A Courthouse Cakewalk with Serena Pitt

Dean may have found his dream wedding venue after talking with Serena Pitt about her courthouse marriage to Grocery Store Joe. 

Serena shares all the wedding advice with Dean and Caelynn, but Dean only seems interested in his beloved ice cream wedding cake. 

Plus, will Dean have a mustache on his big day??

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hell, we suck at being newlyweds? Kylen miller Key and
Jared Haven an iHeartRadio podcast. What's going on? Everyone, Welcome
to an all new episode of Help We Suck at
Being Newlyweds. It's a new week, it's a new episode,
and Kaylyn, we still suck at being fiances? That really

(00:23):
float off your tongue. Well that was the first time. Yeah,
in Joe, I've been practicing all morning for the past
three minutes, just in my head, running cycles through and
making sure I was prepared for the podcast today. Um,
We've got a great episode for you guys today. Jared's
not here, so you know it's going to be a
good one. Kaylyn, why don't you tell the listeners who
are guest it's going to be this week? Oh, I'm
so excited. Today we have Serena Pitt and she is

(00:45):
just the sweetest person ever. She is wonderful, also engaged
to Joe. Also met her fiance on Bachelor and Paradise,
so we have a lot to chat about. How do
you know she's the sweetest person her We went to
Mexico together. You said that about Marie and Kenny too,
as if I was like forgetting a fact that we
hung out with all of them, Serena, I went to

(01:06):
Mexico together, different from Paradise. I see. I thought you
were saying only from knowing her at Paradise you decided
that she's the swetest person here. No, we've traveled together. Okay,
well that's great. Then I definitely concede to your knowledge.
You know more than I do she's a swetest person ever.
I thought you were saying just from the time that
we spent with her on Paradise and she was very sweet,
But I don't think that's enough time to make the

(01:26):
distinction that she's the sweetest person ever. Correct. That's why
that's not what I always said, And I understand. I
don't even know why I'm still talking about it, to
be honest. Let's bring Serena. Yeah, let's get Serena pitt
in here. Huh. Serena, Welcome to the podcast. We're so
happy to have you here. I don't even know like
we introduced you before you got on. We didn't really
do a proper segue into having you co host with
us today. So for the listeners out there, you obviously

(01:48):
know Serena. She was from Bachelor in Paradise, I want
to say season seven, Yeah, no, season eight, seventh, season
seven seven? I think no, no, no no, no, it was eight.
It was oh yeah, no it seven because the last
film was eight, right it was. I was for some
reason thinking that Ashley and Jared got engaged on season seven,

(02:10):
but no, that was season five, so yeah, because that
was Joe's first season, right right, because they need to
start titling the seasons. It's easier with Bachelor Batchel Rat
because you're like, oh, like Matt James's season, But with Paradise,
they need to start giving them like a creative title
so people can identify. If you could name your season
in Paradise, what would you name it? Oh, gosh, I

(02:32):
don't know, um, dumpster fire. Then I got engaged. What
would you name ours? Yeah, baster and Paradise chow. I mean,
but I feel like every season is it's never like yeah,
it's never like beautiful aways exactly. It's never what you
think it's going to be. Well, I think every season

(02:54):
has one defining moment, so I think you just have
to think about what the defining moment is. In the
name of years, every season has tears where they could
like create a theme within every season, right, that's true.
Bachelor in Paradise eighties edition, and then you just show up,
We're in eighties closed the whole time someone did that?
Was that your season? Yeah, we did like an eighties
prom theme. Yeah, they like brought us a bunch of

(03:16):
like eighties clothes. That's so fun. But then they could
make like the whole overarching theme as well, like everyone
stays in eighties the whole time. Eighties swimsuits that would
be re intros would be eighties themed, the food would
be eighties themes. You can't really, Yeah, that was so hard.
You think Kitlan has a lot of clothes, Now, imagine

(03:36):
you had to go to show that was eighties theme
for a whole month. She get a whole new wardrobe.
I mean, well, I was in Paradise. I just wore
the same shirt and swim trunks every single day. Did Joe?
He packed half a suit case. You're allowed to bring
two full ones, right in a small one. He brought
one half packed suit case of T shirts and shorts.
Oh my gosh. That's I think. Say, men's stay doing

(03:57):
the least, right, we stay doing Men's Day. Even when
I was on Bachelorette, I brought a Duffel bag and
that was all I brought. And there were guys on
my season that I brought like three checked bags with
like the vacuum technology that would like shrink yourself. Yeah.
I actually tried that out when I was going on
the show, but I felt like I could like squeeze
a lot more in. I get. The theory is it's

(04:20):
just funny to see grown men. I mean, I guess
you know, it's it's weird to say a lot, but
it was just funny to see grown men putting that
much effort into their clothes. I don't know why. I
just thought it was kind of silly. Well, you also
grew up in a mountain town where people don't care.
Typically you also showed up with the Duffel bags, like
they could say the same about you. That's one percent true,
That's very true. All right, So season seven, Serena, welcome

(04:43):
you famously. Well it's not what made you famous, obviously,
but you and Joe are famously now married if I
remember correctly. So you guys got married. We did, But
you can you explain this all to me? Because I
saw the Instagram post. But it looked like it was
just like an intimate thing versus like a full on
wedding ceremony, which I think as they're still planning on having, right. Yeah. Yeah,

(05:04):
So we got into the wedding planning process, like we started,
we picked a wedding planner and kind of started looking
at venues, and we just didn't want to wait the
whole year to get married. We thought it'd be fun
to kick off the wedding process with an actual wedding.
And also, we just had so much like extravagance and

(05:27):
publicity around our relationship, Like we thought it'd be really
cool to do something just super kind of untraditional and intimate.
I mean, nothing about our relationship has been traditional to
this point anyway, so like why start now. So we
kind of looked into getting married at the courthouse. We
have some friends here that did it during the pandemic.
And you can't like wake up and just like show
up at the courthouse and get married, Like it's not
like Vegas. You have to kind of like put in

(05:49):
the paperwork and you do a call with them. And
it was about a three week process from the time
we first submitted the application to our actual courthouse appointment,
so we were allowed to bring one witness, so we
brought Natasha Parker from our season and she was our witness.
She like signed the form and then you go into
this room and like we didn't really know what we

(06:09):
were getting ourselves into. We were just like, yeah, like
we go, we'll sign some documents and we'll be married.
But they make you like I mean, like if you
saw the video, like we had to like they're like
stand hold each other's hands. Um, So it was very
surreal and like actually so emotional because you're like saying
your vows and I don't know, it was like eight
forty five in the morning on like a weekday, Like
we didn't really like you could see how we're dressed.

(06:30):
Were like, yeah, I was thirty dollars. It was so cheap,
Like I don't know, like after we did it, really
do we still want to do a whole wedding, Like
it's going to be so much more. This was like
the cheapest thing ever. But yeah, it was great. Honestly.
We went and we had like breakfast after and then
my parents flew in that night to take us for dinner,
which was fun. Um, we got to like surprise all

(06:51):
of our friends, like we just got married. Who I
have so many questions? Yeah, go ahead, this sounds like
my dream and too late. It's too late. Okay. So
my first question is you said it was thirty bucks. Well, actually,
like I said, I've got a million questions. Let me
start with the first one that came into my head
when you were talking. So you said it took three
weeks from planning it to doing it, leading up to

(07:15):
those leading up to that day those three weeks, were
you like, was there any weird feeling in the air,
not like weird but like bad decision weird, But like
were you getting excited? Were you getting nervous? Like what
was kind of going through your head? I don't know.
I don't think it really like hit us that we
were doing it until the night before, like we talked
about it enough and like we knew we were getting married,

(07:37):
Like I didn't have that like oh my god, what
are we doing? Like should we wait? Feeling like we
were very much like, yeah, we're getting me, this is great. Whatever.
And then the night before I remember us blaying and
bad looking at each other and being like, oh my god,
we're getting married tomorrow. That's insane. Because I feel like
when you do a whole wedding, you have like almost
a whole year leading up to that moment, like wrap

(07:59):
it around your head that like, Okay, I'm getting married.
I'm getting married, Like it's really like drilled into your
head for a whole year, right, like all of these
decisions are being made for us. It was like twenty
minutes on the laptop to book an appointment and then
we had like a zoom call and like in between that,
like we weren't really thinking about it, and the night
before we were like wow, And then even the morning

(08:20):
of we just kept looking each other thing, I cannot
believe we're about to go get married right now, Like
this is insane, But we were so excited. Like it was.
It was very easy and it was just fun. And yeah,
when it came to the vows and stuff, was it
did you guys prepare vows like leading like every day
leading up to it in the sense where it was

(08:40):
what your real vows would have been at your real
get a big blowout wedding or was it more of
just like an off the cuff kind of spontaneous thing.
So when we went, we didn't realize that we were
going to have to like stand at the podium and
like even like say vows to each other. We thought
it was going to be because like I've only been
to like one wedding, and I remember at my cousin's wedding,
like they sat down at a table and basically signed
their marriage sins, and I just thought that that was

(09:01):
going to be the whole process of the courthouse. I
didn't realize they were going to have like someone they're
marrying us essentially, which I guess I should have. I
just didn't know. So we didn't have anything prepared. Like
we were even shocked by that part of it. So
we were basically just repeating what they were saying to
us back to each other, which is very short. It's
just like do you take Joe to be your husband? Essentially,

(09:23):
And for our wedding, I think we will prepare like
vows because we're still going to have a full wedding.
So for that reason, because we're already married, we then
want to kind of say something a little more personalized. Gotcha,
And I kind of answered my last question, well not
my last, but another big question I had was because
you guys already had the wedding per se. I would

(09:43):
imagine you could save so much money by having a
party that looks like a wedding but not calling it
a wedding. And since you're not saying the word wedding,
you're going to save you fifty on all of the
expenses and everything. Yeah, yeah, we've been we've been learning
that too, that the minute you tell any venue or
vendor that you're having a wedding, the prices are so

(10:04):
much more expensive than if you're just like, yeah, we're
just throwing a party, which is crazy to me, and
like just the cost overall of weddings, Like for the
first few months we were kind of like what are
we doing, Like we're already married. It was thirty dollars,
Like we could just have some like intimate dinner with
our family and friends or like throw a reception or

(10:25):
I don't know, like this money could literally go to
a home that we're spending on this wedding. Like it's
really jarring finding out how expensive weddings are. But with
that being said, I'm not someone that like grew up
dreaming of my wedding, but at the same time, like
I still want that experience, Like you only get it
once in your life, like I want to walk down
the aisle, like I want to wear a white dress,

(10:47):
and like if we don't do it now, we're never
gonna do it. Like I don't think I'll ever look
back and like I might be like, wow, that was
a lot of money, But I don't think I'll ever
look back and like regret doing it. But like I
would be scared that I would look back and be
like wow, like I missed out on something in my
life that like would have been this like huge celebration
of like Joe and my relationship. And like we do

(11:11):
like have our family and friends like all over the place,
like Minor in Toronto and his or in Chicago. So
like for us, it's important to have like that coming
together of everyone because it's not like we're gonna have
that like for a lot of events in our lives,
Like it's not like gonna be like Sunday dinners with
our parents together necessarily. So being able to have like
everyone come together in one place is kind of like

(11:32):
what the like big driving force was for us to
kind of do the wedding. I love that. Are you
gonna do like a bachelortte bridle shower all of that.
I mean, I do a bachelort. I just booked to
my bachelort actually, like two days ago. We're gonna go
to Vegas. I've never been, so I'm excited. The best
place ever. Yeah. Oh yeah, you guys live there, don't

(11:52):
you know. Yeah, so that'll be fun. And then I
don't know if I'm gonna do a bridle shower or not.
I'm still kind of up in the air. My like
really close family friend has offered to throw me one
if I want it. It's just a matter of like
it would kind of just be like the same people
going on my bachelorette and then like my family because

(12:14):
and like obviously Joe's family would be invited, but like
they live in Chicago, Like if they all lived in
the same place, they feel like it would be or
if like they were all able to come, like it'd
be really special to have like everyone in one room.
But I don't know, I don't, like I already feel
a little weird about the bachelorette. Like having an event
that surrendered around me, where like I feel a sense
of responsibility for everyone to have a good time makes

(12:38):
me really anxious and a little uncomfortable at least, like
with the wedding, it's shared with Joe, so we'll see.
I'm up in the air on the bridal shower. Yeah,
I was gonna say how your engagement party was, because
he is the same way and he had fun at
the engagement party, but yeah, he doesn't love the pressure.
Well it's a pressure. Yeah, I like how you said

(13:00):
it too. At those things, at those shared events, you
share the burden of attention, I guess. But then at
your bachelor at part of your bachelor party, your bridle shower,
whatever it is, it's just you. But also on the
other side of it too, it's like those people that
are going to that are like your closest friends, So
maybe it's less of a pressure because you know, you
know and love those people. So we're in the process

(13:21):
right now. Well, I guess I'm in the process of
planning my bachelor party and she's already got hers plan
but um, yeah, that's not for a few more months. Anyway,
where are you going. I'm going to San Diego. Just
making it easy for everyone, and I'm I don't know
if you're having someone planned your bachelorette but they have
made it so easy. I'm using Batch to Basic and
they just sent me like the whole itinerary and they

(13:41):
send everyone like payment reminders, So oh my god, that's amazing.
I was actually looking at one I think it's called
I'm in Miami Batch or something like that, and I
was if I went to Miami, like they would have
been great. But I think because we're one of Vegas,
like we're partnering with the hotel like the Venetian, so

(14:01):
I feel like a lot of activities will take place
at the resort essentially. But if I was to do
it somewhere like Miami or Arizona like something like that,
where I'm like booking dinners, I feel like having someone
planet for you is so helpful. Yes, that's a nice
thing about Vegas. Yeah, it's very very concentrated in the area.
You can just kind of like not really even leave

(14:22):
the Venetian if you don't want to. Yeah, I feel
like it's like an all inclusive resort, but everything's really
expensive and it's exactive all inclusive minus the inclusivity, and
the prices are super high. Yeah, mine's gonna be in
Jackson and that's gonna be similar, Like we're the only
real lodging you can book is like hotel rooms. And
I don't have like a best man or anything like that.

(14:45):
But there's gonna be like fourteen people at my bachelor party,
and so it's just like a big, big burden to
schedule that for everyone, especially when I am awful at planning.
So yeah, yeah, I message my girlfriends and was like,
we're doing a destination wedding, so like, if this there's
a lot to ask, like, don't feel pressured to come,
but like I'm trying to just think of it like
a big girls trap versus like a batchelat party. But

(15:06):
then obviously my girlfriends are like, we want the balloons,
we want the dick straws, we want it all. Like
all right, well then you can bring it. I'm not
packing that in my suitcase. Right. Where's the wedding. Um,
it's in Charleston, South Carolina. Oh beautiful? Yeah that like
an old cigar factory. It's like an industrial kind of venue. Nice.
You always talk about Charleston, don't you. Yeah? I love

(15:28):
it there have you guys been? Yeah? I used to
live in North Carolina, so I was like four hours
from there. I think, oh nice would go whenever I could. Yeah,
it's really the South, so he'll never go. I hate it.
I've never had a positive experience down there, but I've
also just never really traveled down there. So I mean,
look like if you had asked me if I was
going to get married in the South, like I definitely

(15:48):
would have said no. How I didn't think I would
yet on that we just wanted we wanted a destination wedding,
but we want it in the US. So we kind
of told our planner, like just research a bunch of
different like weekend getaway cities that are going to be
accessible for people from Toronto Chicago and also just fun

(16:09):
like our friends want to go. They want to like
day drink and party, and we just want if we're
going to make people travel like, we want it to
feel enjoyable for them where they're going and easy as
much as possible. So we were looking at Austin, Texas,
We're looking at Charleston, we were looking at Nashville, which
we're kind of like all big like wedding cities, like

(16:30):
Nash's got like a million venues, and then just our
favorite venue is Charleston. And I spent some time in
Hilton head South Carolina, So I'd been there like two
or three times before, and just we thought it would
be a good fit. And then when we went and
checked out the venue, we're like, yeah, this is great.
We love it so kind of like random, like we
have we have no personal ties to this place, but
it'll be cool, like we'll develop a personal tie to

(16:52):
it because it'll be where we got married. Yeah. Yeah,
and as the Guy Factory is pretty cool. That's funny
too because ours, yours is in a neutral location, so
it's like Joe's family and your family and your friends
are all having to go to this random place, and
then ours is where I basically grew up. So I
feel guilty because it's like, Okay, I'm familiar with the area,
a lot of my friends live close by. But then
Kaylin's family and friends all have to go out there

(17:14):
for the first time. So it's like no one's complaining
about going to Aspen. Everyone's I was going to say,
like that's a pretty nice place to go to, right yeah,
And I would say only like fifteen percent of the
wedding are actually currently living in Basalter Aspen, maybe less,
And that's true. It just does feel I don't know,
like a neutral site would have made me. Not that
I've actually felt this way until just now, but a

(17:35):
neutral site, you know, kind of makes sense that way.
No one is like, I mean, we did our engagement
party in Toronto, if that makes you feel better, So
we did make everyone travel there for that. But how
involved is Joe and the wedding planning stuff? He's very involved.
He's very involved. Oh yeah, yeah, I honestly like would
be nervous make a decision without checking with him first,

(17:55):
not that he doesn't trust my decision making, but like
he is very opinion did just as in general as
a person. Um. But I like it, Like I like
that he cares what like the save the dates look
like and stuff like that, Like he helped me like
pick our tasting menu, like all the cake flavors, like
all the venues. Like it's been very fifty fifty. I'm
a little bit more involved in like the administrative stuff

(18:18):
of like going back and forth with the planner and
like all of that. But that's just more of my strength.
But yeah, he's he's all up in it. Becaus made

(18:39):
any like weird decisions, like unique, quirky type of decisions,
that's a good question, I don't think so. What would
you define as a quirky decision for a wedding? Well,
I really want to have ice cream cake instead of
wedding cake and our wedding. You're about to say something else.
I really also wants a lot of ideas. I really
want to wear a penguin tuxedo. Okay, it's surprised, I

(19:00):
really wanna Can I say it? No? Okay, I really
want to a special musical act while Kayleen walks down
the aisle. Joe's had you know what, Joe had a
lot of these. He's come to me with a lot
of music suggestions. Um, he was watching Triangle of Sadness
the other day and like loved it, so all of
a sudden, I'm getting all these songs that I should

(19:20):
be walking down the aisle too. I'm like, what am
I listening to this? Like instrumental rock man? Like, oh,
I can't walk down the aisle to this. And then
he has sent me some like outfit the ideas that
were vetoed. But we are doing ice cream sandwiches, I
think because it's like his favorite dessert. Um, and we're
gonna do like a dessert bar, and his one thing
was he was like, I want cookies and ice cream.

(19:41):
I think we can make that happen. What a what
a gracious person you ad to let him have that
at his work? He wants an ice cream cake. I
don't know what the logistics of, Like I was gonna say,
an ice cream cake. You might need like a freezer
for that. I just want to bask and Robbins mint
chocolate chip ice cream cake that's three feet high and
past four tears on it. I don't think that's happened really.

(20:02):
Specifics can deliver on that. They can find a way.
There's it's twenty twenty three. There's ways for you know,
anything to happen these days. Anything. Um, do you have
your dress yet? I do. I have my wedding dress,
which I'm excited about, but I'm still searching for, like

(20:23):
I want to do a second dress. So I kind
of like rushed into buying my first dress, like not
that I don't love it, but I very much like
went to like two stores and like picked the first
one that I like loved and was like, yeah, I'm done.
And then I don't know if you felt this at all,
Like I have dress panic every day, like my feet
is just covered in dresses, and I'm like, I love
everything so much. Did ivery third decision? And then some

(20:45):
just I'll call my like I hate my dress and
she's like, no, you don't, you love it, Like go
back to doing what you're doing, Like you're overthinking it.
But I feel there's just like so much pressure on it.
Maybe that's just me putting pressure on it. I don't know. No,
I think like pinterest in and Instagram get more difficult too,
because you're just being flooded with all these other options.
I felt that way immediately after I said yes to

(21:06):
the two dresses, and then I started to panic. But
I'm really happy with it. But I don't know. There's days.
There are days where you're like, shoot, did I yet
like eight months in advance right, And it's like I
feel like I've done so much more research now than
before I went dress shopping. So I'm trying to like
take my time with the second dress and then like

(21:27):
balance out the things that I feel like maybe like
I don't have in the first dress so that I
kind of have everything that I would want. And then
I'm just gonna block everything off of Instagram and Pinterest
that our wedding dress in suppose I know, follow every
account literally like by restrict mute, don't don't show my exploreage.

(21:49):
Have you had your first dress fitting yet? Because we're
I think we're only like two weeks apart our weddings.
Yeah we are, because I know um Wells Wells actually
messages and I was like, okay, we're all the clear,
Like right you think like there was like uncertainty if
like we were going to have crossover. Um, but we're
we're beginning of September and I think you guys are
middle right. Yeah. I haven't have my dress fitting yet,

(22:11):
but it hasn't come in yet hopefully like next month
or the month after. Yeah. Because I just went back
um and got they like, let me try it on again.
So I was okay because I was like, I think
I want a different veil. Literally okay, So I went
back and tried it on again. Are you gonna have
a veil? I guess I shouldn't know that, should I?
You shouldn't. Joe, he's asking to see my dress. Have

(22:32):
you been same? Oh? Yeah, He's like just show me,
let me see it. What No, I will not show him.
I've showed like everyone. Everyone's like, oh, did you pick
out your dress? And like showing everyone Because I'm the same,
people say like, don't show my anyone, and I'm like
literally like offering people to see my dress, Oh, do
you want to see it? They're not even asking, like
a baby, I'm like please. Yeah, it's funny you mentioned

(22:54):
the Welles thing Wells at our engagement party. Uh he was.
He brought that up too. He's like, I don't know
if I can make it to your wedding. You know,
Joe and Serena are getting married in September sometime too,
and this is like before I think either of us
had dates. And I was like dogging him so hard
on it because I missed his bachelor party and his wedding.
And I was like, dude, oh yeah, so mad, It's okay.
I missed his wedding too. Yeah, Joe wet and I

(23:18):
had COVID I couldn't go, so I had a very
valid excuse. But I was in Pakistan too, but I
was like getting so mad. I was like, well, as
you have to be there. If you're not there, I'm
gonna be so sad. And he goes, what are you
talking about like you missed my wedding, now that he
would do that to get even with me, But I
still I realized how how much you would be sad
if one of your good friends missed your wedding. You know,

(23:39):
it's like kind of a big deal. I feel like
in the moment, you're like, there's gonna be one hundred
and fifty people there, like you're not even gonna notice
I'm not there. But then when it's your wedding, you're like, oh,
I guess I like actually do even just seeing their
faces like mean something. Yeah, that's been the biggest surprise
to me. We've gotten like two nos, and one of
them I was pretty offended because I was like, this
makes zero sense that you're not going to come for

(24:01):
this reason. But I thought the same thing going to weddings,
like there's gonna be so many people, I'm not going
to be missed, but people do care. Yeah. Yeah, it's
like you take it for I feel like I'll take
it even there's people that like I know probably won't
come or we invite it being like they probably won't
be able to make it. But I still feel like
you have like a twinge of like I'm a little
sad that you're not coming to my wedding, even though

(24:22):
like I didn't think you were going to come, right,
I know, we felt that for our engagement party a
little bit, like there were certain people who couldn't come,
and I was like, we still had ninety people there,
but I was like, oh, it's sad, jeez, I needs
a lot. How big is a wedding going to be? Well,
Joe has a very large Italian family, so I think
our guest list for just his immediate family is like

(24:42):
sixty five people maybe more, maybe closer to seventy. Yeah,
we go, yeah, so like we're not there was no
small wedding option for us. Yeah, like that is a
small wedding. Actually, just his immediate family is well be
considered a small to medium sized wedding. But I think
our guest list is like one eighty five right now.

(25:03):
But like we know we're having a destination wedding, so
we know that'll like kind of impact the RSVPs. We
had like the toughest to this day, are having like
the toughest time with the guest list on like where
to cut it off, Like, yeah, I don't know, I
didn't expect to have such a hard time. But oh yeah,
in my head, I'm like, oh, everyone I've ever talked
to can come to my wedding. Oh my gosh. She

(25:25):
keeps adding people. And we have a very specific venue,
like people are going to be on the property the
entire time, so we can only fit so many people.
And Dean's like, no, my golf buddy's got to come.
Well he doesn't, He's got yes. And that This is
the issue that we've recently been faced with is when
I look at the list of people attending the wedding

(25:47):
and I'll see someone that Kalin's known for eight months
and I'm like, oh, but I've known this guy for
three years and I see him every single week. He's
got to come to the wedding. I'm like, I say
it on the past, I'll tell you afterwards. But it's
like when I start, when I start sizing up, like
you know, a to A or Apple's Apples or whatever,
I'm like, oh, well, then this person has to at
least get an invite you. I don't know. It is

(26:08):
definitely a challenge, especially with our venue is like very strict.
It's like ninety five people, very strict. The nice thing
about us in our situation. I guess nice is a
loose Leu's term is we only have our very immediate
close family that we're close with, and we don't have
like a big familial guest list. Like between the two
of us, there's like fourteen family members, right, Yeah, I'd

(26:29):
say that's about right. So that's nice. So I kind
of it's like mostly friends and it doesn't there's no
like expectation where you know, Kaylin's family list is going
to be huge and the mind is small or vice versa.
So it kind of like relieves some pressure on us
that way, I guess. But yeah, do you have a
big family? Not really, Um, I'm trying to think, Like
I think my like family guest list is like twenty people,

(26:51):
Like that's including both my mom and dad's like siblings
and my cousins and grandparents and stuff. So like compared
to Joe's, like it's small, but yeah, that's all good.
Should I invite my aunts to the wedding? It's too late.
I got at least send an invite. It's one of
those things where it's like, oh, you're graduating high school,
send out invitations and then that way they know that

(27:12):
they're included even though you know they're not going to
make it, and then maybe listen to you a gift too. Yeah,
you get the credit for the invite. Yeah, it's like, oh,
at least we got invited, but what have they come? Yeah,
then you're screwed. But I feel like I feel like
ninety five, like or at least having a strict guest
count is helpful because our venue, the outdoors, only accommodates

(27:34):
two hundred people. The inside accommodates five hundred, but we
are using the outside for cocktail hour, so technically our
cut off is two hundred. But like we don't want
that many people, not because like, like we would love
to invite everyone to our wedding, Like we're social. We
want to have a huge party. The more the merrier
is like really our mentality. But like our wedding planters
very much like, look, the best way to cut down
on costs is to have less people, Like that's truly

(27:57):
what it is. So we're kind of trying to stay
like I end up around a certain number, and like
the more people you invite, the further away from that
number you get, and the higher up everything goes on
your budget list so we'll see what happens. It's crazy.
The cost of food, the cost of alcohol, the cost
of it is flat wire insane. Yes, yeah, we got lucky.

(28:17):
Our venue includes like all the silverware tables, Linen's chairs,
but ours is no Our venue host is a nightmare.
He's the worst. No really, yeah, but luckily we don't
really have to deal with them. It's the wedding planners
that's good. Yeah. So, I mean the cost is crazy,
and last night I was up a little bit just

(28:38):
getting stressed. Even like hair and makeup. You're flying in
and you have to put them up and pay for
their rental car and all sorts of it just really
adds up. Yeah, no, it does. Like even like I'm
doing um, like Kristen from Quantour Foss coming to do
my hair and makeup and like love her. I'm so
happy she's doing it. But yeah, then it's like you

(28:58):
forget about all the ad on ones of like okay,
like Uber's hotels, flights there and back, like anything that
goes over time, Like it just every little thing adds up.
So yeah, I mean, if you're looking to save money,
thirty dollars at the courthouse guys, Yeah, oh, we might
go do that today if we didn't have all of
our deposits down. Oh yeah, we had a great We
had a great musical guest reach out to us and say, hey,

(29:21):
we'll play your first song for free, and we're like,
oh great, And then we started adding all the expenses
up and we're like, oh man, this is gonna be
a lot more expensive than any thoughts. So we're gonna
maybe we're gonna say no to that because it's like
airfare and a hotel and you know, all the other
things that they might need while they're there. It's just
it's great and meals and Aspen flights alone or a
thousand dollars and then stay and Aspen is insane. So

(29:43):
we chose not the best place to get married. We
we wanted to do a band too. We were like,
Joe is dead set on a band he like loved
Wells and Sarah's band was like, it's just it brings
so much more energy. But again, the like, we couldn't
believe the cost of some wedding band. And I mean,
like it's not like that I'm saying like they're over priced.
I just like I had no idea, Like here's the

(30:05):
thing like planning a wedding is something you just don't
know until you do it, and then you're in it
and you're like, wow, I'm learning so much. If only
I could have like five of these, by the fifth one,
I would be crushing it. But the first one, like,
thank God for our planner. Truly, he was like, I
would not know what the hell was going on. It
just makes me want to buy twenty acres and turn

(30:26):
it into a wedding venue. Truly, you should, and then
you should live there and you should rent it out. Yeah,
they're making so much money, it's so insane. And when
everyone says like weddings are so expensive, I'm like, okay,
maybe like twenty thirty thousand. And we talked about budget,
and I think Dean initially said five thousand dollars for
the whole wedding. When we first started talking about weddings,

(30:48):
I was like that if that was possible, yeah, And
then I was like, that's definitely not possible. But then
we start getting hit with numbers, and even for a
wedding photographer, two people for two hours, with the rehearsal,
din and the wedding day, fifty five thousand dollars. I
was shocked. Not even video that's not wedding, so like, yeah,

(31:09):
sure that was my bad, but still fifty five and
you yeah, you knew that it was gonna be expensive.
Use for it was like no, I was like no,
but you just don't know what, like what average is, right,
Like if you told me, like, oh, you're gonna book
a wedding photograph, how much do you think it is?
Like I would be like, I genuinely have no idea.
I've never booked a wedding photographer before. And then like
if you ask me what the spectrum was, like, I

(31:30):
don't know what I would have said, but like I
feel like it's literally anywhere from like five to ten
thousand to like sixty thousand, Like it's such a wide spectrum.
And like you're like, okay, like my favorite photographer is
shooting for Vogue, but like that's my budget for my
whole wedding exactly. Well, if you want to free wedding photographers,
we can be your your your go too, yeah portfolio.

(31:53):
I feel like we're gonna like Bachelor Nation, you know,
like Blake horsemank a DJ Like you guys could be
our wedding photographer and videographer, Like, we should all just
start or Susie too, she does weddings. We should all
just start being each other's like wedding vendors, right for
a lot of money. We all team up like the
Power Rangers, and then we all become you know this
outside Bachelor packet, Yeah, the Bachelor packet. Truly, we should

(32:15):
start planning that. There should be Man, I should really
not say this because someone's going to steal. This is
a great idea. There should be like a team of
people from Bachelor that plan Bachelor bachelortte parties. Yeah. Yeah,
that'd be a great idea. Too bad I don't have
a background and event plan here. I go right onto that.
Yeah that sounds great. You could do that. You love planning.
I love planning. This has been my dream come true. Planning. Yeah,

(32:37):
you're loving it. It's so fun. I don't know what
I'm gonna do after, which is more the reason why
I'm just hands off because I'm not a planner and
you love it. So Yeah. I try to give DNA
say and I like ask him his opinion and he's
like whatever, I don't care. He just wants the ice cream.
Kate man um I care. I just I know that
you care more than I care, So it just would

(32:58):
be silly for me to put my foot down for
something that I don't care as much about as you. Yeah,
I do have a question. Have you changed your last
name and are you going to? I have not changed
my last name, still Serena Pitt. I'm going to change
my last name, probably to Amblie. I just there's just

(33:19):
no rush right now. Like at the end of the day,
if we weren't having kids, I would probably always stay
Serena Pit. The only reason I think I'll change my
last name is because I want our kids and us
to all have the same last name. And I actually
know people who have said, like, having a different last
name than your kids if you're trying to cross the border,
like from Canada the US, gets very, very difficult because
they're essentially like, prove that these are your kids because

(33:41):
you don't have the same last name, it was them.
So I think I don't have a middle name, like
my parents never gave me one. So if I can,
I'm gonna give myself the middle name Pit and then
switch my last name to a Moblie so I'll still
be like Serena pitt a Mobli, But I won't have
typhon name not why not Joe Pit. That sounds pretty cool,
don't get we started. My dad would be freaking over

(34:03):
the moon. He has two daughters and the line ends
with him. He's the only son, so it's devastating. Um.
But yeah, I think it's important to him that I
take his last name, is as much as I would
love to have Pit forever. Like, I think it's more
important to him that I take his lass name than
it would be important to me for him to take

(34:23):
my last name. Like if I felt really passionate about it,
like it would definitely be a conversation we'd have. But
I kind of always expected and like we could also
hyphenate like Pitt Moubley for both of us. But I'm
just not really into the hyphenation of it all. But
Maubley's mouthful. It's a great last name, but it's not.
It's not as easy as Pitt. Pitt's quite simple. You
guys are doing Belle right, we're doing doing Bell. We're

(34:44):
changing it, changing it up. But both brothers did the
same thing too. I was annoyed, Well not annoy it.
I'm happy for them. But I came up with this
idea like three years ago, and then my oldest brother
got married and did that. He took my idea. And
then my second brother got married and did the same thing.
And don't tell them your future kids names, they'll take
them too. You've got like seven Catherines in the family, right,

(35:05):
seven Debbies. Yeah, No, Joe's whole family's names are Joe
on both sides. And it's so complicated. Oh my gosh,
there's like three Joe Mobley's. So is there what's the children?
Um idea? Are you guys gonna have kids? Is there
a plan for kids? Is it just going to kind
of be what whatever happens happens. Yeah, I think we

(35:26):
want to have kids. We're thinking two kids would be
like what we want if that is what we can have. Um,
right now, we're just live in life, like we haven't
really put a hard timeline on it. Um the whole
like dual income, no kid life is like really for
me right now. And I mean I definitely want kids.
But I was saying to my parents the other day,

(35:47):
I was like, man, like it's gonna it's hard to
like imagine giving up your freedom, like selfishly and like
just how you know you're We went away to Florida
with Joe's um with two of Joe's friends and they
have a really cute two year old and he's great
and they're a beautiful family. But it really made me
see because we were living with them, like kids are

(36:08):
a twenty four seven job and like I obviously knew that,
but then seeing you're like, wow, like it really changes
your whole life when you have them, which is both
is amazing, but like I want to make sure we're
like really ready for that and we're gonna have them.
It's just making sure like all of our ducks are
in a row and like there's no perfect time for anything.
But yeah, it's it's a big decision to have children,

(36:28):
like it really is. But two two is what we're
interested in maybe in like two or three years. Think
life is the way to go. Can't go wrong it is,
you can't go along with it. It's really the height
of luxury. What are you most excited about the second wedding?

(36:55):
Because you're you're already married, What's like, what are you
guys the most excited for? Oh, I don't know. I
think just um, I think both of our like both
our engagement and our marriage now have been away from
our family and friends because we obviously got engaged on
the show. So when we had our engagement party, like

(37:20):
it's a lot of like running around and like saying
hide people and like a little bit stressful, but I
just remember being like so happy seeing like all of
our people together in one space and like everyone just
felt like it was just so happy and wonderful and
like such a great memory to have, and like I
think I'm just excited for that, like to create those
memories and like see you know Joe's loved ones, my

(37:40):
loved ones all there. Like we just want people to
have a good time, like guest experiences like top of
our lists, and yeah, I'm just excited to be in
the room and like have that energy of like people
around us and be like wow, like we're married. This
is really exciting. Like I mean, it feels official, but
like I feel like standing up there like saying our
vows will be like holy shit, it's real. Right. Do

(38:01):
you think Joe's gonna cry when he sees you? Oh,
he really doesn't want to, but like he's like I'm
not gonna cry. I can't cry. We're doing a first look,
which I said I would never do a first look,
but when we talk to our photographer and our wedding
planner just logistically for like the day of schedule, it
makes a lot more sense for us to do it,

(38:22):
especially just like with our venue and stuff, like it's
going to be easier to take photos like in other
spaces in the city, like prior to us going to
the venue. So if he does cry, he has the
privacy of a first look to like let it out.
But I'll get emotional. I'm like such a happy crier,
So that's yeah, that's bound to happen. Do you guys
have honeymoon plans or ideas yet? I think so. Um,

(38:48):
nothing's like for sure set in stone, but we're looking
at the Fairmont my Cobra right now. That's maybe an option.
I don't really care one hundred percent where we go.
I just said to him, like, I don't want to
really do like a Grease or a Europe trip because
I don't want to have to like plan about tret
and then plan a wedding and then also plan like
a multidestination honeymoon. Like we will do those trips like,

(39:11):
we love traveling, We'll always eventually make time to make
it there. I would love to just go somewhere where
we can like lay on a beach for a few
days and like really unwind and relax after the chaos
of it all, because what we're doing is we have
our wedding and then I think we have to go
to his cousin's wedding the weekend after, so it's gonna
be like a really busy few weeks. So I'm like,

(39:32):
I just want to relax. But what are you guys doing?
You guys have been like everywhere. How do you pick
a honeymoon vacation when you guys travel so much? We're
going to the moon. Oh my god. I really want
to do South Africa. But I agree like planning it
is a lot, especially South Africa when you have to
go to Cape Town. Then you do the Safaris and true, yeah,

(39:52):
Wells's brother plans those trips, so I've been talking to
him about maybe doing it for me. That's me. I
always wanted to do one of those trips. I think,
like African Safari might not really be on Joe's bucket
list of travel, but I think that would be so amazing.
I don't know. One of our good friends is just
down there and he said the food is incredible. So
if it's really down there, that's a point. That's a

(40:15):
point for me. I'm gonna I'm gonna let him know that.
Are you guys, what's the food situation gonna be at
your wedding? Because we all know Joe's a big foodie,
so he's got to have like a big hand in that. Yeah,
he is a big foodie. The thing is, so we're
talking about this in the beginning. We're like, we need
our wedding food to be like amazing. Like I was like,
I want to do like family style pasta, and I
want to do food trucks, and I want to do

(40:35):
like all of these things. But like, and we haven't
done our tasting yet. I'm very confident that, like the
venues we've picked, like the food is going to be delicious,
but like it's just so hard to have wedding food
be like the best food you've ever eaten, Like they're
serving like a hundred people at the same time. Like
Joe's a huge foody and he's like I literally can
even remember like any wedding, Like the food doesn't make
or break the wedding. Like it's just a meal. You

(40:57):
sit down, you enjoy it. Like I'm excited to our tasting,
but he's mostly concerned about like the ice cream sandwiches,
Like as long as we got those, like I think
he'll be happy. Um, but yeah, what about you guys?
Do you know what you're serving? Ice cream of some
sort out or what? I like ice cream sandwiches, But
we can't steal that, so we'll make it. Maybe we'll
steal it. It wasn't our idea our venue offers it.

(41:17):
I wanted a mochi kick, just a bunch of mochi
balls stacked up on top of each other, which I
really love, which leave him in charge of dessert. And
like it's like just like doing that what I show.
It seems to be what you're most passionate and right,
but our venue has um a farm to table chef. Oh,
we don't really like have much. Say, we're gonna do

(41:38):
a tasting in June, but I don't know if like
they're going to give us a bunch of options. I
don't really know how it works. You know, it's so
weird for tastings. Is so when you pick your wedding
like you serve. Like I think we get like two
mains and then like a vegetarian option. It's not like
you to try like ten mains and then pick two.
You only get to try too, so you're basically just
trying what you're serving, just making sure what if it's awful.

(42:02):
Then it's like you think you get to try like
ten different things and then be like, oh, these two
are my favorite. Yeah, but it's just like these two
look the best, all right. They taste good too. Guess
we're good. And that's kind of what I always envision envisioned. Two.
It's just like a table where you're just like picking
and seeing what you love the most. It's not gonna
be for us, Nope, not for you. No. Um, since

(42:25):
you guys have been married almost a year now, probably right,
we got married, no October, so February like four. Yeah,
I don't know time, you know, time's weird these days.
Winter moves so slow. It's been a whole year in yeah,
especially in Chicago. I can only imagine York. In New York. Yeah,
we're in New York. The weather is a little milder here,

(42:45):
but still like kind of cold and gray most days.
Was there every like a shift in like the relationship
after the wedding, you guys experience. Oh, A lot of
people asked us if we felt like our relationship changed
in any way. Um, honestly, not at all. I was
talking to a friend about this actually because she was like,
I feel like everyone always says like, oh my god,
everything changes when you're married, or like the first year

(43:06):
of marriage is the hardest year. I feel like that
applies more to people that, um, like maybe don't move
in together until they get married, or like hold off
on certain aspects of the relationship until they're married. Literally, like,
nothing changed for us structurally in our relationship once we
got married, Like we're already living together all of that stuff,

(43:26):
So I feel like it's the same. I think it
will mostly change, like when we have kids. The only
thing that's changes. Joe lost to be like I want
to divorce. Like if I like do something that I
didn't always say, I'm gonna be like, what's that out
as a joke? But so that's fun. You have that
to look forward to, right, I can't wait for those jokes?
So off, Like crazy do you does he wear a

(43:49):
wedding band? Now or is he waiting until the big ceremony.
He's waiting, so I just have my engagement ring, Like
I didn't get a wedding band, and then he didn't
get one, so we decided to save like the exchange
of rings and bows for our wedding, just to kind
of like have still some of like the symbolism when
we do it. But he also likes to make jokes
about how he's a single man because he doesn't wear

(44:12):
a wedding rings. So that might change soon if those
keep ups. Oh my gosh. When you guys are like
out to dinner or at a hotel, do you call
each other husband and wives if you're like my wife
needs a toothbrush or something. Yeah he does, but like
it's so bad, but like we almost do it as
a joke, like he'll be like, hi, my wife forgot
her purse. But it's like we're actually married, Like it
shouldn't be a joke anymore, Like it's been four months,

(44:34):
but it's so it feels so weird still, like yeah,
there were so many newly wed phase um, but yeah,
it's like I will call him my husband, but like
really only if I'm in a situation where I like
have to refer to him as my husband. It doesn't
like roll off the tongue yet I use all three.
I call her girlfriend, fiance, and wife. Just depends on

(44:55):
the mood, like yesterday to mix it up, just makes
it up. Yesterday I had to pick something up from
for like an adam doing from a food and wine
you're here and they were like, oh, yeah, we try
to deliver it this morning and I was like, oh yeah,
my fiance was in the shower and she couldn't get
the door or something, and I was like, why did
I call her my fiance? She is my fiance. But
I never I use the fiance at least often. Yeah,

(45:16):
you know, yeah, mostly girlfriend or wife. Fiance is the
one that feels like, so yes, pretentious, Like I was
gonna say fancy, pretentious is a way better word. Um
where you're like, oh, my fiance, I hate saying it.
But then it's like, if that's what you are, that's
what you say. But then it feels like people have
to ask you, oh, when you're getting married, and then
they're like, oh, when did you get engaged? And I'm like, no,

(45:38):
I'm not asking for you, Like I'm not asking for me. Yeah,
it's like an invitation for people to ask you a
bunch of personal questions about your life by saying your fiance.
Like if I see my boyfriend, no one cares, no
one my husband, no one cares. Still, right, but I
actually followed this TikToker and she's engaged, and she did
a TikTok. She was like, I will not be using

(45:59):
fiance like he is my boyfriend, Like I will be
calling my boyfriend and then I'll be calling him my husband.
Like She's like, I can't get behind fiance. How do
I do that? There was a point where I was
talking about Dean and I kept saying it fiance, and
I was like, oh, I hate I feel like I
sounds so annoying right now, but that's what he is. Yeah.
The thing with us is like we were only each

(46:19):
other's fiance, so like when we were on the show
and then we like I never really called him my
boyfriend on the show unless I was like joking around. Yeah,
and then we got engaged, so then he was my
fiance for a year and a half and then he
now he's my husband, so like, basically the entirety of
our relationship, he's been my fiance. Oh wow, which is
weird and you never used it or rarely? No, I

(46:41):
would because like that's the only thing I knew really,
but yeah, I don't know. None of it feels normal. Yeah,
I agree. Well, Serena, thank you so much for joining us.
We don't want to take up too much of your time,
but we're excited to see the pictures. Were so happy
for you and Joe offer still stands. If you guys
need a wedding photographer and videographer, give us a call.

(47:02):
Let us know. It's like, we won't even be there.
We'll use our long lens and shoot you from a
distance like you can just drone drone shots only Oh yeah,
we'll get some nice silent drones that way you don't
hear the buzzing all around you. Um, what's one last
question we can ask, Serena. Let's think of one last question. Um, oh,
will you be I'm doing the whole cake in the face. No,

(47:25):
I actually said that to him. We're watching a movie
the other day, We're watching Father of the Bride, and
I was like, I'm paying good money and Kristen is
spending a long time on this face. I swear to God,
if you smash vanilla cake in it or whatever, we
end up eating chocolate even worse, Like I just don't
do it, like immediate divorce, Like you don't do it.

(47:46):
But he, I feel like would feel just as passionately
about me smashing cake in his face. So are you
guys gonna do it? You can smash it in my face.
I think it's gonna letting really smear. Oh yeah, you
can smash it in my face. I'll do it. He's
not about to pull up in. The mustache would be
great for photos. The mustache isn't gonna be here for
the wedding, but okay, think so, Yeah, this is more

(48:09):
of just like a joke. He looks to Klin to
find out if he's going to be having a mustache.
Oh gosh, every day, every time, we'll look myself in
the mirror with this mustache and I'm like, you are disgusting.
It was just so so gross. Yeah, so that's not
going to stick around. But I think that's a good side.
You should probably take it, all right, feel that way
about yourself. I also need to lose twenty pounds in

(48:29):
seven six months, so I gotta get to work on that. Oh,
you're on that wedding diet. I mean, I'm not yet,
but I need to be. I like, I've just been
eating Girl Scout cookies and that's about it for the
past few days. So definitely, and that'll do it. That'll
do it. But yeah, thank you so much for joining us.
We appreciate it. Like I said, we're so happy and
excited for you guys. Yeah, thanks for having me. It's

(48:50):
so fun to chat with you guys when you're also
planning the wedding. So yeah, I'm excited for you guys too.
Can't wait to see all the picks in the videos
and the drone shots. Well I want to say best
to but it seems like you guys already got it
all figured out, so keep doing what you're doing. Definitely not,
but I appreciate the confidence that you're having us. Big
thank you to you for joining us, Big thank you
for listeners and Syrina you also do you also host

(49:12):
a podcast? I do not. I just I thought you
mosted the one with Joe or something, So I hosted
Happy Hour for like a season and then I like
did the live show with Joe for a clickbait. When
we did, we interview Zac, which was really fun. I'm
actually popping on to Clickbait. I think this week too nice.

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So well, for the listeners that are listening to this,
be sure to go check out Clickbait and check out
Serena on Instagram and all the social media platforms and
all that kind of stuff. Stay updated on the wedding
and everything. But yeah, thank you so much for joining us.
We appreciate it. We love you, guys, and we wish
you nothing but the best. Thanks, guys, have a good one.
Thanks for having to And that's gonna do it for

(50:05):
this week's episode. It just flows so much better when
Jared's not here. I want, I want, I was gonna say,
I want the listeners to just start DM and Jared
and say, hey, just don't show up every week. Just
collect your paycheck every quarter and just let Dean and
Kayleen handle all that heavy lifting. Okay, but you guys
have all had time off. I know I get timeline,

(50:25):
but I only say this because sick today. I only
say this because I know that I take a lot
of time off as well. And Kaylin is set Kalina
has a cold. I gave it to her. You're welcome.
I'm also dealing with some torn knee ligaments. It's about
me right now. Okay, Yeah, let's focus on me. And
Kayleen is sick. I'm just getting she's drinking two green juices.
She's got a bunch of medicine over here. She's been
snoring up a storm every single night I have. I'm sorry,

(50:47):
I can't breathe. Yeah, and I don't have a phone
charger on my side of the bed, so I'll like
put my headphones in, but my phone is only alive
for like an hour. And then let me just say
something about that. There are so many phone chargers around
our house. Dean could easily just plug one into his
sad table. But here's the thing is I forget all
day to bring one up into the room, and then
when it's time for me to go to bed, I
am just too tired to go get one. This is crazy. Um.

(51:11):
Let's also talk about your LCL real quick. Yeah. I
think I tore my LCL or my meniscus. Something weird
happened in my knee. I was supposed to be goingus. Um,
I think so, I don't see why not? Do you
know what a meniscus is? Nope? Then did you think
you wouldn't be militaris. Isn't it your knee? Uh, well,
I don't know. I don't. I believe it's a ligament

(51:33):
on the outside of your knee. Um, I don't know
what it was. I didn't have like a fall or anything.
I just I hiked hard on it, I guess is
the only thing. I hug like twenty miles in two
days in Pedagoon yet and I woke up and I
can barely bend my knee now. So I'm get an
MRI this weekend. We'll see how that goes. But you're
just going to the doctor. They have to schedule them, right,
but they don't need to know logistics. Okay, But also

(51:55):
the pain has moved from your knee to your quad.
There's all sorts of things happening with this. Quad is
feeling better. The quad was just so or because I'm
limping on my leg and I'm activating different muscles in
my leg like that was my suspicion. And today I
woke up and it doesn't feel as bad as it yesterday.
So I'm confirming that suspicion. But yeah, I'm supposed to
ski from now until the end of the ski season.
But I can't do that because I can barely even walk.

(52:16):
So now I'm just building foe beams in our guest
room in the meantime while this thing heals, which is
kind of a bummer. But that's the update on us.
Is there anything else you want to share about our
wedding planning or anything like that. I mean, I'm just
a little just about the money aspect, but otherwise we're
good and we have everything booked, like every single vendor

(52:38):
is booked, and now it's just like the design process.
So we're doing great. I mean, I'm doing great because
you're not really involved, which I'm fine with. It's a
little bit of anger, and I like having free range
and being able to do whatever I want. Do you
have so much fun with this? As a little girl
dreaming about your future wedding, did you imagine your husban

(53:00):
been to be being so blase about the planning process. Yes,
this is exactly what I dreamt it is, so I'm
giving you your dream exactly. Gosh, I'm so great, aren't
I'm so great? And this is exactly what I dream
just not having to do anything, just sitting back and
writing a check, writing a check out of my fiance's
bank account because I have no money. Oh my gosh,

(53:21):
this again? Yeah? Sorry. You know, if anyone's out there
and wants to donate to the Dean Fund, no, Dean
is fine. Extra work. Um yeah, there's anything else we
want to talk about before we say goodbye? Um? Probably? Oh.
I always like think of things throughout the week and
I'm like, oh, we should talk about this, we should
talk about that, and then the time comes and I forget.

(53:44):
Do you want to talk about your Vanderpump Rules drama?
Oh my gosh, yes I do. Thank you for asking. Um. So,
if anyone following the Vanderpump Rules drama, it is wild,
and I I don't really know what else to say
beyond that, it's I just can't imagine dating someone for
a decade, we're dating, married, whatever, and my best friend

(54:07):
is cheating on you with what? Yeah, cheating cheating on
you with me? Yeah? Wait? What? Those things always confuse me.
I don't know why, but yes, I think it's wild.
I think also the Internet just loves to cancel people
and hate on people. Yes, what they did is horrible
and so wrong, but I don't think people should be

(54:29):
just like whatever. Let them learn their lesson and don't
be so hateful, and let's support Arianna. I think Arianna
is an amazing person and we'll just uplift her without
dragging people down. Do you think they're doing this for headlines?
You know, that's definitely been a topic on TikTok. People
think it's all fake just to get the views up.
And I heard on a podcast that vander watch What

(54:50):
Happens Live with Andy Cohen. It was the top rated episode,
like highest viewership in two years, which seems like it
should be more. But um, I don't know what was it.
They had the guests from vander Pump. They had Lisa
vander Pump on but she's not even in the drama. No,
but Lisa is the owner of these restaurants and she
takes care of all of her little chicklings. And so

(55:13):
she was talking about it and basically said what I said, like, yes,
they did a horrible thing, but let's not like, you know,
people's mental health are also involved, Like they did, they
did a horrible thing, but we can say they did
a horrible thing without like sending them so much hate.
If people that I knew were having an affair, the
last person I would care to hear about. Is their
Bob from there? Is their Bob? Well, like Lisa is
also friends with them. It's the show is like it

(55:35):
started because of her, right, It just it seems like
the highest rated show. You would expect one of the
people involved in the scandal to be on the show,
not just one of their friends, you know what I mean? Yes,
But also I think because it's basically Lisa's show, the
other people on the show, um, they have NDA's and
a lot of them have like tried to talk about

(55:57):
it and go on podcasts and things, but um, it's
Bravo and they're like restricting it. So also because it's Bravo,
they can't go on Andy Cohen because it's live, and
they're worried like what they would say. That's my understanding,
could be totally wrong. I see, so still crazy any
new developments since last week? You know, I checked TikTok
regularly and I haven't seen anything. I know. Raquel apologized twice.

(56:21):
Tom Sandoval also apologized twice. His first apology was like, no,
I need to make money, don't come after my business.
And then that's literally it. And then he came out
and he's like, oh, actually, like, I'm sorry to my
partner of ten years. Ten years a long time, nine years,
but basically ten do you think they would have benefited
from being in an open relationship? Well, okay, so those

(56:42):
are the rumors that they were in an open relationship,
and that was kind of leading up to this season.
I heard you guys were in an open relationship, and
so then it's like, maybe they were, but then he
got feelings. I don't know. I don't really know. I
just think I feel for Arianna, and I'm putting myself
in her position. If I were to be airy on it,

(57:03):
I wouldn't want all this pity coming towards me, which
I feel like she's getting a lot of pity. I
would just want to be like whatever, I'm moving on, like,
screw that guy. So Arianna, keep doing you. So they
broke up, yeah, of course, And is he dating the
girl that he was cheating on her with. There's a
lot of back and forth about that as well. People
are like Raquel fired her PR team and hired a
new one and said she's going to break things off

(57:25):
with him. But then there's things saying like they're in
love and they want to be together, So who knows.
I don't. I just I could talk about this for
days and I don't know why I'm talking. And I'm like,
why am I talking about this? Well, it's interesting to me,
probably not to you. It's not to me, but I'm
glad that you're interested in it. It's just crazy. Do
you want to talk about NFL free agency? Right? It's

(57:47):
interesting to me, but it's not interesting to you. Right,
you know, you see what I'm saying. That's it. That's
all I got. I think that's all we got as
an episode today too. We got north of an hour,
so anytime we can hit sixty minutes plus, I think
we're doing a little too much. Maybe maybe we could
shorten it up a little bit. But you know, Serena
is a great guest. She's got a you know, interesting

(58:07):
slate of things coming up for her, so it's always
good to hear from her and check in and hear
how they're doing. And thank goodness their wedding isn't on
the same day as ours, Yeah, because then Walls wouldn't
come to our wedding, yeah, which you know, I guess. Well,
it's just values Joe's friendship more than it does mine.
We're really learning a lot about our friends and where
we rank in their lives. Well, Wells hadn't more of
an obligation. I'm just kidding. But with other people who

(58:28):
aren't coming to then it's like, okay, fine, Wells, you
can officiate our wedding if that's what it's going to take. No,
we already asked, could you imagine saying, hey, sorry, we
actually don't want to have anymore to Jackson. Are we
allowed to say? Why wouldn't we? I guess it doesn't matter. Yeah,
I'm pretty sure we should just bleep random things out
of the podcast, just like I don't understand why you
want to keep everything so secretive. I don't know either

(58:53):
I would, but I do. Okay, well, I guess you
got to know come back to that. Yeah, that's your prerogative.
I don't know. I guess I'm open to sharing more
about the venue maybe another day. Yeah, that's gonna do it.
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(59:13):
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