June 11, 2025 • 50 mins
The new season of Bachelor in Paradise is coming… and we have a sneak peek directly from the source! Hannah Brown is hanging out with Ashley and giving us all the tea about the new beach location, the new production team, and her new role!
Find out exactly what Hannah’s doing as the “Champagne Girl” and what the vibes are like between the Goldens and the younger cast!
Plus, we get to hear all about her upcoming wedding and Hannah’s next novel!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Namous Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I have one of my very favorite guests and one
of my very favorite Bachelor alum here, Hannah Brown. You
guys know I fangirl of her. She is the bachelorettixtordinaire
who is now one of the cast members in a
way on Bachelor in Paradise. She also has an upcoming
wedding this summer, an upcoming book, The Girl Doesn't Slow Down.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Ben is not with us today, so we are going
to just have some girl chat me and Hannah Brown.
Welcome Hannah Brown, thanks so much for having me. You're welcome.
You're like, I gotta get this through. I gotta get
done with this. I have way too much to be doing,
probably a press tour right now.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah, we're in it, but it's it's so great. I'm
so glad to be here. I always love coming on
the show, so.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I can already predict like how this probably went last
minute back slur Paradise production was like, you know who,
we really need to get on the show to spice
it up, Hannah Brown, And then you were probably like
I can't wait to just slow down before my wedding. Also,
I have a book launch, so I'm not really slowing down.
And then they ask you and you can't turn it down,
(01:16):
of course, and you've probably just been a chicken with
your head cut off.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
That is a very good guess.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
How do I know Bachelor production so much? Well, they've
all changed out. I'd love to know for you, like,
how was it being a part of the show when
you didn't really know any producers?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It was very different. So I got a call from
a producer that I knew on the show, but wasn't
somebody that was really close with on my season.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I can predict there was there's like one remaining.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, and I was like, this is like we chat
and I was like she called me, like I love her,
but kind of like a okay. I had no idea
because I've been just kind of separated from it. I
hadn't been like really into all the news of everything,
and come to, you know, find out that it's you know,
a whole new production with new executive producers and all
(02:13):
new producers there. So you know, I got to talk
to the new executive producer and he's great and awesome,
And I would say though it was very interesting, like
going in and like you don't know anybody in a way,
I guess it is kind of It was good too,
I mean there was like pros and cons to it.
(02:33):
I think it definitely felt like the first day of
school in a way for me, because I want.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
My teachers at new school. It's like going from middle
school to high school.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, but it was still so great in it, but
I think it allowed it to be like more of
like a clean slate. But it did like for a second,
I'm like, how do I operate with these people? I
don't really know? But it ended up being wonderful and
I'm so glad it was a part of it. But
definitely like took a little second for me to get
(03:05):
used to instead of like just going back into it,
which is probably good because maybe I didn't like fully
lean into all my like old hand away and then
was able to kind of stay as I am now,
which I want to show up as like a new
version of myself. So yeah, pros and cons for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Tell us everything about the resort you've been to. Both
you've been to the old one and ply Es Candida
and now you've been to this new one in Costa Rica.
This one seems to be like more resorty for the cast.
They have air conditioning and there's two people per room.
It's not like a camping situation.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Tell us.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I feel like people who have been on Bachelor and
Paradise before would be so jealous because it's.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Like they looked beautiful the whole time because they could
go into their air conditioning room and like actually get ready,
and the resort it was like so beautiful and like
definitely an upgrade for the cast, just like overall.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Like living conditions. I mean, I kept hearing them be
like this is amazing. So yeah, very really pumped about it,
and it's just giving it like a fresh new look. Look.
I love Mexico, so I like am partials sometimes to
just I just I can sometimes just be loyal to
(04:29):
same the past. But at the same time, it was
really cool to be a part of this new and
exciting like change, and I think people are really gonna
like it.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Wells has always been the bartender there and now you're
the champagne girl, the bubbly girl, and I think it's
because like you are the most bubbly personality from the
franchise that they're like, oh, let's we have to get
her to run the bubbly bar. So how did you
guys kind of now favigate both of you working in
the same industry.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, well, I never like I've never made a proper
drink before, so there's no kind of like competing in
that way. Like he Wells does his job and does
his job well. But that was not trying to be funny.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
But you're not probably the first one that's on that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, he he's great, and you know, has been with
the show for so long and so has so much experience.
And I'm just coming in like bright eyed, bushy tail,
like I don't really know what a sister doing, but
I can figure out how to I mean, I can
figure out how to pop some bottles of champagne and
just like get the girls together and so kind of
(05:44):
how it's definitely two separate areas. And it's it's more
just especially what Wells does too, as we know, like
it's it's it's starting more conversation, getting people thinking in
a different way. And so I think Wells does such
a great job at that and I'm just like that
female perspective doing you know, something similar, but the different too,
(06:09):
because we just are two totally different personalities and have
different things. And even when we did have the same
you know, insight coming from like a more feminine energy
versus masculine energy, I think was helpful for the different
cast members at certain times.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Were you on at different times? Was one a night
bartender or one like a morning afternoon one one specializing
in rosset ceremonies, So I would.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Work in the beverage industry only on rose ceremony nights. Okay,
it was more just like rose ceremonies are a little
bit like just I feel like it just like elevates
it starting with you know, glass of champagne and being
able to just like get the conversation going, and then
of course, well it's doing his thing too. But yeah,
(07:04):
we were there were sometimes when we had the same
type of schedule and then other times different.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Did you get to kind of be on vacation a
little bit or at least work from your hotel room
when you when it wasn't ros ceremony day.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
So I am not just working rose ceremonies. And I
would do the best way to describe my job as
paradise relations. I kind of just did whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Are you feel? Like, what is like concierge.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Sierge like at on White Lotus, Like that was me
like this random stuff the whole time. And I feel like,
you know, as you know this how bachelor works, like
people were just kind of making it up as we go.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, And so I feel like my job, even for me,
came more clear just as the weeks went on. But
I was coming in fresh, like everything was new, and
so just trying to figure out dynamics of you know,
how best I could be utilized, Like it took a
(08:08):
little bit to kind of figure that out for everyone,
but that there were some breaks for sure, but just
the way that ship works, and it's kind of different
than I feel I have been in the past because
we were all at the same resort, like you know,
it was like a hot set in a way, and
so you kind of were I was ready at any
(08:30):
time kind of being the concierge paradise relations. So there
was like this like little edge of like, Okay, I
don't need to like golf and explore because I could
be needed at some point. So I wouldn't say it
was a vacation by okay, but I did you get
a good tan And there were definitely days where I
got to lay out by the pool or go on
(08:51):
beat walks, so that was great. But where we are
is pretty rural, right yeah, yeah, so it wasn't like
there was than much you really could do.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Uh huh Okay, So I know obviously you can't tell
us about couples, but let's do our best. So is
there going to be any flirtation between the Goldens and
the Youngins.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think that there could definitely be a possibility once
you see the cast. I mean, the Goldens are amazing
and they're just like up for anything, and that was
so fun. I know a lot of people have been
like concerned about, like, yeah, are we mixing goldens and yeah,
you know, the typical cast, and they bring so much
(09:42):
fun and they're just up for whatever. So that's kind
of all I can say. But look, it's a bunch
of single men and women who are out on the prowl,
so there's a lot of blurting going on at all times.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Hannah is like just a smile person when she talks,
so I can't say that her smile is super.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Telling here but it's a pretty big smile.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Heard that the Goldens are bigger partiers than the young Ends,
and this is something that doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Oh they are. They are so fun. I want to
hang out with the Goldens all the time. The cast
is so great, and I think it's really cool to
have that energy because just now with social media and like,
(10:36):
I think it needs to be even different from like
when you and I were on the show, Like people
care so much about how they're going to be portrayed
and like their image and just about the cameras, and
the Goldens couldn't care less. And it's awesome because having
been there, I feel like they just have so much
(10:58):
wisdom to be like life, y'all are taking this so
seriously and this is such an amazing opportunity that we have.
But they're so grateful and want to like take the
opportunity to like just really be something that they'll cherish
and grow from and find love and and I think
that was really needed to have that energy with some
(11:21):
of the you know, younger typical cast, because I get it,
like it is so hard to be, you know, specially
trying to date and navigate love for like the public eye,
and like, you know, you don't have as much control
over it because it is a TV show, but the
Goldens like just really we're such a added bonus for
(11:43):
just like the fun. But also I think for the
younger contestants to just be like, y'all, are y'all are
not doing something right because they're having way more fun
than you are, and like I feel like that really helped.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, So my theory on that is that the young
ones are looking.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
For well, first off, you're just not going to be
as comfortable in your skin at that age, and you
probably are when you're in your sixties. But in addition
to that, they are looking for somebody to like have.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Kids with, like do life with. And then the older ones.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Are looking for somebody just kind of like have fun
with and their last not last chapter.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I mean they're in their sixties most of.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Them, but yeah, no, there's not as much pressure. Yeah, yeah, totally.
I hadn't really thought of it that way, but you're right.
I think they're there and they're like I never would
have thought I would have had this opportunity for like
this second chance at love at this season in my life.
And so yeah, the pressure is not as much there.
(12:42):
They're like this is like such a gift instead.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Of like this is a serious percesess here.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, I'm like, oh my gosh, I've taken off. You
know a lot of people have to like take time
off their jobs, and you know that don't know how
the show's going to end up for them, and it's
not going to If they get to find love, they're great.
But what happens after him they don't. Is that going
to set them behind? Is it gonna what all it's
(13:08):
gonna tell? So you're totally right. I hadn't thought about that,
but I think just to help with the pressure having
the Goldens there, like just reminding them like this it's
so fun and it's it's such a cool opportunity to
be able to like the one thing you're doing for
(13:30):
you know, a month, is hanging out and really hopefully
there with people who are also really intentionally trying to date. Yeah,
it's so cool. I think it's such a cool experience
and fun to be able to be.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
A part of Who has more romance? Is it the
Goldens or the Onions Are there more on one side
than the other or is it kind of equally divided,
and then of course tell us how it is divided
in the house or is it not at all?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean they're they're together, I would say,
but just as we said, like, the Goldens don't have
as much pressure, so I wouldn't say that they they're
having so much fun. And then there's romance because it's
Bachelor in Paradise and there's romance and fun, and so
(14:20):
I would say that even though the show is new
and different, there's a different dynamics it being Costa Rica,
Like I'm involved, there's goldens, there's still a lot of
romance that people are going to see and a lot
of fun. So hopefully the answered your question with the
what I can.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Say, okay, okay, and then I know you're not gonna
be able to answer this, but with your hand of
brown smile.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Are there proposals? Why do I feel like there's a
less pressure of a proposal this time around.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I don't know whether it was the year break, but
for some reason, I feel like that's not necessarily the
goal right now.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I mean, I think that's the hope, you know, like
that's the hope, is that there are relationships that at
the end feel strong and confident about taking that next step.
But what I will say about this time just overall,
is with just this whole new like batch of people
(15:23):
with a different perspective, I do think people will see
a difference of it really is just kind of watching
these people do life, and it's it's kind of it's
it's not like as much pressure just in general. It's
like we want to help in any way possible to
(15:47):
facilitate people falling in love, but we're not going to
there's no like forcing people to do anything they don't
want to do. So yeah, it really it's it's cool
to see, like, you know, if you just let people
be themselves, like it's gonna be entertaining and you're you're
gonna see different dynamics. You're still going to have the
(16:08):
drama and the you know, questioning these big life choices
that you have in such a short amount of time
on the show, Like typically you're never even like thinking about,
you know, getting engaged in a month, and of course
everybody's going in with that on their you know, at
least on their mind, and it's just them having to
(16:29):
navigate how do I feel like where my relationship is?
So yeah, maybe maybe people won't feel as much like
everybody has internal pressure on themselves. But that's what you're
gonna see, is like the internal pressure and questions and
between these couples.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, did you make good friends with any of the
girls any of the guys?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You know, I did not know really anyone.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
They should have had Heather there with you, I know,
I know, right, Yeah, that would been fun.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That'd been a nice girl dynamic.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah. I like I said, the whole thing felt like
being you know, at a new school for the first time.
Everyone is so lovely and there's so many people that
I felt like I was more like a big sister
to people, like just coming in and being like, what's
going on? How are you feeling? Because like, typically it's
(17:40):
everyone's kind of in their own drama, and so even
though I think it's so awesome help even just like
being a contestant on on the Bachelor, like you make
friendships there, you're kind of going through the same things.
You can talk about it, but sometimes it could be
hard because it's like, Okay, I know you're going through it,
but I need somebody to talk to me. One that
(18:00):
was like able to understand what was going on, but like,
I don't have a relationship that I'm trying to like
navigate here in this Paradise world. So I definitely feel
like I am such a fan of so many of
the men and women that are people are going to
(18:21):
get to see, you know, go through their journey of love.
But I was more kind of that that role, if
that makes sense, not like because because the show and
like my what I hope is that it's not always
just about I'm trying to facilitate them finding love and
(18:42):
being a champion for that and greeting for them. But
we can be besties after, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, yeah, it's like you can fratnize with the cats basically.
Kind of all.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Right, So last question about Paradise Dale Moss and people
are kind of surprised to see him there.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
How is he?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
What do you like?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I think Dale is lovely and it would be really
cool for people to see him on the beach.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Okay, Okay, you were just talking about how you, you know,
didn't have to navigate your own relationship there were you
so thankful? You're like, I am so grateful that I'm
watching these people try to find love instead of being
the one trying to find it and just thanking God
for Adam at home.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, I mean it's really tough out there. Yeah, it's
just tough out there. And but then there was also
like it was really sweet to watch people fall in
love too, like that feeling and seeing that like giddiness
of people. Yeah, I feel like I'm in a very
healthy relationship, but there's nothing like when you're first.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Like somebody telling my friend yesterday because she feels like
everybody is like kind of going further in life personally
than she is, and she's feeling like left behind romantically
and like family wise, like kids, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
And I said, well, at least you get to experience
that like finding your person in the honeymoon stage of
the first time and we're all done with that.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah. No, it's so sweet and so cool to see.
And so I did love that, like being able to
like see people like be so giddy and nervous and
then like, yeah, have these like really awesome dates and
fall in love Like that was sweet to watch. And
I was like, oh, that's the best feeling and just
(20:44):
so thankful that like I'm in the season of life
that I'm at now, Like it gave me both of
like you know, looking at that and being like, this
is so cool to see people get to have these
beautiful moments and in a very like strange way, like
(21:07):
you know, it's kind of weird that you're like falling
in love with like cameras watching you everywhere, But that
makes it so cool and exciting for me because I'm like, Wow,
you're really going for it, and a lot of people
that would be really hard and like, y'allre like pushing yourself.
So I love that. But yeah, then it made me
really thankful to be where I'm at now because like
(21:30):
just being back on the show just felt like a
truly like this like redeentive thing, Like I didn't know
what I know now, and I've talked about this before.
I'm not like a, oh, there's just one person for you.
I don't that's not like what I fully like believe in.
(21:51):
And I do think like, man, if I would have
known what I know now, I think I probably would
have just done the whole experience differently. And and I
want to be able to like help steer people into
like really taking advantage of the thing. I had to
learn so much. I've had to do so much work.
(22:16):
It would have been hard for it to be different
at any time versus now, But like I loved being
able to be there and be like, wow, like these
people are going for this and can actually like get
the best out of the experience and not just be
like entertaining, Like I was great at being entertaining, But
it's being able to fully like fall in love Like
(22:37):
that was gonna be really hard for me now looking back,
knowing what I know now and now that I know
more like what love is. It just felt really cool
to be back in the place. It just full circle
was cool.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, So you and Adam have had some cute little
Instagram reels where he rates your dresses. It's been so
fun and so entertaining. What kind of dress? Have you
given him any hints as to what kind of dress
you're gonna be wearing?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And has his feedback? I need to know if his feedback.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Don't love my dress? Okay, gonna love my dress from
his feedback of things? Okay, okay, So I feel confident,
but his feedback has been so fun, Like I I
felt that that was just I was worried. I was like,
is he going to be like want something so different
than what I ended up choosing, but from the videos
(23:31):
and how he writed them, I think he's gonna really
love my dress.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Is there one dress?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Two dresses of course, and Dan two dresses.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And I didn't want to do it to either Hannah
when I was always gonna be like, no, I want
to find a dress that I love so much that
I don't want to take it off, and that is.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Not how it goes. Apparently, well, I found one that
I wanted to that I was like, I, nope, I
apparently have two styles that I feel just as confident in.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So for me, I like, I still love there's still
one that I loved the most.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Like yeah, same, same, yeah, But I.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Was talking and people are like it it can get
really annoying, especially with the type of dress that I have,
like it's gonna start to not feel comfortable, and so
I wanted to have something that I felt like I
could be really comfortable and that's also just like equally
as beautiful and it's still like very me. But yeah,
(24:34):
even like my welcome party dress is like basically another
wedding dress too. It's saus it's ridiculous, but it's okay, No.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's the best. Yeah, you need to fully embrace every look. Yeah,
it's a great time. And I will say that if
I wore my real wedding dress, the one that I
walked down the aisle, I wore it to the reception
for a bit and then and I said, when we
really started dancing and we really did the cake cutting,
(25:04):
I wanted to change that because I did want to
wear that dress for the first dance and all like
a lot of the ceremonial stuff. Let me tell you,
it was so huge. I had quite a hard time
navigating the room.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So as soon as I put the other one on,
which was.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Still a ball gown and still poofy, Yeah, it was
a huge relief. And you don't really even understand the
weight that comes with the big, big ball gown.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yes, well maybe do you from pageants.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Have ever done packed? I've never done.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I've never I never did a big ball gown.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Ever did a big ball gown? No, But I feel
like I could navigate a dress okay, but yeah, I
would say there's a little bit more volume to my dress.
So I'm like a little nervous about, like, yeah, how
to navigate that, because I want to do I want
to do our first dance in my I call it.
That's my dress. But I'm good. Yeah, I'm just going
(26:01):
to do it because I want.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You have to do it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, because that's my dress exactly, the.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Fun dress, the party dress. It's the party dress. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You were so kind to come to my baby sprinkle
last year where we talked about you deciding whether or
not you were going to do destination wedding, a smaller wedding.
You wanted to keep it pretty intimate, you have. You
eventually chose France. Yes, so tell us what you can
while still keeping something surprising when all the good stuff
hits Instagram.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, I mean I feel like a crazy person for
doing a money Oh, like what this was so dumb.
It's going to be It's gonna be so pretty, but like,
but also I didn't know how crazy this season of
life was going to be. Yeah, like I did, but didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
You did not know that they were going to ask
you on Paradise six weeks before you had your wedding.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, I had no idea and just what that kind
of like compounded on it, And I knew that even
like the press of the book was going to be
a lot. But I I think it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Once we get there, it is gonna be great. I
promise you have a wedding planner, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah, But I still like trust think about me. I'm
just like, if I think people think that I can,
I could be like so fun and just like I am,
I am the opposite of a go with the flow person.
I'm the absolute opposite. I want to be go with
the flop person. So I don't have the capacity to
(27:36):
handle all these things. So I feel like I'm a
type A stuck in a tight b experience right now and.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Likely the same person.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And I'm just stressed out because I can't do it.
But I want it done a certain way, and so
I'm some light little ball. I'm like, somebody just needs
to like I just need like somebody to like pop
my bubble so I can just be floaty. But I'm
not at all. So it has been a challenge. Once
(28:12):
we get there, it's going to be great. I understand
why people just go elope or go to the courthouse.
That's all.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, okay, as somebody who's obsessed with their wedding, and
this is people might judge me for this. Jared, and
I constantly say that our wedding was still better than
the day that our kids were born.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Why tell me why? It was legit just like a masterpiece.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It was executed exactly the way all your wildest dreams
like of your wedding and beyond. It was so well
done thanks to our wedding point our Troy Williams and
his whole team, like he had a team of seven
people in addition to him.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Okay, yeah, it was a romantic epic. It was just
exactly what.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
We wanted and and it was the day that I
remember more vividly than any other day probably. And when
we say it's better than like our kids' birthday, I go, like, Dawson,
I enjoy you today way more than I enjoyed you as.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
A one day old. You know, so I think it
makes sense. And also it's just like birthday is a
big deal, but it's a stressful, hectic day, and but
you learn to love your child.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's like doubles every single day. But anyway, you are
going to be so happy you did it the way
you did it. I know you will be.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
And I would, yeah, I would be bummed if I
really did just go to the Corehouse probably, But like
right now, and then this I'm like so much eesier.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, you probably just feel like a little out of
control too, since it's out of the country, so you
feel you can't like go there and put your hands
on it.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, Like, I think I'm going to be just as
surprised as like when you're like, it went exactly the
way I wanted to go. I'm like, nah, I don't
fully even know how it's going to go. I'm just
having to try to trust that it's gonna be great.
We have wedding planners that are amazing, and so that's
just hard for me.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
The last month or two is harder too, because you
thought that picking out the big things months ago was
gonna be the real planning part, but now you realize,
like there's these all these little nuances, and that's what
you worry about going according to plan. Now, most people
tell you you can't expect everything to go to according
to plan, and if you do, that's when you'll be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So don't do that. For some reason, ours is really went.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
However, our pictures went like way over, so we had
to rent out the space for an extra hour, to
which I was like.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Dad, Dad, we have to we have to add another hour.
Oh no, yeah, I mean I would have paid for
the extra hour. But also, hi Dad.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
For you you know, that's also a difference, Like you know,
we're taking on it more financially, so it's yeah, you
know that that brings another little pressure to everything too.
But it's going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I can't wait to be there. But I'm so excited about,
like I have to remind myself, like these are all
things that I've wanted to do, like being back on
TV in like this type of way, and having like
my second book come out, yeah, like our novel come out,
Like yeah, I'm just trying to remind myself to like
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be in this moment. And it's like all the things
that I've dreamed of happening just happening back to back
to back. So I'm super grateful and excited to be
on the road and doing this book tour soon and
meeting everybody I feel. I mean, we're kind of even
making it like my almost like Bachelor atte trip with
all my girls because it really is like right before
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the wedding and just embracing like all the beauty that
like life has given me. I have to like, sometimes
gratitude can be hard for me. I hate to say that,
but like I can just get so like in the
midst of life and can be critical. But I'm trying
to remind myself, like, this is all the things that
I've wanted to do, so just like try to be
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in it. Yeah, and when I do that, I feel
so much better.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah. I totally feel you on that. Sometimes you don't
realize you're living your dreams.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like you have to like take a
second and be like this. Ten years ago, I would
have never imagined I would have I would have been
here like this would my one of year old's self
would be like, oh my gosh, you did it, Like
this is crazy. I could have never even dropped that up.
I'm like either, But here we are.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
You and Adam are not living together right now.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
You talked about this a couple of months ago for
mostly religious reasons, right, Yeah, Yeah, so I would love
to know how that conversation went, and then we're going
to dive into the book. Yeah, but this is so
interesting to a lot of people out there. I remember
I used you as clickbait. I'm sorry for the podcast.
I was like, okay, I was like.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Click here to find that way. And we're living together
and there was like ten thousand clicks.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
It's definitely like a different situation because we had lived
together before. But we just our faith has been really
a big part of like our relationship and how we've
grown together as a couple. And you know, there were
so many things that we were trusting and like in
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our faith and like our beliefs, and and there's just
one thing that we were like, oh, like you know,
we've been together, doesn't really matter, and we just felt
convicted to just like, Okay, we're gonna like fully trust
God in this and the part of our relationship and
we could do it. And it's been like it's in
(34:06):
every way it's tough, but we're we believe that we'll
just have like blessings in our marriage for it and
not like it's not to make anybody feel bad for
not I mean we lived together for years, Like it
was just like what we felt for our relationship and
just where we were and in our spirit was the
best for us. And so yeah, we did it and
(34:28):
it's been great.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Is there any part of you that's like, oh, and
now we have to live together again, and I'm not
looking forward to that component of you.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
No, Adam is a great partner to live with, Like
he's like on it, like I'm I've been like I'm
so much. But we see each other like every every day.
So it's not you know, it's it's more just making
sure the things that we say that we value in
a line like actually match the way that we live
(34:59):
out our lif our life, and we kind of went
to the extremes of that, but you know, mm hmm, well,
always trying to shake things around.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
No, I love it. I think it's great. I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I love the traditional component to it. I told Jared
that we would not live together until we were engaged,
and that is what we did. I love that, and
I wouldn't have done even that necessarily. I could have
waited until we were married. But just because he didn't
have a home in la he was living with Nick
(35:31):
by all, and then Nick was like, I'm moving to
another house, and I was like, I'm not making you
live in.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Venice, so come on over you. I got a ring
on my.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Finger now, yeah, totally, No, it makes so much sense.
So Yeah, it's been it's been great. But also especially
like when I am, it's been so busy. It does
suck at some point because you're just like just one
your person with you, even if it's just to like
(36:04):
for the little moments and things. So you know, we're
getting close. So it's it's been good and we feel like,
you know, we were called to do that for a reason,
and we're excited.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You are living in the house that you guys bought. Yeah, okay,
so he will get out of the other place soon.
Did you sell Did you get rid of the other rental?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yes, we were just renting that place. He's in like
this amazing like short term rental almost like hotel that
he's insane yet, which has been nice because like he's
he's going to be kind of sad because it has
like every amenity. It's in like this perfect location. I'm
(36:48):
going to be sad. It has like a beautiful heated pool,
like sauna, cold plunge, pick a ball corner, look at
that little thing like it's amazing. In the room, like
he has like a that comes in like cleans's room
up every week. You know, so he's been loving that.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Oh wow, Okay, well, Hannah, the reason that you're here
really is to talk about your new book.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yes, you had your first novel come out, Mistakes We
Never Made.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It came out last year, and then you kind of
teas to us that there would be a follow up
of sorts, not a direct sequel, right, and that is
coming out in a few weeks. This one's called The
Four Engagement Rings of Sybil Rain. Yes, so can you
tease to us what this.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Book is about? And you have to read the last book.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
You do not have to read the last book to
read this one first. It's like in the same universe.
So the characters, you know, have some overlap, but totally
safe to start with the Four Engagement Rings, the Civil
Ragin and then you know reading the Stakes we never
made or just read one. But this book, the fun
(38:04):
part of it, like the light, the part that makes
it like this fun beach read gives very much like
Forgetting Sarah Marshall Vibes in a year ago was a
runaway bride and is like needing a much needed vaka
and so she decides to use her ticket vouchers that
she has that would have been her honeymoon to to
(38:27):
finally go and have some time to relax, and unfortunately
she runs into not one but two of her ex
fiances on the beach and has to just oh, yeah,
we got foreign gamers girls. That's right, she's got more
than me. Yes, she has to like figure out how
(38:52):
to navigate that. But really, what the book is about
is dealing with your past and being able to kind
of like learn to love yourself first so that you
can actually perceive the love that you actually deserve. And
(39:15):
I would say, like this book ended up being a
lot more personal than I thought it was going to
be because it's definitely been a journey. A lot of
people ask like, oh, look, is this based on your life.
I'm like, oh, thank god, this has not been my life.
But a lot of the thoughts and feelings that Sybil's had,
especially when it comes to commitment and being with a
man that's you know, so great for her, but feeling
(39:37):
like she can't fully like her past defines her in
certain ways. Like I've really struggled with that, and especially
in this relationship that I'm in now, there were years
and seasons where gosh, just my mistakes and beliefs about
myself and beliefs about love. It really hindered me from
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being able to you see what was in front of
me and fully receive it. And so Sybil definitely has
that part of me that when people ask, like, how
much of the book is you, I'm like, there's a
part of that that is definitely like things that I've
struggled with and to have overcome and it's been really
(40:19):
cool to like overcome them and get to like have
Sybil had that same happily ever after experience too. So
that's what the real book is about. But it has
all the fun, you know parts of the Beach Tree
that makes you just want to like read it in
one setting, preferably you know, with a nice you know,
(40:44):
cocktail in hand with some pool service. But uh, I'm
really excited for people to read it. I think they're
really gonna love it. And I feel like it was,
you know, a labor of love and things that after
the first book people like, we want to have we
need to know about Sybil, so they'll have a lot
of those questions answered. If you did read the first book,
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and if you didn't, like you're going to have this
fresh new book and character to grow to love.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So obviously you relate to the main character. Now I
have to ask what the four ex fiances? Did you
kind of model them after four x's in your life?
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Not really, I've been asked this once before and No,
I feel like one of the characters is definitely I
think some of the goodness of him comes from my
fiance Adam, like just that character. There are parts of
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him that I definitely how he can like hold Sybil
in certain ways. It's definitely how I feel like Adam
can navigate life with me. And I will say that
there are are other characters that, yeah, I mean, I like,
they're not like fully based off one person, but there
(42:07):
could be people that people could maybe be like, oh,
it's kind of based off this guy who knew me
a little, But not not anything that I'm like this character,
I just like, may have changed their name and they
have all the same little quirks and personalities and would
do the same things. No, but definitely had some inspiration
from some people in my past. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
When Hannah Brown writes a book, people want to know, like,
it's a Taylor Swift song?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Is this about Peter Tyler? Jed her current?
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
All right, So when does it come out and people
can buy it anywhere books are sold.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, y'all pre order now, please, you can pre order
wherever books are sold. But it comes out June twenty fourth,
so I will be also going on a book tour
this time yet again right before the wedding, so you
guys can check that out. I'll have more information on
my Instagram of like where all the stops are. But
(43:16):
book comes out June twenty fourth, you can get wherever.
I'm so excited for you guys to read it and
then to be able to see everybody out on the
road again.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And finally, when you were writing this book, how did
you like How was it different than the first process
of writing a novel?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Which one did you prefer more?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
The first one felt like easier in a weird way,
like it just I don't know, it just was a
little bit of an easier process. I definitely still had
pressure on myself, don't let me wrong. I don't know
how to not like put extreme amounts of pressure and
stress on myself. But the second one, I just really
(43:59):
was shocked and so so proud of how everybody loved
the first one that I really wanted to make sure
this one was, you know, even better. In some way.
And I think because I related to Sybil even more.
She's like the messier parts of me that are like
entertaining for people to watch, but when it comes to
like your own life like kind of like to have
to like navigate those types of thoughts and feelings. And
(44:23):
she's a little bit more nuanced of a character, and
I think people are going to love her, but she's
messy and she like makes the wrong decisions sometimes with relationships,
and you're like, come on, girl. So it was very
important for me to get her right to where it's like, gosh,
(44:45):
you understand why she does the things that she does,
like you have like compassion for her and you're rooting
for her. So it was a little bit more of
a challenging task than the first one was. But I
do think it with the hell of my co author Emily,
like where we really I think stretched as far as
(45:07):
the writing and even like just in different details. I
feel like the book is set in Hawaii, so even
just like really making setting more of like a character
in itself, and that it kind of just helps like
get people really in the world in a more lush way.
(45:28):
I just feel like there was just a lot more pressure,
but also like this want to even just be better
than the first book. And I feel like people who
have read it have really noticed that too, which has
been such a compliment and like we really all the
hard work and the moments that were stressful was all
worth it.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
And as I love to compare you to Taylor Swift,
do you feel that now as a New York Times
best Selling author, USA Today best Selling author, do you
feel like every book needs to top itself? Does it
get stressful if it if it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Yeah, So, knowing this season this was going to be in,
I had to have that like conversation on myself and
my team of like why am I doing this? And
in a past it was just I just want to
be able to say I've done the thing and I
really want to continue being an author, and I also
(46:25):
want to enjoy this season, and so I can have
to try to learn to not put so much pressure
on myself. It's like it has to be I want
to know that my work is actually better than the
other one. But as far as like does it have
to to always top like in other people's eyes or
from the world, I have to let that go. But
(46:47):
as far as what I know, the quality of my work, Like, yeah,
I do want it to always be better than the last.
Like that is important to me. But as far as like,
there's so much that goes into these like lists and
things that are not just is it's actually way more
complicated than people think, Like I had to let that
(47:07):
go and like just be proud of the work that
I'm doing and try to be in this season of
life where I am getting married at this season and
doing everything I can to get this book in people's
hands because I am really proud of it. And I
think if people love the first one, they're going to
love this one even more. And if you're intrigued, read
this book, because I'm like, I think it's even better
(47:28):
than the first one. So yeah, that's I'm trying to
find that balance of like truly just being proud of
myself for knowing that I'm getting better and that being enough.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
And you're going to be on Paradise soon after this
book launches, so that.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Will get your name out there again and it could
even numbers.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Why stop it, But you're right, what's important is that
you feel like it's a better piece of work, piece
of art, and we're.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Really happy for you.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
You're just killing it like everything, Hannah Brown rocks it.
I was so excited to see you going on Paradise.
You do make me want to watch it more.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
And I feel like that's the production. How am I
feeling about going just.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Like watching new like no not about me?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Oh yeah, like no, yeah, yeah, like watching it with
a new production crew. Yeah, Like it's like melancholy. Yeah,
I mean it's so weird because I've always felt like
I'm rooting for the people behind the scenes because they
were the ones that like set me up with this
life that I have now, so I love them so much.
So I do feel like I'll be a little bit
(48:37):
detached for it, But I also really want the show
to do well because I want the whole franchise to
continue totally. And if it.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Doesn't do well, then, you know, that would be so
sad to have this. Yeah, and I don't think it'll
ever like go away forever, but if it does go
away for a little while, you know, still, so it
would it would be bizarre.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
I think people are going to be really excited and
it There's going to be a lot of newness and
just all the things that Bachelor and Paradise is but
just with like some fresh eyes, and so I don't know,
give it, give.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
It a show.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Oh you know, I'm giving it a shot. I could
never have Paradise on and not watch it. Plus I
have the show, but I love Paradise. I hope it's
successful in every way, from being entertaining and fun and
lighthearted because that's the best part of it is how
communic it is and self aware. And then I hope
that we get some good couples out of it too,
some long lasting couples. Yes, And then I would love
(49:34):
for you to come back after the wedding to tell
us that it was the best day of your life,
and then to also tell us about how you have
two uteruses, which I think.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
You told me about in person. This isn't news. I've
known about her too.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
That's all pictures.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
No, But that's like a whole other conversation because I
love talking about women's health, and you had been diagnosed
with PCOS beforehand, and now that you guys are married
and probably gonna start trying to have kids, that'll be
a perfect podcast.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
We'll do that all together already. You are the best.
Thank you so much for spending so much time with us.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
My gosh, of course no, I'm always always love getting
to catch up and yeah, excited to talk soon again.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
All right, see yea bye, thank you. All right, guys,
that's been the wonderful Hannah Brown. We have so much
coming from her this summer, and we will talk to
you next time.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
We missed. Ben and I have been Ashley Seya.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Namous Podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I have one of my very favorite guests and one
of my very favorite Bachelor alum here, Hannah Brown. You
guys know I fangirl of her. She is the bachelorettixtordinaire
who is now one of the cast members in a
way on Bachelor in Paradise. She also has an upcoming
wedding this summer, an upcoming book, The Girl Doesn't Slow Down.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Ben is not with us today, so we are going
to just have some girl chat me and Hannah Brown.
Welcome Hannah Brown, thanks so much for having me. You're welcome.
You're like, I gotta get this through. I gotta get
done with this. I have way too much to be doing,
probably a press tour right now.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Yeah, we're in it, but it's it's so great. I'm
so glad to be here. I always love coming on
the show, so.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I can already predict like how this probably went last
minute back slur Paradise production was like, you know who,
we really need to get on the show to spice
it up, Hannah Brown, And then you were probably like
I can't wait to just slow down before my wedding. Also,
I have a book launch, so I'm not really slowing down.
And then they ask you and you can't turn it down,
(01:16):
of course, and you've probably just been a chicken with
your head cut off.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
That is a very good guess.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
How do I know Bachelor production so much? Well, they've
all changed out. I'd love to know for you, like,
how was it being a part of the show when
you didn't really know any producers?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
It was very different. So I got a call from
a producer that I knew on the show, but wasn't
somebody that was really close with on my season.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I can predict there was there's like one remaining.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, and I was like, this is like we chat
and I was like she called me, like I love her,
but kind of like a okay. I had no idea
because I've been just kind of separated from it. I
hadn't been like really into all the news of everything,
and come to, you know, find out that it's you know,
a whole new production with new executive producers and all
(02:13):
new producers there. So you know, I got to talk
to the new executive producer and he's great and awesome,
And I would say though it was very interesting, like
going in and like you don't know anybody in a way,
I guess it is kind of It was good too,
I mean there was like pros and cons to it.
(02:33):
I think it definitely felt like the first day of
school in a way for me, because I want.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
My teachers at new school. It's like going from middle
school to high school.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, but it was still so great in it, but
I think it allowed it to be like more of
like a clean slate. But it did like for a second,
I'm like, how do I operate with these people? I
don't really know? But it ended up being wonderful and
I'm so glad it was a part of it. But
definitely like took a little second for me to get
(03:05):
used to instead of like just going back into it,
which is probably good because maybe I didn't like fully
lean into all my like old hand away and then
was able to kind of stay as I am now,
which I want to show up as like a new
version of myself. So yeah, pros and cons for sure.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Tell us everything about the resort you've been to. Both
you've been to the old one and ply Es Candida
and now you've been to this new one in Costa Rica.
This one seems to be like more resorty for the cast.
They have air conditioning and there's two people per room.
It's not like a camping situation.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Tell us.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I feel like people who have been on Bachelor and
Paradise before would be so jealous because it's.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Like they looked beautiful the whole time because they could
go into their air conditioning room and like actually get ready,
and the resort it was like so beautiful and like
definitely an upgrade for the cast, just like overall.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Like living conditions. I mean, I kept hearing them be
like this is amazing. So yeah, very really pumped about it,
and it's just giving it like a fresh new look. Look.
I love Mexico, so I like am partials sometimes to
just I just I can sometimes just be loyal to
(04:29):
same the past. But at the same time, it was
really cool to be a part of this new and
exciting like change, and I think people are really gonna
like it.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Wells has always been the bartender there and now you're
the champagne girl, the bubbly girl, and I think it's
because like you are the most bubbly personality from the
franchise that they're like, oh, let's we have to get
her to run the bubbly bar. So how did you
guys kind of now favigate both of you working in
the same industry.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, well, I never like I've never made a proper
drink before, so there's no kind of like competing in
that way. Like he Wells does his job and does
his job well. But that was not trying to be funny.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
But you're not probably the first one that's on that.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, he he's great, and you know, has been with
the show for so long and so has so much experience.
And I'm just coming in like bright eyed, bushy tail,
like I don't really know what a sister doing, but
I can figure out how to I mean, I can
figure out how to pop some bottles of champagne and
just like get the girls together and so kind of
(05:44):
how it's definitely two separate areas. And it's it's more
just especially what Wells does too, as we know, like
it's it's it's starting more conversation, getting people thinking in
a different way. And so I think Wells does such
a great job at that and I'm just like that
female perspective doing you know, something similar, but the different too,
(06:09):
because we just are two totally different personalities and have
different things. And even when we did have the same
you know, insight coming from like a more feminine energy
versus masculine energy, I think was helpful for the different
cast members at certain times.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Were you on at different times? Was one a night
bartender or one like a morning afternoon one one specializing
in rosset ceremonies, So I would.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Work in the beverage industry only on rose ceremony nights. Okay,
it was more just like rose ceremonies are a little
bit like just I feel like it just like elevates
it starting with you know, glass of champagne and being
able to just like get the conversation going, and then
of course, well it's doing his thing too. But yeah,
(07:04):
we were there were sometimes when we had the same
type of schedule and then other times different.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Did you get to kind of be on vacation a
little bit or at least work from your hotel room
when you when it wasn't ros ceremony day.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
So I am not just working rose ceremonies. And I
would do the best way to describe my job as
paradise relations. I kind of just did whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Are you feel? Like, what is like concierge.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Sierge like at on White Lotus, Like that was me
like this random stuff the whole time. And I feel like,
you know, as you know this how bachelor works, like
people were just kind of making it up as we go.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, And so I feel like my job, even for me,
came more clear just as the weeks went on. But
I was coming in fresh, like everything was new, and
so just trying to figure out dynamics of you know,
how best I could be utilized, Like it took a
(08:08):
little bit to kind of figure that out for everyone,
but that there were some breaks for sure, but just
the way that ship works, and it's kind of different
than I feel I have been in the past because
we were all at the same resort, like you know,
it was like a hot set in a way, and
so you kind of were I was ready at any
(08:30):
time kind of being the concierge paradise relations. So there
was like this like little edge of like, Okay, I
don't need to like golf and explore because I could
be needed at some point. So I wouldn't say it
was a vacation by okay, but I did you get
a good tan And there were definitely days where I
got to lay out by the pool or go on
(08:51):
beat walks, so that was great. But where we are
is pretty rural, right yeah, yeah, so it wasn't like
there was than much you really could do.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Uh huh Okay, So I know obviously you can't tell
us about couples, but let's do our best. So is
there going to be any flirtation between the Goldens and
the Youngins.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think that there could definitely be a possibility once
you see the cast. I mean, the Goldens are amazing
and they're just like up for anything, and that was
so fun. I know a lot of people have been
like concerned about, like, yeah, are we mixing goldens and yeah,
you know, the typical cast, and they bring so much
(09:42):
fun and they're just up for whatever. So that's kind
of all I can say. But look, it's a bunch
of single men and women who are out on the prowl,
so there's a lot of blurting going on at all times.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Hannah is like just a smile person when she talks,
so I can't say that her smile is super.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Telling here but it's a pretty big smile.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Heard that the Goldens are bigger partiers than the young Ends,
and this is something that doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Oh they are. They are so fun. I want to
hang out with the Goldens all the time. The cast
is so great, and I think it's really cool to
have that energy because just now with social media and like,
(10:36):
I think it needs to be even different from like
when you and I were on the show, Like people
care so much about how they're going to be portrayed
and like their image and just about the cameras, and
the Goldens couldn't care less. And it's awesome because having
been there, I feel like they just have so much
(10:58):
wisdom to be like life, y'all are taking this so
seriously and this is such an amazing opportunity that we have.
But they're so grateful and want to like take the
opportunity to like just really be something that they'll cherish
and grow from and find love and and I think
that was really needed to have that energy with some
(11:21):
of the you know, younger typical cast, because I get it,
like it is so hard to be, you know, specially
trying to date and navigate love for like the public eye,
and like, you know, you don't have as much control
over it because it is a TV show, but the
Goldens like just really we're such a added bonus for
(11:43):
just like the fun. But also I think for the
younger contestants to just be like, y'all, are y'all are
not doing something right because they're having way more fun
than you are, and like I feel like that really helped.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, So my theory on that is that the young
ones are looking.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
For well, first off, you're just not going to be
as comfortable in your skin at that age, and you
probably are when you're in your sixties. But in addition
to that, they are looking for somebody to like have.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Kids with, like do life with. And then the older ones.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Are looking for somebody just kind of like have fun
with and their last not last chapter.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I mean they're in their sixties most of.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Them, but yeah, no, there's not as much pressure. Yeah, yeah, totally.
I hadn't really thought of it that way, but you're right.
I think they're there and they're like I never would
have thought I would have had this opportunity for like
this second chance at love at this season in my life.
And so yeah, the pressure is not as much there.
(12:42):
They're like this is like such a gift instead.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Of like this is a serious percesess here.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, I'm like, oh my gosh, I've taken off. You
know a lot of people have to like take time
off their jobs, and you know that don't know how
the show's going to end up for them, and it's
not going to If they get to find love, they're great.
But what happens after him they don't. Is that going
to set them behind? Is it gonna what all it's
(13:08):
gonna tell? So you're totally right. I hadn't thought about that,
but I think just to help with the pressure having
the Goldens there, like just reminding them like this it's
so fun and it's it's such a cool opportunity to
be able to like the one thing you're doing for
(13:30):
you know, a month, is hanging out and really hopefully
there with people who are also really intentionally trying to date. Yeah,
it's so cool. I think it's such a cool experience
and fun to be able to be.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
A part of Who has more romance? Is it the
Goldens or the Onions Are there more on one side
than the other or is it kind of equally divided,
and then of course tell us how it is divided
in the house or is it not at all?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean they're they're together, I would say,
but just as we said, like, the Goldens don't have
as much pressure, so I wouldn't say that they they're
having so much fun. And then there's romance because it's
Bachelor in Paradise and there's romance and fun, and so
(14:20):
I would say that even though the show is new
and different, there's a different dynamics it being Costa Rica,
Like I'm involved, there's goldens, there's still a lot of
romance that people are going to see and a lot
of fun. So hopefully the answered your question with the
what I can.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Say, okay, okay, and then I know you're not gonna
be able to answer this, but with your hand of
brown smile.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Are there proposals? Why do I feel like there's a
less pressure of a proposal this time around.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I don't know whether it was the year break, but
for some reason, I feel like that's not necessarily the
goal right now.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I mean, I think that's the hope, you know, like
that's the hope, is that there are relationships that at
the end feel strong and confident about taking that next step.
But what I will say about this time just overall,
is with just this whole new like batch of people
(15:23):
with a different perspective, I do think people will see
a difference of it really is just kind of watching
these people do life, and it's it's kind of it's
it's not like as much pressure just in general. It's
like we want to help in any way possible to
(15:47):
facilitate people falling in love, but we're not going to
there's no like forcing people to do anything they don't
want to do. So yeah, it really it's it's cool
to see, like, you know, if you just let people
be themselves, like it's gonna be entertaining and you're you're
gonna see different dynamics. You're still going to have the
(16:08):
drama and the you know, questioning these big life choices
that you have in such a short amount of time
on the show, Like typically you're never even like thinking about,
you know, getting engaged in a month, and of course
everybody's going in with that on their you know, at
least on their mind, and it's just them having to
(16:29):
navigate how do I feel like where my relationship is?
So yeah, maybe maybe people won't feel as much like
everybody has internal pressure on themselves. But that's what you're
gonna see, is like the internal pressure and questions and
between these couples.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, did you make good friends with any of the
girls any of the guys?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
You know, I did not know really anyone.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
They should have had Heather there with you, I know,
I know, right, Yeah, that would been fun.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That'd been a nice girl dynamic.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Yeah. I like I said, the whole thing felt like
being you know, at a new school for the first time.
Everyone is so lovely and there's so many people that
I felt like I was more like a big sister
to people, like just coming in and being like, what's
going on? How are you feeling? Because like, typically it's
(17:40):
everyone's kind of in their own drama, and so even
though I think it's so awesome help even just like
being a contestant on on the Bachelor, like you make
friendships there, you're kind of going through the same things.
You can talk about it, but sometimes it could be
hard because it's like, Okay, I know you're going through it,
but I need somebody to talk to me. One that
(18:00):
was like able to understand what was going on, but like,
I don't have a relationship that I'm trying to like
navigate here in this Paradise world. So I definitely feel
like I am such a fan of so many of
the men and women that are people are going to
(18:21):
get to see, you know, go through their journey of love.
But I was more kind of that that role, if
that makes sense, not like because because the show and
like my what I hope is that it's not always
just about I'm trying to facilitate them finding love and
(18:42):
being a champion for that and greeting for them. But
we can be besties after, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Okay, yeah, it's like you can fratnize with the cats basically.
Kind of all.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Right, So last question about Paradise Dale Moss and people
are kind of surprised to see him there.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
How is he?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
What do you like?
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I think Dale is lovely and it would be really
cool for people to see him on the beach.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Okay, Okay, you were just talking about how you, you know,
didn't have to navigate your own relationship there were you
so thankful? You're like, I am so grateful that I'm
watching these people try to find love instead of being
the one trying to find it and just thanking God
for Adam at home.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, I mean it's really tough out there. Yeah, it's
just tough out there. And but then there was also
like it was really sweet to watch people fall in
love too, like that feeling and seeing that like giddiness
of people. Yeah, I feel like I'm in a very
healthy relationship, but there's nothing like when you're first.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Like somebody telling my friend yesterday because she feels like
everybody is like kind of going further in life personally
than she is, and she's feeling like left behind romantically
and like family wise, like kids, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
And I said, well, at least you get to experience
that like finding your person in the honeymoon stage of
the first time and we're all done with that.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah. No, it's so sweet and so cool to see.
And so I did love that, like being able to
like see people like be so giddy and nervous and
then like, yeah, have these like really awesome dates and
fall in love Like that was sweet to watch. And
I was like, oh, that's the best feeling and just
(20:44):
so thankful that like I'm in the season of life
that I'm at now, Like it gave me both of
like you know, looking at that and being like, this
is so cool to see people get to have these
beautiful moments and in a very like strange way, like
(21:07):
you know, it's kind of weird that you're like falling
in love with like cameras watching you everywhere, But that
makes it so cool and exciting for me because I'm like, Wow,
you're really going for it, and a lot of people
that would be really hard and like, y'allre like pushing yourself.
So I love that. But yeah, then it made me
really thankful to be where I'm at now because like
(21:30):
just being back on the show just felt like a
truly like this like redeentive thing, Like I didn't know
what I know now, and I've talked about this before.
I'm not like a, oh, there's just one person for you.
I don't that's not like what I fully like believe in.
(21:51):
And I do think like, man, if I would have
known what I know now, I think I probably would
have just done the whole experience differently. And and I
want to be able to like help steer people into
like really taking advantage of the thing. I had to
learn so much. I've had to do so much work.
(22:16):
It would have been hard for it to be different
at any time versus now, But like I loved being
able to be there and be like, wow, like these
people are going for this and can actually like get
the best out of the experience and not just be
like entertaining, Like I was great at being entertaining, But
it's being able to fully like fall in love Like
(22:37):
that was gonna be really hard for me now looking back,
knowing what I know now and now that I know
more like what love is. It just felt really cool
to be back in the place. It just full circle
was cool.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, So you and Adam have had some cute little
Instagram reels where he rates your dresses. It's been so
fun and so entertaining. What kind of dress? Have you
given him any hints as to what kind of dress
you're gonna be wearing?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
And has his feedback? I need to know if his feedback.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Don't love my dress? Okay, gonna love my dress from
his feedback of things? Okay, okay, So I feel confident,
but his feedback has been so fun, Like I I
felt that that was just I was worried. I was like,
is he going to be like want something so different
than what I ended up choosing, but from the videos
(23:31):
and how he writed them, I think he's gonna really
love my dress.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Is there one dress?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Two dresses of course, and Dan two dresses.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
And I didn't want to do it to either Hannah
when I was always gonna be like, no, I want
to find a dress that I love so much that
I don't want to take it off, and that is.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Not how it goes. Apparently, well, I found one that
I wanted to that I was like, I, nope, I
apparently have two styles that I feel just as confident in.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So for me, I like, I still love there's still
one that I loved the most.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Like yeah, same, same, yeah, But I.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Was talking and people are like it it can get
really annoying, especially with the type of dress that I have,
like it's gonna start to not feel comfortable, and so
I wanted to have something that I felt like I
could be really comfortable and that's also just like equally
as beautiful and it's still like very me. But yeah,
(24:34):
even like my welcome party dress is like basically another
wedding dress too. It's saus it's ridiculous, but it's okay, No.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
It's the best. Yeah, you need to fully embrace every look. Yeah,
it's a great time. And I will say that if
I wore my real wedding dress, the one that I
walked down the aisle, I wore it to the reception
for a bit and then and I said, when we
really started dancing and we really did the cake cutting,
(25:04):
I wanted to change that because I did want to
wear that dress for the first dance and all like
a lot of the ceremonial stuff. Let me tell you,
it was so huge. I had quite a hard time
navigating the room.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So as soon as I put the other one on,
which was.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Still a ball gown and still poofy, Yeah, it was
a huge relief. And you don't really even understand the
weight that comes with the big, big ball gown.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yes, well maybe do you from pageants.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Have ever done packed? I've never done.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I've never I never did a big ball gown.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Ever did a big ball gown? No, But I feel
like I could navigate a dress okay, but yeah, I
would say there's a little bit more volume to my dress.
So I'm like a little nervous about, like, yeah, how
to navigate that, because I want to do I want
to do our first dance in my I call it.
That's my dress. But I'm good. Yeah, I'm just going
(26:01):
to do it because I want.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
You have to do it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Yeah, because that's my dress exactly, the.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Fun dress, the party dress. It's the party dress. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You were so kind to come to my baby sprinkle
last year where we talked about you deciding whether or
not you were going to do destination wedding, a smaller wedding.
You wanted to keep it pretty intimate, you have. You
eventually chose France. Yes, so tell us what you can
while still keeping something surprising when all the good stuff
hits Instagram.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Yeah, I mean I feel like a crazy person for
doing a money Oh, like what this was so dumb.
It's going to be It's gonna be so pretty, but like,
but also I didn't know how crazy this season of
life was going to be. Yeah, like I did, but didn't.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
You did not know that they were going to ask
you on Paradise six weeks before you had your wedding.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
No, I had no idea and just what that kind
of like compounded on it, And I knew that even
like the press of the book was going to be
a lot. But I I think it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Once we get there, it is gonna be great. I
promise you have a wedding planner, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Yeah, But I still like trust think about me. I'm
just like, if I think people think that I can,
I could be like so fun and just like I am,
I am the opposite of a go with the flow person.
I'm the absolute opposite. I want to be go with
the flop person. So I don't have the capacity to
(27:36):
handle all these things. So I feel like I'm a
type A stuck in a tight b experience right now and.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Likely the same person.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
And I'm just stressed out because I can't do it.
But I want it done a certain way, and so
I'm some light little ball. I'm like, somebody just needs
to like I just need like somebody to like pop
my bubble so I can just be floaty. But I'm
not at all. So it has been a challenge. Once
(28:12):
we get there, it's going to be great. I understand
why people just go elope or go to the courthouse.
That's all.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, okay, as somebody who's obsessed with their wedding, and
this is people might judge me for this. Jared, and
I constantly say that our wedding was still better than
the day that our kids were born.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Why tell me why? It was legit just like a masterpiece.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It was executed exactly the way all your wildest dreams
like of your wedding and beyond. It was so well
done thanks to our wedding point our Troy Williams and
his whole team, like he had a team of seven
people in addition to him.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Okay, yeah, it was a romantic epic. It was just
exactly what.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
We wanted and and it was the day that I
remember more vividly than any other day probably. And when
we say it's better than like our kids' birthday, I go, like, Dawson,
I enjoy you today way more than I enjoyed you as.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
A one day old. You know, so I think it
makes sense. And also it's just like birthday is a
big deal, but it's a stressful, hectic day, and but
you learn to love your child.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's like doubles every single day. But anyway, you are
going to be so happy you did it the way
you did it. I know you will be.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
And I would, yeah, I would be bummed if I
really did just go to the Corehouse probably, But like
right now, and then this I'm like so much eesier.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, you probably just feel like a little out of
control too, since it's out of the country, so you
feel you can't like go there and put your hands
on it.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Yeah, Like, I think I'm going to be just as
surprised as like when you're like, it went exactly the
way I wanted to go. I'm like, nah, I don't
fully even know how it's going to go. I'm just
having to try to trust that it's gonna be great.
We have wedding planners that are amazing, and so that's
just hard for me.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
The last month or two is harder too, because you
thought that picking out the big things months ago was
gonna be the real planning part, but now you realize,
like there's these all these little nuances, and that's what
you worry about going according to plan. Now, most people
tell you you can't expect everything to go to according
to plan, and if you do, that's when you'll be disappointed.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So don't do that. For some reason, ours is really went.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
However, our pictures went like way over, so we had
to rent out the space for an extra hour, to
which I was like.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Dad, Dad, we have to we have to add another hour.
Oh no, yeah, I mean I would have paid for
the extra hour. But also, hi Dad.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
For you you know, that's also a difference, Like you know,
we're taking on it more financially, so it's yeah, you
know that that brings another little pressure to everything too.
But it's going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
It's gonna be amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I can't wait to be there. But I'm so excited about,
like I have to remind myself, like these are all
things that I've wanted to do, like being back on
TV in like this type of way, and having like
my second book come out, yeah, like our novel come out,
Like yeah, I'm just trying to remind myself to like
(31:26):
be in this moment. And it's like all the things
that I've dreamed of happening just happening back to back
to back. So I'm super grateful and excited to be
on the road and doing this book tour soon and
meeting everybody I feel. I mean, we're kind of even
making it like my almost like Bachelor atte trip with
all my girls because it really is like right before
(31:48):
the wedding and just embracing like all the beauty that
like life has given me. I have to like, sometimes
gratitude can be hard for me. I hate to say that,
but like I can just get so like in the
midst of life and can be critical. But I'm trying
to remind myself, like, this is all the things that
I've wanted to do, so just like try to be
(32:10):
in it. Yeah, and when I do that, I feel
so much better.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah. I totally feel you on that. Sometimes you don't
realize you're living your dreams.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like you have to like take a
second and be like this. Ten years ago, I would
have never imagined I would have I would have been
here like this would my one of year old's self
would be like, oh my gosh, you did it, Like
this is crazy. I could have never even dropped that up.
I'm like either, But here we are.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
You and Adam are not living together right now.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
You talked about this a couple of months ago for
mostly religious reasons, right, Yeah, Yeah, so I would love
to know how that conversation went, and then we're going
to dive into the book. Yeah, but this is so
interesting to a lot of people out there. I remember
I used you as clickbait. I'm sorry for the podcast.
I was like, okay, I was like.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Click here to find that way. And we're living together
and there was like ten thousand clicks.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
It's definitely like a different situation because we had lived
together before. But we just our faith has been really
a big part of like our relationship and how we've
grown together as a couple. And you know, there were
so many things that we were trusting and like in
(33:44):
our faith and like our beliefs, and and there's just
one thing that we were like, oh, like you know,
we've been together, doesn't really matter, and we just felt
convicted to just like, Okay, we're gonna like fully trust
God in this and the part of our relationship and
we could do it. And it's been like it's in
(34:06):
every way it's tough, but we're we believe that we'll
just have like blessings in our marriage for it and
not like it's not to make anybody feel bad for
not I mean we lived together for years, Like it
was just like what we felt for our relationship and
just where we were and in our spirit was the
best for us. And so yeah, we did it and
(34:28):
it's been great.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Is there any part of you that's like, oh, and
now we have to live together again, and I'm not
looking forward to that component of you.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
No, Adam is a great partner to live with, Like
he's like on it, like I'm I've been like I'm
so much. But we see each other like every every day.
So it's not you know, it's it's more just making
sure the things that we say that we value in
a line like actually match the way that we live
(34:59):
out our lif our life, and we kind of went
to the extremes of that, but you know, mm hmm, well,
always trying to shake things around.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
No, I love it. I think it's great. I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I love the traditional component to it. I told Jared
that we would not live together until we were engaged,
and that is what we did. I love that, and
I wouldn't have done even that necessarily. I could have
waited until we were married. But just because he didn't
have a home in la he was living with Nick
(35:31):
by all, and then Nick was like, I'm moving to
another house, and I was like, I'm not making you
live in.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Venice, so come on over you. I got a ring
on my.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Finger now, yeah, totally, No, it makes so much sense.
So Yeah, it's been it's been great. But also especially
like when I am, it's been so busy. It does
suck at some point because you're just like just one
your person with you, even if it's just to like
(36:04):
for the little moments and things. So you know, we're
getting close. So it's it's been good and we feel like,
you know, we were called to do that for a reason,
and we're excited.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You are living in the house that you guys bought. Yeah, okay,
so he will get out of the other place soon.
Did you sell Did you get rid of the other rental?
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yes, we were just renting that place. He's in like
this amazing like short term rental almost like hotel that
he's insane yet, which has been nice because like he's
he's going to be kind of sad because it has
like every amenity. It's in like this perfect location. I'm
(36:48):
going to be sad. It has like a beautiful heated pool,
like sauna, cold plunge, pick a ball corner, look at
that little thing like it's amazing. In the room, like
he has like a that comes in like cleans's room
up every week. You know, so he's been loving that.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Oh wow, Okay, well, Hannah, the reason that you're here
really is to talk about your new book.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yes, you had your first novel come out, Mistakes We
Never Made.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
It came out last year, and then you kind of
teas to us that there would be a follow up
of sorts, not a direct sequel, right, and that is
coming out in a few weeks. This one's called The
Four Engagement Rings of Sybil Rain. Yes, so can you
tease to us what this.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Book is about? And you have to read the last book.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
You do not have to read the last book to
read this one first. It's like in the same universe.
So the characters, you know, have some overlap, but totally
safe to start with the Four Engagement Rings, the Civil
Ragin and then you know reading the Stakes we never
made or just read one. But this book, the fun
(38:04):
part of it, like the light, the part that makes
it like this fun beach read gives very much like
Forgetting Sarah Marshall Vibes in a year ago was a
runaway bride and is like needing a much needed vaka
and so she decides to use her ticket vouchers that
she has that would have been her honeymoon to to
(38:27):
finally go and have some time to relax, and unfortunately
she runs into not one but two of her ex
fiances on the beach and has to just oh, yeah,
we got foreign gamers girls. That's right, she's got more
than me. Yes, she has to like figure out how
(38:52):
to navigate that. But really, what the book is about
is dealing with your past and being able to kind
of like learn to love yourself first so that you
can actually perceive the love that you actually deserve. And
(39:15):
I would say, like this book ended up being a
lot more personal than I thought it was going to
be because it's definitely been a journey. A lot of
people ask like, oh, look, is this based on your life.
I'm like, oh, thank god, this has not been my life.
But a lot of the thoughts and feelings that Sybil's had,
especially when it comes to commitment and being with a
man that's you know, so great for her, but feeling
(39:37):
like she can't fully like her past defines her in
certain ways. Like I've really struggled with that, and especially
in this relationship that I'm in now, there were years
and seasons where gosh, just my mistakes and beliefs about
myself and beliefs about love. It really hindered me from
(39:59):
being able to you see what was in front of
me and fully receive it. And so Sybil definitely has
that part of me that when people ask, like, how
much of the book is you, I'm like, there's a
part of that that is definitely like things that I've
struggled with and to have overcome and it's been really
(40:19):
cool to like overcome them and get to like have
Sybil had that same happily ever after experience too. So
that's what the real book is about. But it has
all the fun, you know parts of the Beach Tree
that makes you just want to like read it in
one setting, preferably you know, with a nice you know,
(40:44):
cocktail in hand with some pool service. But uh, I'm
really excited for people to read it. I think they're
really gonna love it. And I feel like it was,
you know, a labor of love and things that after
the first book people like, we want to have we
need to know about Sybil, so they'll have a lot
of those questions answered. If you did read the first book,
(41:06):
and if you didn't, like you're going to have this
fresh new book and character to grow to love.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
So obviously you relate to the main character. Now I
have to ask what the four ex fiances? Did you
kind of model them after four x's in your life?
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Not really, I've been asked this once before and No,
I feel like one of the characters is definitely I
think some of the goodness of him comes from my
fiance Adam, like just that character. There are parts of
(41:45):
him that I definitely how he can like hold Sybil
in certain ways. It's definitely how I feel like Adam
can navigate life with me. And I will say that
there are are other characters that, yeah, I mean, I like,
they're not like fully based off one person, but there
(42:07):
could be people that people could maybe be like, oh,
it's kind of based off this guy who knew me
a little, But not not anything that I'm like this character,
I just like, may have changed their name and they
have all the same little quirks and personalities and would
do the same things. No, but definitely had some inspiration
from some people in my past. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
When Hannah Brown writes a book, people want to know, like,
it's a Taylor Swift song?
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Is this about Peter Tyler? Jed her current?
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
All right, So when does it come out and people
can buy it anywhere books are sold.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah, y'all pre order now, please, you can pre order
wherever books are sold. But it comes out June twenty fourth,
so I will be also going on a book tour
this time yet again right before the wedding, so you
guys can check that out. I'll have more information on
my Instagram of like where all the stops are. But
(43:16):
book comes out June twenty fourth, you can get wherever.
I'm so excited for you guys to read it and
then to be able to see everybody out on the
road again.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And finally, when you were writing this book, how did
you like How was it different than the first process
of writing a novel?
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Which one did you prefer more?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
The first one felt like easier in a weird way,
like it just I don't know, it just was a
little bit of an easier process. I definitely still had
pressure on myself, don't let me wrong. I don't know
how to not like put extreme amounts of pressure and
stress on myself. But the second one, I just really
(43:59):
was shocked and so so proud of how everybody loved
the first one that I really wanted to make sure
this one was, you know, even better. In some way.
And I think because I related to Sybil even more.
She's like the messier parts of me that are like
entertaining for people to watch, but when it comes to
like your own life like kind of like to have
to like navigate those types of thoughts and feelings. And
(44:23):
she's a little bit more nuanced of a character, and
I think people are going to love her, but she's
messy and she like makes the wrong decisions sometimes with relationships,
and you're like, come on, girl. So it was very
important for me to get her right to where it's like, gosh,
(44:45):
you understand why she does the things that she does,
like you have like compassion for her and you're rooting
for her. So it was a little bit more of
a challenging task than the first one was. But I
do think it with the hell of my co author Emily,
like where we really I think stretched as far as
(45:07):
the writing and even like just in different details. I
feel like the book is set in Hawaii, so even
just like really making setting more of like a character
in itself, and that it kind of just helps like
get people really in the world in a more lush way.
(45:28):
I just feel like there was just a lot more pressure,
but also like this want to even just be better
than the first book. And I feel like people who
have read it have really noticed that too, which has
been such a compliment and like we really all the
hard work and the moments that were stressful was all
worth it.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
And as I love to compare you to Taylor Swift,
do you feel that now as a New York Times
best Selling author, USA Today best Selling author, do you
feel like every book needs to top itself? Does it
get stressful if it if it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Yeah, So, knowing this season this was going to be in,
I had to have that like conversation on myself and
my team of like why am I doing this? And
in a past it was just I just want to
be able to say I've done the thing and I
really want to continue being an author, and I also
(46:25):
want to enjoy this season, and so I can have
to try to learn to not put so much pressure
on myself. It's like it has to be I want
to know that my work is actually better than the
other one. But as far as like does it have
to to always top like in other people's eyes or
from the world, I have to let that go. But
(46:47):
as far as what I know, the quality of my work, Like, yeah,
I do want it to always be better than the last.
Like that is important to me. But as far as like,
there's so much that goes into these like lists and
things that are not just is it's actually way more
complicated than people think, Like I had to let that
(47:07):
go and like just be proud of the work that
I'm doing and try to be in this season of
life where I am getting married at this season and
doing everything I can to get this book in people's
hands because I am really proud of it. And I
think if people love the first one, they're going to
love this one even more. And if you're intrigued, read
this book, because I'm like, I think it's even better
(47:28):
than the first one. So yeah, that's I'm trying to
find that balance of like truly just being proud of
myself for knowing that I'm getting better and that being enough.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
And you're going to be on Paradise soon after this
book launches, so that.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Will get your name out there again and it could
even numbers.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Why stop it, But you're right, what's important is that
you feel like it's a better piece of work, piece
of art, and we're.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Really happy for you.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
You're just killing it like everything, Hannah Brown rocks it.
I was so excited to see you going on Paradise.
You do make me want to watch it more.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
And I feel like that's the production. How am I
feeling about going just.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Like watching new like no not about me?
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Oh yeah, like no, yeah, yeah, like watching it with
a new production crew. Yeah, Like it's like melancholy. Yeah,
I mean it's so weird because I've always felt like
I'm rooting for the people behind the scenes because they
were the ones that like set me up with this
life that I have now, so I love them so much.
So I do feel like I'll be a little bit
(48:37):
detached for it, But I also really want the show
to do well because I want the whole franchise to
continue totally. And if it.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Doesn't do well, then, you know, that would be so
sad to have this. Yeah, and I don't think it'll
ever like go away forever, but if it does go
away for a little while, you know, still, so it
would it would be bizarre.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
I think people are going to be really excited and
it There's going to be a lot of newness and
just all the things that Bachelor and Paradise is but
just with like some fresh eyes, and so I don't know,
give it, give.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
It a show.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
Oh you know, I'm giving it a shot. I could
never have Paradise on and not watch it. Plus I
have the show, but I love Paradise. I hope it's
successful in every way, from being entertaining and fun and
lighthearted because that's the best part of it is how
communic it is and self aware. And then I hope
that we get some good couples out of it too,
some long lasting couples. Yes, And then I would love
(49:34):
for you to come back after the wedding to tell
us that it was the best day of your life,
and then to also tell us about how you have
two uteruses, which I think.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
You told me about in person. This isn't news. I've
known about her too.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
That's all pictures.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
No, But that's like a whole other conversation because I
love talking about women's health, and you had been diagnosed
with PCOS beforehand, and now that you guys are married
and probably gonna start trying to have kids, that'll be
a perfect podcast.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
We'll do that all together already. You are the best.
Thank you so much for spending so much time with us.
Speaker 4 (50:15):
My gosh, of course no, I'm always always love getting
to catch up and yeah, excited to talk soon again.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
All right, see yea bye, thank you. All right, guys,
that's been the wonderful Hannah Brown. We have so much
coming from her this summer, and we will talk to
you next time.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
We missed. Ben and I have been Ashley Seya.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
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