March 15, 2023 • 16 mins
George Noory and author Tim Swartz discuss his findings about creatures that live among us and disguise themselves as humans to function in modern society, if they may actually be fairies, demons or even aliens on Earth and the moon, and if they will try to take over the planet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,
Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.
Tim Schwartz back with us, Indiana native and Emmy Award
winning television producer, videographer, author of a number of popular books,
including Alien Artifacts, Tim Schwartz's Big Book of Extraterrestrial Encounters,
(00:20):
The Last Journals of Nicola Tesla, and so many more.
Tim is also the co host with Gene Steinberg on
the radio show The Pedecast and his latest book that
has just come out is called Mimics The Others among
Us that he wrote with Sean's Castile. Tim, welcome back,
my friend. Have you been why? Thank you George. I've
been great and as always, it's a real pleasure talking
(00:43):
with you again. I'm looking forward to this one. This
one is a strange story, isn't it. It really is
a strange story. But I tell you it's amazing once
you get into this subject and start looking into it,
how much our history has really been intertwined with whatever
(01:04):
these things are. How did the subject matter come to
your attention? Well, it first came to me years and
years ago, and George you're probably too young to remember this,
but you know, there was a time when you could
go to the drug store and actually by quality paperback
books on paranormal subjects, and they're usually about, you know,
(01:27):
fifty seventy five cents each, just perfectly affordable for you know,
a kid interested in the stuff. Well, I ran into
this book called Our Haunted Planet by John Keel And
in this book he had just a little section and
it really was more of a stepping off point talking
(01:51):
about other subjects, but he subtitled this section called Mimics
of Man, and in it he said that what basics
fact should be obvious from the foregoing, these entities and
things are not necessarily from other planet. They're closely tied
to the human race. And he said that living among
(02:14):
us undetected maybe creatures not necessarily aliens with all the
outward appearances of human beings, and he called the mimics
of man, and the mimic would of necessary, of necessity
be a lone wolf, likely living in large, bustling cities
(02:34):
where it's eccentric and the odd may flourish unhindered. And
that just fascinated me, you know, the idea that there
could be things not human looking like human, but managing
to live among us for whatever reasons. What are they
(02:54):
lacking to him to not be human? Well that really
all the ends on just exactly what we're dealing with,
and that's what the subject of this of this book
is because the the mimics have gone by all kinds
of different names throughout history and and they've been with
(03:16):
us almost probably almost from the very very beginning. I mean,
we've called them things like gods, angels, demons, uh, fairies,
extraterrestrial you know, you're more modern idea for them. So
you know, it just hit. It really just all depends
(03:37):
on what what these things are, and that's what we
hope to try to uncover with this book. Are they
intentionally disguising themselves? I yeah, definitely. Um, if if we
are dealing with say like just you know, just just
(03:59):
let's just frmally put this in the material world with
maybe a creature that is um either prey or predator
to people, you know, because humans at this point, you know,
we've gotten to the point where there's no other predators
(04:20):
to us on the planet. Well what if there is?
What if there was a species that actually evolved right
alongside us to prey on us. And you know, and
we don't mean religious prayer either, doing exactly exactly you know,
I mean, you know, in the natural world, you know,
(04:41):
you've got to say, like insects who actually will look
just like their prey so they can sit around and
wait for an I'm suspecting victim to go buy. Now,
I'm not saying, you know that these things are you know,
necessarily something that preys on us. They may look like
us to protect themselves. Interesting, now you mentioned John Keel
(05:03):
was one who wrote about them. Any others in history
that have kind of discussed this, well, you know it's
like I said, you know, you go and you look at,
say like a fairy lore. I think is really a
good example of these things that have interacted with society.
(05:25):
Now when I say fairies, people just automatically go to,
you know, like the Tingerbell type of creatures, you know,
something you know, a little and short and glowing with
wings flying around. But through most of history, when it
comes to people dealing with these types of things, and
like I said, they've called them says and lepre cons
(05:46):
and the good people. The good people is really an
excellent name to call them, because they have kind of
lived on the outskirts of our society and interact with
us when they want to, not when we want to.
(06:06):
And they've interacted with us in all kinds of different ways,
from actually either buying or stealing food from us to
actually having romantic relationships with people. Geez. Yeah, well, I
mean that's that's a telling point too, because they could
(06:28):
be related to us in some way. Yeah, you know,
because most of the time, you know, interspecies romance is
just an't work. Do they live among us or are
they down in some cavern or something like that, Well,
maybe a little both. You know, there's there's the idea
that they could be a race of say like a
(06:52):
cousin species of humans of hominence and albeit a more
gentle species, and at some time in our ancient past
that they decided that they're going to get the heck
away from us, you know, we're too violent, and they
at first they lived on the outskirts of society, in
(07:14):
their cities and villages or what have you. You know,
we're out you know, in the desert or in the mountains.
But as people became more you know, the world became
more populous with with Homo sapiens. This species said, you know,
you know, we got to get out of here and
maybe moved underground or under the ocean. They or some
(07:38):
could actually have moved in, you know, with us and
live amongst us. I mean, there are a lot of
stories that we've collected in this book of people having
sightings of things that appear to be human but don't
act like humans. Do these mimics know what they are? Oh? Yes, yes,
(08:02):
I think they definitely do. Whether again, whether or not
we're dealing with if you know, material, physical beings, uh, paranormal, extraterrestrial,
what have you. These things definitely know that they are different,
and they use that difference to their advantage. You know.
(08:24):
The I think one of the things that has allowed
them to exist all this time is their ability to subterfuge.
You know, they they are very good at disguising themselves.
They're very good at staying hidden until they want to
be seen. Well with Tim Schwartz, co author of the
(08:47):
latest book, Mimics the Others among Us, these beings, do
they lack a soul? Oh? Wow, that's uh, that's really
the million dollar question. Do we have a soul? We
do right, right? Um, I think that they probably do.
(09:09):
Uh you know, I I think that whatever they are again,
whether they're physical or you know, interdimensional or what had you,
they probably have a soul just like us. Did they
come to us in craft or were they born on
(09:31):
this planet? Well, that's one of the things that in
this book that we really hoped to do, is to
detangle the others from the whole u UFO phenomena. In
modern times, the two have really become intertwined with with
(09:53):
stories of human looking extraterrestrials or the men in Black
even things like that. So I think that and you know, George, uh,
your guests really is as good as mine. I mean,
there could be a factor that are strictly extraterrestrial. I'm
(10:15):
not going to throw that idea out, but I think
that probably at least the major aspect of the phenomena
of the Mimics is that this is something that has
been on our planets probably as long as we have.
And this, of course book is not a nonfictional novel.
(10:38):
I mean a fictional novel. This is a nonfictional book,
isn't it. This is correct, Yes, this is this is
nonfiction and we've myself Sean Castile, And as you said
in the opening, I mean, you know, we've got some
really great writers like Scott Corrallis and Nigel Watson, you know,
people like that who hitters. Yea, Yeah, contributed to this
(11:01):
book with these these fascinating stories, again stretching back across
time really long before say like the modern UFO era.
But I think that the modern era has really helped
bring this idea to the forefront. You have highlighted some
(11:25):
examples of individuals who have had encounters with these beings,
one being the late remote viewer Ingo Swan. Ingo Swan,
who who are very well known for working with the
government intelligence services with his remote viewing abilities. He was
(11:46):
one time task to actually remote view the dark side
of the Moon and given very specific latitude and longitudes
lunar latitudes and longitudes. And when he actually started viewing
this location, he said that he saw human looking beings
(12:13):
on the surface of the moon without what didn't appeared
to like if they had any kind of protection on them.
And the frightening thing to him was that they became
aware that he was looking at them. So after this
initial encounter, when Ingo was in Los Angeles, with a
(12:37):
friend and in a supermarket he came across this, as
he described her, an extremely beautiful woman wearing you know,
shorts and a tank top and just just absolutely stunning.
And he said that as he got closer, she was
(12:59):
looking at the avocados, very interested in the avocados. When
he got closer, he was struck with a feeling of terror,
overwhelmed his senses, and he got the impression first of all,
that this woman was not human, that she looked human,
(13:20):
looked like a very beautiful human, but she wasn't and
that if she became aware that he knew that what
she was, his life would probably be in danger. Interesting
are they working among us? I mean, do they have jobs?
Do they have social Security cards? You know? That was
(13:42):
one of the things that the early contacted movement, starting
in the nineteen fifties, with people like George Damski and
Howard Menger, talked quite a bit about that these beings
space brothers as they called them, looked so human that
(14:04):
they actually managed to infiltrate our society, living amongst us,
working with us for whatever reasons. Now, of course, the contactees,
you know, the space brothers, were telling them that you
know they were there to help mankind that we were
going to destroy ourselves with atomic weapons, and that they
(14:29):
actually were using their influence because they looked so much
like us within business and politics, to help steer us
away towards a more peaceful society. And I think that
various governments really took this to heart, that we were
(14:52):
being infiltrated. And of course this idea in nineteen fifties,
I mean it fit right in with the cold or
mentality that was going on at the time, you know,
I mean not only were government's afraid that, say, the
Communist you know, we're you know, hiding everywhere. Yeah, yeah,
(15:13):
we were so paranoid about it too, right, So I mean,
you know, think about you worried about the Soviet Union
infiltrating this What about a superior race of extraterrestrials that
that that could be living amongst us, That that was
a big worry. What did you find in your research
(15:34):
with the book, Tim that was so profound it still
has you shaking your head? Well, I think the most
profound thing about all of this book is just really
how um pervasive this whole phenomena is that um that
(16:00):
that we have sharing the planet with us another intelligence,
all right, that we're not alone. Not only are we
not alone probably in the universe, but that we share
this planet with another, possibly superior intelligence that's been with
(16:23):
us this entire time, that has been possibly manipulating society
through a religion, culture, other types of things, and that
our history is probably just as much part of their
(16:45):
history as well. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM
every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast
to Coast am dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,
Welcome back to Coast to Coast, George Nori with you.
Tim Schwartz back with us, Indiana native and Emmy Award
winning television producer, videographer, author of a number of popular books,
including Alien Artifacts, Tim Schwartz's Big Book of Extraterrestrial Encounters,
(00:20):
The Last Journals of Nicola Tesla, and so many more.
Tim is also the co host with Gene Steinberg on
the radio show The Pedecast and his latest book that
has just come out is called Mimics The Others among
Us that he wrote with Sean's Castile. Tim, welcome back,
my friend. Have you been why? Thank you George. I've
been great and as always, it's a real pleasure talking
(00:43):
with you again. I'm looking forward to this one. This
one is a strange story, isn't it. It really is
a strange story. But I tell you it's amazing once
you get into this subject and start looking into it,
how much our history has really been intertwined with whatever
(01:04):
these things are. How did the subject matter come to
your attention? Well, it first came to me years and
years ago, and George you're probably too young to remember this,
but you know, there was a time when you could
go to the drug store and actually by quality paperback
books on paranormal subjects, and they're usually about, you know,
(01:27):
fifty seventy five cents each, just perfectly affordable for you know,
a kid interested in the stuff. Well, I ran into
this book called Our Haunted Planet by John Keel And
in this book he had just a little section and
it really was more of a stepping off point talking
(01:51):
about other subjects, but he subtitled this section called Mimics
of Man, and in it he said that what basics
fact should be obvious from the foregoing, these entities and
things are not necessarily from other planet. They're closely tied
to the human race. And he said that living among
(02:14):
us undetected maybe creatures not necessarily aliens with all the
outward appearances of human beings, and he called the mimics
of man, and the mimic would of necessary, of necessity
be a lone wolf, likely living in large, bustling cities
(02:34):
where it's eccentric and the odd may flourish unhindered. And
that just fascinated me, you know, the idea that there
could be things not human looking like human, but managing
to live among us for whatever reasons. What are they
(02:54):
lacking to him to not be human? Well that really
all the ends on just exactly what we're dealing with,
and that's what the subject of this of this book
is because the the mimics have gone by all kinds
of different names throughout history and and they've been with
(03:16):
us almost probably almost from the very very beginning. I mean,
we've called them things like gods, angels, demons, uh, fairies,
extraterrestrial you know, you're more modern idea for them. So
you know, it just hit. It really just all depends
(03:37):
on what what these things are, and that's what we
hope to try to uncover with this book. Are they
intentionally disguising themselves? I yeah, definitely. Um, if if we
are dealing with say like just you know, just just
(03:59):
let's just frmally put this in the material world with
maybe a creature that is um either prey or predator
to people, you know, because humans at this point, you know,
we've gotten to the point where there's no other predators
(04:20):
to us on the planet. Well what if there is?
What if there was a species that actually evolved right
alongside us to prey on us. And you know, and
we don't mean religious prayer either, doing exactly exactly you know,
I mean, you know, in the natural world, you know,
(04:41):
you've got to say, like insects who actually will look
just like their prey so they can sit around and
wait for an I'm suspecting victim to go buy. Now,
I'm not saying, you know that these things are you know,
necessarily something that preys on us. They may look like
us to protect themselves. Interesting, now you mentioned John Keel
(05:03):
was one who wrote about them. Any others in history
that have kind of discussed this, well, you know it's
like I said, you know, you go and you look at,
say like a fairy lore. I think is really a
good example of these things that have interacted with society.
(05:25):
Now when I say fairies, people just automatically go to,
you know, like the Tingerbell type of creatures, you know,
something you know, a little and short and glowing with
wings flying around. But through most of history, when it
comes to people dealing with these types of things, and
like I said, they've called them says and lepre cons
(05:46):
and the good people. The good people is really an
excellent name to call them, because they have kind of
lived on the outskirts of our society and interact with
us when they want to, not when we want to.
(06:06):
And they've interacted with us in all kinds of different ways,
from actually either buying or stealing food from us to
actually having romantic relationships with people. Geez. Yeah, well, I
mean that's that's a telling point too, because they could
(06:28):
be related to us in some way. Yeah, you know,
because most of the time, you know, interspecies romance is
just an't work. Do they live among us or are
they down in some cavern or something like that, Well,
maybe a little both. You know, there's there's the idea
that they could be a race of say like a
(06:52):
cousin species of humans of hominence and albeit a more
gentle species, and at some time in our ancient past
that they decided that they're going to get the heck
away from us, you know, we're too violent, and they
at first they lived on the outskirts of society, in
(07:14):
their cities and villages or what have you. You know,
we're out you know, in the desert or in the mountains.
But as people became more you know, the world became
more populous with with Homo sapiens. This species said, you know,
you know, we got to get out of here and
maybe moved underground or under the ocean. They or some
(07:38):
could actually have moved in, you know, with us and
live amongst us. I mean, there are a lot of
stories that we've collected in this book of people having
sightings of things that appear to be human but don't
act like humans. Do these mimics know what they are? Oh? Yes, yes,
(08:02):
I think they definitely do. Whether again, whether or not
we're dealing with if you know, material, physical beings, uh, paranormal, extraterrestrial,
what have you. These things definitely know that they are different,
and they use that difference to their advantage. You know.
(08:24):
The I think one of the things that has allowed
them to exist all this time is their ability to subterfuge.
You know, they they are very good at disguising themselves.
They're very good at staying hidden until they want to
be seen. Well with Tim Schwartz, co author of the
(08:47):
latest book, Mimics the Others among Us, these beings, do
they lack a soul? Oh? Wow, that's uh, that's really
the million dollar question. Do we have a soul? We
do right, right? Um, I think that they probably do.
(09:09):
Uh you know, I I think that whatever they are again,
whether they're physical or you know, interdimensional or what had you,
they probably have a soul just like us. Did they
come to us in craft or were they born on
(09:31):
this planet? Well, that's one of the things that in
this book that we really hoped to do, is to
detangle the others from the whole u UFO phenomena. In
modern times, the two have really become intertwined with with
(09:53):
stories of human looking extraterrestrials or the men in Black
even things like that. So I think that and you know, George, uh,
your guests really is as good as mine. I mean,
there could be a factor that are strictly extraterrestrial. I'm
(10:15):
not going to throw that idea out, but I think
that probably at least the major aspect of the phenomena
of the Mimics is that this is something that has
been on our planets probably as long as we have.
And this, of course book is not a nonfictional novel.
(10:38):
I mean a fictional novel. This is a nonfictional book,
isn't it. This is correct, Yes, this is this is
nonfiction and we've myself Sean Castile, And as you said
in the opening, I mean, you know, we've got some
really great writers like Scott Corrallis and Nigel Watson, you know,
people like that who hitters. Yea, Yeah, contributed to this
(11:01):
book with these these fascinating stories, again stretching back across
time really long before say like the modern UFO era.
But I think that the modern era has really helped
bring this idea to the forefront. You have highlighted some
(11:25):
examples of individuals who have had encounters with these beings,
one being the late remote viewer Ingo Swan. Ingo Swan,
who who are very well known for working with the
government intelligence services with his remote viewing abilities. He was
(11:46):
one time task to actually remote view the dark side
of the Moon and given very specific latitude and longitudes
lunar latitudes and longitudes. And when he actually started viewing
this location, he said that he saw human looking beings
(12:13):
on the surface of the moon without what didn't appeared
to like if they had any kind of protection on them.
And the frightening thing to him was that they became
aware that he was looking at them. So after this
initial encounter, when Ingo was in Los Angeles, with a
(12:37):
friend and in a supermarket he came across this, as
he described her, an extremely beautiful woman wearing you know,
shorts and a tank top and just just absolutely stunning.
And he said that as he got closer, she was
(12:59):
looking at the avocados, very interested in the avocados. When
he got closer, he was struck with a feeling of terror,
overwhelmed his senses, and he got the impression first of all,
that this woman was not human, that she looked human,
(13:20):
looked like a very beautiful human, but she wasn't and
that if she became aware that he knew that what
she was, his life would probably be in danger. Interesting
are they working among us? I mean, do they have jobs?
Do they have social Security cards? You know? That was
(13:42):
one of the things that the early contacted movement, starting
in the nineteen fifties, with people like George Damski and
Howard Menger, talked quite a bit about that these beings
space brothers as they called them, looked so human that
(14:04):
they actually managed to infiltrate our society, living amongst us,
working with us for whatever reasons. Now, of course, the contactees,
you know, the space brothers, were telling them that you
know they were there to help mankind that we were
going to destroy ourselves with atomic weapons, and that they
(14:29):
actually were using their influence because they looked so much
like us within business and politics, to help steer us
away towards a more peaceful society. And I think that
various governments really took this to heart, that we were
(14:52):
being infiltrated. And of course this idea in nineteen fifties,
I mean it fit right in with the cold or
mentality that was going on at the time, you know,
I mean not only were government's afraid that, say, the
Communist you know, we're you know, hiding everywhere. Yeah, yeah,
(15:13):
we were so paranoid about it too, right, So I mean,
you know, think about you worried about the Soviet Union
infiltrating this What about a superior race of extraterrestrials that
that that could be living amongst us, That that was
a big worry. What did you find in your research
(15:34):
with the book, Tim that was so profound it still
has you shaking your head? Well, I think the most
profound thing about all of this book is just really
how um pervasive this whole phenomena is that um that
(16:00):
that we have sharing the planet with us another intelligence,
all right, that we're not alone. Not only are we
not alone probably in the universe, but that we share
this planet with another, possibly superior intelligence that's been with
(16:23):
us this entire time, that has been possibly manipulating society
through a religion, culture, other types of things, and that
our history is probably just as much part of their
(16:45):
history as well. Listen to more Coast to Coast AM
every weeknight at one am Eastern, and go to Coast
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