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December 18, 2019 19 mins

George Noory and psychic medium Dr. Christian Toren von Lahr discuss his findings on Star Seeds, human like aliens that are on Earth to help human beings evolve and prepare to leave the planet before it is destroyed by an asteroid.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on
iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori
with you with our guest doctor Christian torn von Lair,
a psychic clairvoyant medium on a mission to solve the
problems and all our lives. He's a further known for
his insight into the ancient wisdom of the ancient world.
More uniquely, he is notable for his ability to convey

(00:25):
the reality of nature people. Christian has been a producer
of several television programs for the New Age and wellness communities,
including John Grace, Transformation and his own series Messenger. He
has been on coast to coast quite often. A couple
of his books include If You Could Only See, Seeing
and Sensing Gnomes, The Magic of Gnomes and lepre cons

(00:46):
Magical Powers and Mystical Beings and Christian, Welcome back, Looking
forward to this tonight and Merry Christmas to you, my friend.
Thank you George. Happy Holidays to you. Also, it's very
good to be back. How are you. You're up you
sound chipper wow. I went on a later time zone lately,
so I'm ready for you, super super tell me about
star seeds these what are they? Well, star seeds are

(01:10):
they fit into the category of extraterrestrials and aliens, something
typicult to your show. But they are different in this
sense that instead of physically visiting the Earth, they tend
to incarnate here and go through the life process that
normally humans go through so they can better convey their message.
Something has to occur for us to develop, and they're

(01:32):
going to help us with that message, help us succeed.
It's similar in a way to perhaps what extraterrestrials are doing,
but they're going about it a different way. It's also
possible that star seeds were themselves physical visiting extra terrestrials
at one time, like when we're building temples things of
that nature in the past, but by being incarnating into

(01:55):
human life form, what their message is, what they are,
what it's all about, tends to become a part of us,
and they're hoping to convert us, so to speak, to
a way of thinking that fits into the galactic consciousness,
not just so earth focused. Are they physical or something else? Well,
since they've incarnated here, and we're presuming that humans accept

(02:17):
that all humans incarnate, all life incarnates, they're just like us.
It's just that the history of them, what they draw from,
is also from their world, which should be older and
far more advanced than us. So physically they may seem
and act like us, but yet they themselves have characteristics
they know makes them different. For example, they don't feel

(02:40):
like they belonger. They feel like they've comes from somewhere else.
They tend to be loaners because they feel different. They
think in third party, which means they can be in
their conversation and hear it. At the same time, They've
interesting talents and skills, so they themselves consider themselves different
and somewhat alien. Will even say that. But yet to

(03:02):
most people walking the street, you might think you saw
a normal human. But even physically, they will often have
traits that sort of give a clue as to where
they might be coming from. Because star seeds actually come
from many different constellations out there, not all in the
exact same agenda, but similar, and so there are different
types of star seeds, so there are different sets of characteristics.

(03:24):
Humans who that field that they're alien or star seeds
will usually identify with one or more of those different
types of stars seeds. How did you come upon the
star seeds Christian, Well remember two twelve, Remember that that
event two thousand and twelve. Yes, I used to do
a lot of lectures and speaking on that, and of course,

(03:46):
in discovering all some of the old information behind the
two and twelve saga, it was very evident that there
is an alien connection going on there. And of course
I picked up in the et aspect of it, but
I could see that there was more going on because
my back when there's more in this spiritual less spiritualistic

(04:06):
realm or esoteric wisdom realm, and even in those philosophies
we say that everything sort of shielded or couched in words,
and we spoke in metaphors. So in the process of
trying to decipher all the old writings and the old books,
it became very evident what was really going on, that

(04:27):
star seeds are necessary part of the evolution of mankind.
And so over the years I started putting our story together,
and I kind of presumed that most people knew these things,
but it's turned out not to be so. So I
started speaking and lecturing on that you believe that we
as humans will eventually have to move on to another planet.

(04:51):
I think it's I think even scientists going to agree
with us there. Since there's so many things that affect
any planet or any star are in the Milky Way
or any galaxy, everything has sort of a time limit.
Everything's in motion, and movement collisions can go on. Environmental
changes on the Earth have occurred many times, right, we
have got icy ages. There are times and we had

(05:13):
no oxygen. For example, there were times when six foot
dragonflies were the superior race. So things are always changing.
Mankind is relatively new, or at least our consciousness of
it is relatively new. So we've evolved over the last
seven half million years to be where we are now,
but we've sort of become enlightened in that's seven and

(05:33):
a half million years, and we realize that there's something
bigger than us. Of course, that's where spirituality enters the picture,
but we also start recognizing that when we look at
the stars and old relics, that something's happening out there.
It looks like something's guiding us, something's influencing us, and
we've got to start seeing or feeling or being that
bigger picture. And since the Earth and the environment itself

(05:57):
is going to change, that's a big part of this
because the Sun itself is going to go away within
five billion years, for example, other galaxies are going to
be colliding with us. Things can be happening to the
environment of the Earth, which means we'll have to adapt.
To help us adapt to all these kinds of things

(06:18):
and to achieve the potential that's a man you can have.
We need this kind of influence that comes from star seeds.
Have the star seeds basically opened up the books of
the future. Can you look into it and see what's
going to happen to the planet? I have to a degree,
although I've been focused on getting the information out there.

(06:38):
But yes, But I want to say that because there
are many kinds of star seeds. Let's make it like
fifteen or so different types of star seats which are
sort of competing races from other star systems that are
sort of competing to become the race that stands out
the superior race. Now they're all interested in Earth because

(06:59):
techno we hear our Earth tend to exhibit characteristics that
should make us ultimately one of the superior races in
the universe. So we have the most latent potential. Everybody
wants to be us, so to speak, or with us.
But since the earth itself may physically not be here forever,
they have to influence us physically, mentally and in many

(07:22):
ways to adapt to some new location, which they're also
trying to help us be better suited for. And also
we have to take on characteristics of these various star seeds,
those that are trying to influence us, because technically there's
sort of a kind of merger going on between the
races and hours and so it comes it sort of

(07:44):
evolves into a the most suited one winds, so to speak.
Right now, the star seeds are acting on our behalf.
They are, and I want to say that that behalf,
though I want to take a little higher. The perpetuation
of a life, or the higher conscious of life is

(08:04):
the bigger story. Okay, So we have to keep evolving
and life can go on for billions of years, not
just the millions that we've enjoyed. And so the competition
I was mentioning, they all want to end up being
that superior race, which is why they tend to merge
with us in different ways. That's the DNA modification teen

(08:24):
therapies that we hear about in the extraitsterrestural room. But
they want to have that influence on us. But we
must be able to evolve and keep up with the
progress of the universe. We tend to be one that
has been determined is probably going to make it. But
we should presume that's because we've been visited by both
star seeds and extraitsrestaurals in the past. In fact, all along,

(08:48):
and given that, we should presume that we are here
in this consciousness level because we were affected a long
time ago. So all along we've been helped along by
both star seeds and extraterrestrials. Extraterrestrials in the physical um,
star seeds in the influence that we start to exhibit
as we live. Are the ets aware of the star seeds?

(09:13):
They are, but we have We can't always tell if
the ets are on the same level a progress or
have the same endgame in mind as the star seeds.
They might have their own agenda, I guess exactly. It
may be more like us. We're very concerned about ourselves. Right.
Everything tends to be Earth centered or Milky Way centric,
which isn't necessarily the greater truth. Now you're saying that

(09:39):
eventually we're gonna have to leave. I mean when well,
if we look at as I mentioned, the the expiration
of our own son, for example, years five billion years. Okay,
but other things could happen in half that time. Um,
the Magella cloud we should merge with the Milky Way,

(10:01):
which could cause an effect. But even sooner is a
galaxy called M eighty seven, which has a very particular
star to called Spica, which is the oldest realm of
star seats aimed right at us, like a bowling ball
coming at us, And we're actually moving towards them too,

(10:21):
which makes it hard to analyze the subject because things
seem to be moving faster than the speed of light.
But if we just try to go with the physical science,
it looks like about sixty six million years fifty to
sixty seven million years, something you and I don't have
to worry about right now, we no, but there will
be an effect before that time, because in the example

(10:42):
of the M eighty seven galaxy I mentioned, it's aiming
towards us, there is a huge plume of energy force.
It's aimed right at us. It's coming at us. It
looks like five times the speed of light, which shouldn't
be possible, but that probably has to do with the
angle which is coming. But that will affect us long
before the galaxy comes or approaches us, so that can

(11:07):
change our atmosphere. For example, we wouldn't have any air.
But you know, even the way the Earth is now,
we're sort of depleting our air as it is, and
we lack enough phosphorus to replace the air. The air
on Earth tends to be made really from the taxonic
plates of grinding against one another, but we need phosphorus
to actually complete the process of making oxygen. That could

(11:30):
be less than eighty years from now, so that would
make it very very soon, right, So we presume with
science would probably get around that immediate problem. But this
is indicative of the kind of things we need to
be looking at in the future. And the star seat
connection is simply that we won't be able to use
our scientific tricks forever. Eventually we'll have to lead because

(11:51):
the physical Earth itself won't be suitable for our particular evolution.
Humans are changing in form and capability, so it'll actually
be better for us to move somewhere else. Also that
we physically move. I don't know that we will all
just physically get on a spaceship and move. But what
we are, the essence of what we are, can be

(12:12):
developed on other planets too. Explain that well, since we're
evolving and we believe in well spirituality, we believe in
reincarnation that can be seated in other places before we
actually are indigenous to that of the place. Just like
I said the Earth itself, we were probably introduced here

(12:32):
in a sense by merging with the strongest animal, most
capable animal form here at the time, like a Neanderthal
will make it human. I guess at the time that
we were helped influence so that we would end up
being superior, so that same type of thing will be
happening at some point in time in other places. Now

(12:55):
that mighty seven, the one I'm really concerned about, that
cluster coming towards, is so super massive. It's like it's
so powerful, the black hole and it anchors like two
thousand other galaxies. That's how powerful. How astronomers know about
this that have since the twenties, It's just that because
it shows, like you, we become more aware of that.

(13:16):
There's a reason to be concerns. But it is making
new stars and planets too, So some of those are
the existence, some are in the process. Will have to
go to one of those, depending on how well we
do in all of our star sea trials here, right,
how well we evolve, how we handle the extraterrestural visitations,
who ends up on top. So a lot of things

(13:37):
are in play. But I think it's important to bring
in the you know, the DNA modification gene work we
do that we speak to when we talk about extraterrestionals
for example. That's also another way of conditioning us for
a new world. We have to be able to be
adaptable to that atmosphere, that gravity, every else may be

(14:00):
happening on those different planets and star systems. You mentioned
that some people might go to another planet, obviously not
all of us. So what happens to the rest? I mean,
do we die and get there via a rebirth of reincarnation? Yes,
so physically we only lived and maybe like a hundred
let's say, right, so we reincarnated, so that keeps us going.

(14:24):
But we will probably cease to start to be reincarnating
here and we'll just continue reincarnation on the new planet.
So there could be a planet killer coming in eighty years. Yes, geez. Well,
the actually, George, you know, the environment that we live
in now's already a precarious like the lack of option,

(14:46):
And like I said, in eighty years, that's happening now
on the Earth itself. And I'm just presuming that science
will get us beyond some of those hiccups. Now we
may be millions of years, we may be the Mars
within eighty years. There may be colonies, but surely you're
not going to move seven billion people. But we could

(15:07):
also move in steps, right, We could move to other planets,
which the ancients said we did. We didn't start here
on the Earth anyway. They would say we came from
both Mercury and Mars and Venus frankly, and we'll probably
move to Saturn or the moons around Saturn, if we
believe the old esoteric teachings, long before we actually moved

(15:28):
to another planet. But it would still be humans just
on those other places. Is this inevitable? It is inevitable.
I mean if even science says we're not going to
physically make it. You know, we have Andromeda merging with us.
Also another big galaxy, right, bigger than us. So although
the stars tend to have enough distance that we don't

(15:50):
overly collide. There are still forces at play, right, and
the black holes in some of these galaxies, we don't
quite know what that's going to do. They'll probably circle
around the black hole in the center of the Milky
Way itself, although there may be two of those, in
which case you have a lot of volatility going on there. Right,
So all of this is going to move and shake

(16:11):
the Milky Way. We're just simply one of the planets,
but it will affect us also, so we know that
the world that we're accustomed to won't be the way
it is now. So we have to in some way
have adaptation built into us, because we can't just suddenly
adapt to something that dramatic overnight. We may have to. Well,

(16:33):
that's part of the urgency that we speak of. When
we speak to star seas, they all think they're on emission.
They're saying time is not unlimited. Okay, So we're being
prepared now for many contingencies. The one I've been speaking
to is is the best one, which if we can
make it long enough, we'll eventually simply moved to a

(16:53):
planet that's selected for us. Until we get to that
point in time. We have to somehow keep adapting to
the world that we're in. But even history shows us
that the Earth that we're on now was not like
it is now. It used to be read. For example,
water was different, oxygen didn't exist, and we've actually had dieots,
as you recall, right, absolutely, so between those dieots and

(17:17):
also between ice ages, star seeds have always been noted
or recorded in some way. It's coming here to make
sure that we can start up again. Who survived, What
can we do with those? What do we have to
change with those people or those humans to help them
now adjust to the new Earth. So those are the
That's kind of how we've been doing it so far.

(17:38):
But even that mechanism isn't going to work forever. Eventually
we will have to leave. So I'm talking about a
large expanse of time up to sixty six million years,
but that would be pretty good anyway, Right, We've only
lived about seven and a half million years, but who knows,
it may have to happen sooner. So it's the same
kind of preparation. Even if we had to move to

(18:00):
a Mars a moon around Saturn, it's kind of like
moving to another planet anyway, right, that might be coming
from M eighty seven. So we have to get into
this mode of thinking. We're only travelers, see, and we're
on the Earth now, and we'll go somewhere else. And
so spirituality would have said, well, the Earth is only

(18:21):
a little over four billion years also, so we must
have lived somewhere else before even the Earth existed. Yes,
so we're saying that although we've forgotten about it, we've
been doing this same kind of thing all along. But
you know, we humans, we don't tend to want to change, right.
We think everything thing is going to stay the same.
We do have to get out of that way of thinking,

(18:41):
and that's part of what star Seeds are trying to
help us do. Be accustomed to being a part of
something in the universe and we have to travel through
it and adapt as it changes. Listen to more Coast
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