June 12, 2025 • 17 mins
Ben and Ashley are your source for the latest in Bachelor Nation headlines! We hear Ashley’s expert opinion on what the Bachelor in Paradise cast announcement REALLY means, and they share a shocking prediction for what’s to come.
Another Bachelor success story has walked down the aisle, and a controversial relationship between two reality stars has now officially ended… after keeping fans guessing for months!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with on our radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome Almost Famous.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We're here today breaking down every headline that we know
of in Bachelor Nation. We've done some deep diving this
week to find out what is exactly happening.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ashley's with us today.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Obviously the big news right now, Ashley, as we're starting
to see teasers, we got some cast members announced for
this upcoming season of Paradise.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's going to be the tenth season. Ashley. Your thoughts
after seeing the cast.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
It's kind of the thoughts that I have every year.
The guys still have yes every year?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh you always have this? Oh, yes you do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
It's the guys are going to have a great selection
of ladies to pick from, and the.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Girls guys that are on par with what you would
see if you open the door of a new bar.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't think anybody has ever done disagreed with you
on that. Okay, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Uh, why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean, let's let's talk about that for a second.
I mean, coming off of each show, we felt that
way about gen season, so I'm and I think most
fans did so. I am shocked to see so many
contestants from Gen season show up to Paradise. I felt
like they would be kind of for lack of a
better child, Yeah, exiled, Like, hey, yeah, you're you're not
(01:26):
going We're not going to be highlighting you any longer.
You're obviously not bringing in the viewership.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The person that won from your season obviously, like you know,
didn't stand out. But yet we see so many of
her contestants.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, it was weird. So all we have is the
first first sand So these are the people that are
going to be like in the beginning of episode one.
It may not even be like all of episode one.
So we have well we did a whole episode, but
we didn't. But Trista Fielden for us. Very sweet, Thank you, Trista.
Go back and listen to that episode. She went through
(02:07):
them all but quickly. Alex, who we all liked from
Grand season, Bailey also memorable from Grand season. Brian from
Gen season. Don't remember him. I'm just gonna do, like
off the top of my head, like do I remember them?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Do I not remember them? Do I have to think hard? Dale?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Of course, Dale is gonna be the most memorable of
everyone because he was the one who left with Claire.
He's only thirty six now. He was very young during
Claire season. Hickem hilarious, great facial expressions from Gen season.
Jeremy from gen Zeason, remember him too? He was fourth,
(02:43):
he was he made it to hometowns. Just from Joey season.
I do remember her. She has brown hair right now,
so you may not remember her at first glance. Jonathan
also quite memorable from jen season justin glaze. All of
Justina from Katie's season also had such a public relationship
with Susie. We we know, we can say we know
(03:07):
that Susie is coming, but she's definitely gonna be one
of those people that come on to the Sand a
little bit later for drama effect. Of course, because they
hold back a lot of people for drama effect, you
don't get all the A listers in the first Sand group.
Then we have Kat who got engaged to John Henry
last season of Paradise. We do love Kat for a
(03:29):
dramatic moment. Kyle from Katie season, don't remember him at all.
Lexi gorgeous girl from Joey's season. She was the one
who talked about her struggle to maybe not be able
to have kids?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Was it PCs?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I forget what she has, but she has a bad
and Jimmy Trio's as bad. I remember that Ricky from
Jen season. I do remember his face, but I don't
remember his storyline with him Sam. I remember he was
kind of a where we weren't sure if he was
a dick, but he sure had his dickish moment during
Gen season.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, but kind of still a question if he was
or not because it was really against Devin.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Oh he was against holy crap.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So we don't really know. Yeah, we don't really know.
Now we'll wait for Paradise.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, Spencer Gen season, Yes, I think he was like
fifth or something. Remember his face. I know that a
lot of girls asked for him to be there in Paradise.
Zoe from Grand season, remember her? She was second runner up,
which sounds like pageants speak, But you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So I guess there's really a few don't remember them,
but there are definitely a few randoms and there's a
few a lesteners. I would say that Jonathan Dale and
Justin are probably your A list. Maybe Kat be sorry
to qualify people by listeners, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean, I do know you mean, I I'm
surprised to see the casting not bring out people more
like justin Glade.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
There's a lot of them out there. I felt like
they could have.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, I loaded the beach up with some guys and
girls from the past that people were more connected to.
Especially I mean, I know you said that you don't
get a lot of people on first beach.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I think it was important.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I think it's very important for Paradise to start out
really hot right now with that first episode where people
are engaged, intrigued and watching people they.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Know, especially Ashley.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And here's my twist as we kind of go on
to the second part of this, I'm surprised they didn't
bring out people from the past Bachelor and Bachelorette because
it seems like Paradise, Jesse Palmer, Wells, Hannah Brown are
all really kind of teasing this.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Golden's being there.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And I know you asked Hannah if there was going
to be any flirtation between the Bachelor Bachelorettes and the Goldens.
It felt like that would be more likely if they
would have brought out people from the past who are
maybe closer to forty Now.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh, can you think of any more on the top
of your head? I have one. Wow, the time my
head came quick J. P. Rosenbaum. He would have been
he would have been big.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
It would have been an older ish generation where people
would be like excited to see him date Ashley post divorce,
first Bachelor divorce and the divorce ends up on Paradise
and in between the age of the Goldens and the
young'ins see.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And then there's the guy even Desire who left Desire
you know during her season Brooks.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, I love Brooks. I think Brooks my being in
a relationship in that case.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I'm not keeping track of all these people, but there
are some people you could think of that have maybe
been on Paradise in the last few years that they
could have brought back that would have been really fun
to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But they didn't. So Ashley.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
The next headline is kind of is still teasing this
idea that the Goldens and the Bachelor and Bachelorettes are
going to be mingling. When you asked Hannah a little
teaser into that episode you did with her about flirting
between the two parties.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
What did you say?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
She did her big Hannah Brown smile.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Where did you pick up on?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
To me? My interpretation was that there's flirting but no relationship.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay, so yeah, Do you think the show actually wanted relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Or is this just for conversation's sake?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I definitely think they wanted the conversation out there. I
think there was a reason that last week there were
headlines about Jesse wanting it to happen, and then there
was some reaction from past cast that was like, sir, no,
that would not be in good taste.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, the big news this week and a massive congratulations
to the two of them. They are sweet kind We've
been around them multiple times during almost famous events. They're very,
very genuine people. Zach Shallcross and Katie Bigger are now married.
(08:12):
This is a Texas wedding. It was not a super
like publicized event. There was not a lot of lead
up to this. It came as a shock to many,
but Ashley, they are now married and we cannot be happier.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
So happy love this And to everybody who said that
Zach was a lame bachelor choice, well look it was
meant to be.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
He found his wife through it.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And I think that they're gonna I think we're going
to see them together for a very long time. I
think yes. I think so too. I love yes forever.
We get married for forever, and we're really happy for them.
They actually had only nine people present at their wedding.
They did allude to us when they talked to us
a few months ago that it would be kind of
(08:57):
an elopement. They did a cute little like wedding chapel celebration.
They did it in front of the nine people at
like this gorgeous little chapel. You can see the whole
nine minute video via Bachelor Happy Hours or Bachelor Nation
on Instagram. Everything was exclusive to Bachelor, so they kind
of Bachelor definitely was like, Okay, we're gonna make this
(09:19):
tiny and private, but we're kinda kind of bring back
the we got married on air thing because every you
can see like everything as if this was a mini
televised event for them.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
It's very cute.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
They had this idea that they were going to do
a bigger wedding and they came across this venue that
they really liked, but they didn't end up signing the contract,
and instead they decided to do a photo shoot at
that venue before the after the intimate little chapel ceremony
that you'll see it is quite perfect, and it is
perfectly them. It's very tasteful and intimate, and they've never
(09:57):
been like big public people, and I think this was
just very much their style.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
It feels like their style. It feels so healthy. Their
relationship has been healthy since the beginning. I mean, we've
talked to so many contestants who are still friends with Katie.
Obviously they get together still on these girls' trips, and
they all talk about, you know, how funny it is
to be around Zach, but also how perfect Katie and
Zach are together. We would attest that this this actually
(10:24):
feels like it goes. I mean, we obviously talk about
them not winning the spotlight at least Zach definitely kind
of staying away from it and not really buying into
the batchel role, which is fine. That says a lot
about him as a person that he just didn't like
love the attention, and it almost feels like, oh, maybe
the recipe for making a lot of these relationships work
(10:46):
where you go away from the spotlight, you don't focus
on the attention, and you focus on your relationship, and
then you know, we've seen that with a few now
work out.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Katie and Zach are kind of definitely went for the
right reasons. People, they truly had no intention on like
doing anything with fame after the fact, they.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Didn't, And it's great and we got to celebrate that.
It's something very respectful and something very much appreciated because
I can't say that I went down that path myself,
but I see how their relationship became the priority choice
in their life and what that did for them as
a couple, and so congratulations to them. Into non marriage news,
(11:43):
Dancing with the Stars, Sasha Farber and Gentrans split after
nearly a year of dating.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
A year is a little exaggerated.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
We know that she broke up with even what's his name,
and le know what, honestly, I don't even care that
I just say what's his name because he doesn't need to. No.
That happened in October, So like if she and Sasha
became a thing in November during Dancing with the Stars,
it's been more about half a year.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
But thanks for the drama. Yeah, so they are going
to remain very good friends. They never actually confirmed confirm
their romance.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They just teased a lot of chemistry and a lot
of flirtation on their social media. It's probably the best
that they never came out officially, put a lot less
pressure on it. It was more fun and light hearted,
and he was coming out of a marriage and she
was coming out of a very public breakup.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
In two news, I was watching the Instagram stories today
of people sharing their support with Vanessa Grimaldi. You'll remember
her from Nick's season of The Bachelor. The headline is
this Bachelor love. Vanessa Grimaldi shares she experienced a second
miscarrier in a year. She's very emotional in her stories,
(13:05):
as you would expect, and very thankful for the support
she's been given.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, we're just so so sorry and so sad to Vanessa.
She has had her, as Ben said, her second miscarriage
this year, but the other one she was private about
for three months, and she said that right now, being
that she's like kind of doing a play by play
of her feelings in lifetime on Instagram, so that she's
(13:33):
had a whole different support system through all her following
and so many women who have gone through this situation before.
It's one in four pregnancies, not even one for women,
one for pregnancies and in miscarriage, and it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Just feels like a stat we should look into a little.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Bit, such a crazy stat. I wonder if it's always
been like that.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't think so so well.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Now people are so public about it just feels like
it's more often, you know, because it used to be
such a quiet, silent thing, and you were supposed to
expect to just deal with your grief. And I think
that a lot of women are so grateful that right
now it's being talked about. So she has Winston, who
her two year old, and she's just like, I find
(14:23):
so much comfort in him.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I'm so grateful for him.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Like I it makes me even more grateful for him. Basically,
when going through this loss, said that her heart aches
for the baby that she'll never get to meet, thinking
about him as a newborn all the first like the
sleepy snuggles, the little milestones, and she was imagining going
through those moments again.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
And this is the second.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Time she found out about a miscarriage through an ultrasound.
She said that late adds an extra layer of grief
when that's heavier and more complicated, harder to put into wards.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Wow, we're thinking about Vanessa, and I think you said
it best. It is.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
It feels very healthy that now somebody can speak about
this publicly and feel less alone as they work through it.
Next headline is Carlie Waddell reveals she's starting a new
chapter with her family.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So Carly moved into the house that she's currently in
or just moving out of when she was going through
the divorce with Evan. It's already like four years and
for five yeah, for four and a half years, and
now she's moving in with her fiance.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
They're so cute together. His name is Todd.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You guys got to follow her on Instagram to see this.
They are moving to Lebanon, Tennessee. Ben, how far out
is that from Nashville.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I have no idea. I don't think very far.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I've never heard of Lebanon.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
The geography enough, Yeah, I don't know the geography.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Okay, So if they are all going to live together,
she says she gets to live their three best friends
now instead of two, and then there's could be two
dogs and the cat. She's saying goodbye to the house
that made her a super moom. We know where she's
so low parented or Charlie learned to walk, and we
spent lots of Christmases and Easters and Halloween where we
(16:19):
played dress up, fought tornadoes and loved really hard. We're
really happy for Carly, Like I love seeing her with
Todd on Instagram because like you can just the happiness
is just like just it's so bright, so shining, and
it's been like that for quite some time now. It's
not like when Carly has her like month of happiness
in Bachelor Paradise.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, it's great. It's really exciting to see. Congratulations to
her on this next new chapter. Well, that's been all
the headlines we have for you today. We're gonna also
continue to dive in to any Bachelor in Paradise news
coming your way. We will not be spoiling you, but
we will be revealing what has been then revealed publicly
(17:02):
that maybe you just missed in your headlines. But until
next time, I've been Ben.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I've been Ashley. Bye, guys, love you.
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome Almost Famous.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
We're here today breaking down every headline that we know
of in Bachelor Nation. We've done some deep diving this
week to find out what is exactly happening.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Ashley's with us today.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Obviously the big news right now, Ashley, as we're starting
to see teasers, we got some cast members announced for
this upcoming season of Paradise.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's going to be the tenth season. Ashley. Your thoughts
after seeing the cast.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
It's kind of the thoughts that I have every year.
The guys still have yes every year?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh you always have this? Oh, yes you do. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
It's the guys are going to have a great selection
of ladies to pick from, and the.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Girls guys that are on par with what you would
see if you open the door of a new bar.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't think anybody has ever done disagreed with you
on that. Okay, I really don't.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Uh, why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I mean, let's let's talk about that for a second.
I mean, coming off of each show, we felt that
way about gen season, so I'm and I think most
fans did so. I am shocked to see so many
contestants from Gen season show up to Paradise. I felt
like they would be kind of for lack of a
better child, Yeah, exiled, Like, hey, yeah, you're you're not
(01:26):
going We're not going to be highlighting you any longer.
You're obviously not bringing in the viewership.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The person that won from your season obviously, like you know,
didn't stand out. But yet we see so many of
her contestants.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Yeah, it was weird. So all we have is the
first first sand So these are the people that are
going to be like in the beginning of episode one.
It may not even be like all of episode one.
So we have well we did a whole episode, but
we didn't. But Trista Fielden for us. Very sweet, Thank you, Trista.
Go back and listen to that episode. She went through
(02:07):
them all but quickly. Alex, who we all liked from
Grand season, Bailey also memorable from Grand season. Brian from
Gen season. Don't remember him. I'm just gonna do, like
off the top of my head, like do I remember them?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Do I not remember them? Do I have to think hard? Dale?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Of course, Dale is gonna be the most memorable of
everyone because he was the one who left with Claire.
He's only thirty six now. He was very young during
Claire season. Hickem hilarious, great facial expressions from Gen season.
Jeremy from gen Zeason, remember him too? He was fourth,
(02:43):
he was he made it to hometowns. Just from Joey season.
I do remember her. She has brown hair right now,
so you may not remember her at first glance. Jonathan
also quite memorable from jen season justin glaze. All of
Justina from Katie's season also had such a public relationship
with Susie. We we know, we can say we know
(03:07):
that Susie is coming, but she's definitely gonna be one
of those people that come on to the Sand a
little bit later for drama effect. Of course, because they
hold back a lot of people for drama effect, you
don't get all the A listers in the first Sand group.
Then we have Kat who got engaged to John Henry
last season of Paradise. We do love Kat for a
(03:29):
dramatic moment. Kyle from Katie season, don't remember him at all.
Lexi gorgeous girl from Joey's season. She was the one
who talked about her struggle to maybe not be able
to have kids?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Was it PCs?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I forget what she has, but she has a bad
and Jimmy Trio's as bad. I remember that Ricky from
Jen season. I do remember his face, but I don't
remember his storyline with him Sam. I remember he was
kind of a where we weren't sure if he was
a dick, but he sure had his dickish moment during
Gen season.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, but kind of still a question if he was
or not because it was really against Devin.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Oh he was against holy crap.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
So we don't really know. Yeah, we don't really know.
Now we'll wait for Paradise.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, Spencer Gen season, Yes, I think he was like
fifth or something. Remember his face. I know that a
lot of girls asked for him to be there in Paradise.
Zoe from Grand season, remember her? She was second runner up,
which sounds like pageants speak, But you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
And that's it.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
So I guess there's really a few don't remember them,
but there are definitely a few randoms and there's a
few a lesteners. I would say that Jonathan Dale and
Justin are probably your A list. Maybe Kat be sorry
to qualify people by listeners, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean, I do know you mean, I I'm
surprised to see the casting not bring out people more
like justin Glade.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
There's a lot of them out there. I felt like
they could have.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, I loaded the beach up with some guys and
girls from the past that people were more connected to.
Especially I mean, I know you said that you don't
get a lot of people on first beach.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I think it was important.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I think it's very important for Paradise to start out
really hot right now with that first episode where people
are engaged, intrigued and watching people they.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Know, especially Ashley.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
And here's my twist as we kind of go on
to the second part of this, I'm surprised they didn't
bring out people from the past Bachelor and Bachelorette because
it seems like Paradise, Jesse Palmer, Wells, Hannah Brown are
all really kind of teasing this.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Golden's being there.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
And I know you asked Hannah if there was going
to be any flirtation between the Bachelor Bachelorettes and the Goldens.
It felt like that would be more likely if they
would have brought out people from the past who are
maybe closer to forty Now.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh, can you think of any more on the top
of your head? I have one. Wow, the time my
head came quick J. P. Rosenbaum. He would have been
he would have been big.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
It would have been an older ish generation where people
would be like excited to see him date Ashley post divorce,
first Bachelor divorce and the divorce ends up on Paradise
and in between the age of the Goldens and the
young'ins see.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
And then there's the guy even Desire who left Desire
you know during her season Brooks.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, I love Brooks. I think Brooks my being in
a relationship in that case.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I'm not keeping track of all these people, but there
are some people you could think of that have maybe
been on Paradise in the last few years that they
could have brought back that would have been really fun
to watch.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
But they didn't. So Ashley.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
The next headline is kind of is still teasing this
idea that the Goldens and the Bachelor and Bachelorettes are
going to be mingling. When you asked Hannah a little
teaser into that episode you did with her about flirting
between the two parties.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
What did you say?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
She did her big Hannah Brown smile.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Where did you pick up on?
Speaker 5 (07:24):
To me? My interpretation was that there's flirting but no relationship.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Okay, so yeah, Do you think the show actually wanted relationship.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Or is this just for conversation's sake?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I definitely think they wanted the conversation out there. I
think there was a reason that last week there were
headlines about Jesse wanting it to happen, and then there
was some reaction from past cast that was like, sir, no,
that would not be in good taste.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, the big news this week and a massive congratulations
to the two of them. They are sweet kind We've
been around them multiple times during almost famous events. They're very,
very genuine people. Zach Shallcross and Katie Bigger are now married.
(08:12):
This is a Texas wedding. It was not a super
like publicized event. There was not a lot of lead
up to this. It came as a shock to many,
but Ashley, they are now married and we cannot be happier.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
So happy love this And to everybody who said that
Zach was a lame bachelor choice, well look it was
meant to be.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
He found his wife through it.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And I think that they're gonna I think we're going
to see them together for a very long time. I
think yes. I think so too. I love yes forever.
We get married for forever, and we're really happy for them.
They actually had only nine people present at their wedding.
They did allude to us when they talked to us
a few months ago that it would be kind of
(08:57):
an elopement. They did a cute little like wedding chapel celebration.
They did it in front of the nine people at
like this gorgeous little chapel. You can see the whole
nine minute video via Bachelor Happy Hours or Bachelor Nation
on Instagram. Everything was exclusive to Bachelor, so they kind
of Bachelor definitely was like, Okay, we're gonna make this
(09:19):
tiny and private, but we're kinda kind of bring back
the we got married on air thing because every you
can see like everything as if this was a mini
televised event for them.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
It's very cute.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
They had this idea that they were going to do
a bigger wedding and they came across this venue that
they really liked, but they didn't end up signing the contract,
and instead they decided to do a photo shoot at
that venue before the after the intimate little chapel ceremony
that you'll see it is quite perfect, and it is
perfectly them. It's very tasteful and intimate, and they've never
(09:57):
been like big public people, and I think this was
just very much their style.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
It feels like their style. It feels so healthy. Their
relationship has been healthy since the beginning. I mean, we've
talked to so many contestants who are still friends with Katie.
Obviously they get together still on these girls' trips, and
they all talk about, you know, how funny it is
to be around Zach, but also how perfect Katie and
Zach are together. We would attest that this this actually
(10:24):
feels like it goes. I mean, we obviously talk about
them not winning the spotlight at least Zach definitely kind
of staying away from it and not really buying into
the batchel role, which is fine. That says a lot
about him as a person that he just didn't like
love the attention, and it almost feels like, oh, maybe
the recipe for making a lot of these relationships work
(10:46):
where you go away from the spotlight, you don't focus
on the attention, and you focus on your relationship, and
then you know, we've seen that with a few now
work out.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Katie and Zach are kind of definitely went for the
right reasons. People, they truly had no intention on like
doing anything with fame after the fact, they.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Didn't, And it's great and we got to celebrate that.
It's something very respectful and something very much appreciated because
I can't say that I went down that path myself,
but I see how their relationship became the priority choice
in their life and what that did for them as
a couple, and so congratulations to them. Into non marriage news,
(11:43):
Dancing with the Stars, Sasha Farber and Gentrans split after
nearly a year of dating.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
A year is a little exaggerated.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
We know that she broke up with even what's his name,
and le know what, honestly, I don't even care that
I just say what's his name because he doesn't need to. No.
That happened in October, So like if she and Sasha
became a thing in November during Dancing with the Stars,
it's been more about half a year.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
But thanks for the drama. Yeah, so they are going
to remain very good friends. They never actually confirmed confirm
their romance.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They just teased a lot of chemistry and a lot
of flirtation on their social media. It's probably the best
that they never came out officially, put a lot less
pressure on it. It was more fun and light hearted,
and he was coming out of a marriage and she
was coming out of a very public breakup.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
In two news, I was watching the Instagram stories today
of people sharing their support with Vanessa Grimaldi. You'll remember
her from Nick's season of The Bachelor. The headline is
this Bachelor love. Vanessa Grimaldi shares she experienced a second
miscarrier in a year. She's very emotional in her stories,
(13:05):
as you would expect, and very thankful for the support
she's been given.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, we're just so so sorry and so sad to Vanessa.
She has had her, as Ben said, her second miscarriage
this year, but the other one she was private about
for three months, and she said that right now, being
that she's like kind of doing a play by play
of her feelings in lifetime on Instagram, so that she's
(13:33):
had a whole different support system through all her following
and so many women who have gone through this situation before.
It's one in four pregnancies, not even one for women,
one for pregnancies and in miscarriage, and it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Just feels like a stat we should look into a little.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Bit, such a crazy stat. I wonder if it's always
been like that.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I don't think so so well.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Now people are so public about it just feels like
it's more often, you know, because it used to be
such a quiet, silent thing, and you were supposed to
expect to just deal with your grief. And I think
that a lot of women are so grateful that right
now it's being talked about. So she has Winston, who
her two year old, and she's just like, I find
(14:23):
so much comfort in him.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I'm so grateful for him.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Like I it makes me even more grateful for him. Basically,
when going through this loss, said that her heart aches
for the baby that she'll never get to meet, thinking
about him as a newborn all the first like the
sleepy snuggles, the little milestones, and she was imagining going
through those moments again.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
And this is the second.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Time she found out about a miscarriage through an ultrasound.
She said that late adds an extra layer of grief
when that's heavier and more complicated, harder to put into wards.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Wow, we're thinking about Vanessa, and I think you said
it best. It is.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
It feels very healthy that now somebody can speak about
this publicly and feel less alone as they work through it.
Next headline is Carlie Waddell reveals she's starting a new
chapter with her family.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So Carly moved into the house that she's currently in
or just moving out of when she was going through
the divorce with Evan. It's already like four years and
for five yeah, for four and a half years, and
now she's moving in with her fiance.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
They're so cute together. His name is Todd.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You guys got to follow her on Instagram to see this.
They are moving to Lebanon, Tennessee. Ben, how far out
is that from Nashville.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I have no idea. I don't think very far.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I've never heard of Lebanon.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
The geography enough, Yeah, I don't know the geography.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Okay, So if they are all going to live together,
she says she gets to live their three best friends
now instead of two, and then there's could be two
dogs and the cat. She's saying goodbye to the house
that made her a super moom. We know where she's
so low parented or Charlie learned to walk, and we
spent lots of Christmases and Easters and Halloween where we
(16:19):
played dress up, fought tornadoes and loved really hard. We're
really happy for Carly, Like I love seeing her with
Todd on Instagram because like you can just the happiness
is just like just it's so bright, so shining, and
it's been like that for quite some time now. It's
not like when Carly has her like month of happiness
in Bachelor Paradise.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, it's great. It's really exciting to see. Congratulations to
her on this next new chapter. Well, that's been all
the headlines we have for you today. We're gonna also
continue to dive in to any Bachelor in Paradise news
coming your way. We will not be spoiling you, but
we will be revealing what has been then revealed publicly
(17:02):
that maybe you just missed in your headlines. But until
next time, I've been Ben.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
I've been Ashley. Bye, guys, love you.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
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