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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back George Noriy along with Jim Harold. His
websites are linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com. He's
got a few podcasts. How do people hear your podcast, Jim? Well,
pretty much anywhere you can listen or watch. We really
rolled out video in the last year or so, more
so Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, iHeartRadio, all the.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Major podcast apps. We're pretty much everywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Excellent. Let's talk a few stories. Some of your favorites.
What are they?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Well, I'm going to start with one that has a
Coast to Coast AM and a George Norri tie in.
So this was from Mary from Texas. You know, her
son was a toddler and was just starting to talk,
and she traveled a lot for work, and often she
would come back home late at night. Now, one night
she was driving home and she was tuning into none
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other than Coast to Coast AM with George nor and
you were talking about reptilians with a guest, and you know,
she found it to be pretty compelling. She thought, hmm,
maybe there is something to this reptilian thing. So over
dinner the next day, she's telling her husband about the
show and the guest and the reptilians and the evidence
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that was presented, and her husband was very skeptical. He said, if.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
That's true, why haven't they shown.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Themselves to us? And her little toddler is sitting there
in his high chair, playing with his peas and carrots,
and he looks up and he said, people not ready yet,
And then he went back to his veggies. Yeah, people
not ready And she said, you know, he was kind
of not really, he was kind of jabberin usually yeah, yeah,
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people not ready yet. Now, he never referred to it again.
He didn't remember it. And when Mary called him from
Texas a few years ago and told this story, he
was fifteen years old and a complete skeptic, the boy,
that is. But I just thought that was really a
great story. They had a coast to coast am tie in,
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and it does make you think it's even.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Like the ets were speaking through him. Yeah, is it
wasn't that weird?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I just I always remembered that one, and I was
got to chuckle out of that strange.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Do you get many calls about the devil.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Some one that comes to mind actually ties in with
the wija board. And this goes back many years. This
is one of the very first calls we got, I think,
and it was in my first book. So these teenage
girls were playing with the wija board, okay, and they said,
you know if and they were getting these communications, but
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they were like, oh, this is just you know, this
is just us accidentally moving the plant chat or whatever
the little thing you moved.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, and they.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Said, well, if there's really proof, give me proof. And
they had a little lava lamp. You know those lava
lamps with the glop in the middle that used to
be real popular. So anyway, they start looking at this
lamp and the little balls of glop start forming into
a face and they keep forming from them. It turns
into a face of a devil. And they shut the
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wage aboard as soon as they see this, and all
the lights go off, and.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That's a devil call.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So you know, the thing is, I don't think we
get a lot of calls specifically about the devil, but
I believe the devil is real. I believe evil is real.
I mean I'll talk to some of my new age
friends and they'll say, oh, there's just lower vibrations. But
I believe there's good, and I believe that there's evil,
and some people call that the devil, but I believe
the more sinister energies are real for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Jim, in your twenty years of podcasting, have you seen
changes along the line in terms of story.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I think people are more willing to share them, and
I think the Coast to Coast am deserves a lot
of credit for that, and maybe people who listen to
my show a teeny tiny piece of credit for that
and shows like it. I think people are more willing
to share stories now. It's interesting because people are more
willing to share different kinds of stories. Like if somebody
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saw a ghost or got a sign from a loved one,
very willing to share. But if somebody had a UFO experience,
I think they're a little more apprehensive. And if there's
an alien abduction piece to that, I think they're even
more apprehensive to share that because it seems like there's
this ranking of credibility and it's unfortunate. I think people
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should feel open to share their stories, but I understand
the reluctance so but I think a willingness to share
people have opened up over the years, I think, do you.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Get many spiritual type stories? Oh yes, oh yes.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And that's what I was saying before, was is that
I'm just as likely to get a story of a
heartwarming message from a loved one.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I've gotten many.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Stories of people maybe being saved by a potential angel,
So we get those too, and I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I kind of look at it. You know, I'm going.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
To give you your spooky, scary stories. I'm gonna get
those to you, don't worry, But I'm going to put
in your vegetables, and your vegetables are those kind of
spiritual stories, those sweet stories, those affirming stories, because I
want you to see the whole picture.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
In your early days of podcasting, How has it changed
since today?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Oh my gosh, Well, I remember I used to work
for I don't want to give a way too much
industry stuff. I used to work for CBS Radio and
I was in a meeting, a conference call with a
big muckety MUCKs, and I said, you know, guys, this
podcasting thing you really need to get on.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm doing it on the side for fun.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
At that point, it was for fun, and this is
really going to take off. And they kind of like, oh,
that's nice, go sell another banner ad. Yeah, because I
was in charge of salespeople in my market for selling
digital and this was before smartphone, so it was very
hard to do. And lo and behold, everybody kind of
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came around to podcasting. So that's one of the biggest things.
It's all the equipment now is so much better. I mean,
it was kind of like you had to cobble it
all together with like spit and bailing wire when I
first started. And now, my gosh, I mean I'm talking
into annoyman, Mike, I've got a Sony camera here, lights,
I mean, the whole thing. I mean, the equipment has
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improved so much, and you know, it's really just amazing
how far it's taken off. But it does make it
harder to be discovered in podcasting. I was very lucky
to get in on the ground floor. As I say,
how did you handle the technical end at that time?
I was always a tech techie. I was always a
nerd and still am proudly. And I just figured it out.
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I googled everything, I looked things up. I just figured
it out a piece of time. And I did go
to school for broadcasting so I had some level of knowledge,
you know, But I mean when we and you'll remember this,
when I went to school for broadcasting, it was basically,
you know, reel to reel and a grease pencil and
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a razor blade. I mean, everything changed, so I had
to reteach myself on the fly how to do everything digitally.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
But I grew up, and it's really kind of cool.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I grew up with two loves, the paranormal and broadcasting,
and I always admired people like you and like art
and then general broadcasters.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Bob Barker was a big favorite of mine.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I was always fascinated by broadcasting, and in college when
people would talk about broadcasting history, all the other kids
would fall asleep, and I'm like, tell me more about
the NBC Red and Blue net that works, please. So
I mean, my love of tech, my love of broadcasting,
my love of the paranormal kind of coalesced.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So I just had this drive. I'm going to figure
this thing out.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
And you know, there are people who figured it out
better than me, Joe Rogan, but honestly, not bad for
a guy who started with a thirty dollars headset.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Kind of reminds me at its peak. In two thousand
and four, Blockbuster Video had nine thousand stores worldwide, eighty
four thousand employees, and I am sure some young kid
went into the boss and said, all this is going
to be obsolete one day they did, people are going
to be home streaming, and they probably said, what's streaming?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
And they probably never got Ittflix.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Netflix went to Blockbuster and they wanted to join forces
and work with them, and Blockbuster said, why do we
need you?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So we see what happened. But I will say this,
there's something.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
About radio that is irreplaceable, traditional radio. I am still
a big believer in traditional radio. What you do and
all the great local broadcasters do around the country, live
and local reacting to news events. And really I still
believe there's a huge place for traditional radio that podcasting
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can never replace. But podcasting has some things that the
radio doesn't do or can't do quite as well, long form,
you know those things. So I think there's a place
for everybody. And my gosh, I mean, I owe a
lot of what I'm doing to the great radio broadcasters
over the years, including yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
So radio is here to stay. In my mind.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, that's one of the reasons I'm such a proponent
of keeping AM radios.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Oh, yes, yes, yes, it's a huge market.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
We've got so many truck drivers out there and late
night people who.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Just drive around. That's right, that's right. I've had listeners
Jim who stay in their.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Driveway, Oh, driveway moments. Absolutely, my daughter does that. My
daughter will be listening to some audio and I'm like,
what are you doing out there, and She's like, I'm
finishing up this good segment. Absolutely, it's very audio is
very compelling, and one thing I do love about podcasting,
and I feel I don't want to get too far
in the weeds with industry talk, but if you, I
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mean you're a student of history, broadcast history. How in
the thirties and forties and part of the fifties, dramatic
radio and all of that was such a part of
entertainment and was the entertainment really before television took hold.
And I think the podcasting has helped bring a renaissance
to audio and make people understand that audio is just
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fantastic and your video's great, but audio can do things
that audio that the video can't. And so I'm a
big believer in audio, big believer in radio.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And in podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We have the Paranormal Podcast Network and yours is called
the Paranormal Podcast. Yes, so we're close.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yes, yes, I actually I trademarked the name of the
Paranormal Podcast because it was such a good name. In
two thousand and five when I started, what happened was
is I thought, well what can I call this? And
there were some other shows before me, some paranormal shows,
and I'm like, well, it's paranormal, it's a podcast, and
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I'm like, well, somebody's got to have that name, and
they didn't. And I think that really helped me because
when people google paranormal podcast that I'm what came up
and still rank pretty high for that term. So it
actually ended up being a really happy accident.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Good for you. Tell us another story.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
This is actually one I just took in today, and
this is one of those spooky, scary ones, and I'm
going to air this on Thursday's show. This was Lane
from New Mexico and he had worked the evening shift
at a hotel out there and a couple checked in
one night and Lane was the desk clerk and help
them and after that, you know, his shift ended, somebody
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else took over and He went home, and about three
am in the morning, he gets a call come back
to the hotel. He gets there, there's police and emergency
crews on site. Unfortunately, a violent incident had occurred and
one of those guests had been murdered. Yeah, really really
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sad stuff. And before dying, this victim had run down
the hallway banging on the doors for help. Unfortunately no
one helped them. The person ended up dying in an elevator.
So whatever attack had happened, my interpretation was the person
had been attacked physically, had been injured, was asking for help,
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ended up going in the elevator and expiring in the elevator.
The hotel brought in the professionals to clean the scene.
A month later, guests began reporting eerie disturbances. Around two
thirty am. Someone would be banging on their doors asking
for help. They would open the door, no one was there.
Other people in the room right next to this couple
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where this happened said their alarm clock would go off
nightly at two thirty. So Lane, one of the hotel employees,
he checked the clock. He found no alarm set kept happening.
Eventually he said, I'll fix it. I'll unplug it. The
alarm still went off. One day, while working across the hall,
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Lane had a radio. They have radio so they can
communicate with other people on site. He heard strained silence
on his radio, then static and a voice. He recognized
it was the voice of the deceased guest and it
said I'm still alive.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
His radio had switched itself to an unused channel. Lane
hadn't touched it. Lane spoken to the radio asking if
he could help or contact the man's family. There was
no response after that. The elevator where the man died,
it behaves strangely. It I always stopped if Lane was
going up to the third floor, it would stop midway.
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But Lane finally would start talking to the spirit when
he would get on the elevator and said good evening,
good morning, and the elevator would run just fine. And
Lane thinks that the reason that this ghost has had
this kind of connection with him is because Lane that
evening when they checked in, said if he needed anything,
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be sure to check in with Lane, and Lane would
be glad to help him. And he thinks he forged
that connection with that ghost and it's continued to go
on that's probably the most eerie story we've heard this year,
and literally recorded it, you know, less than twenty four
hours ago, and I had to share that one, so
that one debuted here before it was even on the
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the show, because I just thought that was remarkable.
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