February 8, 2025 • 18 mins
Guest host Rich Berra and music historian Harvey Kubernik celebrate the anniversary of the Beatles' historic performance on the Ed Sullivan Show that ushered in the rock music era, how many classic rock bands are still winning Grammy Awards today, and the renewed interest in vinyl records with music fans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm your host,
Rich Barre. Let's talk about Harvey Kubernick. He's an American author,
journalist in music historian. From the mid seventies, he wrote
for music publications such as Melody Maker in the Los
Angeles Free Press. His articles, interviews and reviews has since
been published in multiple magazines and newspapers, and he is
(00:25):
the author of Get This, ten books on popular music,
and he keeps going for several decades. He also worked
as a director for MCA Records and as a record
producer too. We got a lot to talk about tonight.
There's a lot of music. The music of our childhood
is back in full HD. It seems like right now.
Welcome to the show, Harvey Kupernick. Harvey, nice to meet you, finally,
(00:46):
nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Really happy to be invited to be a guest.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I know we had to reschedule. I think we had
you scheduled for October and we weren't able to do that.
So I really appreciate your patients, and I'm really excited
to talk to you tonight and I was just thinking
about this as we were coming on sixty years ago,
six decades ago this weekend, the Beatles came to America,
and that was a little bit of a seismic shift.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, sure it Actually it was sixty one years, you know,
one years Okay, Yeah, But like this Sunday will be
the sixty first anniversary of their debut appearance on The
Ed Sullivan Show. You know, one thing, I mean, that
was a very monumental booking. But I think people, as
we look back, they already had a number one record
(01:36):
in the United States, if I want to hold your
hand when they arrived. But certainly the Ed Sullivan Show
appearance to tailed you know, their work out there, and
here we are, two thirds of a century later, still
mesmerized by them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Take me back there a little bit, because I feel
like this is a little bit before my time, The
Ed Sullivan Show. But as I grow up listening to
bands and listening to shows like rock Line, I mean,
just about every band that came from the seventies and
eighties talked about that night watching The Ed Sullivan Show
and having something shift inside him. I mean, every band
(02:16):
I can think of Heart I mean, you know, Brian
Adams van Halen, the guys from Toto, all of these
guys that just said now I need to do that.
We're watching TV that night. How big was that show
back in the.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Day, you know, for many of us, and I wasn't
even a teenager yet. Ed Sullivan was our Sunday school teacher.
He had you know, musicians on, He had rock and
roll people on. He had Elvis Presley on in the fifties,
so it was sort of must must watch TV. But
(02:53):
when the Beatles arrived and my friend Stevie van Zaan,
who people know from the Sopranos or Being and Bruce
Springsteen band, he said that the day after the Beatles
were in in Sullivan, everybody had a band. It was
I mean, there's all kinds of theories about why it
(03:13):
impacted us. Yes, we were coming out of a very
dreary November, December and January, you know, late sixty three,
early sixty four, following the John F. Kennedy assassination. But
the world was changing and they kind of arrived at
a time where, you know, at least this country needed them,
(03:38):
and they'd already made big splashes in Europe and England
and France. But you know, if I have a theory
about why the influence continues, and now that I look back,
in a weird way, they were selling American music and
American rooted sounds back at us because there is influences
(04:00):
came from America and Hollywood and Los Angeles and Detroit
with motown. So they were kind of bringing us material
or a repertoire that we kind of already knew about.
But then it just got fortified visually by their clothing
and their hair and the big machine behind them as well.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
There is something too, I think about the blues from
America when it goes through the British filter, that it
comes back a little different but pretty appealing.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, do is listen to the Rolling Stones? And so
they took it a little deeper and edgier, you know,
through the music of Sun Records. But still it's America
back through the lens of hardcore music fans, and we
(04:53):
needed it and we still need it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, let's let me ask you about this. It's twenty
twenty five. I means, were on last weekend the Beatles
won a Grammy and the Rolling Stones won a Grammy.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, you know, there's many things to say about that,
But the fact is they're still relevant. The music from
the era is still relevant because it's multi generational now
and you know, the record collections are passed down from
(05:26):
the grandparents to the parents to the kids, and so
it's so planted in everybody's environment that we get reminded.
And also with them, the Beatles and the Stones winning Grammys,
it was an interesting balance to the new music and
the new like sonic explorations, you know, being tossed at us,
(05:51):
and I'm all for it. I'm just thankful for the
existence of them.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, Rolling Stones actually one best rock album of the
year for the Hackney Diamonds, and I thought, and all
those guys are in their eighties. I'm not exaggerating either, right,
they're in their eighties.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, in jazz there are some people that well
into their eighties and their nineties. And the blues people
that I was very fortunate to see and meet, whether
it be Muddy Waters or Bo Diddley or Chuck Berry,
we didn't really hear them in America, and I'm talking
in live settings until they were in their forties into
their fifties, and they worked well until their seventies or
(06:36):
in the case of Chuck Berry at least until his
mid eighties. So it's nothing. It's sort of unique. But again,
the Masters had already paved the way for this. But
I think, you know, when I first heard the Rolling
Stones in nineteen sixty four, did I think that, you know,
(06:58):
they'd still be touring last year in America? You know.
And I've met the Beatles and I've met the Stones,
and we've talked about longevity and durability and influence and
all of them, and especially the record producer manager Andrew
lu Golden, who guided and helped, you know, bring the
Rolling Stones to us. He has always told me when
(07:21):
rock and roll happened in Britain and they were coming
to America, people thought it was a career that was
going to be like a two or three year wingspan.
Nobody was thinking of you know, they were bands before
they were brands. But nobody thought the stuff would last
for decades or almost be past a half century mark.
(07:45):
It was inconceivable. I mean, even Ringo in the early
interviews talked about his future plans of maybe being only
a hairdressing salon or something like that. I mean, nobody
saw the length of the race well.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's a good point you bring up, because you know,
I go to music school, I'm a musician myself and
have worked on the radio forever, and a lot of
people we talk about music say, well, there are no
bands that have those kind of careers anymore, and I'm
quick to point out, well, that's not supposed to be. Ever,
what it was the long careers the exception to the rule,
not the rule. You know, a lot more songs that
(08:21):
are one hit wonders where people have won two albums
and then they're out right. The fact that you know,
Beatlestone's Eagles have gone on so long is the exception,
not the rule.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Most of the answer, it often comes down to the
material and the song. The song is key. I mean,
you know, even if it's DM music or instrumental music,
the sound, the sonic blast, the relationship the audience has
with the music is the key. Surely, the visual element,
(08:56):
especially in our post MTV world, plays a part, and
the big marketing machinations and all that, but the song
sort of has to be good for it to even
hang for a while, or you won't hear it again,
or maybe you won't see the people playing the tune.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And what about the Beatles. I think is interesting too.
Somebody pointed this out to me over the last few weeks.
If you think about their body of work, it was
all within eight years. They were thirty. They weren't even
thirty yet when they stopped as the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know, I've written a lot about the Beatles, and
they arrived at a time and I think your listeners
and of course yourself, you would know this. They they
made music. They had management, they had agents, they had publicists,
(09:51):
they had music publishers. And unlike today where groups have
clothing lines or oh, nightclubs and various you know, items
of branding, which is totally fine, their focus was very
regimented of record an album, record singles. You'll be going
(10:13):
on this tour, you'll have you know, a holiday for
a while. I mean, I've always said this. Paul McCartney
never had to go to Kinko's to make xeroxes of
sheet music. These things were done for him. So the
focus was primarily on creating the music. And now many people,
(10:35):
especially in our current world, know how to do a
lot of multitasking, but they were not businessmen exclusively. They
were working musicians and they didn't have to worry about it,
So I think the climate was a little different. Plus again,
(10:55):
and Graham Nash and I have talked about this, but
these bands that were dressing beetlestones, even the Hollies, Gram Nash,
they're coming out of World War two, you know, they're
coming out of a world childhood of rubble and war
and smoke and fire. So rock and roll was a
(11:17):
new sort of agency for them, and it translated to us.
And you know, I think they put so much into
it because they were coming out of World War two.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So totally different work ethic and a totally different minimized
versions of distractions. For like, now I don't think you
can be an artist. You probably won't get signed if
you don't have a good social media presence.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Right Well, you're talking to an author somehow. There is
twenty books where I looked at a couple of recent
deals presented, but my I wasn't on TikTok and so
the let's just say the meeting wasn't as long as it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Should have been.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well there's something to that there, like who can we
connect to right away?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I like the way it's going organically, just the way
it is.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It seems like now you have to make if you're
if you're a band musician or whatever you are, there's
definitely a different way that you make your living. It's
not from selling records anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh no, Listen, Historically, musicians made their money on the road,
especially jazz musicians and blues musicians and you know, pre
webin intranets and when people were selling vinyl, and this
translated into the mid eighties when the CD you know,
(12:44):
configuration arrived, people were getting revenue streams from record sales.
Now people make their money on the road or streaming
or direct you know, to their to the consumer. It's
a whole different world and maybe a bit of a
more level playing field, but there is still the desire.
(13:08):
I mean, a couple of years ago, I remember billbro
reported vinyl outsold CDs for the first time. Yeah, yeah, right.
There's an aspect of vinyl. It's kind of a romantic expedition,
either if you're by yourself or with someone because you
are it doesn't have the portability of a CD or
(13:31):
listening to something on your phone or earbuds or something.
You are trapped sitting down listening to something on vinyl.
Maybe you have to flip over the vinyl where there's
another six songs. But we've seen, you know, vinyl makes
it still makes a very deep impression to people. And
it's one of the things that I really enjoy because
(13:53):
I'm pelted with a lot of new music, but I'm
also have access to a lot of re releases or
reissues by record labels like High Moon Records that put
out like deluxe remastered big you know albums from forty
to fifty to sixty years ago that were like neglected
or overlooked or never had proper distribution with like twenty
(14:17):
four and thirty six page booklets. And it's a deeper
journey sometimes where you listen to something you know on
the internet where you'll see the album cover or a
description of the music. But some people, record collectors and
a lot of a lot of people like having that
(14:40):
physical plastic in their hands.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, you own it. It's something that you own when
we were when we were kids, I mean, there weren't
as many things coming out like there is now, Like
where there's probably a couple of hundred releases a day,
there is only a few big albums that would come
out a month. But what I love about this generation.
In fact, as we speak week right now, my step
son is in a room next to me listening to records,
(15:04):
not empty three's, he's listening to records. My daughter works
at a record store, like the fourteen fifteen, sixteen year
olds like vinyl, and they're they're not necessarily always buying
new stuff. My daughter came home last week and she
had the new Gracie Abrams album, but she also had
Dolly Parton in her hand, and I think I think
(15:24):
she even had like a Jimmy Page album Outrider, like
a from led Zeppelin's. So she had all kinds of
crazy variety. And that's what I'm seeing with what's happening
now is of course you could go on Spotify or
you know, iHeartRadio and punch up whatever and it's right
at your fingertips, but owning it in your hand and
listening to it all the way through it, it's it's great.
(15:47):
That's what we used to do. We used to read
the liner notes when we were kids. Wow, that's how
we got so obsessed.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You're talking to a guy that you know, put himself
at least through college the first couple of years working
in a library, and I was just always drawn to
the liner notes and the back covers, who wrote the
songs and all that, But I also liked the words
on the albums and it made it just a big
(16:15):
impact on me on a lot of people where there
was a sense of discovery and you felt you wanted
to take the journey with the record and I listen.
I know a lot of people stared at the front
cover or rolled a joint on the front cover or
whatever it was, but the back cover had the deep secrets, and.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's really all you knew about that artist because they
didn't have a running social media thing. There was some mystery,
like until they came to town and you saw them
when you went to go to see their concert. All
you knew before there was MTV was whatever they showed
you on that album or the inside of the album
rights that was your connection to your artists. There's something
(17:00):
special about that that I'm glad that it's kind of
making a bit of a resurgence.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well. I just like the fact that we have choices.
We can listen to new indie groups like Man's Body,
or we can buy a big box seut of the
you know, the deluxe edition of Sergeant Pepper. I mean
later this year is the sixtieth anniversary of the Beatles
(17:26):
Rubber Soul. There'll probably be some hullabaloo about that, maybe
a re reissue or re release, maybe some bonus tracks.
We want more. We also when I see we, all
of us, we're so invested in this music as a
(17:47):
sometimes as a survival situation, confidence, you know, companionship, that
we also know a lot about the music business now,
the industry now then we knew ten and twenty and
thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
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Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. I'm your host,
Rich Barre. Let's talk about Harvey Kubernick. He's an American author,
journalist in music historian. From the mid seventies, he wrote
for music publications such as Melody Maker in the Los
Angeles Free Press. His articles, interviews and reviews has since
been published in multiple magazines and newspapers, and he is
(00:25):
the author of Get This, ten books on popular music,
and he keeps going for several decades. He also worked
as a director for MCA Records and as a record
producer too. We got a lot to talk about tonight.
There's a lot of music. The music of our childhood
is back in full HD. It seems like right now.
Welcome to the show, Harvey Kupernick. Harvey, nice to meet you, finally,
(00:46):
nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Really happy to be invited to be a guest.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I know we had to reschedule. I think we had
you scheduled for October and we weren't able to do that.
So I really appreciate your patients, and I'm really excited
to talk to you tonight and I was just thinking
about this as we were coming on sixty years ago,
six decades ago this weekend, the Beatles came to America,
and that was a little bit of a seismic shift.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, sure it Actually it was sixty one years, you know,
one years Okay, Yeah, But like this Sunday will be
the sixty first anniversary of their debut appearance on The
Ed Sullivan Show. You know, one thing, I mean, that
was a very monumental booking. But I think people, as
we look back, they already had a number one record
(01:36):
in the United States, if I want to hold your
hand when they arrived. But certainly the Ed Sullivan Show
appearance to tailed you know, their work out there, and
here we are, two thirds of a century later, still
mesmerized by them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Take me back there a little bit, because I feel
like this is a little bit before my time, The
Ed Sullivan Show. But as I grow up listening to
bands and listening to shows like rock Line, I mean,
just about every band that came from the seventies and
eighties talked about that night watching The Ed Sullivan Show
and having something shift inside him. I mean, every band
(02:16):
I can think of Heart I mean, you know, Brian
Adams van Halen, the guys from Toto, all of these
guys that just said now I need to do that.
We're watching TV that night. How big was that show
back in the.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Day, you know, for many of us, and I wasn't
even a teenager yet. Ed Sullivan was our Sunday school teacher.
He had you know, musicians on, He had rock and
roll people on. He had Elvis Presley on in the fifties,
so it was sort of must must watch TV. But
(02:53):
when the Beatles arrived and my friend Stevie van Zaan,
who people know from the Sopranos or Being and Bruce
Springsteen band, he said that the day after the Beatles
were in in Sullivan, everybody had a band. It was
I mean, there's all kinds of theories about why it
(03:13):
impacted us. Yes, we were coming out of a very
dreary November, December and January, you know, late sixty three,
early sixty four, following the John F. Kennedy assassination. But
the world was changing and they kind of arrived at
a time where, you know, at least this country needed them,
(03:38):
and they'd already made big splashes in Europe and England
and France. But you know, if I have a theory
about why the influence continues, and now that I look back,
in a weird way, they were selling American music and
American rooted sounds back at us because there is influences
(04:00):
came from America and Hollywood and Los Angeles and Detroit
with motown. So they were kind of bringing us material
or a repertoire that we kind of already knew about.
But then it just got fortified visually by their clothing
and their hair and the big machine behind them as well.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
There is something too, I think about the blues from
America when it goes through the British filter, that it
comes back a little different but pretty appealing.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, do is listen to the Rolling Stones? And so
they took it a little deeper and edgier, you know,
through the music of Sun Records. But still it's America
back through the lens of hardcore music fans, and we
(04:53):
needed it and we still need it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, let's let me ask you about this. It's twenty
twenty five. I means, were on last weekend the Beatles
won a Grammy and the Rolling Stones won a Grammy.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, you know, there's many things to say about that,
But the fact is they're still relevant. The music from
the era is still relevant because it's multi generational now
and you know, the record collections are passed down from
(05:26):
the grandparents to the parents to the kids, and so
it's so planted in everybody's environment that we get reminded.
And also with them, the Beatles and the Stones winning Grammys,
it was an interesting balance to the new music and
the new like sonic explorations, you know, being tossed at us,
(05:51):
and I'm all for it. I'm just thankful for the
existence of them.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, Rolling Stones actually one best rock album of the
year for the Hackney Diamonds, and I thought, and all
those guys are in their eighties. I'm not exaggerating either, right,
they're in their eighties.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, in jazz there are some people that well
into their eighties and their nineties. And the blues people
that I was very fortunate to see and meet, whether
it be Muddy Waters or Bo Diddley or Chuck Berry,
we didn't really hear them in America, and I'm talking
in live settings until they were in their forties into
their fifties, and they worked well until their seventies or
(06:36):
in the case of Chuck Berry at least until his
mid eighties. So it's nothing. It's sort of unique. But again,
the Masters had already paved the way for this. But
I think, you know, when I first heard the Rolling
Stones in nineteen sixty four, did I think that, you know,
(06:58):
they'd still be touring last year in America? You know.
And I've met the Beatles and I've met the Stones,
and we've talked about longevity and durability and influence and
all of them, and especially the record producer manager Andrew
lu Golden, who guided and helped, you know, bring the
Rolling Stones to us. He has always told me when
(07:21):
rock and roll happened in Britain and they were coming
to America, people thought it was a career that was
going to be like a two or three year wingspan.
Nobody was thinking of you know, they were bands before
they were brands. But nobody thought the stuff would last
for decades or almost be past a half century mark.
(07:45):
It was inconceivable. I mean, even Ringo in the early
interviews talked about his future plans of maybe being only
a hairdressing salon or something like that. I mean, nobody
saw the length of the race well.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's a good point you bring up, because you know,
I go to music school, I'm a musician myself and
have worked on the radio forever, and a lot of
people we talk about music say, well, there are no
bands that have those kind of careers anymore, and I'm
quick to point out, well, that's not supposed to be. Ever,
what it was the long careers the exception to the rule,
not the rule. You know, a lot more songs that
(08:21):
are one hit wonders where people have won two albums
and then they're out right. The fact that you know,
Beatlestone's Eagles have gone on so long is the exception,
not the rule.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Most of the answer, it often comes down to the
material and the song. The song is key. I mean,
you know, even if it's DM music or instrumental music,
the sound, the sonic blast, the relationship the audience has
with the music is the key. Surely, the visual element,
(08:56):
especially in our post MTV world, plays a part, and
the big marketing machinations and all that, but the song
sort of has to be good for it to even
hang for a while, or you won't hear it again,
or maybe you won't see the people playing the tune.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And what about the Beatles. I think is interesting too.
Somebody pointed this out to me over the last few weeks.
If you think about their body of work, it was
all within eight years. They were thirty. They weren't even
thirty yet when they stopped as the Beatles.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know, I've written a lot about the Beatles, and
they arrived at a time and I think your listeners
and of course yourself, you would know this. They they
made music. They had management, they had agents, they had publicists,
(09:51):
they had music publishers. And unlike today where groups have
clothing lines or oh, nightclubs and various you know, items
of branding, which is totally fine, their focus was very
regimented of record an album, record singles. You'll be going
(10:13):
on this tour, you'll have you know, a holiday for
a while. I mean, I've always said this. Paul McCartney
never had to go to Kinko's to make xeroxes of
sheet music. These things were done for him. So the
focus was primarily on creating the music. And now many people,
(10:35):
especially in our current world, know how to do a
lot of multitasking, but they were not businessmen exclusively. They
were working musicians and they didn't have to worry about it,
So I think the climate was a little different. Plus again,
(10:55):
and Graham Nash and I have talked about this, but
these bands that were dressing beetlestones, even the Hollies, Gram Nash,
they're coming out of World War two, you know, they're
coming out of a world childhood of rubble and war
and smoke and fire. So rock and roll was a
(11:17):
new sort of agency for them, and it translated to us.
And you know, I think they put so much into
it because they were coming out of World War two.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
So totally different work ethic and a totally different minimized
versions of distractions. For like, now I don't think you
can be an artist. You probably won't get signed if
you don't have a good social media presence.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Right Well, you're talking to an author somehow. There is
twenty books where I looked at a couple of recent
deals presented, but my I wasn't on TikTok and so
the let's just say the meeting wasn't as long as it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Should have been.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well there's something to that there, like who can we
connect to right away?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I like the way it's going organically, just the way
it is.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
It seems like now you have to make if you're
if you're a band musician or whatever you are, there's
definitely a different way that you make your living. It's
not from selling records anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh no, Listen, Historically, musicians made their money on the road,
especially jazz musicians and blues musicians and you know, pre
webin intranets and when people were selling vinyl, and this
translated into the mid eighties when the CD you know,
(12:44):
configuration arrived, people were getting revenue streams from record sales.
Now people make their money on the road or streaming
or direct you know, to their to the consumer. It's
a whole different world and maybe a bit of a
more level playing field, but there is still the desire.
(13:08):
I mean, a couple of years ago, I remember billbro
reported vinyl outsold CDs for the first time. Yeah, yeah, right.
There's an aspect of vinyl. It's kind of a romantic expedition,
either if you're by yourself or with someone because you
are it doesn't have the portability of a CD or
(13:31):
listening to something on your phone or earbuds or something.
You are trapped sitting down listening to something on vinyl.
Maybe you have to flip over the vinyl where there's
another six songs. But we've seen, you know, vinyl makes
it still makes a very deep impression to people. And
it's one of the things that I really enjoy because
(13:53):
I'm pelted with a lot of new music, but I'm
also have access to a lot of re releases or
reissues by record labels like High Moon Records that put
out like deluxe remastered big you know albums from forty
to fifty to sixty years ago that were like neglected
or overlooked or never had proper distribution with like twenty
(14:17):
four and thirty six page booklets. And it's a deeper
journey sometimes where you listen to something you know on
the internet where you'll see the album cover or a
description of the music. But some people, record collectors and
a lot of a lot of people like having that
(14:40):
physical plastic in their hands.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, you own it. It's something that you own when
we were when we were kids, I mean, there weren't
as many things coming out like there is now, Like
where there's probably a couple of hundred releases a day,
there is only a few big albums that would come
out a month. But what I love about this generation.
In fact, as we speak week right now, my step
son is in a room next to me listening to records,
(15:04):
not empty three's, he's listening to records. My daughter works
at a record store, like the fourteen fifteen, sixteen year
olds like vinyl, and they're they're not necessarily always buying
new stuff. My daughter came home last week and she
had the new Gracie Abrams album, but she also had
Dolly Parton in her hand, and I think I think
(15:24):
she even had like a Jimmy Page album Outrider, like
a from led Zeppelin's. So she had all kinds of
crazy variety. And that's what I'm seeing with what's happening
now is of course you could go on Spotify or
you know, iHeartRadio and punch up whatever and it's right
at your fingertips, but owning it in your hand and
listening to it all the way through it, it's it's great.
(15:47):
That's what we used to do. We used to read
the liner notes when we were kids. Wow, that's how
we got so obsessed.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
You're talking to a guy that you know, put himself
at least through college the first couple of years working
in a library, and I was just always drawn to
the liner notes and the back covers, who wrote the
songs and all that, But I also liked the words
on the albums and it made it just a big
(16:15):
impact on me on a lot of people where there
was a sense of discovery and you felt you wanted
to take the journey with the record and I listen.
I know a lot of people stared at the front
cover or rolled a joint on the front cover or
whatever it was, but the back cover had the deep secrets, and.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
It's really all you knew about that artist because they
didn't have a running social media thing. There was some mystery,
like until they came to town and you saw them
when you went to go to see their concert. All
you knew before there was MTV was whatever they showed
you on that album or the inside of the album
rights that was your connection to your artists. There's something
(17:00):
special about that that I'm glad that it's kind of
making a bit of a resurgence.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well. I just like the fact that we have choices.
We can listen to new indie groups like Man's Body,
or we can buy a big box seut of the
you know, the deluxe edition of Sergeant Pepper. I mean
later this year is the sixtieth anniversary of the Beatles
(17:26):
Rubber Soul. There'll probably be some hullabaloo about that, maybe
a re reissue or re release, maybe some bonus tracks.
We want more. We also when I see we, all
of us, we're so invested in this music as a
(17:47):
sometimes as a survival situation, confidence, you know, companionship, that
we also know a lot about the music business now,
the industry now then we knew ten and twenty and
thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
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