May 24, 2023 • 15 mins
George Noory and UFO researcher Stephen Bassett discuss his continuing efforts to end a government imposed embargo on disclosure of proof that aliens have been visiting Earth, why some politicians are already admitting that aliens are here, and why he thinks UFOs have been interfering with our nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to George Nori and Stephen Bassett from
the Paradigm Research Group. Steven, you mentioned Lou Alexandro and
Christopher Mellon. Are they big players in this disclosure puzzle.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
They are very important to the process, the disclosure process underway.
The two of them, along with Gary Nolan and seven
others are the ones that came forward in two thousand
and seventeen as part of the Two the Stars Academy
of Arts of Times. But the other seven have kind
of stayed in the background, though they they've said some
(00:41):
things from time to time. But it's these three Lou,
Gary and Christopher who have been carrying the heavy water
and in the three areas that I talked about. And
if you'll indulge me for a second, George, I want
to reiterate what I said just before the break is
the most important thing I'm going to say tonight, and
that is this what is going on. It's not the
(01:03):
United States government doing all it can now to finally
try to understand this phenomena. No, not at all. It's
not about the phenomena. People haven't need to know for
seven decades. What is going on now is a process
within certain constraints and protocols to get out from under
(01:24):
the truth embargo by in a public way doing all
the things that should have been done and will be
done that will get the government and the nation to
the post disclosure world a minimum amount of pain, suffering
and damage. That is what is going on, and that's
why it's very confusing to a lot of people, particularly
(01:45):
if you know something about the phenomena or even in
the modern era, or if you know about the history,
and to give an example of how this connection or
this disconnector what I'm trying to point out is that
back in two thou and eight in at press conference
after one of my ex conferences, edgar Mitchell at doctor
(02:08):
edgar Mitchell, who spoke its podium at the press conference
in the National Press Club and said there's an extra
trustrial presence. In twenty sixteen, Robert Bigelow went on fifteen
minutes and said there's an extraterrestrial presence here. Conferenceman Timbershev
of Tennessee says there's an extra trustrial presence here about
(02:28):
every other week, just a couple of days ago at
the salt Icon extras conference, a big deal in New York,
Gary Nolan, doctor Gary Nolan, said there's an extrustrial presence here,
So expect more people like that, people of high conference
to come forward and say that. But you're going to
hear something else. And Gary basically says this, there's an
(02:51):
extra trustrial presence here and the government has known it
all along, or known it since the nineteen forties. You're
going to hear more people saying that. And that's important.
And the reason that I'm saying is important why because
we want the truth embargo to end, and we recognize
(03:14):
that it's not like you could just suddenly pro press
conference and say, guess what, it's all been true. Too
many moving parts, too many entities and institutions, have too
much history. It's got to be done in an organized,
in a public way, which is exactly what is happening,
all right. That doesn't mean that the public has to
(03:37):
be fooled by that. In other words, what I want,
and I think you're going to see happening, is the
public getting to a position where it understands that what
is happening is not exactly what it seems. That it's
somewhat of a I don't know how to put it.
It's like almost a ritual or a protocol. But in
(03:59):
other words, the government it knows, but they need to
go through this so they can confirm it to us
so we can really get on with the post disclosure world.
It's okay for people to have those two things in
their head at the same time. That's the point I
wanted to get across.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well, that's a big point. But will the government ever
explain why they held back all these years?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh? Yeah, yeah. After the confirmation comes from the President
the next probably within twenty four hours, the questions will begin.
They will be intense, and they will be coming from
every direction, and they'll go on for months and years.
But one of the very first questions is going to
be asked by some top journalist of the Secretary of
(04:40):
Defense to the President or whoever is that, when did
the United States government know that this phenomenon is not here?
And the answer will be nineteen forty seven, forty five,
forty six, And people are going to go, really, well,
why did you tell us in national security? We had
(05:03):
very good reasons why this had to be contained and
not out in the public domain. Uh, and we're not
going to apologize for that. There's a lot of things
we do for national security and people go okay, the
millennials go okay, not a problem. So but all of
this is to try to mitigate how difficult it is
(05:24):
going to be to answer that question. And there are
a lot other questions. I mean, so easy. I could
go on and on the tough questions they're going to
have to face, and I appreciate that, but yeah, if
you if you want to serve government, you got to
you gotta handle the tough questions if you.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Can't get another job, Steven. There is one ufologist who's
a darn good one who stands aside from most other ufologists,
and that's David Jacobs, who believes the UFO presence is
not a good one. Where does where does he stand
(05:58):
compared to other people?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, well yeah I wouldn't. I'm trying to see that
the craseypologists eventually go away, just as UFO is going away.
We need new language. It makes it easier for people
to address, to speak to the issue without having to
be touched by all the ridicules and demeaning that that
(06:22):
you've covered it for the decades because of the truth
in Barbo. He is a contact researcher and a professor
of history. He is in I think the minority in
terms of the degree of negativity that he ascribes to
the ET presence. But be sure that there are things
(06:44):
that extra trustors are doing which is going to be
reviewed post disclosure, discussed post disclosures, and some of that
is problematic. Does that mean that the overall outcome is
going to be terrible?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, And I'll be getting into this. Oh I should
mention what about to just touch on a little bit here,
I'm going to go way deeper in in ten days
at a conference in any and Well, it's contact in
the desert.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'll be there. I'll see you there.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You'll be there. I'll be there, and I'm going to
be taking probably I think I have about two to
three hours of questions I'll be able to take, uh,
to try to get into this. But the questions they're
going to have to answer, uh include it was the
United States government where the contact is taking place, in
(07:36):
which ets were doing directly with humans without their consent? Yeah, wow,
uh you knew? Yeah, Well why did you do something
about it? There's nothing we could do. Another question, do
you have any technology that you have been working on
(07:57):
and re engineering that has been developed? It's within the
unknowledged special access programs that could if we're in the
public domain being very useful to us. Answer yes. Now,
you may say, why don't they just answer no. The
reason is simple. This isn't nineteen sixty nine. Is this
(08:20):
is twenty twenty three. Right, there's somewhere between one and
three million.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Podcasts, and we know that there are.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Five six million cell phones with cameras, global communications, social media.
Everything the government does now could be broken down to
the letter to the syllables. Any attempt to lie now
is just literally destroyed within within hours, and the public's
willingness to put up with any more lives is is
(08:47):
not there. And so I think they know this, and
so once confirmation takes place, there is no reason to
lie anymore. They may say that has to remain classified.
I cannot discuss that of concocting a lie simply because
the question is tough would be a colossal blunder. And
on what I'm seeing is they're not going to do that.
(09:09):
But again, these tough questions are why they're having to
go through this right, to do this right, and to
make it transparent and involved the Congress and involve the
DoD and sent up these ended so that when those
tough questions come, they won't look quite as foolish and
as vulnerable as is if they did not go through
(09:29):
this process. Is it easy no? Is it fun no?
Is it frustrating?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But when you're dealing with what will be the most
profound event in human history, with consequences for every single
human being on the planet, in every country, and it's
possible that our president may be the one that ends
this embargo and confirms it. Clearly, this is something that
has to be treated with a great deal of care,
sophistication and forethought, and you're seeing that unfold. I'm happy
(09:57):
with the process. I hope David Jacobs is not correct
in his thinking that the hybrid concept, which is another
tough question I'm going to have to deal with. Do
you know that hybrid entities are being created by the
EPs government? Answer yes, that the cyber program is not
about replacing humans.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They'll have too other.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Things happen that well. I know we're going to talk
about tonight and we're talking about a contact in the
desert that essentially defends or at least puts that that
that thinking I came off to the side some of
the most important stuff of all, And we'll obviously get
into that. But yeah, David, David's views have got to
(10:39):
be considered, and that possibility can never be ruled out.
But first we've got to get to the post disclosure
world so we can have real conversations about the real
information and we can all make a judgment.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Are you saying these hearings that are eminent? Is this
coming from inside sources you know? Or what? What? Why
do you know this?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know it because I follow the news, as you know,
I chronicle all the news on the subjectors. I've got
thirteen thousand articles linked on my site right now. I've
linked five thousands since twenty seventeen. I'm following all these developments.
Most people don't have the time for that, so I
have a pretty good sense of the big picture. Plus,
(11:20):
we have several public sources that have confirmed that nearly
a dozen or more witnesses have already been interviewed by AEROS.
Bob Salliss made that clear, but he's not the only one. Now,
the witnesses they're interviewing are just the right ones. They're
interviewing the nuclear weapons tampering witnesses, they're interviewing pilots, they're
interviewing military people that have specific information about very very
(11:43):
important events. And there is no more important event, no
more important thing regarding the extraterrustrial presence on this planet
in the modern era, than a shutting down of our
nuclear missiles. And I'll be going into that deep as
contact in the desert. That is the one thing that
will should be heavily attendantive as we move forward, not
(12:09):
only the disclosure process but in the post disclosure world.
Why did they turn off our nuclear weapons? And that
gets into a very interesting area. Ye, but for me,
it's a very positive thing.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
What are they trying to prove by doing that? Steven?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
The simple answer, here's the simple answer. The nuclear weapons
tampering is the phrase I use. Others use other things.
But the turning off of nuclear weapons in the United
States and the Soviet Unions on many occasions, including at
least two instances where they set them the missile vent
(12:46):
to launch mode follow which can't be.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Done right, It's almost impossible. It should be impossible.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Well, it went out, the key being turned. All that
scared the hell out of obviously the flight crews, both
in the Kovie Union and the United States. These all
started happening after the Cuban missile crisis. A lot of
people haven't thought about that.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I realized it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So we had a Cuban missile crisis. I sat there
in front of the television thirteen days. It was at
eighteen days thirteen, and it's scary as hell. And we
came a lot closer to a nuclear event in that
in that crisis, one could take away from the news
we've learned since then how close we came. A couple
(13:30):
of years later, suddenly these crafts are turning up over
an ICBM light and turning the missiles off. Most of
the witnesses, certainly about Zallas and others, believe this is
a simple message, what in the hell are you doing
with these weapons? Are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And we can shut them off anytime we want.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, we can shut them off anytime we want, sure,
but they they and they've done it a number of times,
but then they stopped, and we always turn them back on.
So the message is that we can shut them off
anytime we want. The message is we're letting you know
that in terms of us, anybody in your government or
the Soviet government that is making the case we've got
(14:15):
to keep the news. We've got to keep at least
twenty thousand, and of course it's in the sixties. We
were on our way to eighty six thousand nukes by
nineteen ninety five. Is that if you're keeping them because
you think you might need them to deal with us,
you're wasting your money and your time. But just turn
them off. So that's not an excuse. You've got to
(14:37):
make your decision. Do you really want your civilization to
live under mutual search destruction on a daily basis forever?
Is what is your game plan here? But I think
there's even more to it than that. So this will
be the key initial testimony that is going to take
place in front of that first hearing, which I think
will be descended until hearing Maybee Brothers, and it's going
(14:59):
to be my I'm blowing and that's what's going to
get people's attention. Bringing off the nuclear weapons is one
hundred times more significant than somebody seeing a tictack.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at
one a m Eastern and go to Coast to coastam
dot com for more
Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
And welcome back to George Nori and Stephen Bassett from
the Paradigm Research Group. Steven, you mentioned Lou Alexandro and
Christopher Mellon. Are they big players in this disclosure puzzle.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
They are very important to the process, the disclosure process underway.
The two of them, along with Gary Nolan and seven
others are the ones that came forward in two thousand
and seventeen as part of the Two the Stars Academy
of Arts of Times. But the other seven have kind
of stayed in the background, though they they've said some
(00:41):
things from time to time. But it's these three Lou,
Gary and Christopher who have been carrying the heavy water
and in the three areas that I talked about. And
if you'll indulge me for a second, George, I want
to reiterate what I said just before the break is
the most important thing I'm going to say tonight, and
that is this what is going on. It's not the
(01:03):
United States government doing all it can now to finally
try to understand this phenomena. No, not at all. It's
not about the phenomena. People haven't need to know for
seven decades. What is going on now is a process
within certain constraints and protocols to get out from under
(01:24):
the truth embargo by in a public way doing all
the things that should have been done and will be
done that will get the government and the nation to
the post disclosure world a minimum amount of pain, suffering
and damage. That is what is going on, and that's
why it's very confusing to a lot of people, particularly
(01:45):
if you know something about the phenomena or even in
the modern era, or if you know about the history,
and to give an example of how this connection or
this disconnector what I'm trying to point out is that
back in two thou and eight in at press conference
after one of my ex conferences, edgar Mitchell at doctor
(02:08):
edgar Mitchell, who spoke its podium at the press conference
in the National Press Club and said there's an extra
trustrial presence. In twenty sixteen, Robert Bigelow went on fifteen
minutes and said there's an extraterrestrial presence here. Conferenceman Timbershev
of Tennessee says there's an extra trustrial presence here about
(02:28):
every other week, just a couple of days ago at
the salt Icon extras conference, a big deal in New York,
Gary Nolan, doctor Gary Nolan, said there's an extrustrial presence here,
So expect more people like that, people of high conference
to come forward and say that. But you're going to
hear something else. And Gary basically says this, there's an
(02:51):
extra trustrial presence here and the government has known it
all along, or known it since the nineteen forties. You're
going to hear more people saying that. And that's important.
And the reason that I'm saying is important why because
we want the truth embargo to end, and we recognize
(03:14):
that it's not like you could just suddenly pro press
conference and say, guess what, it's all been true. Too
many moving parts, too many entities and institutions, have too
much history. It's got to be done in an organized,
in a public way, which is exactly what is happening,
all right. That doesn't mean that the public has to
(03:37):
be fooled by that. In other words, what I want,
and I think you're going to see happening, is the
public getting to a position where it understands that what
is happening is not exactly what it seems. That it's
somewhat of a I don't know how to put it.
It's like almost a ritual or a protocol. But in
(03:59):
other words, the government it knows, but they need to
go through this so they can confirm it to us
so we can really get on with the post disclosure world.
It's okay for people to have those two things in
their head at the same time. That's the point I
wanted to get across.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well, that's a big point. But will the government ever
explain why they held back all these years?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Oh? Yeah, yeah. After the confirmation comes from the President
the next probably within twenty four hours, the questions will begin.
They will be intense, and they will be coming from
every direction, and they'll go on for months and years.
But one of the very first questions is going to
be asked by some top journalist of the Secretary of
(04:40):
Defense to the President or whoever is that, when did
the United States government know that this phenomenon is not here?
And the answer will be nineteen forty seven, forty five,
forty six, And people are going to go, really, well,
why did you tell us in national security? We had
(05:03):
very good reasons why this had to be contained and
not out in the public domain. Uh, and we're not
going to apologize for that. There's a lot of things
we do for national security and people go okay, the
millennials go okay, not a problem. So but all of
this is to try to mitigate how difficult it is
(05:24):
going to be to answer that question. And there are
a lot other questions. I mean, so easy. I could
go on and on the tough questions they're going to
have to face, and I appreciate that, but yeah, if
you if you want to serve government, you got to
you gotta handle the tough questions if you.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Can't get another job, Steven. There is one ufologist who's
a darn good one who stands aside from most other ufologists,
and that's David Jacobs, who believes the UFO presence is
not a good one. Where does where does he stand
(05:58):
compared to other people?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, well yeah I wouldn't. I'm trying to see that
the craseypologists eventually go away, just as UFO is going away.
We need new language. It makes it easier for people
to address, to speak to the issue without having to
be touched by all the ridicules and demeaning that that
(06:22):
you've covered it for the decades because of the truth
in Barbo. He is a contact researcher and a professor
of history. He is in I think the minority in
terms of the degree of negativity that he ascribes to
the ET presence. But be sure that there are things
(06:44):
that extra trustors are doing which is going to be
reviewed post disclosure, discussed post disclosures, and some of that
is problematic. Does that mean that the overall outcome is
going to be terrible?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, And I'll be getting into this. Oh I should
mention what about to just touch on a little bit here,
I'm going to go way deeper in in ten days
at a conference in any and Well, it's contact in
the desert.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'll be there. I'll see you there.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You'll be there. I'll be there, and I'm going to
be taking probably I think I have about two to
three hours of questions I'll be able to take, uh,
to try to get into this. But the questions they're
going to have to answer, uh include it was the
United States government where the contact is taking place, in
(07:36):
which ets were doing directly with humans without their consent? Yeah, wow,
uh you knew? Yeah, Well why did you do something
about it? There's nothing we could do. Another question, do
you have any technology that you have been working on
(07:57):
and re engineering that has been developed? It's within the
unknowledged special access programs that could if we're in the
public domain being very useful to us. Answer yes. Now,
you may say, why don't they just answer no. The
reason is simple. This isn't nineteen sixty nine. Is this
(08:20):
is twenty twenty three. Right, there's somewhere between one and
three million.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Podcasts, and we know that there are.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Five six million cell phones with cameras, global communications, social media.
Everything the government does now could be broken down to
the letter to the syllables. Any attempt to lie now
is just literally destroyed within within hours, and the public's
willingness to put up with any more lives is is
(08:47):
not there. And so I think they know this, and
so once confirmation takes place, there is no reason to
lie anymore. They may say that has to remain classified.
I cannot discuss that of concocting a lie simply because
the question is tough would be a colossal blunder. And
on what I'm seeing is they're not going to do that.
(09:09):
But again, these tough questions are why they're having to
go through this right, to do this right, and to
make it transparent and involved the Congress and involve the
DoD and sent up these ended so that when those
tough questions come, they won't look quite as foolish and
as vulnerable as is if they did not go through
(09:29):
this process. Is it easy no? Is it fun no?
Is it frustrating?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
But when you're dealing with what will be the most
profound event in human history, with consequences for every single
human being on the planet, in every country, and it's
possible that our president may be the one that ends
this embargo and confirms it. Clearly, this is something that
has to be treated with a great deal of care,
sophistication and forethought, and you're seeing that unfold. I'm happy
(09:57):
with the process. I hope David Jacobs is not correct
in his thinking that the hybrid concept, which is another
tough question I'm going to have to deal with. Do
you know that hybrid entities are being created by the
EPs government? Answer yes, that the cyber program is not
about replacing humans.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They'll have too other.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Things happen that well. I know we're going to talk
about tonight and we're talking about a contact in the
desert that essentially defends or at least puts that that
that thinking I came off to the side some of
the most important stuff of all, And we'll obviously get
into that. But yeah, David, David's views have got to
(10:39):
be considered, and that possibility can never be ruled out.
But first we've got to get to the post disclosure
world so we can have real conversations about the real
information and we can all make a judgment.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Are you saying these hearings that are eminent? Is this
coming from inside sources you know? Or what? What? Why
do you know this?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
You know it because I follow the news, as you know,
I chronicle all the news on the subjectors. I've got
thirteen thousand articles linked on my site right now. I've
linked five thousands since twenty seventeen. I'm following all these developments.
Most people don't have the time for that, so I
have a pretty good sense of the big picture. Plus,
(11:20):
we have several public sources that have confirmed that nearly
a dozen or more witnesses have already been interviewed by AEROS.
Bob Salliss made that clear, but he's not the only one. Now,
the witnesses they're interviewing are just the right ones. They're
interviewing the nuclear weapons tampering witnesses, they're interviewing pilots, they're
interviewing military people that have specific information about very very
(11:43):
important events. And there is no more important event, no
more important thing regarding the extraterrustrial presence on this planet
in the modern era, than a shutting down of our
nuclear missiles. And I'll be going into that deep as
contact in the desert. That is the one thing that
will should be heavily attendantive as we move forward, not
(12:09):
only the disclosure process but in the post disclosure world.
Why did they turn off our nuclear weapons? And that
gets into a very interesting area. Ye, but for me,
it's a very positive thing.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
What are they trying to prove by doing that? Steven?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
The simple answer, here's the simple answer. The nuclear weapons
tampering is the phrase I use. Others use other things.
But the turning off of nuclear weapons in the United
States and the Soviet Unions on many occasions, including at
least two instances where they set them the missile vent
(12:46):
to launch mode follow which can't be.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Done right, It's almost impossible. It should be impossible.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Well, it went out, the key being turned. All that
scared the hell out of obviously the flight crews, both
in the Kovie Union and the United States. These all
started happening after the Cuban missile crisis. A lot of
people haven't thought about that.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I realized it.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
So we had a Cuban missile crisis. I sat there
in front of the television thirteen days. It was at
eighteen days thirteen, and it's scary as hell. And we
came a lot closer to a nuclear event in that
in that crisis, one could take away from the news
we've learned since then how close we came. A couple
(13:30):
of years later, suddenly these crafts are turning up over
an ICBM light and turning the missiles off. Most of
the witnesses, certainly about Zallas and others, believe this is
a simple message, what in the hell are you doing
with these weapons? Are you crazy?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And we can shut them off anytime we want.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Well, we can shut them off anytime we want, sure,
but they they and they've done it a number of times,
but then they stopped, and we always turn them back on.
So the message is that we can shut them off
anytime we want. The message is we're letting you know
that in terms of us, anybody in your government or
the Soviet government that is making the case we've got
(14:15):
to keep the news. We've got to keep at least
twenty thousand, and of course it's in the sixties. We
were on our way to eighty six thousand nukes by
nineteen ninety five. Is that if you're keeping them because
you think you might need them to deal with us,
you're wasting your money and your time. But just turn
them off. So that's not an excuse. You've got to
(14:37):
make your decision. Do you really want your civilization to
live under mutual search destruction on a daily basis forever?
Is what is your game plan here? But I think
there's even more to it than that. So this will
be the key initial testimony that is going to take
place in front of that first hearing, which I think
will be descended until hearing Maybee Brothers, and it's going
(14:59):
to be my I'm blowing and that's what's going to
get people's attention. Bringing off the nuclear weapons is one
hundred times more significant than somebody seeing a tictack.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
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