January 30, 2025 • 22 mins
Sandra Mason went viral with a cozy photo this week. Is she headed for an I Do, Part 2 with a fellow golden contestant?
What is flirting like in your second act? Kathy gives some pointers!
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome to I Do Part two, the podcast for people
that either didn't get love right the first time around,
are people that have loved and lost Sondra, I am
welcoming you tonight to this podcast from Carmel, California. Sandra
Mason from our season of Golden Bachelor. How are you
(00:40):
doing this evening, Sondra?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I am doing great for being midnight when it says
nine o'clock here.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, I heard Sandra's tired, but that's okay. So I
am on with Susan Knowles. We have the Golden Bachelor podcast.
It's under Bachelor Happy Hour and it's Golden Hour, and
I hope you all will tune in. But tonight this
is about all things love. So Sandra, I haven't seen
you in a while, and Part two, you may or
(01:12):
may not know, is all about finding love again. So
let's start back at the beginning. Tell me about your
first love, your family, tell me how we got to
where we are, because this podcast is all about finding
love again. And to get that, we need to know
where you came from.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, first love as in when I was a young
young gul.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well you know, maybe your husband, the father, your kids,
wherever you want to start. USh.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
God, I got married in nineteen sixty eight. Do the math.
It's about one hundred years ago. I have two daughters.
And that was love. We were in college. Boy, that
takes me back. We were in college and got married
before I graduated. He had graduated.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So yeah, and how old are your kids now?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Fifty two and almost forty?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
How old are you? Seventy six and a half.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And I count them, So you're going to be soon
be seventy seven in July. All right, well, you know,
happy half birthday there, Thank you, ma'am. Okay, so tell
me you know you've had an amazing week. I'm just
going to jump in here. Your photograph with c K,
(02:33):
that is Charles K went viral. Tell me about that, Like,
did you have any idea that it would go viral?
What were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, I didn't. We were just having fun and taking
pictures and kind of yacking it up. And we were
at the restaurant and folks were saying, yeah, let us
take the pictures for you, because in two old people
trying to figure out how to hold cant the phone
up high and get the light. And so are you
(03:06):
talking to him?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Are you dating? Him. Come on, give us the school
that's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, we lived three thousand miles apart, so it's not
exactly dating. We're kind of like phone piles or pin pals.
So but unfortunately, well unfortunately we do live that far apart.
And the second unfortunately is that he has an opportunity.
His company is sending him to Cape Town, South Africa shortly.
(03:32):
I guess his first trip there will be March.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So there's that makes flirting long distance in issue.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, that's a brand new talent. I'll have to develop something.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So wait, are you thinking like you flirting? Are you interested?
Tell me what you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh, I'm interested. I don't know if he is or not.
I can't speak for him, but as a matter of fact,
I was telling him that when it was Jones Limo night,
he was the one gentleman that I honed in on
when he walked out of the limo. Really, yeah, he
was the one, and just coincidentally, I've met it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So wait, let me he lives in right now, He
lives in California and you live in Atlanta. So was
he there?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
On? Where were you?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Where was the where were those pictures taken?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh? Oh, I came out here years for the Rose
Bowl Parade, and he and I had been talking, uh
chatting on the phone. Matter of fact, he had gone
to Atlanta for business and we were supposed to have
dinner one evening and I wound up in the hospital. Yeah,
this was supposed uh ton selectomy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And how are you feeling now?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm a lot better?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, good. We're glad to hear that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I haven't had a cold and I haven't had a
throw you know what.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I've had your cold, bronchitis, I've had it all. But
I'm good now. So hold on, So you came out here,
did you reach out to him to have dinner?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, because I owed him. I thought I owed him
from when I owed stood him up in Atlanta and intantly.
But so I told him I was coming up for
the parade, and we agreed to meet and got to dinner.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, and was it everything? I mean, come on, give.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We had great conversation. He's he's he's funny. We were
funny together. We just we had just great conversation, telling
jokes and and just learning who each other is. Uh,
learning about his past and shared mine with him, and
we just yucked it up. It was just a lot
(05:32):
of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I can't tell. I can't tell if it's if he's
the friend zone.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, yeah, he would have to be. Again, we're three
thousand miles so.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean, I'll travel anywhere for love, Saunders say, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, I won't. I don't think he would either. You
know he's got Hey, I always look at it this wave.
I'm interested in the guy. Other people are interested in
that same guy. So it's not like I can.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Don't you think you're I mean, come on, aren't you
first in line?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I don't know. I haven't asked, all right.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So so for those of you who don't know, we're
all out here having a fabulous weekend in Carmel, and
we're here for the Pebble Beach pro am, and I
do I need to tell you how many available men
are going to be on that golf course.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Tell me there's gonna be a lot. Okay, So my
question for you is, what do you think? Are you
going to be flirting with some other guys you're gonna
be looking? Are you gonna because you know c K
is here?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes? Yes? Have you seen him?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Man? I know?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Well, I know we're supposed to have a podcast tomorrow.
So have I seen him?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I just walked in.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Wait, what give me the school? I want the scoop, Sondra,
what's the scoop going to be on the podcast?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I have no idea?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Nope? Are you going? Are you going to ask him out?
You're going to try to like be his date while
you're here?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Come on, Kathy, you're asking me things I haven't even
thought about. I don't I don't know what to expect
to this entire weekend. So I know that some of
his castmates will be there, so he gets to reunite
with the guys.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's a golden reunion. Okay, Okay, so let me ask
you something. Are you dating at all? Other guys? Spell
(07:28):
you know, I'm going to ask.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
A gentleman in my local area that I've been talking with,
just talking and and and we've we've gone to dinner
a couple of times, and uh, I met a buddy
of his. So that's that's dating. That's prelim dating, I think, Sondra.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Help you know me? Well, you know I'm not letting
that one go. Are we kissing? Are we holding?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We have kissed?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So this is more than just a one time date.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh yeah, thus far, we've had two I call call
it to a half dates.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So, K, you're out in the cold, buddy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm just gonna Oh no, no, no, don't say that.
I'd be willing to bet mister has had since I've
met him, he's had several dates. He's a working guy too,
so his time maybe someone limited. I'm retired, so I
can I'm a little more flexible.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So are you dating more than one guy?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Not right now? Are you a one guy girl? Not necessarily,
but there's only one guy right now, right now, and
he lives in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
He lives in the Atlanta area.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, So you know you and I are both in
the dating world now. And it's a different world, right,
I mean tell me, I can't remember. Are you divorced, right? Yes, divorced? Okay,
and you know my husband passed away, so it's a
little bit different. How do your kids feel about you dating?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Oh, they're excited for me, just like I've said before.
They are my cheerleaders. When I was on the Golden Batch,
they were my cheerleaders, and finding a guy is something
they want for me, just like I want that for them.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah. Yeah, Well are your kids with Do they have partners?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Actually? Yes, you know one got married, Yeah, I remember that.
The other one is dating a gentleman. So yeah, they're
doing great.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So how do they feel like my kids? I'll be
honest with you. My kids don't like it when they
see me with the guy kissing them, holding hands PDA.
Uh uh kids that you'd have to ask them.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But they want you to be a virgin till you die.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think the virgin things sailed three children ago. Well, no,
you know what I mean, But no, I just think
it makes them uncomfortable. Your kids, how do you feel
about PDA? Like, are you going to hold hands in public?
Kids in public?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, if it comes to that, absolutely, I don't. I
don't have a problem with that at all. And I
don't think they would either. Yeah, they might. They might
kid my daughters.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So are you looking for serious the serious next guy?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I would think?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Really, are you ready to get like commit?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh? If it's the right man, I will commit. Now.
I'm not signing papers, that's what you're asking.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh wait, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It means I'm not getting married?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh? Well, I mean unless you want more children at
seventy six what.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
We could practice?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But yeah, So okay, so you're out here, you're gonna go?
Are you gonna be looking for guys out here?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I I hadn't thought about it. So what I hadn't
I didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I'm not okay, let me let me break the down.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You break it down, girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
There is going to be a pebblebeat pro am golf tournament.
There's gonna be a lot of golfers. There's gonna be
a lot of people watching the golfers. Men love golf. Yes,
I know, there's can be a lot of men out there. Okay,
are you gonna be searching? Do I have to fight you?
Do I have to fight you? No?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Of course not. You know, here's the thing. I'm not
a flirter. I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I don't believe that for one minute.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think the most effective way to approach men or
is just to talk, just to talk and be myself.
I'm the whole flirting thing. My god, I'm seventy six
years old at the I'm not flirting.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So how do you meet guys? I mean, what do
you do? You go up and talk to him? Talk?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, talk, about.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But here's the thing I do Part two. Right, We've
we've both been married before. We're looking for part two.
We're looking for our second happiness, right, second partner, second
person to spend our life with.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Right, well, could have been more than that. But okay,
I mean I've dated since right divorce. But no.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But I'm saying we're looking for that that person.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, are you?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I mean I am.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I guess I'm looking. I'm not, see Kathy, I don't.
I'm not sure how to express this. I'm not out
looking and searching for a guy. It happens organically. I
bump into men, I meet men, friends, introduced me to guys.
But to say I'm out there with you know my
antenna up? No? No?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So okay, well, I think that's very fair. I mean,
you know me, I always say, guys aren't going to
come and knock on your door. You have to be
out there.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let me be out there, out and about.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So are you good? If you're I mean, I have
to be honest. I would like to find that guy
to have my part two with, and I think you
would too. But it takes a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Okay, I don't, I wouldn't call it work. I just
I don't know. Effort, effort, Okay, effort In other words,
like you said, you can't sit at home and expect
someone to knock on the door. You have to be
out and about, you have to be Do you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Know what I would do right now to have someone
knock on the door, just on this podcast here, that
knock and say, wow, he's here. I don't think it's happening.
Just it just passed my mind for a moment there.
But you know, I think I think a lot of
people thought that, you know, we would have a lot
of guys from jone season, uh, you know, hooking up
(12:59):
with us. I think the difference. I actually I was
going to ask you this. I think that I've talked
to a lot of the guys from Jones season and
they've had a lot of women reach out to them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm not either. Did you have a lot of guys
reach out to you on DMS when you came off
the show.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm not going to I don't think a lot is
an appropriate word. I've had several, but I don't know
what that's on.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Did you date any of them?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No, I've had converse phone conversations. The problem, Well, I
don't know if it's a problem. The gentlemen who have
reached out to me again are long distance from where
I am.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Are you willing to relocate?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, I don't know. It depends on who it is
and what the other circumstances in life. It's just in
my mind, it's difficult to date. It's difficult to get
to know someone. It's difficult to be spontaneous when someone
lives a plane ride away?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Okay, but wait, would you pick up? And I think
the difference between now and part two for me is
I meet the guy I'm interested in. He says, Hey,
you know, let me buy a ticket. Let's meet in London.
I'm going, okay, are you?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It depends on It depends on who he is.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
What I mean, if I have to be interested.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right, yeah, if it's the right guy, I might do that.
And I've had a guy say to me whom I
really never met, just had half of a conversation with,
and he says, I want you to come out and
see you live in Chicago. I want you to come
see me and I'll pay your way. And how's that?
And I said, well, first of all, I can pay
my own way. If I'm going to come see you,
(14:41):
I'm paying my own way. And two, I gave him
the daughter test. Do you have a daughter? He said yes.
I said, if some man she never met said to her,
I'll pay your way, come see me, what would you
tell your daughter? And it stopped him and he said,
I understand. So I said, so look, if you want
to meet me, you come my way. You make that
(15:03):
effort first. I'm not gonna hop a plane come see
you just because you paid for it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And folks, therein lies the difference. If c K goes
to South Africa and asks me to come, I'm on
the next plane.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But see, I've already mete K. I've met him. We've
had we've spent time together. We've on the phone, we've
had nose to nose.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So I, I wait, did you kiss him?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
We kissed?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Is he a good kisser?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think so. I think I think we matched well
in that department.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Listen to her. I'm telling you, getting stuff out of you,
Sundra's like pulling teeth.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Here's the thing, Kathy, I'm a very pragmatic person, very practical,
very pragmatic. So I'm not one who can read between
the lines very well.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You're not going to jump off a cliff if if
you think I could be loved, you're not going to
take the risk.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well yeah, well that's what are you asking me.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I guess what I'm saying is you know, you see
you're pragmatic. Sometimes love, especially at our age, is just
jumping off a cliff saying I don't know, let's see
where it goes.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Okay, So are you talking about once you're in love
or getting toward love? I'm away? At what point are
you talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Saying I meet somebody and I think, well, maybe I'm
interested just taking the risk. It's you know, it's not
like you and I are gonna raise a family, have children,
So why not take a risk? You're retired? Why not?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, I can take a risk, but I've got to
get to know someone I've got. There's got to be
some comfort level there that he is age appropriate, that
he has relationships, the family relationships that he has, that
he's financially stable. There are things that I that have
to be in place before I jump off a cliff. Okay,
(16:56):
So because I'm too practical.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I was just going to say, that's that's very
that's not jumping off a cliff. That's getting all the
data walking step by stepped to the cliff, and which
is fine too, which is fine to Well, you know what.
It seems to have worked well for you so far.
(17:21):
Are you ready for the golf tournament tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think so. Yeah, it should be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Are you a golfer? I used to golf. I've got
two sets of clubs in my garage.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Wait, you know how I talk about used to guys?
Are you a used to golfer? Mean?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I used to golf. I stopped about a year and
a half ago. I stopped just before we filmed on
the Batch because I had a little bit of a
car accident and jammed my thumb and it swelled up.
Went to the doctor and they x rayed both hands
and said, oh, by the way, you have arthritis and
both thumbs. Oh joy. Okay, so gripping sometimes is a
(17:59):
problem for me. So I haven't since the show. I
haven't really. I've gone out to the range. I haven't
gone out to the course.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I can all right, Well, I'm going to be watching
you at this golf tournament I'm going to be seeing
who you make eye contact with. I'm going to be
seeing who floats your boat, who you're willing to walk
off the cliff for, who you're willing to walk up
and give a kiss to, who you're willing to walk
up to and start a conversation with.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Hey, I can do I can conversation.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah you can do that. Sure, Okay, now I might,
I might beat you to it.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Can I get some pointers from you because you seem
to be you know what?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I I pointers on what how to meet.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The guy, how to flirt, how to I mean turn off.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Here's here's what I do if I find someone that
is appealing to me. I think the biggest compliment you
can pay someone and show you're interested is to ask him,
in my case, ask him questions about himself. That's what
I do. I ask, and I use their name, so
(19:06):
you know, in your case, c K, tell me where
you know, tell me you're going to South Africa. Whatever
I ask using their name, look them in the eye,
ask some questions about themselves, because I think that puts
people at ease. But then, of course I'm waiting for
those people ask me questions as well. But I also
think sometimes just a smile, you know, making an eye contact.
(19:28):
It's not that hard. I do believe chemistry is you know,
it's it's at the forefront. Right you meet someone, you
either have chemistry you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
See and I don't I don't see. I don't like
to be interviewed. I don't like men to come ask
me are you married? Or who are you here? With no,
So by the same token, I don't want to approach anyone. Well,
I'll talk to a guy and we'll chat about where
we are, what's going on, how's your game, where your buddy.
(20:00):
I'll talk about things that are would be common to
the environment, not necessarily go after him.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, but think about it, Sondra. You have to when
you meet someone, you have somebody has to say, hey,
how are you nice to meet you? Or you know,
oh you're a golfer. Oh you're here watching the golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Oh yeah, that kind of conversation is great.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Well that's how you start.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, But when you say start asking him questions about
himself and use his name and that's fine, Well, I
don't know, I just maybe I've misunderstood what you were saying.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, Well, here's what I think, Sondra. Tomorrow, when you
and I go to the golf.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Tournament, are you going to give me some point?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I want you to follow after me. We're gonna we're
gonna pick out the guy you're gonna show me, Kathy.
I like that guy, and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm
gonna make it happen for you.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You are, You're gonna tell him.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I'm gonna be a wing woman. I'm gonna be your
wing woman.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Lord of Mercy, I'm in trouble now.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
No, it's gonna it's gonna be great. You're gonna have guys,
you know, like a dance card. Your dance card is
gonna be full. These guys are all gonna be like,
I want her number. I want her number.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But let me ask you this, Kathy. You say there's
going to be a swarm of men, won't there be
a lot of women as well?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah? I think I measure up. Do you measure up?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well? Yeah? I don't. Then don't trying to measure I'm
just saying.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Who cares? My point is who cares? Right, You're at
the top of the heaps, so am I at the top.
You're at the top of the You're at the top
of the heap. It has been great having you. I'm
so glad you're here with us. We are going to
have a great time with some of the guys from
Jones season, some of us the Golden Bachelorettes. We're gonna
(21:48):
have a great time. I'm so glad you hear. This
is going to create memories that you are not going
to forget. You never know, Sondra. Yeah, you're gonna learn
how to flirt.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You might find you're not going to get to know
about that's flirting. Is that flirting?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Flirting?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Always thought flirting was throwing your hair, winking, staring. I
assumed that that was flirting behavior. So maybe that's the words.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Do as I say, not as I do. Follow me, Sandra,
it's not flipping your hair. I'm gonna give you. I'm
gonna give you a lessons. We're gonnay the next time
we do a podcast, you're going to be telling the
world about all the men you met at the Pebble
Beach program. Thanks for joining me. I really enjoyed it.
(22:37):
Tune in to I Do Part two. Loved having you
and see you next time, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Thanks Kathy,
Welcome to I Do Part two, the podcast for people
that either didn't get love right the first time around,
are people that have loved and lost Sondra, I am
welcoming you tonight to this podcast from Carmel, California. Sandra
Mason from our season of Golden Bachelor. How are you
(00:40):
doing this evening, Sondra?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I am doing great for being midnight when it says
nine o'clock here.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, I heard Sandra's tired, but that's okay. So I
am on with Susan Knowles. We have the Golden Bachelor podcast.
It's under Bachelor Happy Hour and it's Golden Hour, and
I hope you all will tune in. But tonight this
is about all things love. So Sandra, I haven't seen
you in a while, and Part two, you may or
(01:12):
may not know, is all about finding love again. So
let's start back at the beginning. Tell me about your
first love, your family, tell me how we got to
where we are, because this podcast is all about finding
love again. And to get that, we need to know
where you came from.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Okay, first love as in when I was a young
young gul.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Well you know, maybe your husband, the father, your kids,
wherever you want to start. USh.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
God, I got married in nineteen sixty eight. Do the math.
It's about one hundred years ago. I have two daughters.
And that was love. We were in college. Boy, that
takes me back. We were in college and got married
before I graduated. He had graduated.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
So yeah, and how old are your kids now?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Fifty two and almost forty?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
How old are you? Seventy six and a half.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And I count them, So you're going to be soon
be seventy seven in July. All right, well, you know,
happy half birthday there, Thank you, ma'am. Okay, so tell
me you know you've had an amazing week. I'm just
going to jump in here. Your photograph with c K,
(02:33):
that is Charles K went viral. Tell me about that, Like,
did you have any idea that it would go viral?
What were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, I didn't. We were just having fun and taking
pictures and kind of yacking it up. And we were
at the restaurant and folks were saying, yeah, let us
take the pictures for you, because in two old people
trying to figure out how to hold cant the phone
up high and get the light. And so are you
(03:06):
talking to him?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Are you dating? Him. Come on, give us the school
that's going on.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Okay, we lived three thousand miles apart, so it's not
exactly dating. We're kind of like phone piles or pin pals.
So but unfortunately, well unfortunately we do live that far apart.
And the second unfortunately is that he has an opportunity.
His company is sending him to Cape Town, South Africa shortly.
(03:32):
I guess his first trip there will be March.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So there's that makes flirting long distance in issue.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, that's a brand new talent. I'll have to develop something.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So wait, are you thinking like you flirting? Are you interested?
Tell me what you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Oh, I'm interested. I don't know if he is or not.
I can't speak for him, but as a matter of fact,
I was telling him that when it was Jones Limo night,
he was the one gentleman that I honed in on
when he walked out of the limo. Really, yeah, he
was the one, and just coincidentally, I've met it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So wait, let me he lives in right now, He
lives in California and you live in Atlanta. So was
he there?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
On? Where were you?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Where was the where were those pictures taken?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Oh? Oh, I came out here years for the Rose
Bowl Parade, and he and I had been talking, uh
chatting on the phone. Matter of fact, he had gone
to Atlanta for business and we were supposed to have
dinner one evening and I wound up in the hospital. Yeah,
this was supposed uh ton selectomy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And how are you feeling now?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I'm a lot better?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Okay, good. We're glad to hear that.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I haven't had a cold and I haven't had a
throw you know what.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I've had your cold, bronchitis, I've had it all. But
I'm good now. So hold on, So you came out here,
did you reach out to him to have dinner?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, because I owed him. I thought I owed him
from when I owed stood him up in Atlanta and intantly.
But so I told him I was coming up for
the parade, and we agreed to meet and got to dinner.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay, and was it everything? I mean, come on, give.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
We had great conversation. He's he's he's funny. We were
funny together. We just we had just great conversation, telling
jokes and and just learning who each other is. Uh,
learning about his past and shared mine with him, and
we just yucked it up. It was just a lot
(05:32):
of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I can't tell. I can't tell if it's if he's
the friend zone.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Well, yeah, he would have to be. Again, we're three
thousand miles so.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I mean, I'll travel anywhere for love, Saunders say, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, I won't. I don't think he would either. You
know he's got Hey, I always look at it this wave.
I'm interested in the guy. Other people are interested in
that same guy. So it's not like I can.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Don't you think you're I mean, come on, aren't you
first in line?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I don't know. I haven't asked, all right.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
So so for those of you who don't know, we're
all out here having a fabulous weekend in Carmel, and
we're here for the Pebble Beach pro am, and I
do I need to tell you how many available men
are going to be on that golf course.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Tell me there's gonna be a lot. Okay, So my
question for you is, what do you think? Are you
going to be flirting with some other guys you're gonna
be looking? Are you gonna because you know c K
is here?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes? Yes? Have you seen him?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Man? I know?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Well, I know we're supposed to have a podcast tomorrow.
So have I seen him?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I just walked in.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Wait, what give me the school? I want the scoop, Sondra,
what's the scoop going to be on the podcast?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I have no idea?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Nope? Are you going? Are you going to ask him out?
You're going to try to like be his date while
you're here?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Come on, Kathy, you're asking me things I haven't even
thought about. I don't I don't know what to expect
to this entire weekend. So I know that some of
his castmates will be there, so he gets to reunite
with the guys.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's a golden reunion. Okay, Okay, so let me ask
you something. Are you dating at all? Other guys? Spell
(07:28):
you know, I'm going to ask.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
A gentleman in my local area that I've been talking with,
just talking and and and we've we've gone to dinner
a couple of times, and uh, I met a buddy
of his. So that's that's dating. That's prelim dating, I think, Sondra.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Help you know me? Well, you know I'm not letting
that one go. Are we kissing? Are we holding?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We have kissed?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So this is more than just a one time date.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh yeah, thus far, we've had two I call call
it to a half dates.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So, K, you're out in the cold, buddy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm just gonna Oh no, no, no, don't say that.
I'd be willing to bet mister has had since I've
met him, he's had several dates. He's a working guy too,
so his time maybe someone limited. I'm retired, so I
can I'm a little more flexible.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So are you dating more than one guy?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Not right now? Are you a one guy girl? Not necessarily,
but there's only one guy right now, right now, and
he lives in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
He lives in the Atlanta area.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Okay, So you know you and I are both in
the dating world now. And it's a different world, right,
I mean tell me, I can't remember. Are you divorced, right? Yes, divorced? Okay,
and you know my husband passed away, so it's a
little bit different. How do your kids feel about you dating?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Oh, they're excited for me, just like I've said before.
They are my cheerleaders. When I was on the Golden Batch,
they were my cheerleaders, and finding a guy is something
they want for me, just like I want that for them.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah. Yeah, Well are your kids with Do they have partners?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Actually? Yes, you know one got married, Yeah, I remember that.
The other one is dating a gentleman. So yeah, they're
doing great.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
So how do they feel like my kids? I'll be
honest with you. My kids don't like it when they
see me with the guy kissing them, holding hands PDA.
Uh uh kids that you'd have to ask them.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
But they want you to be a virgin till you die.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I think the virgin things sailed three children ago. Well, no,
you know what I mean, But no, I just think
it makes them uncomfortable. Your kids, how do you feel
about PDA? Like, are you going to hold hands in public?
Kids in public?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, if it comes to that, absolutely, I don't. I
don't have a problem with that at all. And I
don't think they would either. Yeah, they might. They might
kid my daughters.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So are you looking for serious the serious next guy?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I would think?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Really, are you ready to get like commit?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh? If it's the right man, I will commit. Now.
I'm not signing papers, that's what you're asking.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh wait, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It means I'm not getting married?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh? Well, I mean unless you want more children at
seventy six what.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
We could practice?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But yeah, So okay, so you're out here, you're gonna go?
Are you gonna be looking for guys out here?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I I hadn't thought about it. So what I hadn't
I didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I'm not okay, let me let me break the down.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You break it down, girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
There is going to be a pebblebeat pro am golf tournament.
There's gonna be a lot of golfers. There's gonna be
a lot of people watching the golfers. Men love golf. Yes,
I know, there's can be a lot of men out there. Okay,
are you gonna be searching? Do I have to fight you?
Do I have to fight you? No?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Of course not. You know, here's the thing. I'm not
a flirter. I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I don't believe that for one minute.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think the most effective way to approach men or
is just to talk, just to talk and be myself.
I'm the whole flirting thing. My god, I'm seventy six
years old at the I'm not flirting.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So how do you meet guys? I mean, what do
you do? You go up and talk to him? Talk?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, talk, about.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But here's the thing I do Part two. Right, We've
we've both been married before. We're looking for part two.
We're looking for our second happiness, right, second partner, second
person to spend our life with.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Right, well, could have been more than that. But okay,
I mean I've dated since right divorce. But no.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But I'm saying we're looking for that that person.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, are you?
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I mean I am.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I guess I'm looking. I'm not, see Kathy, I don't.
I'm not sure how to express this. I'm not out
looking and searching for a guy. It happens organically. I
bump into men, I meet men, friends, introduced me to guys.
But to say I'm out there with you know my
antenna up? No? No?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So okay, well, I think that's very fair. I mean,
you know me, I always say, guys aren't going to
come and knock on your door. You have to be
out there.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Let me be out there, out and about.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So are you good? If you're I mean, I have
to be honest. I would like to find that guy
to have my part two with, and I think you
would too. But it takes a lot of work.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Okay, I don't, I wouldn't call it work. I just
I don't know. Effort, effort, Okay, effort In other words,
like you said, you can't sit at home and expect
someone to knock on the door. You have to be
out and about, you have to be Do you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Know what I would do right now to have someone
knock on the door, just on this podcast here, that
knock and say, wow, he's here. I don't think it's happening.
Just it just passed my mind for a moment there.
But you know, I think I think a lot of
people thought that, you know, we would have a lot
of guys from jone season, uh, you know, hooking up
(12:59):
with us. I think the difference. I actually I was
going to ask you this. I think that I've talked
to a lot of the guys from Jones season and
they've had a lot of women reach out to them.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I'm not surprised at all.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm not either. Did you have a lot of guys
reach out to you on DMS when you came off
the show.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I'm not going to I don't think a lot is
an appropriate word. I've had several, but I don't know
what that's on.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Did you date any of them?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No, I've had converse phone conversations. The problem, Well, I
don't know if it's a problem. The gentlemen who have
reached out to me again are long distance from where
I am.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Are you willing to relocate?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Well, I don't know. It depends on who it is
and what the other circumstances in life. It's just in
my mind, it's difficult to date. It's difficult to get
to know someone. It's difficult to be spontaneous when someone
lives a plane ride away?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Okay, but wait, would you pick up? And I think
the difference between now and part two for me is
I meet the guy I'm interested in. He says, Hey,
you know, let me buy a ticket. Let's meet in London.
I'm going, okay, are you?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
It depends on It depends on who he is.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
What I mean, if I have to be interested.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right, yeah, if it's the right guy, I might do that.
And I've had a guy say to me whom I
really never met, just had half of a conversation with,
and he says, I want you to come out and
see you live in Chicago. I want you to come
see me and I'll pay your way. And how's that?
And I said, well, first of all, I can pay
my own way. If I'm going to come see you,
(14:41):
I'm paying my own way. And two, I gave him
the daughter test. Do you have a daughter? He said yes.
I said, if some man she never met said to her,
I'll pay your way, come see me, what would you
tell your daughter? And it stopped him and he said,
I understand. So I said, so look, if you want
to meet me, you come my way. You make that
(15:03):
effort first. I'm not gonna hop a plane come see
you just because you paid for it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And folks, therein lies the difference. If c K goes
to South Africa and asks me to come, I'm on
the next plane.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
But see, I've already mete K. I've met him. We've
had we've spent time together. We've on the phone, we've
had nose to nose.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
So I, I wait, did you kiss him?
Speaker 2 (15:27):
We kissed?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Is he a good kisser?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I think so. I think I think we matched well
in that department.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Listen to her. I'm telling you, getting stuff out of you,
Sundra's like pulling teeth.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Here's the thing, Kathy, I'm a very pragmatic person, very practical,
very pragmatic. So I'm not one who can read between
the lines very well.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
You're not going to jump off a cliff if if
you think I could be loved, you're not going to
take the risk.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well yeah, well that's what are you asking me.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I guess what I'm saying is you know, you see
you're pragmatic. Sometimes love, especially at our age, is just
jumping off a cliff saying I don't know, let's see
where it goes.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Okay, So are you talking about once you're in love
or getting toward love? I'm away? At what point are
you talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Saying I meet somebody and I think, well, maybe I'm
interested just taking the risk. It's you know, it's not
like you and I are gonna raise a family, have children,
So why not take a risk? You're retired? Why not?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well, I can take a risk, but I've got to
get to know someone I've got. There's got to be
some comfort level there that he is age appropriate, that
he has relationships, the family relationships that he has, that
he's financially stable. There are things that I that have
to be in place before I jump off a cliff. Okay,
(16:56):
So because I'm too practical.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, I was just going to say, that's that's very
that's not jumping off a cliff. That's getting all the
data walking step by stepped to the cliff, and which
is fine too, which is fine to Well, you know what.
It seems to have worked well for you so far.
(17:21):
Are you ready for the golf tournament tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think so. Yeah, it should be fun.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Are you a golfer? I used to golf. I've got
two sets of clubs in my garage.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Wait, you know how I talk about used to guys?
Are you a used to golfer? Mean?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I used to golf. I stopped about a year and
a half ago. I stopped just before we filmed on
the Batch because I had a little bit of a
car accident and jammed my thumb and it swelled up.
Went to the doctor and they x rayed both hands
and said, oh, by the way, you have arthritis and
both thumbs. Oh joy. Okay, so gripping sometimes is a
(17:59):
problem for me. So I haven't since the show. I
haven't really. I've gone out to the range. I haven't
gone out to the course.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
I can all right, Well, I'm going to be watching
you at this golf tournament I'm going to be seeing
who you make eye contact with. I'm going to be
seeing who floats your boat, who you're willing to walk
off the cliff for, who you're willing to walk up
and give a kiss to, who you're willing to walk
up to and start a conversation with.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Hey, I can do I can conversation.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah you can do that. Sure, Okay, now I might,
I might beat you to it.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Can I get some pointers from you because you seem
to be you know what?
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I I pointers on what how to meet.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
The guy, how to flirt, how to I mean turn off.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Here's here's what I do if I find someone that
is appealing to me. I think the biggest compliment you
can pay someone and show you're interested is to ask him,
in my case, ask him questions about himself. That's what
I do. I ask, and I use their name, so
(19:06):
you know, in your case, c K, tell me where
you know, tell me you're going to South Africa. Whatever
I ask using their name, look them in the eye,
ask some questions about themselves, because I think that puts
people at ease. But then, of course I'm waiting for
those people ask me questions as well. But I also
think sometimes just a smile, you know, making an eye contact.
(19:28):
It's not that hard. I do believe chemistry is you know,
it's it's at the forefront. Right you meet someone, you
either have chemistry you don't.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
See and I don't I don't see. I don't like
to be interviewed. I don't like men to come ask
me are you married? Or who are you here? With no,
So by the same token, I don't want to approach anyone. Well,
I'll talk to a guy and we'll chat about where
we are, what's going on, how's your game, where your buddy.
(20:00):
I'll talk about things that are would be common to
the environment, not necessarily go after him.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, but think about it, Sondra. You have to when
you meet someone, you have somebody has to say, hey,
how are you nice to meet you? Or you know,
oh you're a golfer. Oh you're here watching the golf tournament.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Oh yeah, that kind of conversation is great.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Well that's how you start.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, But when you say start asking him questions about
himself and use his name and that's fine, Well, I
don't know, I just maybe I've misunderstood what you were saying.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, Well, here's what I think, Sondra. Tomorrow, when you
and I go to the golf.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Tournament, are you going to give me some point?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
I want you to follow after me. We're gonna we're
gonna pick out the guy you're gonna show me, Kathy.
I like that guy, and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm
gonna make it happen for you.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You are, You're gonna tell him.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I'm gonna be a wing woman. I'm gonna be your
wing woman.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Lord of Mercy, I'm in trouble now.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
No, it's gonna it's gonna be great. You're gonna have guys,
you know, like a dance card. Your dance card is
gonna be full. These guys are all gonna be like,
I want her number. I want her number.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
But let me ask you this, Kathy. You say there's
going to be a swarm of men, won't there be
a lot of women as well?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah? I think I measure up. Do you measure up?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well? Yeah? I don't. Then don't trying to measure I'm
just saying.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Who cares? My point is who cares? Right, You're at
the top of the heaps, so am I at the top.
You're at the top of the You're at the top
of the heap. It has been great having you. I'm
so glad you're here with us. We are going to
have a great time with some of the guys from
Jones season, some of us the Golden Bachelorettes. We're gonna
(21:48):
have a great time. I'm so glad you hear. This
is going to create memories that you are not going
to forget. You never know, Sondra. Yeah, you're gonna learn
how to flirt.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You might find you're not going to get to know
about that's flirting. Is that flirting?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Flirting?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Always thought flirting was throwing your hair, winking, staring. I
assumed that that was flirting behavior. So maybe that's the words.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Do as I say, not as I do. Follow me, Sandra,
it's not flipping your hair. I'm gonna give you. I'm
gonna give you a lessons. We're gonnay the next time
we do a podcast, you're going to be telling the
world about all the men you met at the Pebble
Beach program. Thanks for joining me. I really enjoyed it.
(22:37):
Tune in to I Do Part two. Loved having you
and see you next time, all right.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Thanks Kathy,
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