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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with i R Radio. It is the Ben and Ashley
I Almost Famous podcast. But Ben isn't here again. However,
I have so many guests to fill in his spot
this today, even though is he really somebody you can replace?

(00:21):
I'm not saying we're replacing him. I'm saying we have
some people filling in. And those people include Brooks like
Gavin Degrock, Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tartek, Nick Vill, Tanya
rad beck At, Tilly Yardley Smith, Jean Claude, Van dem
Brooke Burke, Megan King, Edmunds, Dean Anglert, and my husband.

(00:46):
And our first guests are sitting right next to me,
and they are Caitlyn and Jason. Does it still feel
weird to say husband? You said husband? And I got
like all tingle, I say husband, any chance I get
I call him husband? Yeah, I would too. I like that.
You need say my husband, Jared, You said my husband

(01:07):
was such a power. Yeah we all know, Yeah, my husband.
It does have a certain strength about it, does it does.
Fiance's like fancy and then husband's like you guys, you
mean it. You guys are in fiance is flirty, very flirty. Yeah,
and boyfriend just sounds super like I'm in high school.
There needs to be a term that's like not boyfriend

(01:29):
and not fiance, like not man friend, because that's really
I won't like the word fiance. I'm like, it's too cliche.
I wouldn't use it. I love it, you don't like
you know what. What I notice about when I used
to have to refer to Jared as fiance is it's
like so much less commanding than my husband. Like if

(01:50):
I was like, oh, thank you, I have to talk
to my fiance about it, like to make a decision.
It's like, oh, really, it's your fiance, but like I've
talked to my husband, of course you have to talk
to your perfect sense. Yeah, it's more of a legit word.
Fiance is very flirting. I think about your your wedding
often too. By the way, it was just such a
beautiful wedding. It was like you know, when you scroll

(02:13):
through photos in your phone, like looking for something to
post something. I always passed it. It It was just stunning,
really was. Thank you. And those photo booth photos that
like everybody is stupidly incredible. They're so insane Um, okay,
so we got to talk about the Bachelor with you guys. Um,
let's talk about the pregnancy theory first. So you guys

(02:37):
know that this is the new theory out in the
on the Wait Cyber's Fear, there's a pregnancy theory. Yeah.
So now, ever since we got an extra clip, you know,
in the super tease, we got an extra clip after
Chris Harrison says we have big news. We just learned
it right now. And then there's a new scene that
they added where he's like lying on the bed and

(02:58):
I don't know if I'm making this up. I feel
like he had like ice on his head or yes,
I remember, yeah, and he looks super distraught. Now people
are saying that because they keep teasing sex before fantasy.
Sweet Caitlin, you know about that. I've liked, am I
the only one? Or am I the only one that
was exploited for me? Definitely the only one exploited for it? Um,

(03:20):
people are saying that possibly they're bringing that up so
much because a girl gets pregnant and then he finds
out there. I mean it's really a bit of a
stretch because you know, like you need how logistics guy, right,
like think about that weekend? How many saying no, but

(03:42):
you need Like don't you need just two weeks to
really know? Like if you miss your period and you
were opulating two weeks earlier, you just need two weeks.
But then I'm thinking, are you gonna have to call
him like Mari mariy whatever his name is to you know,
like he obviously would be the father, but who is
the mother? Because if you're having multiple women, you mean

(04:04):
who is the mother the one that I'm sorry, sorry
you wait now my whole my whole theory is screwed.
I'm just thinking, like, wow, I really did not think
this one through. You're right, I'm gonna make you feel
better right now. One time I had to write a
Spanish essay my sophomore ye of high school, and I

(04:25):
spent thirty minutes trying to find Spanish letters. Oh yeah, okay,
that does make me feel a lot better. So you
just didn't think that went through. But what I'm getting
at is that's going to be a dramatic thing. But
I don't know. I feel like maybe they're gonna it's
gonna be like, oh she thought she was, but like
there's no way, Yeah, there's no way, I don't think so,
I mean, I guess it's a possibility. It is a possibility,

(04:46):
of course, it's a possibility. Crazy people that I don't
think there's there's absolutely no legitimacy. They're like, Hannah Brown
comes back and says that she's Pregnant's like, no, because
she wasn't you have to have sex? So that would
be crazy. But I just thought my theory was based
on your theory when I read what you said, thinking

(05:06):
that Hannah wins Dancing with the Stars says she's thinking
about him and that she wants to be with him.
Still I think, I mean, I'm still wanting to believe that.
Can I just ask you what you think about that?
What do you think about Hannah coming back and not
joining the season and then um then possibly like what
do you think of the whole situation? What do I
how do I feel like it's appropriate and she were

(05:26):
to actually come back and be like anything, like what
is it? Just your thoughts on that whole Hannah and
Peter situation. I'm okay with her coming back. I'm okay
with what she already did, which was come back and
like express her emotion. But then if she were to
like tell him at the end of all this, hey,
just letting you know I'm still thinking about you. Then
that might be rude. Yeah, okay, yeah, I think it's done.

(05:49):
I think you had you know, she had to come back.
She gave the wings back that was cute. Then that
she led the date that was very production based, and
then I think when she was in the back we
can all relate to this when you're back in the
world almost like the PTSD, the emotions manifest, and I
think that was very raw and authentic. But I think
it's done, Like I think the whole hand and be
that's my theory. We won't see her again on this

(06:10):
season and her in Peter's relationship is over and they're
gonna like root for each other's happiness. Okay, so that
is probably what happened. What annoys me if that is
the case, is like their last scene was so inclusive,
like concert there there's no there was It was inconclusive.
It was left open. Yes, that was ambiguous for I

(06:32):
didn't answer any questions that were brought up the episode beforehand,
which makes me think there's something left to be said.
At the end of the season. I think I think
her intention was like listen, I'm gonna check the boxes,
give the wings back, lead the date, I'm done, And
then I think it all just kind of hit there.
And that's why there wasn't an answer, because I don't
think she expected to react like that, and she definitely
wasn't going to be like, well, yes, I'll join the house,
so she was like, I'm not even going to answer

(06:53):
that question. Yeah, I guess I. I just wonder why
there wasn't even I t M like there weren't even
interviews after that scene, Like he was like, I would
have canceled this portion of the date now and I'll
see you guys later. And I thought that we'd see
him in an interview for hours, just sobbing and like
trying to talk out his feelings, and the same literally

(07:15):
just went into the date night like nothing happened. Bizarre,
super bizarre, super I'm glad you guys think that's where
does I do? It? Was super weird. Um Peter is
saying that reality Steve says that he can't be he
can't have an accurate prediction this year for a fact,
this is what does reality Steve say? Why no? But

(07:35):
Reality Steve, No, that's not. I'm saying Peter is saying
there's no way that Reality Steve can spoil this season. So, like,
does that mean that Peter doesn't even know how his
own season ends, Like he's still making a decision. It
must that I guarantee that, Well, there's no other explanation.
Even if he picks nobody, Reality Steve would still know that.

(07:56):
So right, So is that a spoiler in itself, Like
he doesn't pick anyone, or he's still trying to pick someone.
He's still trying to pick someone, I think, because otherwise
that's that's the only way you couldn't spoil it. Yeah,
the only way, especially today, like you can trace who
follows who, all the crazy stuff people do to be
able to like back into it and for it to
be actually unspoilable, then then he had to have made

(08:17):
no decisions. Something must happen between the finale and yeah,
like something his decision must be made on after the
right now. But then Harrison, like in those teasers, Harrison
comes back and tells him something extremely dramatic that he's
like shocked at the finale, right, Like you could tell
he's got his Like I think it's his full tucks on.

(08:38):
So it's got to be the first we are you
here for the first part of the conversation doesn't know
what we were talking about when he had laid there, Yeah,
like that somebody's pregnant, because you know, I'm saying, right,
there is when in my opinion, that's when like something
happens where no one's picked. Like, so that's why it's
unspoilable because there was going to pick someone before Harrison

(08:58):
said that. Sure, Like so maybe someone he's not over Hannah.
I don't know, Maybe he someone doesn't. Maybe he picked
someone and they don't pick him back. No, that he'd
still know that though, Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, he
I think the last season he wasn't accurate on was yours. Well,
then he went back and said something like he caught

(09:20):
it in the middle of the season or something, but
his initial spoiler wasn't true. No, he didn't catch it
until I spoiled everything. Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right,
that's right. Oh my gosh, of all seasons for him
to be wrong on and then I go and spoil it.

(09:42):
My goodness, I like being unspoiled by the way I have.
That's my my next question for you guys is do
you get spoiled every season because some fan will write
under your photo and your capture your comments and be
like it's so and so, and it's like, why would
you tell me? I'm trying to watch it, like just
slid into my d m s and she goes, Caitlin,

(10:03):
did you see this? And it's him on a hometown
and I was like, no, I didn't, and I'm trying
to avoid spoilers, and she goes, yeah, me too, but
somebody showed me and I'm like, thanks, yeah, no, it's
spoiled now. I mean spoiler who goes to hometowns? But
I hate spoilers. I hate them. I love the like
I don't know the surprise at the end. I love

(10:24):
being all my toes the whole time. I'm I just
I don't like spoilers. But it always happens because people
comment under it, but I try to not look like
even if I know it's Bachelor related, I'll try and
not read the comments or even right now, watching Gray's Anatomy,
everybody knows what always happens, but when I tweet it,
I don't read the responses because I don't want spoilers
on Season A new and right now I've Jason. I

(10:46):
heard that there's like some issues in the relationship, because yeah,
it is like anytime caitlyn Is is on the couch,
it's gray, anytime she's going to bed, it's gray, and
then it's grace. He does he does one thing, and
I'm like, McDreamy would do that for Meredith. Yeah, I'm like, hey,

(11:10):
do you love me as much as McDreamy loves Meredith.
I think he does. You'll end up learning to love
other relationships too, because between five and ten there's a
lot of other really great, relatable relationships, and I doesn't
feel so sad for you just because you're going to
go and you're going on this great binge like I
did two years ago to three years ago, where I

(11:33):
did thirteen seasons and like ten months. But then when
I got up to the live episodes, I was like, no, yeah,
I know, I keep bracing myself from it to not
be as good seasons are there sixteen sixteen, So I
I dropped off the beginning of fifteen. I just couldn't
do it really Okay, Well, I still have a little
ways to go, at least two months worth of binging

(11:57):
I got, I got two more questions. I don't care
if they're telling me to wrap up a little bad.
We just did our first live podcast and you're like
the queen of live podcasting. Do you have any good
advice if we continue to do more dates? Um, you
did a live one in l A, San Francisco. How
did it go? Was it fun? It was good? Yeah? Yeah,

(12:19):
it was really fun. I mean the audience was gets
you a hype? Yeah, they do. I think. I think
my only advice is just like I don't treat it
like a typical podcast like interview style. You kind of
have to just feed off the audience and the audience
wants crazy, behind the scenes funny like you. You can't
do it like a typical interview style. So I would

(12:40):
just say incorporate the audience and make them feel like
they're part of the experience. I really like that advice.
And my finale question is which dog prefers? Who is
Jason and Caitlin? Who's the best buds? So Ramen definitely
prefers Caitlin, Peno or is myself? That's for sure. I

(13:02):
would agree with that. Pino, Yeah, I would. I would
say that you wouldn't admit that though until we got Pino, no,
I would admit that. You never let You're like, no,
he loves us both the same. And he follows up
me around two and I'm like, okay, whatever, correct I
knew for I tell everyone from the minute we had Ramen,
Ramen was like, Ramen loves Caitlin, but loves never always

(13:24):
said he loves females in general, Like, so Caitlin wasn't around.
I brought him back home immediately he attached to my mom.
And then there was another instance we brought him around
immediately attached, oh to Sydney. Remember we left, we left
the dog in Canada. So now you're trying to take
it away from me that he loves me more. Oh no, no, no, no,
he absolutely loves you more. But yeah, but I was
just saying that was one of the things. Well, Romen

(13:45):
might be my favorite child too, But I love Pino
so much. But I'll secretly like whisper to Ramen and
be like, you're still the king of the house. I
love you so much. Both from the same place. Yeah,
Bunny's buddies, Ye, buddies both from Softocre, They're both from
same shelter House like everything. I just sent it their
DNA tests. Yeah, and I'm like praying to God. The Brothers,

(14:11):
you know, has more of a full face. Ramin is
very like delicate and like pinots, just a big potato.
I love them. All right, Thank you, guys, Thank you,
see you later, good luck at the podcast awards. We
should also probably talk about that. We are here right
now in of the podcast awards, the I Heart Radio

(14:35):
Podcast Awards, Caitlin and I are up against each other
a little friendly competition. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not feeling
competitive with you though. I'll just as happy if you
win as if I win. Me too. And let's be real,
sory Heart Awards, you're gonna win. I don't think so.
I think it's like the opposite. I think they're like, oh,
we can't be too obvious, so we have to not
choose anything. Who who else is in our category? Nick

(14:55):
is in our category? Oh oh as long as I
beat him. Okay, now that's a real friendly all right,
thanks guys, thank you. We are back at these special

(15:16):
I Heart Podcast Awards podcast with a couple of guys
who have a podcast called how Men Think on the
I Heart Radio podcast platform. We have Gavin DeGraw and
Brooks like here at Little Studio tonight, Gavin, you are
going to be performing and Brooks are going to be

(15:38):
introducing him. That's correct. That the big surprise that was
I'm going to be featured. I'm going to do like
a like you know how sometimes like a notable artist
comes in to feature on another notable artist. So that
was in line. That's what we have in line for sounds.
Did I played some rock band like a week ago,
so I'm dialed in here. That's awesome, But like, are

(16:01):
you really going to like singse? I feel like you
could sing though you have a good tone to your Totally,
I totally don't. It's amazing, honest, have you seen me
play hockey? So here's the thing. Actually, I respect and
love and admire the art of singing. If there was
one skill in the world that if I could magically
snap my fingers and acquirey would be the ability to

(16:22):
like really sing. I'm the worst singer in the world,
but I love music and I can't wait to see
my buddy perform. That's very kind of you. I can't wait.
I'm super excited to see um he he actually has
a great speaking voice, and we should leave it there.
I appreciate the support, but damn it. And he has

(16:43):
the gift of gab that's very important him on the podcast. Yet,
by the way, he's amazing, He's so good. He's an
absolute natural. You guys have two other co hosts, Dmitri
and Rick over there and say hey, guys, Hey, So
the following questions, I'm going to ask to all four
of them, what are the top two things that you

(17:04):
guys think that women don't understand about men? Because you
guys get emails all the time like what are the
two things that women are always asking that women don't
understand about men? Like, you know what I was trying
to figure out, you know what, I think. I think
that they think that we're not sensitive sometimes, and I
think that we're much more sensitive than we let on. Okay,

(17:26):
that's that's a very good point. That's true. You know
sometimes if I say something a little sensitive, someone like oh,
you're just being but hurt, and it's like, no, I'm not.
I can have a feeling and I can be upset
about something I'm not right now, So we're clear, doesn't
sound like we understand that I think that down the knife.
I really think that's truthful. I think, and that's part
of our mission with our podcast is emotions are real

(17:48):
and men have them. And I was talking about somebody
earlier about this that men's emotions are just as strong
as women's, we just maybe don't show them as much.
I think the other thing um that maybe women might
mistake about men is um and maybe they do, maybe
they don't. I don't know. But sometimes a man can
be looked at like he's figured things out, he's supposed
to know, Like, we don't know, we don't know the answer.

(18:09):
We don't know how to handle this situation. We're trying
our best. But like a lot of times, we might
be looked at for some sort of guidance or leadership
or or anything to handle something or to be a
safe place for something, and we're flying by the seat
of our pasts that we don't know. We you know,
I've been through some of that stuff recently in my life.
We lost our dogs, Like I don't know how to do.
I don't know how to handle that. Like, but I'm

(18:31):
trying to be there for my wife. I'm trying to
I'm trying to go I'm going through it too, Like, um,
there's a lot of times in our lives whereas men
we really don't know, but we just we try try
as hard as we can. So can I ask you
a way through that question? Good enough for you? Quite possible?
Here's a question, what do you would you think that?
Or what do you think? Um? When I don't women

(18:54):
don't get about men? Yeah? Or what is it something
that you don't get about men? Um? You know you're
recently married, so that's a whole new journey. I know.
I would say that, like, probably women get the rep
for being like the moodier gender or sex, and I
feel like guys can have just as many different moods. Yeah,

(19:16):
is that? I guess that kind of goes with the
sensitivity thing. What do you think? Why young at me? Um? Okay,
I agree, why not? You'll hear it on the podcast time.

(19:36):
I would tend to agree with you. I think I'm
pretty even keeled somewhat, But that doesn't mean I don't
have emotions. But I think man in general, maybe maybe
I'm generalizing and painting it with a broad stroke, but um,
maybe are a little more even keel in general. What's
been your favorite podcast topic to discuss in like the

(19:57):
what nine months you've been doing it? Guys, what do
you think? I mean? Well, we always have a real
good time answering questions from people because that's real, that's
our honest opinion. Um, we've talked about sex a lot,
which you know we're not good at to be able

(20:22):
to be honest, like to be honest. Actually we we
started the podcast to try and create a safe space
for men to talk about things that they never talked about.
And part of my mission with this was in a
locker room, dudes don't talk about anything other than the
game we're playing too, And I saw guys really struggle
in their life, even though they could perform in their career,
in their life, they struggled and it's because we we

(20:44):
just didn't talk about stuff. So we will, as guys
want to be a place and have a conversation where
we lay our weapons down, talk about things that actually
are going on and truthful in our lives, even though
it's maybe hidden by a rough exterior or something. There's
actually like emotions and linings and insecurities and stuff going
on in our life. And UM, topic wise, I don't

(21:05):
know exactly which one is my favorite, but I love
the mission behind it. Yeah, I love the mission behind
it too. I mean, everybody loves the movie What What
Men Want and What Women Want? And I feel like
you guys are just trying to kind of like crack
the code in between the two sexes, right, I don't know,
we're just kind of vent about it. You know, we're
all in different phases of our lives too, and I

(21:27):
think that it helps us kind of bounce things off
each other. And and um, I asked these guys for
you know, their opinions on things. And sometimes I hear
them talking about marriage and their relationships. And I'm not married,
so it's interesting hearing their perspective on things. And sometimes
these guys are kind of steering me toward Hey man,
you know, you gotta with the right person you thinks

(21:48):
you're gonna you know, your your mind's gonna change on
certain things. So these guys are all there in for
the long haul with somebody. I'm not. I'm not there
in my life yet. Um, but vice versa. Sometimes I
think about becoming a rock star. I asked, sometimes you
guys like, hey man, you got a room on the bus.
Backup basis Gavin, You've never really had a relationship that's

(22:12):
made headlines or one that's been very public. Are you
very private about it or have you not just had
many relationships. I'm pretty private. I think I'm maybe too private, um,
but it's just the nature of it. And I think
because I've been into music, uh world and seen so
many public relationships fail or get too much attention, it's

(22:35):
always been a little disturbing to me. Um. And I've
always been also very fearful of of like celebrity relationships
and just the headlines sort of, um, just the the
idea of of people asking you about things that have
like on the red carpet, just freaking you out, like,
hey man, we heard that such and such is going
on with you guys, and that that's that's always been

(22:57):
a phobia of mine, you know, as an as an artist,
is that people would maybe pay a little too much
attention to certain things that are more private than than
than public, Like you don't want to Taylor Swift it
where everybody knows what the songs about, who the song
is about pretty much basically, Yeah, that that that's been
a phobia of mine, you know, I mean, that's to

(23:18):
me there's certain things that that you you want to
keep private, and uh, the second you start exposing someone
else to that, to that world, it's sort of irresistible, uh,
for for other folks not to pay attention to that
type of thing. I think he's really about about it.
Sometimes I bumped into him on the street and pretended
like you didn't know me. That's a joke, right, is

(23:42):
trying to buy some gum? Well what are you thinking
you be singing tonight? I'm doing a couple of songs. Uh, yeah,
a little bit, a little bit of medley. Yeah, just
a little bit of taste of a taste of what
what I do. Me and a couple of my guys
from my band got together and we're gonna do a
little bit of something else, uh, just to spice up
the night. Song called Soldier, and a song that kind

(24:04):
of kicked off my career in the public eye called
I Don't Want to Be. So that's that's when that
really kind of changed my life to begin with. You know,
I got me out of the poorhouse, all right. I
actually saw you perform Soldier at the Thirst of the Thirst.
It was really cool. Yeah, that was an unbelievable night.
Man special evening, wasn't it. Yeah, If you guys aren't familiar,

(24:26):
the Thirst Gala is about building water mines in in
areas of the world that they don't have any fresh water,
and people like literally spend their entire day going to
fetch water. Absolutely so crazy, the walk miles and miles
just to get a couple of gallons of water. It's
just incredible. All right, Well, thank you guys so much
for joining us. Thank you so much. Yeah, Ashley and

(24:48):
I'll see you on stage with gaff for to hear
Brooks's rhymes. At what point are we going to bring
it to him that he's not going on stage about?
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when I came and I walked in America, I was
looking in my head like a star. I felt like
a star, and finally it happened. So it's like these
types of secret And also we'll have the point of
view of the young generation that I cannot follow sometimes
like Christ and many guys around him his age, So

(28:50):
we'll have this point of view, will have him correct
me when I make English grammatical. Lot of the show, actually,
if I may step in dewn, A lot of the
show has to do with representing a relatability factor with
the world itself. Right now, everybody's damn good fight to

(29:11):
the top. What is worth fighting for to them? Individually speaking?
You know, everybody has a damn good fight if you
want to say it in the commercial aspect of things,
but it's true. And um, the relatability factor of the
show and the people were going to be the guests
essentially we're going to be interviewing can share their fight
to where they've arrived with their success and they're in
their lives. So I think it's a very important show

(29:34):
that can bring people together to know that you know,
someone like my father and someone like myself and yourself,
and people in this room have a fight. They're fighting
for every day their purpose in life. Johnny, you um
just talked about the power positive thinking, visualizing. How do
you feel how do you feel people who have a
positive outlook differ in success than people who have a

(29:57):
negative outlook? Um, okay, we cannot be positive all the time.
I've got my dawn site a lot, and that will
be describing the show like you and everybody else. But
it's not like a technique, but it's a um, a
natural act of nature. And when it will be described

(30:20):
in the show with other people, famous people like you said,
Christopher and myself, they'll come on the show. Maybe we'll
have a champion from the UFC or a pilot. Uh,
Formula one, Formula one, how you say in English? Formula one?
We got it? Formula race car driver America and stuff

(30:43):
like that. So you I mean when you came here,
where you're from, which state? How you were able to
become so successful in in in in the radio and stuff.
My name is actually I was. I grew up in
Virginia and I went on a dating show. But that's cool, right, people,
So everybody on our show will be a star, not me,

(31:04):
not Chriz. Everybody will come on the show. They will
talk about stuff I didn't know about it like a
live YouTube visual not visual, because it's not camera. Stuff
I did not know about. It would be the correction
there because my son told me and I was doing
something to me that it's no camera on that show.

(31:25):
It's it's a it's a audio. So I said it
was a camera somewhere. He said that sometimes podcasts have
a video components to them. That's right. Why did you
choose podcasting? Well, I think you know. We were approached
by we were approached by a wonderful team. We're working
with a team called known as Cinematically. Consists of very

(31:48):
very important people in this, in this, in this this
show itself, and we couldn't be where we are without them,
so we're very grateful for that. Um Cinematically has approached
my father and I because they saw the dynamic between
us and they when when things start to get fluid
on on a on a regular basis, even at home,
we are just ourselves while interviewing people like right now,

(32:11):
and we just kind of work well off each other
when we warm up to the to the correct RPM.
But um, I think, uh, the good thing about this
show is we have so much. My father has been
through what I've been through. Being underneath such a large
name like my father and the impact he has in
the world, it's very difficult to to try to Um.
It's a fight within itself, you know, And it's like

(32:31):
you're you're trying to cast your own shadow upon your
own shadow from within the shadow that's DNA based. So
it's like it's very hard to climb that mountain, but
it's possible. And um, coming from that side of the
of the fence, it's nice to hear my father's speak
about things I never even knew about. And I think
when we interview people who can relate to the pain
he shared for his time to make it to the

(32:53):
place he's been and vice versa. With me and the
and the guests we have on the show, we can
we can really share some important stuff. And I think, um,
I think, uh, I think we can go somewhere special
with this because it's as raw and grittain real as possible.
Our podcast is a lot about relationships because we talked
predominantly about the Bachelor franchise, and do you do you

(33:14):
guys ever expect to be talking about the damn good
fight that is love and marriage and all that. I
know that you've been married a few times, but you've
been with the same woman since now exceptional, I mean
to be able to First of all, I met my
wife into in front of me in the magazine in Belgium.
She was very known in Europe as a one of

(33:37):
the first body builder champion without the Jews, you know, steroids,
very very Jews, very female looking and uh like you know.
So anyway, I came to Los Angeles and I always
wanted to be with that woman, and finally we met. Look,

(33:58):
she basically met your celebrity trash, don't I was nobody
at that time, so she uh took me in and
and then um depend on but to be able to
remarry the woman and for her to be able to
wait and to forgive, it's something amazing. And that's why
people like to stay around her family. When people come

(34:22):
to our family, they don't want to live because they
see a wife like snow white. Uh, they see kids
like they saying yes, sir lady. Because they were born, homeschooling.
I was afraid for them to go into drugs because
my past history and so well protected but also well
instructed in terms of uh A, spirituality, intuition, science, connectivity stuff.

(34:46):
We can talk about people like wow connected. You know,
we don't know Jean claud I didn't know, but the
martial arts. But we can talk about even quantum physics,
plasma and all that stuff. So they heard this crazy
girl on YouTube learning what they learning what school and
they have that type of education. So when people come
to our place, they feel this type of feel welcomed
and we can relate to people. You know. Yeah, we

(35:08):
love people. Yeah, we love people, and we want to
do that with the show. And we love animals. Howe,
how many dogs you have amongst you guys? Can I
say the number? Countdown? All right? So we started. We've
always had dogs either minimum to maximum and one heaven. Yeah,

(35:28):
everybody who comes to the house is welcomed by all
the pups. But now we're at seven. God bless those
who have passed away and left as they left. They
they lived long lives and they they've lived great lives,
long lives, and we we they're all rescues. Most of
them were rescues UM from filming locations, different sets around
the world. Um, we brought them a lot of my poor, my,
poor mom, my parents, they they and my sister and

(35:50):
I too. We all helped and contributed with the traveling.
But it was such a hard a hard trip to
bring some dogs. You know, quarantine avoiding, quarantine, all that,
all that stuff. But we love, we love animals big
on ecology. They don't care about them on the street.
They were dying. You want to take them out to
save them, and they give you so much headache. It
cost me ten times more money to save a dog

(36:11):
with all the papers, and it ridiculous, it's so, it's
so crazy, it's so it's Um. The way that I've
adopted dogs has always been quite easy, but I know
that there's a lot of people who they have to
go through so many hoops and wait so many months
just to get a rescue. Just like let's you know,
they seem like a good person. You do a home check, okay, right,

(36:34):
and not the dog have a home. And also in
our audience, what we want to do because I've got
all those fans and believe or not to go okay,
it's full of no one. I'm not I create such
a such a database, a world in the social network around, yeah, worldwide.
And we want to give this, uh not a message,

(36:55):
but to give something for people to do. And we
have a way to convince them to do so. And
it's something very big that happened, that happens, that happens,
has that has to happen. Yeah, very fast. Kind of
emotional on on on that one with my words, excuse

(37:16):
me for that. But what I think he's trying to
say is that he wants to really bring in not
only his fan base and viewers alike, he wants to
deliver a message he feels it is important, um, you know,
representing his damn good fight and representing what he represents
now past just being a star, past just good. Um.
He's personal, you know, basically, and it's it's as relatable
as it as it should be. Like other people coming

(37:38):
on our show, please open up to us. And also
our show is super optimistic. We're not here to launch
people and a new pass in this and that we
we we we live at the page. We don't understand
the past. We do we learn from it. But when
a guy come to my show is coming at the
page of today because every day, which chance for better words? Yeah,

(38:02):
I think about myself even nine months ago, and I'm like,
I wouldn't have picked that alphite out. Oh my god,
Oh my god. We have more people sitting next to me,
like my husband. He's back. You guys, I know you're like,

(38:24):
this is a second podcast this week that Charon's been on.
Is it really? Oh yea the live podcast? I forgot
about that, But I'm not alone. I have my co
host from the greatest podcast that ever was Help I
Suck at Dating Dean, I'm Glenn Suck. Help my sucking
day a little. We're gonna work on a chance. My

(38:45):
first question for you is, truly, like the podcast pride
is real. I've never seen somebody shout out their own
podcast or get so hype when it's brought up than
you two. Why it's a movement? You suck reason movement.
It's not stopping. We're coming from the People Choice Awards.
We're coming for podcast awards because you're not nominated today. No,

(39:08):
which excuse my language, but it's bull Viva love revolucy on.
You want to know what's funny is you know in
soccer and soccer matches in international sports. The only team
that shouts their name in the matches USA. We're the
only ones that go US usay every other country they
have like a song or anthem. Does that make us
like obnoxious or awesome horribly obnoxious? I don't know. I

(39:29):
think it kind of makes its awesome. Well. I appreciate
that because I feel like we're adopting that same mentality.
Help helping made I think I'm gonna I'm gonna dar
Deane to get up on stage tonight as somebody accepts
the pop category, talk about this. We're pulling. We're pulling
a full Kanye. There are relationships in dating category because

(39:52):
there should be no there's like TV and film. I
think that it could be in film. It should be
relationships and dating. I agree there might have been motivation
which we could potentially fall under. I'm gonna let you finish,
but Jared was the best co hosted two nine Dean.
If you did this, you guys would get so many
listens literally conversations. We'd be iconic. But the problem is

(40:14):
Dean can't do it because you know he's not gonna.
He wouldn't have because the correct him coming, because you
would take so long security attackle me well before I
got to the mic at least. But I don't I
don't think you'll be able to pull it off in
the same way. What the hell is that supposed to be?
You know, you're too like suave like I've got. Wouldn't
that be a good thing you need to be. We

(40:35):
gottaet him a couple of drinks deep, and I think
he might be might be game. I've seen him a
couple of drinks deep. You've seen me a couple of
drinks deep. So how do we so we don't even
know what he's capable of. We don't exactly, guys, you
don't even know the beast within. Have you tried the
Bartesian out there? We had it on Help I Suck
a Dating weeks ago? Really, yeah, we did for the
Christmas episode. I was thinking, like, we don't even drink

(40:57):
mixed drinks in the house all that much, but we
should get one of those. I mean, it's pretty cool. Okay,
So I my biggest question, and I feel like the
audience's biggest question for you guys in your podcast, is
how can you still suck at dating if you're both
in serious loving relationships. Do you want me to take
this one? I would love for you too. Al Right, listen,
listen to everybody who's listening currently right now. Listen up,

(41:21):
open those ears. Guys. We all suck at dating, whether
in relationships, whether we're single, it does not matter, because
there's all things that we could work on get better at.
There are aspects of marriage that I suck at. Give
them examples, Give me examples what you suck at. I
could do a far better job of surprising you. What

(41:43):
do you mean surprising me? Just bringing home flowers every
once in a while. It's it's things that I'm currently
working on. Really, I haven't seen any work actually, because
in all other aspects of marriage, I'm perfect. So I
have to have one thing I suck at in order
for the podcast to be successful. It's for the big baby.
This is why I don't get surprises. What you doesn't

(42:04):
mean so much for me, I know, but I'm working
on a Dean. Would you agree, though, that there's all
aspects that we suck at. I think you know that
right on the head. I think just because you're in
a relationship doesn't mean you don't suck at dating. Just
because you're married doesn't mean you don't suck at dating.
Just because you're single doesn't mean you don't suck at dating.
I think anyone can listen to the podcast and learn
things because it's not just us sharing our experiences. It's
also we have relationship experts, therapists, authors, et cetera that

(42:28):
come on the podcast and divulge all of their information
and all their wisdom upon us. And even like, like
I was saying, you don't have to be married in
a relationship or whatever your status is, you can still
take something from it, which is nice. You guys. Later
in the podcast and Nick Vile is coming on, do
we think that Nick sucks at dating? Absolutely? Yeah? Why
does Nick suck at dating? I think Nick is uh

(42:51):
And I say this as somebody who was part of
the groomsmen party that sits in front of me. Well,
Nick will never agree to this, but I think he's picky,
very Oh my god, I think you'd agree with you.
I think you might be the pickiest person that I met.
Incredibly picky averything up to me. He's like he and
I are like the same amount of picky, Like there's
always something wrong even if it's perfect. There's always something wrong,

(43:11):
and he's just the epitome of a single guy living
in Los Angeles. It's hard paradox and choice kind of
like paralyzes people. You know, He's got so many options,
and Nick he's a you know, he's acting, he's obviously
used to be the bachelor. He's got a lot of
things going for him, and so a lot of women
probably would want to date him. And so sometimes that
ability to choose things that mobilizes you and makes you
question whether there's maybe something better around the next corner. Yeah,

(43:34):
that that's the millennial problem. Is there something better with Instagram? Now?
I'm sure Nick's dms are off the charts, blowing up,
you know daily. How is it felt to not check
that DM that other DM section for you over the
past seven or eight months. Well, I still check it,
but they'll check it to Yeah, it's just for fun
some of the business recently. Yeah, because there are people

(43:54):
that will reach out and be like, hey, do you
want to like a pair of sweatpants and just tag
us on into a grand story like yeah, I would
love a parent swap pants, Thank you so much. But
it does it does feel good. I was walking through
the airport the other day when we were flying back
from Europe, and uh, I just had like randomly stopped
dead in my tracks. Caitlin as well ahead of me
because I embarray slow in my coutches, and I was like,
I'm so glad I'm in a relationship and I know
have to be single anymore. It just being single as exhausting.

(44:17):
I have a friend who just broke up with her
boyfriend of two years this week, and I keep thinking
about her at thirty, needing to be back on the
dating field, and I'm like, that is stressful, and especially
since like so many of your other friends are in
serious relationships. Like who do you go out with to
like try to meet people? And it's just like you,
it's a relatability thing. It's like fun for five seconds

(44:39):
and then you're completely over it. Right, Um, what is
what is Caitlin's number one complaint like about what you
stuck at dating? Oh? Man, Well, she's just so sweet.
She doesn't really complain about much of anything. Uh. Sometimes
I get maybe drive the sarcasm home a little too hard,
like publicly, I feel like maybe not like between you too,

(45:00):
but I feel like like you kind of get on
her at Twitter on Twitter sometimes we're in interviews that
probably annoys her. No, but she maybe at first, but
she Like what I really adore about her is she's
kind of taking that whole thing and stride and now
she spits it right back at me twice as hard.
So it's like what she what used to be her
biggest grievance against me, she's turned into. One of my

(45:20):
favorite things about her is that she's able to put
it back on me too. That's so cute. My last
question for you guys is, um, well, sorry, baby, it's
not for you. Well, it's like it's harder for me
to come with interview questions for you since you're my husband. Yeah,
we talk constantly. Yeah, um, Dean, I need to know
about all the things that you now appreciate, even more

(45:40):
about Kaylin after she went to Switzerland and like help
you truck through Europe and all the nursing that she
did for you. Like I want like a little bit
of mush for the next sixty seconds. Oh my gosh,
Musch is not really my strong now, but it's so
sweet when it does come out. Um, I do appreciate
your coming her. I appreciate her coming out to help me.
There were a lot of times she called me and
she was like, hey, I'm gonna fly out to Switzerland,
like help you. I was like, no, like, don't come.

(46:02):
I don't want you to be bored in the hospital
with me. You're not gonna be doing anything. Um. And
there were times when you know, obviously she had like
carry my luggage to the airport and she had Today
actually was the first day since the accident that I
put my own shoes on and tied to myself. Really
proud of that. Um. So she was responsible for doing
that for me up until today basically. And I kind
of got a note at myself a few times because
there were like things that she would mistakenly do or

(46:24):
like forget to do, like forget to get me something
from Starbucks or something so silly like that, and I
would like get kind of annoyed, and then I was like, wait,
why am I getting annoyed at this person that's trying
to help me. Um. But she was great every step
of the way. You know. It's really telling of her
to just kind of drop everything and come and help
me through the recovery process in Europe. And I appreciate
her for that it would have been a much, much

(46:45):
grimmer situation had she not been around. And so Kitlin,
if you're listening to this, which I'm sure you are,
I really appreciate you doing that for me. And if
the roles ever reverse, God forbid that ever happens, I
will be there for you as well. And I love you.
Thanks all right, thank you, guys for the best love.

(47:07):
I love you. To make sure you guys listen and
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(49:40):
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Lela is a sex and intimacy and professional relationship coach.
And I'm having my husband joined me on this segment
because you guys are sex intimacy relationship experts and we're

(50:00):
going to get a little like sexy and this this. Uh.
I'm so glad he's here because our show is not
just for women. Are shows from men as well? Perfect
and people think it's like this chatty girle and just
Intimate Knowledge day. It's for everyone. So glad the hobbies here. Well,
it's kind of like, girls listen to the Man podcast
because they want to know what um to do. You know,

(50:23):
they want to know how to speak to their husbands
and their their partners. The best. People want to know
what the other sex is thinking. Yeah, and so then
guys should listen to you to figure out what women want.
And they do and they do figure out what it's great,
what everybody win? What do you think men don't get
about women the most? I know that's a very loaded question,

(50:45):
but like of all your listener questions that you get emailed,
what's a theme that comes up all the time? Go ahead,
I feel like Leela would be good at this one.
Women learning they really yearning to be touched, for their
hearts to be touched, for there to be seen. I

(51:05):
tell you this, and it's like the real key to
this is women are deeply yearning the presence of their
man like and you know you started that out by
saying touched, But what she really means, she means like
everywhere soul hot connection, connect, Like, don't look at your
phone when you're talking to me, Like, I need to

(51:27):
make eye contact. I want to press something. I want
to see for you here, I want to feel you
seeing me in our first episode when we were talking
about what intimacy means to everyone, and it was incredible.
It's so different. That's what we really talked about, the
being seen. That's I think what we're all like, yearning
and striving. I'm not from the men, get that. What

(51:49):
do you what? He's real turning? Are you? Are you
being present right now? I'm very present. What do you
something about? Yeah? I agree, I mean from my experience
being married and being in relationships. Yeah, I guess women.
I think it's just it goes back to vulnerability. I

(52:11):
think that men have difficulty being vulnerable with their counterpart,
and so I think probably a lot of times you
bring up looking at your phone while in the midst
of a conversation. Most of the time, I'm sure when
guys look at their phone, the conversations about something serious,
and so they just avoid eye contact because they don't
want to be vulnerable because eyes obviously are a pathway

(52:31):
to the soul. So I think, and I think women
are far more willing to be vulnerable. And this is
a it's a real skill actually, to to a skill
and to feel a willingness. Yes, these vulnerables really Yeah,
and to build the capacity to hold that. Like you said,

(52:52):
a lot of men like divert their eyes or draw
their attention elsewhere, um, instead of like deeply connecting, because
it can be a lot to hold. And so a
man has to be deeply present within him embodied within
himself to be able to show up for a woman.
You guys talk about sex a lot in the podcast,
and um, here should we get a little should we

(53:14):
like be a little revealing right now? Yeah, it's okay.
So everybody knows that I was you know, I was
a virgin for a long time. That was my thing
on the Bachelor, And um, I think because I started
later in life, I like have this thing where like
I have such a hard time feeling sexy, Like I
cannot present myself as sexy. Like I can feel hot,

(53:36):
like I can look in the mirror and be like
you're having a really good day, like you're really pretty,
but like I can't like be sexy, So like I
need advice from you ladies. Look things like I can
feel like I look in the mirror and I'd be like, yeah,
it look good, but like I can't like like put
on like a sexy persona. It's so interesting to hear
you say that, because your body language is sexy and
you are as like a sexy woman exuding that. And

(53:58):
this is an amazing inversation because it comes from within
such a deep place. And what we're talking about a
lot on our podcast is about getting in touch and
dialing in and discovering and tapping into all of the
powerful feminine qualities that we all possess and sort of
owning that and giving ourselves permission. We talk a lot
about permission to feel, to discover and to find freedom

(54:20):
in that. And like I look at you, even the
way you are moving, you're so sexy in your in
your body language. So it's about I think, changing your
inner dialogue and you know that inner messaging um and
feeling it from a deep, authentic place because it's actually
already happening. You might be in a little wit denial,
thank you. I think. I think it's definitely my sister, who,

(54:41):
like I know, I blame her for this all the time.
It's because like all of my twenties, she was like, actually,
oh my god, you're so awkward. Oh my god, you're
so awkward, Like I can't ever imagine you like that.
And I really think that it went to my soul. Yeah. Yeah, well,
you know when you are very sexy. Let me say this,
I do you think you are awkward, But that's your

(55:02):
your that's your person, that's who you are, that's your
most endearing quality. But I also think it goes back,
if I'm being honest, to confidence, because it's so confident
in every other territory. That's let me let me explained.
I think even Brook, like you guys, you leaders, are
saying Ashley is very sexy right now because she's in

(55:23):
a podcast studio on a mike, very confident because she
does this all the time, and this is like this
is your this is your thing. You know, you know, like, hey,
I got this, I can interview like a podcast, I
can talk. You're very confident in that area. I think
sometimes because everybody well knows you might be a little
inexperienced in some aspects of relationships, you lack the confidence,

(55:44):
and I think your awkwardness comes out because you're also
the person that you can't hide anything. So when you
are feeling awkward, you are putting that vibe out and
you're like, I don't feel comfortable, and I'm I am
I do is this not good? Like, I don't know,
and it's sort of adorable. But don't we all feel

(56:05):
awkward at times? Awkward at times? Well yeah, otherwise we'd
just be arrogant, we'd be like walking around owning it
and it wouldn't be as attractive. So that might be
your most attractive quality. But when you tap into that,
that's sensual confidence. Girl, it's an it's sexy that you know.
It's not like what someone looks like. It's what how

(56:27):
they are feeling and that coming through you know, it's
um it's really an energy. It's someone who is feeling themselves.
You can see like someone who isn't what we deem
to be sexy walking down the street. But if if
that person is feeling themselves so they are their senses
are alive and that is emanating through their body, that

(56:48):
is sexy. And that's what we're seeing in you right
here when you're talking and you can I can see
and feel all the energy moving from your body and
it's coming out. Damn, you're really you're you're feeding me that.
We're going to talk about this on our in our
next episode. I think on Monday. B D E b
D is so it's big dick energy. Yeah, Like and

(57:11):
guys have it, like a really confident like centual dude
will have b D And it's not necessarily a compliment
or a bad thing, just it is. But women can
have it as well. So it's this, it's this like
it's like a confidence like a it's like, um, not
an ambiance if you will. And it's interesting and it's

(57:31):
kind of like this powerful feeling. I feel like that's
what Pete Davidson has and that's why he gang. Okay,
if you Urban Dictionary b d E because I have
his name is on there. There we go, because like
he's cutesy and he's super funny. But like it's because
Dictionary know where we know what. We thank God for

(57:54):
the Urban Dictionary, right we are learning back in the scene.
I gotta I gotta like learning these these acronyms. I
haven't make it a nightcrack about that kind of stuff
that because we're like Google searching, like searching. Oh yeah,
I have this. So I thought i'd bring this up
on this podcast because I have this sponsorship with k
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(58:19):
resting pleasured to face instead of resting bitch face. And
I feel like lube is one of those taboo things
with sex. What do you think is a taboo that
people just need to get over and be like, you know,
we should just talk about it. I didn't add with
them last year for Valentine's n and I was and
I was like a little bit nervous. Yeah, but I

(58:40):
was like, you know what, I have sex and I
am okay with that, So like, why am I not
okay with telling the public that I have sex? Love?
And I did that, right girl, That's good. And I
get why you're a little like hesitant that accomplign like that.
I get it. But it was empowering because we all
do it. Yeah, and like we do like lube, right, yeah,

(59:00):
we do. No, I'm glad to do that because I
do think that, like, as a society, we should be
talking more about sex because the only way it doesn't
become a taboo topic is is if people are rave
enough to talk about it And lube is a great
example of because people always feel weird about talking about luke,
but it is a part of sex. I mean, like
we talked about there's like it's a great way drug. Yeah,

(59:23):
remind me in our next episode to bring something up
that I won't get into right now in the loop department. Okay,
do not let me forget Okay, talking about and coconut
oil and don't don't let me coconut oil I heard
was not good because like oil can like make little
cuts or something. No, it's good for everything and everything.

(59:46):
I have false information. Don't listen to me. I have
two more questions for you, ladies. Um, I have a
friend right now who has gone on two dates with
a guy. She likes him a lot, The conversation is great,
they have a great energy between them. Um, but she
like doesn't feel like it's her person. Do you think

(01:00:07):
that you always have to give three dates? Because that's
always been the rule that my mom taught me that
my my sister in law, she wasn't sure about my
brother in law until the third date. I feel like
the third day is a magical number, and I'm just
should she give him the third day or like if
you're if you're not feeling it's your forever person by

(01:00:28):
date to then you just got I don't know about
what forever person, Maybe not forever if you're not excited,
I guess for a third date. If you're not excited
for a third date, do you go on one just
to like give it it's all, or do you cut
it off at the second day? Three dates For me
seems like a great investment of time. I mean, maybe

(01:00:49):
you get to the second date. If you I mean,
I don't know, Like yeah, you're like I have kids,
Like you know, who the hell has that kind of time?
I'd rather tell it, I say, follow. I think she
should follow her guy fellow, her instinct. She doesn't have
to have reasons and kind of have logical explanations for
how she's actually feeling. That's what that's what she to

(01:01:11):
be guided by. Like on paper he's good, but like
there's something in his in her gut that says that
is going to be nagging at her or if she
or not, if or if it continues that first thought
and impulses going to I think we should be talking
ourselves out of that gut feeling and compromising like at

(01:01:31):
the stage, and we're championing the mind over what is felt.
And I think that's a huge mistake. Actually, I love that, Like,
don't champion the mind over what your heart and your
gut are saying. We're obsessed by what says rather than
I also have another friend who is seeing a guy
that she really likes, but the kissing is bad. What

(01:01:53):
do you do? Get out? Run run back. I've definitely
trained a few people. I think they can be trained. Absolutely.
I think there's a lot of misleading. You might have
had some very misleading information before, and so I think

(01:02:15):
he's likely could be trained. So another girl may have
given him bad lessons, bad feedback. Everybody needs feedback, especially
without our bodies, Like I think I think we need
some roadmaps. Is like, no, I dump it. I just
feel like I've raised for children. I'm looking at me
and going training right now. You know hard we're working

(01:02:37):
on to like we design our lives and raise our
kids like I would like long term maybe if it's
your but just providing some value information like a little
to the left. You know that's valuable. And I've glows
back and a little bit slower. I'm looking at my
husband now, and I know that this man doesn't like
criticism and nic kind. What's your mail take on that

(01:02:59):
you can give him tips? Or is he going to
take that bad? I mean guys have big egos, so
it might not. I think it's probably what's best for him,
but they probably won't take it the best. Guess what
about I guess the delivery of the style in which
somebody Well, of course, Cosmo always like, love it when
you do this, even if he's not doing it like that.

(01:03:20):
I think that's legit good. Yeah, say that again. Cosmo
will suggest that you're like, oh, I love it when
you do this. It's like, you know, like you try
to point them to the right direction and instead of
telling him what's wrong. Yeah, that makes sense. Alright, Well, ladies,
this listen. This has been so much fun. I want
to be on your podcast. Okay, Well, we also want

(01:03:41):
to know what people want us to talk about and
what they think, and so we're sort of developing this
and evolving this for everyone because it's such a personal conversation.
So yeah to us, yeah, god, Dad, give it to us.
Sounds good. Maybe I'll just like drop in the studio
sometime when you're recordings and they come out Monday's. That's right,
every Monday. I knew episod own and knowledge. Thanks for

(01:04:01):
having Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you all. Right, next, guest,
I know we keep rolling through them. This is insane.
We have Yardley Smith. She is most famous for her
role as Lisa Simpson on The Simpsons for the past

(01:04:24):
thirty years. Lisa Simpson is as old as me. Well,
actually I'm a year older than her, but still, Um,
you're Yardley is an actress, a producer, a writer. You
have been everywhere TV, Broadway, You've been as good as
it gets Dharma and Gregg, the Tracy Yelloman Show. And
now you have a podcast called small Town, Big Dicks,

(01:04:45):
Big Crime, Big time crime happening in small town USA.
How do we go from all that comedy to a
true crime podcast? Actually, it's it's just small town Dix,
smalltown Dick. I don't know the tagline. We've made a
tagline for you if you will get thanks, thanks for that. Uh.

(01:05:06):
Dick's being the the noir slang for detective. Um you know?
I oh? Is that why? Like they called him Dick Tracy. Yes, yes,
learning things all the time on the almost famous podcast. UM.
I have always been fascinated by people who aren't interested

(01:05:28):
in following the rules that the rest of us following
order for society to function well. And then since there
are those people in the world, I also want to
know that there is another group of people that are
willing to put the train back on the tracks in
order for society to continue to function well. So that
means that I want to know that there's law enforcement
who take their job really seriously, who feel that it

(01:05:51):
is a calling and not just a job, who are
willing to line up all the dominoes exactly right. And
what I've learned on our podcast is that in order
for an investigation to result in justice, you have no
idea how much granular detail needs to be put in
place in order for all of these things to line

(01:06:13):
up precisely, in order for a d A to file,
in order for justice to be served, so that this perpetrator,
this criminal who has been who has committed a crime
against a person, against a home, against you know, society
can be put in jail and we all feel a
little bit safer. Have you watched with cats? You know?

(01:06:38):
I've Actually it's so funny you say that because about
seven people say yardly, because I love cats, I have
two cats, You've got to watch with cats and that
I'm like okay, well and they're like okay, but there's
just you know, they don't show you what to the cats,
but you know, it's kind I'm like, Okay, I'm not sure,
I gotta I think you should watch it because especially

(01:07:00):
you're so interested on the side of the people trying
to do good and get these people in jail. You'll
see like this huge Facebook community I know what happened
Like it's a community of like regular non criminal expert
and who say, dude, law enforcement listened to me. There
is a dude who's killing kittens and he's going to

(01:07:21):
escalate and he's gonna start killing people and guess what,
oh he did. It was fascinating to see like how
behind the times the real professionals were there. It is, um,
you know, it's it's really all those stories are so
interesting because when you think about what we have learned
from our detectives, because all of the cases on our

(01:07:43):
podcast are told by the detectives who investigated the case,
so which is really quite unusual in the podcast space.
You see it much more on television. So, um, what
we've learned is that the case load never gets less, right,
there to do list never gets smaller. And they, as
I said, they really consider their job of calling not

(01:08:05):
just a job. And these cases really stick with them.
So what I do on my side of the table,
as the lay person is I want to know not
just what it took to take this investigation from soup
to nuts, but I want to know as a human being,
when you are the person who pursues humanity, who sees

(01:08:25):
the worst of humanity every single day, where does that
live in you? When you have a family, if you
have a wife or a husband, um and children, where
does that go and you at the end of a day.
A lot of those guys struggle, all of them. It's
really really hard, and they all say, well, you know,
we just put it in a box. But what's also

(01:08:45):
true is the lock on that box isn't that good? Yeah,
it's They have a lot inside them, and I think
a lot of them struggle keep the struggle to keep
it in. It's and you ultimately you can't really keep
it in, and so they it's unhealthy. They process it
with each other because they also feel like, no matter
how close I am to you, the light person, right,

(01:09:08):
my partner, my um, mother, my sister, my whatever, you
have no idea what I've actually seen. You have no
idea what it was like to try to do CPR
on that baby and it didn't work. You have no
idea what it was like to explain to those three
children that they're dad just killed their mom and so

(01:09:28):
those things. So they process those experiences with their fellow
law enforcement personnel and then at the end of the day,
as you say, I mean, there's a lot of sort
of emotional stress that goes along with that, and so
they're just I always feel like everybody has a story,
no matter what the story is. Everybody feels like their

(01:09:50):
story isn't that interesting, and everybody is wrong. Everybody's like, oh,
it's boring, But like I'm compelled by a people's supposed
boring stories. There's so wrong about that. It is the
It's in the details, no matter what the details are.
This week are the Aaron Hernande's story came out on
and I watched it yes on Netflix. I finished it

(01:10:11):
last night as well. My my husband and I are
big Patriots fans, and he came into the bedroom of
the morning it came out and he was like, the
Aaron Hernande's documentary dropped him and I was like, Yay,
We're gonna go watch it tonight. During what we eat dinner?
It was like very exciting, and then I'm like this
is so crazy, Like yeah, I'm excited to learn about
this horrible story of multiple people dying, about this absolutely

(01:10:35):
tormented man. Why do you think that we are so
obsessed with true crime? Because I think that by and large,
we recognize, like I said, that society only functions if
we really do all abide by a certain set of rules.
If we don't, we have complete and utter chaos. So

(01:10:56):
who are these people who, especially the ones who are
really successful and or gifted and or um, the ones
who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, like um, Aaron
Hernandez who was had extraordinary talent as an athlete and
he then made that into incredible opportunities. He made it
onto the Patriots, right he was a fourth round draft pick.

(01:11:19):
Then there was like, what the hell is happening? How
come he hasn't been chosen? Oh my god, Oh my god.
And then he becomes this huge star and then like okay, no, wait,
what the is happening here? What? And he was this
huge star and then everybody had to sort of pull
on the reins and go, hang on, this isn't right.
And I think there is a kind of a kind

(01:11:41):
of is there is there anything inside of me that
is like that? And if there isn't anything inside of
me that's like that, how did he get like that? Right?
And so if you watch that documentary, you'll see there's
a theory that he had the brain in tree right
at the very n C T e um. And then

(01:12:03):
there is the well, he was gay and he couldn't
handle that, And then there is though he was abused
as a kid. There are so many theories, but at
the end of the day will probably really never know.
And so I think there's a fascination of what actually
made him go over the edge. And then there are
people who say, well, I don't think it was him.

(01:12:24):
I don't think he actually pulled the trigger. But for
I gotta tell you, So, I watched that documentary with
Detective Dan. Right, Who's who? So? I co host my
podcast with Detective Dan and Detective Day for Identical Twins. Right,
and so I watched that documentary Detective Dan, and he says,
listen to me as a detective. A guy who gets

(01:12:47):
in a car with four people, one of them ends
up dead half a mile from the house of Aaron Hernandez,
who then goes into his house, goes into his basement
and comes out with a glock that the dude was
that Odin was killed with. Half an hour later and
his lawyer is going, it could have been an iPad

(01:13:07):
or a cell phone. Dan is like, dude, that's not true.
That's a glock like a little burry and oh it
could yeah, it's we don't really know it's it has
a very specific um shape to it, that gun. And so,
you know, it's really fascinating to watch. I only so

(01:13:30):
it's ruined doing the true crime podcast is actually ruined
um uh, scripted true crime, scripted crime shows for me,
because now I'm like, ah, that's crime Light. I can't
watch that now. I only want to watch Oxygen and
I D Discovery and stuff and stuff like that. And
it's really fascinating to watch it from a real detective's

(01:13:53):
point of view, because of course he'll always tell you
in the first two minutes, like, ah, I'll tell you
who I'm like. Also, it's like, my dad's a doctor
and you can't watch Gray's Anatomy with him because he's
like this says both like all the entire episode, the
same with the same with Dan He's like, the badge
is in the wrong place. That's not how you hold

(01:14:14):
Then never do that. You can never enter a room
that way. I'm like, could you just I'm just it's
just television. It's television. Yes, enjoy it, right, Yes. My
last question for you is, of all the podcasts you've
done thus far, what's the story that sticks out to
you the most that will really sell our audience to
listen to your podcast. Oh gosh, um, really there are

(01:14:37):
We've done over seventy episodes now we just closed our
fifth season, although we're only about two and a half
years old. There are two. I'll give you two because
I can't. It's trying to like trying to pick your
favorite child, but we don't want you to make Sophie,
thank you, thank you. Um. We have one four part
series in season one called The Sociopath and the Whistleblower,
which is about one of our detect tis investigating a

(01:15:01):
bad cop on his own police force, which is fascinating
and heartbreaking and it ruined the whole small town. And
then we have another one that aired at the end
of this past season five, which just aired about a
man who executed a guy when he was fourteen years

(01:15:22):
old and was put away for seventeen years and got
out on um a thing called a second look. Uh.
We actually on our podcast, we don't give any of
the names or places where the crimes took place. But
in the second case, exactly because you don't want to
give fame to the criminals. Um. We actually it's out
of respect for the victims. Okay, I was going to

(01:15:42):
say that's on the other side, yes, yes, And also
because many of our detectives are still working, and so
we don't want any of them ever to be on
the stand and have a prosecutor going. So you're part
of that podcast called small Town Dicks, right, so, Um,
but this guy, his name is Trevor Walraven and because

(01:16:03):
his case is quite famous, Um, he executed a man
when he was fourteen years old, and then he got
caught a week later, and he doing what after you
got a week after he got out of jail, he
got caught doing no. No, he got caught for having
murdered this man a week later. So and then he
got put in prison for seventeen years and now he's

(01:16:26):
out and now he's an advocate for youth offenders. And
it's a fascinating two part interview. Yeah, and you can
get our podcast everywhere you like to listen, so Apple
podcast as your Google play, um, you name it, We're there.
Thank you so much. Has been so cool. You're cool.
Thank you all right. Next up, we have a Nick

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started this podcast, Easton asked me, He's like, is it
harder to come up with questions for your actual close
friends than it is these strangers? And the answers Absolutely.
I enjoyed by one of my good friends, Nick Vial

(01:19:01):
of the Vial Files, which he's here at the I
Heart Podcast Awards celebrating. He needs no introduction, especially with
our audience. Bet, I was gonna call you Ben. And
also I feel like good friend is a little kind
of underselling our relationship. If I speaking freely, should I
say best friend, my best friend, you're one of my

(01:19:23):
best friend. You know, groom groomsmen, bridal party here a
bridal party friend, performer at your wedding. Performer. He sure
did perform. He recited did you did you? You did
Harry met Sally? Right? Yeah, So he did a monologue
at the ceremony, the Harry met Sally scene before the

(01:19:44):
clock strikes midnight. He did an outstanding performance and he
filled in last minute from somebody who had stage right.
But you know, you were definitely the best decision. Acting
classes are finally paying off shore are so I called
you Ben in the beginning. My first question is do
you think that you or Ben looks more like Peter Pete?

(01:20:09):
Pilot Pete? Yes, you you even put a picture. You
took a picture of the two of you next to
each other, and you're like doubledangers. All right. I've seen
some pictures where they're up. There will be times or
I'll see a picture of Pete and at first glance,
I'm like, that was that like an old photo of me?
Or I don't think he really looks like Ben? Okay,

(01:20:32):
I think I thought he looked so much like Benn
has a boyish look, but their eyes, the dimensions of
their face, like their face shape. I thought there was
so much better in him, and then look, I think
that's I think it's the boys. I think there's something
Doughey in their eyes, like Doughey into like a nice
like Dollway. I think it's it's that boyish charm that

(01:20:55):
they both have. Okay, So anyway, so Peter was sitting
next to me and I was like, oh my god,
you are the actual child of Nick and Ben, and
then you also became the Bachelor. It was weird. I
think it's very attractive. Yes, he's very attractive. He has
your coloring, and he has been structure is very is
wild to see. Why do you Nick feel like when

(01:21:19):
a person becomes the Bachelor they go to Ben for
advice and not you. I think so, yes, I don't know,
and I've talked to Peter, okay, but I feel like
Ben is like, then, why do you think that Ben
is the godfather of the franchise? You're you're dropping these

(01:21:42):
truths on me. I didn't know. You don't think that
like Ben has looked at as the like the president
of the Bachelor. I guess No, No, I feel like yes,
you apparently don't. I think Ben's great. I mean, sure,
I'd go to him for advice. I didn't know that.

(01:22:02):
Did you go to him for advice when he became
the bachelor? He gave me advice and we had we
had we had dinner and before I went so I
got him him and Lauren? Who else did you get?
Actually gave me better advice than that? What did she say? She?
You know, she just told me to focus and I
don't know, she just told me to protect the relationship.
If I thought I was going to pick someone. Okay,

(01:22:24):
that's good. That's good advice. Did you talk to any
other bachelors beforehand? Beforehand when I was going to be
the best? No? No, I didn't. That was you know,
that was that was all I needed. I guess relevance
may Chris a little bit? Yeah, maybe Chris souls um. Okay. So,

(01:22:46):
in addition to the viral files, which you talked about
a number of things, it's not just bachelor oriented. You
do interviews with relationship experts, a list celebrities, and you
also do questions with Nick every Sunday on Instagram. Questions
with Nick is when people send in all these questions

(01:23:08):
when you know, you set up the Q and A thing,
what is the number one? Like? What is the question
that you get every single week? And you're like, are
you kidding me? I'm getting this question again? Uh. They're
generally different variations of is he into me? Like why
hasn't he called? Right? Yeah, it's it's either it's it's
like why hasn't he called? Or what does he mean

(01:23:30):
by this? It's more it's a lot of more like
what does he mean your Your answers are almost always
he's not dying to you. Well, there's a lot of
those themes that try to be more specific. It's, uh,
it's more or less about it's less about he's not
that into you and more about uh trying to encourage,

(01:23:51):
And it seems to be more women asking questions, but
trying to encourage them to maybe have greater expectations of
uh their own require mention dating, greater expectations for their
own requirements, like do you think that girls should be
shooting higher? And they're like kind of settling for less.
I think a lot well, for what I've noticed with questions,

(01:24:12):
I think a lot of young women tend to um
be more worried about whether he likes her, and that
seems to be their biggest concerns. You know, what do
I like about him? Do I like that he does this?
Do I not like that he does that? Um, it's

(01:24:33):
seemed to kind of dismiss all these things all around.
Does he like me? So I try to, you know,
in different ways, you know, point that out. Okay, so
you obviously like we haven't seen you in a relationship
that lasted a long long time. Why do you Why
do you think that you can teach like those who

(01:24:54):
can't teach. I don't even suggest that I can teach.
I just you know, people ask me a question, I
of an answer. I don't know if they like it.
I don't even know. I'm not even suggesting it's the
right advice. It's just the advice I'm it's not even advice.
It's more just like your feedback. This is my feedback. Also,
you know, coaches don't play you know kind of thing,

(01:25:16):
but at all seriousness. I mean, I think, you know,
try like you learn, you can learn more from failure
and you learn from from disappointment. UM. And I will
say a lot of sometimes the advice I give is
is based off of things I've learned in the past,
and points of view that I used to have when

(01:25:37):
I was younger, um, and and things that you know
I learned to you know, have you learned to view
the world differently and learn how to be a little
bit more honest with myself? And so those are kind
of things I try to to to suggest, but again
I don't know if I'm right. Sometimes I want to, like,
I read through your questions and I think I'm gonna

(01:25:59):
scrench his his answer, the question, his answer, and then
give my own answer and like, just see the parallels.
Shall I do that one time? Do you think we
wouldn't be annoyed? You know, I'm going to like approach
everything with a little bit more rainbows and butterflies than
you are. Are you? I feel like you would always
constantly just post a photo of you and Jared and

(01:26:20):
be like, well, I'm the exception to the rule. Are
very much exception To try to tell people that smart
it's quite honestly, well, it's a great story. It's a
very dangerous story to tell. It is. It is my
last question for you, And because we have to get
go into the awards soon, obviously there's a little friction

(01:26:41):
between the by all files and the almost as podcasts.
Love Jed, I do love Tea. I'm talking about my podcast.
I just said the almost same as podcast. I thought
you said, I hope a second there's friction. Oh, I
know there's friction between the second. I love to tease you, guys,
there's enough. There's enough of love to all. I'm in
teasing friction. Of course. Tell our audience if they don't

(01:27:05):
listen to the viral files and what they're going to
get there? What was your favorite episode, your best interview
for them to go listen to to get them hooked?
Two on my podcast? Yeah, well, I mean if you like,
for one, we do well. Now we're doing three episodes
a week during well Bachelor's on. So if you if
you like listening to people's dating stories all across the spectrum,

(01:27:28):
it's very interesting and relatable, and we try to give
our opinions of what people should or shouldn't do and
their interating situations and timetimes. Sometimes we have a guests
to help me out, uh, and then we do like
some very interesting interviews and with batchler people or other
dating experts or just other celebrities and just try to
have interesting conversations. And then when the Bachel's on, Will

(01:27:49):
Will recap The Bachelor every Tuesday. I'm going to give
you a really big compliment here. Thanks. Actually, no one
recaps with so many thoughts as Nick does, and Nick
analyze is the episode so in detail, like he'll give
you all the perspectives. Hey, well, I mean I've I
lived it all, all the sides you've lived, loved it all,

(01:28:13):
Mr Vil to break it down. But you know, you
guys are the You guys are the O G. Batchelor.
We thanks. Look look at us giving compliments to go
around so much love all right, love you Nick. All right.

(01:28:37):
I have my husband joining me again because we have
a couple that is doing their own I heeart podcast
called He said, Oh man, this ideal. It's Rosalind Chances
and Eric Winter and Rosalind I just like I watched

(01:28:58):
TV Spades and I watched I Know it's hell a
big fan of yours. That's really really cool to have
you on the podcast. And then Eric is currently on
ABC's The Rookie and here you guys have a podcast
about marriage and how you guys both came from two
very different cultural backgrounds and how that works out in marriage. Yes, yeah,
we're pretty much just even outside of marriage, we're just

(01:29:19):
the epitome of opposites. I guess attract in a way.
I mean, I think we're still attracting to each other.
Attracted every podcast, right, like more sex anymore? Wow? Really? Um?
So yeah, it's really a podcast about coming at everything
from our complete opposite perspectives on life, marriage, kids, pop culture, um,

(01:29:43):
and just diving in and having fun with it. What
do you guys feel like is the part of your
relationship where you're the most different? Well, there's so many things.
Oh that's the next question. U are we the most different?
I think the differences came hardcore after we had kids,

(01:30:09):
but we but we have differences for sure. As you
start to raise a little you know, a little people,
you start to realize how I mean, some people do
everything exactly the same. But we, for whatever reason, a
lot of our differences and raising kids came front and center.
And that was more about how we were in life too,
with schedules and timing and you know, I'm very much
by the book and straightforward with everything, and I like

(01:30:31):
to have everything under control. And she that's pretty much
what because that was like in your marriage, there's always
Astley Land. I'm I'm learning to just become a part
of Ashley Lands. If I want to have a happy life,

(01:30:56):
I need to have a happy wife, which means buying
real estate in Ashley Land. Yeah, yeah, think you that, Eric.
It's interesting just trying to sell at times and buy
something else, instill in Rosin's Land, just new locations. It's
interesting that you guys talk about how when you guys
started having kids, more of your disagreements or differences came

(01:31:16):
to the forefront. Because Ashley and I even the little
things like interioring, you know, interior decorating or like you know,
scheduling things like that. I think a lot of it
is just kind of pushed to the side because it's
just the two of us. But I'm curious, when you know,
knock on wood, as long as everything is healthy, we
have kids, Um, if like those differences will start, like
you guys said, maybe becoming more of a priority because

(01:31:39):
it's how we raise our kids. Well, one thing even
you just said, which is very different for us, and
maybe it's good for you guys. Are you guys both
the same, Like when you talk about interior decorating. Are
you guys both good at keeping on a budget? Are
you both? We're both really the same money, So that's great.
Like we're like comfortably forgot, like we like live a
good life, but we just don't over spand so you're

(01:32:00):
that's how I am. Yeah, I'm comfortably frugal. Chap. She's
completely opposite, Chap. We just at our house. It was
like she said a budget and we went over every
step of the way because she says, I want it
for this price, but I want that and it just
you can't make that happen for that price. And the
house became the entire time I'm with Rosslyn here because UM,

(01:32:23):
when we talk about buying a house one day, I'm
always like, Oh, it's gonna be this, It's gonna be this.
And then he's like, well, we don't need that. I'm like,
why would we not get what we want? We need? Yeah,
we don't need We went to UM a couple of
months ago and it was at this massive house like
outrage is like a hotel. Like I was joking when

(01:32:45):
I said, you know what this is living? And he said,
would you live that in the house like this? And
I went absolutely talking like, you was ridiculous. This place
is stupid, and it was. It was absurd. It's like
a resort, but it was amazing. I'm wait, what do
you mean you want to live in the place like this?
This is incredible? Like dreamt in thirds and by three
of them in different locations, and he's like, you need

(01:33:06):
a walkie talking, Yeah, do what, I'll call you with
a love the East or whatever. No, but it was
it was a ridiculous body. Yeah. We yeah, I just
tend to like at least she said, you're ridiculous. That's
the important part. You admitted to it. I love how
honest you guys are with each other. Um. People always
say like newly for newlyweds, you know, I was like, oh,

(01:33:27):
the first year is the hardest, but I feel like
the first year is definitely gonna be one, probably the easiest.
But it's also the first year with kids, it's probably
the hardest, right, very possible. Yeah, it's tough for me.
Everything changes, everything changes, and also you're going through it.
You also see who handles. For example, it's much different

(01:33:48):
with the second kid, but with the first kid, I
would have meltdowns whenever she would get sick, like meltdown, Yeah,
freak out. WoT handle it. She'd be more calm, but
she'd freak out of the kids scraped her knee, and
I'm like, it's fine, let them fall, bumps and bruises,
no big deal, run into the cabinet, It's fine. You
need to do these things. So we were again opposite
even on that. You don't know how you're going to
handle those things when you're in these situations, and it

(01:34:10):
creates an anxiety and a stress that's built up when
you're trying to raise these two kids. Kid gets sick,
you gotta be there for each other because the kid's miserable,
and you feel like every second it's grave danger, you know,
And you realize, now we all went through all this
and we all are going to be okay. But it's
good to have those things in common. Yes, it helps us. Yeah, yeah,

(01:34:34):
but you just got married. You don't have kids. Well,
I mean, clock thing. You know, I'm already one. I'll
be already too in March. We have time enjoy, but
we want to before enjoy marriage then a little bit, right, Yeah,
that's what we want. That's how two years we've been together.
Two years, but we've been together for four years. We

(01:34:57):
were best friends for a few years before that, and
it was we very much relationship without touching very much.
So enjoy the touching a little longer before your kids,
because then you'll be without touching. You guys said everything.
I feel like I hear that all the time, where
everything changes when you have kids. What changes You're the
priorities in life just become all about these kids. Something traveling,

(01:35:19):
Like we love traveling and we used to go on
travel all the time the moment, let's just go somewhere.
Now when you have kids, it's not as easy, you know,
because you have a little human being next to you
and they star preschool on school and then you can
pull them out of school and they have their activities.
You know, it's not granted you can do it with
a baby. Should just staying on the way. He's like
our friends taking her baby all over the world all

(01:35:42):
the time, And I'm like, I get it. It's one kid, yeah,
and you're going to travel with at least one or
two nannies in that situation, this particular person does, it's problem.
I will grab my dogs and my kids and I
will travel the way. Problem you would bring like four
people to help. For sure, I go on vacation and
I want to go to the point I'll do it.
He's so concerned about everything that just the fact that

(01:36:05):
that there's a time difference and if the Dylan knaps
at one, what are we going to do? Is five
o'clock over there? When is it going to nap? Like
no that I don't like to throw him off on
a time change for a quick trip. These are the
kinds of things you will jump into when you guys
might be on the same I love you, don't you
know what I mean? You never know because I feel
like we need to have dinner with you guys. Even

(01:36:28):
when you said when you were talking about dreams, Rosalind, God,
you sound exactly like Ashley. She has a dream of
your dreams. Oh yeah, She's like, if your dreams are realistic,
they're not big enough. That's and it's like I get that,
it's just not that's not who I am in my
car and that's like a big fight of us. That's
one of our big things. Yeah. That was like our
second our first podcast, and everybody called me dream Poper

(01:36:49):
at that point that the thirteen years she's called me
a dreamp. You need that pop a little bit. She's like,
she's like, that would be nice, would be nice. I'm
sure that would be nice because it will happen, and
he like, well they He'll be like, no, I mean,
like the odds of it happening are very little. Let's
be realist. And it doesn't mean I'm not gone. Here's
the thing. It doesn't mean I'm not going to go
after my dreams. But I'm also gonna have a level

(01:37:11):
head about it going after it. But then she's like,
if you have that attitude, it's not gonna happen. I'm like,
I disagree. That doesn't mean I'm still not working towards it,
because then what happens is I don't know about you,
but I'll speak on her behalf is then something doesn't
go right in that dream process. Everybody's this and this
person did that, and this is book. I don't know

(01:37:31):
why doesn't work out for me? Because your dream is
too big. You never know what happens if you have
a level of reality. What about reality? When you dream big?
Maybe the dream doesn't happen, but the steps that you
take towards the dream and the plan something leads you
to the right direction. Here. Here's the thing I'd say.
In the world of entertainment, and I don't know if

(01:37:52):
you guys, dreams include if that's what it is, right.
If you have a dream of becoming a doctor, it's
a very realistic dream. If you stick to your plan,
you go to school, you ask your test, you'll be
a doctor. It's not that hard, like, if you do
everything right, you'll be a doctor. It is an easy
because it's a path that if you do everything and
you score, you'll get it. It's I don't want to
say you have you have. You have a very difficult

(01:38:13):
path to fulfill and live up to and score right
on all your tests. But there's there's a path that
if you do it all, you will get it. So
there's a dream you can accomplish with hard work. In entertainment.
You can set all the dreams you want in the world,
and most everything happening is in somebody else's hands. Now
it sucks, So being a dreamer can get you in
a lot of trouble in entertainment. I think it also

(01:38:35):
mee I alsost see. I agree with you though, because
I think in this industry it's to bring them this
in anxiety because I completely agree with you. We're a
lot of the decisions, Like like you said, uh, you know,
at jobs that I've had before where I'm working fifty
hours a week, it was like, you have a path,
and this is how you work up and make more money,
and this is where you're going. In the entertainment industry,

(01:38:57):
it's literally just like throwing stuff against the law and
being like I hope, I hope that I'm working hard
enough and people are seeing it enough where they'll do
something about it. But even if you go to the extreme,
and this is something again not an easy path, but
even professional sports not easy to be a pro athlete.
But if you have the physical gift and you work
hard every single day, you're gonna get a result that

(01:39:20):
people will quantify and say, Okay, that result will get
you a scholarship, will get you a contract. You could
be the best actor, host, whatever it is in the world,
and no one whatever give you a shot because it's
one person's opinion that has to say yes, you can't
control it. So I feel like, are we may be
similar because everything that I've pretty much dreamed, I've pretty
much accomplished too. Yeah, so that there there, it works

(01:39:42):
for me, works for you, So therefore I conclude it works.
It works. Got an amount of times if I had
I dream, but I get it done. It works. Everything
I've dreamed has come true. My family members tell him too,
there like anything actually wants Astley gets and he's like,

(01:40:03):
I got to hear this act otherwise, especially in the
entertainment world, is the only way, Eric. Otherwise, you know,
you have to visualize and you have to be so
certain that it is possible. And I've dreamed things that
happened and they've happened. But there are plenty of things
that I've dreamt to happen and have not happened. But
when we're talking very business, but we're talking about dreams

(01:40:24):
that are attainable and dreams that are when you're really
good at something, not like I dreamed. Took okay, next question,
final question UM. On my other podcast, I Don't Get
a podcast this week, I was talking about big personality
females with big personalities and guys being drawn to them.
I am determined, passionate, emotional expressive. I feel like you're

(01:40:46):
in the same way. You're beautiful, you have the profession,
the personality, the big personality. Was that something that was
intimidating to you at first? Eric? No, I actually were
you into girls like that? In the Girls Girls? Were
you into girls like that? Because I just noticed from
personal experience and watching The Bachelor, it seems like the

(01:41:10):
soft spoken demrror take a backseat type girl always gets
a head on the show. Really yeah, but in life,
I don't know. But we had had a McDonald on
and we're and she obviously has that huge personality, and
she was like, I do think it's harder for girls
with that type of personality to get guys. But like
a strong personality. Yeah, I remember when we first met,

(01:41:33):
there was a whole She was shocked first of all
that I was a white guy, and I went up
to her because that was blew her mind right away.
She's like, who's this guy? Why are you talking to
me more white guys? Don't you talking about you? I know,
but I was when when he came always saying no,
we just wanted to do myself. My name is Eric.
I looked back, going, there's no way these white She realized,
like I did Latino life my whole life, because in

(01:41:54):
the city I grew up, it was all it was
all Mexican predominantly one day. But I grew up with
a lot of Latina, so I was, as you know, Latina,
So she was shocked about that. But my point is
I never when I got to dating her, I realized
right away she was a strong personality just the first
time I met her. And we were friends like you
guys for almost a year before we ever started dating,
and I realized, it's a very strong, strong lady. But

(01:42:16):
I'm a solve, I'm a very type a personality as well.
So once we started dating, I remember having another conversation
being like, look, I get it, you're strong, I'm strong.
One of us has to give. Somebody's gonna have to
take a back seat at different points in time, or
this is never gonna work. And that was like early.
She wouldn't remember much in our relationship because she's been

(01:42:37):
and here we are talking about resolutions and compromise is
still at the forefront of what your new resolution needs
to be. So even then it was like, somebody has
to be She hates the word submissive. Somebody has to
submit at any point in time in a relationship. You
have to or you won't. If two people are constantly
the dominant. Where do you go compromising doing use so mission, take,

(01:43:03):
take a take a seat, take a step back. Somebody
has to take a step back in a position or
a decision. So are too strong? Personalities kind of came
to a head early in dating and it was like,
all right, this way, this way has to be if
we're gonna be together. And we've been able to make
that work. Amazing. Okay, after this, how are you guys
not gonna go listen to he said? He said it perfectly,

(01:43:26):
I know, and I'm just like, I'm gonna go listen
to this podcast immediately. Awesome. I love I love a
couples couples conversations. It's real, it's raw, and you guys
are very real. Then it's it's refreshing and refreshing. Obviously,
as you guys know, you see a lot of people
who are not themselves, and you guys are very much yourself.

(01:43:46):
Maybe that's why we've been together. The first episode we
did because we got into this like not knowing what
we're doing. Right, So we did the first episode and
we left and we were shaking because we felt like
we you revealed too much? So much we do that
too was freaking out. I was like, oh my god,
I what do you do? What do we do? Is

(01:44:07):
that we we're exposing and so many topics and we
had a blast, but we I got home and I
was sick to my stomach going was that okay, you know,
because it's really it's liberating therapy. But it's like therapy.
I've said many times, like it's actually a bit therapeutic.
We've been talking about ourselves a lot, and we laughed
the whole way through and we're laughing. That's a good thing.

(01:44:27):
So comedy has been great with it, like for us,
but it is it's very therapeutic. Easton was saying that
it's one of the podcasts that he loves sitting in
the most. Thank you, we have some good because east
and I are on the same page after ten round?
What happened? What are you talking about? All right? Thank
you guys so much. This has been a blast, all right.
Next up we have our final guests, Tony rad and

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am now lastly joined by I by I Heart Radio
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don't read anything you got this? This is funny. I
was just reading. I was reading you guys. I'm joined

(01:46:42):
by Becca of the Scrubbing of scrubbing In on I
Heart Radio. There you guys, you started the podcast you
know about TV predominantly about Gray's anatomy. So I have
to ask, what the is up with the departure of
Alex krev a k Alex Chambers. Is it on him?

(01:47:06):
Or is this a Shawn Rhymes move? I think his
name was justin. What did I say? You guys see
that I just did. I think I've done two straight
hours of interviews and even through nine interviews, so like,
I'm also letting loose with you guys because it's you,
so I don't have to be on my interview. I

(01:47:27):
want you to turn your card over, like, don't even care.
I know that's it's really funny. I'm just like, really,
I just I'm just really glad to have friends here
right now. So what the hell? I mean you what
like you did the whole benching of grades, like I
stopped season fifteen. I just couldn't do it anymore. Just

(01:47:48):
wasn't good anymore, you know what. I'm getting to that point. Yeah, okay, no,
we have to watch there's no storyline that we're talking
to now. They've taken away everything with Justin Chambers leaving,
you know, I mean, he was my favorite, He's my
He's probably my favorite characters at the entire series. So interesting,

(01:48:11):
and I definitely I loved him. I love him. I
don't you know what I'm mostly upset about, Like I
would have been upset no matter what, but the fact
that we've already seen his last episode, but we didn't
get to prepare for that being his last episode. That's
so messed up. It's unfair, it's so weird, and I
do we think that's on him though, like he got
there was some insaternal drama where he probably thought, like

(01:48:33):
this script is freaking horrible, this show is become trash. No,
I'm done. I don't think it's that because I feel
like he would have done that like a season ago,
to be honest, or maybe it was after that season
that he was like, you know, I just don't feel
like I'm growing and my character. This to me feels
like um Ashonda, Like it feels like something happened to
him personally and he needs to like step back for

(01:48:55):
a minute, maybe like the family thing, yeah, or just
like I don't know, I really don't know, but it
feels it feels too quick and sudden to be a
Shaunda thing, or he just wasn't into the script thing.
There's no way they would not do like a goodbye
episode if it wasn't something sudden and abrupt. Yeah, because
why all the sudden is it just like you've already

(01:49:16):
seen his episode he's gone because he was like I
can't anymore and throw his papers in the air. I
don't think so, I really don't. I don't know. I'm
just like sixteen, like I mean, fifteen and a half
seasons and then that he just disappears, like with no warning.
But then like, what are they going to do with
Joe and his storyline? You mean they're like a couple

(01:49:40):
of storiline. I don't know. I don't know if they
tell us that he passed away or if they're like,
he's gone to find Izzy. He's not going to be
passed away, right, didn't he? Like I didn't watch a
fan theory that like they could kill him off. I
thought it already aired. Guys, they're going to pretend like
while he had he Christina Yang would like call Merritath

(01:50:01):
and she left, like they could still fake calls from him,
and then like who knows. Sure, I guess they'll probably
do that. I hope, so they can't kill him off,
But he's not gonna Joe. Joe is going to move
on with someone else. Move on with someone else. Yeah,
they're married, That's what I'm saying. Maybe what happens if
you're married and then one of you dies, you're a widow? Yeah,

(01:50:28):
you're right there. I was like there was a term
for that. Oh my gosh, I guess who I met
last weekend? Yeah, that was my next great question? You
met Patrick Dempsey? How'd that go? Like the best moment
of my life? I wish I had, Like I wish
I had a GoPro in my head for a moment
back because I like blacked out. So I can't really

(01:50:49):
remember everything, but it was really just like magical. You're
with Chris Harrison and he was like guiding you through
this whole thing. He guided you through a journey. It
just wasn't the bachelor journey. It was your greatest It
was my grays journey. And he like alle me so
legit to where he was, like, she said a part
of an award winning podcast called Scrubbing In that's all
about Gray's natomy. I was either the award winning in

(01:51:12):
there was. I mean, do you wish he would have
ended it after award winning podcast and not thrown into
all that, Yeah, because then it would have made me
sound really cool and smart and not a groupie. Yeah,
because I went for sure. I went groupie, full groupy.
I was like, well, as a married woman now, like
I go full grouping now because I'm not like I
don't need to like woo my celebrity crush. I just

(01:51:34):
want to show appreciation. I think he's married. I was
like him, I was just trying to like get him
on the podcast maybe, but that was you know, did
you attempt? No? You kidding? I could barely get words
out and I was like, are you gonna like throw
the ball around. Wait, actually, so there's talks of Tanya
going on the Bachelor. There is there are talks. There's

(01:51:55):
talks she could. We all know that she could just
be thrown in at any time she wants. I mean,
it's already done filming, so we'd have to start filming
her season in September. What do you think about this?
I mean I feel like, how has it not happened yet?
She's the unhonorable member of Bachelor Nation? How do you guy?
You'd handle the production, the whole, the part of dating

(01:52:17):
other a man, that is, dating other women. I can't
do that in my real life. There's a lot of
things here. One, it would be cool to see you
as not just an honorary member, but like as an
official member of Bachelor Nation. But the thing is, I
think you'd have such a target on your back because
you're basically a celebrity. I mean, yeah, you were playing
in a celebrity softball game with Patrick Dempsey, Chard Harrison.

(01:52:39):
It's like you have a leg up I target on
your back. That's your friends with Chris Harrison was saying.
She was like, they're gonna hate you. I was like, yeah,
I don't care. I'm gonna win them over. But that's
not the point. The point for me is like I
can't date someone and even think he's eating other people.
I think, if I honestly, I'm putting myself in the situation.

(01:52:59):
I think if I saw it all happening and I
saw him kissing other girls, like I would literally be
crying every day like that with the Bachelor's But I'm
to like prepare mentally knowing that you're going to go
on and that I'm mentally get me there. I'm like,
I do like this happening, and I think it's like
beck is the commis person around if only she can

(01:53:23):
give you a little bit of herself. I've been asking
for this for years. I'm like, if I could just
be a little bit as chill as she is my
dating life, I feel like I probably would be married
by now. So I was just talking to Rosalind Sanchez
about like girls with big personalities and how guys take
to them, and how I feel like a big passionate

(01:53:43):
personality is always so much less likely to be approached
by a guy, which I think is super sad, but
I think it's true, don't you, Yes, Why is that
approached by a guy, but I like to stick around,
to stick around for sure, because I think, like I
just also I'm in a place where like I know
what i want very much, so I'm not shy about

(01:54:05):
voicing that. Yeah, but like expressive, like more outspoken for sure,
girls that like speak with confidence. I feel like I'm
the bachelor and I'm saying the exact same thing I
said in the previous interview. But I'm the bachelor. It
feels like the girls who just are like a little
bit like they bat their eyes and they speak so
sweet and soft. They're the ones that are always like

(01:54:27):
the front runners. I think there's an element of mystery
that draws and see its mystery to a woman, just
like there's like that like stereotype of because like there's
a stereotype of a man being like the hunter or whatever.
So like for someone who's mysterious and I'll back, he's
like I gotta pursue that, because I gotta pursue that

(01:54:49):
to get to know her. Otherwise I'm not gonna like
if you put it all out there. That's a specific
man who's like I want a confident girl who's going
to go into a room and like shine, you know
if he's like, wait, I get this, now, you just
got I think you figured it out. They just like
the mystery and girls like me and Tanya and and Beckett,
you're just like all around and you just got it,

(01:55:12):
you know. But she like appeals to everyone. Yeah, there's
like she's like very real. It's like she's outspoken, yet
does it in a gentle way. I don't like to
do it. Like I could pretend, like, you know, to
be like this cool, calm and like mystery girl, but
that's not me. So it's like the guy's going to
know within a month, like that's not me. You know
I can yeah, So it's like I just I can't.

(01:55:32):
I can't fake it. Yeah, And I'm telling you, like
just like I always say, Tanya has gotta find her Jared,
because like Jared like celebrates that part about you, you know,
like he loves it, and Tanya's guys gonna celebrate that
about her. He wasn't like at first though. That's what
held him back because he was like, oh my god,
I never imagined a girl like this, true, but that's

(01:55:52):
what took him. So it's longer to come around. That's
what I'm saying you never know, but we're not banking
on that time and I don't have to. Maybe you
should just h yeah, maybe you should um woo them
with friendship first, because I do feel like with girls
like us, perhaps friendship first would be great because then
they're like, oh wait, busy girls are really awesome, Like

(01:56:13):
I know that's something I'm bad at, Like I can't.
I just have too many friends and I don't want
a guy, you know, like if I if my tongue
has been in your mouth, Like noah, you can't backtrack. Yeah,
we talk a lot about Tommy's tongue being in someone's mouth,
and my tongue has been in or around your mouth,
like you're not only my friend. Yeah, my friend Lizzie
always talks about that tongue and a tongue in a
guy's mouth. And I'm like, I don't really like tongue

(01:56:35):
that much, so that you don't know, I don't really know.
I really don't um, but my friend Lizzie is single,
nows so maybe you guys out yeah you know, wow,
words words spreads quick. She was because I like post
a lot of quotes and stuff, and she was saying,
how they like help her, and I was like, oh,

(01:56:55):
that's so sweet, y'all. Are both you and Lizzie are
going to find I forgot that you us can both
like go on the prowl together. Now there's no problem,
but I go on it doesn't want to go on
a prowl either. God, Okay, this is definitely an off
podcast conversation. We're talking about somebody who's not a podcast host,
not even a public figure. All right, y'all, thank you

(01:57:15):
for sticking with me for all these hours. I would
like to thank all our guests that stop by and
thank you too, Fine and Funky for dressing our presenters tonight.
We love Finding Funky. Whenever we are in the Reno,
Tahoe area, I always stop by there to get some
really adorable outfits. You can check them out online at

(01:57:36):
shop finding Funky dot com. And speaking of Tahoe, we
will be there. Jared, Me, Dean, Kaylin, Ben and Jess
will all be there the weekend of February and Jared
and I will be making a special guest appearance at
Ben's Bachelor Live in Reno, So we hope to see
you guys there. Thank you for joining me on this

(01:57:59):
podcast episode. This very very special episode. We've missed Ben
this week and we will get to see him on Monday. Bye, guys,
it's been Ashley. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost
Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you
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