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July 16, 2019 17 mins

George Noory and political commentator Jerome Corsi analyze current events in the middle east, how the United States will deal with Iran's continued threats to develop nuclear weapons, and the connection between oil profits and terrorism.

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In your opinion, if there's a military strike, and I'll
circle that word if is it going to be a
strategic pinpoint or is it going to be like annihilation
of Iran? I think, George President Trump would first do
a very limited strike. I mean, there's clearly targets that

(00:22):
can be hit that are military or related to the
uranium production. The problem is many of these targets are
embedded by Iran in civilian settings, including Tehran the capital,
so there will be casualties. There will be some casualties.
The last strike that was called off by President Trump

(00:42):
after the drone was shot down by Iran, was going
to be estimated to kill some one hundred and thirty
five people, and President Trump in the last minute decided
that was disproportionate. He didn't want civilian casualties when all
Iran had done was shoot down a drone. Though people
were killed in the drone attack. I think President Trump

(01:03):
is going to be very, very cautious because I'm convinced
he does not want to go into a war, especially
with Iran, knowing how quickly it can escalate and I'm
in favor of that kind of caution. George. I've been
on your show now going back really the two thousand
and four, two thousand and five, and I've always said

(01:23):
the war in the Middle East is not the solution,
it's part of the problem. We really don't solve problems
by going to war in the Middle East. We just
create endless wars and perpetuate problems, create new problems. And
I'm pleased to see us, the United States stay on
the sanctions issue, economic pressure on Iran. I think that's

(01:44):
the best chance of success. If there is war in
the Middle East. How does that affect Americans here at home?
What happens to oil? Of course, you know, we as
a nation were the world's largest producer of oil right now.
Would that affect us? What happens here? Jerry Well, I think,
first of all, George, we would see we would see
oil spike if there's a war in the Middle East,

(02:05):
because it's still a large proportion of the oil for
the world is coming out of the Middle East, and
the Straits of Hormuz have something like twenty percent of
the world's oil passing through it daily. That's part of
that's the narrowest part of the Persian Gulf by Alman
and the United Arab Emirates and Iran. That's the narrowest part,

(02:30):
and all would spike in price. Now, oil has not
yet really spiked in price the United States and George,
we've had shows on this going back that long when
I was arguing that oil is abiotic and plentiful. I
remember more than ten years ago on your show arguing
that we would be the leader in oil production once

(02:51):
we got into the hydraulic drilling and the other techniques
we're using now shale oil. The United States really has
the capacity to produce a lot more oil. And I
don't think that the oil issue is really as important
at the moment with Iran as I think the potential
of an escalating conflict that has the unlimited potential to

(03:15):
expand into a regional and global war, and that's what
really worries me. I think we can handle the spike
in oil, but it will spike, and oil will go
up to could go up to double to about one
hundred and twenty five dollars a barrel if there is
any outbreak of violence in the Middle East with Iran.
Jerry how in the world, did we lose a great
friendship with Iran when the Shower was there? And please

(03:37):
keep in mind, world, he was not a boy scout.
He was not a good guy, and that's one of
the reasons why the Iranian Revolution tossed him out. But
he was a friend of the United States. How did
we lose that friendship with Iran where we were selling
them fighter jets and everything else to where we are today?
What the heck happened? Well, George, it's complex. The certainly

(04:00):
with Jimmy Carter's administration. When the hostage crisis occurred in
Iotola Komani returned to Iran for a Iranian Revolution that
was really the Religious Revolution nineteen seventy nine that changed
Iran into being this radical Islamic country. Iran previously under

(04:23):
the Shaw had been very oriented to the West. The
Iranian people have been modernizing. The Western influences were very extensive.
But the history of the United States in Iran is complex.
Going back to nineteen fifty three, within CIA overthrew an
Iranian prime minister named Mosadek. We've had CIA involvement in

(04:47):
Iranian politics, which remained a kind of destabilizing force, and
one that's never been forgotten by the Iranian people. We
did interfere in Iran's politics in a major way in
that the nineteen fifty three and it's remembered. I think
the Iranian people today would like to eliminate these religious

(05:10):
mullahs who are ruling the country because they're very brutal
on the people of Iran, and the people of Iran
historically are Persian and the religion with Zoroastrianism going back centuries.
The idea of Islam coming into Iran is really a
modern innovation, with Iran being traditionally not an Islamic country,

(05:34):
even after Islam came into the world. And one of
the other problems with Iran is they are, without question
financing some of these terror groups and other groups involved
like Kamas and Hezbollah and god knows who else. Well,
that's really one of the major problems. George, and I
think one of the objections that the Trump administration had

(05:56):
to the agreement that was done by Barack Obama. And
you recall we shipped them airplanes full of cash, cargo planes.
We said, with bundles billets. You know, there's big both
billets of cash, billions of dollars in cash to Iran.
I still don't know why we sent Iran cash. It
doesn't make any sense, no, I mean it was ridiculous

(06:19):
to send them cash, and I think the American military
delivering that cash wondered what was going on. I mean,
that's cash is you know, suspect in the world politics
as being for terrorism or for an illicit purposes, or
drug money or something like that, exactly money laundering. I mean,
you don't ship around as a government billions of dollars

(06:42):
in cash and military cargo planes to around Where Where
did they get the cash in the first place? Was
this from that black budget we keep Harry about. Well, George,
I don't know where the cash came from. I wondered
that myself. I mean, it's never really been fully explained,
and we don't have an accounting of how much cash
the the Obama administration sent to Iran. How do we

(07:04):
even find out, Jerry, how do we even find out
that we did this? Well, the military on these conggo
planes took pictures of the cash and put it on
the What are we doing shipping all this cash? I
mean they took pictures of these, you know, shipping billets
these you know containers were they of cash, all piled

(07:27):
up in huge amounts, mounds of cash, all neatly organized,
freshly printed cash. And the military said, what are we
doing this for? At they rate the money ended up
into large extent funding from Iran. Terrorism is Hamas in
the Gaza has belong Lebanon in Syria, the Revolutionary Guard

(07:48):
in Syria, the Revolutionary Guard from Iran and Iraq. Iran
has been for decades the leading sponsor of terrorism worldwide.
And we've identified Iran irresponsoring country by the State Department
now going on to decades. And didn't any congressional committees
try to follow up on this? Well, you know, George,

(08:11):
I don't think it really got the cash sent to
Iran really did not get that much of an investigation
because it didn't. I haven't heard much. No, the Democrats
wanted to block it. It wanted to make suppress this idea.
John Kerry was the one who negotiated a Secretary of State,
this agreement with Iran, and it was very much viewed,

(08:31):
certainly by those like myself who were concerned about Iran.
Is really appeasement of Iran, paying Iran off not to
develop nuclear weapons. But the agreement said in ten years,
this joint agreement that we had with Iran, in ten years,
Iran was going to be free to develop nuclear energy
to a weapon's grade. And Iran has started now to

(08:54):
enrich uranium beyond the limits set in the agreement with
Obama on twenty fifteen. They've broken those limits, which is
one of the reasons President Trump has accused Ran of
violating disagreement. But of course we've pulled out of that agreement.
We said we're not going to respect that agreement any longer.

(09:14):
So Iran is right now under severe sanctions and the
current pressure that we're seeing with Iran, all this trouble
attacking oil shipping in the Gulf, the problems with the
British and this oil tanker that was seized from Iran,
and the Mediterranean shooting down on the drone, all these
military kinds of incidents are caused because Iran is trying

(09:38):
to let the world know that they're suffering under this
economic pressure of the sanctions imposed by President Trump. You know,
as we protected Kuwait when the Iraqis went in there
and took over Kuwait during the First Gulf War, why
isn't Ran smart enough to come to a country like
ours unless they don't trust us and say, look, we

(09:59):
are bandoning our nuke program. We want an agreement, trade
agreement with you. We want a protection agreement with you
that you'll step in and help us if anybody attacks us,
and we want to be friends. Why can't they do
something like that. Well, I think the critical issue with
Iran is this zealot nature of the Shiite religion, the

(10:21):
particular brand of Islam in Iran, which is that this
Madi that went down the well three hundred and something,
a d one of the family of the prophet who's
going to be the legitimate ruler of Shiite Islam, went
into hiding and we'll only come out of the well

(10:43):
if there is a worldwide apocalypse that will trigger the
Mahdi to come out of the well and Shiaid Islam
to conquer all other forms of religion, including Sunni Islam.
And that's that zealot nature of Aetola Komani's revolution in
nineteen seventy nine, which has radicalized Iran and made it

(11:07):
be a rogue nation supporting terrorism. I think the Iranian
people would be happy to see the Iranian Mullahs ruling
in the country to be overturned or zealot religious aspect dropped,
because the people of Iran would like to see Iran
be a normal country, trading with the world and prospering.

(11:29):
And Iran would prosper if this radical religion were not
present in Iran. It's just I don't see any way
to remove it by a regime chains that's imposed by
the United States, as change has got to come from
within Iran right now, Does the military within Iran support
the Mullahs, Yes, the military does support the Mullahs and

(11:52):
the Revolutionary Guard and other paramilitary forces like what they
call this Baijij and you'll see them when there's a
green revolution or revolution in the streets in Iran. The
Baijish go around in motorcycles and their paramilitary and they
beat people. The Iran has control of the internal force,

(12:13):
the military, the Revolutionary Guard, the regime is in control
of all the legitimate force. The people in Iran are
disarmed and really vulnerable to being arrested, thrown into prison, killed,
never heard of again, disappearing. It's a very dangerous place
Iran to protest. Yeah, it sued us and in terms

(12:37):
of a timetable here, Jerry, what is your crystal ball
show you? Well, I think, George, we're in a very
critical period right now with Iran. In the next two
to three months. Every day has the potential to be
another incident, another drone shot down, another tanker, the Iran attacks,
another shooting incident, and if Americans are killed in one

(13:00):
of these shooting incidents, President Trump is going to be
pressed to retaliate. I cannot allow American lives to be
killed by Iranians, or ships to be seas or other
incidents that caused us such a shock. What I'm always
concerned about with these incidents is the you know, the
Tonkan golf and the false flag. Well, that's possible, and

(13:23):
it's possible, and I think the President Trump is really
to date exercising a kind of restraint which I've not
seen in American leadership, going back to Lyndon Johnson and
the Vietnam War with the Tonkan golf incident to all
too often American presidents have used these incidents as a

(13:44):
as an excuse to launch a war, and then we
get into another whole series of problems. Takes another ten
or fifteen years and the war. That's the problem we've
got right now in Afghanistan, that we've got in Iraq,
you know, the Syrian issue. All the wars tend to
expand in the Middle East and they're never ending, and
I don't want to see us get into another war.

(14:04):
But I'm very, very worried George when he asked, what
the short fuse is the next two to three months,
and we could easily be in an incident in with Iran.
There would cause is shooting war to occur. And like
you say, the so called and I'm not trying to
be funny here, the trump card is Russia, Yes, because
Russia is in the background right now. Iran is working

(14:29):
out a summit with Turkey and Russia to try to
get economic assistance from Russia and Turkey to ease the
impact of the sanctions. What we're trying to do with
Iran is cut off their oil being exported, and we're
basically denying them the use of US banks and US

(14:49):
financial institutions trying to get countries who are now receiving
exported oil from Iran to stop China it has also
play a player here with buying oil from Iran. They're
not going to stop. But I think the major issue
is the summit coming up with Turkey and Russia and

(15:12):
Iran could easily develop some new economic assistance for Iran,
which would perpetuate the crisis well. And this is so ironic.
Turkey was one of the reasons the Russians and sixty
two started to move missiles into Cuba because we had
missiles in Turkey, and now it seems that our relationship
with Turkey is strained more than ever right Georgia. In fact,

(15:36):
part of the Cuban missile crisis that was kept secret
initially was that President Kennedy agreed to remove the missiles
from Cuba, not immediately, a little bit after Russia from
from Turkey from Turkey from Turkey. So Russia first removed
its missiles from Cuba, and then months later President Kennedy

(15:56):
removed our missiles from Turkey, which nobody really realized we
had in Turkey at the time. I mean, it was
known only by experts, and when the United States removes
the missiles from Turkey, it was not announced publicly. So
at one point, going back to the sixties, we had
good relations with Turkey, but the current regime in Turkey

(16:18):
is Aratagon has really been radicalizing Turkey. Turkey used to
be a secular country with Islam. They were the Caliphate.
The Ottoman Empire going back a hundred years or more
was centered in Turkey and it was Sunni and Aratagon

(16:39):
has really radicalized Islam, increasingly moving towards a more and
more radical form of Islam. And of course Russia has
a lot of Islamic population in various countries, and including
the ex Soviet Union which are bordering now Russia, Azerbaijan
and all these other countries have very substantial Muslim populations.

(17:02):
And in Chechnia, Russia has experienced some very severe Islamic terrorism.
So Russia is very sensitive to the Islamic issue and
has always been aligned with Ayatollah Komani and with the
alliance between Russia and Iran, which is counterbalancing the United
States's influence in the Middle East. Listen to more Coast

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