July 24, 2024 • 49 mins
We almost have a full cheer squad when Jenni Croft Badolato hangs out with our Bachelor Nation OGs Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter!
Jenni shares all of her memories from competing on Brad Womack’s season, and she and Trista bond over their careers as professional cheerleaders.
Plus, Jenni teaches us how to tell when a contestant is a pro dancer!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. There she is.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
God, you guys look so good like me.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm like, oh, you look so cute? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
I was gonna say, yeah, that's you look really fantastic
for someone who just got out of bed.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You guys, I was laying down my husband in Chicago
and the kids are dead asleep, and I was like, like,
this is divine. It's so eight.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm sleeping.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm and I was like, oh my god, I had
my riddlin and my coffee and I'm ready to gout nice.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, actually we need to back up for a minute
because we have to intro you.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Oh okay, for anyone who does not know, this is
Jenny Jenny Kraft Bottlado.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
On season eleven with Brad Momac and of course part
of the infamous Not Being Chosen duo of you and Gianna.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I know, I when I was thinking about your your
married name, I thought, Wow, you could say Jenny Croft
badass a lotto.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Does anyone call you that?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I think that?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Never never gosh, Bob, Yes, it's such a good name.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Isn't that a good one?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's all I'm in. I'm taking it from now.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
All right, Well, bad ass Loto. We are love, We
are very lucky to have you on the show. We're
excited to have you on the show. Welcome to the
Almost Famous OG Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Awesome, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You're welcome. Do you consider yourself an O G? Like,
do you do?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You consider yourself one of the ogs? Because we do,
we can see I do.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And I always say like this, like when back in
the day, when I was on the Bachelor, we didn't
have Instagram, we didn't have Facebook, we didn't have any
any social media, right, yeah, you know, like I barely
after that barely had like MySpace, and you know, and
we barely like used email. I know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I mean we were Trista and I talked about that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I think that's a litmus test for if you're an
OG or not. We're going to use that from now on,
the phrase back in the day.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Back in the day, and if you didn't have any
kind of like social media, then you are an OG.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, Yeah, I think that's a great call. I really do.
That's a good call. Trust that that should be our
litmus test for it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It was such a different experience back in the day, right,
you had to You had to get almost like baited
into looking at a chat room that none of us
even knew how to look at anyway, to see how to.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
See how people were shredding you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
So it's like, you know, it's so much better now,
you know, it's so much easier to share.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So you really had to like get on the computer
and search like, yes, very very specific things to find
something that maybe they were talking about you but maybe not.
But also like there was barely anyone in any magazines
or like I I remember I had like one little
like picture like my with my green background like in
(03:15):
one one of the magazines. And then my husband and
I after we got married, we had like a little
spread in US Weekly. But that's really it. Nothing else.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, true, it was. It was easy to
do that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You can find some stuff on yourself randomly in the
grocery store, but that was about it.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah right, Okay, so we obviously love all things bachelor
and Bachelorette, but we wanted to bring you on today
to talk all things professional NBA. Yeah answer, I mean, hello,
we have that in common, but especially with the whole
Dallas Cowboy cheerleader documentary out that's out right now. Have
(03:58):
you watched it?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I have? It's incredible. I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, you love it?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Okay, good?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
So we'd love to hear, like where what was your
journey in like the professional dance world? Like how did
you start? Because I can't remember if you were a
heat dancer first or a Dallas Cowboy. Yeah, okay, tell me,
tell us the tell us, the journey, the path.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I was Wichita State University cheerleader Go Shocks, and my
cheer coach at the time was like, hey, let's I'm
going to go down to Dallas and try out for
the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. And I was like, You're not
going out without me. I'm going for sure. So I
we literally just like put in our application and at
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that time, there wasn't like send in a video that
kind of stuff. You could go down and take a
prep class, you could kind of learn what you're going
to be doing at auditions, but there was no prepping
for audition. And when we got there, there were fifteen
hundred women standing in a little zig zag line and
(05:07):
around Texas Stadium like standing in line, hair done, suitcase,
big giant mirror in your hand, curling irons like ready
to go, like standing in line.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
What year was that, Jenny, two thousand and two. Okay,
back in the day, Back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Gosh, right, So fifteen hundred girls you go and like
you walk up and it's it was so intimidating. Everyone
was just incredibly beautiful, like to the nines, like ready.
Some of them were in their high heels like ready
to go. Oh yeah, for sure there was. It wasn't
(05:46):
like it is now like you if you're getting ready,
you're wearing heels. If you're getting ready, now you're wearing dunks. Right,
So yeah, totally, this is totally different. I love what
you just called them dunks. Dumb. I got three kids,
there are dunks.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I just saw your Instagram poster your stories in Vegas,
And doesn't your husband klok sneakers or dunks?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh yes, he probably has more shoes than any woman
that I know. His shoes crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I like this because I'm a big shoe and hat
guy and I and it's like I wear the same
shoes every day, but I have like so many shoes
that my we had to build my wife a separate
closet because my shoes and hat stake up all the room.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
He has in the second garage, a shoe rack in
the main garage, a giant shoe rack in our like
we call it our shoe nook. It's like, you know,
like your mud room. Every there's like one hundred pairs
in there. And then he's got his closet and his
all of his shoes in there.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So oh, I sure, yeah, sure, I know, I'll.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Send it off.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Okay, so you're wearing your dunks now, but you okay,
So you show up at auditions.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it was amazing. So you go in and get
your number. You dance for it's like two minutes to
some random song that they play and if they like
yeah improv, they like you. They say you're in thank
you next. You're in thank you next, and then they
bring you back to the next round. They teach you
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a little choreography. You perform that same thing yes yes,
or they put your number up on a board yes yes, no,
no quick, and then you learn to kick line. You
learn a little more choreography. You did an interview and
all KuPS of questions, history, all the things. But we
also took my oh.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
My gosh, history of the Dallas coverge.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We also took a ten page written exam, so tables
like it. You would go into college, right, tables set up,
you go sit down, there's space in between. You have
your ten page paper and you have to answer the questions.
It's history of the Dallas Cowboys, history of the NFL,
current events, current players, the Ring of Honor, information about
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the owners, like things like that. But also you had
to write the national anthem word for word on.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
What that's awesome? Try to do it, Try to do it. Like,
going in.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Doing this, you had no pre reconceived notions of what
was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Right, nothing, especially not your first year. After that you
kind of you kind of know what you're getting yourself into.
Your first year going in you're like, oh, oh say,
can you know You're like, you're like, I'm singing in
my head, right.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I would struggle on when it's over because it's technically, oh.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, I'm being graded. I mean I would stress out
about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, and so like, but that was like, Okay, well
this is serious, I'm going to take it. It's like
a ten page exam to make this home and then
after that it's training camp people. It's pretty pretty Simil
Howard is now, but it's it's it was. It was
I say tough, but it was. It was awesome, you
(09:10):
know what I mean? Like it it was I made this,
I did this. I went through all of that. There
were fifteen hundred girls and I made the top thirty
six so really or thirty eight, I can't remember, but
and how many they? So did you make the squad?
I did? I mean I made it my first season?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, that insanity.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, So I cheered two five and you had no
idea what you were getting into, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You were two to five. You said, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
When you when you think of a cheerleader, think they're
going to go throw some pompumps in the air, a
few hair flips, and you're like, there they are. But
there was so much more to it.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Heck.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, And I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
This new Netflix show really shows like how the girls
are feeling the stress, the things are doing outside of
outside of it. How smart some of these girls are.
I mean, like, I cheered with a lady and I
say lady because I was twenty two when I made it.
She was forty four, which is how old I am.
And she was an attorney and she had like three
(10:15):
kids and also okay, yes, just incredible, incredible women.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, Jenny, did you ever get to know Bonnie Jill
Lathland or Holly Huggins Did you ever get to know them?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Bonnie Joe was before me, and I've met her a
couple of times, like at our alumni events and things
like that, But I don't know her personally. How over
owe her on Instagram and I think she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh yeah, she's my really good friends.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Oh yeah, I love her. Oh my, yes, that's it
right there.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
She's awesome, isn't she?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh my gosh?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yes, yep.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Okay, so you made it the first freaking year. So
for me, I I didn't know that I wanted to
do the Heat Dancers until I was living in my
I saw them practicing in a gym and I tried
out three years. It took me three years to make it.
Not yeah, heat auditions are very different from Dallas down
(11:10):
to that, but but yeah, I mean the fact that
you made it out of fifteen hundred girls not knowing
what you were doing.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I have like orange I have like orange blonde hair.
That I had colored and myself. They turned me into
Tiffany Ambertheasan with like the dark hair and like the
green eyes. You know what I mean, it's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Did they give you recommendations for what they wanted your
look to be?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh no, because if you make it to training camp
them they'd change you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So you go, you go to training camp, They're like.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Here you go, nake you into who you should be.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do they have so I know for the heat we
had like mac makeup artists come and like teach us
how to do makeup, But did they actually do like
set you up with a hair person and say, Okay,
you're going brown, you're gonna be ye.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So they they you sit down in the chair, Kelly
comes over and plays with your hair, looks at you
and says hmm and then they're like Tiffany and berthesin, Yeah,
dark hair, she's got green eyes. And then bam no
w yeah, and then you it is what it is like,
that's you from now on. Don't you kind of have
that persona for the rest of your like tenure or
(12:30):
whatever it's called.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And that's them deciding, not you both deciding, Like y,
so you're going to be you don't have you don't
have to say that.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
They don't make you look like a completely and totally
different person. I feel like they Kelly has a really
great eye to look at you and say like I
like her, I like her hair how it is, or
I really think that she would pop more if her
hair was darker, or she needs more blonde. You know,
she has a really good eye for that. And I
mean I trusted it. I'm like, whatever you guys want.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So wait, so you did two to five?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So like when O five rolls, when you finished the
five season, was it one of those things where you
were like, Okay, I'm just gonna move on now, or
what was Well?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I had met a boy there it is, and he
had moved to Miami, so I was like, peace, I'm out.
I've done three years. Three years is a long time.
Five years is like five years is like amazing, But
three years is a long time for a professional cheerader
or dancer. And I was ready. I was like ready
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to do something new and fun and different. But I
moved to Miami and right when I got there, I
was like, what can I do? What am I going
to do? I have to dance, So I did. I
tried out for the Heat and like I, like you said,
it's it was a totally different world. Tiny bikini tops,
any bitty shorts, tall boots, high heel stilettos, like s
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working all the things.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So working all the things.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I went from like Paul bombs and hair to like
booty shorts and high heel boots.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Right, do you come in your cachet though, I would
guess like you come in for the Miami Heat trouts
and there like, well, she's a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader, you know, yes,
I think, I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I feel like it was because also I looked different too.
So you go there and trist to same for you.
I'm sure you walked in and you were, like, you
looked different than everyone at the audition, just because it's
a different it's a different world, it's a different place,
it's different. Everyone is coming from everywhere in Miami, and
(14:43):
so it's a really great mesh of like everyone. Right. Yeah,
and then but there was a girl who also tried
out that had just been a Laker girl. So we're
over here, I'm like this brown haired Dallas cowboys cheerleader
and she's like this Barbie blonde from La right, So
we kind of stood out a little bit. But I
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went in there like, oh my gosh, the dance style
is so different. It's very hip hop. It's very low
to the ground, you know what I mean. So when
you go in there, I had to kind of like
I had to pull out a different meat.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
How long did you do that? How long were you
a heat?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Heat? One year? I cheered, oh, five to six, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Did you go to and then when did Bachelor happened
for you?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Did you dance for Phoenix?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I did? I moved to Phoenix after that season. I
moved to Phoenix and then tried out for the Sun's
Dancers and I made the Suns. So I danced for
a year six o seven and in between then I
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tried out for Mercury, which is like the women's the
w NBA team they have. They had like a hip
hop squad. So I made the Mercury hip Hop squad.
And after I made Mercury, then I did the Bachelor.
So I shared a little bit of I did my
whole first year of Sons, a little bit of Mercury
and then I went on the Bachelor for six weeks,
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came back, finished out the Mercury season, and then I
did two more years with the Suns.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Oh wow, Yeah, what a pedigree.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Pedigree.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, I was like, if you choose me, I'll just
find some word of dance and test.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, You're like, where do you live, Brad.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Womack A San Antonio is kind of close?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Shoot, well yeah, and do you miss it at all?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I do, but I still have my hand in it.
I teach. I teach dance group fitness at Lifetime, and
I teach Groovy Effect, which is like a high it's
a high inner dance like fitness class. But we do
like weight and like some stuff like that in there.
And so I feel like I get my Jenny on
in that hour or so when I'm teaching, because I
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don't know, I just turned back. It's you are. I
feel like you get to be a different person when
you're dancing, not a different person, like you get to
like be all the things that are like inside put
I'm out there.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
That's that's what made Trista fall in love with me
on the Bachelorette was my mad dancing skills and when
you said it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Was like more hip hop, like, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's me.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You may dance just like my husband.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I see myself so differently than I did.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I was more of an Irish jig guy, which you might.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Be surprised both of you to hear this, but that
doesn't translate as well on the larger dancing.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Scene, and we see that.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, I'm sure, I'm like still pulling out the river
dance moves. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's like I don't even know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I like river dance though I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
At my age, it shows flexibility, you know, muscular maturity.
I'm just fascinated that both of you guys were like
such accomplished dancers. And it's funny we talk about our
(18:21):
mutual friends Jenny, but she went on to dance for
several teams too, right, she was a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Cheerleader, then a forty nine er gallery.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, it's always interesting to me that I think, I
think it really is in your blood, you know, like
the ones that you know get out there and just keep.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Going and doing it. It's such a cool stage to
be on too.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, when I every time I go out when I
teach a class, I'll walk in and be like, I'm
Jenny dance and music like it's in my soul. So
like when I put this when the when I put
this music on, I'm gonna act a little bit weird.
I'm gonna I'm not going to act like I you know,
as I do when you walk in the door. But
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feel it like I love like I feel like when
you grow up in that world and you do it professionally,
it's it's in your It's in your soul for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Absolutely. Yeah. Well you can always tell too when you
meet someone who's who's been in that situation. They're always
really effusive.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
At least my experience has always been they're always confident
and effusive and had like this great personality as well,
because that comes through in the dance as well. And
I know that, you know, I've always thought that about you.
You have such a great personality, and you're finding me
around and you're welcome, and of course the Queen Trista,
you know, really really lays the foundation for everyone to
feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What are we doing for reunion?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh my gosh, I was just at one.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Did you go to it this year? Last year.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yes, no, I think we talked about it, how you did.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I wanted to go so bad, but I always feel
like one of my kids things always ends up somewhere,
and all that was.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I was shocked that one of my kids things did not.
I be my availability to go, but yes, I was
just do you know who kept Altano is?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So she was my choreographer when I first tried out,
when I was first on the squad.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Why do I know that name? Trista?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I know that I know that name?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Why do I?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Kat is actually a really big event producer and she
does a lot of dance media production, so you may
have run into her at some point in time. She
knows pretty much everyone in the dance in Victory. But
she was just here. I just I had lunch with
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her and Blake's that got to meet her. But we
were just talking about how we want it. We need
to go to our reunion again. We need to do
this again because it was so much.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I love doing the Cowboys one. They bring everybody in
for like the entire weekend. Like we'll go from like
a Thursday to a Monday, and there's a lance and
like we get to meet the cheerleaders because we love
to meet the cheerleaders too. Then they perform at the
halftime and this year's Monday night football games, so it's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Insane, insane. Oh, that's so much fun. And do you
get to bring me up your little girl?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah. So a couple of years ago when I went,
my husband, we brought all the kids. They sat in
a little box and it is known like they had
it was probably the best time of their life. And
they're like, that's what I bought.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I could imagine they had to be so proud.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh, it's really fun. I think it's cool because I'm like,
you guys don't know you guys don't know who I am.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You don't know me, right, Yeah, I'm not just a
day Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I try to convince my kids the same because I
know that my kids think I'm a total dork, which
they're not. Yeah, I'm like, I know, I used to
have a cool life, guys. Okay, you know then this happened,
These these happened. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Hey, well I'm curious when you went on the Bachelor,
because for me, I was titled uh, Miami Heat Dancer
or something like that. It was like or n gay
cheerleader or you know whatever. I wasn't a pediatric physical
therapist was, which of course was my career. I was
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just a Miami heat dancer. So did they use that
as your title or were you.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Were sons dancer on it? Sons Dancing a son's dancer. Yeah,
but they had to go through channels to get that
title down there too. I mean I was a dental assistant,
but they also just put tons dancer on there.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Now none of the this is gonna sound really terrible
and I'm going to get some haters for it, but
I'm going there.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Back then they actually put something that we did in
the chiron.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And now they can't for all the guys that go
on there.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
They can't put personal trainer lives in Mom's basement under
there because there's too many words. So now they have
to put like just kidding, just kidding everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But no, they really did, like they boiled us all down.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I mean I remember trist that you might remember the
she may not, but I remember under Ryan what Ryan
Sutter was a firefighter and that was it, yeah, right,
and I was I was mortgage guy, which by the way,
I had literally just bought into a mortgage company. I
didn't even I didn't know what the hell was going
on from a mortgage perspective. And I'm like, yeah, And
I remember talking to Ryan one night and somehow it
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comes up to Trista that you know, I was. I
played football in college. I was a quarterback and all
this kind of stuff. So you bring it up to me, Trista,
and I'm like, listen, I just I can't.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Really. I was literally a party planner on the football team.
I was a backup.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I'm like, Ryan played professional football for the Baltimore Ravens
because I was like such a Ryan Sutter fan because
here he was like the most humble pie, nicest guy,
and he had played at this level that you know,
nobody gets to.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And I'm just like, and he wouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
He's talking about, well, you know, I hook up the
fire exting, which I'm like, dude, like, what are you doing?
You're so fascinating talk about what you've done in your life, man.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
But he just wasn't that guy. But you know, they don't.
They don't have the now.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's like all funny, kitchy stuff, which I guess is yeah,
I mean that's.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Fine, Yeah, it's fine. I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I do like to know I can. Well, here's
the do I can always tell you which girl was
a professional cheerleader or dancer. I can always Yeah, you know,
I got a good eye.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You've got a lot of experience in it. Do you
know anybody like Melissa Ryecraft for example? Was she dancing
when you were dancing?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
She cheered after me? Okay, So like, do you know
do you.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Have any other connections of people either through Bachelor or
bachelt Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know now you're like testing my like mom brain
the memory, which I don't have at all, you know what. No,
but right now, one of my girlfriends is on uh
Big Brother, Oh stop it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I am a huge big.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
My name is Brooklyn and she was like a cheerleader.
She was like miss okay America say, like amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I'm a huge fan. But I don't know how. I
didn't know that it had started, and I missed the
first two episodes.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I write our DVR, I know, well, I hadn't.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Set it up yet because we moved so with our
new like DBR thing, I hadn't put in all of
my favorite shows yet and so it hadn't automatically started taping,
so I have to go back and see the first
two episodes. But that is so exciting. Is she from?
Where's she from? Arizona?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
She's in Texas? Okay, but I'm so pumped. I love
it when I like know somebody that's on a show.
If ever, there, if ever there was a show that
I ever decided to do again, it would be that
I love a big brother.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Big brother me too. Yeah, I was so excited. It
would be so hard to disappear for three months.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean, oh, I could never. I couldn't do it.
That would be just like the one thing that I
would be like maybe, but would be a long time
for me. I think my husband might be insane by
the time we got back.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, same, he would be insane after like a week
or two weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know, he could do it, he would, he would
be amazing. But I think he would be like, here's
your kids. Yeah, I don't know how you drive seven
thousand miles a day.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
No, I feel the same way. I feel like I
have been and recently had to, you know, disappear for
a moment in time, and I was like, he's got this.
He's an incredible dad, so he's fine. I trust that
everything will be just fine. Okay, I want to get
back to your experience. What was your like favorite game
(26:45):
day moment. Do you have any fun memories?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, I have lots of fun any of it. I
have lots of fund memories. One is my very first
game that I cheered at. My dad randomly just walked
up to a ticket counter and got a ticket. It
right like he just was like, hey, give me a ticket. Oh,
now we do our intro and then you're the team
splits into four and you're on your different corners end zones,
right and I look up with my dad is sitting
(27:12):
right there, right in front of me. We had no idea,
we had no idea what corner or wherever we would be.
He just randomly got a ticket and he ended up
right there. So I love that Dad was sitting right
there for the first for the first game.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And I was there when Emma Smith broke the rushing
record and like you couldn't hear yourself, think it was
the loudest cheering, and like I cried, like everyone's crying,
Like it was so incredible.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I get that is so exciting.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And then I feel like every game we would walk
out there and like we'd stand in the tunnel ready
to go, and like then our music comes on and
the intro for the Cowboys chairleaders is and now ladies
and gentlemen that often ivitated, never equal internationally acclaimed Dallas
Cowboys cheerleaders, and then we come out and it's like
(28:06):
this rush of like goosebumps and air and like, oh
my god, I made it. So I mean, I would
do that every day if I could. I wish my
kids would do that for Meyer. No, no they don't, though,
so I kind of have to begin and be like,
(28:26):
hey mom, you're still mercy. Okay, So but those I
feel like I will ever forget it. It's it was
the best time of my life. I feel like I
have a lot of best times of my life, but
that that is definitely what took me from being just
Jenny and just a college cheerleader to being a woman
(28:50):
and confident and a dancer. And I don't know. They
take you through all kinds of things, like you do
etiquette classes and makeup classes, teach you how to like
have a presence in public and that kind of stuff.
So it's not just like go and like dance on
the sidelines. They really do take you from being like
(29:10):
this high school college athlete to being a professional athlete
and learning how to be in the world.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, that's so cool. I feel like they do it
really well. You know, like the heat you they do
the makeup classes, and you have the camaraderie of you know,
your fellow dancers, which I that's what I was drawn
to too, not just the dancing, but the camaraderie. And
(29:40):
I feel like, yes, you learn a lot about that,
but it seems like like the etiquette stuff. I wish
that was like a required class in.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
School these days. I've sent my voice to etiquette class
because I'm like, I went to etiquette class. You guys
are going, yes, I can't take a vine into the
oldest person that was able to take some bite. It's
so funny. I think about things like that and things
that I learned through Cowboys, and like, I mean, it
has an effect on my every single day life.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's amazing in a positive way.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
In a positive way, absolutely, Yeah, for sure. I feel
like as the days go by, because there's the shows
and Netflix and like social media and all the things
that it's like goods and bads, like people are getting
the positives, but also it's a lot of stress and
a lot of eyes, which it's always been a lot
of eyes on you, but now it's more like nitpicky, right. Yeah, day,
(30:35):
I feel like it was really good. Yeah. I feel
like it was all positive. It was like the influence
that all of it it had on me was nothing
but positive.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I love that. I love that. Do you feel like
it helped in terms of getting you ready for your
television part of your life?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
My gosh.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I always say like I cheered with so many beautiful, talented, smart,
outgoing women who are all like front Point, home Coming
prom queens, right, So I was always around that type
of woman, and then when you go into The Bachelor,
(31:19):
it's all those women still, it's like the same like
high level, beautiful, smart, talented, you know, it's the same
group of women, right, And you go in there and
if you've never been in that world, I don't think
you really know how to act. I don't think you
know how to you know, smile and cheer another woman
(31:40):
on rather than feel intimidated and you know, become something
that you may not actually be. But I was used
to that world, so I felt comfortable with other women,
and you know, and I love to cheer. I love
to cheer other women on, So I was comfortable in
that world.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Is just.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I don't know, just that's kind of where I took it,
Like it was easy for me to be there, and
I don't think it's easy for most women to be there.
If you've never in that situation before.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Well, I feel like, especially in today's society, women don't
always lift each other up. You know, there are a
lot of trolls out there and a lot of jealousy,
and I feel like with social media, you know, people
feel like there's no accountability or there is no accountability
if you want to say what you want to say.
So I feel like that could be another required class
(32:35):
for just women. And you know, I mean, I guess
all of us to just lift each other up and
support each other.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, So it seems like they did a good job
with that too. Now you're watching the show, is there
anything that you think is is different from your experience
(33:03):
back in the day for cowboys, like compared to the documentary.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, I think they don't show. They don't show like well,
they do show the importance and the the like the
heaviness of making sure that you stay a certain way
and you look a certain way, like your you know,
you take care of yourself, right, I mean those girls
we were dancing from seven pm to eleven pm Monday
(33:32):
through Friday, and then appearances and events on Saturday and
games on Sunday or Monday. So I mean it's you're
constantly working out, right, You're always doing something physical, but
outside of that, you're going to the gym, you're taking
hit classes, you're doing ballet, your bar, all the things, right,
so you're taking care of yourself. Back then, we didn't
(33:54):
get like the nutrition aspect of it. So I would
literally I was working at a dentist. I would get
up at five o'clock in the morning. I'd have to
be there at six forty five, but stop at McDonald's
on the way. I'd get a large coke, a hash frown,
and a sausage eac and cheese a biscuit every saurday.
And so I really had to be like conscious of
(34:14):
like don't gain weight, Like don't you got a Maybe
now I have to go to the gym again, just
because we would get weight random weay in, Like it'd
be like way in day and everyone would like run
to the bathroom, try to peet, and then go stand
in line to get weight in, and you don't really
take your shoes off, you don't. You just go get
(34:35):
on the scale and they just take notes. So it'd
be like random here and there. I feel like it
was a little stressful. Now I feel like I feel
like at this point in my life, I'm probably in
the best shape of my life, and I probably and
I was so much more than I did when I
was a cheerleader. But I feel like muscular and healthy now,
(34:56):
and then I was it was more of a let's
be skinny. It's I don't think it's like that with
them now because they all of them are so like
muscular and fit now that I mean, I feel like
it's their weigh ins are probably a little bit different. Yeah,
it's my son. He just woke up. He's like, oh,
(35:19):
so it's probably a little bit different. But that was
one thing I don't think they showed like they did.
They do kind of show it how important it is
to like stay in your like weight and like your
your body is important for your uniform. But I don't
think they show the freak out moments of like, oh shoot,
we gotta go away in Yeah. I remember sitting down
with Kelly a couple of times when she's like, Jenny, like,
(35:43):
here's a picture with like your back circle from the game,
or you know what I'm saying, like your shorts are
getting a little tight. But here's the thing. And I
always think about it like this.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was they.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Were right, and she's just pointing it out, saying, hey,
don't forget this is important too. This is what everyone
is seeing. You don't see it out there. But part
of the whole being the cheer litter back then was yeah,
your style, like don't let someone have that moment to
(36:21):
criticize you. So I take it with's good and bad.
But yeah, I feel like that's one thing they didn't
show a lot of. They do show what one particular
person going through a lot ups and downs with her
eating and that kind of stuff, And I knew and
I've cheered with a few girls that had issues. But
(36:42):
I feel like in general, everything that they showed from
the feelings that you're getting, the stalkers that you get,
like it's so bad. I mean, people wait for you,
they'll wait for you at the end of the game,
and you don't have security. They do. They have security.
Security walking from the tunnel to the bus, from the
(37:03):
bus to the car. That's security at home. But you know,
if you ever have an issue, that's one thing they
were really good at. You say something, it's taken care of.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh wow, that's saying yeah, so you felt safe.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I always felt safe. I just feel if you were
to ever say anything. And I think they showed this
on the show. The one girl said something that happened
to her at a game. It was nipped in the bud,
taking care of done. There's nothing else to talk about
because they will protect you.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
At all costs.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That's how.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, that's good, which I love.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I feel like with the with the whole body, you know,
the evolution of how it's changed from when you were
dancing to now. I feel like society is very much
body positive and I wonder like, if if Mia ever
wanted to try out, ye, how did you feel with
(38:02):
if they still keep those standards you know what I
mean in terms of like weigh ins and you know,
showing you pictures of what your back looks like or whatever.
You know, how would you feel about your daughter doing it?
With your experience obviously taken into it account and knowing
what a positive experience you had, how would you feel?
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I feel like when I when I look back on
it and how it affects me today in my life.
I am pretty conscious about myself. I wouldn't say critical,
because I have been all the things, from too many
pounds with all the kids and just you know whatever,
(38:50):
and all the sizes, all the weights. I've been there
because you know, you don't happen to have kids, they're crazy.
But and having been through all of that, I feel
very conscious of it and it is a part of
my every single day life. But I don't feel negatively
about it. I feel like it's a good thing for me.
(39:10):
I feel like it keeps me knowing how to eat healthy,
what to fuel my body with food is like not
just food, it's gonna make you feel better. Yeah, So
I feel like that was I don't. I don't feel
like anything negative came out of that for me. I
can see if I can for some people. But when
(39:30):
it comes to like if my daughter were you know,
twenty two years old, trying out for a team. I
feel like she's twenty two trying out for a professional
dance team, cheer squad. They're one hundred person. Should be
a thought process in what she looks like in the
(39:51):
uniform and how she comps herself and how healthy she
is treating her body. So what, I just don't know.
I don't want to say, yeah, I think she should
go through that, But I also feel like when you
get to that level, there should be an accountability.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, I see that. I mean if it's only for
just I mean you're a professional athlete at that point. Yeah, yeah, totally.
I mean it's no different than the guys in the
NFL needing to work out, like to maintain their health.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And they have a weight and they have a weight chart,
like they have a weight, they have weights they have
to stay at. It's not any different. So like there's
like the linebacker and the quarterback. They still have their
expectations of their athletic performance, which is exactly the same
as what they're holding the cheerleaders to. It's just it's
(40:42):
just it's evolved now and I think now it's more
of a healthy body than a skin, right.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yes, I feel like I feel like that's always how
it should have been. But that was kind of about
it was instilled in me as it when I went
to college studied physical therapy, and it was always just
about being healthy, you know, like making sure you're healthy
and what you're taking in is fuel and you know
(41:10):
that you're making sure you work out. I will say,
now that I've gotten to be fifty one years old,
I'm almos still a little bit of that, and I'm like,
you know what, I'm gonna eat all the bread and
drink all the wine.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
And I mean, like I've been training for like a
mussel bikini competition, so wish me luck.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I'm going to try to do one before I turned
forty five. Just kidding. But so I've been doing that
and so I have been like really focused on it
and learning so many things about my body. But we
went to Greece for two weeks, and then I was
in Kansas for a couple of weeks, and then we
(41:49):
went to Vegas and then we're going to Mexico in
a couple of weeks and then school starts. But I
have let myself eat whatever I felt like I wanted
to eat. Pies I've had pizza, but also I have
put my body into a state where I feel like,
even if I do that, I still feel healthy and good, right.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Because your metabolism is high again.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, so I feel like now that I've now that
I've learned more about lifting weights and that kind of stuff,
it's it's I think it's a whole different world.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, it definitely can help. I mean, you're still burning
stuff when you're when you're eating all the not all
the things you shouldn't be eating.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Yeah, like certain people pizza, Well, I say you shouldn't
be eating being that you're like this should eat.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
The things, but you should eat all what makes your
body feel good and what makes it not feel good right.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well, and also if your goal is to compete, right
and a physical fitness competition, then you clearly have to
be choosy about what you Eating's like, you know, choosing
the car over the court. It's probably not what you
want to be doing.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
We'll go back to that after the kids go back
to school. And I'm not chicken nuggets.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Well, you know what, And life is about priority, and
I feel like prioritizing if you're on vacation and you
want to make memories and quality time and not be
worried and about nitpicking every single meal, like do it Like.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I don't want to be the burden, and I don't
want to be the burden. And when everybody's having all
this fun stuff and everyboy'sing tacos and chips and whatever,
and then I'm like, I just get a grilled chicken.
You know. I didn't want to be the burden. So
I just had a little bit of fun and then
now now it's game.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Time, right, Yes, yeah, I feel like that's what life
is about. Life is just about all right.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
So I asked the beginning, but do you miss dancing?
I know you do, you dance through lifetime, but do
you miss the like professional dancing party?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I do. If I had, if I felt like I
had the time or like the bandwidth to be able
to go do it again, I would audition again. I
am judging Sun's dancer auditions coming up next. Ye, I know,
I'm so pumped.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
That is so fun. I did that for the Bronco
you did.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Oh, it was so fun just to be in, like
just to be there and be part of it. Yes,
I feel like that was a fun little way to
just kind of sneak back in, you know, And even
though I'd never danced for the Broncos, it was just
fun to be part of these girls experience and you know,
(44:42):
reminding myself kind of what I went through and bringing
back memories for me. So you'll have so much fun,
I know.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Well see they asked me, and I said, well, absolutely,
I'm in what time and where? I said, or should
I just try out? Do you dinny? And I'm like, no,
I'll just judge. I don't talk.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
They have an age limit, O, I mean, none of
them have an age limit. If you it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Bad ass, like bad ass a lotto or whatever it is.
Are you?
Speaker 3 (45:21):
That's I know.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I do love that the Sun's dancers have kind of
evolved into a more It's like, really, I don't even
know what the word is, but there's guys and girls
and all walks of life, so very hip hop ish
squad where like everyone can try out, like go dance
your ass off and if you're if your dance level
(45:47):
and your entertainment value matches, you're in.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
That's it. Oh my gosh, that's so fun. I'm kind
of jealous that you're getting to do that because it's
so much fun. So okay, well, next time there's a
union for the Heat.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I know I need to go. I haven't gotten to
go to any of the Heat.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Reunions, so you have to.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Are you on the.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
And you might not be just because you weren't at
the reunion this time? But there's a what stapp chat
are you on that?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Can you add me?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Jenny?
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You don't want to be added? And I'm sorry for
everyone on this what sap chat, but I swear I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna look at it right now because
I swear it's like there's hundreds of messages. I can't
keep up because everyone's.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
So nice to each other and everyone's like beep Birthday,
I'd be anniversary, and I'm like, oh my gosh, my
mind is blowing because I can't even keep up with
my life all of these girls who I missed terribly
and I want to stay connected to.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
But I'm like, I just can't keep up. Yeah, I
know it's a lot, but we do start like if
there is a reunion, then we all connect. So it's
just a great way to connect with not even just
the people you danced with, other people, which you know
we were years apart. I think I stopped in two
(47:05):
thousand and two because that's when I five.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Oh six No, yeah, yeah, oh five oh six, yeah yeah,
you were was who was choreographing Janine, Janine and Gena
uh huh.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I love Genora and Janine obviously, but I love that. Okay,
it has been so much fun to chat. Thank you
so much, Jim. Oh, good for you.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
You on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I you're inspiring me like you're before and afters. I
love freaking thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
I know she just gave me. She was like, eat
this every day for the rest of your life, and
not the rest of your life. I've been on it
for like, I don't know, it's almost been two months now,
the eating portion of it, and I've been lifting for like,
I don't know, six months now. I just feel so amazing.
(48:01):
I feel like I might be addicted.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
I love I love it. That's a great addiction. Yes,
I know if you're going to have an addiction.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Okay, I'll tell you on my show as you're coming.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
I love it. I would love to see you. Oh
my god, that's so amazing for sure, Okay, Kenmi post
it so good to chat.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I love you, so I'll talk to you soon. Okay,
bye bye.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
All right, guys, Well this is so weird saying goodbye
without Bob, but this is Trista and I'm so excited
y'all were able to listen to our little interview with
Jennie Craft Badassialado. If you want to hear us chat
with any of the guests or cast members from Bachelor, Bachelorette, whatever,
it does not matter. Just shoot us your ideas and
(48:50):
we'd love to take them into account and chat with
who you want us to chat with. So have a
great day and stay tuned for more almost famous ojeez.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Another one, Al
This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. There she is.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
God, you guys look so good like me.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I'm like, oh, you look so cute? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
I was gonna say, yeah, that's you look really fantastic
for someone who just got out of bed.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
You guys, I was laying down my husband in Chicago
and the kids are dead asleep, and I was like, like,
this is divine. It's so eight.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm sleeping.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I'm and I was like, oh my god, I had
my riddlin and my coffee and I'm ready to gout nice.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, actually we need to back up for a minute
because we have to intro you.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Oh okay, for anyone who does not know, this is
Jenny Jenny Kraft Bottlado.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
On season eleven with Brad Momac and of course part
of the infamous Not Being Chosen duo of you and Gianna.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I know, I when I was thinking about your your
married name, I thought, Wow, you could say Jenny Croft
badass a lotto.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Does anyone call you that?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I think that?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
But I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Never never gosh, Bob, Yes, it's such a good name.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Isn't that a good one?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's all I'm in. I'm taking it from now.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
All right, Well, bad ass Loto. We are love, We
are very lucky to have you on the show. We're
excited to have you on the show. Welcome to the
Almost Famous OG Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Awesome, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You're welcome. Do you consider yourself an O G? Like,
do you do?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
You consider yourself one of the ogs? Because we do,
we can see I do.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And I always say like this, like when back in
the day, when I was on the Bachelor, we didn't
have Instagram, we didn't have Facebook, we didn't have any
any social media, right, yeah, you know, like I barely
after that barely had like MySpace, and you know, and
we barely like used email. I know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I mean we were Trista and I talked about that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I think that's a litmus test for if you're an
OG or not. We're going to use that from now on,
the phrase back in the day.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Back in the day, and if you didn't have any
kind of like social media, then you are an OG.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, Yeah, I think that's a great call. I really do.
That's a good call. Trust that that should be our
litmus test for it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes, for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It was such a different experience back in the day, right,
you had to You had to get almost like baited
into looking at a chat room that none of us
even knew how to look at anyway, to see how to.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
See how people were shredding you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
So it's like, you know, it's so much better now,
you know, it's so much easier to share.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So you really had to like get on the computer
and search like, yes, very very specific things to find
something that maybe they were talking about you but maybe not.
But also like there was barely anyone in any magazines
or like I I remember I had like one little
like picture like my with my green background like in
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one one of the magazines. And then my husband and
I after we got married, we had like a little
spread in US Weekly. But that's really it. Nothing else.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, true, it was. It was easy to
do that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You can find some stuff on yourself randomly in the
grocery store, but that was about it.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah right, Okay, so we obviously love all things bachelor
and Bachelorette, but we wanted to bring you on today
to talk all things professional NBA. Yeah answer, I mean, hello,
we have that in common, but especially with the whole
Dallas Cowboy cheerleader documentary out that's out right now. Have
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you watched it?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I have? It's incredible. I love it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, you love it?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Okay, good?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
So we'd love to hear, like where what was your
journey in like the professional dance world? Like how did
you start? Because I can't remember if you were a
heat dancer first or a Dallas Cowboy. Yeah, okay, tell me,
tell us the tell us, the journey, the path.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I was Wichita State University cheerleader Go Shocks, and my
cheer coach at the time was like, hey, let's I'm
going to go down to Dallas and try out for
the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. And I was like, You're not
going out without me. I'm going for sure. So I
we literally just like put in our application and at
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that time, there wasn't like send in a video that
kind of stuff. You could go down and take a
prep class, you could kind of learn what you're going
to be doing at auditions, but there was no prepping
for audition. And when we got there, there were fifteen
hundred women standing in a little zig zag line and
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around Texas Stadium like standing in line, hair done, suitcase,
big giant mirror in your hand, curling irons like ready
to go, like standing in line.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
What year was that, Jenny, two thousand and two. Okay,
back in the day, Back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Gosh, right, So fifteen hundred girls you go and like
you walk up and it's it was so intimidating. Everyone
was just incredibly beautiful, like to the nines, like ready.
Some of them were in their high heels like ready
to go. Oh yeah, for sure there was. It wasn't
(05:46):
like it is now like you if you're getting ready,
you're wearing heels. If you're getting ready, now you're wearing dunks. Right,
So yeah, totally, this is totally different. I love what
you just called them dunks. Dumb. I got three kids,
there are dunks.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I just saw your Instagram poster your stories in Vegas,
And doesn't your husband klok sneakers or dunks?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh yes, he probably has more shoes than any woman
that I know. His shoes crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I like this because I'm a big shoe and hat
guy and I and it's like I wear the same
shoes every day, but I have like so many shoes
that my we had to build my wife a separate
closet because my shoes and hat stake up all the room.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
He has in the second garage, a shoe rack in
the main garage, a giant shoe rack in our like
we call it our shoe nook. It's like, you know,
like your mud room. Every there's like one hundred pairs
in there. And then he's got his closet and his
all of his shoes in there.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
So oh, I sure, yeah, sure, I know, I'll.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Send it off.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Okay, so you're wearing your dunks now, but you okay,
So you show up at auditions.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So it was amazing. So you go in and get
your number. You dance for it's like two minutes to
some random song that they play and if they like
yeah improv, they like you. They say you're in thank
you next. You're in thank you next, and then they
bring you back to the next round. They teach you
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a little choreography. You perform that same thing yes yes,
or they put your number up on a board yes yes, no,
no quick, and then you learn to kick line. You
learn a little more choreography. You did an interview and
all KuPS of questions, history, all the things. But we
also took my oh.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
My gosh, history of the Dallas coverge.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We also took a ten page written exam, so tables
like it. You would go into college, right, tables set up,
you go sit down, there's space in between. You have
your ten page paper and you have to answer the questions.
It's history of the Dallas Cowboys, history of the NFL,
current events, current players, the Ring of Honor, information about
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the owners, like things like that. But also you had
to write the national anthem word for word on.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
What that's awesome? Try to do it, Try to do it. Like,
going in.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Doing this, you had no pre reconceived notions of what
was going to happen.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Right, nothing, especially not your first year. After that you
kind of you kind of know what you're getting yourself into.
Your first year going in you're like, oh, oh say,
can you know You're like, you're like, I'm singing in
my head, right.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I would struggle on when it's over because it's technically, oh.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, I'm being graded. I mean I would stress out
about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, and so like, but that was like, Okay, well
this is serious, I'm going to take it. It's like
a ten page exam to make this home and then
after that it's training camp people. It's pretty pretty Simil
Howard is now, but it's it's it was. It was
I say tough, but it was. It was awesome, you
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know what I mean? Like it it was I made this,
I did this. I went through all of that. There
were fifteen hundred girls and I made the top thirty
six so really or thirty eight, I can't remember, but
and how many they? So did you make the squad?
I did? I mean I made it my first season?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, that insanity.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Yeah, So I cheered two five and you had no
idea what you were getting into, No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You were two to five. You said, yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
When you when you think of a cheerleader, think they're
going to go throw some pompumps in the air, a
few hair flips, and you're like, there they are. But
there was so much more to it.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Heck.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, And I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
This new Netflix show really shows like how the girls
are feeling the stress, the things are doing outside of
outside of it. How smart some of these girls are.
I mean, like, I cheered with a lady and I
say lady because I was twenty two when I made it.
She was forty four, which is how old I am.
And she was an attorney and she had like three
(10:15):
kids and also okay, yes, just incredible, incredible women.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, Jenny, did you ever get to know Bonnie Jill
Lathland or Holly Huggins Did you ever get to know them?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Bonnie Joe was before me, and I've met her a
couple of times, like at our alumni events and things
like that, But I don't know her personally. How over
owe her on Instagram and I think she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh yeah, she's my really good friends.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Oh yeah, I love her. Oh my, yes, that's it
right there.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
She's awesome, isn't she?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Oh my gosh?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yes, yep.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Okay, so you made it the first freaking year. So
for me, I I didn't know that I wanted to
do the Heat Dancers until I was living in my
I saw them practicing in a gym and I tried
out three years. It took me three years to make it.
Not yeah, heat auditions are very different from Dallas down
(11:10):
to that, but but yeah, I mean the fact that
you made it out of fifteen hundred girls not knowing
what you were doing.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I have like orange I have like orange blonde hair.
That I had colored and myself. They turned me into
Tiffany Ambertheasan with like the dark hair and like the
green eyes. You know what I mean, it's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Did they give you recommendations for what they wanted your
look to be?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh no, because if you make it to training camp
them they'd change you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So you go, you go to training camp, They're like.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Here you go, nake you into who you should be.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do they have so I know for the heat we
had like mac makeup artists come and like teach us
how to do makeup, But did they actually do like
set you up with a hair person and say, Okay,
you're going brown, you're gonna be ye.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So they they you sit down in the chair, Kelly
comes over and plays with your hair, looks at you
and says hmm and then they're like Tiffany and berthesin, Yeah,
dark hair, she's got green eyes. And then bam no
w yeah, and then you it is what it is like,
that's you from now on. Don't you kind of have
that persona for the rest of your like tenure or
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whatever it's called.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And that's them deciding, not you both deciding, Like y,
so you're going to be you don't have you don't
have to say that.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
They don't make you look like a completely and totally
different person. I feel like they Kelly has a really
great eye to look at you and say like I
like her, I like her hair how it is, or
I really think that she would pop more if her
hair was darker, or she needs more blonde. You know,
she has a really good eye for that. And I
mean I trusted it. I'm like, whatever you guys want.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
So wait, so you did two to five?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
So like when O five rolls, when you finished the
five season, was it one of those things where you
were like, Okay, I'm just gonna move on now, or
what was Well?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I had met a boy there it is, and he
had moved to Miami, so I was like, peace, I'm out.
I've done three years. Three years is a long time.
Five years is like five years is like amazing, But
three years is a long time for a professional cheerader
or dancer. And I was ready. I was like ready
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to do something new and fun and different. But I
moved to Miami and right when I got there, I
was like, what can I do? What am I going
to do? I have to dance, So I did. I
tried out for the Heat and like I, like you said,
it's it was a totally different world. Tiny bikini tops,
any bitty shorts, tall boots, high heel stilettos, like s
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working all the things.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So working all the things.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I went from like Paul bombs and hair to like
booty shorts and high heel boots.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Right, do you come in your cachet though, I would
guess like you come in for the Miami Heat trouts
and there like, well, she's a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader, you know, yes,
I think, I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I feel like it was because also I looked different too.
So you go there and trist to same for you.
I'm sure you walked in and you were, like, you
looked different than everyone at the audition, just because it's
a different it's a different world, it's a different place,
it's different. Everyone is coming from everywhere in Miami, and
(14:43):
so it's a really great mesh of like everyone. Right. Yeah,
and then but there was a girl who also tried
out that had just been a Laker girl. So we're
over here, I'm like this brown haired Dallas cowboys cheerleader
and she's like this Barbie blonde from La right, So
we kind of stood out a little bit. But I
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went in there like, oh my gosh, the dance style
is so different. It's very hip hop. It's very low
to the ground, you know what I mean. So when
you go in there, I had to kind of like
I had to pull out a different meat.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
How long did you do that? How long were you
a heat?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Heat? One year? I cheered, oh, five to six, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Did you go to and then when did Bachelor happened
for you?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
And I?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Did you dance for Phoenix?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I did? I moved to Phoenix after that season. I
moved to Phoenix and then tried out for the Sun's
Dancers and I made the Suns. So I danced for
a year six o seven and in between then I
(15:57):
tried out for Mercury, which is like the women's the
w NBA team they have. They had like a hip
hop squad. So I made the Mercury hip Hop squad.
And after I made Mercury, then I did the Bachelor.
So I shared a little bit of I did my
whole first year of Sons, a little bit of Mercury
and then I went on the Bachelor for six weeks,
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came back, finished out the Mercury season, and then I
did two more years with the Suns.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Oh wow, Yeah, what a pedigree.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Pedigree.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Well, I was like, if you choose me, I'll just
find some word of dance and test.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, You're like, where do you live, Brad.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Womack A San Antonio is kind of close?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Shoot, well yeah, and do you miss it at all?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I do, but I still have my hand in it.
I teach. I teach dance group fitness at Lifetime, and
I teach Groovy Effect, which is like a high it's
a high inner dance like fitness class. But we do
like weight and like some stuff like that in there.
And so I feel like I get my Jenny on
in that hour or so when I'm teaching, because I
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don't know, I just turned back. It's you are. I
feel like you get to be a different person when
you're dancing, not a different person, like you get to
like be all the things that are like inside put
I'm out there.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
That's that's what made Trista fall in love with me
on the Bachelorette was my mad dancing skills and when
you said it.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Was like more hip hop, like, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's me.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You may dance just like my husband.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I see myself so differently than I did.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I was more of an Irish jig guy, which you might.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Be surprised both of you to hear this, but that
doesn't translate as well on the larger dancing.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Scene, and we see that.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, I'm sure, I'm like still pulling out the river
dance moves. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's like I don't even know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I like river dance though I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
At my age, it shows flexibility, you know, muscular maturity.
I'm just fascinated that both of you guys were like
such accomplished dancers. And it's funny we talk about our
(18:21):
mutual friends Jenny, but she went on to dance for
several teams too, right, she was a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Cheerleader, then a forty nine er gallery.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, it's always interesting to me that I think, I
think it really is in your blood, you know, like
the ones that you know get out there and just keep.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Going and doing it. It's such a cool stage to
be on too.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, when I every time I go out when I
teach a class, I'll walk in and be like, I'm
Jenny dance and music like it's in my soul. So
like when I put this when the when I put
this music on, I'm gonna act a little bit weird.
I'm gonna I'm not going to act like I you know,
as I do when you walk in the door. But
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feel it like I love like I feel like when
you grow up in that world and you do it professionally,
it's it's in your It's in your soul for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Absolutely. Yeah. Well you can always tell too when you
meet someone who's who's been in that situation. They're always
really effusive.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
At least my experience has always been they're always confident
and effusive and had like this great personality as well,
because that comes through in the dance as well. And
I know that, you know, I've always thought that about you.
You have such a great personality, and you're finding me
around and you're welcome, and of course the Queen Trista,
you know, really really lays the foundation for everyone to
feel comfortable.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
What are we doing for reunion?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh my gosh, I was just at one.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Did you go to it this year? Last year.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yes, no, I think we talked about it, how you did.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I wanted to go so bad, but I always feel
like one of my kids things always ends up somewhere,
and all that was.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I was shocked that one of my kids things did not.
I be my availability to go, but yes, I was
just do you know who kept Altano is?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So she was my choreographer when I first tried out,
when I was first on the squad.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Why do I know that name? Trista?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I know that I know that name?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Why do I?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Kat is actually a really big event producer and she
does a lot of dance media production, so you may
have run into her at some point in time. She
knows pretty much everyone in the dance in Victory. But
she was just here. I just I had lunch with
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her and Blake's that got to meet her. But we
were just talking about how we want it. We need
to go to our reunion again. We need to do
this again because it was so much.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I love doing the Cowboys one. They bring everybody in
for like the entire weekend. Like we'll go from like
a Thursday to a Monday, and there's a lance and
like we get to meet the cheerleaders because we love
to meet the cheerleaders too. Then they perform at the
halftime and this year's Monday night football games, so it's
going to be.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Insane, insane. Oh, that's so much fun. And do you
get to bring me up your little girl?
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah. So a couple of years ago when I went,
my husband, we brought all the kids. They sat in
a little box and it is known like they had
it was probably the best time of their life. And
they're like, that's what I bought.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I could imagine they had to be so proud.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Oh, it's really fun. I think it's cool because I'm like,
you guys don't know you guys don't know who I am.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You don't know me, right, Yeah, I'm not just a
day Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I try to convince my kids the same because I
know that my kids think I'm a total dork, which
they're not. Yeah, I'm like, I know, I used to
have a cool life, guys. Okay, you know then this happened,
These these happened. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Hey, well I'm curious when you went on the Bachelor,
because for me, I was titled uh, Miami Heat Dancer
or something like that. It was like or n gay
cheerleader or you know whatever. I wasn't a pediatric physical
therapist was, which of course was my career. I was
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just a Miami heat dancer. So did they use that
as your title or were you.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Were sons dancer on it? Sons Dancing a son's dancer. Yeah,
but they had to go through channels to get that
title down there too. I mean I was a dental assistant,
but they also just put tons dancer on there.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Now none of the this is gonna sound really terrible
and I'm going to get some haters for it, but
I'm going there.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Back then they actually put something that we did in
the chiron.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And now they can't for all the guys that go
on there.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
They can't put personal trainer lives in Mom's basement under
there because there's too many words. So now they have
to put like just kidding, just kidding everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
But no, they really did, like they boiled us all down.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I mean I remember trist that you might remember the
she may not, but I remember under Ryan what Ryan
Sutter was a firefighter and that was it, yeah, right,
and I was I was mortgage guy, which by the way,
I had literally just bought into a mortgage company. I
didn't even I didn't know what the hell was going
on from a mortgage perspective. And I'm like, yeah, And
I remember talking to Ryan one night and somehow it
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comes up to Trista that you know, I was. I
played football in college. I was a quarterback and all
this kind of stuff. So you bring it up to me, Trista,
and I'm like, listen, I just I can't.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Really. I was literally a party planner on the football team.
I was a backup.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I'm like, Ryan played professional football for the Baltimore Ravens
because I was like such a Ryan Sutter fan because
here he was like the most humble pie, nicest guy,
and he had played at this level that you know,
nobody gets to.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And I'm just like, and he wouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
He's talking about, well, you know, I hook up the
fire exting, which I'm like, dude, like, what are you doing?
You're so fascinating talk about what you've done in your life, man.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
But he just wasn't that guy. But you know, they don't.
They don't have the now.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
It's like all funny, kitchy stuff, which I guess is yeah,
I mean that's.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Fine, Yeah, it's fine. I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, I do like to know I can. Well, here's
the do I can always tell you which girl was
a professional cheerleader or dancer. I can always Yeah, you know,
I got a good eye.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You've got a lot of experience in it. Do you
know anybody like Melissa Ryecraft for example? Was she dancing
when you were dancing?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
She cheered after me? Okay, So like, do you know
do you.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Have any other connections of people either through Bachelor or
bachelt Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You know now you're like testing my like mom brain
the memory, which I don't have at all, you know what. No,
but right now, one of my girlfriends is on uh
Big Brother, Oh stop it.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I am a huge big.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
My name is Brooklyn and she was like a cheerleader.
She was like miss okay America say, like amazing.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I'm a huge fan. But I don't know how. I
didn't know that it had started, and I missed the
first two episodes.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I write our DVR, I know, well, I hadn't.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Set it up yet because we moved so with our
new like DBR thing, I hadn't put in all of
my favorite shows yet and so it hadn't automatically started taping,
so I have to go back and see the first
two episodes. But that is so exciting. Is she from?
Where's she from? Arizona?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
She's in Texas? Okay, but I'm so pumped. I love
it when I like know somebody that's on a show.
If ever, there, if ever there was a show that
I ever decided to do again, it would be that
I love a big brother.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Big brother me too. Yeah, I was so excited. It
would be so hard to disappear for three months.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I mean, oh, I could never. I couldn't do it.
That would be just like the one thing that I
would be like maybe, but would be a long time
for me. I think my husband might be insane by
the time we got back.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, same, he would be insane after like a week
or two weeks.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You know, he could do it, he would, he would
be amazing. But I think he would be like, here's
your kids. Yeah, I don't know how you drive seven
thousand miles a day.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
No, I feel the same way. I feel like I
have been and recently had to, you know, disappear for
a moment in time, and I was like, he's got this.
He's an incredible dad, so he's fine. I trust that
everything will be just fine. Okay, I want to get
back to your experience. What was your like favorite game
(26:45):
day moment. Do you have any fun memories?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, I have lots of fun any of it. I
have lots of fund memories. One is my very first
game that I cheered at. My dad randomly just walked
up to a ticket counter and got a ticket. It
right like he just was like, hey, give me a ticket. Oh,
now we do our intro and then you're the team
splits into four and you're on your different corners end zones,
right and I look up with my dad is sitting
(27:12):
right there, right in front of me. We had no idea,
we had no idea what corner or wherever we would be.
He just randomly got a ticket and he ended up
right there. So I love that Dad was sitting right
there for the first for the first game.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I loved that.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And I was there when Emma Smith broke the rushing
record and like you couldn't hear yourself, think it was
the loudest cheering, and like I cried, like everyone's crying,
Like it was so incredible.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I get that is so exciting.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And then I feel like every game we would walk
out there and like we'd stand in the tunnel ready
to go, and like then our music comes on and
the intro for the Cowboys chairleaders is and now ladies
and gentlemen that often ivitated, never equal internationally acclaimed Dallas
Cowboys cheerleaders, and then we come out and it's like
(28:06):
this rush of like goosebumps and air and like, oh
my god, I made it. So I mean, I would
do that every day if I could. I wish my
kids would do that for Meyer. No, no they don't, though,
so I kind of have to begin and be like,
(28:26):
hey mom, you're still mercy. Okay, So but those I
feel like I will ever forget it. It's it was
the best time of my life. I feel like I
have a lot of best times of my life, but
that that is definitely what took me from being just
Jenny and just a college cheerleader to being a woman
(28:50):
and confident and a dancer. And I don't know. They
take you through all kinds of things, like you do
etiquette classes and makeup classes, teach you how to like
have a presence in public and that kind of stuff.
So it's not just like go and like dance on
the sidelines. They really do take you from being like
(29:10):
this high school college athlete to being a professional athlete
and learning how to be in the world.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, that's so cool. I feel like they do it
really well. You know, like the heat you they do
the makeup classes, and you have the camaraderie of you know,
your fellow dancers, which I that's what I was drawn
to too, not just the dancing, but the camaraderie. And
(29:40):
I feel like, yes, you learn a lot about that,
but it seems like like the etiquette stuff. I wish
that was like a required class in.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
School these days. I've sent my voice to etiquette class
because I'm like, I went to etiquette class. You guys
are going, yes, I can't take a vine into the
oldest person that was able to take some bite. It's
so funny. I think about things like that and things
that I learned through Cowboys, and like, I mean, it
has an effect on my every single day life.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
That's amazing in a positive way.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
In a positive way, absolutely, Yeah, for sure. I feel
like as the days go by, because there's the shows
and Netflix and like social media and all the things
that it's like goods and bads, like people are getting
the positives, but also it's a lot of stress and
a lot of eyes, which it's always been a lot
of eyes on you, but now it's more like nitpicky, right. Yeah, day,
(30:35):
I feel like it was really good. Yeah. I feel
like it was all positive. It was like the influence
that all of it it had on me was nothing
but positive.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I love that. I love that. Do you feel like
it helped in terms of getting you ready for your
television part of your life?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
My gosh.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I always say like I cheered with so many beautiful, talented, smart,
outgoing women who are all like front Point, home Coming
prom queens, right, So I was always around that type
of woman, and then when you go into The Bachelor,
(31:19):
it's all those women still, it's like the same like
high level, beautiful, smart, talented, you know, it's the same
group of women, right, And you go in there and
if you've never been in that world, I don't think
you really know how to act. I don't think you
know how to you know, smile and cheer another woman
(31:40):
on rather than feel intimidated and you know, become something
that you may not actually be. But I was used
to that world, so I felt comfortable with other women,
and you know, and I love to cheer. I love
to cheer other women on, So I was comfortable in
that world.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Is just.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I don't know, just that's kind of where I took it,
Like it was easy for me to be there, and
I don't think it's easy for most women to be there.
If you've never in that situation before.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Well, I feel like, especially in today's society, women don't
always lift each other up. You know, there are a
lot of trolls out there and a lot of jealousy,
and I feel like with social media, you know, people
feel like there's no accountability or there is no accountability
if you want to say what you want to say.
So I feel like that could be another required class
(32:35):
for just women. And you know, I mean, I guess
all of us to just lift each other up and
support each other.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, So it seems like they did a good job
with that too. Now you're watching the show, is there
anything that you think is is different from your experience
(33:03):
back in the day for cowboys, like compared to the documentary.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, I think they don't show. They don't show like well,
they do show the importance and the the like the
heaviness of making sure that you stay a certain way
and you look a certain way, like your you know,
you take care of yourself, right, I mean those girls
we were dancing from seven pm to eleven pm Monday
(33:32):
through Friday, and then appearances and events on Saturday and
games on Sunday or Monday. So I mean it's you're
constantly working out, right, You're always doing something physical, but
outside of that, you're going to the gym, you're taking
hit classes, you're doing ballet, your bar, all the things, right,
so you're taking care of yourself. Back then, we didn't
(33:54):
get like the nutrition aspect of it. So I would
literally I was working at a dentist. I would get
up at five o'clock in the morning. I'd have to
be there at six forty five, but stop at McDonald's
on the way. I'd get a large coke, a hash frown,
and a sausage eac and cheese a biscuit every saurday.
And so I really had to be like conscious of
(34:14):
like don't gain weight, Like don't you got a Maybe
now I have to go to the gym again, just
because we would get weight random weay in, Like it'd
be like way in day and everyone would like run
to the bathroom, try to peet, and then go stand
in line to get weight in, and you don't really
take your shoes off, you don't. You just go get
(34:35):
on the scale and they just take notes. So it'd
be like random here and there. I feel like it
was a little stressful. Now I feel like I feel
like at this point in my life, I'm probably in
the best shape of my life, and I probably and
I was so much more than I did when I
was a cheerleader. But I feel like muscular and healthy now,
(34:56):
and then I was it was more of a let's
be skinny. It's I don't think it's like that with
them now because they all of them are so like
muscular and fit now that I mean, I feel like
it's their weigh ins are probably a little bit different. Yeah,
it's my son. He just woke up. He's like, oh,
(35:19):
so it's probably a little bit different. But that was
one thing I don't think they showed like they did.
They do kind of show it how important it is
to like stay in your like weight and like your
your body is important for your uniform. But I don't
think they show the freak out moments of like, oh shoot,
we gotta go away in Yeah. I remember sitting down
with Kelly a couple of times when she's like, Jenny, like,
(35:43):
here's a picture with like your back circle from the game,
or you know what I'm saying, like your shorts are
getting a little tight. But here's the thing. And I
always think about it like this.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was they.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Were right, and she's just pointing it out, saying, hey,
don't forget this is important too. This is what everyone
is seeing. You don't see it out there. But part
of the whole being the cheer litter back then was yeah,
your style, like don't let someone have that moment to
(36:21):
criticize you. So I take it with's good and bad.
But yeah, I feel like that's one thing they didn't
show a lot of. They do show what one particular
person going through a lot ups and downs with her
eating and that kind of stuff, And I knew and
I've cheered with a few girls that had issues. But
(36:42):
I feel like in general, everything that they showed from
the feelings that you're getting, the stalkers that you get,
like it's so bad. I mean, people wait for you,
they'll wait for you at the end of the game,
and you don't have security. They do. They have security.
Security walking from the tunnel to the bus, from the
(37:03):
bus to the car. That's security at home. But you know,
if you ever have an issue, that's one thing they
were really good at. You say something, it's taken care of.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Oh wow, that's saying yeah, so you felt safe.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I always felt safe. I just feel if you were
to ever say anything. And I think they showed this
on the show. The one girl said something that happened
to her at a game. It was nipped in the bud,
taking care of done. There's nothing else to talk about
because they will protect you.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
At all costs.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
That's how.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, that's good, which I love.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I feel like with the with the whole body, you know,
the evolution of how it's changed from when you were
dancing to now. I feel like society is very much
body positive and I wonder like, if if Mia ever
wanted to try out, ye, how did you feel with
(38:02):
if they still keep those standards you know what I
mean in terms of like weigh ins and you know,
showing you pictures of what your back looks like or whatever.
You know, how would you feel about your daughter doing it?
With your experience obviously taken into it account and knowing
what a positive experience you had, how would you feel?
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I feel like when I when I look back on
it and how it affects me today in my life.
I am pretty conscious about myself. I wouldn't say critical,
because I have been all the things, from too many
pounds with all the kids and just you know whatever,
(38:50):
and all the sizes, all the weights. I've been there
because you know, you don't happen to have kids, they're crazy.
But and having been through all of that, I feel
very conscious of it and it is a part of
my every single day life. But I don't feel negatively
about it. I feel like it's a good thing for me.
(39:10):
I feel like it keeps me knowing how to eat healthy,
what to fuel my body with food is like not
just food, it's gonna make you feel better. Yeah, So
I feel like that was I don't. I don't feel
like anything negative came out of that for me. I
can see if I can for some people. But when
(39:30):
it comes to like if my daughter were you know,
twenty two years old, trying out for a team. I
feel like she's twenty two trying out for a professional
dance team, cheer squad. They're one hundred person. Should be
a thought process in what she looks like in the
(39:51):
uniform and how she comps herself and how healthy she
is treating her body. So what, I just don't know.
I don't want to say, yeah, I think she should
go through that, But I also feel like when you
get to that level, there should be an accountability.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, I see that. I mean if it's only for
just I mean you're a professional athlete at that point. Yeah, yeah, totally.
I mean it's no different than the guys in the
NFL needing to work out, like to maintain their health.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And they have a weight and they have a weight chart,
like they have a weight, they have weights they have
to stay at. It's not any different. So like there's
like the linebacker and the quarterback. They still have their
expectations of their athletic performance, which is exactly the same
as what they're holding the cheerleaders to. It's just it's
(40:42):
just it's evolved now and I think now it's more
of a healthy body than a skin, right.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yes, I feel like I feel like that's always how
it should have been. But that was kind of about
it was instilled in me as it when I went
to college studied physical therapy, and it was always just
about being healthy, you know, like making sure you're healthy
and what you're taking in is fuel and you know
(41:10):
that you're making sure you work out. I will say,
now that I've gotten to be fifty one years old,
I'm almos still a little bit of that, and I'm like,
you know what, I'm gonna eat all the bread and
drink all the wine.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
And I mean, like I've been training for like a
mussel bikini competition, so wish me luck.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I'm going to try to do one before I turned
forty five. Just kidding. But so I've been doing that
and so I have been like really focused on it
and learning so many things about my body. But we
went to Greece for two weeks, and then I was
in Kansas for a couple of weeks, and then we
(41:49):
went to Vegas and then we're going to Mexico in
a couple of weeks and then school starts. But I
have let myself eat whatever I felt like I wanted
to eat. Pies I've had pizza, but also I have
put my body into a state where I feel like,
even if I do that, I still feel healthy and good, right.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Because your metabolism is high again.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, so I feel like now that I've now that
I've learned more about lifting weights and that kind of stuff,
it's it's I think it's a whole different world.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, it definitely can help. I mean, you're still burning
stuff when you're when you're eating all the not all
the things you shouldn't be eating.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Yeah, like certain people pizza, Well, I say you shouldn't
be eating being that you're like this should eat.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
The things, but you should eat all what makes your
body feel good and what makes it not feel good right.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well, and also if your goal is to compete, right
and a physical fitness competition, then you clearly have to
be choosy about what you Eating's like, you know, choosing
the car over the court. It's probably not what you
want to be doing.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
We'll go back to that after the kids go back
to school. And I'm not chicken nuggets.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Well, you know what, And life is about priority, and
I feel like prioritizing if you're on vacation and you
want to make memories and quality time and not be
worried and about nitpicking every single meal, like do it Like.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I don't want to be the burden, and I don't
want to be the burden. And when everybody's having all
this fun stuff and everyboy'sing tacos and chips and whatever,
and then I'm like, I just get a grilled chicken.
You know. I didn't want to be the burden. So
I just had a little bit of fun and then
now now it's game.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Time, right, Yes, yeah, I feel like that's what life
is about. Life is just about all right.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
So I asked the beginning, but do you miss dancing?
I know you do, you dance through lifetime, but do
you miss the like professional dancing party?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I do. If I had, if I felt like I
had the time or like the bandwidth to be able
to go do it again, I would audition again. I
am judging Sun's dancer auditions coming up next. Ye, I know,
I'm so pumped.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
That is so fun. I did that for the Bronco
you did.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Oh, it was so fun just to be in, like
just to be there and be part of it. Yes,
I feel like that was a fun little way to
just kind of sneak back in, you know, And even
though I'd never danced for the Broncos, it was just
fun to be part of these girls experience and you know,
(44:42):
reminding myself kind of what I went through and bringing
back memories for me. So you'll have so much fun,
I know.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Well see they asked me, and I said, well, absolutely,
I'm in what time and where? I said, or should
I just try out? Do you dinny? And I'm like, no,
I'll just judge. I don't talk.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
They have an age limit, O, I mean, none of
them have an age limit. If you it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Bad ass, like bad ass a lotto or whatever it is.
Are you?
Speaker 3 (45:21):
That's I know.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I do love that the Sun's dancers have kind of
evolved into a more It's like, really, I don't even
know what the word is, but there's guys and girls
and all walks of life, so very hip hop ish
squad where like everyone can try out, like go dance
your ass off and if you're if your dance level
(45:47):
and your entertainment value matches, you're in.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
That's it. Oh my gosh, that's so fun. I'm kind
of jealous that you're getting to do that because it's
so much fun. So okay, well, next time there's a
union for the Heat.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
I know I need to go. I haven't gotten to
go to any of the Heat.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Reunions, so you have to.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Are you on the.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
And you might not be just because you weren't at
the reunion this time? But there's a what stapp chat
are you on that?
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Can you add me?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Jenny?
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You don't want to be added? And I'm sorry for
everyone on this what sap chat, but I swear I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna look at it right now because
I swear it's like there's hundreds of messages. I can't
keep up because everyone's.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
So nice to each other and everyone's like beep Birthday,
I'd be anniversary, and I'm like, oh my gosh, my
mind is blowing because I can't even keep up with
my life all of these girls who I missed terribly
and I want to stay connected to.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
But I'm like, I just can't keep up. Yeah, I
know it's a lot, but we do start like if
there is a reunion, then we all connect. So it's
just a great way to connect with not even just
the people you danced with, other people, which you know
we were years apart. I think I stopped in two
(47:05):
thousand and two because that's when I five.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Oh six No, yeah, yeah, oh five oh six, yeah yeah,
you were was who was choreographing Janine, Janine and Gena
uh huh.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I love Genora and Janine obviously, but I love that. Okay,
it has been so much fun to chat. Thank you
so much, Jim. Oh, good for you.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
You on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I you're inspiring me like you're before and afters. I
love freaking thank you.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
I know she just gave me. She was like, eat
this every day for the rest of your life, and
not the rest of your life. I've been on it
for like, I don't know, it's almost been two months now,
the eating portion of it, and I've been lifting for like,
I don't know, six months now. I just feel so amazing.
(48:01):
I feel like I might be addicted.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
I love I love it. That's a great addiction. Yes,
I know if you're going to have an addiction.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Okay, I'll tell you on my show as you're coming.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
I love it. I would love to see you. Oh
my god, that's so amazing for sure, Okay, Kenmi post
it so good to chat.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I love you, so I'll talk to you soon. Okay,
bye bye.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
All right, guys, Well this is so weird saying goodbye
without Bob, but this is Trista and I'm so excited
y'all were able to listen to our little interview with
Jennie Craft Badassialado. If you want to hear us chat
with any of the guests or cast members from Bachelor, Bachelorette, whatever,
it does not matter. Just shoot us your ideas and
(48:50):
we'd love to take them into account and chat with
who you want us to chat with. So have a
great day and stay tuned for more almost famous ojeez.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
Another one, Al
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