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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
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that our loved ones have survived physical debt and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. What happens
when a little girl who can see deceased people grows
up and has a near death experience. Let's dive right
in and meet the incredible doctor Mary Helen Hensley.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was the youngest of four children. My father was
a Christian minister. My very best friend when I was
a young child was my grandfather, doctor Garland Clark. He
was my mother's father from Kentucky. He was a surgeon.
He was my favorite person in the world. We spoke
all the time, He read me stories, he took me places,
He did so much. He was my closest companion. The
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only interesting catch was that Judge died when I was one,
and my parents, my father in particular, was just going
crazy because I would come in and I would talk
about what Judge that was our nickname for him, what
Judge and I had just done, What Judge had just
told me. And there were things that as a four
year old, I was telling my parents that there's no
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way I could have known unless Judge had actually told
me himself. So now my father's beginning to realize, oh,
so she sees dead people. Little me runs into the
room and I said, you know, mister Jones up the road,
it's going to die next Tuesday. And mister Jones did
die next Tuesday. My father would have lost someone from
his circle of friends or from his congregation, and he
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would need to write a eulogy and I'd help him
because I was talking to the deceased person. So we
had a lot of that going on. But it was
funny because it was always kept very quiet. One of
my first real memories of an out of body experience,
I had had them earlier on, and you know, they
didn't have a name, so I didn't know what I
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was doing. I was just flying around. I remember being
out and the perspective is very different because you're turning
back and looking at your but the only view you've
ever had of you is what you've seen on a
camera or what you've looked at in the mirror. And
I can tell you when you step outside of the
mortal coil and you're looking back at yourself, You're like, wow,
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this is so weird. It was interesting because the very
first time that I actually started traveling outside of the
body was with my grandfather Judge. He would introduce me
to people, but these people were no longer alive in
our story. They were certainly well alive in wherever he
was in that space between. Because when I would get
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these visits and I would go traveling out of body
with my grandfather. When I would see him and he
would be in front of me, he looked flesh and
blood to me. Was he a hologram? Was he some
kind of digital projection from some other realm? I don't know.
All I know is that as a child he looked real,
and these places that we went were real, and there
were sometimes I would see things and then visit them
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years later, and there's where the verification came in. I
would go, oh, my gosh, I remember being taken to
this place. My mom's going, no, you didn't. You never
were brought here as a child, and I'm like, I
swear I've seen this place. I've been here before. So
it could be upsetting sometimes because as I got a
little older, I began to realize that everybody else didn't
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see the world this way. And so I spent my
teenage years, my awkward teenage years, with this amazing gift,
and did everything I could to kind of shy away
from having the experiences because I wanted to be like
the other kids. And so I graduate from college and
communications and graphic design, and I moved to Charleston, South Carolina.
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It was December fourteenth, nineteen ninety one and I was
on my way to my company Christmas party. I jumped
in my trusty little Toyota Corolla and left my apartment.
I came down a road and I got to a
major highway, which is called Highway seventeen. My light was
red and it stayed red for a while, and then
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my light turned green and I had to cross all
the way over the traffic coming this way to make
the left to go towards town. Well. I made it
across the first couple of lanes, and then all of
a sudden, I looked and I can see this car
barreling towards me. And this is where everything changed. Time
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just slowed down, almost to a complete stop. I look
left and I just went, oh, I'm getting ready to die.
It was just very matter of fact, because all of
a sudden, in that moment, with everything creeping, you know,
when a car is coming at you at a snail's pace,
or you're not really worried about the impact that's getting
ready to make. I look at this and I go, oh,
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I've done this before. Okay, how do you want to
do this, kiddo? You know, I can stay in the
body and experience the impact and then die, or I
can go out of the body, watch the accident take place,
and watch the body die, which one. So I took
option B because I felt like I didn't need the
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experience of feeling the pain of that physical impact before death.
I felt like I suddenly got it, I knew it.
What was so fascinating at this point was the sound.
And this is why I do so much work with frequency,
because this is where my understanding of how sound and
music and light transpire. I hear this drone, It's says,
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a low drone. That's the closest sounds that I can
equate what happened when I was coming out of the body.
I have since discovered that that low frequency, and remember
low does not mean bad. The low vibe was what
was keeping my being, my essence, my soul tethered to
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the physical form. And so that low drone comes in
and I'm like, oh, okay, this is happening. I'm getting
ready to die. And suddenly I realize, oh gosh, I've
done this so many times before, and there's no fear
that it was a very matter of fact, this is happening.
I felt very in charge and very in control of
the situation. It wasn't like, oh my god, I'm too young.
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I'm only twenty one. I have so much life to live.
It wasn't like that at all. And so I'm coming
up and out of the body. And the best way
I have ever found to describe that is if someone
was outside and they were doing lawn work, or you know,
they were out in the sun, and they were hot
and they were sweaty, and they came inside and they
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peeled off those dirty, nasty clothes and they threw them
next to the washing machine, and they went up and
had the best shower ever. And they're washing all the
muck and the dirt and the grime off. The last
thing they're thinking about is the clothes next to the
washing machine. And so when you come up and out
of the body, the last thing you're thinking about is
that physical form. It's just a vehicle that the real
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you has been using to traverse this particular lifetime. But
we're so critical of the physical form because so often,
while we're here and we're deeply immersed in the experience,
we identify as the physical form. In that moment, everything
just started coming back at lightning speed. I remembered Oh
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my gosh, I'm not that body. That body is just
how I've been getting around. I am now up and out,
and everything is still going in slow motion. That sound
is still wafting through the air in the background. And
now when I have this bird's eye view and I'm
able to look down at the accident, boom, everything just
goes back to normal speed again. And I watch this
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old man plow into the side of my car. He
hits me into the driver's side. It's what they call
a t bone, So the car is crushing in here,
and I am literally spectating my own death. I watch
my head go through the window. My neck breaks, I
am pinned to the seat of the car. The seat
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folds up, glass is going into my legs, and I
was like, oh, that's interesting. There was no sense of
mourning or trying to get back into the body really quick.
It just wasn't like that, because I wasn't dead. The
body was dying. I was perfectly great and intact and
becoming a whole hell of a lot smarter than I'd
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been five seconds earlier. Because all of my memories, the
veil of forgetfulness that you have to have in order
to come here and immerse into this experience is suddenly
pulled off. I am now looking down. Cars are screeching
to a halt. And what was so fascinating and talk
about timing is Charleston at the time was probably about
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three hundred fifty thousand people in the city. Two cars
behind me at that stoplight was a girl that I
had shared the dorm with when I was in college.
She watched the entire accident take place. So here I
am out of body and I can suddenly feel her
recognizing me and the vehicle, and I could feel her pain,
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I could feel her terror, and it was so funny
because it was hers, not mine. She was the one
who was attached to the death, not me. And it's
like you want to run around and tell everybody you can't, guys.
It's just like walking through a door. There's nothing to
be afraid of here, and it's the most incredible sensation.
It was one of absolute elation. I remember why I
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came here, I remember who I am, I remember what's happening,
and I'm like bathing in this light. It was like
it was in me. Did you ever hear a piece
of music that just moves your soul like it's got
some kind of chord in it that just makes you
tangle all over. You can literally feel the piece of
music moving through you. Well, that's a little bit what
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that's like on steroids, you know. It's this feeling of
being a complete and utter part of the atmosphere around you,
of knowing all of a sudden, oh, this is what
eternal feels like, this is what I am part of
everything feels like. But the best part is you've just
come out of the human flce and you're like, oh
my god, I still know who I am. What a relief,
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because I don't care what anybody says. Part of being
human is having fear and having uncertainty. And no matter
how many times I got visited by my dead grandfather
or predicted the death of someone down the road, I
still worried as a kid that when I died, I
might forget who I had been. I would cease to exist.
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And I didn't like the idea of what I'd listened
to in church either that I'm going to be sitting
on a cloud playing a harp or something. So you're
in this space and you're bathing in this new understanding
and new remembrance of who and what you really are.
Your body's dead down there in the car, and I'm
watching all these people gathering around, because so you can imagine,
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I look dead. I'm laying there, you know, broken. I
watched the old roommate's reaction. I stayed around long enough,
and I saw the ambulance arrive. There was this guy
in a uniform. He came up. He reached through because
all the windows had blown out of the car, and
he reached through the passenger side and he turned the
ignition off. Well, I realized that this was the policeman
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that was the first to arrive on the scene. And
there was this lady and I can remember her so well,
and she was either on her way somewhere else or
she didn't really want to get involved. But I remember
her writing down her phone number and her name walking
up to the car. Now, imagine doing this. You've got
like a dead person in the car, and you walk
up and you leave your name and phone number on
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the passenger seat, just in case anybody needs to chat.
I always thought that was so weird, and even in
that moment, it really stood out to me. Well, next thing,
all of a sudden, the sound begins to change, So
we go from this kind of wah wah low drone
sound to this more beautiful orchestral I call it the
music of the spears, this symphony of sounds.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It's time for a quick break and we'll be right
back exactly where we left off. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain, and this is the incredible near death
experience of doctor Mary Helen Hensley. Last she was t
boned in a car floated above her body. Witnessed the
police officer at the scene and a random woman putting
her name and phone number in the car for the officer.
Here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Next, Well, next thing, all of a sudden, the sound
begins to change. So we go from this kind of
wall wahlow drone sound to this more beautiful or stroll
I call it the music of the spheares, this symphony
of sounds that don't sound like any kind of music
that we have here. So I can't even really adequately
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describe it to you because I've never been able to
hear it here or recreate it here. It's now changing
with my vision and my experience. So that lower drone
that I said was kind of keeping me tethered to
the body is now exchanged for this higher sound, and
now I'm no longer at the scene of the accident.
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So whosh. This is where I think other people who've
had near death experiences talk about the tunnel of light
going through this kind of light. I missed it. It
happened so quickly in this new space that I arrived in.
It was so wild because it was like the atmosphere
was palpable. It was like I was part of the
atmosphere that was around me. And here's what's really interesting.
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So long gone is my fear that you're dead and
ceased to exist. I'm like, I am tangible, I am
something I even had a sense of. I felt like
I had texture and shape. As I'm in this space,
the atmosphere all at once began to take shape in
front of me. But was like something was starting to
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form out of this texture around me. As a child,
my favorite people to hang out with obviously, you know,
my grandfather was my best pal. I loved elderly people.
My friends would want to play, and I liked going
to the nursing home and talking to the old people.
I loved being able to see the lights around them
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when they were getting ready to transition. I used to
go and sit in and hold hands with them, and
to talk to them about death as a ten year old,
go and don't be afraid. You don't have anything to
be afraid of. And so I really really just appreciated
and loved elderly people. So it was no surprise that
when these shapes started taking form in front of me,
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they came in the form of two elderly gentlemen. I
sat there for a set and I looked, and you
know that feeling when you know someone but maybe you
see them out of context. This was what it felt like.
It was like, I know these guys, but I can't
remember how I know them, and they just waited, and
they waited patiently, and then all of a sudden, it
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was like all the light bulbs went off at once,
and I was like, oh, my gosh, these are my guides.
Everybody has guides there with you from the dawn of
your existence. And what's so amazing is that we fool
ourselves into thinking when we're here in this earthplane, that
we can get low and that we are alone. You're
never ever alone. It's this sense of being encompassed in
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someone who knows your real history, someone who knows who
you are, what your mission was, what you decided to
come into the Earth realm in the first place, why
this was important to you, and they know your story.
They're always there to love and guide and support you.
So these were my two who knew me the real me,
and they were there to welcome me into this space.
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Because it is a bit of a shock when you're
coming out of the earthly realm because it's dense here, y'all.
It is dark, and that's how this realm is set up.
Earth is this dichotomy of darkness and light. This is
a space unlike any other where you can come in
and you could have just lost the love of your life,
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and the following day there is a birth of someone
precious to you, and you can feel this utter elation
and the deepest sorrow simultaneously. That's what the dichotomy of
dark and light means. That's why Earth is such an
unusual schoolhouse. This realm is set up to provide experiences
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to learn, grow and evolve within the dichotomy. But we
waste so much time trying to change the circumstances rather
than to change ourselves within them. That's the big cosmic kaha.
That's what people have missed. That's probably one of the
biggest lessons that I took back from having been dead.
So you arrive into this space and all of a sudden,
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all of that knowledge is coming back at you tenfold.
It's like you're just becoming super smart. The next thing
that happened I'm still surrounded by that sound is my
environment changes around me. And so picture yourself standing in
an imax theater and this is the next spot where
everything I thought I knew to be true got turned on.
It's ear. I am watching my life unfold, and this
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is that proverbial life review that we hear people speak of.
But what's so interesting is you're suddenly going, oh my god,
this isn't happening in linear time. I'm eleven years old
getting my first English bulldog called Atto von Bismarck, and
I'm beside myself with joy because I've been waiting for
this dog forever. I'm seventeen years old over here and
I'm drinking too much at a college party. I am
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twelve years old here dressed as P. T. Barnum, and
I am winning Living History Day in my middle school.
These are all experienceperiences. And when you sit in a
space and realize, oh my god, nothing and no one
can harm who I really am, then no one of
those experiences gets more of your attention than another. So
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not only am I standing here and my complete and
utter definition of what time and space and reality are
I am standing in all going, I am all of
these things and none of these things. All at the
same time, I was in utter disbelief. I was in awe.
I'm fifty four years old now. I have been telling
this story for I was what twenty one when this happens,
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So over thirty something years, I'm telling the story, and
I can tell you right now the little hairs are
standing up on my arms on my own story, and
the enthusiasm and the excitement that I tell you these
aren't feigned. This is not put on. I am so
excited to sit here and tell you for the ten
thousandth time people that you've got absolutely nothing to be
afraid of. As I'm in this space and I'm watching
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my life and now I've made it twenty one years
is Mary Helen Hensley, the good, the bad, the ugly,
and there was a lot of it. I had this
amazing childhood. I grew up in this kind of awkward
teenage years. I went off, I was a party girl
in college, had a really great time, ran off to Charleston,
South Carolina with my sweetheart. This is when I realized
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it's not about the quantity of time. It's about the
quality of life. The ultimate goal for your soul is
to come in here and have this immersive, in depth,
rich experience. What I also realized is that the guides
that were there with me the whole time that we're
in communication, nobody's mouth is moving. This is something where
we are just knowing each other. We're sitting in the
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space and there is you know, if you want to
call it telepathic whatever, but there was just a knowing,
this communication between us where no words had to be spoken.
I often find in dream time and in out of
body experiences this is the same way that communications will
take place quite often as well. It's been interesting is
that has carried forward into my life because people always
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want to know how did you get back in Well,
there was this moment and I still remember it distinctly,
when I realized that I wasn't done. I'm not finished.
Oh and I'm the one who created this. I'm looking
around and I've just gone through this review of my
own life, and I was like, wait a second. I
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was told in the Southern Baptist Church that there was
going to be a judgment, and guess what, guys, nobody
was judging me but me. I was critiquing my performance.
I didn't realize this tiny little thing that I had
done had made such a huge impact over here where
I was thinking I was so awesome because I had
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done this and it really had very little impact on something.
I was watching and critiquing my own performance with such love,
as if you're watching someone who's not you, because it's
actually only a piece of you. As these beings and
I are communicating with one another, they communicate to me,
you do realize you can go back, And I was like,
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I'm not finished here, and I realized it wasn't because
I had to come in and save the world. My
whole mission is to share the story. I'm still learning.
I needed to get back in here. Because with every
person that I communicate with, with every healing session that
I do, with every word that I write, I'm healing. Now.
One of the beautiful side effects of that is that
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I get to tell the story over and over and
help people through their own fears. And that's a wonderful
way to live life. But when I was coming back,
they said to me that they were going to have
to set the bar a little higher. I was going
to come back as if I wasn't weird enough with
some new gifts. And so I crashed back into my
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body at lightning speed, back into a body that was
completely broken. And when I finally awakened in the er
in the hospital, and I didn't even realize my neck
was broken, and this man walks into the room and
he was wearing a uniform and he had a little
notebook and the very first thing that he said to
me was your one lucky little lady. And then all
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of a sudden, I realized, Hey, I know you, And
he kind of tilted his head and he was like, no, no, no,
I said, I do. You were at the accident, And
he's like, how could you know that you were the
one who reached in and you turned the engine off.
Now he's freaking and I was like, did you check
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with my roommate? She was a couple of cars behind me,
and like he's like kind of inching back away from
me right Like, what is actually happening right now? I said,
there was this strange lady that came up and put
her name and phone number on the passenger side of
the car. She reached in through and left it on
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the seat. Did you get that? Did you get in
contact with her? Now he's closing the little notebook and
he's looking at me and his eyes are full of
tears and he is like, there is no way you
could know this. And it was that moment where you
could hear a pendra because he was realizing something and
I was realizing something at the same time. I just
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sat there with my mouth hanging open. I had no
other words. And he's backing out of the room, going
what is actually happening right now? Because he was the
one who saw the dead body, he was the one
who called the ambulance. I have now awakened and told
him everything from a bird's eye view that there's no
way I could have seen. So you find yourself having
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to completely reinvent your version of reality. Everything that you
thought to be true isn't. It's actually so much better now.
I'm like, Okay, time does not exist the way that
we think that it does. People have multiple timeline. There's
this happening simultaneously. Oh my gosh. So I'm starting to
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reinvent and take in all this new information and had
to come back into a three D physical form and
live it. Talk about a challenge, because you're so in
awe and you're so excited. Do you realize what we
got here?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
That story just gave me goosebumps? No, I don't think
we realize what we've got here, but we're going to
find out more of what we do have. We'll be
right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on
the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome
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back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine. You're
listening to the near death experience of doctor Mary Helen
Hensley and she just freaked out the police officer that
she experienced everything on that scene from a bird's eye view.
Let's continue.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Do you realize what we've got here? And you're walking
around and you see these people and they're so sad,
and they're so miserable, and they're so heartbroken and they're
grief stricken and they're worried about the electricity bill and
they don't know how to feed the child. And it's
like there's so much pain and angst around and I'm like, no, no,
you don't understand. That's not your soul. Your soul who
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you actually are, puts you in and custom ordered that experience,
that pain, that heartbreak, that disease, that whatever it is,
so that you could gather some little piece of information
that you needed. Because this is only one of multiple
experiences of you. And this is why when we're mean
to each other, those eight billions and other versions of
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you that are walking around on this planet, you're just
dissing yourself. If you let yourself down by being cruel
or harsh or awful to somebody else, you're just projecting
that onto some other version of you. And this answers
that question of how is God in all places at once,
because we're fractals of the same hole. When my grandfather
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appeared to me, this apparition appears in front of me
and is giving me information about something that's going to
happen in my perceived future. Imagine, now you're twenty two
years old, you've been dead, you come back, and you've
got to go integrate into the world again. My dead
grandfather pops up and he says to me, Hey, we're
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sending you to chiropractic school. And I was like, uh uh,
I had just graduated from college. I was not going
back to school. But he said, we're sending you back
to school because you need to understand life. I'm a
vitalistic philosophy and I'm like, I don't even know what
that means. You have just experienced the interaction of the mind,
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the body, in the spirit, and you have just learned
firsthand that one does not exist without the other. Okay, well,
you're going to be teaching people and working with people
as they start to unravel and learn this as well.
So you're going to go and you're going to get
an education about how the mind and the body and
the spirit cannot be separated in order to have a
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complete human experience. This body is here to serve you,
and you don't forget that your body is perfectly capable
of serving your soul's purpose. So I'm going through and
I'm now interacting with people differently, and suddenly I realize
that this extra little gift that they were talking about
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was I now had the capacity to touch someone initially.
Now I don't have to do it. It's an energy
exchange and download their hard drive. And so someone can
be suffering with something, whether it's physical or emotional, in
this timeline, which has actually taken place in some other
version of themselves, be it a past projection of future projection,
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but something that has taken them at a present time.
And the most important thing to remember is that's just
a chemical reaction. Right now, Right here, me, sitting here
talking to you is my present time. And so the
only way I can conjure trauma or fear about something
that has already taken place is through a chemical reaction
in my brain. The saying goes for fear and projection
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into the future. Oh my god, what if this doesn't happen,
What if I don't get this? What if this happens.
It's a chemical reaction. The only thing that is real
in your creation is right now, and you, the creator,
are constantly creating. You're taking in the stimulus that's all
around you, and conjuring these outcomes, these experiences in order
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to further your own growth. And it's been mind blowing
and it's been amazing, and it's been, oh my gosh,
exhausting sometimes when you're the only cat in the room
who knows and you're trying to explain something that someone
has never felt or seen or heard before. But I
can tell you what. I'm going to go to my
grave trying shouting from the rooftops to tell people you
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already are that which you seek, and you absolutely can't
mess up here. You cannot mess this thing up. I
spoke in the beginning about how my father was the
big Burley American football player, and he was a minister,
and he spent his entire career explaining to people about
the wonders of heaven and God. And he never talked
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about the fire and brimstone. He wasn't that kind of preacher.
He never preached hell. He always chose to focus on
your potential and what he expected you to move towards,
as opposed to what was going to happen if he
screwed up. And so people really always enjoyed listening to him.
But as my father went from dementia and transitioned into Alzheimer's,
biggest thing he was challenged with was this horrid fear
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of death. And I thought, how curious this guy spent
his entire life standing in poolpits, working on the football pitch,
working with people to try and alleviate their fear of
death by preaching what he felt was the one way
ticket to salvation, which, by the way, guys, there's no
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such thing as one way, so many people will go.
She never said anything about Jesus. Well, you know what,
I was raised with Jesus. But Jesus, like everything else,
is a consciousness. It's a state of being. It's an evolution,
so is the Buddha energies. In the history of this realm,
there have been many Messiah figures who have come through
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here to bring people into a state of evolution and consciousness,
and I believe it resides within all of us. Here's
why this story is important. My father, the Christian minister
who has believed in this concept of heaven and hell
and taught based on the spiritual scriptures that support this.
He's in his room at the nursing home, and he'd
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had a particularly tough day, and he was shuffling around
and he had Sundowner syndrome, which means this very gentle,
giant and peace loving man would get violent and he
would have these waves of horrible emotion he couldn't express.
He was a beautiful orator, he was such a fabulous
public speaker, and he'd lost his ability to speak, so
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all he could do was babble. And so there was
this one day that he'd had a really, really tough time,
and my mother and I were in the nursing home.
We were watching him and he was shuffling back and forth.
It had been months since he had said a coherent word,
and he lays down in the bed. He starts reaching up.
He's reaching for the ceiling, and she's looking at me like,
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is he getting ready to die? What's going on. One
of the interesting things that I can see is what
the energy field around an individual looks like. Everything has
a field. When someone is getting ready to pass out
of the physical form, it looks like fireworks. It's not
like you'd think like a dimmer switch and the lights
are going down. It's quite the opposite. Everything's like exploding
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around them as the energy is gearing up to exit
the body. It's gorgeous to look at. And I'm looking
at my dad and I'm like, no, Mom, there's no fireworks.
Nothing's happening around him. So he's in the bed and
he's smiling, he's beaming, and he's reaching up and he says,
as clear as I'm talking to you right now, I
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can see it. I can see it. My mom's looking
at me. Your eyes are like saucers. And I'm like, Dad,
you know, because we haven't had a coherent word out
of him in months. And he said, hey, sugar, and
I said what's going on? And he said, I can
see it the land beyond the river. I ended up
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naming a book that because I just thought that was
just so phenomenal. He was like, it's so beautiful here.
And then he goes, I can see mama. She looks
so young, and so he's relaying this experience of seeing
his own mother and he is just marveling in her
beauty and her youthfulness. And then he stops and the
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man looks like a deer in headlights, and he goes, oh,
my gosh, daddy's here. My father's greatest fear was that
his father, who, by my dad's very strict Christian standards,
did not cut the mustard. My father had worried his
entire life about the soul of his own father. He
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thought he took the downward escalator rather than the up.
So the experiences that he had had in his life
that my father did not deem honorable or being a
good father or being a good person. Even my father
had convinced himself that his dad didn't make it. So
now all of a sudden, in this beautiful s he's
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looking at not only his mother but at his father,
and he's laughing and tears are just pouring down his face.
He looks over at my mom and he's reaching out
to her, and he goes, Helen, I've had it wrong
all along. Everybody's welcome here. You can't mess this thing up.
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And you want to talk about a mic drop moment
in my life, she who's been dead and come back.
It was right there witnessing this man who thought and
fell for and lived through the illusion of the separation
created by a heaven and a hell that the good
people get to go and the bad people don't, And like,
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who gets to determine where that cut off? Line is
it all just fell away. And in that moment, my
father was free, and he got to see that everything
that he had known, and everything that he had loved,
and everything that he had hoped for, it was there
in the land beyond the river, and it was available
to each and every one of us. You are here
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to provide and be provided for experientially. You can't mess
this thing up. When I'm working with people in healing sessions,
and when I say to you that I can download
someone's hard drive and I can figure out why they've
got this particular disease or why their depression is setting in.
And when I'm pinpointing a time and a place, it
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plays like a movie. In my head. It again looks
like a cinema screen. As I'm in and I'm watching
and I'm feeling and I'm downloading and understanding, it's something
that i'm watching that is a real experience. That's the
same way that it works with you know, when you're
seeing an operation. So someone could be laying on my
healing table and we're in communication with their dead mother,
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and the dead mother isn't physically in the room, but
the impression or the footprint and the information is in
the room and I'm able to read that, and so
they will appear if they have something valuable to contribute
to that person's life, something that might help get them
out of a space where they're stuck in a cycle
of grief, or a piece of information that's going to
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help them move forward with their lives. It's never to
come back and go, oh, I'm missiataribly honeak. You know,
that's not how it works, and that's not real because
when you're out of the body, you're completely aware of
how all of this works. They're completely aware that they
were a character in your story and the only way
that you could have the experience that you had, whether
it be good, bad, or indifferent, was if they played
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that role for you. So they're hardly going to sit
in some other realm and apologize for showing up for
something that you asked for or that you needed in
order to complete your experience here. And sometimes that's the message.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Sometimes that's the message. Wow, having compassion for people in
your life, even those that may have done you wrong.
Powerful words more inspiration from doctor Hensley. When we get back,
you're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast am Pironormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
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to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. To find
out more about doctor Hensley and her books, you can
visit her website, Mary Helenhensley dot com. Let's continue with
some more inspiring words.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I laugh because a lot of people will walk out
of my room their headshaking, going, well, that was not
what I expected. But one thing about me is that
I am not going to sit and tell somebody something
that they want to hear just to appease them or
to whatever. I want them to understand and to think
and to grow and to be in riched by that interaction.
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What I'm trying to do is give them a deeper
connection to their understanding of why they are here and
why some of the uncomfortable things are, the grief or
the pain that they're going through, why that's actually happening.
That's when you're helping someone to heal. It's whatever the
individual needs in order to move forward in their own story.
Most people do have mystical experiences, and it happens to
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a lot of people at night because it's the only
time that they can actually digest they're thinking, oh, dreams
are nothing. Dreams are just the brain just blowing off
information whatever, and they don't understand that they're actually going
to bed and having their mystical experiences. They might not
live in a world that allows them to digest the metaphysical,
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so these things happen to them at night and they
come in the form of those dreams or those out
of body experiences. There. So we have to start rethinking
what we think we know, because a lot of the
information that we've been told about how the world works
is completely and utterly different than what's actually true. It's
really exciting to me right now as this kind of
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knowledge begins to unfold and people start to wake up
and realize it. We're so much more than the old
meat suit. You're never alone. Ever you might think you are.
Your experience might take you into the bottom of the barrel.
And what you've got to realize is that's of your
own doing. And that nudge that you get, that feeling
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that pulls you out of a state of hopelessness, that
little come on, you can do it when you don't
feel like getting up and putting one foot in front
of the other. That's the help you're getting from outside.
That can come in the form of somebody who's gone
on before you, that can come in the form of
a guide. There are so many different ways that you
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can be influenced. It's just about practicing and listening. It's
available to each and every one of us. It's about
keeping that channel over and allowing yourself to hear. And
this is why clearing interference every single day is essential.
It's like the radio station could be playing that song
and it's traveling across the waves, no problem, but you
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could be driving down a backcountry road with poor reception.
That doesn't mean that the tower's not sending the signal.
It means that your capacity to receive the signal is
altered because of your location. Well, your physical emotional state
of being can be altered as well, meaning that you
are not receiving the signals, and so it's essential that
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people clean and clear. This is where frequency can come in,
so you know, like eight hundred and fifty two hertz,
it's like an internal GPS eight five ' two allows
you to connect to your higher self and guess who's
hanging out with your higher self any other higher selves
that are there to help assist you. You can sit
in a space and go, hey, I need to really
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get myself back on track here and I need to
be able to hear this guidance. Do you know twenty
eight Hurtz resonates with human DNA. You're dealing with an illness.
You can sit in that frequency and altered this state
of your actual physical DNA. And so when someone starts
practicing with frequency, it is working with this technology where
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you are taking someone and altering the state of the
brain wave, altering the state of the frequencies that are
going into the body. You're using it to clear to
ring out that full sponge so that you're starting the
day with a clean slate as opposed to carrying everything
from yesterday in because the more stuff you're carrying from yesterday,
the harder it is to hear the signal. So you
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have the same capacity to heal and to connect with
that loving guidance as anybody else. People have to have
their own experiences, and they're unfolding in their own version
and understanding, and they're growing at their own speed. I
get that, But part of sharing information with people is
giving them a different perspective and giving them another way
to be able to interact with the world that might
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actually be more joyful or might be more productive in
their learning. Because while fear can be very useful, the
most common thing that happens here is people. They set
up camp there, They pitch a tent, start roasting marshmallows,
you know, and they live in this fear. I always
say to people, it's important to give fear and anxiety
a voice, but never a vote. A lot of people
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will stop me at that stage and go, why on earth,
if a soul is coming from this space of love
and light and perfection and awesomeness, why would you come
here for that? I say, it's simple. Why would you
pull out the monopoly board when your family or friends
come over, And why would you literally sit and pretend
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to be a silver shoe or a dog and think
that you can actually buy a piece of property with
a five hundred dollars pink bill. Because it's fun and
it's immersive, and it's competitive, and it's something you enjoy
doing with the people that you love, and you learn
and you laugh life, and you grow and you get
mad and you're like, why am I mad? Those waterworks
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aren't even real? He stole my property. He didn't really
steal your property. It's giving you the chance to work
through and express these emotions that are native to we
as human beings. And so ask anyone who's ever put
a quarter around their ankle and bungee jumped off a bridge,
why in the hell would you do that? And they're like,
because it's a rush, it's exhilarating, it's amazing, and it's
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not something that a beautiful, omnipotent, eternal soul that's not
encompassing a physical body, that's not something they can do.
We crave these experiences. You might not remember this in
the physical you might not remember this with your regular
conscious mind, but that eternal, omnipotent soul that you really are,
who knows that nothing and no one can harm who
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you really are. Yeah, you were like, bring it on.
I need to experience this in order to grow, to move,
and to evolve into the being that I want to be.
And sometimes experience is uncomfortable, sometimes the body gets sick.
But what people don't realize is these bodies, these programs,
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these experiences that we have are here showing up for us.
So the body is perfectly calculated to let you know
when you're screwing up, to let you know when you're
off target, to let you know that your goal that
you've set for yourself is over here, and you have
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veered off track. You're giving too much of your time
and attention away to somebody else, or something else, or
some stress or some worry. You need your undivided attention
right now. And if the only way you are going
to listen to yourself is for me to smack you
to bring all of your time and attention and energy
back to yourself, then how valuable is that. But we've
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made that the enemy. And the reason we make that
the enemy or the uncomfortable experiences, is because we fear death.
And so the whole reason for my being, the whole
joy that I have in coming back into this world
and spending the last thirty three years telling people how
amazing it is to die, is because I want them
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to live, and I want them to understand that all
this time and all this effort and all this terror
and all of this angst that they have about what
they fear in the unknown, they already are that which
they seek. One of the things I'm asked most often
is when people look at the state of the world
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right now, and they're like, this is the worst time
in history. No, it's not. Every point in humanity has
had moments like these, and these are essential to the
human experience. And I want people to remember that because
when they're fearful of Oh my god, but what are
my children growing up into? Well, you know what, imagine
my mom who was born in nineteen twenty nine and
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was a teenager moving into World War Two. Imagine what
she would have thought when she looked at the world.
They've just exploded a nuclear bomb. Nobody knows what's happening.
Everybody's freaking out. Well, guess what. You go back in
history and there isn't going to be a time in
history where everything was all rosy. Here. It's just not
the way that this plane is set up. And you
need to try and remember that that you're here to
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make the best of the experience that we're having. Now.
You are in a playground, a schoolhouse of immense opportunity
to improve and better yourself. And I'll remind you, you
know what, you want to keep it real. Call bs
on yourself when you hear yourself saying something doing something
that you know is not in alignment with who you
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want to become and call yourself out. Don't wait for
somebody else to do it, change tact and do something different.
That's how we regain control when we feel completely helpless,
when we feel at a loss, when we feel like
the world is crumbling around us. So many people live
in that really sick cycle. And so what I encourage
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you to do is to inject everything, infuse every moment
with gratitude. It really does work. I know it sounds trite,
you know, and it's like, oh, yeah, there's the gratitude again.
But when you stay in a place of gratitude, it
is so hard for you to get pulled into that negativity,
for you to get pulled into that darkness, because we're
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surrounded by that. But like I said, you're not meant
to set up camp there. You're meant to go in,
experience it, visit it, and leave it again. But people
will hook onto and identify with something that feels low,
feels bad, feels horrible, and gives them a reason not
to show up. And so I think it's really really
important that you step into each moment with gratitude and
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that you show up and it's not for everybody else.
I'm not doing this just so everybody else can hear
what I have to say. I'm doing this because I
need to hear this. I'm telling my own story because
I need to hear what I'm saying. I need to
be reminded on a daily basis that I got to
temporaryly die so that I could step out and change
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it up and come back in here and use everything
that is available to me in this experience to its max.
That's the story I'm sharing. So just go do it.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Just go do it, just go live it, and just
go experience it. It's all about the experiences. If you
like near death experiences, I want to offer you some
different sources. First of all, our friends at IMS dot
org that's the International Association for Near Death Studies. And
I've also found a gentleman named Anthony Shen spelled.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
C h E n E.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
He's got a YouTube channel, he's got a website Anthonyshen
dot com. He's a good resource. Also, I have compiled
a list of past shades of the afterlife episodes, so
you can go to the category near death experiences, deathbed visitations,
signs from loved ones, dreams, children, pets, automatic writing, and
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On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
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that our loved ones have survived physical debt and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. What happens
when a little girl who can see deceased people grows
up and has a near death experience. Let's dive right
in and meet the incredible doctor Mary Helen Hensley.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was the youngest of four children. My father was
a Christian minister. My very best friend when I was
a young child was my grandfather, doctor Garland Clark. He
was my mother's father from Kentucky. He was a surgeon.
He was my favorite person in the world. We spoke
all the time, He read me stories, he took me places,
He did so much. He was my closest companion. The
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only interesting catch was that Judge died when I was one,
and my parents, my father in particular, was just going
crazy because I would come in and I would talk
about what Judge that was our nickname for him, what
Judge and I had just done, What Judge had just
told me. And there were things that as a four
year old, I was telling my parents that there's no
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way I could have known unless Judge had actually told
me himself. So now my father's beginning to realize, oh,
so she sees dead people. Little me runs into the
room and I said, you know, mister Jones up the road,
it's going to die next Tuesday. And mister Jones did
die next Tuesday. My father would have lost someone from
his circle of friends or from his congregation, and he
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would need to write a eulogy and I'd help him
because I was talking to the deceased person. So we
had a lot of that going on. But it was
funny because it was always kept very quiet. One of
my first real memories of an out of body experience,
I had had them earlier on, and you know, they
didn't have a name, so I didn't know what I
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was doing. I was just flying around. I remember being
out and the perspective is very different because you're turning
back and looking at your but the only view you've
ever had of you is what you've seen on a
camera or what you've looked at in the mirror. And
I can tell you when you step outside of the
mortal coil and you're looking back at yourself, You're like, wow,
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this is so weird. It was interesting because the very
first time that I actually started traveling outside of the
body was with my grandfather Judge. He would introduce me
to people, but these people were no longer alive in
our story. They were certainly well alive in wherever he
was in that space between. Because when I would get
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these visits and I would go traveling out of body
with my grandfather. When I would see him and he
would be in front of me, he looked flesh and
blood to me. Was he a hologram? Was he some
kind of digital projection from some other realm? I don't know.
All I know is that as a child he looked real,
and these places that we went were real, and there
were sometimes I would see things and then visit them
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years later, and there's where the verification came in. I
would go, oh, my gosh, I remember being taken to
this place. My mom's going, no, you didn't. You never
were brought here as a child, and I'm like, I
swear I've seen this place. I've been here before. So
it could be upsetting sometimes because as I got a
little older, I began to realize that everybody else didn't
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see the world this way. And so I spent my
teenage years, my awkward teenage years, with this amazing gift,
and did everything I could to kind of shy away
from having the experiences because I wanted to be like
the other kids. And so I graduate from college and
communications and graphic design, and I moved to Charleston, South Carolina.
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It was December fourteenth, nineteen ninety one and I was
on my way to my company Christmas party. I jumped
in my trusty little Toyota Corolla and left my apartment.
I came down a road and I got to a
major highway, which is called Highway seventeen. My light was
red and it stayed red for a while, and then
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my light turned green and I had to cross all
the way over the traffic coming this way to make
the left to go towards town. Well. I made it
across the first couple of lanes, and then all of
a sudden, I looked and I can see this car
barreling towards me. And this is where everything changed. Time
(05:21):
just slowed down, almost to a complete stop. I look
left and I just went, oh, I'm getting ready to die.
It was just very matter of fact, because all of
a sudden, in that moment, with everything creeping, you know,
when a car is coming at you at a snail's pace,
or you're not really worried about the impact that's getting
ready to make. I look at this and I go, oh,
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I've done this before. Okay, how do you want to
do this, kiddo? You know, I can stay in the
body and experience the impact and then die, or I
can go out of the body, watch the accident take place,
and watch the body die, which one. So I took
option B because I felt like I didn't need the
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experience of feeling the pain of that physical impact before death.
I felt like I suddenly got it, I knew it.
What was so fascinating at this point was the sound.
And this is why I do so much work with frequency,
because this is where my understanding of how sound and
music and light transpire. I hear this drone, It's says,
(06:24):
a low drone. That's the closest sounds that I can
equate what happened when I was coming out of the body.
I have since discovered that that low frequency, and remember
low does not mean bad. The low vibe was what
was keeping my being, my essence, my soul tethered to
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the physical form. And so that low drone comes in
and I'm like, oh, okay, this is happening. I'm getting
ready to die. And suddenly I realize, oh gosh, I've
done this so many times before, and there's no fear
that it was a very matter of fact, this is happening.
I felt very in charge and very in control of
the situation. It wasn't like, oh my god, I'm too young.
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I'm only twenty one. I have so much life to live.
It wasn't like that at all. And so I'm coming
up and out of the body. And the best way
I have ever found to describe that is if someone
was outside and they were doing lawn work, or you know,
they were out in the sun, and they were hot
and they were sweaty, and they came inside and they
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peeled off those dirty, nasty clothes and they threw them
next to the washing machine, and they went up and
had the best shower ever. And they're washing all the
muck and the dirt and the grime off. The last
thing they're thinking about is the clothes next to the
washing machine. And so when you come up and out
of the body, the last thing you're thinking about is
that physical form. It's just a vehicle that the real
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you has been using to traverse this particular lifetime. But
we're so critical of the physical form because so often,
while we're here and we're deeply immersed in the experience,
we identify as the physical form. In that moment, everything
just started coming back at lightning speed. I remembered Oh
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my gosh, I'm not that body. That body is just
how I've been getting around. I am now up and out,
and everything is still going in slow motion. That sound
is still wafting through the air in the background. And
now when I have this bird's eye view and I'm
able to look down at the accident, boom, everything just
goes back to normal speed again. And I watch this
(08:34):
old man plow into the side of my car. He
hits me into the driver's side. It's what they call
a t bone, So the car is crushing in here,
and I am literally spectating my own death. I watch
my head go through the window. My neck breaks, I
am pinned to the seat of the car. The seat
(08:55):
folds up, glass is going into my legs, and I
was like, oh, that's interesting. There was no sense of
mourning or trying to get back into the body really quick.
It just wasn't like that, because I wasn't dead. The
body was dying. I was perfectly great and intact and
becoming a whole hell of a lot smarter than I'd
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been five seconds earlier. Because all of my memories, the
veil of forgetfulness that you have to have in order
to come here and immerse into this experience is suddenly
pulled off. I am now looking down. Cars are screeching
to a halt. And what was so fascinating and talk
about timing is Charleston at the time was probably about
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three hundred fifty thousand people in the city. Two cars
behind me at that stoplight was a girl that I
had shared the dorm with when I was in college.
She watched the entire accident take place. So here I
am out of body and I can suddenly feel her
recognizing me and the vehicle, and I could feel her pain,
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I could feel her terror, and it was so funny
because it was hers, not mine. She was the one
who was attached to the death, not me. And it's
like you want to run around and tell everybody you can't, guys.
It's just like walking through a door. There's nothing to
be afraid of here, and it's the most incredible sensation.
It was one of absolute elation. I remember why I
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came here, I remember who I am, I remember what's happening,
and I'm like bathing in this light. It was like
it was in me. Did you ever hear a piece
of music that just moves your soul like it's got
some kind of chord in it that just makes you
tangle all over. You can literally feel the piece of
music moving through you. Well, that's a little bit what
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that's like on steroids, you know. It's this feeling of
being a complete and utter part of the atmosphere around you,
of knowing all of a sudden, oh, this is what
eternal feels like, this is what I am part of
everything feels like. But the best part is you've just
come out of the human flce and you're like, oh
my god, I still know who I am. What a relief,
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because I don't care what anybody says. Part of being
human is having fear and having uncertainty. And no matter
how many times I got visited by my dead grandfather
or predicted the death of someone down the road, I
still worried as a kid that when I died, I
might forget who I had been. I would cease to exist.
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And I didn't like the idea of what I'd listened
to in church either that I'm going to be sitting
on a cloud playing a harp or something. So you're
in this space and you're bathing in this new understanding
and new remembrance of who and what you really are.
Your body's dead down there in the car, and I'm
watching all these people gathering around, because so you can imagine,
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I look dead. I'm laying there, you know, broken. I
watched the old roommate's reaction. I stayed around long enough,
and I saw the ambulance arrive. There was this guy
in a uniform. He came up. He reached through because
all the windows had blown out of the car, and
he reached through the passenger side and he turned the
ignition off. Well, I realized that this was the policeman
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that was the first to arrive on the scene. And
there was this lady and I can remember her so well,
and she was either on her way somewhere else or
she didn't really want to get involved. But I remember
her writing down her phone number and her name walking
up to the car. Now, imagine doing this. You've got
like a dead person in the car, and you walk
up and you leave your name and phone number on
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the passenger seat, just in case anybody needs to chat.
I always thought that was so weird, and even in
that moment, it really stood out to me. Well, next thing,
all of a sudden, the sound begins to change, So
we go from this kind of wah wah low drone
sound to this more beautiful orchestral I call it the
music of the spears, this symphony of sounds.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It's time for a quick break and we'll be right
back exactly where we left off. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(13:28):
I'm Sandra Champlain, and this is the incredible near death
experience of doctor Mary Helen Hensley. Last she was t
boned in a car floated above her body. Witnessed the
police officer at the scene and a random woman putting
her name and phone number in the car for the officer.
Here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Next, Well, next thing, all of a sudden, the sound
begins to change. So we go from this kind of
wall wahlow drone sound to this more beautiful or stroll
I call it the music of the spheares, this symphony
of sounds that don't sound like any kind of music
that we have here. So I can't even really adequately
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describe it to you because I've never been able to
hear it here or recreate it here. It's now changing
with my vision and my experience. So that lower drone
that I said was kind of keeping me tethered to
the body is now exchanged for this higher sound, and
now I'm no longer at the scene of the accident.
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So whosh. This is where I think other people who've
had near death experiences talk about the tunnel of light
going through this kind of light. I missed it. It
happened so quickly in this new space that I arrived in.
It was so wild because it was like the atmosphere
was palpable. It was like I was part of the
atmosphere that was around me. And here's what's really interesting.
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So long gone is my fear that you're dead and
ceased to exist. I'm like, I am tangible, I am
something I even had a sense of. I felt like
I had texture and shape. As I'm in this space,
the atmosphere all at once began to take shape in
front of me. But was like something was starting to
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form out of this texture around me. As a child,
my favorite people to hang out with obviously, you know,
my grandfather was my best pal. I loved elderly people.
My friends would want to play, and I liked going
to the nursing home and talking to the old people.
I loved being able to see the lights around them
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when they were getting ready to transition. I used to
go and sit in and hold hands with them, and
to talk to them about death as a ten year old,
go and don't be afraid. You don't have anything to
be afraid of. And so I really really just appreciated
and loved elderly people. So it was no surprise that
when these shapes started taking form in front of me,
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they came in the form of two elderly gentlemen. I
sat there for a set and I looked, and you
know that feeling when you know someone but maybe you
see them out of context. This was what it felt like.
It was like, I know these guys, but I can't
remember how I know them, and they just waited, and
they waited patiently, and then all of a sudden, it
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was like all the light bulbs went off at once,
and I was like, oh, my gosh, these are my guides.
Everybody has guides there with you from the dawn of
your existence. And what's so amazing is that we fool
ourselves into thinking when we're here in this earthplane, that
we can get low and that we are alone. You're
never ever alone. It's this sense of being encompassed in
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someone who knows your real history, someone who knows who
you are, what your mission was, what you decided to
come into the Earth realm in the first place, why
this was important to you, and they know your story.
They're always there to love and guide and support you.
So these were my two who knew me the real me,
and they were there to welcome me into this space.
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Because it is a bit of a shock when you're
coming out of the earthly realm because it's dense here, y'all.
It is dark, and that's how this realm is set up.
Earth is this dichotomy of darkness and light. This is
a space unlike any other where you can come in
and you could have just lost the love of your life,
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and the following day there is a birth of someone
precious to you, and you can feel this utter elation
and the deepest sorrow simultaneously. That's what the dichotomy of
dark and light means. That's why Earth is such an
unusual schoolhouse. This realm is set up to provide experiences
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to learn, grow and evolve within the dichotomy. But we
waste so much time trying to change the circumstances rather
than to change ourselves within them. That's the big cosmic kaha.
That's what people have missed. That's probably one of the
biggest lessons that I took back from having been dead.
So you arrive into this space and all of a sudden,
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all of that knowledge is coming back at you tenfold.
It's like you're just becoming super smart. The next thing
that happened I'm still surrounded by that sound is my
environment changes around me. And so picture yourself standing in
an imax theater and this is the next spot where
everything I thought I knew to be true got turned on.
It's ear. I am watching my life unfold, and this
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is that proverbial life review that we hear people speak of.
But what's so interesting is you're suddenly going, oh my god,
this isn't happening in linear time. I'm eleven years old
getting my first English bulldog called Atto von Bismarck, and
I'm beside myself with joy because I've been waiting for
this dog forever. I'm seventeen years old over here and
I'm drinking too much at a college party. I am
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twelve years old here dressed as P. T. Barnum, and
I am winning Living History Day in my middle school.
These are all experienceperiences. And when you sit in a
space and realize, oh my god, nothing and no one
can harm who I really am, then no one of
those experiences gets more of your attention than another. So
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not only am I standing here and my complete and
utter definition of what time and space and reality are
I am standing in all going, I am all of
these things and none of these things. All at the
same time, I was in utter disbelief. I was in awe.
I'm fifty four years old now. I have been telling
this story for I was what twenty one when this happens,
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So over thirty something years, I'm telling the story, and
I can tell you right now the little hairs are
standing up on my arms on my own story, and
the enthusiasm and the excitement that I tell you these
aren't feigned. This is not put on. I am so
excited to sit here and tell you for the ten
thousandth time people that you've got absolutely nothing to be
afraid of. As I'm in this space and I'm watching
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my life and now I've made it twenty one years
is Mary Helen Hensley, the good, the bad, the ugly,
and there was a lot of it. I had this
amazing childhood. I grew up in this kind of awkward
teenage years. I went off, I was a party girl
in college, had a really great time, ran off to Charleston,
South Carolina with my sweetheart. This is when I realized
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it's not about the quantity of time. It's about the
quality of life. The ultimate goal for your soul is
to come in here and have this immersive, in depth,
rich experience. What I also realized is that the guides
that were there with me the whole time that we're
in communication, nobody's mouth is moving. This is something where
we are just knowing each other. We're sitting in the
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space and there is you know, if you want to
call it telepathic whatever, but there was just a knowing,
this communication between us where no words had to be spoken.
I often find in dream time and in out of
body experiences this is the same way that communications will
take place quite often as well. It's been interesting is
that has carried forward into my life because people always
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want to know how did you get back in Well,
there was this moment and I still remember it distinctly,
when I realized that I wasn't done. I'm not finished.
Oh and I'm the one who created this. I'm looking
around and I've just gone through this review of my
own life, and I was like, wait a second. I
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was told in the Southern Baptist Church that there was
going to be a judgment, and guess what, guys, nobody
was judging me but me. I was critiquing my performance.
I didn't realize this tiny little thing that I had
done had made such a huge impact over here where
I was thinking I was so awesome because I had
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done this and it really had very little impact on something.
I was watching and critiquing my own performance with such love,
as if you're watching someone who's not you, because it's
actually only a piece of you. As these beings and
I are communicating with one another, they communicate to me,
you do realize you can go back, And I was like,
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I'm not finished here, and I realized it wasn't because
I had to come in and save the world. My
whole mission is to share the story. I'm still learning.
I needed to get back in here. Because with every
person that I communicate with, with every healing session that
I do, with every word that I write, I'm healing. Now.
One of the beautiful side effects of that is that
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I get to tell the story over and over and
help people through their own fears. And that's a wonderful
way to live life. But when I was coming back,
they said to me that they were going to have
to set the bar a little higher. I was going
to come back as if I wasn't weird enough with
some new gifts. And so I crashed back into my
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body at lightning speed, back into a body that was
completely broken. And when I finally awakened in the er
in the hospital, and I didn't even realize my neck
was broken, and this man walks into the room and
he was wearing a uniform and he had a little
notebook and the very first thing that he said to
me was your one lucky little lady. And then all
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of a sudden, I realized, Hey, I know you, And
he kind of tilted his head and he was like, no, no, no,
I said, I do. You were at the accident, And
he's like, how could you know that you were the
one who reached in and you turned the engine off.
Now he's freaking and I was like, did you check
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with my roommate? She was a couple of cars behind me,
and like he's like kind of inching back away from
me right Like, what is actually happening right now? I said,
there was this strange lady that came up and put
her name and phone number on the passenger side of
the car. She reached in through and left it on
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the seat. Did you get that? Did you get in
contact with her? Now he's closing the little notebook and
he's looking at me and his eyes are full of
tears and he is like, there is no way you
could know this. And it was that moment where you
could hear a pendra because he was realizing something and
I was realizing something at the same time. I just
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sat there with my mouth hanging open. I had no
other words. And he's backing out of the room, going
what is actually happening right now? Because he was the
one who saw the dead body, he was the one
who called the ambulance. I have now awakened and told
him everything from a bird's eye view that there's no
way I could have seen. So you find yourself having
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to completely reinvent your version of reality. Everything that you
thought to be true isn't. It's actually so much better now.
I'm like, Okay, time does not exist the way that
we think that it does. People have multiple timeline. There's
this happening simultaneously. Oh my gosh. So I'm starting to
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reinvent and take in all this new information and had
to come back into a three D physical form and
live it. Talk about a challenge, because you're so in
awe and you're so excited. Do you realize what we
got here?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
That story just gave me goosebumps? No, I don't think
we realize what we've got here, but we're going to
find out more of what we do have. We'll be
right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on
the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome
(25:57):
back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine. You're
listening to the near death experience of doctor Mary Helen
Hensley and she just freaked out the police officer that
she experienced everything on that scene from a bird's eye view.
Let's continue.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Do you realize what we've got here? And you're walking
around and you see these people and they're so sad,
and they're so miserable, and they're so heartbroken and they're
grief stricken and they're worried about the electricity bill and
they don't know how to feed the child. And it's
like there's so much pain and angst around and I'm like, no, no,
you don't understand. That's not your soul. Your soul who
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you actually are, puts you in and custom ordered that experience,
that pain, that heartbreak, that disease, that whatever it is,
so that you could gather some little piece of information
that you needed. Because this is only one of multiple
experiences of you. And this is why when we're mean
to each other, those eight billions and other versions of
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you that are walking around on this planet, you're just
dissing yourself. If you let yourself down by being cruel
or harsh or awful to somebody else, you're just projecting
that onto some other version of you. And this answers
that question of how is God in all places at once,
because we're fractals of the same hole. When my grandfather
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appeared to me, this apparition appears in front of me
and is giving me information about something that's going to
happen in my perceived future. Imagine, now you're twenty two
years old, you've been dead, you come back, and you've
got to go integrate into the world again. My dead
grandfather pops up and he says to me, Hey, we're
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sending you to chiropractic school. And I was like, uh uh,
I had just graduated from college. I was not going
back to school. But he said, we're sending you back
to school because you need to understand life. I'm a
vitalistic philosophy and I'm like, I don't even know what
that means. You have just experienced the interaction of the mind,
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the body, in the spirit, and you have just learned
firsthand that one does not exist without the other. Okay, well,
you're going to be teaching people and working with people
as they start to unravel and learn this as well.
So you're going to go and you're going to get
an education about how the mind and the body and
the spirit cannot be separated in order to have a
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complete human experience. This body is here to serve you,
and you don't forget that your body is perfectly capable
of serving your soul's purpose. So I'm going through and
I'm now interacting with people differently, and suddenly I realize
that this extra little gift that they were talking about
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was I now had the capacity to touch someone initially.
Now I don't have to do it. It's an energy
exchange and download their hard drive. And so someone can
be suffering with something, whether it's physical or emotional, in
this timeline, which has actually taken place in some other
version of themselves, be it a past projection of future projection,
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but something that has taken them at a present time.
And the most important thing to remember is that's just
a chemical reaction. Right now, Right here, me, sitting here
talking to you is my present time. And so the
only way I can conjure trauma or fear about something
that has already taken place is through a chemical reaction
in my brain. The saying goes for fear and projection
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into the future. Oh my god, what if this doesn't happen,
What if I don't get this? What if this happens.
It's a chemical reaction. The only thing that is real
in your creation is right now, and you, the creator,
are constantly creating. You're taking in the stimulus that's all
around you, and conjuring these outcomes, these experiences in order
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to further your own growth. And it's been mind blowing
and it's been amazing, and it's been, oh my gosh,
exhausting sometimes when you're the only cat in the room
who knows and you're trying to explain something that someone
has never felt or seen or heard before. But I
can tell you what. I'm going to go to my
grave trying shouting from the rooftops to tell people you
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already are that which you seek, and you absolutely can't
mess up here. You cannot mess this thing up. I
spoke in the beginning about how my father was the
big Burley American football player, and he was a minister,
and he spent his entire career explaining to people about
the wonders of heaven and God. And he never talked
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about the fire and brimstone. He wasn't that kind of preacher.
He never preached hell. He always chose to focus on
your potential and what he expected you to move towards,
as opposed to what was going to happen if he
screwed up. And so people really always enjoyed listening to him.
But as my father went from dementia and transitioned into Alzheimer's,
biggest thing he was challenged with was this horrid fear
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of death. And I thought, how curious this guy spent
his entire life standing in poolpits, working on the football pitch,
working with people to try and alleviate their fear of
death by preaching what he felt was the one way
ticket to salvation, which, by the way, guys, there's no
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such thing as one way, so many people will go.
She never said anything about Jesus. Well, you know what,
I was raised with Jesus. But Jesus, like everything else,
is a consciousness. It's a state of being. It's an evolution,
so is the Buddha energies. In the history of this realm,
there have been many Messiah figures who have come through
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here to bring people into a state of evolution and consciousness,
and I believe it resides within all of us. Here's
why this story is important. My father, the Christian minister
who has believed in this concept of heaven and hell
and taught based on the spiritual scriptures that support this.
He's in his room at the nursing home, and he'd
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had a particularly tough day, and he was shuffling around
and he had Sundowner syndrome, which means this very gentle,
giant and peace loving man would get violent and he
would have these waves of horrible emotion he couldn't express.
He was a beautiful orator, he was such a fabulous
public speaker, and he'd lost his ability to speak, so
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all he could do was babble. And so there was
this one day that he'd had a really, really tough time,
and my mother and I were in the nursing home.
We were watching him and he was shuffling back and forth.
It had been months since he had said a coherent word,
and he lays down in the bed. He starts reaching up.
He's reaching for the ceiling, and she's looking at me like,
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is he getting ready to die? What's going on. One
of the interesting things that I can see is what
the energy field around an individual looks like. Everything has
a field. When someone is getting ready to pass out
of the physical form, it looks like fireworks. It's not
like you'd think like a dimmer switch and the lights
are going down. It's quite the opposite. Everything's like exploding
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around them as the energy is gearing up to exit
the body. It's gorgeous to look at. And I'm looking
at my dad and I'm like, no, Mom, there's no fireworks.
Nothing's happening around him. So he's in the bed and
he's smiling, he's beaming, and he's reaching up and he says,
as clear as I'm talking to you right now, I
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can see it. I can see it. My mom's looking
at me. Your eyes are like saucers. And I'm like, Dad,
you know, because we haven't had a coherent word out
of him in months. And he said, hey, sugar, and
I said what's going on? And he said, I can
see it the land beyond the river. I ended up
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naming a book that because I just thought that was
just so phenomenal. He was like, it's so beautiful here.
And then he goes, I can see mama. She looks
so young, and so he's relaying this experience of seeing
his own mother and he is just marveling in her
beauty and her youthfulness. And then he stops and the
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man looks like a deer in headlights, and he goes, oh,
my gosh, daddy's here. My father's greatest fear was that
his father, who, by my dad's very strict Christian standards,
did not cut the mustard. My father had worried his
entire life about the soul of his own father. He
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thought he took the downward escalator rather than the up.
So the experiences that he had had in his life
that my father did not deem honorable or being a
good father or being a good person. Even my father
had convinced himself that his dad didn't make it. So
now all of a sudden, in this beautiful s he's
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looking at not only his mother but at his father,
and he's laughing and tears are just pouring down his face.
He looks over at my mom and he's reaching out
to her, and he goes, Helen, I've had it wrong
all along. Everybody's welcome here. You can't mess this thing up.
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And you want to talk about a mic drop moment
in my life, she who's been dead and come back.
It was right there witnessing this man who thought and
fell for and lived through the illusion of the separation
created by a heaven and a hell that the good
people get to go and the bad people don't, And like,
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who gets to determine where that cut off? Line is
it all just fell away. And in that moment, my
father was free, and he got to see that everything
that he had known, and everything that he had loved,
and everything that he had hoped for, it was there
in the land beyond the river, and it was available
to each and every one of us. You are here
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to provide and be provided for experientially. You can't mess
this thing up. When I'm working with people in healing sessions,
and when I say to you that I can download
someone's hard drive and I can figure out why they've
got this particular disease or why their depression is setting in.
And when I'm pinpointing a time and a place, it
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plays like a movie. In my head. It again looks
like a cinema screen. As I'm in and I'm watching
and I'm feeling and I'm downloading and understanding, it's something
that i'm watching that is a real experience. That's the
same way that it works with you know, when you're
seeing an operation. So someone could be laying on my
healing table and we're in communication with their dead mother,
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and the dead mother isn't physically in the room, but
the impression or the footprint and the information is in
the room and I'm able to read that, and so
they will appear if they have something valuable to contribute
to that person's life, something that might help get them
out of a space where they're stuck in a cycle
of grief, or a piece of information that's going to
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help them move forward with their lives. It's never to
come back and go, oh, I'm missiataribly honeak. You know,
that's not how it works, and that's not real because
when you're out of the body, you're completely aware of
how all of this works. They're completely aware that they
were a character in your story and the only way
that you could have the experience that you had, whether
it be good, bad, or indifferent, was if they played
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that role for you. So they're hardly going to sit
in some other realm and apologize for showing up for
something that you asked for or that you needed in
order to complete your experience here. And sometimes that's the message.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Sometimes that's the message. Wow, having compassion for people in
your life, even those that may have done you wrong.
Powerful words more inspiration from doctor Hensley. When we get back,
you're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
and Coast to Coast am Pironormal Podcast Network. Welcome back
(38:25):
to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. To find
out more about doctor Hensley and her books, you can
visit her website, Mary Helenhensley dot com. Let's continue with
some more inspiring words.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I laugh because a lot of people will walk out
of my room their headshaking, going, well, that was not
what I expected. But one thing about me is that
I am not going to sit and tell somebody something
that they want to hear just to appease them or
to whatever. I want them to understand and to think
and to grow and to be in riched by that interaction.
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What I'm trying to do is give them a deeper
connection to their understanding of why they are here and
why some of the uncomfortable things are, the grief or
the pain that they're going through, why that's actually happening.
That's when you're helping someone to heal. It's whatever the
individual needs in order to move forward in their own story.
Most people do have mystical experiences, and it happens to
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a lot of people at night because it's the only
time that they can actually digest they're thinking, oh, dreams
are nothing. Dreams are just the brain just blowing off
information whatever, and they don't understand that they're actually going
to bed and having their mystical experiences. They might not
live in a world that allows them to digest the metaphysical,
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so these things happen to them at night and they
come in the form of those dreams or those out
of body experiences. There. So we have to start rethinking
what we think we know, because a lot of the
information that we've been told about how the world works
is completely and utterly different than what's actually true. It's
really exciting to me right now as this kind of
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knowledge begins to unfold and people start to wake up
and realize it. We're so much more than the old
meat suit. You're never alone. Ever you might think you are.
Your experience might take you into the bottom of the barrel.
And what you've got to realize is that's of your
own doing. And that nudge that you get, that feeling
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that pulls you out of a state of hopelessness, that
little come on, you can do it when you don't
feel like getting up and putting one foot in front
of the other. That's the help you're getting from outside.
That can come in the form of somebody who's gone
on before you, that can come in the form of
a guide. There are so many different ways that you
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can be influenced. It's just about practicing and listening. It's
available to each and every one of us. It's about
keeping that channel over and allowing yourself to hear. And
this is why clearing interference every single day is essential.
It's like the radio station could be playing that song
and it's traveling across the waves, no problem, but you
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could be driving down a backcountry road with poor reception.
That doesn't mean that the tower's not sending the signal.
It means that your capacity to receive the signal is
altered because of your location. Well, your physical emotional state
of being can be altered as well, meaning that you
are not receiving the signals, and so it's essential that
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people clean and clear. This is where frequency can come in,
so you know, like eight hundred and fifty two hertz,
it's like an internal GPS eight five ' two allows
you to connect to your higher self and guess who's
hanging out with your higher self any other higher selves
that are there to help assist you. You can sit
in a space and go, hey, I need to really
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get myself back on track here and I need to
be able to hear this guidance. Do you know twenty
eight Hurtz resonates with human DNA. You're dealing with an illness.
You can sit in that frequency and altered this state
of your actual physical DNA. And so when someone starts
practicing with frequency, it is working with this technology where
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you are taking someone and altering the state of the
brain wave, altering the state of the frequencies that are
going into the body. You're using it to clear to
ring out that full sponge so that you're starting the
day with a clean slate as opposed to carrying everything
from yesterday in because the more stuff you're carrying from yesterday,
the harder it is to hear the signal. So you
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have the same capacity to heal and to connect with
that loving guidance as anybody else. People have to have
their own experiences, and they're unfolding in their own version
and understanding, and they're growing at their own speed. I
get that, But part of sharing information with people is
giving them a different perspective and giving them another way
to be able to interact with the world that might
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actually be more joyful or might be more productive in
their learning. Because while fear can be very useful, the
most common thing that happens here is people. They set
up camp there, They pitch a tent, start roasting marshmallows,
you know, and they live in this fear. I always
say to people, it's important to give fear and anxiety
a voice, but never a vote. A lot of people
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will stop me at that stage and go, why on earth,
if a soul is coming from this space of love
and light and perfection and awesomeness, why would you come
here for that? I say, it's simple. Why would you
pull out the monopoly board when your family or friends
come over, And why would you literally sit and pretend
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to be a silver shoe or a dog and think
that you can actually buy a piece of property with
a five hundred dollars pink bill. Because it's fun and
it's immersive, and it's competitive, and it's something you enjoy
doing with the people that you love, and you learn
and you laugh life, and you grow and you get
mad and you're like, why am I mad? Those waterworks
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aren't even real? He stole my property. He didn't really
steal your property. It's giving you the chance to work
through and express these emotions that are native to we
as human beings. And so ask anyone who's ever put
a quarter around their ankle and bungee jumped off a bridge,
why in the hell would you do that? And they're like,
because it's a rush, it's exhilarating, it's amazing, and it's
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not something that a beautiful, omnipotent, eternal soul that's not
encompassing a physical body, that's not something they can do.
We crave these experiences. You might not remember this in
the physical you might not remember this with your regular
conscious mind, but that eternal, omnipotent soul that you really are,
who knows that nothing and no one can harm who
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you really are. Yeah, you were like, bring it on.
I need to experience this in order to grow, to move,
and to evolve into the being that I want to be.
And sometimes experience is uncomfortable, sometimes the body gets sick.
But what people don't realize is these bodies, these programs,
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these experiences that we have are here showing up for us.
So the body is perfectly calculated to let you know
when you're screwing up, to let you know when you're
off target, to let you know that your goal that
you've set for yourself is over here, and you have
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veered off track. You're giving too much of your time
and attention away to somebody else, or something else, or
some stress or some worry. You need your undivided attention
right now. And if the only way you are going
to listen to yourself is for me to smack you
to bring all of your time and attention and energy
back to yourself, then how valuable is that. But we've
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made that the enemy. And the reason we make that
the enemy or the uncomfortable experiences, is because we fear death.
And so the whole reason for my being, the whole
joy that I have in coming back into this world
and spending the last thirty three years telling people how
amazing it is to die, is because I want them
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to live, and I want them to understand that all
this time and all this effort and all this terror
and all of this angst that they have about what
they fear in the unknown, they already are that which
they seek. One of the things I'm asked most often
is when people look at the state of the world
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right now, and they're like, this is the worst time
in history. No, it's not. Every point in humanity has
had moments like these, and these are essential to the
human experience. And I want people to remember that because
when they're fearful of Oh my god, but what are
my children growing up into? Well, you know what, imagine
my mom who was born in nineteen twenty nine and
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was a teenager moving into World War Two. Imagine what
she would have thought when she looked at the world.
They've just exploded a nuclear bomb. Nobody knows what's happening.
Everybody's freaking out. Well, guess what. You go back in
history and there isn't going to be a time in
history where everything was all rosy. Here. It's just not
the way that this plane is set up. And you
need to try and remember that that you're here to
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make the best of the experience that we're having. Now.
You are in a playground, a schoolhouse of immense opportunity
to improve and better yourself. And I'll remind you, you
know what, you want to keep it real. Call bs
on yourself when you hear yourself saying something doing something
that you know is not in alignment with who you
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want to become and call yourself out. Don't wait for
somebody else to do it, change tact and do something different.
That's how we regain control when we feel completely helpless,
when we feel at a loss, when we feel like
the world is crumbling around us. So many people live
in that really sick cycle. And so what I encourage
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you to do is to inject everything, infuse every moment
with gratitude. It really does work. I know it sounds trite,
you know, and it's like, oh, yeah, there's the gratitude again.
But when you stay in a place of gratitude, it
is so hard for you to get pulled into that negativity,
for you to get pulled into that darkness, because we're
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surrounded by that. But like I said, you're not meant
to set up camp there. You're meant to go in,
experience it, visit it, and leave it again. But people
will hook onto and identify with something that feels low,
feels bad, feels horrible, and gives them a reason not
to show up. And so I think it's really really
important that you step into each moment with gratitude and
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that you show up and it's not for everybody else.
I'm not doing this just so everybody else can hear
what I have to say. I'm doing this because I
need to hear this. I'm telling my own story because
I need to hear what I'm saying. I need to
be reminded on a daily basis that I got to
temporaryly die so that I could step out and change
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it up and come back in here and use everything
that is available to me in this experience to its max.
That's the story I'm sharing. So just go do it.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Just go do it, just go live it, and just
go experience it. It's all about the experiences. If you
like near death experiences, I want to offer you some
different sources. First of all, our friends at IMS dot
org that's the International Association for Near Death Studies. And
I've also found a gentleman named Anthony Shen spelled.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
C h E n E.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
He's got a YouTube channel, he's got a website Anthonyshen
dot com. He's a good resource. Also, I have compiled
a list of past shades of the afterlife episodes, so
you can go to the category near death experiences, deathbed visitations,
signs from loved ones, dreams, children, pets, automatic writing, and
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ways to connect to your loved ones, and of course
lots more good We Don'tdie dot com scroll to the
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