February 1, 2025 • 10 mins
George Noory and paranormal investigator Margie Kay discuss her experiences in haunted houses, how to determine if a house is haunted or not, and recounts seeing the ghost of her grandmother doing a crossword puzzle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with
your two special guests for you tonight. The first is
Margie K. Violent Wisdom, her author co partner will join
us at the half this hour. Then both of them
join us for phone calls with you next hour. Margie
is a licensed private investigator in Missouri. She's a veteran
(00:25):
paranormal investigator, writer, and filmmaker. Margie is a remote viewer
has helped solve more than seventy missing person, theft and
homicide cases for law enforcement and private investigators worldwide. She's
the co author of the Vocata research A Haunted House. Margie,
Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, thank you so much, George. I'm glad to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It is a great time. And when did this all
happen for you? When did you get involved in this
kind of research?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, it started when I was a child and I
was having paranormal experiences and I wanted to know what
was going on. So I was off to the library
and studying because that's what we did back then. There
was no internet, and so right around the age of eleven,
I saw my first disembodied head at hanging at the
(01:19):
foot of my bed, and that got my attention.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How did you get involved with law enforcement?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I actually got involved with that because I had
a group of attorneys who used to see me for
private readings doing psychic work, and one of them had
a niece who disappeared and she called me one evening.
I'd never really done anything like that, and she said,
(01:47):
my niece is gone. She didn't come home from the
bus stop, and I need help. So I remote viewed
and I discovered a new way of doing it by
sending my eteric body out through my solar plexus, and
I just followed this line. I found the girl. She'd
been kidnapped. She was in a shed, and I directed
(02:10):
them to that location. They found her alive. She was
actually being sold in the morning for the sum of
ten thousand dollars and they were able to save her.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Good for you, Good for you. We're going to be
talking a lot about that today. And how did you
team up with Violet to write the book How to
Research a Haunted House.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, Violet and I have been colleagues for several years.
She works for me, She works at the NX Network.
And she's also a professional researcher who's written fifty books
about houses, historic homes. And one day I just had
this idea about how to research your haunted house, and
(02:52):
I thought, you know, what better house would be the
subject for this book, And that was my home when
I was a teenager in Springfield, Missouri. It was it's
probably still today the most haunted house I've ever investigated
or lived in. And so that is the subject of
the book.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Tragically, Margie, it was a plane headed to the Springfield
Branson Airport today and yes, you went down unbelievable in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It is unbelievable. It's a terrible tragedy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Now these cases, in most states, don't you have to
disclose if the house is haunted before you sell it?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Actually you don't. Violet looked that up and she found
there's only a couple of states where you have to disclose.
So and Missouri my home state, and yours. I believe
at one time you do not so and and in fact,
you don't have to tell anyone that someone was murdered
(03:56):
in your house. If it's more than like three years.
You have to ask Violet about that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
To be sure, unless you've got a great deal, would
you buy a house where somebody was killed?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't know. I don't know. I've I've pretty much
had my fill of hauntings right now, I don't think
i'd be in the mood.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now. How do you determine if a house is haunted?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, that's that's my part. The first thing I do
is I remote view the site before I go there.
So if somebody wants help with a home that they're
having a lot of problems with, I will remote you
first to see what I'm getting into, and you know,
if there's more than one entity, if it is a
(04:42):
human or non human, and then I'll make a decision
if I want to go approach that or not. And
one of the nice things about doing that, which is
also a little bit scary at times, the entities or
the spirits seem to know that I'm coming, and a
(05:06):
lot of times they will leave before we even arrive
at the house in person, so you know. And then
some of them, though, are kind of stubborn, Some of
them just need to be nudged a little bit untild
that they've passed on because they may not know that
they've passed on. It could be all manner of things
that we're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I was going to ask you, Marjorie, how do they
How do we know what the spirits want?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, they always want something. So it's a good idea
to have a psychic on your team if you are
a paranormal investigation team, because they might be able to
figure that out and communicate with the dead to find
out why they're there. But there are some clues for
a team that does not have a psychic or someone
(05:54):
who owns the house and they want to figure it out.
One of the things that I look for is where
is that spirit hanging out? Is it the same location,
Is it a bedroom that might have been their favorite?
Is it the kitchen? A lot of times people will
see a parcel or a full bodied apparition, and if
(06:16):
it's a woman and she's wearing an apron and she's
in the kitchen all the time, that's a clue that
that is a former occupant. And there's some other things
that you can look for, like children's toys being played
with might be a child ghost, you know, just things
like that that you want to, you know, make note
(06:38):
of cigar smoke, cigarette smoke things like that. Those are
pretty typical hints that it's a person who actually used
to live in the house. And in fact, I would
say ninety eighty to ninety percent of the houses that
are haunted are by people who lived in the house originally,
(06:59):
and most of those cases they are the ones who
built the house, so they're very attached to it. People
become very very attached to homes, and especially you notice
with older people. My grandmother, for instance, did not want
to leave her house, and so I moved in with her.
(07:20):
This is some time ago, but I moved in with
her so that she wouldn't have to leave her home
and they then three days after she passed, we saw
her in the kitchen in her favorite spot, doing the
New York Times crossword puzzle on the table where she
used to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What are the percents, Margie? Have people who live in
the house and they summon you up and they just
want help, as opposed to people who are trying to
sell their house and they think it's haunted.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, I would say the percentage wise, probably eighty percent
are people who are already in a home and they
want to stay there. They just want to get rid
of the pesky spirits?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Are they scared?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Sometimes they are. Sometimes we get this spirit that's really
negative or evil, and there's very serious about wanting people
to get out of their house, and they will start
acting up. They're do a polar guysed activity, throwing things,
turning lights off and on, and that's a much more
difficult situation. I just did a case where the whole
(08:29):
family was so frightened that they ran screaming out of
the home at three o'clock in the morning and left
and never went back.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Wow's what tell me this. If the individual before he
or she died was benevolent, was nice, and then they die,
what kind of a spirit do they become? Are they
still nice or they evil? Nice?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
They keep the same personality. So that's another thing that
a person can do, as far as Reacher Research is concerned,
is ask the neighbors, ask people who may know something
about the previous owners, and check you see what kind
of a person they were, because they're going to be
(09:16):
the same when they cross over. I mean, every time
I've looked at this or contacted spirits, that is the case.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
What has been some of the most difficult cases you've encountered.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh gosh, well, the house that we're going to talk
about tonight, that's the subject of the book, The Springfield House.
That one is, Oh gosh, so many things going on
there that even as a fourteen and fifteen year old,
I had done so much research to find out why
(09:50):
it was haunted and how to get rid of the spirits.
That at that time, of course I wasn't very experienced,
and we had things happening, of course, doors slamming, water
coming on by itself in the upstairs bathroom, in the
tub and the sink. They were both very, very old.
The house was built believe in the late eighteen hundreds,
(10:14):
and you know, original fixtures and everything. And my mother
was actually blamed my brother, my poor little brother, for
turning the water on all the time and flooding things.
And finally one day she was walking by the bathroom
when all of us were at school, and she watched
(10:34):
the knob turn on the sink turn and full blast,
just blasting water everywhere. Things like that, and had something
stomping up and down the stairs. So there were multiple
spirits in there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Listen to more Coast to Coast am every weeknight at
one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot
com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with
your two special guests for you tonight. The first is
Margie K. Violent Wisdom, her author co partner will join
us at the half this hour. Then both of them
join us for phone calls with you next hour. Margie
is a licensed private investigator in Missouri. She's a veteran
(00:25):
paranormal investigator, writer, and filmmaker. Margie is a remote viewer
has helped solve more than seventy missing person, theft and
homicide cases for law enforcement and private investigators worldwide. She's
the co author of the Vocata research A Haunted House. Margie,
Welcome to the program.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, thank you so much, George. I'm glad to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It is a great time. And when did this all
happen for you? When did you get involved in this
kind of research?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, it started when I was a child and I
was having paranormal experiences and I wanted to know what
was going on. So I was off to the library
and studying because that's what we did back then. There
was no internet, and so right around the age of eleven,
I saw my first disembodied head at hanging at the
(01:19):
foot of my bed, and that got my attention.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
How did you get involved with law enforcement?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, I actually got involved with that because I had
a group of attorneys who used to see me for
private readings doing psychic work, and one of them had
a niece who disappeared and she called me one evening.
I'd never really done anything like that, and she said,
(01:47):
my niece is gone. She didn't come home from the
bus stop, and I need help. So I remote viewed
and I discovered a new way of doing it by
sending my eteric body out through my solar plexus, and
I just followed this line. I found the girl. She'd
been kidnapped. She was in a shed, and I directed
(02:10):
them to that location. They found her alive. She was
actually being sold in the morning for the sum of
ten thousand dollars and they were able to save her.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Good for you, Good for you. We're going to be
talking a lot about that today. And how did you
team up with Violet to write the book How to
Research a Haunted House.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, Violet and I have been colleagues for several years.
She works for me, She works at the NX Network.
And she's also a professional researcher who's written fifty books
about houses, historic homes. And one day I just had
this idea about how to research your haunted house, and
(02:52):
I thought, you know, what better house would be the
subject for this book, And that was my home when
I was a teenager in Springfield, Missouri. It was it's
probably still today the most haunted house I've ever investigated
or lived in. And so that is the subject of
the book.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Tragically, Margie, it was a plane headed to the Springfield
Branson Airport today and yes, you went down unbelievable in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It is unbelievable. It's a terrible tragedy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Now these cases, in most states, don't you have to
disclose if the house is haunted before you sell it?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Actually you don't. Violet looked that up and she found
there's only a couple of states where you have to disclose.
So and Missouri my home state, and yours. I believe
at one time you do not so and and in fact,
you don't have to tell anyone that someone was murdered
(03:56):
in your house. If it's more than like three years.
You have to ask Violet about that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
To be sure, unless you've got a great deal, would
you buy a house where somebody was killed?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't know. I don't know. I've I've pretty much
had my fill of hauntings right now, I don't think
i'd be in the mood.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now. How do you determine if a house is haunted?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, that's that's my part. The first thing I do
is I remote view the site before I go there.
So if somebody wants help with a home that they're
having a lot of problems with, I will remote you
first to see what I'm getting into, and you know,
if there's more than one entity, if it is a
(04:42):
human or non human, and then I'll make a decision
if I want to go approach that or not. And
one of the nice things about doing that, which is
also a little bit scary at times, the entities or
the spirits seem to know that I'm coming, and a
(05:06):
lot of times they will leave before we even arrive
at the house in person, so you know. And then
some of them, though, are kind of stubborn, Some of
them just need to be nudged a little bit untild
that they've passed on because they may not know that
they've passed on. It could be all manner of things
that we're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I was going to ask you, Marjorie, how do they
How do we know what the spirits want?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, they always want something. So it's a good idea
to have a psychic on your team if you are
a paranormal investigation team, because they might be able to
figure that out and communicate with the dead to find
out why they're there. But there are some clues for
a team that does not have a psychic or someone
(05:54):
who owns the house and they want to figure it out.
One of the things that I look for is where
is that spirit hanging out? Is it the same location,
Is it a bedroom that might have been their favorite?
Is it the kitchen? A lot of times people will
see a parcel or a full bodied apparition, and if
(06:16):
it's a woman and she's wearing an apron and she's
in the kitchen all the time, that's a clue that
that is a former occupant. And there's some other things
that you can look for, like children's toys being played
with might be a child ghost, you know, just things
like that that you want to, you know, make note
(06:38):
of cigar smoke, cigarette smoke things like that. Those are
pretty typical hints that it's a person who actually used
to live in the house. And in fact, I would
say ninety eighty to ninety percent of the houses that
are haunted are by people who lived in the house originally,
(06:59):
and most of those cases they are the ones who
built the house, so they're very attached to it. People
become very very attached to homes, and especially you notice
with older people. My grandmother, for instance, did not want
to leave her house, and so I moved in with her.
(07:20):
This is some time ago, but I moved in with
her so that she wouldn't have to leave her home
and they then three days after she passed, we saw
her in the kitchen in her favorite spot, doing the
New York Times crossword puzzle on the table where she
used to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
What are the percents, Margie? Have people who live in
the house and they summon you up and they just
want help, as opposed to people who are trying to
sell their house and they think it's haunted.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Well, I would say the percentage wise, probably eighty percent
are people who are already in a home and they
want to stay there. They just want to get rid
of the pesky spirits?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Are they scared?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Sometimes they are. Sometimes we get this spirit that's really
negative or evil, and there's very serious about wanting people
to get out of their house, and they will start
acting up. They're do a polar guysed activity, throwing things,
turning lights off and on, and that's a much more
difficult situation. I just did a case where the whole
(08:29):
family was so frightened that they ran screaming out of
the home at three o'clock in the morning and left
and never went back.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Wow's what tell me this. If the individual before he
or she died was benevolent, was nice, and then they die,
what kind of a spirit do they become? Are they
still nice or they evil? Nice?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
They keep the same personality. So that's another thing that
a person can do, as far as Reacher Research is concerned,
is ask the neighbors, ask people who may know something
about the previous owners, and check you see what kind
of a person they were, because they're going to be
(09:16):
the same when they cross over. I mean, every time
I've looked at this or contacted spirits, that is the case.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
What has been some of the most difficult cases you've encountered.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Oh gosh, well, the house that we're going to talk
about tonight, that's the subject of the book, The Springfield House.
That one is, Oh gosh, so many things going on
there that even as a fourteen and fifteen year old,
I had done so much research to find out why
(09:50):
it was haunted and how to get rid of the spirits.
That at that time, of course I wasn't very experienced,
and we had things happening, of course, doors slamming, water
coming on by itself in the upstairs bathroom, in the
tub and the sink. They were both very, very old.
The house was built believe in the late eighteen hundreds,
(10:14):
and you know, original fixtures and everything. And my mother
was actually blamed my brother, my poor little brother, for
turning the water on all the time and flooding things.
And finally one day she was walking by the bathroom
when all of us were at school, and she watched
(10:34):
the knob turn on the sink turn and full blast,
just blasting water everywhere. Things like that, and had something
stomping up and down the stairs. So there were multiple
spirits in there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
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one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot
com for more
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