February 7, 2025 • 19 mins
George Noory and psychic medium Carole Obley explore her communications with spirits in the afterlife, how people find their soul pods to have experiences with other beings in this lifetime, and the reason why human souls reincarnate.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Man Welcome back, George Norri back with Carol Obli. Spiritual
medium and author. Carol has done more than fifteen thousand
group and individual readings fifteen thousand. She provides grief support
and teachings about the afterlife, and is recognized by clients
for bringing compassion and integrity to mediumship. She has a
(00:25):
book coming out in a few months called The Art
of Sensing, a Guide for staying true to your soul's
journey through challenging times. Carol, welcome back. How have you been.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Good to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good to be back with you too. What's new?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, as you said, the book is coming on, will
be coming off, and readings and readings and readings. That's
basically my life.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Is it finally finished?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh oh yeah, The Art of Sensing it's been finished.
It's actually available for pre ordered now through Amazon. The
actual publishing day will be May first.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Now, how did you get involved in mediumship?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was born and then that sounds kind of weird,
but I didn't discover that until many years later. And
that was, you know, I was in my thirties until
I was called onto the pathway. But I believe that
(01:38):
mediums are born, not made. And you know, it seems
like today everybody is claiming to be a medium. True
mediumship takes many, many years to develop. It's certainly not
something that you can do overnight, take a weekend workshop
(01:59):
and become a medium. So it takes many, many years
to develop a self confidence, to develop accuracy, and to
importantly establish that connection with spirit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
In the beginning, when you were starting to do this,
how did you know that you were connecting with spirit
and that it wasn't just something within your mind.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
The short answer to that is by feedback from people
who were recipients of those readings. And you know, over
the years, I mean this is almost three decades for
me of practicing mediumship at least in this lifetime, so
(02:48):
you know, feedback from people through emails, phone calls. Some
of those might be you know, months or years later
that have received feedback from the things that were communicated
within a session. So it takes a long time to
really develop that level of trust.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And by this time, Carol, I bet you have a
pretty good definition of what the afterlife is.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I do and it's really right here. People have often
asked me that, and you know, through a lot of
interviews and so forth, where is the spirit world? So
the answer to that is it's right here. It's not
a place per se, it's a state of consciousness. And
(03:39):
with mediumship, what is occurring is a blend of two souls.
One of those souls is me, and actually I should
say probably three because the recipient is included in that too.
But the soul who no longer has a body is
blending with my consciousness. And that's how medium showed this possible.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Do you cut deals with souls?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Cut deals meaning have sole agreements and so forth. Absolutely.
Now a lot of people don't understand that. They kind
of misinterpret it and think, well, it's something that I'm
going to remember, it's something that you know, why would
(04:34):
I sign up for that or whatever. In my most
recent book, Wisdom from the Spiral World, I wrote about,
you know, the agreements that we make with other souls.
Seldom do we remember that, but the challenges that are
there will bring up those particular you know, agreements that
(04:57):
we've made. George, it's always a two way street, so
meaning that both souls have agreed to that. It's never well,
I want you to do this, and you know I
don't have a part in that. So it's always a
two way street. Meaning I don't like the word contract.
(05:21):
I say that they're blueprints, and that's how I refer
to those, you know, made between two souls.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Karen, what are soul pods?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Another word for pod is group, and I call them
a pod. I call them a pod often because kind
of like you know how how sea creatures will will
swim in that group and they navigate together on that wave.
(05:58):
That's what a soul group is. A group of souls.
It could be very large, you know, with many many
souls in it who are expressing the same qualities and
they're sort of on the same frequency, and they express
(06:19):
these things called archetypes, which we know are was first
expressed or defined by Carl Hume, the famous Swiss psychoanalysts.
So examples of archetypes or you know mother, father, a caregiver,
(06:40):
somebody who's a nurturer. These are deeply ingrained patterns that
are in human consciousness. So the soul group will express
certain qualities that are identical or the same.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Have we humankind been obsessed with the after life since
the beginning of time.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I believe so, because I'm very tuned into the Egyptian culture.
I believe I've had several incarnations there, and you know,
they had a whole story, as many cultures did, of
the afterlife and when the soul would leave the body
(07:29):
and go into the afterlife, that was the new journey
of that soul. And they believed that the soul would
need certain vital organs like the heart or you know,
the liver or whatever, and so they would put those
in the tomb, thinking that that soul was going to
(07:52):
need these physical items to travel through the underworld. We
know that that's not true because we don't have a body,
but the afterlife has always been something that people have
wondered about and wanted to explore and delve into.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
How do people find out about their soul pot how
do they get information about it?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, I think the first thing is to really do
sort of this self assessment. What are you drawn to,
what interests you? And importantly, what do you do naturally?
What comes to you very naturally that you don't you know,
you don't even perhaps have to think about when you're
(08:41):
doing it, or you know, not to say that there
isn't training involved, but what calls to you and that
gives a lot of clues to your soul group. In
other words, this is a natural cause, something that you know,
(09:03):
maybe even as a child, you were drawn to one
of the things that I mentioned in the book. And
I actually started out in the art of sensing with this. George.
I was about ten years old, and it was Saturday evening.
I was with my mom and the Miss America pageant
(09:25):
was on, and I had my hair in curlers and
so forth, getting ready for church the next day. And
there was one of the contestants that came on and
she was an interpreter for the deaf. That was her talent,
that was her you know, demonstration, and I remember being
(09:47):
absolutely fascinated watching her you know, and interpret and I
said to my mom, I got very excited, and I said,
that's what I want to do when I grow up.
And my mom kind of just you know, sloughed it off,
just sort of shrugged her shoulders. And it didn't dawn
(10:11):
on me many years later why I was so drawn
to somebody who would be able to interpret for people
who can't hear. And so I look at that as
a very early stirring with my soul of getting into mediumship,
(10:32):
you know, interpreting messages, giving messages to people that are
not able to hear. So you know instances like that.
You know, oftentimes we can go back in years and
think about what we were very much attracted to or
(10:52):
drawn to, and that'll give a clue to our soul,
our soul's calling, or our soule group.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
How critical, Carol, is the soul to the human body.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Well, we wouldn't be here without the soul because the
soul or the divine which lives in every single person
and also in animals. I might add every blade of grass,
every tree, every flower that you see, that is the
divine that animates the physical. So without that animation, and
(11:35):
that's why when you know, when the soul withdraws from
the fiscal body, that's when we go back into spirit.
So that consciousness is withdrawing from the fiscal body. The
body can't exist without it.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Why do we reincarnate?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's all part of the soul's evolution and the constant
movement towards the reunion with the divine. That's the only
reason why we're here. That is the only reason why
we are here, is to reunite with the Divine through
(12:20):
the experiences that the soul has on the physcal plane.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What determines when reincarnation stops, where you don't keep you
dying and reincarnating and dying, And what determines that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
When we become unified with the divine or what I
call spirit, that's with the capital as, not like you know,
an individual soul, but what most people call God, I
call spirit or the Divine. So when we reconn out,
when we are one, and that's also called atonement, at
(13:04):
at one mint with the Divine, there's no reason to
reincarnate any longer.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That was a kid, and I mean a kid, I
would say that we stopped reincarnating once we reached that
state of heaven. I think I was right right.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You were see you were right on George. Yeah. And
if you think of the saints, you know the saints
in Catholicism, and I mean I don't limit them to Catholicism.
They can be for anybody. People who were here the
walk the fiscal plane, that did you know, wonderful things
(13:52):
and in service of the planet of people. They no
longer have to reincarnate because they've gone through on those
sorts of tests. Physical playing is a place of testing,
and I call it the Great Schoolroom of Earth.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And of course, when you stop reincarnating, you're at that utopia.
You made it right.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Exactly, and you know then there's another group of the
ascended masters, of which Jesus is one, Buddha Krishna, and
there are many others. They do not have to take
(14:47):
physical form any longer because there's no purpose in it
for them. They've already ascended. They're at one with spirit.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
When a person dies, Carol physically dies and their soul
leaves that body, do they know what's going on?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Not always, George, because some people, and they're you know,
different cases. Some of these I've actually met, you know,
in the thousands of readings that I've done, people who
pass very suddenly, say in an accident or you know,
a murder situation, even suicide. I have personally seen that
(15:44):
there's sometimes a confusion. For example, you know someone who
commits suicide, let's say. And unfortunately, I've had the experience
of reading for many people who have lost loved ones
through suicide.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Not easy at all.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No, I have the utmost compassion for people who go
through dods it's devastating for people, but they'll come through
and I'll sometimes go, you know, I look down on
my body and I said, why am I? You know,
why am I still conscious? I thought this was going
(16:27):
to put me out of the pain that I'm in.
I thought by doing this that I was going to be,
you know, and have it totally liberated from all the
suffering I was going through before I did this. And
so sometimes they're very confused that they're still conscious. And
(16:47):
then there's others who die and say, why am I?
Why is my body down there? And I'm up here?
Why am I looking at my body? And so that
might be true in cases where people have no beliefs
in the afterlife, they you know, their consciousness does not
(17:13):
you know, that believe that we go on and they
think that, you know, that's that's the end. But they're
still conscious and they're looking down on their body.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Do souls communicate with other souls in the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh? Absolutely, one hundred percent. And you know, something striking
that I've discovered through all these years of doing medium show,
And I think sometimes people are surprised by this. We
can meet up with not only our family, I mean
most people understand that and know that. But we also
(17:51):
can meet up with friends. I can't tell you how
many readings I've done in which, you know, the communicating
spirit will give the name of a particular person that
they're with and it was a it was a friend
that they were close with when they were here on
the fiscal.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Plane who died.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yes, And so just as we have friendships here, we
can you know, meet up with that friend in the
spirit world. And the other thing. George and I think
most people, most of your listeners would would understand this.
(18:35):
We can also meet up with pets that we've had,
and there are many readings I've done in which pets
will appear. Sometimes they're with other family members of you know,
the recipient of the reading. Sometimes they just come through
(18:57):
on their own. Now that's it. If they have not
reincarnated themselves, you know, that's dependent upon do they need
to stay in the spiral world for a length of
time or are they ready to come back for another
experience in the fiscal plane.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot
com for more
Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Man Welcome back, George Norri back with Carol Obli. Spiritual
medium and author. Carol has done more than fifteen thousand
group and individual readings fifteen thousand. She provides grief support
and teachings about the afterlife, and is recognized by clients
for bringing compassion and integrity to mediumship. She has a
(00:25):
book coming out in a few months called The Art
of Sensing, a Guide for staying true to your soul's
journey through challenging times. Carol, welcome back. How have you been.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Good to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good to be back with you too. What's new?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, as you said, the book is coming on, will
be coming off, and readings and readings and readings. That's
basically my life.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Is it finally finished?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh oh yeah, The Art of Sensing it's been finished.
It's actually available for pre ordered now through Amazon. The
actual publishing day will be May first.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Now, how did you get involved in mediumship?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was born and then that sounds kind of weird,
but I didn't discover that until many years later. And
that was, you know, I was in my thirties until
I was called onto the pathway. But I believe that
(01:38):
mediums are born, not made. And you know, it seems
like today everybody is claiming to be a medium. True
mediumship takes many, many years to develop. It's certainly not
something that you can do overnight, take a weekend workshop
(01:59):
and become a medium. So it takes many, many years
to develop a self confidence, to develop accuracy, and to
importantly establish that connection with spirit.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
In the beginning, when you were starting to do this,
how did you know that you were connecting with spirit
and that it wasn't just something within your mind.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
The short answer to that is by feedback from people
who were recipients of those readings. And you know, over
the years, I mean this is almost three decades for
me of practicing mediumship at least in this lifetime, so
(02:48):
you know, feedback from people through emails, phone calls. Some
of those might be you know, months or years later
that have received feedback from the things that were communicated
within a session. So it takes a long time to
really develop that level of trust.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And by this time, Carol, I bet you have a
pretty good definition of what the afterlife is.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I do and it's really right here. People have often
asked me that, and you know, through a lot of
interviews and so forth, where is the spirit world? So
the answer to that is it's right here. It's not
a place per se, it's a state of consciousness. And
(03:39):
with mediumship, what is occurring is a blend of two souls.
One of those souls is me, and actually I should
say probably three because the recipient is included in that too.
But the soul who no longer has a body is
blending with my consciousness. And that's how medium showed this possible.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Do you cut deals with souls?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Cut deals meaning have sole agreements and so forth. Absolutely.
Now a lot of people don't understand that. They kind
of misinterpret it and think, well, it's something that I'm
going to remember, it's something that you know, why would
(04:34):
I sign up for that or whatever. In my most
recent book, Wisdom from the Spiral World, I wrote about,
you know, the agreements that we make with other souls.
Seldom do we remember that, but the challenges that are
there will bring up those particular you know, agreements that
(04:57):
we've made. George, it's always a two way street, so
meaning that both souls have agreed to that. It's never well,
I want you to do this, and you know I
don't have a part in that. So it's always a
two way street. Meaning I don't like the word contract.
(05:21):
I say that they're blueprints, and that's how I refer
to those, you know, made between two souls.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Karen, what are soul pods?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Another word for pod is group, and I call them
a pod. I call them a pod often because kind
of like you know how how sea creatures will will
swim in that group and they navigate together on that wave.
(05:58):
That's what a soul group is. A group of souls.
It could be very large, you know, with many many
souls in it who are expressing the same qualities and
they're sort of on the same frequency, and they express
(06:19):
these things called archetypes, which we know are was first
expressed or defined by Carl Hume, the famous Swiss psychoanalysts.
So examples of archetypes or you know mother, father, a caregiver,
(06:40):
somebody who's a nurturer. These are deeply ingrained patterns that
are in human consciousness. So the soul group will express
certain qualities that are identical or the same.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Have we humankind been obsessed with the after life since
the beginning of time.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I believe so, because I'm very tuned into the Egyptian culture.
I believe I've had several incarnations there, and you know,
they had a whole story, as many cultures did, of
the afterlife and when the soul would leave the body
(07:29):
and go into the afterlife, that was the new journey
of that soul. And they believed that the soul would
need certain vital organs like the heart or you know,
the liver or whatever, and so they would put those
in the tomb, thinking that that soul was going to
(07:52):
need these physical items to travel through the underworld. We
know that that's not true because we don't have a body,
but the afterlife has always been something that people have
wondered about and wanted to explore and delve into.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
How do people find out about their soul pot how
do they get information about it?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Well, I think the first thing is to really do
sort of this self assessment. What are you drawn to,
what interests you? And importantly, what do you do naturally?
What comes to you very naturally that you don't you know,
you don't even perhaps have to think about when you're
(08:41):
doing it, or you know, not to say that there
isn't training involved, but what calls to you and that
gives a lot of clues to your soul group. In
other words, this is a natural cause, something that you know,
(09:03):
maybe even as a child, you were drawn to one
of the things that I mentioned in the book. And
I actually started out in the art of sensing with this. George.
I was about ten years old, and it was Saturday evening.
I was with my mom and the Miss America pageant
(09:25):
was on, and I had my hair in curlers and
so forth, getting ready for church the next day. And
there was one of the contestants that came on and
she was an interpreter for the deaf. That was her talent,
that was her you know, demonstration, and I remember being
(09:47):
absolutely fascinated watching her you know, and interpret and I
said to my mom, I got very excited, and I said,
that's what I want to do when I grow up.
And my mom kind of just you know, sloughed it off,
just sort of shrugged her shoulders. And it didn't dawn
(10:11):
on me many years later why I was so drawn
to somebody who would be able to interpret for people
who can't hear. And so I look at that as
a very early stirring with my soul of getting into mediumship,
(10:32):
you know, interpreting messages, giving messages to people that are
not able to hear. So you know instances like that.
You know, oftentimes we can go back in years and
think about what we were very much attracted to or
(10:52):
drawn to, and that'll give a clue to our soul,
our soul's calling, or our soule group.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
How critical, Carol, is the soul to the human body.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Well, we wouldn't be here without the soul because the
soul or the divine which lives in every single person
and also in animals. I might add every blade of grass,
every tree, every flower that you see, that is the
divine that animates the physical. So without that animation, and
(11:35):
that's why when you know, when the soul withdraws from
the fiscal body, that's when we go back into spirit.
So that consciousness is withdrawing from the fiscal body. The
body can't exist without it.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Why do we reincarnate?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
That's all part of the soul's evolution and the constant
movement towards the reunion with the divine. That's the only
reason why we're here. That is the only reason why
we are here, is to reunite with the Divine through
(12:20):
the experiences that the soul has on the physcal plane.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What determines when reincarnation stops, where you don't keep you
dying and reincarnating and dying, And what determines that.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
When we become unified with the divine or what I
call spirit, that's with the capital as, not like you know,
an individual soul, but what most people call God, I
call spirit or the Divine. So when we reconn out,
when we are one, and that's also called atonement, at
(13:04):
at one mint with the Divine, there's no reason to
reincarnate any longer.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That was a kid, and I mean a kid, I
would say that we stopped reincarnating once we reached that
state of heaven. I think I was right right.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You were see you were right on George. Yeah. And
if you think of the saints, you know the saints
in Catholicism, and I mean I don't limit them to Catholicism.
They can be for anybody. People who were here the
walk the fiscal plane, that did you know, wonderful things
(13:52):
and in service of the planet of people. They no
longer have to reincarnate because they've gone through on those
sorts of tests. Physical playing is a place of testing,
and I call it the Great Schoolroom of Earth.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
And of course, when you stop reincarnating, you're at that utopia.
You made it right.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Exactly, and you know then there's another group of the
ascended masters, of which Jesus is one, Buddha Krishna, and
there are many others. They do not have to take
(14:47):
physical form any longer because there's no purpose in it
for them. They've already ascended. They're at one with spirit.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
When a person dies, Carol physically dies and their soul
leaves that body, do they know what's going on?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Not always, George, because some people, and they're you know,
different cases. Some of these I've actually met, you know,
in the thousands of readings that I've done, people who
pass very suddenly, say in an accident or you know,
a murder situation, even suicide. I have personally seen that
(15:44):
there's sometimes a confusion. For example, you know someone who
commits suicide, let's say. And unfortunately, I've had the experience
of reading for many people who have lost loved ones
through suicide.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Not easy at all.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No, I have the utmost compassion for people who go
through dods it's devastating for people, but they'll come through
and I'll sometimes go, you know, I look down on
my body and I said, why am I? You know,
why am I still conscious? I thought this was going
(16:27):
to put me out of the pain that I'm in.
I thought by doing this that I was going to be,
you know, and have it totally liberated from all the
suffering I was going through before I did this. And
so sometimes they're very confused that they're still conscious. And
(16:47):
then there's others who die and say, why am I?
Why is my body down there? And I'm up here?
Why am I looking at my body? And so that
might be true in cases where people have no beliefs
in the afterlife, they you know, their consciousness does not
(17:13):
you know, that believe that we go on and they
think that, you know, that's that's the end. But they're
still conscious and they're looking down on their body.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Do souls communicate with other souls in the afterlife?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh? Absolutely, one hundred percent. And you know, something striking
that I've discovered through all these years of doing medium show,
And I think sometimes people are surprised by this. We
can meet up with not only our family, I mean
most people understand that and know that. But we also
(17:51):
can meet up with friends. I can't tell you how
many readings I've done in which, you know, the communicating
spirit will give the name of a particular person that
they're with and it was a it was a friend
that they were close with when they were here on
the fiscal.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Plane who died.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yes, And so just as we have friendships here, we
can you know, meet up with that friend in the
spirit world. And the other thing. George and I think
most people, most of your listeners would would understand this.
(18:35):
We can also meet up with pets that we've had,
and there are many readings I've done in which pets
will appear. Sometimes they're with other family members of you know,
the recipient of the reading. Sometimes they just come through
(18:57):
on their own. Now that's it. If they have not
reincarnated themselves, you know, that's dependent upon do they need
to stay in the spiral world for a length of
time or are they ready to come back for another
experience in the fiscal plane.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
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com for more
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