October 20, 2022 • 37 mins
Ashley Tisdale is back in the O.R.! She has a real Modern Woman story of manifesting a line at Target! She shares the incredible story of how she made her dreams come true.
Ashley gets raw and honest about motherhood and how NOTHING prepares you for the experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scruading in with Becca Tilly and Tanya Ren and I
heart radio podcast. Hello everybody, It's Thursday. It's Tisdale Thursday.
I was trying to make a but it didn't work out.
It's actually Tisdale. It's it's actually Fisdale Thursday, exactly Fisdale Thursday.
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And I am pumped. I have been wanting Astley Tisdale
on the pod. I feel like she's been on the
pod many years ago. Yeah, she was, it was in studio,
so it's been in a while, and I've been wanting
her for a minute. So I'm very excited because um,
I got her frenchy line, Like, I got a lot
of her stuff. I cannot wait to just tell her
how incredible it is. Well. Actually, Tisdale is one of
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those people to me that she is a like a
like a powerhouse modern woman, female entrepreneur. She started out
as like an actress. She was in one of the
most crazy, like famous franchises in high school. Musical was
huge and still and she is like pivoted into so
many different areas. She started this wellness brand which turned
into like this actual physical wellness brand. Yeah, because it
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was just frenchy at first, you know, like the wellness
her website and stuff, and then it got turned into
the company being French and it's a target and it's
a target, I mean the dream, the dream. So we're
gonna be talking to her, and um, I'm super excited
to have her on the podcast age. Yeah, let's bring
her in. Let's bring her in, all right, you guys,
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we have her scrubbing in round two Ashley Tisdawn. Um,
So before we get into our questions and like everything
that we just want to talk to about because we're
just obsess with you because you're just so many things.
And I feel like I was talking to Becca and
I was like, I just find her. So I think
that you are just such a You've pivoted into so
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many different areas and you've crushed every single one of them.
But you're also so down to earth and just like
a girl's girl, and I'm just up us with you.
But we were talking about your we were talking about
your line being Frenchy and how obsessed we are with it.
I the body wash is the greatest body wash I
have ever used. I used it and then I went
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into my bedroom and I was like, my girlfriend was
in there and she was like, what are you doing.
I'm like, something smells so good, but I don't know
what that is. It was literally me just walking in
the bedroom from a bathroom on the other side of
my house. My bedroom smelled like it is the best.
I'm not kidding, I am, And I never knew how
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much I needed pillow spray until I tried yours. Like
I was like, what if I've been missing out on
my entire life. I'm just curious about the process because
a lot of people, who you know, a lot of
people just throw their name on something and it's kind
of like, here's my product, and it's fine. But I'm
just telling you there's like a difference in what you've done,
because it is every single product smells incredible and you
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can tell there was like a lot thoughtfulness put into it.
So what was the process of creating like the sense
and the products and knowing like what you wanted it
to be and feel like, yeah, I mean, I think
it's honestly just because it was based off my blog Frenchie,
which was a blog I started in the very pandem
in the very beginning of the pandemic, and it was
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really just something that I wanted to be creative and
to share my mental health journey. So I actually was
really excited that it wasn't about products and it didn't
have that pressure of having products. It was something that
was just like sharing my stories, sharing like experts that
I've worked with, sharing other people's stories, being really vulnerable,
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and like opening up myself in a new way where
people got to like know myself more, Um, I know
who I am rather than just like a character. But uh,
but then as I was doing that and like listening
to the community, I I had never been home that
long in my life, but I think a lot of
this probably weren't home that flung. I'm like that was
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like a really long time for me to like not
beyond set and stuff. So I just started to like
really ground myself and create rituals to help my anxiety,
and um, a lot of it is just like super
simple things like opening a window and lighting a candle
in the room really change the energy for me. And
so then I was just like, oh my god, Like
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what is that? Like is it the fragrance? So then
I started research researching, like you know, the mood brain
and how fragrance can really lift us up and so
that was really kind of like the very beginning of
the product life and um and then yeah, I mean
the fact that I could create products that we're not
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just sitting in your shower stall but just like actually
mood boosting you and making you feel good. It's just
something that I was like, Yeah, that that to me
makes me feel good, Like I just want to make
people feel good, and um, I feel like hopefully being
Frenchy is something that makes people aware of, Okay, taking
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like a little moment to myself, whether that's like something
with the hand sing um or like a full on
bath ritual and using like multiple of the products. But
it's really about kind of just like taking a moment
for you, whether you are like a stressed out college
student or a new mom or just like need a
little boost. Yeah. I love bath so like I have
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tried everything, the body wash, the bath bombs, and then
I go in and I spray my Linen's. It's it's
truly a gift to someone who's not a mom or
a student. No, but it's and it's also I think
like you really kind of hit the nail on the
head because you said you really wanted to create a
line that was I think you said accessible and affordable,
and I think that you know what I mean, Like,
I think there's a lot of well Miss brands out there,
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but you look at them and you're like, you know,
I'm buying an eighteen dollar smoothie Push Smoothie from Arawan,
and it's like sometimes it's like a little bit, you know,
it's a little bit. And that's where I wanted to
start friends you was just because I felt like in
the wellness world, everything just felt very expensive and attainable
for myself. So I was like, I can't imagine someone
following me how they would feel. And so really French
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she is all about wellnesses for everyone and UM for me,
my dream in life was to have a line of
Target because I was just like, I'm obsessed with Target
and so, you know, being able to create this line
where everything is seventeen dollars and below is amazing. Okay,
I do want to talk about that because when you
when when you launched Being Frenchy, you did like this
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retreat and it was a couple of days and it
was in Orange County and it was right before I
went to UM New York. I was going on vacation.
But I remember getting the invite and I was like,
I can't miss this. I can make it for like
a day. So I only got to experience like two
of the activities, and I'm telling you, I came home
a changed women. I was texting Becca and I was like,
I was like, oh my gosh, I worked with this
manifestation coach and I realized, like everything that I'm trying
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to manifest I already have, and like all of these
things kind of really clicked for me, even like the
conversations I had with you and some of the girls,
Like I just felt like I had a elite, powerful
day at this retreat. And I want you to kind
of talk about the manifestation coach and kind of how
she's helped you, because you were saying it was a
dream of yours to always have a line at Target,
and I feel like a lot of people listening might
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have like a dream and they don't know how you
go from like having a dream to actually making it
into like a practical reality Like that takes a lot
of steps, and so I want you to kind of
like walk through how you did that. Yeah, I mean
that was actually like one of my favorite that launch,
like wellness retreat was just like something I dreamt of
because it was a lot of the experts that I've used,
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Like my yoga teacher throughout my whole pregnancy was there. Um,
but she's also done like a blog on French cheese.
So it's just like really so awesome to have like
all your favorite people together and like meeting new people
and um, that was just like such an amazing experience.
Everybody left there being like my life has changed. Like
that is the message of being Frenchy and Freendchi is
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that like it's just that experience. It's that feeling that
like you know, makes you feel good and um and yeah,
the manifestation course, I was so excited to have Heather
there because I am a big believer in manifestation but
I used um lazy phillips her to be magnetic course
like years ago. And it was really interesting because I
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was taking over a makeup line at the time, because
like it was something that I had, like I said,
dreamt of having my own company. And I'm someone who,
like when I'm not on a TV show, I like
to be working in other areas and being creative, and
so I had taken over my makeup line. And I
was doing this like manifestation course. And it's interesting because
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it's like you can like put a like a picture
on a vision board, but that doesn't mean like that's
meant for you. And so it teaches you to believe
like everything that is meant for you will come to you,
but you have to kind of like look for the
red flags or the pains. And so basically I thought,
like this makeup line was it. There was so many
red flags being like this is not it, do not
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do this. And it was the most stressful and hardest
thing I'd ever done in my career, to be honest,
Like I felt like I went through business school that year.
I was like putting in discount codes on Shopify as
I was like in a makeup trailer for my Netflix series.
I was like running this whole thing by myself, had
no team to support me, and it was so brutal.
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And it just got to a point where I was
just like my goal was to have that line and
target and I I just sat there and I was
like I failed, Like I didn't do this right and
I failed, and I I just I can't keep going,
like I I just kind of was like, you're done, Ashley,
It's time to like let this go. And I cried
and my mom still say, it is so like you've
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been failed. I'm like, it's okay, Mom, I failed, you know.
But the thing is is that the reason why there
was like this message and and and behind it, and
then why was because I wanted to make people feel
good about themselves with makeup, and and I think that
I just was like trying to do that with makeup.
It's kind of like kind of funny when you even
hear that extra like well, what do you mean makeup?
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Like that's like just such a funny way to make
like have people feel good. And so it's interesting how
literally two years later, Frenchy came about because of my
experience of Illuminate, like all of that negative and stress
that I had taken on during that time. I had
seen so many different like practitioners thinking something was wrong
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with me, and I was like just so anxious and
they're like you're just really anxious, and I'm like, no,
something's wrong. But I took that information and that stressful
time and I made Frenchy and then to have being
Frenchy products like being target to me, people always say,
and it's kind of like, Becca, what you said in
the very beginning, was I scared because there's a lot
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of celebrity lines out right now and people just like
put their name on on stuff. And I wasn't scared.
It never even crossed my mind that this wouldn't come
off how it really truly has been, which is I'm
involved in every aspect of this company, and I wasn't
nervous about like what I was gonna do, because I
think that to me, the journey and the success was
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like seeing it. I'll still get like emotional, but was
seeing it in Target and like being like, oh my god,
I did it. Like I got up from what I
thought I failed at something and I kept going and
like it's here and like that's like that to me
was like that's successful. And now the fact that everybody
loves it and it's buying it is like just like
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saying on the cake, but um, but it's kind of
cool because then you just like, I guess my perspective
of success changed in that moment where it's like it's
not really about like all the kind of noise around you,
it's really about like what you know what you do
when you put your heart into Yeah, I know. I
think a lot of people don't know the backstory, you
know what I mean. They just like they see the
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successes and they don't know the failures. And so I
think that's like so encouraging to hear because I think
a lot of the time, like people fail or like
go through slumps or you know what I mean, Like
they hit this wall and it's just a matter of
about like getting back up and like it will come
to firm because no one wants to like everybody wants
to see like the Instagram version of it, and like
usually it's like out or when people are talking about it.
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But it was so funny because I did some stuff
on like reels when I was developing it. But I
was just sit there and I was like, the truth
is it's like you're on Zoom meetings all the time.
Like that's not really fun to like don't want to
see that, Like, Okay, you're on zooms again. I'm like, yes,
Zoom every single day, multiple times a day as a founder.
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So it's like I think it's just like either people
just might think it's like kind of boring to look at,
but you know, the work is really hard and it's
like not the most cutest Instagram herble moments, but um,
I think it's important to kind of show that stuff
because it's not just like from zero to a hundred,
you know, it's like there's a lot of in between.
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I like what you said about um, there was no
fear in the fact that, like a lot of other
people were putting stuff out, because I always think like
when something's right, like when when you're doing something that's
in your path that's supposed to happen, there's not anxiety
or fear around it. Like there might be excitement, there
might be like, oh my gosh, I hope this does well,
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but there's never that like crushing feeling of like is
it gonna do well, that like fear and anxiety around it.
And I feel like that's such a great example because
the makeup thing, you felt that like literally it sent
you to the doctor. You're feeling it so heavy, like
it was like clearly going down a path I should not. Yeah,
And it's like so important to listen to those feelings
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because I think a lot of times again in our
head and we're like no, like that's nor mole to
feel that way, and I think like there is a
difference of feeling excited and nervous, like I hope everyone
likes this as much as I do, versus I'm literally
making myself sick from this. So I think that's like
a really important lesson and to know that, like, you
can try something and if it's not meant to be,
it's not going to happen, and you might consider it failure,
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But it doesn't mean there's not another path that's supposed
to happen. This bigger and better. Yeah, it doesn't mean
Because I could see being Frenchy expanding into makeup world.
I don't know if that's even a plan, but like
who knows, not not yet, especially like at the time
I was in makeup, it wasn't as like kind of oversaturated.
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I don't like to do things that everyone else is doing,
so I'm like, probably gonna stay away from makeup. But um,
but I do think that, you know, being Frenchy will
expand into other categories. I was gonna say, do you
see it going into like a home Caroline, Like what's
your Because when I think of being Frenchie, it's cozy,
like that feeling of just like come for closiness. Yeah, yes, um,
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I mean right now we obviously going are going to
expand with new moods and also extend some of the
existing products and moods UM because right now it's just
like the moods match, like basically the sensor um for
specific you know what what we have to I think
in the deep conditioner, but we might expand a couple
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more in the deep commisitor. So um, right now it's
expanding the line as is, but then also different moods.
But for sure there are a lot of stuff that
we have just you know in development. We can't share
it in the mind there in the mind. For for us,
it's like I love just having products that I know
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that are clean ingredients and that um our mood boosting,
and it's I mean, all of the sense are my
favorite because they're all based off of my candles. UM.
But the funny part is is Cashmere Vanilla is like
one of our top sellars and that's actually based off
of my love for cooking Trader Joe's Jasmine rice. It
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would smell my kitchen up and so it was like
the best, I mean it still is the best smell
and I basically was like, I have to capture this
for one of the sects, and they did. They actually,
like in the lab they somehow created this like bubble
around the jasmine rice and we added some a couple
of things in it. But it's so funny to see
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that like that is like the number one cent. Wow.
So it's all so good. Um, But I also want
to talk about um part of the power of partnership
because I feel like when I met you, I feel
like when I met you, you were dating your husband
at the time, or maybe you were married. I don't
really know the time, because you guys have been together
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for a while now yeah yeah, we've been married for
like eight years together like ten Yeah, but I don't
remember when I met him. I was like, this guy
is just the sweet, like he's the of this thing.
I've only met him, like I think once or twice,
but even through like your Instagram and stuff, I can
just be I just feel how like supportive and sweet
he is. And you obviously you had a baby, and
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like you're doing all of these things, and I feel
like there's so much in the power of partnership. So hey,
I don't really remember how you guys met, so I
wanted to talk about that and then like maybe the
partnership because I think it's important. Yeah. Well, long story
short is that we met through friends and I had
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known him for a long time before dating him. Um,
he had dated someone I knew, I had dated someone
he knew. And uh, turns out like I was kind
of in this like back and forth with in a
relationship that was just clearly like toxic and not great
for me. Um. And it wasn't until I finally was like, okay,
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this guy is just like I'm not gonna marry this
guy and this is like not right and I should
not be treated this way. And so I really close
was that door. But as I closed that door, Um,
I was seeing Chris at soul Cycle all the time,
and I was just like, oh, there's that guy. He's
so sweet, like he's such a nice guy and um.
And so I had had a psychic actually tell me
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one time at a reading years prior. She was like, um,
the guy are going to Mary is actually in your life.
And I was like, there's no one I want to
marry if this is not okay. But then I started
to like that he was a perfect example like he
was in my life, but I didn't really know him,
and I didn't think about that when she said that.
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I thought it was like someone that was actively like
in my life, and um, basically I would just seeing
a soul cycle. And then we would always like come
into each other on Instagram and Twitter, you know, shooting
a movie in Atlanta when I had really truly ended
my last relationship, and we he popped up on my Facebook.
We became Facebook friends, and then there was this like
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one night when I was back months later and we
were all hanging out in Santa Monica like my friends,
and I invited him, being like, you know what, he's
such a cool guy. I don't really know him and
I should just like maybe just like get to know
him because he's so sweet. But I didn't even remember
if he was like cute or not or any of that.
And so he came up to Santa Monica and I
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looked at him and I was like, oh my god,
he's so hot. It's like and basically we it was
like that night. I remember having a ping where I
looked at him too, like hours later, and I was like,
oh my god, this is the guy you're gonna marry
and I was like what And I was like, there's
no way, Like I've never felt that way. So I
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was just playing it cool. I was like, if anything,
I'm just gonna not gonna rush into this relationship because
if if he's the one, like I should, like, I
don't know, just like take it easy for a minute.
And so it's not like rushing into it. But he
clearly was like hanging out with me too, and then
like we started dating and eight months later we were engaged. Wow,
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So how long, like how long did y'all know each other?
Like how long was he someone that you knew before
y'all hung out that night in Santa Monica. I would say, uh,
it was like two, two or three years prior. They
had an invisible string string another another one for the
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stringing invisible string like the Taylor Swift song. Oh yes,
She's like, I don't have no idea what you're y Yeah. Actually,
that was one of the first times I actually met him,
not in cinematica like first met him. I did say
to him, oh my god, I feel like I know you.
I feel like we've met each other before. And he
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was like no. But I had this kind of like
weird feeling like I knew him, so I think we
have like been together in past lives. See, I feel
that way too, And I asked my girlfriend and she
felt that way and she was like no, and I
was like, thanks for shutting that and one down quick, Oh,
I don't want to talk about you have a baby.
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And I'm curious how when because Tanya and I are
both like we love hearing stories about um like relationships
and babies, and like when y'all had the baby, was
there a shift in y'all's relationships. Babies there are a
lot of work. It's a lot more we assume there
are a lot of work. Yeah. Yes, literally today we're
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in the back of a taxi and exhausted and I
was like had my hand and Chris and I just
like parenting is so hard. Um. It has for sure
shifted our relationship like we were um prior. I mean
we've been married for eight years and like hardly would
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fight about anything, Like we never thought about stuff like
very little arguments in our relationship. We've never fought so
much after having the baby, because it's just it's a lot,
it's so much. It's not something that like I'm actually
developing something right now. I can't talk too much about it,
but I am developing something about our relationship and having
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a baby, because it's like no one prepares you for that,
and it prepares you for the baby to come, like
you have a doula that like it's like this is
what's gonna happen when you're in labor, and then you
have like books that tell you what happens but the baby,
but no one literally tells you like get ready. Your
relationship is going to be a roller coaster. It's like
it's just like at first you feel so alone because also,
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like I know people who are moms, they never told
me either. It was like the secret that no one
wants to talk about. And I'm just like, let's just
be honest about this stuff because then people when it
feels so alone in it, but it is, it's just
like it does shift because you know, like compared to before,
like we're very independent people, me and Chris, so it's
just like we would have each other and then we
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also have like our work and do our own thing,
and now we have like this little baby that we're
we're trying to balance it all and it's very hard
to do that, but we're also like she's number one priority,
so it's like it kind of pushes us off to
like we come in second you our relationships. So it's
just one of those things where you have to actively
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make sure that you're like taking the time and also
like just coming together as a team. Sometimes it feels
like you're off on the different pages when parenting and
like with the baby, you just like I might have
a different thing where I'm like, oh, I think she can,
you know, watch her little iPad, and no, she should
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not be watching the I pad right now. So it's
just those things that like haven't really ever come up.
But I think the perfect way to speak about it
is like everyone has flaws and you kind of know
those flaws when you get into relationship, but they just
might not bother you. When you have a child, those
flaws start to bother you. There's that one flaw. I'm
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so curious, like what what like what like what's something
that you knew about that You're like, whatever, it's fine,
but that has like stood out now having a baby. Say,
in the past, I get ready really fast, and Chris
would take some time getting ready to like go to
lunch or go to breakfast, like he just kind of
takes his time doing things. And I think that before
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I was just like whatever, you know, like it's fine,
I'll just like wait and like I kind of I
get angry, so I'm Mike, I'll just wait, let's go
to lunch. Come on, dude, like I'll grab a snack.
But now it's like, Okay, I got myself ready, I
got the baby ready, and we're still waiting on you,
like come on, Like he just like once on a weekend.
It's just like Chris. It's very present. He likes to
take his time doing everything. So it's just like that
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stuff where you're like, so my boyfriend has two kids,
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and um we I didn't meet the kids for like
a year into dating. And it's so when I look
at how our relationship was prior to me meeting the
kids versus now, like now it's been two years that
I've known the kids, so it's like a whole you know,
it's like a whole different thing. But it did totally
shift our relationship and I feel and not in a
bad way, but it's different. And I can't even imagine
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what it's like having like a newborn because his kids
are older, they're like, you know, so they can get older.
I feel like it's probably a little bit easier, but
it's like it's kind of just like that the stakes
are very high. You're just trying to like, you know,
keep this whole thing alive. You're like, don't know what
you're doing. This is the first time. You're just like
this is so crazy, and you're just trying to do everything.
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And we're both like so in love with her, so
we're like those parents were breakfast. It's she's got like
that only child syndrome. Right now. She's just like sits
there and she'll have like I'll be holding her hand,
he's holding her foot and she's just like eating her
foot and we're just like sitting there her supporting her.
And I'm like, Chris Christin, you look at each other.
We're like this one. She she's like this is she's
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the only child. She's like she just this is the
first child. Girls like bless her future husband. You know.
I literally said Rocks, like, girl, you have some high standards.
You hopefully will find someone like your dad because this
is crazy. No, I think it's really I think it's
really interesting because you're right I don't think people. I
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think there's like it's the same thing how I see
it as when people talk about um like postpartum and
like depression, like what they go through. And the more
people have talked about it, the more people have come
out and been like, oh me two, I've went through that.
And I think it's starting the conversation of like because
I think there's this expectation of when you have kids
that you're going to be like more in love with
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each other than ever, and I imagine it does bring
a sense of like a new kind of love seeing
your partner as a parent, you know, but no one
really talks about the other part of like we're exhausted.
This is really hard. I remember having that moment with
Chris and he was just like right after Jupiter rose born,
he was just like, I have never been so happy
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with my wife, like I love you, and he was like,
just so, we're so so happy. But then it's like
you're in this honeymoon phase of it where she's just
like you just sleep and eat and it's just like
so easy. And then it's like, you know, if you
come out of it, because you're just now it's like
then they're crawling, and then you're do they're doing this,
and now you're doing solids, and it's just like so
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many things that you're just trying to learn along the
way as well, and you're just it's just a lot.
It's a lot, and um, I think that, yeah, it's
it is you are. There are things about it that
you're like, of course, like when I see him with
my daughter, I'm like, Chris is the best at and
he's so amazing with her and so it makes me
obviously fall in love with him even more. Um, but
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it's just like also there's just as times where it's
just like it's hard, you know, it's and it's hard work,
and um, yeah, having a kid is not so easy,
but like I feel like you do it so gracefully,
Like how do you compartmentalize? Like I feel like like
I can't even I don't even want to know what
it's going to be like for me because I can
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barely leave my puppies side, Like I think about when
I'm away for too many hours, I actually think about
her and like this is a dog I didn't even birth.
This thing still obsets with our dogs, Like I'm we're
like in New York City and we have our baby
here and I'm like, I miss her dos, which I
love about you, by the way. Um, I think it's
just like such a balancing act. Someone told me once
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that they're like, you know, you're there's going to be
those moments in life where you're like really heavy with work,
and then there's gonna be moments in life where you're
like you're killing it as a mom and that's okay.
You know, there's gonna be times where you know, like
I don't get to spend as much time with her
during the day because I'm working. Um, but it uh,
and so there's this mom guilt that is like completely
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like something you always go through. But at the end
of the day, then there's like, you know, a good
amount of time where I'm like, cool, I have a
day off and like I could to just like hang
out with her and like do things with her and
make it her day. And so it is like a
tough balancing act, but um, I love also having her
be a part of the stuff that I do. And
I've just been really blessed because a lot of my
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work so far has been working from home. Like I
was developing this line at home, like developing a wellness line.
You guys, It's like it's like this say is I
can't believe this is my job. Like I sat there
with all these some formulas, just being in a bath
every single day, just like completely bringing all these rituals,
creating the rituals and um, and so I always got
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to feear like every day like a lot of people
don't get to do that. So I've been really blessed
with that. But you just kind of I don't think
you're ever going I don't think you'll ever be like, yeah,
I'm really like killing it as a mom and doing
all this stuff, and I'm like so good at it.
Like I think you're always gonna feel like you could
be doing better. But it's it's just been present, you know,
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Like that's the biggest thing. It's like, when I'm really
present with you do is when I'm feel the best.
When I feel like I'm juggling a couple of things
and I'm with her, that doesn't make me feel so great.
So I try to be like very present when I'm
with her. I feel like you've done a really good
job because you're you have a good group of friends
who are also in the industry, which is a very
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um niche industry to be a part of, you know.
And also I feel like it's like, yeah, I mean
always a really big city tecalice level. But um, I
feel like a lot of them have like are becoming
moms or our moms too. Has it been fun to
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have like people who understand like a very specific part
of your work and also being a mom and balance
sing it. Yeah, I mean I have like a group
of moms that, um that the kids are all in
it like Sunday like gym class together. At first it
was music class and now it's gym class, And I'm
so grateful for them because there was so cool about
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them is they're all like these like kick ass moms
that work and like they all do something different from
what I do, but they work really hard and they're
like constantly like you know, kind of out there and
killing it but also feeling the same way I'm feeling.
So I feel not so alone all the time. Um.
And also like the dad's kind of like are taking
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on more of the kind of at home with the kids,
which is very different. But then it's kind of cool
because like Chris has friends that you know are doing
that too, and so it's almost like it's like obviously
not as traditional as it used to be. It's so
different now. But I think that that's what's really cool
is that you just like have a lot of people
in your life that maybe you can feel the same
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way of like no matter what they do, they feel
the same way of like what you go through and um,
that kind of you know, like right now, studios in
a phase where all she wants to do is be
with daddy because you know, Chris is with her a
lot and um, and so I'm just like, I just
birthed you and got you in my stomach for nine months.
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My stomach has never been the same since. But sure,
just be with your dad all the time. It's like, okay, fine,
he's your favorite. But it's just the phase, they say,
and the community of women around you that are always
lifting you up. I agree. I'm trying to. I try
to convince all my friends and like, when it's time
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to have babies, we gotta do this together. Yeah. Yeah,
I think we're on the different timeline, different timelines, but
it's fine. She'll come to the other side. Yeah, maybe, um,
do you have any I mean You're from such a
massive franchise High School Musical, and it's just like, what's
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been really cool watching your careers how what Tanya said earlier,
You've been able to pivot and do so many other
things beyond like your time at Disney. Do you ever
feel like an it to like return and do like
a reunion or anything like that, or do you feel
like that's behind you and you're looking forward. I think
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I think it's behind me, um, only because I feel like,
you know, we've got we always get asked that question.
And the thing about I was watching actually um Chris
put on High School Musical to show that she put
her and I was like, oh my god, Um, and
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I was watching myself and I was just like, gosh,
it was so long ago, and sure, Pay, I've just
changed as a person so much when I played her,
and I was very unaware of myself at that time
in my life. If and I felt like that really
was like a lot of what Sharpay was. And so
I just don't feel like I could ever, you know,
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really fulfill her shoes in any way now, you know,
like I would. I don't think I would be doing
a good job at that. And I really think sometimes
a classics should stay a classic, and like I wouldn't
want to tarnish what everyone thinks of Sharpey, but I
also just feel like I feel with Frenchy and being Frenchy,
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like finally, um, people are getting to know me for me,
like personally, and I am excited on this next chapter
of where they get to know me more versus playing
like a character they know or thinking of like a character,
and so I am kind of just more looking ahead.
I love that. I mean, I agree, I think classics
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should stay a classic and I might go home and
one done right now, one done right, one done right.
It can be like amazing, but it's few and far between.
So I'm with you on the like keeping it like
you know, keeping it on the high that it was
because and who knows, like maybe in ten years you'll
be like cool, like that would be fun to do,
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like a resurgen. But I think like what you're doing
now and and your awareness of yourself and like what
you want and being a mom and a wife and
a businesswoman and creating this wellness line and expanding it
is really really cool and it's I think people who
know you from that series and like in following your
journey now is like really empowering for people to see
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like you can just keep going, you can keep like
elevating yourself. Yeah, that's true. We are big Ashley Tuesdale fans.
So anytime you have more products um for being Frenchy,
please come back and scrubbing. Yeah, and please send them.
But like, honestly, I really, like I said, I said
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it before, and I really just want you to know, like,
and I don't think you even realize how many people
are in firing as you're going along your own journey,
but like you always are constant inspiration for me, and
I just admire so much about what you do and
who you are. So take that with you. If you're
having a bad day, you can think about that. Put
that in your back pocket. The best. Well, thanks for
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taking time to scrub in again, and congratulations on everything.
We're obviously big fans of you and everyone go shop
and buy everything from Target that you can find because
it's incredible. Um, and where can everyone follow you? And
is there like any specifically TikTok Instagram, being Frenchy Instagram
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as well, But everything is just Ashley Tisdale and being
French cheese on TikTok as well, um French she uh.
Those are the places where I'm at. I actually do
like if you comment or DM on Frenchie's So Funny,
Like I I actually have more communication with people on
the French e um d m s because they asked
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like interesting questions about mental health and stuff and I
love that stuff so um so yeah, I always reach out.
All right, if you want to hear from Ashley Tisdale,
go on the French Friend. You're about to get inundated
with some much for scrubbing in today
Scruading in with Becca Tilly and Tanya Ren and I
heart radio podcast. Hello everybody, It's Thursday. It's Tisdale Thursday.
I was trying to make a but it didn't work out.
It's actually Tisdale. It's it's actually Fisdale Thursday, exactly Fisdale Thursday.
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And I am pumped. I have been wanting Astley Tisdale
on the pod. I feel like she's been on the
pod many years ago. Yeah, she was, it was in studio,
so it's been in a while, and I've been wanting
her for a minute. So I'm very excited because um,
I got her frenchy line, Like, I got a lot
of her stuff. I cannot wait to just tell her
how incredible it is. Well. Actually, Tisdale is one of
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those people to me that she is a like a
like a powerhouse modern woman, female entrepreneur. She started out
as like an actress. She was in one of the
most crazy, like famous franchises in high school. Musical was
huge and still and she is like pivoted into so
many different areas. She started this wellness brand which turned
into like this actual physical wellness brand. Yeah, because it
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was just frenchy at first, you know, like the wellness
her website and stuff, and then it got turned into
the company being French and it's a target and it's
a target, I mean the dream, the dream. So we're
gonna be talking to her, and um, I'm super excited
to have her on the podcast age. Yeah, let's bring
her in. Let's bring her in, all right, you guys,
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we have her scrubbing in round two Ashley Tisdawn. Um,
So before we get into our questions and like everything
that we just want to talk to about because we're
just obsess with you because you're just so many things.
And I feel like I was talking to Becca and
I was like, I just find her. So I think
that you are just such a You've pivoted into so
(01:52):
many different areas and you've crushed every single one of them.
But you're also so down to earth and just like
a girl's girl, and I'm just up us with you.
But we were talking about your we were talking about
your line being Frenchy and how obsessed we are with it.
I the body wash is the greatest body wash I
have ever used. I used it and then I went
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into my bedroom and I was like, my girlfriend was
in there and she was like, what are you doing.
I'm like, something smells so good, but I don't know
what that is. It was literally me just walking in
the bedroom from a bathroom on the other side of
my house. My bedroom smelled like it is the best.
I'm not kidding, I am, And I never knew how
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much I needed pillow spray until I tried yours. Like
I was like, what if I've been missing out on
my entire life. I'm just curious about the process because
a lot of people, who you know, a lot of
people just throw their name on something and it's kind
of like, here's my product, and it's fine. But I'm
just telling you there's like a difference in what you've done,
because it is every single product smells incredible and you
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can tell there was like a lot thoughtfulness put into it.
So what was the process of creating like the sense
and the products and knowing like what you wanted it
to be and feel like, yeah, I mean, I think
it's honestly just because it was based off my blog Frenchie,
which was a blog I started in the very pandem
in the very beginning of the pandemic, and it was
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really just something that I wanted to be creative and
to share my mental health journey. So I actually was
really excited that it wasn't about products and it didn't
have that pressure of having products. It was something that
was just like sharing my stories, sharing like experts that
I've worked with, sharing other people's stories, being really vulnerable,
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and like opening up myself in a new way where
people got to like know myself more, Um, I know
who I am rather than just like a character. But uh,
but then as I was doing that and like listening
to the community, I I had never been home that
long in my life, but I think a lot of
this probably weren't home that flung. I'm like that was
(04:01):
like a really long time for me to like not
beyond set and stuff. So I just started to like
really ground myself and create rituals to help my anxiety,
and um, a lot of it is just like super
simple things like opening a window and lighting a candle
in the room really change the energy for me. And
so then I was just like, oh my god, Like
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what is that? Like is it the fragrance? So then
I started research researching, like you know, the mood brain
and how fragrance can really lift us up and so
that was really kind of like the very beginning of
the product life and um and then yeah, I mean
the fact that I could create products that we're not
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just sitting in your shower stall but just like actually
mood boosting you and making you feel good. It's just
something that I was like, Yeah, that that to me
makes me feel good, Like I just want to make
people feel good, and um, I feel like hopefully being
Frenchy is something that makes people aware of, Okay, taking
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like a little moment to myself, whether that's like something
with the hand sing um or like a full on
bath ritual and using like multiple of the products. But
it's really about kind of just like taking a moment
for you, whether you are like a stressed out college
student or a new mom or just like need a
little boost. Yeah. I love bath so like I have
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tried everything, the body wash, the bath bombs, and then
I go in and I spray my Linen's. It's it's
truly a gift to someone who's not a mom or
a student. No, but it's and it's also I think
like you really kind of hit the nail on the
head because you said you really wanted to create a
line that was I think you said accessible and affordable,
and I think that you know what I mean, Like,
I think there's a lot of well Miss brands out there,
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but you look at them and you're like, you know,
I'm buying an eighteen dollar smoothie Push Smoothie from Arawan,
and it's like sometimes it's like a little bit, you know,
it's a little bit. And that's where I wanted to
start friends you was just because I felt like in
the wellness world, everything just felt very expensive and attainable
for myself. So I was like, I can't imagine someone
following me how they would feel. And so really French
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she is all about wellnesses for everyone and UM for me,
my dream in life was to have a line of
Target because I was just like, I'm obsessed with Target
and so, you know, being able to create this line
where everything is seventeen dollars and below is amazing. Okay,
I do want to talk about that because when you
when when you launched Being Frenchy, you did like this
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retreat and it was a couple of days and it
was in Orange County and it was right before I
went to UM New York. I was going on vacation.
But I remember getting the invite and I was like,
I can't miss this. I can make it for like
a day. So I only got to experience like two
of the activities, and I'm telling you, I came home
a changed women. I was texting Becca and I was like,
I was like, oh my gosh, I worked with this
manifestation coach and I realized, like everything that I'm trying
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to manifest I already have, and like all of these
things kind of really clicked for me, even like the
conversations I had with you and some of the girls,
Like I just felt like I had a elite, powerful
day at this retreat. And I want you to kind
of talk about the manifestation coach and kind of how
she's helped you, because you were saying it was a
dream of yours to always have a line at Target,
and I feel like a lot of people listening might
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have like a dream and they don't know how you
go from like having a dream to actually making it
into like a practical reality Like that takes a lot
of steps, and so I want you to kind of
like walk through how you did that. Yeah, I mean
that was actually like one of my favorite that launch,
like wellness retreat was just like something I dreamt of
because it was a lot of the experts that I've used,
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Like my yoga teacher throughout my whole pregnancy was there. Um,
but she's also done like a blog on French cheese.
So it's just like really so awesome to have like
all your favorite people together and like meeting new people
and um, that was just like such an amazing experience.
Everybody left there being like my life has changed. Like
that is the message of being Frenchy and Freendchi is
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that like it's just that experience. It's that feeling that
like you know, makes you feel good and um and yeah,
the manifestation course, I was so excited to have Heather
there because I am a big believer in manifestation but
I used um lazy phillips her to be magnetic course
like years ago. And it was really interesting because I
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was taking over a makeup line at the time, because
like it was something that I had, like I said,
dreamt of having my own company. And I'm someone who,
like when I'm not on a TV show, I like
to be working in other areas and being creative, and
so I had taken over my makeup line. And I
was doing this like manifestation course. And it's interesting because
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it's like you can like put a like a picture
on a vision board, but that doesn't mean like that's
meant for you. And so it teaches you to believe
like everything that is meant for you will come to you,
but you have to kind of like look for the
red flags or the pains. And so basically I thought,
like this makeup line was it. There was so many
red flags being like this is not it, do not
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do this. And it was the most stressful and hardest
thing I'd ever done in my career, to be honest,
Like I felt like I went through business school that year.
I was like putting in discount codes on Shopify as
I was like in a makeup trailer for my Netflix series.
I was like running this whole thing by myself, had
no team to support me, and it was so brutal.
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And it just got to a point where I was
just like my goal was to have that line and
target and I I just sat there and I was
like I failed, Like I didn't do this right and
I failed, and I I just I can't keep going,
like I I just kind of was like, you're done, Ashley,
It's time to like let this go. And I cried
and my mom still say, it is so like you've
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been failed. I'm like, it's okay, Mom, I failed, you know.
But the thing is is that the reason why there
was like this message and and and behind it, and
then why was because I wanted to make people feel
good about themselves with makeup, and and I think that
I just was like trying to do that with makeup.
It's kind of like kind of funny when you even
hear that extra like well, what do you mean makeup?
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Like that's like just such a funny way to make
like have people feel good. And so it's interesting how
literally two years later, Frenchy came about because of my
experience of Illuminate, like all of that negative and stress
that I had taken on during that time. I had
seen so many different like practitioners thinking something was wrong
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with me, and I was like just so anxious and
they're like you're just really anxious, and I'm like, no,
something's wrong. But I took that information and that stressful
time and I made Frenchy and then to have being
Frenchy products like being target to me, people always say,
and it's kind of like, Becca, what you said in
the very beginning, was I scared because there's a lot
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of celebrity lines out right now and people just like
put their name on on stuff. And I wasn't scared.
It never even crossed my mind that this wouldn't come
off how it really truly has been, which is I'm
involved in every aspect of this company, and I wasn't
nervous about like what I was gonna do, because I
think that to me, the journey and the success was
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like seeing it. I'll still get like emotional, but was
seeing it in Target and like being like, oh my god,
I did it. Like I got up from what I
thought I failed at something and I kept going and
like it's here and like that's like that to me
was like that's successful. And now the fact that everybody
loves it and it's buying it is like just like
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saying on the cake, but um, but it's kind of
cool because then you just like, I guess my perspective
of success changed in that moment where it's like it's
not really about like all the kind of noise around you,
it's really about like what you know what you do
when you put your heart into Yeah, I know. I
think a lot of people don't know the backstory, you
know what I mean. They just like they see the
(11:57):
successes and they don't know the failures. And so I
think that's like so encouraging to hear because I think
a lot of the time, like people fail or like
go through slumps or you know what I mean, Like
they hit this wall and it's just a matter of
about like getting back up and like it will come
to firm because no one wants to like everybody wants
to see like the Instagram version of it, and like
usually it's like out or when people are talking about it.
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But it was so funny because I did some stuff
on like reels when I was developing it. But I
was just sit there and I was like, the truth
is it's like you're on Zoom meetings all the time.
Like that's not really fun to like don't want to
see that, Like, Okay, you're on zooms again. I'm like, yes,
Zoom every single day, multiple times a day as a founder.
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So it's like I think it's just like either people
just might think it's like kind of boring to look at,
but you know, the work is really hard and it's
like not the most cutest Instagram herble moments, but um,
I think it's important to kind of show that stuff
because it's not just like from zero to a hundred,
you know, it's like there's a lot of in between.
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I like what you said about um, there was no
fear in the fact that, like a lot of other
people were putting stuff out, because I always think like
when something's right, like when when you're doing something that's
in your path that's supposed to happen, there's not anxiety
or fear around it. Like there might be excitement, there
might be like, oh my gosh, I hope this does well,
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but there's never that like crushing feeling of like is
it gonna do well, that like fear and anxiety around it.
And I feel like that's such a great example because
the makeup thing, you felt that like literally it sent
you to the doctor. You're feeling it so heavy, like
it was like clearly going down a path I should not. Yeah,
And it's like so important to listen to those feelings
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because I think a lot of times again in our
head and we're like no, like that's nor mole to
feel that way, and I think like there is a
difference of feeling excited and nervous, like I hope everyone
likes this as much as I do, versus I'm literally
making myself sick from this. So I think that's like
a really important lesson and to know that, like, you
can try something and if it's not meant to be,
it's not going to happen, and you might consider it failure,
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But it doesn't mean there's not another path that's supposed
to happen. This bigger and better. Yeah, it doesn't mean
Because I could see being Frenchy expanding into makeup world.
I don't know if that's even a plan, but like
who knows, not not yet, especially like at the time
I was in makeup, it wasn't as like kind of oversaturated.
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I don't like to do things that everyone else is doing,
so I'm like, probably gonna stay away from makeup. But um,
but I do think that, you know, being Frenchy will
expand into other categories. I was gonna say, do you
see it going into like a home Caroline, Like what's
your Because when I think of being Frenchie, it's cozy,
like that feeling of just like come for closiness. Yeah, yes, um,
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I mean right now we obviously going are going to
expand with new moods and also extend some of the
existing products and moods UM because right now it's just
like the moods match, like basically the sensor um for
specific you know what what we have to I think
in the deep conditioner, but we might expand a couple
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more in the deep commisitor. So um, right now it's
expanding the line as is, but then also different moods.
But for sure there are a lot of stuff that
we have just you know in development. We can't share
it in the mind there in the mind. For for us,
it's like I love just having products that I know
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that are clean ingredients and that um our mood boosting,
and it's I mean, all of the sense are my
favorite because they're all based off of my candles. UM.
But the funny part is is Cashmere Vanilla is like
one of our top sellars and that's actually based off
of my love for cooking Trader Joe's Jasmine rice. It
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would smell my kitchen up and so it was like
the best, I mean it still is the best smell
and I basically was like, I have to capture this
for one of the sects, and they did. They actually,
like in the lab they somehow created this like bubble
around the jasmine rice and we added some a couple
of things in it. But it's so funny to see
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that like that is like the number one cent. Wow.
So it's all so good. Um, But I also want
to talk about um part of the power of partnership
because I feel like when I met you, I feel
like when I met you, you were dating your husband
at the time, or maybe you were married. I don't
really know the time, because you guys have been together
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for a while now yeah yeah, we've been married for
like eight years together like ten Yeah, but I don't
remember when I met him. I was like, this guy
is just the sweet, like he's the of this thing.
I've only met him, like I think once or twice,
but even through like your Instagram and stuff, I can
just be I just feel how like supportive and sweet
he is. And you obviously you had a baby, and
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like you're doing all of these things, and I feel
like there's so much in the power of partnership. So hey,
I don't really remember how you guys met, so I
wanted to talk about that and then like maybe the
partnership because I think it's important. Yeah. Well, long story
short is that we met through friends and I had
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known him for a long time before dating him. Um,
he had dated someone I knew, I had dated someone
he knew. And uh, turns out like I was kind
of in this like back and forth with in a
relationship that was just clearly like toxic and not great
for me. Um. And it wasn't until I finally was like, okay,
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this guy is just like I'm not gonna marry this
guy and this is like not right and I should
not be treated this way. And so I really close
was that door. But as I closed that door, Um,
I was seeing Chris at soul Cycle all the time,
and I was just like, oh, there's that guy. He's
so sweet, like he's such a nice guy and um.
And so I had had a psychic actually tell me
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one time at a reading years prior. She was like, um,
the guy are going to Mary is actually in your life.
And I was like, there's no one I want to
marry if this is not okay. But then I started
to like that he was a perfect example like he
was in my life, but I didn't really know him,
and I didn't think about that when she said that.
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I thought it was like someone that was actively like
in my life, and um, basically I would just seeing
a soul cycle. And then we would always like come
into each other on Instagram and Twitter, you know, shooting
a movie in Atlanta when I had really truly ended
my last relationship, and we he popped up on my Facebook.
We became Facebook friends, and then there was this like
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one night when I was back months later and we
were all hanging out in Santa Monica like my friends,
and I invited him, being like, you know what, he's
such a cool guy. I don't really know him and
I should just like maybe just like get to know
him because he's so sweet. But I didn't even remember
if he was like cute or not or any of that.
And so he came up to Santa Monica and I
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looked at him and I was like, oh my god,
he's so hot. It's like and basically we it was
like that night. I remember having a ping where I
looked at him too, like hours later, and I was like,
oh my god, this is the guy you're gonna marry
and I was like what And I was like, there's
no way, Like I've never felt that way. So I
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was just playing it cool. I was like, if anything,
I'm just gonna not gonna rush into this relationship because
if if he's the one, like I should, like, I
don't know, just like take it easy for a minute.
And so it's not like rushing into it. But he
clearly was like hanging out with me too, and then
like we started dating and eight months later we were engaged. Wow,
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So how long, like how long did y'all know each other?
Like how long was he someone that you knew before
y'all hung out that night in Santa Monica. I would say, uh,
it was like two, two or three years prior. They
had an invisible string string another another one for the
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stringing invisible string like the Taylor Swift song. Oh yes,
She's like, I don't have no idea what you're y Yeah. Actually,
that was one of the first times I actually met him,
not in cinematica like first met him. I did say
to him, oh my god, I feel like I know you.
I feel like we've met each other before. And he
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was like no. But I had this kind of like
weird feeling like I knew him, so I think we
have like been together in past lives. See, I feel
that way too, And I asked my girlfriend and she
felt that way and she was like no, and I
was like, thanks for shutting that and one down quick, Oh,
I don't want to talk about you have a baby.
(21:07):
And I'm curious how when because Tanya and I are
both like we love hearing stories about um like relationships
and babies, and like when y'all had the baby, was
there a shift in y'all's relationships. Babies there are a
lot of work. It's a lot more we assume there
are a lot of work. Yeah. Yes, literally today we're
(21:30):
in the back of a taxi and exhausted and I
was like had my hand and Chris and I just
like parenting is so hard. Um. It has for sure
shifted our relationship like we were um prior. I mean
we've been married for eight years and like hardly would
(21:50):
fight about anything, Like we never thought about stuff like
very little arguments in our relationship. We've never fought so
much after having the baby, because it's just it's a lot,
it's so much. It's not something that like I'm actually
developing something right now. I can't talk too much about it,
but I am developing something about our relationship and having
(22:11):
a baby, because it's like no one prepares you for that,
and it prepares you for the baby to come, like
you have a doula that like it's like this is
what's gonna happen when you're in labor, and then you
have like books that tell you what happens but the baby,
but no one literally tells you like get ready. Your
relationship is going to be a roller coaster. It's like
it's just like at first you feel so alone because also,
(22:33):
like I know people who are moms, they never told
me either. It was like the secret that no one
wants to talk about. And I'm just like, let's just
be honest about this stuff because then people when it
feels so alone in it, but it is, it's just
like it does shift because you know, like compared to before,
like we're very independent people, me and Chris, so it's
just like we would have each other and then we
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also have like our work and do our own thing,
and now we have like this little baby that we're
we're trying to balance it all and it's very hard
to do that, but we're also like she's number one priority,
so it's like it kind of pushes us off to
like we come in second you our relationships. So it's
just one of those things where you have to actively
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make sure that you're like taking the time and also
like just coming together as a team. Sometimes it feels
like you're off on the different pages when parenting and
like with the baby, you just like I might have
a different thing where I'm like, oh, I think she can,
you know, watch her little iPad, and no, she should
(23:39):
not be watching the I pad right now. So it's
just those things that like haven't really ever come up.
But I think the perfect way to speak about it
is like everyone has flaws and you kind of know
those flaws when you get into relationship, but they just
might not bother you. When you have a child, those
flaws start to bother you. There's that one flaw. I'm
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so curious, like what what like what like what's something
that you knew about that You're like, whatever, it's fine,
but that has like stood out now having a baby. Say,
in the past, I get ready really fast, and Chris
would take some time getting ready to like go to
lunch or go to breakfast, like he just kind of
takes his time doing things. And I think that before
(24:21):
I was just like whatever, you know, like it's fine,
I'll just like wait and like I kind of I
get angry, so I'm Mike, I'll just wait, let's go
to lunch. Come on, dude, like I'll grab a snack.
But now it's like, Okay, I got myself ready, I
got the baby ready, and we're still waiting on you,
like come on, Like he just like once on a weekend.
It's just like Chris. It's very present. He likes to
take his time doing everything. So it's just like that
(24:44):
stuff where you're like, so my boyfriend has two kids,
(25:04):
and um we I didn't meet the kids for like
a year into dating. And it's so when I look
at how our relationship was prior to me meeting the
kids versus now, like now it's been two years that
I've known the kids, so it's like a whole you know,
it's like a whole different thing. But it did totally
shift our relationship and I feel and not in a
bad way, but it's different. And I can't even imagine
(25:25):
what it's like having like a newborn because his kids
are older, they're like, you know, so they can get older.
I feel like it's probably a little bit easier, but
it's like it's kind of just like that the stakes
are very high. You're just trying to like, you know,
keep this whole thing alive. You're like, don't know what
you're doing. This is the first time. You're just like
this is so crazy, and you're just trying to do everything.
(25:47):
And we're both like so in love with her, so
we're like those parents were breakfast. It's she's got like
that only child syndrome. Right now. She's just like sits
there and she'll have like I'll be holding her hand,
he's holding her foot and she's just like eating her
foot and we're just like sitting there her supporting her.
And I'm like, Chris Christin, you look at each other.
We're like this one. She she's like this is she's
(26:09):
the only child. She's like she just this is the
first child. Girls like bless her future husband. You know.
I literally said Rocks, like, girl, you have some high standards.
You hopefully will find someone like your dad because this
is crazy. No, I think it's really I think it's
really interesting because you're right I don't think people. I
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think there's like it's the same thing how I see
it as when people talk about um like postpartum and
like depression, like what they go through. And the more
people have talked about it, the more people have come
out and been like, oh me two, I've went through that.
And I think it's starting the conversation of like because
I think there's this expectation of when you have kids
that you're going to be like more in love with
(26:53):
each other than ever, and I imagine it does bring
a sense of like a new kind of love seeing
your partner as a parent, you know, but no one
really talks about the other part of like we're exhausted.
This is really hard. I remember having that moment with
Chris and he was just like right after Jupiter rose born,
he was just like, I have never been so happy
(27:14):
with my wife, like I love you, and he was like,
just so, we're so so happy. But then it's like
you're in this honeymoon phase of it where she's just
like you just sleep and eat and it's just like
so easy. And then it's like, you know, if you
come out of it, because you're just now it's like
then they're crawling, and then you're do they're doing this,
and now you're doing solids, and it's just like so
(27:35):
many things that you're just trying to learn along the
way as well, and you're just it's just a lot.
It's a lot, and um, I think that, yeah, it's
it is you are. There are things about it that
you're like, of course, like when I see him with
my daughter, I'm like, Chris is the best at and
he's so amazing with her and so it makes me
obviously fall in love with him even more. Um, but
(27:58):
it's just like also there's just as times where it's
just like it's hard, you know, it's and it's hard work,
and um, yeah, having a kid is not so easy,
but like I feel like you do it so gracefully,
Like how do you compartmentalize? Like I feel like like
I can't even I don't even want to know what
it's going to be like for me because I can
(28:18):
barely leave my puppies side, Like I think about when
I'm away for too many hours, I actually think about
her and like this is a dog I didn't even birth.
This thing still obsets with our dogs, Like I'm we're
like in New York City and we have our baby
here and I'm like, I miss her dos, which I
love about you, by the way. Um, I think it's
just like such a balancing act. Someone told me once
(28:41):
that they're like, you know, you're there's going to be
those moments in life where you're like really heavy with work,
and then there's gonna be moments in life where you're
like you're killing it as a mom and that's okay.
You know, there's gonna be times where you know, like
I don't get to spend as much time with her
during the day because I'm working. Um, but it uh,
and so there's this mom guilt that is like completely
(29:04):
like something you always go through. But at the end
of the day, then there's like, you know, a good
amount of time where I'm like, cool, I have a
day off and like I could to just like hang
out with her and like do things with her and
make it her day. And so it is like a
tough balancing act, but um, I love also having her
be a part of the stuff that I do. And
I've just been really blessed because a lot of my
(29:26):
work so far has been working from home. Like I
was developing this line at home, like developing a wellness line.
You guys, It's like it's like this say is I
can't believe this is my job. Like I sat there
with all these some formulas, just being in a bath
every single day, just like completely bringing all these rituals,
creating the rituals and um, and so I always got
(29:49):
to feear like every day like a lot of people
don't get to do that. So I've been really blessed
with that. But you just kind of I don't think
you're ever going I don't think you'll ever be like, yeah,
I'm really like killing it as a mom and doing
all this stuff, and I'm like so good at it.
Like I think you're always gonna feel like you could
be doing better. But it's it's just been present, you know,
(30:11):
Like that's the biggest thing. It's like, when I'm really
present with you do is when I'm feel the best.
When I feel like I'm juggling a couple of things
and I'm with her, that doesn't make me feel so great.
So I try to be like very present when I'm
with her. I feel like you've done a really good
job because you're you have a good group of friends
who are also in the industry, which is a very
(30:31):
um niche industry to be a part of, you know.
And also I feel like it's like, yeah, I mean
always a really big city tecalice level. But um, I
feel like a lot of them have like are becoming
moms or our moms too. Has it been fun to
(30:53):
have like people who understand like a very specific part
of your work and also being a mom and balance
sing it. Yeah, I mean I have like a group
of moms that, um that the kids are all in
it like Sunday like gym class together. At first it
was music class and now it's gym class, And I'm
so grateful for them because there was so cool about
(31:16):
them is they're all like these like kick ass moms
that work and like they all do something different from
what I do, but they work really hard and they're
like constantly like you know, kind of out there and
killing it but also feeling the same way I'm feeling.
So I feel not so alone all the time. Um.
And also like the dad's kind of like are taking
(31:38):
on more of the kind of at home with the kids,
which is very different. But then it's kind of cool
because like Chris has friends that you know are doing
that too, and so it's almost like it's like obviously
not as traditional as it used to be. It's so
different now. But I think that that's what's really cool
is that you just like have a lot of people
in your life that maybe you can feel the same
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way of like no matter what they do, they feel
the same way of like what you go through and um,
that kind of you know, like right now, studios in
a phase where all she wants to do is be
with daddy because you know, Chris is with her a
lot and um, and so I'm just like, I just
birthed you and got you in my stomach for nine months.
(32:22):
My stomach has never been the same since. But sure,
just be with your dad all the time. It's like, okay, fine,
he's your favorite. But it's just the phase, they say,
and the community of women around you that are always
lifting you up. I agree. I'm trying to. I try
to convince all my friends and like, when it's time
(32:42):
to have babies, we gotta do this together. Yeah. Yeah,
I think we're on the different timeline, different timelines, but
it's fine. She'll come to the other side. Yeah, maybe, um,
do you have any I mean You're from such a
massive franchise High School Musical, and it's just like, what's
(33:02):
been really cool watching your careers how what Tanya said earlier,
You've been able to pivot and do so many other
things beyond like your time at Disney. Do you ever
feel like an it to like return and do like
a reunion or anything like that, or do you feel
like that's behind you and you're looking forward. I think
(33:25):
I think it's behind me, um, only because I feel like,
you know, we've got we always get asked that question.
And the thing about I was watching actually um Chris
put on High School Musical to show that she put
her and I was like, oh my god, Um, and
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I was watching myself and I was just like, gosh,
it was so long ago, and sure, Pay, I've just
changed as a person so much when I played her,
and I was very unaware of myself at that time
in my life. If and I felt like that really
was like a lot of what Sharpay was. And so
I just don't feel like I could ever, you know,
(34:09):
really fulfill her shoes in any way now, you know,
like I would. I don't think I would be doing
a good job at that. And I really think sometimes
a classics should stay a classic, and like I wouldn't
want to tarnish what everyone thinks of Sharpey, but I
also just feel like I feel with Frenchy and being Frenchy,
(34:30):
like finally, um, people are getting to know me for me,
like personally, and I am excited on this next chapter
of where they get to know me more versus playing
like a character they know or thinking of like a character,
and so I am kind of just more looking ahead.
I love that. I mean, I agree, I think classics
(34:53):
should stay a classic and I might go home and
one done right now, one done right, one done right.
It can be like amazing, but it's few and far between.
So I'm with you on the like keeping it like
you know, keeping it on the high that it was
because and who knows, like maybe in ten years you'll
be like cool, like that would be fun to do,
(35:13):
like a resurgen. But I think like what you're doing
now and and your awareness of yourself and like what
you want and being a mom and a wife and
a businesswoman and creating this wellness line and expanding it
is really really cool and it's I think people who
know you from that series and like in following your
journey now is like really empowering for people to see
(35:34):
like you can just keep going, you can keep like
elevating yourself. Yeah, that's true. We are big Ashley Tuesdale fans.
So anytime you have more products um for being Frenchy,
please come back and scrubbing. Yeah, and please send them.
But like, honestly, I really, like I said, I said
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it before, and I really just want you to know, like,
and I don't think you even realize how many people
are in firing as you're going along your own journey,
but like you always are constant inspiration for me, and
I just admire so much about what you do and
who you are. So take that with you. If you're
having a bad day, you can think about that. Put
that in your back pocket. The best. Well, thanks for
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taking time to scrub in again, and congratulations on everything.
We're obviously big fans of you and everyone go shop
and buy everything from Target that you can find because
it's incredible. Um, and where can everyone follow you? And
is there like any specifically TikTok Instagram, being Frenchy Instagram
(36:47):
as well, But everything is just Ashley Tisdale and being
French cheese on TikTok as well, um French she uh.
Those are the places where I'm at. I actually do
like if you comment or DM on Frenchie's So Funny,
Like I I actually have more communication with people on
the French e um d m s because they asked
(37:09):
like interesting questions about mental health and stuff and I
love that stuff so um so yeah, I always reach out.
All right, if you want to hear from Ashley Tisdale,
go on the French Friend. You're about to get inundated
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