. So we learned about that and we
had to do quite a bit of renovation beyond that,
because it's sat for a long time. But anyway, that's
the person that we bought it from. Well, without her
knowing any of that history, we opened the door up
for her to see her. She stuck her head in
and she said, as you recall, we had like there
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were two rows of seats, one that ran all the
way down the length of the hearse and went across
the middle, separated from the front seat. She stuck her
head in the side door and she said, well, first
of all, let me tell you, I'm hearing rock and
roll music, seventies rock and roll music, especially Creden's clear Water. Okay,
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And she said, and there's a gentleman sitting in the
corner of where these seats that you've made very happy,
very pleased, thrilled with what you're doing with the hearse,
very very large fellow, very very huge fellow. But he
loves this music. Well, I didn't know it at that time.
I didn't know that he had done these parties. But
I sent another message back after this to his brother
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who had survived, who sold us the hurst, and I said,
I just got to ask you a question. Did your
brother particularly what kind of music did he play? He said, oh, yeah,
it was definitely seventies music. But he was a real
fan of Creeden Sclarewater Uh huh. And I had seen
pictures of him. But I said, and your brother was
a pretty large man, and he said, oh yeah, he
was huge. So how she was able to zero on
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those are just not things that you can coincidentally come
up with. That just struck me as like, Okay, so
I'm glad if we're going to have a haunted hearse
that the previous owner of the hearse was at least
happy with what we were doing with it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That Yeah, that is I mean so specific. When things
like that happen, you scratch your head and you say,
how could that possibly be coincidence?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah? I know, you know, and I watch shows all
the time. I love watching these shows. But I'm you know,
I'm understanding, or I'm at least skeptic enough to go, oh,
they could have done thus, and so to find out
that information or done this kind of research or whatever,
somebody told them that they had to tell them that
this was stuff that I only I knew. I was
the only connecting point here to those two people that
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she had no idea who we had bought this from.
It was in another state. And as you say, when
you had those kinds of facts come up, it's that's
a head scratcher. It's hard to say that. Hard to
come up with any other kind of justific not justification,
explanation for it. Hard to come up with that.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And things like that just continue inspiring ideas for stories.
I mean, you've written a number of books, including your
latest novel, Edgar, and let me tell you this is impressive,
to say the least, all the way from concept to execution,
right to the last page.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Tell us about.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Edgar, I got. I had been wanting to write a
book about Edgar Allen Poe for decades. The thing that
I wanted to write, and I say this in the
introduction to the book, I have wanted to do this.
There's such a mystery about Poe's death, and everyone has,
you know, come up with all kinds of different possibilities, which,
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by the way, his death October seventh, as we're recording
this is still that's tomorrow for us right now. That
death has been fascinating of how why did he end
up where he did? And clothes there aren't even his
Most people assume assumed that he was in a drunken state,
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because that's what the people that found him thought. But
why was he there, Why was he not wearing his
own clothes? What happened to him? And I wanted to
write a story about that, But this book edgar. When
I finally came down around to sitting down to write
a book about Poe, that's not the story that came out.
For some reason, and I cannot explain it. I just
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wanted to write a story. I thought, you need to
write one about if he was a boy, with the
premise of what if all the scariest things that Poe
told about in his stories were all inspired by things
that happened to him when he was a boy at
fifteen years old living in Richmond, Virginia. Wouldn't that be
an interesting story? So that's the one I wrote. And
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I had such fun researching things about Richmond at that time,
finding out things about real people in his life that
I wanted to incorporate into the story. His relationship with
his adoptive parents, John Allen and Francis Allen, what that
would have been like. There was quite a bit of
tension that he had with his adopted father. All those
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things I wanted to work in, but I wanted to
work in his stories as well. So I took thirteen
or so of the stories and reworked them a little bit,
but had under the basic premise one of his stories
in which there is the narrator of the story, William Wilson,
is the story is a doppleganger for the narrator. He
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sees himself, and this stud covers years in the character's life,
making his life miserable. And I said, Okay, that's going
to be the premise story. The Eedgar Allen Poe has
a doubleganger and it is making his life miserable by
causing these supernatural events that will go on. And I
can work in stories, parts of post tales into the chapters,
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but make it one long cohesive tale when we.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Come back more on Edgar. And then also what happens
on Halloween Knight when you drive around in Asheville, North
Carolina in a hearse Well, he has kind of a
funny story about that as well. I'm Joshua P.
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Warren.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You're listening to strange things on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be
back after these important messages, so stick around. Welcome back
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to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I'm your host, Joshua P.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Warren, and this is the show where the unusual becomes usual. Well,
it's time for the conclusion of my conversation with author
David Allen Voyles and we were just talking about his
brand new novel called Edgar. It actually, as I was
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reading it, it inspired me to want to go back
and reread some of Poe's stories so that I could
further solidify the connections, which and that's one of the
great things about this book is that it sort of
opens up all of these other worlds of possibility.
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And let me just tell you, I don't know if
you've thought about this. I bet you have.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
When I finished reading this, I thought to myself and
a lot of people listen to this podcast, somebody out
there needs to buy the rights to this book and
turn it into a TV series about young Edgar Allan Poe.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It does. I kind of picture it that way. It
wasn't the way that I intended as I'm writing it,
but it does flow that way, and it's very episodic.
It definitely has these because each chapter, each chapter really
is going, is influenced by a particular chapter or a
story of pose. And even though it's connected all over,
it takes place over one summer. It definitely has that
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kind of episodic flow. So with a connecting theme of
this doppelganger, this dark Edgar that keeps appearing and making
Edgar Allan Poe's life miserable.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, it's it's just a wonderful book, and I hope
everybody will go read this. We're going to give out
your website to actually go ahead and give it out
right now, what's your website address?
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, it's David Alanvoyles dot com. And I spell my
Alan a little different than Edgar Allen Poe. Mine is
a L L E end, So David Alanvoyles dot com.
We did have one momentous Halloween where it was the
only time this really happened, but being an old hearse
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and somewhat questionable, it broke down on Halloween night with
customers in it, and that was unbelievable. We had two
or three we had made special tours for it, pulled
up into the Unca parking lot, which was one of
our first stops, and we knew we were had had
some questions about the Hears's mechanics at the point, but
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we thought, no, we've already got these people book for
Halloween night. It seems to be doing okay, and Josh
gave me the signal from the front seat, kind of
a line across the throat and when he turned around
to look at him after hearing a particularly loud clunk,
like nope, this tour is over, and we had to
pull into the parking lot and tell them I'm sorry,
but this hearse's died, unfortunately, and they laughed and chuckled
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ha ha haa, thinking it was part of the tour,
and had to say, this isn't part of the tour.
I'm afraid I got to call you a taxi or aneuverer.
And we got those folks. They were so nice and
so forgiving. One of the couples. We didn't realize it
at the time, but we did the same thing the
following Halloween and didn't realize that. They told me and
they said, you know, we were in that hearst that
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broke down last year. But we still loved the whole
idea of it so much that we had to do
it again, and so they got they did it and
we got the successful right out. But I will never
forget that Halloween when the hearst died.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
One of the nice things about being in the ghost
business is that when you screw up or something breaks
or whatever, you can just say, oh, I told you
ghosts were real this year.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Oh man, well.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So that opportunity give us your website once again and
anything else you'd like to say.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The floor is yours.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
The website is David allenvoyls dot com. I also invite
people to join me on Facebook for the Dark Corners page.
It's a dark Dark Corners is the name of it,
which is also the name of the podcast that I have.
I haven't been active with the podcast, but it's basically
got three seasons that you can listen to. Now I
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want to come back and revisit and add to that.
But the first season is my mention of some of
my original short stories. Season two is a novella that's
in thirteen episodes called Which Works, and the third season
is the novel in thirteen episodes as well, called Wraiths
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of the Appalachian well.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
David, the clock has got us.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But once again, you know, I think it's absolutely amazing
that I had the honor to be your student. I
knew we had a lot in common, but I did
not realize just how much at the time. And it's
been wonderful to remain your friend after all these decades,
and I know you will continue to surprise and entertain
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us with your amazing tales. So thank you so much
for being my guest.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's been a thrill. It's my pleasure as well to
be able to talk to with you and share those
stories with you, and I look forward to hearing even
more from your broadcasts as well.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
All right, once again, his website is Davidallenvoyles dot com.
Of course, you could just go to Amazon and type
in his name, and as a matter of fact, I
mean you'll find all of his books. But right now
I'm looking at Edgar when Poe's Nightmares began. I'm telling
you it's got almost five out of five. I mean
practically five out of five stars. It's like, maybe there's
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a little sliver of white, but it's basically five out
of five stars. And that's really hard to get. Nowadays,
people are so mean when they review stuff. And the
paperback's only thirteen dollars ninety nine cents and the kindle
is four ninety nine. So if you like that kind
of novel, then you should check out his work. So
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we'll see what he's up to in the future. Well,
I think it would be great if we just continued
this theme of tales from the hearse and I just
kept telling you tales that are creepy and spooky for
the rest of the show. And since it's my show,
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that is what we're gonna do. And therefore, let me
go right to right to the emails that I get.
I get some of the most interesting emails from listeners.
Here's one from Paulette. She says, Hi, Joshua, the other night,
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my husband and I were listening to your podcast. We
live in the Sierra Foothills, so we are an hour
from everywhere, so we listened to you in the car.
You were talking about your friend that passed away and
how you have a word to confirm so you knew
when it was them after they passed. Well about six
years ago. So my mother passed from colon cancer. I
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am an only child and I have three now adult children.
My mom was a paranormal sci fi fan for as
long as I can remember, and we talked about if
she ever died, she needed to let us know she
was still around. Well toward the end of mom's life,
I had to move into help her. I lived with
her about three months before she passed away at home.
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The next few days after her passing were just a
blur of making arrangements and talking with family. After five days,
my youngest daughter was in the car with me and
she looked at me and said, Mom, I'm disappointed. I
really thought Grandma was going to let us know she
was around. And I said, well, honey, I'm sad about
that too, but I guess it just as it meant
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to be. We were sitting in the driveway at my
mom's house, where I was still living, and as we
backed up, my rear sensor went off and in my
video on the screen in the car, there was a
green digital block showing there was something in the way,
and we kind of looked at each other and I
got out to investigate because there was nothing there. When
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I got back in the car, I proceeded to put
it in reverse and there it was again, that green
digital block. And we looked at each other with delight,
and my daughter said, so you think it's Grandma. I said,
I don't know, and then I said, mom, get in
the car. She went everywhere with us when.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
She was alive.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I put it in reverse again and well, no green block.
We were excited about it and talked about it all day,
and later that evening we were in the car again.
Back in the driveway. We were telling my cousin about it,
and he said, you're crazy. We proceeded to back up
and nothing. He said, it was just a fluke, and
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I said, wow, I really thought it would happen again.
I pulled back into the driveway and before I backed
out again, I said, mom, My cousin thinks I'm crazy,
Please show him what I'm talking about. We proceeded to
back up and boom. There were now two squares, one
yellow and one green. The square colors represent how close
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you are to hitting something, and my daughter and I
squealed and my cousin's eyes just got big. Wow, he said.
Then we continued on our way. It happened one more
time after that, and this time there were three blocks,
two green and one yellow. You see, my dad passed
away when I was young, and my mom's husband had
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passed several years before, and I'm convinced this electromagnetic energy
came from them. It settled my mind about the afterworld,
and in a weird way, it comforted me because I
believe the three of them are together. It never happened
again after that. That's my story, and I believe glad
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I could share this with you, sincerely, your f Paulette.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Wow, thank you, Paulette.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know what I said, I was going to tell
you a creepy story that wasn't creepy at all. That
was very inspirational. I love that story, and you know,
it kind of reminds me of this idea that sometimes
you can perhaps use your car as a ghost hunting tool.
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I mean, that's kind of what she was doing there.
She was using the car as an instrument to sense spirits.
I mean, for example, my wife, Lauren is from Texas
and her mother used to live near San Antonio, and
there's this little hill outside of San Antonio where you
can you can park your car. Well, you don't park it,
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you just put your car in neutral and all of
a sudden it will start rolling up hill or so
it sings and till it goes up and over some
railroad tracks. And the story is that some kids died
when their school bus was hit on those railroad tracks. Well,
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I have an update for you when we get back.
But hey, listen, look, I promised you a creepy story,
so I'm going to give you one. I'm going to
tell you about what one person saw upon waking up.
What would you do if you saw this at the
end of your bed, perched at the end of your
bed when you wake up in the middle of the night.
I'm Joshua PE Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on
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the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network,
and I will be right back. Welcome back to the
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final segment of this edition of Strange Things on the
iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I am your host, Joshua P. Warren.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And yeah, the story was that this busload of kids
back in the day was hit by a train. They
all died right there on the train tracks. And so
now if you go there and you put your car
in neutral, even though you're at the bottom of a
hill and the tracks are at the top of the hill,
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the car will just start rolling up the hill.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
And we did it, and it worked about thirty feet
up this slight.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Hill, onto the railroad tracks and over, and it's really
an amazing experience. And they said that if you had
talcum powder and you'd sprinkle it on the back of
your car, that when afterward you get out and you
look and you'd see the fingerprints and the talcum powder
of all the little kids. But we didn't have any
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talcum powder. But the fact of the matter is, I mean,
this is what's known as a gravity hill. It's actually
an optical illusion. It's an amazing optical illusion, though, because
it really does look like you're going uphill, and yet
somehow you're not. You're going ultimately downhill. You'll have to
look up the physics of that. And they always said
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that the reason that you would have fingerprints pop up
from the talcum powder is that you probably have a
bunch of finger prints already all over the back of
your car, all over your trunk, and you just don't
know it because you're touching it all the time. And
so when you sprinkle the talcum powder on there, you
see them and it's just you combine those two effects
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and it's really powerful. But it absolutely works as described. However,
I just looked it up and somebody has written here
that in twenty eighteen that they redid the road and
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it changed the physics of the road, so the effect
no longer occurs. Ha, how about that? That's kind of sad,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Hey, the concept is cool that you could maybe use your.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Car as a paranormal instrument. Why don't some of you
try out the experiment that Paulette did and let us
know what happens in your case. All right, Um, before
I tell you this scary story, I can't help it.
I just have a little short one here that I
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just love. It's inspirational. I gotta I gotta squeeze this
one in here before I get to this terrifying stuff.
I got this message from a man named Utah. His
name is Roy. He said, Joshua, I had terrible neuropathy
in my left leg, burning numbness and tingling sensations due
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to nerve damage. But after wearing the Tesla Purple medallion
every day, the neuropathy has vanished. After many years of suffering,
I can now touch my left leg and it feels normal,
no burning at all, simply amazing. I am shocked at
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the profound results. Miraculous. Thank you, Roy. I don't know
if you have ever experienced any kind of neuropathy, but
that is a horrible thing and I'm just that warms
my heart to know that, Roy, you have been helped
by this.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Thank you for this message. And you know.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I'm not a medical professional. I'm not out there trying
to sell snake oil or anything like that. But I'm
just reading you the email the guy got. If you
want to experiment with that kind of thing, I believe
I still have some of those Tesla purple pendants in
my curiosity shop if you go to Joshuapwarren dot com.
So I just had to squeeze that one in there. Okay,
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here is a message I got from a man he
said I could use his full name, Joseph S. Peters,
regarding an incident in Houston, Texas. Going back to Texas again,
he said, the most frightening experience a child could go
through happened to me when I was four years old.
At the time, I was living with my mother in
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an apartment that seemed to exist between our realm and
a much more frightening dimension. One night, I awoke to
find a shadow creature perched at the end of my bed.
I stood up in shock while my brain was trying
to comprehend the beast that was staring me down. It
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was blacker than night, with the appearance of a cross
between a vulture and a bat. The shadow creature spread
out its wings with a span of four to five
feet as it cried a psychic screech. The sound was
so loud and terrifying that I had tears fall from
my eyes before I actually fainted. I woke up some
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time later and noticed that the sliding door to the
closet in front of me was open. On the top
shelf in the corner stood the same demonic creature. I
jumped up, fearing for my life, begging the creature not
to scream that awful sound. I was scared by its
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screech and was willing to do anything not to hear
it again. The shadow beast then flew out of my
closet toward me, ultimately paralyzing my body. I could only
think this was the end, for surely this bat from
hell would kill me. Then, in a split second, it
turned around and flew through the door, going out in
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the hallway. Once it was gone, I regained control over
my body and I screamed out at the top of
my lungs for my mother, who was sleeping next to me.
She woke up and asked me what the problem was.
Not knowing how to describe my experience, I told her
something was in our house and that it was trying
to get me. And my mother immediately looked through every
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room to find the intruder and returned to the bed,
saying there was nothing in the apartment. This was not
the first paranormal event in the apartment, nor would it
be the last. As for the shadow creature, I can
only assume it was a demon. However it appeared to me,
and why would it appear to me, I would never know.
Before we left that place, long before we could find
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that out. Now you might say, well, this is just
coming from a four year old.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Kids are capable of seeing things that adults cannot see,
and I remember things very vividly from when I was
four years old. As a matter of fact, I've told
you this before. I remember I have memories of being
in the crib and not being able to talk. My
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very first memory that I have, I mean, I'm talking
to My very first memory was Cookie Monster, and because
my mom and dad had bought me a big, blue,
furry cookie Monster. And at whatever, I don't know what
point this happened to me, but I was a baby
who couldn't even speak their helpless in a crib, and
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I remember very clearly seeing Cookie Monster.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
And I have heard that.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
You know, you're not supposed to be able to remember
that far back, but I sure could. Here's a story
from Joe in Canton, Ohio. He says, my grandfather passed
away in the mid nineteen eighties. We sold his vehicle
as we were selling some of his possessions. My mother
and grandmother signed the title, and the new owner came
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to pick up the vehicle. They could not find the
car keys anywhere. The house was searched from top to
bottom in drawers and closets, on shelves and tables, they
were nowhere to be found. A few days later, my
mother arrived at my grandma's house and found her to
be distraught. My mother asked what was wrong, and she
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would only reply that she had found the keys. My
mother was happy to hear the news and ask where
they'd been. My grandmother replied, on the floor in the
middle of the bathroom. We certainly would have found them
quickly if they'd been their days earlier. It seemed like
Grandpa didn't want to sell the car. And now I've
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read this one to you before, but it's one of
my favorites. This came to me from Thomas Kelly, Minneapolis, Minnesota.
He says, in nineteen ninety seven, my girlfriend and I
were renting a huge, beautiful old duplex in South Minneapolis.
My girlfriend worked the night shift ten pm to seven am.
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I would go to bed just after she left her work,
and she would wake me in the morning when she
returned home. One morning, she woke me up and asked
me why there was a butcher knife in the bathtub.
I told her I had no idea, and we laughed
it off. A few weeks later, she woke me up
and asked why there were bone cutters in the bathtub,
and again we laughed it off, as the kitchen was
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adjacent to the bathroom and the butcher block knife holder
was on the counter just outside the bathroom. A month
or so later, a similar thing happened. My girlfriend asked
me why the bone cutters were in the bathroom sink.
This continued for three years, probably ten times. Somehow in
the night the cutlery would end up in the bathroom,
in the bathtub or the sink, one time in the toilet.
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One night, the butcher knife was lying the foot of
our bed. During our last weekend in the duplex, we
threw a party and invited the downstairs tenant and all
the tenants, and there was a couple who had lived
in the building for years, and when the subject of
the landlord came up, we both went white when they
told us in nineteen sixty eight, our landlord's mother had
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committed suicide in our unit in the bathtub with a
butcher knife. Okay, let's clear the air and in the show.
On a positive note, take a deep breath. If you
can't close your eyes. Here is the good fortune tone.
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