June 11, 2024 • 18 mins
Ben and Ashley are together IN PERSON and breaking down this week’s Bachelor headlines!
Is Gerry hanging out with the Kardashians?? We get all the facts and figure out why The Golden Bachelor is connected to the first family of reality TV.
John Henry and Rachel Nance might be a new couple in Bachelor Nation, and Ben weighs in on Rachel Lindsay and Bryan Abasolo with a take that might get some heat!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey guys, welcome to the Almost In his podcast today,
I'm joined by Ben Higgins in my dad's office.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
He's he's in DC.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
For work, and I am here at Doctor's pointment. You know,
I'm here once a month, and we're so excited because
today Ben gets to like he.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Gets to come over to my childhood home hang out.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're going to go to dinner after this, but first
we have to of course go over headlines.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
This is a really fun place to visit.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
I've seen this office on video manytime, but never been
It is a beautiful spot out here.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah, I'm here for Project Hope.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
I haven't talked about Project Hope lot, but if you
don't know about Project Hope, check it out. It's one
of the leading healthcare and disastery leaf organizations in the
country right now. And I've gotten to be on the
board now for going on three and a half years,
and so I'm out here for board meetings. Stopped over
to have dinner with this incredible family and also talk
(01:04):
bachelor headlines and here they are. Gary Turner appears on
The k Kardashians find out what happened when he met
the famous family. Okay, I actually before we start here,
I saw some clips this week. Yeah, these are absolutely wild.
I'm talking about the clips of Chris Jenner talking about
Gary It. I don't feel like it's a good look
(01:26):
for him. But break down this and then I'll tell
you why I feel that way.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Okay, that's very interesting. So I knew like that this
was such a It's such cross promotion for Hulu because ABC, Disney,
Hulu they're all tied together. And for the past couple
of seasons of the Kardashians they have been They've been
always dropping the bachelor name. There's always like, oh this episode,
(01:50):
are you gonna be the Bachelorette?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Or Rob Mills that or you know, blah.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Blah blah, time out, time out? Is it because Chris
has always been a fan, as you know, because she
was on your apt show.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
My question is who needs who more? The Bachelor needs
the Kardashians or the Kardashians need the Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, I don't know Hulu ratings. I wonder who does.
It's probably pretty mutually beneficial, okay, and it's probably a
lot of the same crossover audience. Well, Anyway, I knew
from the beginning of this season that this is going
to be this silly kind of bit where Gary comes up.
This is I'm truly truly jealous about this. Gary went
(02:28):
over to Chris's house or was Kendall's house or one
of their houses to have a watch party with them. Like, Gary,
that is big for him, I think, so huge. Could
you imagine, like you don't even care about the Kardashian
you like going over to one of their houses.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I hosted a show with Chris, you hosted a show
with it and after show.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, but that's like her coming to the studio is
different than you walking into a Kardashian home.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, fair enough, Okay, Well, so what happens?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, okay, So the big teaser on this season that
the Kardashians I actually haven't watched this past episode I've
watched one and two, is that he comes over for
the watch party and Kendall sees on his phone Teresa's
name or a picture of her come up. I think
it was her name and his contacts. And she even
says she's like, what I saw it? You know, I've
(03:24):
not to just see this, And so Chris and Kendall.
He admitted to them, but they had to keep it
secret for of course the entirety.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Okay, so do you love the Kardashians as much as
you used to?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's such an interesting question because my sister, my best friend,
and I were talking about that exact question two days ago.
I do, but they are feeling like they're over them.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Here's my point to when I started this whole conversation
with Gary about Gary was there's a clip where Chris
Jenner is talking about how Gary was eyeing her like.
There's a clip that was shown where she says, Gary
stopped looking at that meat that way. I'm marry Gary.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But she's not married, but she has been for ten years.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
So I don't think it's a good look for Gary
because that's kind of been the.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh my gosh, I really wish I had watched this
episode before chatting about this.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Anyways, so there's a lot to this. There's the fact
that she saw Theresa, there's the blirtiness, blirtiness, and then
there's this. So Chris and Kendall ask him hard questions.
They go, Okay, Gary, what happened in the fantasy suites?
And he got very candid, saying that I'm happy with
the overnights because if you spend five weeks getting to
(04:42):
know women, yet everything you say and do is recorded,
you're dying to get that overnight where you can ask
them questions without an audience. And then Chris and Kendall
also asked Gary to share what he learned about himself
while filming the show, and he said, I get emotional
so easily.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Every roast ceremony was difficult, awful. I was lost, so yeah.
And then they're like, you're just so smart, You're such
an emotionally intelligent guy. And he's like, I'm not that smart.
I'm just old. And they had dinner.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It was like crazy, well, okay to before we move
on to the next story.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I was always told that there was something that.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Happened in the Fantasy Suites that changed Gary's mind. That
was always kind of the behind the scenes story that
was being told to me. I don't know what that was,
and they never really showed it, but something happened in
the Fantasy Suites for Gary that changed his mind.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And den is not going to start rumors now.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I'll start all the rumors I've never gotten Beta Brush,
are you kidding me.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
This listens on this podcast went way up. I'll start
any rumor.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Needed, but referring to that rumor that he that he
heard that Gary and Teresa's problems started when she landed
in in ye, you.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Didn't even know the name of my home states.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Like Indiana. I'm a out.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
No, I'll just when I start a roomer, I'll just
preface it with this is a rumor, and then I'll
tell it all right, anyways, this is not a rumor.
Caitlin Bristow and Zach Clark recently spotted at wedding together,
this according to US Weekly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Are they still okay? So well actually okay.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So I'm obviously not going to like text Caitlin and
be like, well, I could just be like, so, like,
how's it going.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
With that rumored guy that you've been seeing?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, but then you couldn't share it here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I would never share it here, right, But now we
have a little confirmation that we could talk about publicly
that we can share here.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
They've been spotted at a wedding.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It was not this past weekend last weekend, and they
haven't really been seen out and about since. Like, there
is the New Year's Eve party, and then there was
them also over the winter at a New York City restaurant.
That's some girls they like snapped photos of and put
it on TikTok. But that's that's all we really have here.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Here's my here's my take on this to then transition in.
At this point, we have to assume that Zach Clark
and Caitlin Bristow are hanging out, like, I don't know
this personally. I've not been confirmed this personally. I will
say that I don't know this personally. She's never told
me that. But they have yet to hard launch soft law,
I mean soft launch each other.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, didn't Kaitlyn say in our podcast She's like, I'm
never going to launch anyone unless, like I know, I'm
about to get married to them like tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, fair enough, good quote.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But we can assume here and say here, I will
put my name behind it, and Kitln Bristow can text
me again. Caitlin Bristow and Zach Clark are having some
type of either relationship or friendship or situationship.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
They've been together too.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Many times in the last few months for them not
to be considered something. Of course, lace Morris opens up
about co parenting. Her quote is it's not fun, and
(08:15):
reveals that she's ready to date again. Now, Ashley, we
interviewed Lace. If you haven't listened to the episode, I
do think it's important to listen to because I do
think we get some nuggets in that interview with her
that lead to this conversation today.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh yeah, totally so.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
She did a Q and A on Instagram, which is
basically a short form of the interview we did with her.
But she just confirms that it hasn't been great, you know,
not having a child with somebody that she's no longer with.
She said that she's doing very well physically and mentally now,
(08:53):
although of course as a new mom.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Some days are rough.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
She said that she is not thinking about dating because Liam,
her son, wouldn't want her to, and.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
She also because he knows.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, but yeah, she just she's just like ready to
move on. I think from the fact that like obviously
she's she's got more of a clean cut from the dad.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
However, the dad is in his life.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's not like he has abandoned the fan of the family,
just he's in the baby's life minimally, like.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You might see him like once a week. She's obviously
the primary, primary caregiver.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
He feels importan at this point, it feels like something
that's that's obvious. Bachelor Nation's Rachel Lindsay regrets not getting
prenup agreement before marrying Season thirteen winner Brian absolutely a
mid messy divorce. Now Ashley again. I'll have a little
nugget here, Okay. I follow them both. Brian silent for years. Yeah,
(10:01):
he is all over Instagram? Now, oh really is post
amount has gone way?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think I follow him?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well, well, now I got a check. That's why are
you he is? He is out there doing his thing.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Let me see this, I think he Oh, I don't
follow him.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
That's why doctor abs em downe there you know trademark
that that name?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Okay, okay, so interesting. All right.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So Natasha Parker has a new podcasts and she had
Rachel on and when talking about the ongoing divorce, which
she was pretty open about, Rachel says that a lot
of people are like, you're a lawyer, do you do
you have a pre nup? And she's like, I don't.
And then she goes on to explain the thought process
(10:52):
for her inaction and says that the reason that she
didn't that she didn't is because the place I'm in
now financially is totally different than when we got married.
We were more leveled then we weren't in California. That's
actually a really good point. She didn't really she didn't
really know the career opportunities that were like gonna come
(11:14):
at her very soon after the wedding.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Well, I mean, I think one of the big things too,
is I mean that's probably when why you get a prenup.
But with my with my wife and I, we would
never have gotten a prenup.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It would have been a really hard conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I think, I think there's avenues to do it that
makes sense. But for Jess and I, like we started
this thing out and we're like, divorce is never an option,
but I know that in some relationships, like even when
it's not an option, it comes about.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, as she said, she goes, I didn't want it
to be a bigger issue, so we didn't have one
because she was like, at the time it wasn't an issue,
so she didn't want to like project an issue. But
then again, says hindsight is twenty twenty that in the
case that I knew what was going to come, of
course would have done it.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I just don't think we can shame her for not
getting a prenup because like, how would you have that conversation?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Like, I don't think we can be like, oh, you
should have gotten one. How do you not have one?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
It's like, no, like that you never expect this to
be the case, And how in the world do you
ever bring it up? And then why do you even
think about it? If you're like I and this could
be and I would love to get so much hate
for this. But if you're entering into a marriage and
one of the first thoughts in your mind is unless
(12:31):
you're like a billion.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I know, unless you're like a Justin Bieber.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Exactly those cases, like one hundred percent. I get it.
I get you you have to protect yourself.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
But if you're like, we need to get a prenup,
I feel like you're you are projecting.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I don't know how you do.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I guess like entering it in yeah, like it's not
a you equal partnership.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
If somebody could hate on me a little bit and
tell me how they do it and why they do
it outside of.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
A family trust or a large sum of money.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Please let me know, because I've always been confused on
how in the world you'd go about this thought process,
and like, I don't have to worry about it. I
still see here today. I'm like, that's not a thing
that's going to go on in my life. However, I
do know for some people it is an unexpected change
of course, and a prenup would have been really nice.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I know, you know you talk to divorce lawyers, they
will always be like.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No, no, it's the most wonderful thing.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But it's just it's very You've talked to a lot
of divorce lawyers.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No, I'm thinking about this one time that I thought
I had this.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I didn't even know the woman that was on the
podcast with us.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It was I don't get a podcast and did was
the topic may have just been prenups and our producer
was like, yeah, I'll get you a really great like
female lawyer for this lo and behold didn't know it
was Kim Kardashian's like lawyer, and she used her for
her divorce with Kanye like she's that big of a
(13:56):
deal and she's like literally could put prenup on like
her life in split. She loves them so much.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Oh goodness. Yeah, okay, well that's enough of that.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Hey, but Natasha Parker shout out to her starting a
new podcast, great friend of this show and really cool
part of Bachelor Nation. I got to hang out with
her at the Nick Natalie wedding and.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It was Yes, she's so great and we really have
to check in on her eye.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
She got shot in the eye with aim with an
air blower, which she must be fine.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, she's obviously fine.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
All right, big headline here, This is a big.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Headline and how man we happy to get this person
on the podcast?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Rachel Nance and John Henry Spurlock spark dating rumors and
Bachelor Nation reacts in a loud way.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
This made me me seeing these pictures.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It made me like, oh, this.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is why Paradise needed to happen, because now this is
happening off camera. So Rachel, as we know from Joey season,
and John Henry, who is just on our podcast, talk
about his breakup with Cat we were they're both spotted
together and on what appears to be a date night,
looked like it was just the two of them. Rachel
(15:10):
took to instit TikTok to share a video with John
Henry as they enjoyed what they this what may have
been a romantic dinner on the water in her home
state of Hawaii. In the video, Rachel lip syncs over
a voiceover, you know, like a TikTok voiceover, and says
how much do I owe you? To which John responds
(15:32):
it's okay, it's on the house, and Rachel ends with
really and she captured the video. My wallet was not
harmed in the making of this video. So they're definitely
alluding to it being a date because he like picked
up the tab soon the video soon, I know, right
soon The video went viral, raking.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
In millions and millions of views.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Fans really excited daisies, commenting yo with hearts, So is
this a hard Fans are like, is this a hard launch?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We are still here for this.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We don't know, but we do know something that I
do think that we can say now, yea, he was
going to.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Go and work in Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think I think he announced it.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, he announced that he's working in Hawaii, and so
this makes sense.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
She lives there, well.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
She lived in Maine, remember, but her family's from Hawaii,
like that's her home base. You know, she's like a
nurse that she's travel I don't think she's a traveling nurse.
But she had moved her work and she was living
in Maine, which I was like, Rachel, that seems random.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You should move back to Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You cannot get farther from.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Each other with un I'm thinking, you know, she was
home or whatever, and maybe you know, Hawaii's like got
so many islands like that, I think that they probably
had to take some effort to see each other.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
I'm going to say it here, John Henry and Rachel
nance you're on watch. We're looking for a good, solid,
hard launch that's not so freaking mysterious. But I'll say here,
I'm on team Rachel and John Henry.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Oh yeah, I like to see it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, but now we need to get Rachel on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It's about time. I don't think she's really done too
much of a circuit a press tour.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Okay, almost famous producers, get Rachel on the show. Hey,
that's all the headlines we have for you today. We're
excited about what's coming up within Bachelor Nation. Obviously, we
have a really exciting season with Gen season coming out.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
We're seeing more and more kind of teasers to it.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
If you haven't listened to our episode kind of breaking
down the men in the most.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Respectful, carrying, considerate, knowledgeable.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Ways, you should go back and listen to that. It's
really worth it. You should listen to that. And then
obviously we'll have more Almost Famous podcasts coming out with
almost good advice the headlines and some more interviews, hopefully
Rachel coming out soon. So until next time, I've Been Ben,
I've Been Ashley THEA.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey guys, welcome to the Almost In his podcast today,
I'm joined by Ben Higgins in my dad's office.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
He's he's in DC.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
For work, and I am here at Doctor's pointment. You know,
I'm here once a month, and we're so excited because
today Ben gets to like he.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Gets to come over to my childhood home hang out.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're going to go to dinner after this, but first
we have to of course go over headlines.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
This is a really fun place to visit.
Speaker 5 (00:33):
I've seen this office on video manytime, but never been
It is a beautiful spot out here.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah, I'm here for Project Hope.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
I haven't talked about Project Hope lot, but if you
don't know about Project Hope, check it out. It's one
of the leading healthcare and disastery leaf organizations in the
country right now. And I've gotten to be on the
board now for going on three and a half years,
and so I'm out here for board meetings. Stopped over
to have dinner with this incredible family and also talk
(01:04):
bachelor headlines and here they are. Gary Turner appears on
The k Kardashians find out what happened when he met
the famous family. Okay, I actually before we start here,
I saw some clips this week. Yeah, these are absolutely wild.
I'm talking about the clips of Chris Jenner talking about
Gary It. I don't feel like it's a good look
(01:26):
for him. But break down this and then I'll tell
you why I feel that way.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Okay, that's very interesting. So I knew like that this
was such a It's such cross promotion for Hulu because ABC, Disney,
Hulu they're all tied together. And for the past couple
of seasons of the Kardashians they have been They've been
always dropping the bachelor name. There's always like, oh this episode,
(01:50):
are you gonna be the Bachelorette?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Or Rob Mills that or you know, blah.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Blah blah, time out, time out? Is it because Chris
has always been a fan, as you know, because she
was on your apt show.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
My question is who needs who more? The Bachelor needs
the Kardashians or the Kardashians need the Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
You know, I don't know Hulu ratings. I wonder who does.
It's probably pretty mutually beneficial, okay, and it's probably a
lot of the same crossover audience. Well, Anyway, I knew
from the beginning of this season that this is going
to be this silly kind of bit where Gary comes up.
This is I'm truly truly jealous about this. Gary went
(02:28):
over to Chris's house or was Kendall's house or one
of their houses to have a watch party with them. Like, Gary,
that is big for him, I think, so huge. Could
you imagine, like you don't even care about the Kardashian
you like going over to one of their houses.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
I hosted a show with Chris, you hosted a show
with it and after show.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, but that's like her coming to the studio is
different than you walking into a Kardashian home.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, fair enough, Okay, Well, so what happens?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, okay, So the big teaser on this season that
the Kardashians I actually haven't watched this past episode I've
watched one and two, is that he comes over for
the watch party and Kendall sees on his phone Teresa's
name or a picture of her come up. I think
it was her name and his contacts. And she even
says she's like, what I saw it? You know, I've
(03:24):
not to just see this, And so Chris and Kendall.
He admitted to them, but they had to keep it
secret for of course the entirety.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Okay, so do you love the Kardashians as much as
you used to?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's such an interesting question because my sister, my best friend,
and I were talking about that exact question two days ago.
I do, but they are feeling like they're over them.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Here's my point to when I started this whole conversation
with Gary about Gary was there's a clip where Chris
Jenner is talking about how Gary was eyeing her like.
There's a clip that was shown where she says, Gary
stopped looking at that meat that way. I'm marry Gary.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
But she's not married, but she has been for ten years.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
So I don't think it's a good look for Gary
because that's kind of been the.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh my gosh, I really wish I had watched this
episode before chatting about this.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Anyways, so there's a lot to this. There's the fact
that she saw Theresa, there's the blirtiness, blirtiness, and then
there's this. So Chris and Kendall ask him hard questions.
They go, Okay, Gary, what happened in the fantasy suites?
And he got very candid, saying that I'm happy with
the overnights because if you spend five weeks getting to
(04:42):
know women, yet everything you say and do is recorded,
you're dying to get that overnight where you can ask
them questions without an audience. And then Chris and Kendall
also asked Gary to share what he learned about himself
while filming the show, and he said, I get emotional
so easily.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Every roast ceremony was difficult, awful. I was lost, so yeah.
And then they're like, you're just so smart, You're such
an emotionally intelligent guy. And he's like, I'm not that smart.
I'm just old. And they had dinner.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
It was like crazy, well, okay to before we move
on to the next story.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I was always told that there was something that.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Happened in the Fantasy Suites that changed Gary's mind. That
was always kind of the behind the scenes story that
was being told to me. I don't know what that was,
and they never really showed it, but something happened in
the Fantasy Suites for Gary that changed his mind.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
And den is not going to start rumors now.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
I'll start all the rumors I've never gotten Beta Brush,
are you kidding me.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
This listens on this podcast went way up. I'll start
any rumor.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Needed, but referring to that rumor that he that he
heard that Gary and Teresa's problems started when she landed
in in ye, you.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Didn't even know the name of my home states.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Like Indiana. I'm a out.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
No, I'll just when I start a roomer, I'll just
preface it with this is a rumor, and then I'll
tell it all right, anyways, this is not a rumor.
Caitlin Bristow and Zach Clark recently spotted at wedding together,
this according to US Weekly.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Are they still okay? So well actually okay.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So I'm obviously not going to like text Caitlin and
be like, well, I could just be like, so, like,
how's it going.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
With that rumored guy that you've been seeing?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, but then you couldn't share it here.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I would never share it here, right, But now we
have a little confirmation that we could talk about publicly
that we can share here.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
They've been spotted at a wedding.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It was not this past weekend last weekend, and they
haven't really been seen out and about since. Like, there
is the New Year's Eve party, and then there was
them also over the winter at a New York City restaurant.
That's some girls they like snapped photos of and put
it on TikTok. But that's that's all we really have here.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Here's my here's my take on this to then transition in.
At this point, we have to assume that Zach Clark
and Caitlin Bristow are hanging out, like, I don't know
this personally. I've not been confirmed this personally. I will
say that I don't know this personally. She's never told
me that. But they have yet to hard launch soft law,
I mean soft launch each other.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, didn't Kaitlyn say in our podcast She's like, I'm
never going to launch anyone unless, like I know, I'm
about to get married to them like tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, fair enough, good quote.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
But we can assume here and say here, I will
put my name behind it, and Kitln Bristow can text
me again. Caitlin Bristow and Zach Clark are having some
type of either relationship or friendship or situationship.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
They've been together too.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Many times in the last few months for them not
to be considered something. Of course, lace Morris opens up
about co parenting. Her quote is it's not fun, and
(08:15):
reveals that she's ready to date again. Now, Ashley, we
interviewed Lace. If you haven't listened to the episode, I
do think it's important to listen to because I do
think we get some nuggets in that interview with her
that lead to this conversation today.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Oh yeah, totally so.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
She did a Q and A on Instagram, which is
basically a short form of the interview we did with her.
But she just confirms that it hasn't been great, you know,
not having a child with somebody that she's no longer with.
She said that she's doing very well physically and mentally now,
(08:53):
although of course as a new mom.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Some days are rough.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
She said that she is not thinking about dating because Liam,
her son, wouldn't want her to, and.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
She also because he knows.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, but yeah, she just she's just like ready to
move on. I think from the fact that like obviously
she's she's got more of a clean cut from the dad.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
However, the dad is in his life.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's not like he has abandoned the fan of the family,
just he's in the baby's life minimally, like.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
You might see him like once a week. She's obviously
the primary, primary caregiver.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
He feels importan at this point, it feels like something
that's that's obvious. Bachelor Nation's Rachel Lindsay regrets not getting
prenup agreement before marrying Season thirteen winner Brian absolutely a
mid messy divorce. Now Ashley again. I'll have a little
nugget here, Okay. I follow them both. Brian silent for years. Yeah,
(10:01):
he is all over Instagram? Now, oh really is post
amount has gone way?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think I follow him?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well, well, now I got a check. That's why are
you he is? He is out there doing his thing.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Let me see this, I think he Oh, I don't
follow him.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
That's why doctor abs em downe there you know trademark
that that name?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Okay, okay, so interesting. All right.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So Natasha Parker has a new podcasts and she had
Rachel on and when talking about the ongoing divorce, which
she was pretty open about, Rachel says that a lot
of people are like, you're a lawyer, do you do
you have a pre nup? And she's like, I don't.
And then she goes on to explain the thought process
(10:52):
for her inaction and says that the reason that she
didn't that she didn't is because the place I'm in
now financially is totally different than when we got married.
We were more leveled then we weren't in California. That's
actually a really good point. She didn't really she didn't
really know the career opportunities that were like gonna come
(11:14):
at her very soon after the wedding.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Well, I mean, I think one of the big things too,
is I mean that's probably when why you get a prenup.
But with my with my wife and I, we would
never have gotten a prenup.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It would have been a really hard conversation.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I think, I think there's avenues to do it that
makes sense. But for Jess and I, like we started
this thing out and we're like, divorce is never an option,
but I know that in some relationships, like even when
it's not an option, it comes about.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, as she said, she goes, I didn't want it
to be a bigger issue, so we didn't have one
because she was like, at the time it wasn't an issue,
so she didn't want to like project an issue. But
then again, says hindsight is twenty twenty that in the
case that I knew what was going to come, of
course would have done it.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
I just don't think we can shame her for not
getting a prenup because like, how would you have that conversation?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Like, I don't think we can be like, oh, you
should have gotten one. How do you not have one?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
It's like, no, like that you never expect this to
be the case, And how in the world do you
ever bring it up? And then why do you even
think about it? If you're like I and this could
be and I would love to get so much hate
for this. But if you're entering into a marriage and
one of the first thoughts in your mind is unless
(12:31):
you're like a billion.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I know, unless you're like a Justin Bieber.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Exactly those cases, like one hundred percent. I get it.
I get you you have to protect yourself.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
But if you're like, we need to get a prenup,
I feel like you're you are projecting.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I totally agree.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I don't know how you do.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I guess like entering it in yeah, like it's not
a you equal partnership.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
If somebody could hate on me a little bit and
tell me how they do it and why they do
it outside of.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
A family trust or a large sum of money.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Please let me know, because I've always been confused on
how in the world you'd go about this thought process,
and like, I don't have to worry about it. I
still see here today. I'm like, that's not a thing
that's going to go on in my life. However, I
do know for some people it is an unexpected change
of course, and a prenup would have been really nice.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I know, you know you talk to divorce lawyers, they
will always be like.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No, no, it's the most wonderful thing.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
But it's just it's very You've talked to a lot
of divorce lawyers.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No, I'm thinking about this one time that I thought
I had this.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I didn't even know the woman that was on the
podcast with us.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It was I don't get a podcast and did was
the topic may have just been prenups and our producer
was like, yeah, I'll get you a really great like
female lawyer for this lo and behold didn't know it
was Kim Kardashian's like lawyer, and she used her for
her divorce with Kanye like she's that big of a
(13:56):
deal and she's like literally could put prenup on like
her life in split. She loves them so much.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Oh goodness. Yeah, okay, well that's enough of that.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Hey, but Natasha Parker shout out to her starting a
new podcast, great friend of this show and really cool
part of Bachelor Nation. I got to hang out with
her at the Nick Natalie wedding and.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
It was Yes, she's so great and we really have
to check in on her eye.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
She got shot in the eye with aim with an
air blower, which she must be fine.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, she's obviously fine.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
All right, big headline here, This is a big.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Headline and how man we happy to get this person
on the podcast?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Rachel Nance and John Henry Spurlock spark dating rumors and
Bachelor Nation reacts in a loud way.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
This made me me seeing these pictures.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It made me like, oh, this.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Is why Paradise needed to happen, because now this is
happening off camera. So Rachel, as we know from Joey season,
and John Henry, who is just on our podcast, talk
about his breakup with Cat we were they're both spotted
together and on what appears to be a date night,
looked like it was just the two of them. Rachel
(15:10):
took to instit TikTok to share a video with John
Henry as they enjoyed what they this what may have
been a romantic dinner on the water in her home
state of Hawaii. In the video, Rachel lip syncs over
a voiceover, you know, like a TikTok voiceover, and says
how much do I owe you? To which John responds
(15:32):
it's okay, it's on the house, and Rachel ends with
really and she captured the video. My wallet was not
harmed in the making of this video. So they're definitely
alluding to it being a date because he like picked
up the tab soon the video soon, I know, right
soon The video went viral, raking.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
In millions and millions of views.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Fans really excited daisies, commenting yo with hearts, So is
this a hard Fans are like, is this a hard launch?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
We are still here for this.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
We don't know, but we do know something that I
do think that we can say now, yea, he was
going to.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Go and work in Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think I think he announced it.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, he announced that he's working in Hawaii, and so
this makes sense.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
She lives there, well.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
She lived in Maine, remember, but her family's from Hawaii,
like that's her home base. You know, she's like a
nurse that she's travel I don't think she's a traveling nurse.
But she had moved her work and she was living
in Maine, which I was like, Rachel, that seems random.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You should move back to Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You cannot get farther from.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Each other with un I'm thinking, you know, she was
home or whatever, and maybe you know, Hawaii's like got
so many islands like that, I think that they probably
had to take some effort to see each other.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
I'm going to say it here, John Henry and Rachel
nance you're on watch. We're looking for a good, solid,
hard launch that's not so freaking mysterious. But I'll say here,
I'm on team Rachel and John Henry.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Oh yeah, I like to see it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, but now we need to get Rachel on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
It's about time. I don't think she's really done too
much of a circuit a press tour.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Okay, almost famous producers, get Rachel on the show. Hey,
that's all the headlines we have for you today. We're
excited about what's coming up within Bachelor Nation. Obviously, we
have a really exciting season with Gen season coming out.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
We're seeing more and more kind of teasers to it.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
If you haven't listened to our episode kind of breaking
down the men in the most.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Respectful, carrying, considerate, knowledgeable.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Ways, you should go back and listen to that. It's
really worth it. You should listen to that. And then
obviously we'll have more Almost Famous podcasts coming out with
almost good advice the headlines and some more interviews, hopefully
Rachel coming out soon. So until next time, I've Been Ben,
I've Been Ashley THEA.
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