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January 17, 2025 49 mins

There's nothing more painful than a broken bone, especially when you've put your all into training. Ali Manno joins Trista to discuss how her pesky broken finger derailed her “Special Forces” plans as she shares why that wasn’t even the toughest part of the competition. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey everybody, it's the almost famous The Ogs podcast. Bob
Guiney here joined by my lovely co host, the very
godmother of the Bachelor franchise, Trista Sutter, and today we
are very excited.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
We are joined.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's our Special Forces edition episodes, and we are joined
by a former Bachelor Nation superstar. I say Ali manno
neee Ftatowski in the spirit of how I say Trista
Sutter nay Wren.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
So we are so.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Excited to have Ali on.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I have personally not seen Ali since we did our
Was it US Weekly or People magazine?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
The Favorite Bachelors of All times? Spread?

Speaker 1 (00:49):
It was either US Weekly or Life and Style.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think it was US Weekly. Then, yeah, it was
a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I probably I probably could conjure up a copy and
I'll pop it up on the screen.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
But very excited.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm in the room that has all of the Bachelor
uh propaganda mem mesh that it just might be something
I could grab.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
But we're very excited.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Ali came onto Special Forces with a force, no puns intended,
and we are very excited to have her on. So
let's bring her in ladies and gentlemen, Ali Mano, Nay Fedatowski,
Hi Alli.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Thcom, Thanks, how are you great?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Now to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
We're so excited to have you. We've been I think,
you know, but we've been talking to some of the
recruits and we got to talk to Q earlier. This week,
I'm going to be talking to Rudy, Bob, I thank you. Well,
maybe you can't be there, but Rudy and Billy will
be on. So we're trying to get, you know, everybody

(01:56):
to come on and talk about the experience because it
was you know, very I don't know what would you say,
intense and so, but what I want to get to
initially is that I, you know, everyone wants to know
I feel like and I want you to be able

(02:20):
to explain what happened in your experience when you had
to leave the show, because you, as with me, as
with everything, you only get to see like a teeny
tiny part of what actually went down. And so I
want you to be able to share your truth and
talk about your exit on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I don't know what you guys have talked about so
far on here, but like the it's just so mind
boggling and just saying, no, you get this so much,
how little like they show and how easy it looks.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
As a viewer, like totally I remember watching.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Not easy, but I remember watching like the first season
in the second season and being like, why are they
like crying like it's there's not that hard now, And
then now that I've done it now, I'm like, oh
my gosh, you see nothing right, Like you know, we'll
get to the finger thing, but like the bee hive
when we were in that pool treading water. The way

(03:24):
I described that to like my husband Kevin and my
friends when I got home was like, it was so terrifying.
It was the scariest moment of my life. I thought
I was going to drown. I thought other people were
going to drown. It was so physically hard. And when
I watched it back, I was like, that looked like
nothing and it was so horrible, And so yeah, I

(03:46):
want people, I guess like when they're watching, to keep
in mind, like you keep seeing people like I noticed
on the show, like Landon Donovan. You know a professional
soccer player who's like clearly had some very physically grueling
things in his life, right, He's like, after we swam from.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
The boat to shore. He's like, it's not gonna get
harder than that, right, get harder than that?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
And that was and you know.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Minutes we were there. So yeah, I guess everyone watching
just like, keep in mind the show is so much
harder than it looks. I guess to say.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
That, but I will say this, I think it looked
pretty damn hard. I was watching that first episode, and
obviously you know, I don't I don't talk to you
Ali as much as I talked to Trista.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
We haven't talked in a few years.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
But I know you, you know, and I feel like I
know you, and I'm watching the show and I'm watching
these people go through this stuff, and I'm just like
blown away at you guys challenging yourself like this, stepping
up to the plate and delivering.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
And Ali, you, I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh my god, you looked like you were gonna literally
you could have taken down Cam Newton in a given
second if you want to.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
You look so strong she was.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
When they sent me home, I was like, who do
I need to fight? Like, I don't care how broke
in my hand.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I was like, I was like putting me in part
of Camp Newon, like that's how I got so first,
thank you for saying that.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
You look so fit.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Absolutely, and I wanted to say this too real quick.
What a difference between watching and again, we've interviewed him.
So I don't mean this in a bad way, but
interviewing Stephen Baldwin, you know, in the way that he
left the show and then you're like, no, I'm not going,
you know. And so I'm so excited to see where
they pick up because I don't feel like they've I
feel like they teased you leaving.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm assuming you know.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
No, I'm gone. I mean, that's it.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
And you know, I'm just gonna say I actually left
the morning of the third day. I didn't relieve the
night of the second day. So it's a little confusing
on the show. I think like for editing purposes, they
just probably needed, like you know, to end the show
on like someone going or something.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
But I did. I did spend two nights there, no.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
One for sure for me. Yes, no, you can't take
away from that for sure. Ye say it, speak it.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
I said to the producers.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
I was pretty I was very upset the next morning.
I was upset with the medic I was upset with
the producers. I was upset all around, right sure when
I was up, So what happened?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
I actually don't know exactly when I hurt my finger.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I always up until basically I rewatched the episode last
night with my girlfriend who was out of town when
it aired. She wanted to watch with me, and that
was the first time I realized, Oh, did I hurt
my finger on the drop on the bridge? When I
was trying to crank like the thing the blet to
get me down? Mine was like twisted and upside down

(06:42):
like something weird happened, Like I don't know if they
do it on purpose where they put some people's carabineer
hooks on upside down and backwards. Mine were mine were
not right when I fell down, So I remember like
squeezing so hard. I'm like, so, did I hurt my
finger on the drop down or did I hurt it
trying to.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Get myself down? I actually don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
I just know what happened on that sometime during that
challenge on the bridge.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
And I had a really.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I hate gloves kidding, I had some bad luck with
gloves on the show.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
The helicopter challenge.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
They gave me two left hand gloves, so one side
was like leather, on the other side had actual grip.
So that's why I couldn't like hold on once I
got up there.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
My hand clipping.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
When we got our burgins, my are rucksacks or burgins.
My burgin didn't have an one glove, so I was
down a glove. So it was two glove issues on
the show. And then the third glove issue was on
the second challenge where everyone had like, Trista, your gloves
they were like fitted black gloves.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Right, they weren't fitted. I mean, my hands are super small,
but still.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
But everyone said like or most people who I spoke
to said like, oh my gosh, no I had.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Like new black gloves.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Good.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Well mine were like these like really old, crink brown,
way too big for my hands gloves.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
So what happened when I come down? You see me
walk up to the other recruits.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
And go like this, And that's because all my fingers
had fallen out of the gloves for the drop. So
that's what I thought the thing happened. So the medic
basically thought I went. Actually I never went to see him,
so the medic was coming in to check on people.
Poor Trista. I mean, you don't see this had a hypothermia.
I know it was so cold. Marion had hypothermia. Kyla

(08:30):
had a hypothermia and low blood blood sugar. We were
taking care of her in the barracks. Kyla didn't know
her name, she couldn't remember.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Who she was.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
There was some like really scary stuff going on, and
I had the issue. I did not go to the
medic He came to like our barracks, and all I
said to him was like, I busted my finger. Can
I have somebody tape and some ivyprofn Like I just
wanted some ibuprofne because I knew I needed to get
the swallow under control. And he looks at it and
he goes come with me too, because I would have

(09:02):
hit it from him, Like I just I literally felt
like oh just a little little yeah, no big deal.
Like I went and did the Navy seal training. I
had put one hundred pound logs over my head. I
ran back and helped other people with their logs, like
I was not going home. And then he took me
in a thing that night night at night too, and
he's like, look you, there's a worst case scenario. I'm

(09:26):
gonna have to medically withdraw you. And I was like,
oh my gosh, no, please, please, please don't. And he's like,
best case scenario, it's just a sprain. He's like, I'll
look at it in the morning and we'll make a
decision then.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
So I go to bed that night.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
I'm very upset at the thought of even getting medically withdrawn.
But I go to bed that night, you know, have
a horrible night's sleep, like we all do. What is
it two hours that we get I.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Mean, it's totally nothing.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
And so then they wake us up with like a
barrel in the room of putting firecrackers in it, so
it sounds like gunshots.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Oh gosh, it's terrifying.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
I mean, you know, Tristy, we woke up that morning
in a really rough mindset.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
It's horrible.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
So then at that point they call us we have
to pack our bags really quick, and I'm taking my
bad hand and I'm punching my bag down to try
to waterproof it and all this stuff and running around
and we go out on like the parade square and
Rudy goes number four to the medic And that's when
I went into the medic that morning and they were like,
and the medic wasn't there. It was just one of

(10:28):
the DS, and he said, we're medically withdrawing you. And
I was so pissed off. I started punching the table.
You don't see it because I don't show it, but
I'm punching the table saying I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine.
And the medical I'm like, where's the medic and he's like,
the Medic's not here yet.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I'm like, so you're telling me the medic wasn't even
gonna look at it again.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I was so mad because not only did I
spend another night there when I didn't have, but I
just I wanted the medic to look at it. I
knew it, I knew I felt in my heart it
was broken and like it was okay.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
I just needed some tape and some might be broken. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, and it already had looked a little better in
my opinion that morning. But yeah, Ultimately they said he
was like, there's nothing we can do, like for like
this show.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
People can really get hurt on this show. It's intense.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Like I don't filming in America because I honestly don't
think it's legal to film here what they do.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, well you know you see you see that when
they're showing like you like all you know, pissed in
the in the medical room and everything. Then they go
to you know this season on you know, Special Forces,
and you see you doing sit ups in the water
with the log. But you see that, you you know,
and I was like, that's why. I was like, no,
she must not go home. They must be just like

(11:45):
baiting us, like you know, and and I was. I
was so bummed when I found out that you did
go home because I could tell you had the drive
and you were you had physically prepared, and you know,
that was that was tough to watch when it's you know,
when you got your little vested interest. I I got
my best at interest in two people on that show.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Man like let's go.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know. It's just I we had a big legacy
to fulfill, and I was like, this legacy really.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Did not achieve that goal. So I have to give
a little background. So, as Ali said, I haven't talked
a lot about the hypothermia on here, but the hypothermia
definitely got me. We talked earlier to Christy and she
reminded me that I was turning blue and lethargic and
all of these things, and it was really freaking scary.

(12:35):
And finally get back to the barracks where everyone was,
I was like delayed. Everyone was already taking showers and
eating and all this stuff, and I'm just like, you know,
moving along like a teeny little inchworm. And I get
to the medic told me to go warm up and
get some food, and so I walked into the warming
room and it's got three little stoves, and I just

(12:57):
like there were a bunch of people, including Allie, and
and I was like, I'm not even gonna talk to anyone.
I'm just going next to the stove. I was facing
the wall, like I just wanted to. You can't be
by yourself anywhere, like you just you basically can't, like
you're with at least one person all the time. You
have to be And I was like, this is my

(13:18):
way of just being by myself and just getting right
with my thoughts and getting warm. And I'm like, I'm
not gonna bother anybody. I'm already feeling like a burden.
And Allie was like, I hear you go, is that Trista?
And she came and sat next to me and we
just talked about what was going on. Foxy actually came in,

(13:39):
which Alli was like, Okay, I feel like I'm really
honored to be sitting next to you because they don't
come in the warming room like they're not opposed to.
And I was like, that's really sweet that he came
in to check on me. She went and got me
food like she was my caretaker. So thank you, Allie
for taking care of me. It meant a lot. And

(14:00):
then I went to bed after I had a mirror
room interview that they don't show, and then I went
to sleep and just was kind of at peace, and
we all wake up to the explosions going off, and
at that point, you know, I can talk about this later,
but at that point I was just like, okay, it's
my time. And Ali was still in it. She was

(14:22):
running around like getting like all everybody, all the recruits
were running around like crazy because you have like five
minutes to make sure that you have your your ruck packed,
your water is full, your you've got, you know, everything
that you need from the warming room if there's anything warm,
and so everyone was running around like chickens with their
heads cut off, like it was it was chaos.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
And what people don't realize in those moments is that
we have a wet working suit, like so working gear,
and we have dry gear. So anytime we're in our
dry gear like what we sleep in, and they're like
out here in five minutes, you're like, oh, five minutes,
that's that's a long time, ny time. We have to
completely change and it's a lot like bill you know, fleece, undershirt, pants, sap.

(15:08):
You have to switch out everything.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
So it's stressful, right, and and everyone was doing it
at the same time. So everyone has their stuff in
the warming room and it's like there's three racks, like
it's not a huge room and there's only three like
stove things, so you want your stuff close to the stove.
But Ali, I still I lost a pair of like

(15:30):
you know how you wear those biker shorts underneath. I
brought like biker shorts. I still they they couldn't find them.
I left them there. They got mixed up. I think
someone grabbed mine and I ended up with somebody else's.
So you're trying to get your clothes and like everyone's
scattered everywhere and it's not like it's labeled. It's all
the same. It looks all the same, and then.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
You're so paled because someone steals your sock and you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
No way, it's chaotic. It's hey yos like and that
morning was chaos. But she went out like I was
saying my goodbyes and handing like I think I gave
my watch to cam and my pillow to somebody, and
I think socks to somebody and a snack to land
in and and she's running around and still doing this,

(16:17):
and I felt bad because I was like, I'm so
at peace, and she was like, no, I don't want
to leave. This is not fair, And it wasn't. It
really wasn't. I feel like, you know, they do pull
you for medical reasons, and seeing your finger afterwards, you know,
like you should just shared a picture of how swollen
it was. Denise and I had both we were at

(16:38):
the hotel and we called Ali when we afterwards, and
we were just trying to talk you through being like
we just heard that they fought today, So can you
even imagine your finger could have been permanently damaged? So
we're trying to like get her through it, but I can't.
I can't imagine that, Like frustration because you worked so

(17:02):
so hard leading up to it and then to be
taken out by what was like you didn't even want
to tell them, you know, because it was your finger.
I don't know. It's frustrating.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
So when they pulled me out, I saw Triss outside
right like we like saw each other for a minute,
and I.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Was so mad, Like trist Is all like, oh, I
just said peace.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Yeah, and I'm like, so I punched a steel door
at that point, a steel door with my bad hand
because I was trying to the producers.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
I was okay, so my mid was broken. I'm like,
I think I might have broken it at this point.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Oh maybe that's why I was so swollen. It wasn't
from the damage from before.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
I think it got worse.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
I was so mad and the producers this is a
thing I will say. They felt so bad for me,
and they just kept saying they're like, Ali, we feel horrible,
like the ds even did, Like DSQ reached out to
me after. He's like, we really thought you were going
to make it far, like the D like he said
all of us like really thought you could make it
to the end.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
Like we're so sorry.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
And that meant a lot to me like him reaching
out and saying that gave me a lot of validation
that I think I needed, But the producers just kept saying.
I was like, look, I'm fine, and even after I
went to a welshy ar, they took me right to
emergency room because they wanted it, like that was in
my contract that like they tell me you got to go,
you got to go. And so after it ended up

(18:24):
not being broken, the producers then still were like back
at the hotel, they're all like, we're so sorry, We're
so sorry.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
But the way it works, once the.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Medic says you have to go, there's nothing the producers
can do. So it doesn't matter if they want you
to say. If the medic says you have to leave,
you have to leave. And that's in place, from what
I understand, for insurance purposes, this show had not get
insured because it's so dangerous. They follow like extremely strict

(18:55):
safety protocols, and one of those safety protocols is the
medic and the medics decisions. So given that I know
there was like nobody had a choice, I'm still a
little bit mad at the medic for not coming the
next morning and looking at it again, right.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
I think it's because we woke up at like five
am that morning and went to bed at three, and
he went to bed at like three to two. The
medic Like, that's the last time I saw him was
at like two am. So I'm guessing he like didn't
want to have an early call time at.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Five am before.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
It was in his contract to get like a five
hour sleep night or something, you know exactly.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
But I was so heated.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Like most people go back to the hotel and shower
and sleep forever. I went back, showered and immediately got
on a train to London and then an airplane home
to la.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Oh my gosh, you were just done, I was.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I would like, get me so upset. I was like,
but I mean, I don't know, I'm like begging.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
The producers to do a redemption season. I want a
redemption season. I want another chance.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
If they do one and they don't include me, there's
to be words.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Well, you are so scrappy. I love it.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I you know, I've always loved your personality, but I've
never seen this side of it where you're just like
a scrapper man.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I think that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Most people would have probably been like, oh, thank god,
I'm out of here, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
I mean I probably would have been like that.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
I would do it again, not on TV, not get paid,
and just do it to do it like that's I
wanted the experience like I really wanted. And look like
just a I'm ten years younger than you, right, Someone
ten years younger than me is going to have a
different experience someone ten years younger than Like I know,

(20:39):
at forty, I cannot do what I did at thirty.
So I don't want to undermine in any way in
this conversation what you completed for yourself. Like, look, in
ten years, I'm not doing this, like I commend you
so much.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
For doing you like you.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's like my body just isn't what it was when
I was thirty, you know, And I'm sure you will
say to me, my body is what it was when
I was, you know, like you don't know like you're
there were you know the O g's for a reason.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Like our parts exactly.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, but you know it's so for me, like I
just I really felt I was at the best shape
of my life. I know from here it's only you know,
going to be harder to get in the shape.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
No, no, keep up your hard work.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
I know that's the one thing I did get from
the show.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
I will say, like I'm obsessed with like physical fitness now,
like I love pushing my body to the limit. And
that's just not who I was before. I used to
work out like painstakingly before because like I wanted.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
To look good. You know, it was panity.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I was like, I want to I want to look
good at my jeans, so I'm going to do squats.
Whereas now I'm like, I want to do squats because
I want to see how I want to do a
thousand squats and you know, ten minutes, can I do it?
Let's see, Like now my mindset has changed, like like
I have a pull up bar in my bathroom door
and my bedroom or am I bathroom that I had

(22:02):
there for the show because every time I walk into
my bathroom, I would like try to do some pull ups,
and I kept it there since the show because now
it's like I just randomly woild jump up on it
and like work on pull ups and like I love
that that, like love of fitness has stayed with me.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
So I'm grateful.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's awesome. You know, I think it was crazy, was
you know.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Trista had told me she's like, oh my god, wait
till you see Ali on the show.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
She's ripped, and it was like it was you could
definitely tell that.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
I mean, even when you guys were standing on parade
and I don't know why I noticed this, at one point.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
There was like a side like swiping shot.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I think you guys were outside even maybe and you
were called to attention. You're all staying there, and you
were like rigid and like you were in it to
win it.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
You could tell, you know, I remember that ang like,
oh my god, Allie's like great to kill somebody out there.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
You were like, you know, I remember the whole sweeping shot,
and I was like, oh, you know, and it's just
crara easy because you know, I feel like I know
everyone on that show, even though I've never met ninety
percent of them, and you can see that they're tired
at least maybe in the way that ith you didn't
even look You didn't even look tired to me, like
you looked like you were as you're ready to climb
another mountain. Let's go, you know, I'll do this, I mean,

(23:19):
And that had to feel so good because you know,
you're being pushed to the brink of your of your
physical and your mental capabilities.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
It had to feel so good knowing.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
That, Okay, they're not going to get me from the
physical side of thanks cause I'm doing it right.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
I mean, you had to feel that confidence.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I would think, thank you so much for saying that,
for you're welcome, that like means so much to me.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Yeah, I I could, Like when we were in the
water and people were getting hypothermia, like I wasn't even
shivering half the time because I.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Had trained in a thirty three degree coal plunge every
single day months, Like I was my body.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
I can't even explain to you, like what a machine.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
And it was at that point in my life, like
I'm not even close right now to where I was
then because of how I had trained, and I felt
so strong, Like you don't see but that that pool
episode where we're all in the pool doing the beehive,
everyone but five people went to the edge at some point,
right like because it was so difficult.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
The people that didn't go to the edge was the Olympic.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Swimmer, the professional surfer Rody Jenner, who's essentially a professional
surfer like he served time. Christy Romano, which good for her.
She she kicked so hard she kicked a boot off
one of her book she did I didn't know, Oh
my gosh, what which I think ended up helping her
because she had one boot off then because those boots

(24:44):
when they can read.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Ready, Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
That person was me.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
I never left that And I can't even swim. I'm
a horrible swimmer. Like I just I really, I just
can't explain to you, like how you're like, thank you
for what you said.

Speaker 5 (25:01):
And yes, I was in the top of life. I
was at that.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
I was always in the front of the pack when
we were running. I just I was there. I always
said like like I joked after, I was like, could
someone just have Ronnie locked my finger?

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Like, I don't know if you know Ronnie Lock.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Football player who had his finger like cut off mid
football game.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
It's actually my friend's dad.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Funny enough, no way, yeah, yeah, you know, I don't
know if you know my friend Willa, but Willa her yeah, yeah, yeah,
her husband is Ronnie Luck's son.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Oh my gosh, that so funny.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
But I'm like, why didn't they just Ronnie lock me
just cut it off? I wanted to say, and.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I wanted to be there so bad in the moment,
I was like willing to sacrifice my finger to say.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Like that's how I felt. Wow, I was like I
was crazy person.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
No, I don't think you're crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
No, I don't either. I think like Trista says, she
was driven too. I mean, you guys were just in
a different mind space.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's just it's just a goal. And when you're there,
if you truly want to be there, then you want
to be there. Like it's it's like, you know, you
want to go until the end. There. You know, there
are certain people who do this show in the past whatever,
and I feel like they just they come and they're like, Okay,
I need to stay for five minutes to collect my
paycheck and then I'm fine to go. But you know,

(26:26):
like you clearly clearly had a purpose and a goal
to get to the end, and to have that taken
away it's hard.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
I would have given then my paycheck. I literally would
have been like, take all the money you're paying me
to be here and let me say. Wow, I love
that it was about.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Something that's saying something. Yeah, No, I totally get that.
What was the hardest moment, Well, never mind, we already
answered that what the hardest moment was maybe take away
the the finger in your exit. Prior to that, what
was the hardest moment for you?

Speaker 5 (27:00):
It was the living conditions? Ah yeah, what I also
don't think people.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
I think we, out of all the seasons, got completely
screwed with living quarters.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
Our everything once smelled like manure.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Everything, Like I remember being in like the cars and
smelling my fleece and it just being manure.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Did you smell the manure? Twists up? Because Golden Tage
told me he didn't smell the manure. I'm like, that's
all I smelled.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I mean a little bit. But I really truly think
that this is because you're smelling it, because it was
put in your mind, because didn't a producer tell you,
like right before that our room had been full of
two feet of manure, like two weeks before me after
Oh okay, I'm like, well, maybe it was in your
head because it was planted there.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Maybe I have a good sense of smell because it
was like I remember pulling up to the place and
smelling the.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Fields around it just be like, oh my gosh, it's
so bad. And then like I remember just smelling it
all over my clothes.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
And yeah, the living quarters we lived in, the producers
told me when we left it had had pun piled
high two.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
Feet from animals living in there two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
I believe somebody didn't go home with some sort of like.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Bacterial I agree, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
And like when we got home from that Navy seal training,
which looked like it was fifteen minutes on the show,
but it was literally like two plus hours of intense
training basically waterboarding is what it felt like when they
put us.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Back in that water. They After that, we go back.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
And I was the first one to shower, and I
remember thinking, like, yay, I get to be the first
one to shower, but I so badly wish I was
the last, because what happened is I get in there
and everyone wants to get in. So I think I
had thirty seconds I came out, I still had clumps
of sand all in my hair.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Oh no, barely coming out. I didn't even get to
rinse off.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Really, I was so covered, like, and what I didn't
realize is that people were jumping in the pig trough
to rinse off first and so there's like a pig
trough there which smells and is disgusting, where they had
everybody jump in with their manure boots and then you're
supposed to jump in after them to wash off.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I mean, it was Bob's face.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
In the toilets.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Oh my gosh, the toilets. We have to talk about those,
so I always, oh, they're porta potties. Yeah, they're gross.
That sucks that, like people are watching you pooh and
pee and like whatever, and not that anyone even can
go poop on the show. I mean it's I definitely
didn't in the days I was there, but I've heard
that people don't the whole ten days because it's just

(29:44):
so horrible.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
But the seats were like splintered wood. It wasn't even
like nice wood.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
It was like it was plywood plywood.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
It was all splintered.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Like I remember being like, I can't even hit on
this with sand all over it and dirt, and I.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Think they must have had like the farmers that owned
the farm.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
We were on using them for like a month before
we got there, because they were.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
Very very hute. That first day, weren't they dressed up?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, it was not it was not like, you know,
it's not the fantasy world a Bachelor and Bachelorette.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Those porta potties made a ported potty on July fourth
in the middle of Times Square look like a five
star bath.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I was literally just gonna say, a porta potty is
way better, Like, you know, those were Yeah, they left
something to be desired, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
I love that they've been like using them before you
guys even got there.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I'm sure. I mean, because this was like a working farm.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, I remember looking at it and being like, where
did all this poop and pecome from? Like what?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
It was? No kidding, God forbid they dig a fresh
hole of you guys.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
You know, it is forbid.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Even when there's like downtime, people are talking for two seconds.
It's like two seconds, so you're getting information and then
you're filling up your water bottle, and then you're making
sure your bergen's packed, and then you're switching at your
gear and making your stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
It was just never a moment, right, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
It was crazy, but I want to do it again.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
I want to do it again. So this experience, obviously,
I know, being in Bachelor Bachelorette, like having the world
of social media. You know, people are not always nice,

(31:40):
and I know that in times. You talked recently on
Caitlyn's podcast about your experience with Ellen and feeling like
she was laughing at you instead of laughing with you,
and kind of that she made you feel stupid. And
then after this show, I'm wondering, like, I know, you know,
Ellen's not on anymore and you're not we're not necessarily

(32:04):
doing like those big talk show interviews. But how has
the response been. I mean, you can talk talk about
Ellen and that experience too, if you want to elaborate out.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Of proportion too, by the way, like the media picks
that and like, you know, I saw an article like
Ellen doesn't plan to apologize to Allie, which was like,
so stop, really it was some random article that some
I'm sure some random person like told that story.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Ellen hasn't Ellen doesn't care about me, like this is
not on her radar, Like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Ellen, Ellen's I feel horrible that I even re brought
up that like drama for her, because she's been through
enough in my opinion, Like I feel for Ellen, actually,
but yes, I didn't have the best time, but I
didn't know making that like one comment was.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Gonna like blow right.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry because I
I feel like sometimes on the meat with the media
stuff and you know the Tressan Bob you too, like
things can just be blown out of proportion or like
people can be dragged through the mud and it's it's horrible.
It causes you stress at home, and.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Like, yeah, and that blew up.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
I was like, I really hope Ellen doesn't know about this,
because I don't want to be another person causing her.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Pain, you know what I mean, So like, yeah, that
that happened.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
But but yeah, I mean with this, honestly, everything's been
pretty positive. I mean I try to avoid Reddit, like
the plague. I'm sure there's negative stuff on there, but
I don't go on there. I accidentally went on there
a while back, Like I someone asked me for like

(33:49):
my Instagram like Instagram website URL, and so I'm like, oh,
I know my handles ali dot mano, but let me
go look like let me couid. I didn't know if
it was like http dot w yeah, copy and paste
my Instagram. So I typed in Ali mano and I
was going to type in Instagram, So it just like

(34:09):
went to my Instagram on the computer, so I copy
and paste my URL.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
And email it to somebody. And when I did that,
like Alimano weight loss.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Popped up, because that was like a thing because people
are like, how did you lose all this weight? Because
they didn't know I was training for Special Forces, So
there was all these like whatever, and so I like
clicked on it because I was curious. I was like, oh,
this is like one of the top things people are
searching about me. And then like these Reddit threads come
up and I clicked on one, and I will never
do it again. I will never ever ever credit thread

(34:37):
about me ever again. That the hate on Reddit is
so just horrendous, Like I feel one horrible for anyone
who's there's a thread about on there because they're like
almost all negative.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
I would I mean maybe not, yes, one's about me.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Us.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I don't think it's just you. It's definitely not like
the I.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Mean, it's just it's just such a negative spot of
the internet. So I'm avoiding that. I assume that there's
a lot of and I actually think when I tapped
on that thread, there was like one comment that said
something like oh, yeah, she's I know she's doing Special Forces,
because it was like people knew before you know, yeah,
we're on it, and someone's like, oh, I bet she

(35:22):
goes home injured, and I at that point had already
known I went home injured.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
So I was like, like.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Like I made me feel sad about myself and then
I was so unhealthy, like I will never ever ever
go on read a thread about me ever again. Yeah,
because it just it hurts your soul. And I know
I'm a good person. I actually think that I got
a really good edit. I'm Special Forces.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
Good.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
I feel like like I was worried that they were
only going to show me like crying about falling off
the bridge when I was upset about that, like such
a whim.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
I was so strong and people see that.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
And I actually think that people did see how strong
I felt and like I take care of others, and
like I was happy that that part was shown.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
I guess, yeah, I think it definitely was.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
I was upset that, like I felt that I didn't.
I was upset that your struggle wasn't shown in the
way that, like I felt.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
That deserved to be shown, because thank you.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
There was such a vulnerability that you showed on the show,
and it like those conversations I had with you. I
remember being in the warming room and talking to you,
and you were really beating yourself up in those like
you really and I remember them when the DS came
in and they were worried about you, Like I said

(36:45):
to him, like, see, like they care about you. And
then you know, and like I just thought that vulnerability
you had and you were opening up about how you felt,
like I thought that that would resonate with so many people,
and I was.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
So upset that they didn't show that.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
And you know, they can't show up everything, but like,
how do you feel about your journey?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's hard because you know you saw me that day
when we both left, when we were doing like our
exit interviews. I was so at peace, like I truly
was just a piece came over me that morning. And
I've told people this that before we went on, the
night before I saw the number four four four, and

(37:24):
I love angel numbers, and I looked that up, like
what does four four four mean for angel numbers? And
it was like your guardian angels are watching over you.
And I went into it thinking, Okay, they're with me.
They're going to let me know, like you know, when
it's time or whatever. And I woke up that morning
and I just had this piece over me after being
able to have the mirror room interview, you know, and

(37:47):
kind of getting to that point and connecting with them
more on like a human level and sharing like who
I am really and knowing that they saw that I
was trying my hardest meant so much to me. So
when I went to bed that night for the two
or three hours that we slept, I was kind of like, Okay,
I'm just going to see how it goes in the morning,
like we're going to see what I wake up to.

(38:08):
And we woke up to explosions, and I was like, Okay,
I think I've learned, you know, enough from this. I've
gotten enough out of this experience. Yeah, exactly. It was
a sign. It was literally like, Okay, I think it's
time to get back to family. You have pushed your
body to the extreme and you survived and maybe the

(38:29):
next time you wouldn't, and so I think it's time.
So thank you for asking, because I do like I don't.
They didn't show me off the bridge, they didn't show
me like jumping to the helicopter. They didn't show a
lot of me, But that's not why I did the show,
you know. I did it because I wanted to challenge
myself have this once in a lifetime opportunity meet everybody
who did it with us.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
It's also like not about other people you do it,
like yeah, for me at least, like I needed to
see me jump off the bridge, I needed to see
me jump to Like for me, I wanted to see
what I went through, Like I I was so upset
when I wasn't seeing you. I remember thinking about you,
like we talked about this on the phone. I was

(39:11):
like I thought that like.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
You were not even going to see me.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
But I was so grateful that I got to see
some of my stuff for my own healing process and
to know I didn't.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
Like I want that raw footage.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
For you, like I want, like te me, I want,
I want to just have that to see and I
think it's part of the healing process and like the
journey is like to see it back of what you did.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
You know, so I think that's got to be hard
for you, like.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Not yeah, yeah, I would love that. I would love
the raw footage just for closure, just to be able
to show like I really did do this, like to
remind myself, I really did do that and I and
I did pretty well. I felt like in those moments,
you know, you said in the Beehive that you guys
were the five or whatever, and I literally went to
the wall like seconds before I think it was like

(40:01):
three four five seconds before they ended. So I really
surprised myself in that the bungee jump. I never thought
I would ever bungee jump, just because of my back problems,
and I did that and almost passed except for my
stupid grunt that I made, you know, so like, yeah,
I really would love to see their off footage, but

(40:22):
it is what it is. And you know, like I
told you at you know, when you were having a
hard time after the exit, was there's a reason. Like
we don't know the reason now and maybe we'll never know,
but I feel like there were reasons that our journeys
were what they were on this show, and I know
you feel the same way. I feel so grateful for

(40:44):
just the opportunity to have done it, you know.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Absolutely one hundred percent grateful for the opportunity.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
I do think there's a chance if I had stayed.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
That I would have permanently damaged my hand, like the
fact that they were by being that night.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
And that's what the medic, you know, basically said. He
wrote me this letter.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
And the letter said, well, it was a letter for
my doctor in Nashville because I went to a hand
surgeon when.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
I got back here.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
But it basically said, like my fear for you, if
you had stayed and punched someone with that hand, you
would lose permanent function of your hand, like.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Nerve damage or whatever.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Like and to this day like this, So this is
the finger that I happened to and I can't put
my ring over this finger anymore. So like my knuckle, Yeah,
it's something's messed up in my finger. If I if
I push on this knuckle, it hurts. So it is
there is permanent damage. It's not like anything to worry
about it. I can still I have function in my hand.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
I'm fine. But there, you.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Know, I understand now why the medic did what he did.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Yeah, I just wish I had the rights.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
The short end of the stick. With all the glove issues, man,
it can be a.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Glove endorsement.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Brims, so it can be like tired of gloves not
fitting well.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Try on these.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I'm tired of.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Try on these alley gloves made of real dealer.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
So I have a question for you.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
So I was reading about someone you just you just
told a story recently.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
We were laughing earlier.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
I was laughing earlier about how my son, my six
year old son, reacts to people knowing me from The Bachelor,
Like he has no idea what The Bachelor is, he's
never watched it. But like, we'll be at McDonald's playland
and trist I think I told you the story, but like,
I'll order, you know, two happy meals for him and
his little brother, and the little fourteen year old girl
will come over to deliver the tray and he'll be like,

(42:44):
he's the Bachelor.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
He'll sign it for you. What do you want? Yeah,
he'll get a picture.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I'm like, he's in the playland, like he's yelling from
the top of the playland.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I saw a.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Really funny story about you and your son with respect
to him talking to Alexa.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Can you share that with us?

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Yeah? So well, I posted this on TikTok a while back.
It's like my one TikTok that's going viral. I'm too
old to understand the talk. Same ye in my son Riley,
he's six, I think he was five at the time.
Maybe he went over to Alexa and he's like, let's say,
show me a picture of mommy.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
You know, nothing comes up. Alexa, show me a picture
of Ali man Ou nothing comes up.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
And then I think Molly, my daughter said something like
say Ali the bachelorette. And because my daughter's eight, she
knows that I was a bachelorette. She understands now. So
he's like Ali the becherette, and this picture of like
me and Roberto pops up, like right off the engage.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
He's like, what's that.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
It's like when your six year old son discovers your
on reality Oh my gosh, oh yeah, but now they
so and then the funny bar in the clip. My
husband Kevin then goes up to Alexa and goes and
plugs in and it's like, all right, kids, say bye
to Alexa. And the funny thing is now my kids
know that like oaking Lee, that that like affects him,

(44:01):
like my husband doesn't really care like I right right,
Roberto could be sitting right next to me chatting right now,
and my husband want to care. But my kids now
love to go up to Alexa and try to get
that picture to pop back up.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
So they're like Ellie the best, right, Alli and Roberto like.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
They're like, Alexa, show me a picture of Allian Roberto cute?

Speaker 5 (44:23):
They like my husband by hearing that to him now.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Trista reverse hazes me.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Not too long ago, we were in Tahoe together and
her son Max was there, and you know, I've never
heard Trista say anything like this before, so caught me
way off guard. But Max was like busy on his phone,
He's not really paying attention to us. You know, he's
like sixteen or fifteen at the time. And Trista goes, oh, Max,
do you remember you know Bob And he's like you know,

(44:50):
he's like okay, and she goes my ex boyfriend and
I'm like, oh, like.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Whoa hold on, dude.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
You know, it's like a really funny moment. She starts laughing,
walks away, and I'm all stressed up.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Oh they don't care, Yeah, they don't care.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Max still doesn't care. Max. He run into me on
the street and be like, who's this guy? I have
no idea?

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Yeah, I totally isn't care.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Well speaking and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
My daughter and I have a have to have a
lot of conversations about what it means, like what thing
means right. Like she's at this age now where she's like, Mom,
are you famous? And I'm like, well, no, honey, I'm like,
I was on a show one so people know who
I am, Like I had a level of fame at
one point in my life. Yes, I have my five
minutes like I was like, but no, And she's like, well,

(45:34):
what does it mean to be famous? And I'm like, okay, well,
usually famous people are like on TV or in movies.
She's like, you were on TV, you were in movies
because I did one movie. But I'm like okay, well normally,
you know, famous people are like doing red carpets and
people ask for their picture and she's like, we.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Went to Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
She's like what she was like counting how many people
came up and asked for a picture and she's like
seventeen people.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Mom, you're famous.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
I'm like, well, no, it's like this, and then she
goes no one talks about it, and I'm like, it's.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
This weird conversation. Right now, I'm having with her.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
But the reason I'm up is because then this did
not help my cause because then she's like, I'm like, moll,
you can't talk to kids about that and not, you know,
let's not talk about fame and it doesn't matter. Then
the special Forces errors, okay, and it's like sixteen celebrities take.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
On, did I just got past this?

Speaker 4 (46:31):
I know, I'm like, all this worked to try, And
then she looks at me and she goes, so you're
not a celebrity.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
And smarty pants. No, I feel like you need to
just face the music. You were a celebrity ally just
gonna share that. And and I know that it's hard
because your kids are, you know, at younger, but you know,
just continue to have those honest conversations with them. And

(46:58):
do you know she's gonna call you out. She knows
how it is. She's smart, Riley smart. They're smart, they
know what's up. So I think, just doing what you're doing,
you're a great parent.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
And at least you can just be ali with her.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
My son thinks that I'm Bob the Builder or basketball
you can't figure out which one. Yeah, no, yes, it's
so cute, Bob.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I mean, i'd take that one for sure, six.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Year old eyes. That is a celebrity.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
So congratulating totally exactly. I have got to get going.
We could, of course talk for hours and hours, and
we will. We'll have you back on the show, not
to talk about Special Forces, but just to chat about life,
and but I would really I just want to thank
you again for taking care of me. I'm so glad

(47:46):
you were there, that we had each other. You were
the like, the only familiar face I had, even though
I had met I think Denise once before. But it
was so good to have you there with me and
like and like we were talking before because we've found
out we could share this story later because I don't
know that we have time for it, but we found

(48:08):
Alie found out that I was on the show, like
when we were in sequester basically waiting to go film.
And I knew before because she was sharing on Instagram
how hard she was working out. And I saw her
working out with her military boots one day and I
was like, Okay, that's it. I know she's doing it.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I wore them with dresses two events I was wearing.
I never took them off.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
It's so amazing.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
I literally have a video of me wearing them with
a dress because I refuse to put on heels.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
I need to break in these boots. But anyway, that's
so good.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I mean, good for you. That's another training tip that
Hannah gave me. Actually, But anyway, so I knew going
in that we would have each other and that definitely
gave me a little bit more confidence. So thank you,
thank you for being there.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Thank you, And I feel like it brought us closer,
Like obviously we're in the Fashion worm together and stuff,
but now I feel like I have like this different
way to connect with you now, and I'm grateful for that.
And I feel the same way. I was so happy
you were there and now we can talk about it
together and I don't know redemption season.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
That's right, But thank you so much for being here
to talk with Bob and I on the almost famous
o G podcast. We would love for everybody go give
Ali a follow on Instagram. It's at Ali Mano Ali.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Okay, awesome, thank you, thank you, thank you everybody for listening.
So good to check.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Nice
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