September 28, 2023 • 29 mins
Rachel Recchia is fresh from the sand in Paradise and ready to spill some major tea!
She gets real about the transition from being “The Bachelorette” to joining a cast on Bachelor in Paradise, and why the show helped her reveal her true self.
Plus, we hear Rachel’s honest reaction to Clayton Echard’s paternity test situation!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey guys, what's up.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's almost famous. It's Jess Ashley right now because Ben
is stuck in traffic. So if you see him, just
like pop into this interview, know that he's late to
arrive but always appreciated when he's here. The other person
that I have in the room with me digitally is
Rachel Rekya.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hello, Rachel.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Hi, ash It's fine. I like it better home me
just do us too anyway, Love you, Ben?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh my god, why do you say that?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
The last time meet you and Gabby did that girl
chat one was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've
ever recorded.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We did, we had some good tea in that, but
you know what we didn't have And not to like
make this interview not about you right off the bat,
because I want it to be about you because you're
about to be a star on Bachelor of Paradise. But
at that point Gabby was dating her girlfriend Robbie, and
nobody knew in that room I'm assuming except for.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You, Yes, yes, Gabby.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
It was kind of like very under wraps for a
long time, which I love that they did. They kept
it kind of just in between them too. But yes,
very exciting just met Robbie. Actually she is so incredible,
so very happy for them both.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Okay, nice, So how did Gabby come to you saying
that you had a girlfriend after you guys both had
a big pool of men to date together.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Ye As, So she had just gotten off of Dancing
with the Stars tour, which was just a whirlwind, and
we were out to dinner, we were catching up, and
she just kind of mentioned that she had been like
thinking about it, that she had.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Gone on a couple of dates.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
And I think at this point her date was set
up with Robbie, but I don't think she had gone on.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So we were all just super excited, so happy for her.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I think discovering that part of yourself is so huge,
so just like being able to be a part of it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I just am so happy for her.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So there's some people out there saying that like Colton dated,
you know, he had a whole season of girls to date,
and then like the girls could have felt possibly, you know,
let on when they find out that he's actually interested
in men years later. So within a year, the guys
of your season find out that one of the girls
(02:25):
that one of the girls that they were dating ends
up to be interested in women. Do you think there's
a double standard on how the reaction went down between
Colton and Gabby.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I think it's a little different. Well, actually, I don't know.
I would assume Colton is only interested in men because
you didn't like a where is dated men, she was
engaged to a man. I think she will always have
a part of her that still is interested in men.
But I think right decided to explore something she maybe
(02:58):
has in the past.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And I really feel like it's been.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
All positive across the board from the guys I have
heard speak about it. So I don't know, like, what
do you think about it?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
No, I think that I think that it's really nice
that everybody is just saying, you know, she they're they're
happy that she's just doing her thing. Yeah, I'm happy
when you ever she's with whoever, you know, whatever their sex.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Right, because I've seen comments too and they're like, oh, well,
the whole season was a waste, Like it was a
waste no matter what, just because we both didn't end
up engaged.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So I guess it really doesn't matter who she dates.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
After speaking of your season being a quote waste, which
you guys got plenty from it, even if you didn't
get fiances.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's stuck, Tino has.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Said recently, and he's actually been quite quiet, so I'm
surprised to hear this headline from him. Maybe we're misinterpreting it,
but he said that he is planning on watching your
season A Bachelor in Paradise. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, that wasn't the full quote, Okay, what is it?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
No, he said he said he will be watching, but
he will not be watching me.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So he's just gonna press fast forward through you.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
I don't know, maybe it's just to close his eyes
every time I come on screen. I was very shocked
to see that. Honestly, it feels like so much time
has passed. I mean, I talked to you the last time.
We know he's moved on, he's dating, so happy for him,
like wanting him to be happy, so kind of hearing
the negative remarks, it was very shocking.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So yeah, a little disappointed. Honestly, that is super.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Weird, Like why would he even be invested enough to
watch the show if he's going to be fast forwarding
through you? Like, why does he care so much to
watch the show to like have to go through the
you know, difficulty of fast forwarding through you on a
show that like you're gonna be very intricately a part of.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
He said he wanted to watch Tyler and Avon, who
you know may or not be on the be We'll see.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think we don't see them in previews.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I mean there is one fully about Tyler's apps, Okay,
but never you never know who's gonna show up.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
We think we know that Brayden shows up, and we
know that they placed you guys next to each other
at one of the recent tell alls.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Why with Braiden? Yeah, who knows. Everyone's gonna have to
tune in and find out.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
We recently also heard from Wells regarding Bachelor and Paradise
cast that this cast has more former leads than anyone
else any other season, and I was like, hmm, but
all I can think of cast wise is that Rachel
is a former lead. And then he told us we'll see.
(05:56):
So so I'm looking at your and it's kind of telling.
Is the entire Bachelor of Paradise cast released yet? Or
are we going to have somebody who's not on the
list or not showing up at all in the teasers
we've seen thus far.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I think that this season is definitely stacked with bachelorettes.
I think the more bachettes the better, honestly. But who
is going to stay to date? Who's just coming down,
you know, to deliver a date card. That's going to
be something that everyone's going to have to tune in
and find out.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I for sure I am there to date.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But everyone else will have to wait and see what
they come down to the beach to do.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
What encouraged you to go on this on Bachelor in
Paradise because before Becca Kuferin kind of well, she got
great success from going on Bachelor in Paradise and she
was a former lead, very popular one. She sort of
I think paved the way for it to be cool
and acceptable for a former lead who didn't have success
(07:01):
in the past to go on another bachelor show. So
was there any convincing that needed to happen with you
or were you pretty much like, yeah, I love this experience,
We're just gonna do it again.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah. So I this all started out as something where
they were kind of like, would you be interested? I
was like yeah, like joking, never thinking it was gonna happen,
and we start getting closer and closer to it, and
I start thinking about it as more of a possibility.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But it's actually funny because you.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And Ben were the two people who found out first,
because at the.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Time I was still keeping yeah, and the last time
we were together, you guys were like, are you gonna
do it?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
And Ben actually had an hour drive back with him
and he really convinced me.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I was so on the fence.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And then Becca was the one I ultimately talked to
that really convinced me to go. And there's just so
much like success obviously you Jared Dawson, like, how can
you not take that opportunity if it's in front of you,
especially because mine it wasn't even like I got to
be successful for a little bit, like it failed before
(08:06):
the show even ended. So it was just I figured,
if if this is gonna work for me, it's gonna
be paradise.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And you guys all convincing and here we are.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, I'm so happy about that because I'm just such
a fan of the shows and I'm also just such
a fan of the experience. Yes, it like led me
to absolute wonderfulness with my family, today, But it's just like,
I don't know. The growth that happens when you've partaken
one of the shows and the friendships that are formed,
just like always seems worth it to me. And I
(08:38):
know that like other lums may not feel as passionate
about it as I do, but like I'm always like, oh.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
They like want you back.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You have to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's gonna be so great, and you know.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I don't know, yeah no, but like exactly what you said,
I feel like I feel so strongly about it and
doing it three times, it was such a different experience
each time, and you probably felt the same way each time.
You do it so different and I'm so so happy
I did it.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
My favorite experiences A part is franchise.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Honestly totally agree.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Okay, so you are also in Paradise with a few
guys from your season. I know that in our last
interview you said that you were like pretty much not
interested in revisiting anybody from your cast. However, when you're
there in Paradise and underneath the Bachelor bubble again and
(09:42):
you kind of lose all space and time, did feelings
reemerge for anyone in your past?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
So I wanted to go down and I know the
last time we talked to Mike, you know, I would
never do it again, but I wanted to really give
Paradise the chance it deserved fully, and I think I'm
not the same person that I was when I was
the bachelorette, So these guys have probably changed so much too,
not that they needed to, but being able to meet
some of these guys again for the second time, it
(10:13):
was really incredible.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And I mean, maybe.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Not to give too much away, but I think there
might be a little bit of a rekindling, maybe with
an ex flang, So we'll have to wait and see.
But yeah, I was definitely super excited to see some
old faces down on the beach.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Cool good answer. We like to hear that because it
gets us excited. Was what was the guy that you had,
like on your list that you wanted to meet down there?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So I actually didn't have a list, which.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I I know, I thought the list was like not real.
I thought it was just kind of like people were like, oh,
I want to see so and so. So I came
down just fully like like wanting to meet everyone and
just experience it. And I think that might have hurt
me just a little, just because I don't think I
(11:10):
was as prepared as they came down with plans, plans A, B,
and C, and I was just I don't think people
expected me to be there, and then I didn't have
a plan, so I was floundering a little bit. I
feel like in the beginning trying to catch my footing.
It was definitely a transition, but I eventually feel like
(11:33):
I got the hang of it.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Maybe should have planned a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Wells told us that you were kind of like a
Mama Bear figure almost because you have been so experienced
in the process that possibly you were like more of
a guider than like somebody jumping into the dating pool.
Does this have to do with you not having numbers too?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I definitely had a conversation with Wells. He definitely kind
of had to steer me in the right direction because
I feel like I've just done this process in so
many different ways that I, you know, wanted to help
everyone and give everyone advice, and then I kind of
put myself in the situation where maybe I was like
(12:21):
friend zoning myself to everyone without realizing.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It because I was just trying to comfort everyone.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
But yeah, he definitely had to give me a little
bit of a talking to get.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Out of that mind zone.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
It was just a hard transition from like batcherette onto
the beach. So yeah, I definitely struggled just a little
bit in the beginning, and I think.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, what are you looking for and a guy there
that you haven't found before.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I think mainly I really really wanted to meet someone
who I was able to form a really solid friendship with. First, Okay, like,
these are the values I want, and of course those
are still the things I want, but I wasn't prioritizing
like a friendship, and I think that's what really kind
of hurt me in the end, because that is so
(13:07):
important in a relationship. So the first thing on the
beach I wanted to do is make sure that I
could see a life partnership in a friendship as well.
So that's definitely something I did different, I think this
time than the last couple of times.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
People are always curious about the living conditions in Bachelor
in Paradise because it's kind of like camping in the tropics.
How did you deal with that and like what was
what was your tricks to survival?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
So I, of course have had all my friends go down,
tell me it's going to be raining and there's me
crabs in my bed and it's going to be like insane.
And we actually got a pretty mild summer. We were
very lucky. It didn't rain much, actually didn't rain at
all while I was there, and I mean it wasn't
too hot. But I did bring like one of those
(13:59):
portable fans and it died within the first.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Couple of days. I don't know how, but I.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Just, you know, tried my best to embreak elements and
just make the most of it, like you're just gonna
look sweaty and the slickbag. Butns were definitely in the
summer for sure, so thank god they're like trendy now.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yes, absolutely, all right, So you you rap Paradise a
couple months ago. We hope that you're with a guy
or you know, you you have some good friendships from it,
but like, where are you with piloting right now?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So for me, I went back to teach in between
The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, and it was really difficult,
I think, especially being in a really male dominated industry,
getting everyone to take me seriously in general's already one
thing being on TV while I was doing it was
(14:58):
really really hard. The guys would like watch the show
and people would talk about it. And so after Rechelorette,
it was like, I'm gonna give myself some time off,
and when Paradise came up, I'm like, oh no, I'm
gonna have to take more time off. But I think
I've just gotten to the point where I'm just gonna
accept it for what it is. I really want to
get back to flying. So the boys are just gonna
(15:20):
have to deal with it while it happens. But yeah,
it's just it's something that's hard to navigate. But I
think it's really something that I've missed for a really
long time. So I'm excited to get back into teaching.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh my gosh, Okay, that's so exciting. I was worried
that you were going to lead that conversation into like
so we're just gonna take like a semi permanent pause.
But you're actually getting back into it. So when are
you officially starting?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
So I have a really good friend that lives down
here I went to college with, and so he and
I are going to go back up and do reviewing
because I've been out of practice for almost a year,
which is the longest I've ever gone without flying.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So he's gonna take me back up very.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Soon, within the next week or so, and get back
in to hang at things, get back into like the
teaching brain because I've been like just all over the
place for the past two years. But I'm really excited
to get back in the air. And everyone's always like
all over my Instagram, like you gave up flying, and
I'm like, I promise I didn't. I just like needed
(16:21):
a second, so excited for everyone to like come along
in that journey as well.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay, so we know that Pilot peat was not in Paradise,
although we've all said on multiple podcasts we think that
he'd be a great Paradise cast member. He's like made
for reality TV, but we've only seen him in the
Bachelor role, you know, So wouldn't it been a cool thing?
And I don't know why I'm just hypothetically just coming
up with dates with you right now, But like if
(16:47):
you and Pilot Pete both led a date on Bachelor
in Paradise where it was like girls team boys, team whatever,
and you're both flying separately in different.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Planes you're facing there, actually is a pilot Peat in
your nice Oh the.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Other pilot Pete two point oh, two point oh.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I heard this guy's a great dude too.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Do we like this new pilot Pete romantically?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Who knows? I mean, who knows?
Speaker 7 (17:17):
I think I do after all the good things I've
heard about him. He sounds like a cat.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
He's a great guy. He's a really great guy, and
he's funny.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I make you guys have a lot in common.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yes, and sometimes I feel like that could be a
good thing more a bad thing. So we'll have to
wait and see.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Rachel's good to see you. It's good to be here.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
He's Ben.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Who would have thought after our car ride, me and
Ashley were just talking like you guys were the first
people who found out I was going to Paradise.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, no, that's not true. That's not true at all.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
In fact, you were still questioning in our car ride
if you're going to Paradise, And I think I was
in the camp of you should go.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I think you had already made your decision.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
You just didn't want to like tell us, yes, you're convinced,
you're a little freaked out about the idea, But we
were both in the camp of you should make this work.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yes, I was so on the fence.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I really wanted to go, but I kept thinking like,
is this the right thing to do?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Is it gonna work?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Is it gonna be just like embarrassing that I like
go again and if something didn't work out, But I'm
so happy I did it, like one of the best
decisions I ever made.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Okay, Rzel, this is such a hilarious vanity question. But
I know that the internet is taken quite the opinions
on your eyebrows being bleached, and you always have comebacks
for them. What's your ultimate comeback?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Here?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
The ultimate comeback? Well, someone said I looked like Boltimore
the other day, and I was like, well, is it
at least like in a hot way? But they're not
bleached in paradise. So it's just like a new It's
like a phase I'm going through.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Wait time, understand this is this is where I have
the most fun on this podcast. I have no idea
why or what is happening, Like, why would you your
eyebrows bleached?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I just bleach them.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
OK's just that it's just the thing.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I mean, That's what I'm saying, is I have I
don't keep up on these trends, and I don't understand
what's happening in the world. So like, it's just a
thing that you want to do. It's like cutting your
hair short or letting it grow out.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, so I just bleach them to match the blonde.
But normally when people have blonde hair, they bleach their
eyebrows to look darker. So everyone's really upset about the brows.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
But I think, do you, girl, I just keep doing
it now.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Do you kind of love just snapping back at people.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I just think it's funny. I'm like, why not, Like,
why not bleach them?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I don't know, Rachel.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I've known you since your time on the show, and
I would say this, I don't want to speak for you.
I've thoroughly enjoyed our times together, and I feel like
we've had moments where we've gotten to really have life
conversations and life moments where I've gotten to know you
better and appreciate you a ton. I think very highly
of you. So that's where I'm coming from in this statement. Okay,
(20:22):
when I first met you, I felt like you wouldn't
have handled the criticisms as well as you're handling them now. Like,
I think it would have really bothered you. I think
it probably would have kept you up at night. I
think it would have been one of those conversations we
would have had where You're like, I don't get it,
and I think I remember something similar when we talked
(20:45):
a couple of years ago, where I was like, it
happens to everybody, like You're never gonna do this thing right,
and you're just you got to build some Cali skin.
So can you talk to me a little bit about
how you've gotten to the point where you can do
this for yourself because you just want to also have
criticisms and clap back at them with like confidence and hilarity.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah. I mean it's been crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
I think I've went through like every phase you can
in the bachelor world. I think people, you know, they're
really excited for me, and then they really disliked me.
And I think just I can see where people are
coming from in each stage, and I think there were
times where I made mistakes and I can honestly understand
(21:28):
where the criticism's coming from. I think at this point,
I've done so much work on myself that this is
I think the first time I'm on the show where
I really feel like I'm bringing my true self completely forward,
and if people have like things to say about that,
like that's fine, because I really am so proud of
(21:48):
like how far I've come and who I am now.
So yeah, I mean, it's always going to be difficult,
and I think it's easier said right now than when
it starts airing. But I am really confident with whom
I brought to the beach, and I think it's like
my truest self.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
So I'm so happy about that, and I vibe that
very much. I concur with what Ben said for sure,
to change topics on something very scandalous, Are you willing
to talk scandal for a second?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I am all right, I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I don't think. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Okay, it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
No, Ben probably hasn't been scrolling on Instagram over the
past twelve hours.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
We saw you with Clayton get pretty chummy at our
event in February, and it looked like you guys like
almost could have rekindled something. Right then you were having
like deep conversations. You shake your head, but like you know,
you got friendly in the in like a true friend way.
You know, it's like the first time you guys got
together since the dumping, and this past day or so,
(23:01):
there has been something that's come out about him. He's
been served with paternity papers of a paternity lawsuit from
an alleged pregnant X And it's not just that she's pregnant.
She's pregnant with twins.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You you're kidding. Wait, I'm I really, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
What allegedly Well, when I heard about it, I just
think that's probably one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Again,
I guess we don't know completely what had happened, but
I just hope everyone you know, and figure it out
and so definitely insane.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
So we won't make Rachel get completely put on the spots.
I don't think she knows anything more than we do, right,
But I do have questions for the two of you.
So can I cause I don't know about this, Can
I play or just try to understand?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Of course, Rachel. This is what I do with Ashley
in most situations when it comes to pop culture or
just anything happening in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
World. Okay, what is a paternity lawsuit?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Okay, so without reading it, what I'm assuming it is
is that, like she's pregnant with twins, and she's allegedly
claiming that she's slept with Clayton in May, and he
is denying that they had any sexual encounter.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
So he has came out publicly and commented on this
and said he's not that he's denying, and.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Maybe not publicly, but like within the two of them,
and like so like in the paperwork, it's saying that
he's denying it.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Okay, So he's so in the paperwork, she's claiming that
it's his kids and that he said I'm that I
wasn't a part of this, and now she's saying, well,
you're going to have to be a part of this.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Is that how this plays out? Okay?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yes, So apparently on August first, she filed the lawsuit,
So it's been a while alleging that she's pregnant with
twins after engaging in sexual activity with Clayton on May twentieth.
The the kids are due in February twenty twenty four,
and she's saying that she hasn't been with anyone besides
him since March of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Okay, So I'm trying to okay, and then the sources
of this are who this isn't like I don't know
the ones that we find at like grocery stores. These
are legitimate sources or this. We do know for certain
that this lawsuit has been filed.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's via page six, and page six usually has you know,
it's usually pretty reliable. I'll continue with the with the
quotes here, it gets quite scandalous. So this is PG
almost r this is kind of our He's saying that
they only had oral sex that night.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Oh I didn't hear that.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
That's not how you make kids. I will say that
just for an it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
The court filing includes screenshots of alleged tax from the
reality star, including the messages that include quote, I don't
believe you for a second. I legitimately hate you right now.
You have lost your mind. And I hope you think
about how terrible this is that you would subject me
to this. My personal hell would be having to be
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part of your life.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Okay, so this just came out. What I'm understanding is
the story is breaking. Rachel knowing Clayton having some sort
of relationship with Clayton.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
How do you feel about this.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean, I guess my first thought is, this is
obviously something that's very public. I've seen a lot of commentary,
a lot of people, you know, taking sides. I know
Clayton does struggle with his mental health, so obviously that's
something like I thought about first, like hopefully doing okay.
(26:47):
No matter what the situation is, obviously we're all going
to kind of be seeing the development on it. I
just hope everyone is okay, because this is definitely like
a very crazy, crazy situation that I said, you can't
even make up.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, just to add into the story, basically, what we're
waiting on is him to take a paternity test, which
the lawsuit has said that she's offered more than fifty
times in runing to pay for one for him, but
he is unwilling to participate.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Oh my, I you know, I don't know if this
is gonna come off crazy, I feel, I mean, I
I don't know enough about this situation to really have
any opinion whatsoever. But you know, what initially reminds me
of is like the moriy Show when they'd be like
you are the father or you're not the father, and
everybody celebrates or like that. That's kind of what I
feel like in my mind, that's what's coming to me.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, of course it is. Oh is that fair? Is
that fair?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Because that's the only that's the only like tangible example
that I have of this happening.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is that crazy? Am I speaking like wild here?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
And I feel like you're not the first one to
have made that reference.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, okay, I like, yeah, The Bachelor girl chat has
been blowing up. My seasons group chat has re emerged today.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
There's a lot of gifts. This is crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
The what I just really hope everyone's okay, because this
is just yeah, very very you.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Know, you know, Rachel in uh, however long we've been
doing this podcast, the Bachelor world has never ceased to
give us stories, good, bad, and different. They've never no, never,
And so with that being said, it always gives us stories.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Rachel. We hope that you give us a story.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Of love and peace and joy and happiness on the
beach in Mexico and onto the future. We hope you
are following Sue with the trends of the past. We're
leads fine love on the beach in Paradise.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Amen. Hopefully we'll see goodness Grace. Yeah, well, we'll have
you on soon.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But until then, I've been Ashley.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I've been Ben, and I'm Rachel.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah there you go, all right, bye, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
See Rachel Bye.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey guys, what's up.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
It's almost famous. It's Jess Ashley right now because Ben
is stuck in traffic. So if you see him, just
like pop into this interview, know that he's late to
arrive but always appreciated when he's here. The other person
that I have in the room with me digitally is
Rachel Rekya.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hello, Rachel.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Hi, ash It's fine. I like it better home me
just do us too anyway, Love you, Ben?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Oh my god, why do you say that?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
The last time meet you and Gabby did that girl
chat one was probably one of my favorite podcasts I've
ever recorded.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We did, we had some good tea in that, but
you know what we didn't have And not to like
make this interview not about you right off the bat,
because I want it to be about you because you're
about to be a star on Bachelor of Paradise. But
at that point Gabby was dating her girlfriend Robbie, and
nobody knew in that room I'm assuming except for.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You, Yes, yes, Gabby.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
It was kind of like very under wraps for a
long time, which I love that they did. They kept
it kind of just in between them too. But yes,
very exciting just met Robbie. Actually she is so incredible,
so very happy for them both.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Okay, nice, So how did Gabby come to you saying
that you had a girlfriend after you guys both had
a big pool of men to date together.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Ye As, So she had just gotten off of Dancing
with the Stars tour, which was just a whirlwind, and
we were out to dinner, we were catching up, and
she just kind of mentioned that she had been like
thinking about it, that she had.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Gone on a couple of dates.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
And I think at this point her date was set
up with Robbie, but I don't think she had gone on.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
So we were all just super excited, so happy for her.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I think discovering that part of yourself is so huge,
so just like being able to be a part of it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I just am so happy for her.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So there's some people out there saying that like Colton dated,
you know, he had a whole season of girls to date,
and then like the girls could have felt possibly, you know,
let on when they find out that he's actually interested
in men years later. So within a year, the guys
of your season find out that one of the girls
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that one of the girls that they were dating ends
up to be interested in women. Do you think there's
a double standard on how the reaction went down between
Colton and Gabby.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I think it's a little different. Well, actually, I don't know.
I would assume Colton is only interested in men because
you didn't like a where is dated men, she was
engaged to a man. I think she will always have
a part of her that still is interested in men.
But I think right decided to explore something she maybe
(02:58):
has in the past.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And I really feel like it's been.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
All positive across the board from the guys I have
heard speak about it. So I don't know, like, what
do you think about it?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
No, I think that I think that it's really nice
that everybody is just saying, you know, she they're they're
happy that she's just doing her thing. Yeah, I'm happy
when you ever she's with whoever, you know, whatever their sex.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Right, because I've seen comments too and they're like, oh, well,
the whole season was a waste, Like it was a
waste no matter what, just because we both didn't end
up engaged.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So I guess it really doesn't matter who she dates.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
After speaking of your season being a quote waste, which
you guys got plenty from it, even if you didn't
get fiances.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's stuck, Tino has.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Said recently, and he's actually been quite quiet, so I'm
surprised to hear this headline from him. Maybe we're misinterpreting it,
but he said that he is planning on watching your
season A Bachelor in Paradise. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, that wasn't the full quote, Okay, what is it?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
No, he said he said he will be watching, but
he will not be watching me.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Woo.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
So he's just gonna press fast forward through you.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
I don't know, maybe it's just to close his eyes
every time I come on screen. I was very shocked
to see that. Honestly, it feels like so much time
has passed. I mean, I talked to you the last time.
We know he's moved on, he's dating, so happy for him,
like wanting him to be happy, so kind of hearing
the negative remarks, it was very shocking.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
So yeah, a little disappointed. Honestly, that is super.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Weird, Like why would he even be invested enough to
watch the show if he's going to be fast forwarding
through you? Like, why does he care so much to
watch the show to like have to go through the
you know, difficulty of fast forwarding through you on a
show that like you're gonna be very intricately a part of.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
He said he wanted to watch Tyler and Avon, who
you know may or not be on the be We'll see.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think we don't see them in previews.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I mean there is one fully about Tyler's apps, Okay,
but never you never know who's gonna show up.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
We think we know that Brayden shows up, and we
know that they placed you guys next to each other
at one of the recent tell alls.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Why with Braiden? Yeah, who knows. Everyone's gonna have to
tune in and find out.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
We recently also heard from Wells regarding Bachelor and Paradise
cast that this cast has more former leads than anyone
else any other season, and I was like, hmm, but
all I can think of cast wise is that Rachel
is a former lead. And then he told us we'll see.
(05:56):
So so I'm looking at your and it's kind of telling.
Is the entire Bachelor of Paradise cast released yet? Or
are we going to have somebody who's not on the
list or not showing up at all in the teasers
we've seen thus far.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I think that this season is definitely stacked with bachelorettes.
I think the more bachettes the better, honestly. But who
is going to stay to date? Who's just coming down,
you know, to deliver a date card. That's going to
be something that everyone's going to have to tune in
and find out.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I for sure I am there to date.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But everyone else will have to wait and see what
they come down to the beach to do.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
What encouraged you to go on this on Bachelor in
Paradise because before Becca Kuferin kind of well, she got
great success from going on Bachelor in Paradise and she
was a former lead, very popular one. She sort of
I think paved the way for it to be cool
and acceptable for a former lead who didn't have success
(07:01):
in the past to go on another bachelor show. So
was there any convincing that needed to happen with you
or were you pretty much like, yeah, I love this experience,
We're just gonna do it again.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah. So I this all started out as something where
they were kind of like, would you be interested? I
was like yeah, like joking, never thinking it was gonna happen,
and we start getting closer and closer to it, and
I start thinking about it as more of a possibility.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But it's actually funny because you.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And Ben were the two people who found out first,
because at the.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Time I was still keeping yeah, and the last time
we were together, you guys were like, are you gonna
do it?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
And Ben actually had an hour drive back with him
and he really convinced me.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I was so on the fence.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And then Becca was the one I ultimately talked to
that really convinced me to go. And there's just so
much like success obviously you Jared Dawson, like, how can
you not take that opportunity if it's in front of you,
especially because mine it wasn't even like I got to
be successful for a little bit, like it failed before
(08:06):
the show even ended. So it was just I figured,
if if this is gonna work for me, it's gonna
be paradise.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
And you guys all convincing and here we are.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, I'm so happy about that because I'm just such
a fan of the shows and I'm also just such
a fan of the experience. Yes, it like led me
to absolute wonderfulness with my family, today, But it's just like,
I don't know. The growth that happens when you've partaken
one of the shows and the friendships that are formed,
just like always seems worth it to me. And I
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know that like other lums may not feel as passionate
about it as I do, but like I'm always like, oh.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
They like want you back.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
You have to do it.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's gonna be so great, and you know.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
I don't know, yeah no, but like exactly what you said,
I feel like I feel so strongly about it and
doing it three times, it was such a different experience
each time, and you probably felt the same way each time.
You do it so different and I'm so so happy
I did it.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
My favorite experiences A part is franchise.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Honestly totally agree.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Okay, so you are also in Paradise with a few
guys from your season. I know that in our last
interview you said that you were like pretty much not
interested in revisiting anybody from your cast. However, when you're
there in Paradise and underneath the Bachelor bubble again and
(09:42):
you kind of lose all space and time, did feelings
reemerge for anyone in your past?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
So I wanted to go down and I know the
last time we talked to Mike, you know, I would
never do it again, but I wanted to really give
Paradise the chance it deserved fully, and I think I'm
not the same person that I was when I was
the bachelorette, So these guys have probably changed so much too,
not that they needed to, but being able to meet
some of these guys again for the second time, it
(10:13):
was really incredible.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And I mean, maybe.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Not to give too much away, but I think there
might be a little bit of a rekindling, maybe with
an ex flang, So we'll have to wait and see.
But yeah, I was definitely super excited to see some
old faces down on the beach.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Cool good answer. We like to hear that because it
gets us excited. Was what was the guy that you had,
like on your list that you wanted to meet down there?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So I actually didn't have a list, which.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I I know, I thought the list was like not real.
I thought it was just kind of like people were like, oh,
I want to see so and so. So I came
down just fully like like wanting to meet everyone and
just experience it. And I think that might have hurt
me just a little, just because I don't think I
(11:10):
was as prepared as they came down with plans, plans A, B,
and C, and I was just I don't think people
expected me to be there, and then I didn't have
a plan, so I was floundering a little bit. I
feel like in the beginning trying to catch my footing.
It was definitely a transition, but I eventually feel like
(11:33):
I got the hang of it.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Maybe should have planned a little bit better.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Wells told us that you were kind of like a
Mama Bear figure almost because you have been so experienced
in the process that possibly you were like more of
a guider than like somebody jumping into the dating pool.
Does this have to do with you not having numbers too?
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I definitely had a conversation with Wells. He definitely kind
of had to steer me in the right direction because
I feel like I've just done this process in so
many different ways that I, you know, wanted to help
everyone and give everyone advice, and then I kind of
put myself in the situation where maybe I was like
(12:21):
friend zoning myself to everyone without realizing.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It because I was just trying to comfort everyone.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
But yeah, he definitely had to give me a little
bit of a talking to get.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Out of that mind zone.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
It was just a hard transition from like batcherette onto
the beach. So yeah, I definitely struggled just a little
bit in the beginning, and I think.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Well, what are you looking for and a guy there
that you haven't found before.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
I think mainly I really really wanted to meet someone
who I was able to form a really solid friendship with. First, Okay, like,
these are the values I want, and of course those
are still the things I want, but I wasn't prioritizing
like a friendship, and I think that's what really kind
of hurt me in the end, because that is so
(13:07):
important in a relationship. So the first thing on the
beach I wanted to do is make sure that I
could see a life partnership in a friendship as well.
So that's definitely something I did different, I think this
time than the last couple of times.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
People are always curious about the living conditions in Bachelor
in Paradise because it's kind of like camping in the tropics.
How did you deal with that and like what was
what was your tricks to survival?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
So I, of course have had all my friends go down,
tell me it's going to be raining and there's me
crabs in my bed and it's going to be like insane.
And we actually got a pretty mild summer. We were
very lucky. It didn't rain much, actually didn't rain at
all while I was there, and I mean it wasn't
too hot. But I did bring like one of those
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portable fans and it died within the first.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Couple of days. I don't know how, but I.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Just, you know, tried my best to embreak elements and
just make the most of it, like you're just gonna
look sweaty and the slickbag. Butns were definitely in the
summer for sure, so thank god they're like trendy now.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yes, absolutely, all right, So you you rap Paradise a
couple months ago. We hope that you're with a guy
or you know, you you have some good friendships from it,
but like, where are you with piloting right now?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So for me, I went back to teach in between
The Bachelor and the Bachelorette, and it was really difficult,
I think, especially being in a really male dominated industry,
getting everyone to take me seriously in general's already one
thing being on TV while I was doing it was
(14:58):
really really hard. The guys would like watch the show
and people would talk about it. And so after Rechelorette,
it was like, I'm gonna give myself some time off,
and when Paradise came up, I'm like, oh no, I'm
gonna have to take more time off. But I think
I've just gotten to the point where I'm just gonna
accept it for what it is. I really want to
get back to flying. So the boys are just gonna
(15:20):
have to deal with it while it happens. But yeah,
it's just it's something that's hard to navigate. But I
think it's really something that I've missed for a really
long time. So I'm excited to get back into teaching.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh my gosh, Okay, that's so exciting. I was worried
that you were going to lead that conversation into like
so we're just gonna take like a semi permanent pause.
But you're actually getting back into it. So when are
you officially starting?
Speaker 5 (15:45):
So I have a really good friend that lives down
here I went to college with, and so he and
I are going to go back up and do reviewing
because I've been out of practice for almost a year,
which is the longest I've ever gone without flying.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So he's gonna take me back up very.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Soon, within the next week or so, and get back
in to hang at things, get back into like the
teaching brain because I've been like just all over the
place for the past two years. But I'm really excited
to get back in the air. And everyone's always like
all over my Instagram, like you gave up flying, and
I'm like, I promise I didn't. I just like needed
(16:21):
a second, so excited for everyone to like come along
in that journey as well.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Okay, so we know that Pilot peat was not in Paradise,
although we've all said on multiple podcasts we think that
he'd be a great Paradise cast member. He's like made
for reality TV, but we've only seen him in the
Bachelor role, you know, So wouldn't it been a cool thing?
And I don't know why I'm just hypothetically just coming
up with dates with you right now, But like if
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you and Pilot Pete both led a date on Bachelor
in Paradise where it was like girls team boys, team whatever,
and you're both flying separately in different.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Planes you're facing there, actually is a pilot Peat in
your nice Oh the.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Other pilot Pete two point oh, two point oh.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I heard this guy's a great dude too.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Do we like this new pilot Pete romantically?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Who knows? I mean, who knows?
Speaker 7 (17:17):
I think I do after all the good things I've
heard about him. He sounds like a cat.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
He's a great guy. He's a really great guy, and
he's funny.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I make you guys have a lot in common.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yes, and sometimes I feel like that could be a
good thing more a bad thing. So we'll have to
wait and see.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Rachel's good to see you. It's good to be here.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
He's Ben.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Who would have thought after our car ride, me and
Ashley were just talking like you guys were the first
people who found out I was going to Paradise.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well, no, that's not true. That's not true at all.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
In fact, you were still questioning in our car ride
if you're going to Paradise, And I think I was
in the camp of you should go.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I think you had already made your decision.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
You just didn't want to like tell us, yes, you're convinced,
you're a little freaked out about the idea, But we
were both in the camp of you should make this work.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yes, I was so on the fence.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I really wanted to go, but I kept thinking like,
is this the right thing to do?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Is it gonna work?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Is it gonna be just like embarrassing that I like
go again and if something didn't work out, But I'm
so happy I did it, like one of the best
decisions I ever made.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Okay, Rzel, this is such a hilarious vanity question. But
I know that the internet is taken quite the opinions
on your eyebrows being bleached, and you always have comebacks
for them. What's your ultimate comeback?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Here?
Speaker 5 (18:53):
The ultimate comeback? Well, someone said I looked like Boltimore
the other day, and I was like, well, is it
at least like in a hot way? But they're not
bleached in paradise. So it's just like a new It's
like a phase I'm going through.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Wait time, understand this is this is where I have
the most fun on this podcast. I have no idea
why or what is happening, Like, why would you your
eyebrows bleached?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I just bleach them.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
OK's just that it's just the thing.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I mean, That's what I'm saying, is I have I
don't keep up on these trends, and I don't understand
what's happening in the world. So like, it's just a
thing that you want to do. It's like cutting your
hair short or letting it grow out.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, so I just bleach them to match the blonde.
But normally when people have blonde hair, they bleach their
eyebrows to look darker. So everyone's really upset about the brows.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
But I think, do you, girl, I just keep doing
it now.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Do you kind of love just snapping back at people.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I just think it's funny. I'm like, why not, Like,
why not bleach them?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I don't know, Rachel.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I've known you since your time on the show, and
I would say this, I don't want to speak for you.
I've thoroughly enjoyed our times together, and I feel like
we've had moments where we've gotten to really have life
conversations and life moments where I've gotten to know you
better and appreciate you a ton. I think very highly
of you. So that's where I'm coming from in this statement. Okay,
(20:22):
when I first met you, I felt like you wouldn't
have handled the criticisms as well as you're handling them now. Like,
I think it would have really bothered you. I think
it probably would have kept you up at night. I
think it would have been one of those conversations we
would have had where You're like, I don't get it,
and I think I remember something similar when we talked
(20:45):
a couple of years ago, where I was like, it
happens to everybody, like You're never gonna do this thing right,
and you're just you got to build some Cali skin.
So can you talk to me a little bit about
how you've gotten to the point where you can do
this for yourself because you just want to also have
criticisms and clap back at them with like confidence and hilarity.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah. I mean it's been crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
I think I've went through like every phase you can
in the bachelor world. I think people, you know, they're
really excited for me, and then they really disliked me.
And I think just I can see where people are
coming from in each stage, and I think there were
times where I made mistakes and I can honestly understand
(21:28):
where the criticism's coming from. I think at this point,
I've done so much work on myself that this is
I think the first time I'm on the show where
I really feel like I'm bringing my true self completely forward,
and if people have like things to say about that,
like that's fine, because I really am so proud of
(21:48):
like how far I've come and who I am now.
So yeah, I mean, it's always going to be difficult,
and I think it's easier said right now than when
it starts airing. But I am really confident with whom
I brought to the beach, and I think it's like
my truest self.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
So I'm so happy about that, and I vibe that
very much. I concur with what Ben said for sure,
to change topics on something very scandalous, Are you willing
to talk scandal for a second?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I am all right, I don't know. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I don't think. I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Okay, it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
No, Ben probably hasn't been scrolling on Instagram over the
past twelve hours.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
We saw you with Clayton get pretty chummy at our
event in February, and it looked like you guys like
almost could have rekindled something. Right then you were having
like deep conversations. You shake your head, but like you know,
you got friendly in the in like a true friend way.
You know, it's like the first time you guys got
together since the dumping, and this past day or so,
(23:01):
there has been something that's come out about him. He's
been served with paternity papers of a paternity lawsuit from
an alleged pregnant X And it's not just that she's pregnant.
She's pregnant with twins.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You you're kidding. Wait, I'm I really, I'm just.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
What allegedly Well, when I heard about it, I just
think that's probably one of the craziest things I've ever heard. Again,
I guess we don't know completely what had happened, but
I just hope everyone you know, and figure it out
and so definitely insane.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
So we won't make Rachel get completely put on the spots.
I don't think she knows anything more than we do, right,
But I do have questions for the two of you.
So can I cause I don't know about this, Can
I play or just try to understand?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Of course, Rachel. This is what I do with Ashley
in most situations when it comes to pop culture or
just anything happening in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
World. Okay, what is a paternity lawsuit?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Okay, so without reading it, what I'm assuming it is
is that, like she's pregnant with twins, and she's allegedly
claiming that she's slept with Clayton in May, and he
is denying that they had any sexual encounter.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
So he has came out publicly and commented on this
and said he's not that he's denying, and.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Maybe not publicly, but like within the two of them,
and like so like in the paperwork, it's saying that
he's denying it.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Okay, So he's so in the paperwork, she's claiming that
it's his kids and that he said I'm that I
wasn't a part of this, and now she's saying, well,
you're going to have to be a part of this.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Is that how this plays out? Okay?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yes, So apparently on August first, she filed the lawsuit,
So it's been a while alleging that she's pregnant with
twins after engaging in sexual activity with Clayton on May twentieth.
The the kids are due in February twenty twenty four,
and she's saying that she hasn't been with anyone besides
him since March of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
Okay, So I'm trying to okay, and then the sources
of this are who this isn't like I don't know
the ones that we find at like grocery stores. These
are legitimate sources or this. We do know for certain
that this lawsuit has been filed.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It's via page six, and page six usually has you know,
it's usually pretty reliable. I'll continue with the with the
quotes here, it gets quite scandalous. So this is PG
almost r this is kind of our He's saying that
they only had oral sex that night.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Oh I didn't hear that.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
That's not how you make kids. I will say that
just for an it doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
The court filing includes screenshots of alleged tax from the
reality star, including the messages that include quote, I don't
believe you for a second. I legitimately hate you right now.
You have lost your mind. And I hope you think
about how terrible this is that you would subject me
to this. My personal hell would be having to be
(26:09):
part of your life.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Okay, so this just came out. What I'm understanding is
the story is breaking. Rachel knowing Clayton having some sort
of relationship with Clayton.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
How do you feel about this.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean, I guess my first thought is, this is
obviously something that's very public. I've seen a lot of commentary,
a lot of people, you know, taking sides. I know
Clayton does struggle with his mental health, so obviously that's
something like I thought about first, like hopefully doing okay.
(26:47):
No matter what the situation is, obviously we're all going
to kind of be seeing the development on it. I
just hope everyone is okay, because this is definitely like
a very crazy, crazy situation that I said, you can't
even make up.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
So we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, just to add into the story, basically, what we're
waiting on is him to take a paternity test, which
the lawsuit has said that she's offered more than fifty
times in runing to pay for one for him, but
he is unwilling to participate.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
Oh my, I you know, I don't know if this
is gonna come off crazy, I feel, I mean, I
I don't know enough about this situation to really have
any opinion whatsoever. But you know, what initially reminds me
of is like the moriy Show when they'd be like
you are the father or you're not the father, and
everybody celebrates or like that. That's kind of what I
feel like in my mind, that's what's coming to me.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Well, of course it is. Oh is that fair? Is
that fair?
Speaker 7 (27:46):
Because that's the only that's the only like tangible example
that I have of this happening.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is that crazy? Am I speaking like wild here?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:57):
And I feel like you're not the first one to
have made that reference.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, okay, I like, yeah, The Bachelor girl chat has
been blowing up. My seasons group chat has re emerged today.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
There's a lot of gifts. This is crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
The what I just really hope everyone's okay, because this
is just yeah, very very you.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
Know, you know, Rachel in uh, however long we've been
doing this podcast, the Bachelor world has never ceased to
give us stories, good, bad, and different. They've never no, never,
And so with that being said, it always gives us stories.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Rachel. We hope that you give us a story.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
Of love and peace and joy and happiness on the
beach in Mexico and onto the future. We hope you
are following Sue with the trends of the past. We're
leads fine love on the beach in Paradise.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Amen. Hopefully we'll see goodness Grace. Yeah, well, we'll have
you on soon.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But until then, I've been Ashley.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I've been Ben, and I'm Rachel.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yeah there you go, all right, bye, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
See Rachel Bye.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
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