August 23, 2023 • 26 mins
Ben and Ashley are checking in with Arie and Lauren Luyendyk for an update on one of Bachelor Nation's biggest success stories!
Their romance sounds like a fairy tale... but they might sleep in separate beds! Ben and Ashley find out the truth...
We hear all about their vow renewal in Aruba, and tears were shed... but who did the crying??
Plus, Arie shares his experience on Maui helping with recovery efforts after the devastating wildfires.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's time for a very special episode of the Almost
Famous Podcast. Of course, we promised you that in the
off season we are going to be interviewing and bringing
back guests who Bachelor Nation loves, and these two people
are definitely in that category. Ari and Lauren, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thank thank you so much us.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Hello all. Okay, so you guys have just returned home
from what our just told us was a month of
traveling with three kids under the age of five, and
holy crap, where did you go and how did you
do it?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
We started in Michigan because my family we went there
during the summer is when I was growing up and
we just wanted to go visit family there.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
So we're there for a week.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
And then Netherlands.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, then we went to Holland to go see my family.
My grandma's their great grandma. She's ninety one, so amazing.
She hasn't met the twins yet, so that was really fun,
and we were there for a little It was a
little long because it rained every day. What was it
like two weeks almost yep. Yeah, And then we we
arrived early, so The next stop was a Aruba, which
(01:13):
is really cool. And yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Decided to leave the Netherlands early because it just wouldn't
stop rating and there was nothing to do with three
kids in the rain after we'd exhausted all this, right,
the family visits, so we went to Ruba early and
stayed there for a week, a little over a week,
but it was beautiful.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What are your tips to traveling with children, especially in
like long term stays, like two weeks in the Netherlands
is hard, Like where did you stay?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
We booked an airbnb. I think like that's the easiest
thing for us because we've got three kids now, and
we planned to have the twins in one room in
a Lessian one room, and then obviously us in our own.
But they liked sharing rooms there in a new place.
They just felt more comfortable altogether, so they We could
have probably stayed in a hotel anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But well, I think it's clutch because you can cook,
you have kind of like a home base. It just
feels like a little bit more. I don't know, the
transition I think is easier. The hotel gets a little
tiring because like you are just eating out every meal,
so it's good, I think to have a air bandy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The Midwest has a special place in my heart. Michigan
is a place obviously I went to from Indiana a
lot during the summer. We have a lot of friends
up there. I am shocked and Nashally and I were
just talking about this before you.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Guys jumped on.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's something that I hope to do one day as
a father, is to be able to travel with my kids.
And so we do appreciate all the tips.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You have.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Question though, when you're flying from like Holland to arub
But how long a flight is that and how do
you keep everybody entertained?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Well, it was ten hours and it was the longest
flight we've done with them so far. Yeah, and we
did a red eye actually, so we were hoping you
would sleep most of it, but they didn't really.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
They have iPads like Amazon Fire for the twins because
they're very rough on electronics, less expensive. Lux is like
not really into watching TV that much. He's just like
on off, on, off, like turning and pushing all the
buttons all the time. So he's our hardest one traveling.
(03:26):
So we kind of just like pass them back and forth.
We're like, all right, it's your turn the other one
to break and then go back.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But we don't. Yeah, we don't really give them screen
time at home, so when they are on the plane
and they have something to watch, they're usually super engaged.
And then we bought like these like hammocks.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Hammocks are key, the ones that you wrap over the
seat in front of the tray table and you can
feel like you're lying down a little bit. The elevation
of your foot just like half a foot is game changer.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I think they were much more comfortable that way.
So that's that's a big pit. I've never used those before,
but they loved those. We had like their like all
their sleeping stuff I always bring with us that they're
used to having at home, so like they have these
tiny little pillows, They've got their blankets there, these like
they're tindy, like I don't know when little blankets they're
(04:19):
attached to.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, it made it kind of like it's first packing
a little annoying because we had.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
A lot of stuff like they're sleeping because I feel
like as soon as you put their sleepsack on, they're like,
oh okay, it's time to.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Go to sleep, so they just yeah, what about snacks though,
that's my key, He's able to eat whatever he wants
on a flight.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Oh yeah, just keeping.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
We had these like crazy boxes and they got tossed
into the aisle on the flank. They're not looking, They're
like sure, and it's just all over the floor. I'm like,
this is a bad idea motel.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I know, the floor is so disgusting when we leave
a flight.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, they all got sick obviously because they're crawling and
touching everything. You just have to go this sound.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean, here's the deal. I'm not a parent. It's
hard for me to put vacation and what you're telling
me in the same.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Sentence, Jara doesn't really believe in it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I don't see. I don't see how this works. Also,
I am curious. Obviously the two of you are very busy.
We're gonna talk about the duo app here.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Lauren.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Obviously you're a business owner, you design fashion, you have
a great presence on social media and ari uh. You
obviously are working with the app as well. But we've
also seen you on some reality television recently, like The
Traders on peacock. How give us a picture of how
you do navigate life with all of this stuff happening
(05:46):
at all times.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Oh, I don't know. How do we navigate it? We
just prioritize, you know. I think in the morning, like
right now, like a whiteboard, I'm like, okay, I have
to do these things. But for me, the app has
been my focus this year, so I kind of took
a real estate took a back seat to that, and
the market's so stale anyway, so it's kind of a
good time to kind of shift into something else. And
(06:09):
it's been really rewarding to see couples having a good
time on these dates and a lot of great feedback
from the app. So that's kind of what I've been
focusing on, other than travel and just hanging out with
the kids. But I don't know, every day is different,
which kind of makes it's fun too. I think if
I did one thing for a long time, I would
get bored of it, So it's fun to like do
(06:29):
multiple things.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah. Yeah, And then for me, I guess I'm working
on the app too, but I do different things for
the app. I do it more of the creative stuff
and like managing people like, that's more my specialty.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
She's really great at managing people. I cannot fire anyone,
I cannot give good feedback. I don't know what it is,
but she's great. I'm just too nice and I'm like, yeah,
you're doing great. And then behind close stores and like
they're terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
More go talk to them. Either you're awesome, Lauren going there, but.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, I do that. And then this year, I feel
like I've been so busy since the twins are born.
I've been trying to be focused on the kids more
because I'm realizing, like Alessie's going to be with us
one more year before seating school every day, So doing
that and then obviously the app and then social media
just like developing in different avenues and in social media.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Can you remind people why the app is different than
say Bumble or Riya.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
So our app is for couples that are already together
or like if you've met on a Tinder or Bumble
something like that, and you don't want to plan the
date or you want to take the pressure off of
one person planning your first date, you would go on
duo and we would plan a surprise date for you.
So it kind of just like takes the pressure and
the stress off of one person planning it and you
(07:51):
can both show up and have a surprise date.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, it's so cool inspiration on there. So it's more
built for couples.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You say the price range too, so it's not like
you're going to go on some massively expensive bachelor themed
date if you sign up.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Correct. Yeah, you said the budget could literally be zero.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
To believe.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, you could say zero and we could just plan
like something either at home. Did you creative ideas on
where you could maybe go to like a scenic outlook
and you bring snacks from the house, you know what
I mean. So it's always like this extravagant thing. It
can be. It could be anything.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Really, that's such a good idea.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, we talked about the duo app when you
came on and first announced it, but at that point
in time, it was the announcement. It was kind of
just the initiation of this thing starting remind listeners out
there where this idea came from. Kind of what was
the birth child of this app and why was it
important to the two of you you to make it
(09:01):
a priority.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
In your life, well as everyone on this podcast probably knows.
We met on The Bachelor and we were sent on
surprise dates and we both showed up and were like, Okay,
what are we doing? Kind of exciting and anxiety inducing.
So we were like, this is a cool experience. We
want to continue this throughout our relationship. So Ari and
(09:23):
I've always been really intentional about planning fun and like
new dates for each other, and through COVID, we had
to get really creative and I started surprising Ari with
dates at our house, just like totally off the wall,
run things that you normally wouldn't do. And we started
getting asked a lot about like how you come up
with these ideas, and you know, like what kind of
(09:45):
ideas can you share with other couples? And we're like,
you know what, maybe maybe we need to build a
platform or we can share you know, fun experiences like
this with other couples, because I feel like it really
strengthened our relationship and we wanted to help other couples
strengthen their relationship and keep things exciting too.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I love I love the idea of the app. It's
so such a good idea. Now we have in our
notes to hear something that I don't know about you
guys from your on social media because I follow you
pretty well. You guys sleep in separate beds, No, no,
we did.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
We did when the twins were first born, like for
a while. Yeah, yeah, but it was just for survival.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So when somebody was on sleep and then somebody was
on like overnight.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Mode, yes exactly, we just switch off like that. Yeah,
but not any longer. No, not any longer. The kids
sleep great, So like, yeah that was that was only
like a two month period maybe, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It must be nice to come back together again then.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So you guys also came together in another way recently.
I think in Aruba you renewed your vows.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, that was something we were not planning on doing,
okay soon, but we heard that Aruba has this whole
like group vow renewal that they do there every year.
It's called Aruba I do, and it's where a ton
of I think there were hundreds of couples that came
together on Eagle Beach and they do like a group
vow renewal and it was just so fun, Like our
(11:17):
kids were there. It was at sunset. We went to
like watch dancers and just celebrate like being married. For
four and a half years. We'll probably do another one,
but it was so fun.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It was super cool. So I think going into it,
we didn't know do we write our own vowels again.
But basically there's couples there from you know, just married
for like a year or two to all the way
up to what sixty five years was the oldest.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It was a lot of years.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It was a lot of years, and so it was
really cool. They had one person sort of do the
vow renewal, and the vows that they that they spoke
about were awesome. I thought, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I honestly, we kind of went into it lighthearted. We're like, oh,
this is gonna be so cute, like obviously you love
each other, be fun to do this together with our
kids there. But we both like we're starving expecting that
are He like tries to act like stone cold. He's like,
oh yeah, unbothered, and then he just starts getting like
(12:16):
all red and I'm.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Like, I'm well, if I cry, she's definitely cry, because
it doesn't it doesn't a lot to make long.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And I love seeing couples that have been together forever,
like their whole lives. I'm like, oh, that's gonna be
us one day.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, everyone dressed in white. You know. The weather obviously
was perfect, and it was the fifth year they've done this,
and it's just such a cool concept. I think. I
think it's like something that it's just like good for
the heart. Think it's never a bad time to just
kind of recommit and you know, telling each other why
you they mean so much to you. And I think
it was it was super fun.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So you guys didn't like exchange vows that you wrote,
you basically just kind of repeat after the leader.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yep, exactly. But I did write some vows, but I
wrote some in my head, so cute.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think it's it's always beautiful to tell your partner
how you feel something. I'm trying to get better at.
As you know, I've been married now for almost two years.
I forget that the partner needs to know like you
think it, you feel it, they need to know and
sometimes having that little push helps. Now, you did get
married back in twenty nineteen. You mentioned that you are
(13:30):
going on four and a half years, right over four years. Now,
you get married in Maui, then you also have a
house in Maui, and obviously everybody listening is familiar and
aware of the stories that are coming out of Mali
right now, the devastation from the fires and the lives
lost and the lives changed, and the lives affected.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
What.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Okay, So a lot of questions kind of underneath this umbrella,
But the first one is was your community affected? Was
your neighborhood affected?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Our neighborhood not?
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Well?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
We lived up in upcountry and there were fires behind
our neighborhood, but luckily they didn't.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Reach our neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
So people in the community where we live, yes, they
were affected, but our neighborhood was not.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah. So I think the closest fire house that was
affected to us was, you know, less than a half
a mile, so really close.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It was really close.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, we're did you do you know? I mean, I'm
sure you do. This is a neighborhood. Did you have
friends down there at the houses they could buy yours
at this time?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Where do we have what?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Do you have friends in the neighborhood that were there
when the fires started to come over?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:42):
We're calling them every day. We're like waiting for them
to wake up. They're like, hey, how are you happening?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
One of our neighbors. Dan he was one of the
only ones that kind of stayed in the neighborhood because
our neighborhood got evacuated and he lives sort of the
top of the neighborhood and behind his house is a
big open ranch and that's where the fire was. And
so so I was kind of calling him getting updates,
is getting closer to the house, like you know, where
the wind's doing, because it was all kind of dependent
(15:09):
on the winds. If the wind shifted, our neighborhood could
have gotten burned down. But it winds kind of continued
in one direction and it just blew past our house.
But yeah, he was sending images of the fire in
the field behind the neighborhood and kind of recounting like
how windy it was. He said it was insane, like
he couldn't even stand up. He had to go inside.
He slept in the living room because he felt like
(15:30):
the windows were going to break in his bedroom. The
winds were so intense, and.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
He was sending us videos and our trees were sideways,
like just blowing so hard.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, so I went back there to check on the
house and to help the community, and you know, in
our yard, just a lot of down trees, but you know,
no fire damage. You went there, Yeah, so I just
got back yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yes, Dad, Oh my gosh.
So yeah. I went back for a couple of days
volunteered with We had the war memorial, which is where
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most of the displaced families were put in the beginning,
and when I arrived, luckily a lot of them were
moved into the hotels. So now on kind of Poli,
which is right next to Lahaina, many of the displaced
families are staying at the Hyatt and they're being well
taken care of. But for the first kind of week,
there wasn't really a lot of organizations, so it was
a big, huge community poll to help the families, help
(16:28):
the affected, get water to people groceries. The water is
contaminated in a lot of areas on the island right
now even still, so there is a lot of like
community support, which is the coolest thing to see. So
I went to go volunteer there and it was definitely
eye opening. Where some areas of the island are obviously
like Lahinaer it's just like complete devastation, and other areas
(16:51):
it's so unaffected you would you wouldn't even know anything happened,
you know. So it's kind of a weird mix of
being in the most beautiful place in the world, knowing
that high as an ashes, but then also having all
these our friends and business owners being like, we really
want people to come here because you know, our lives
depend on tourism. So there's just like this weird a
mix of emotions right now. It's it's very intense and
(17:14):
very sad.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's gonna say, can you elaborate on your emotions, like
how does it feel just to like see a community
that you feel like you're part of just being ruins.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's obviously super devastating. When we
drive through behind a they blocked off where you can
go down, so no one can go down into ing
of town where the damage happened, but you can drive
along the highway, so you see it come down the hill,
you see it next to you, and it's just unbelievable
because it's really so it's a small area, but it's
(17:45):
just completely in ruins, and it's sad because we've had
so many moments there and it's just I don't know,
it's hard to put into words, but Luckily, I feel
like the community is so strong. Everyone's kind of come
together there, so you know it will eventually rebound. But
it's just it will take years and years and years
(18:07):
for anything sort of to happen there and for it
to get back to I guess how once could be.
I'm just really thankful to kind of be part of
that community and to help them for a couple of days.
But yeah, luckily our house wasn't affected.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So do you have plans? I mean, I don't know
how often you guys were down there. I mean, you
know how often were you spending time in Maui?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
A few times a year. We go there, usually during
the summer because it's super hot here. We just go
there to escape, are going on New Year's and then
like a couple of their times swinkled in there in
there just whenever we can.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So do you have plans then to to go back soon?
Kind of what are you guys thinking as you kind
of process, you know, this devastation, are you planning on
keeping that same routine?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I think we do plan to go back to our
home up in Koula and like hang out with our
friends and our community there. But we're obviously not going
to be going near where the fires are where everyone's
trying to like rebuild and all of that. But we
want to go back and we want to help. I
think now that our's gone without the family, he's kind
of scoped it out and been like, okay, they'd be
(19:30):
okay for us to go back, and like maybe we
can help in some ways and have a Lessie involved
in volunteering and stuff and do what we can.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, I think it's important to show Lessie and the kids,
you know, to be part of the community, to do
what you can to help, and so I think we
will probably go back in a few weeks and do
some more volunteering.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Did you go to your actual house while you were there, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes, actual house. The community around that area was just
helping chop down down trees and helping neighbors get fresh water,
making grocery runs for neighbors like the elderly. So that
was kind of what I was helping with in our area.
And I was Lina and helped there's they set up
these like the locals set up these hubs, which is
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really kind of creative at these parks. So anyone who
was displaced can go get food, clothes, you know, books
for kids, like the small little comforts that the community
could provide. They really came through with us, so that
was cool. So I volunteered at one of those hubs
for a couple of days as well, and then kind
of made runs for people like this one gentleman. He
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didn't have a phone, so went and got them a
phone and made like lists for people and then and
went to like Costco and got them those things.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
That's so nice, that's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So obviously you've been down there, you've seen it. I'm
sure you've gotten back and be broken down and talked
about the trip of Lauren, Ari and Lauren. If there's
some listeners out there that are going to help, I
want to support, but I'm not going to be able
to make it to Maui. What are some of the
organizations that you were able to see doing work on
the ground that you would say, hey, these are great
(21:08):
people to support right now.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's actually so tough because I feel like there's been
a ton of donations already to a lot of different funds,
to a lot of different charities, and I think right now,
like the help is would be better used to directly
help the families. So Lahina has started like an Instagram
page and also like a huge Google doc with verified
(21:32):
families that have lost everything. And that's kind of where
I've put my attention to, just because the big organizations
like Maui Food Bank or Red Cross Salvation Army, they've
seen just a huge influx of donations. But really, I
think the immediate need is there now for the families
(21:54):
directly affected. So I think that's probably the best route.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
What about Baby to Baby, I feel like you guys
are working with them.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, Baby and the Baby is a good one, I
would say as far as the you know, that obviously
hits home close, you know, close to home, all the
all the parents out there with kids that are staying
in either the shelter or the hotels. They provide all
the necessary things like baby equipment, formula, diapers, which was
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a really big need as a couple of days a
couple of days ago. So that is a great organization
of support.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well yeah, well that uh, that list is important right now.
And our thoughts here are with the people in Maui
and Ari. It's great that you went down there. Now
we're gonna completely switch gears. Here, we're gonna finish this
conversation with the two of you talking about The Bachelor.
Do you still watch it or have you not tuned
into this last season?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
We have not watched very long time.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You guys. I know I know this about you, but
let me tell you, go watch this past season in
a binge form because it was amazing, which yeah, which.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
It felt like a throwback season. It felt like one
that would have existed years ago, lacking drama, putting pestals.
It was really really great. So you don't watch it,
you're not tuning in, so most of your world is
existing around working with this app. Then, so as we close,
(23:27):
tell us about your dreams for for duo, what you
hope to do in the future with this app. Kind
of where do you see this going?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I feel like our dreams are, you know, just to
improve relationships, you know. I think that's kind of the
number one thing. So many, so many married couples and
in mores, So I think a lot of that is
due to just not putting each other first. So I
think our app does that, and I think it puts
a priority on dating, which I think is important. So
(23:58):
our dreams and goals are just make the app obviously
as big as they can get to help a lot
of relationships. And I think that's that is the goal.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
That's a great goal. That's beautiful. I love it, and
we will.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Be tuning into Golden Bachelors.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
See people coming. All right, guys, it's been so good
talking to you. Thank you so much for coming on
and for doing what you're doing in Hawaii. We'll see soon.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Thanks all bye.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
This has been another episode of the Almost Famous podcast.
Thanks Ari and Lauren for coming on the show. As mentioned, uh,
there there is some complexity in the donations to Hawaii. Obviously,
all those organizations that were mentioned, like Salvation, Army, Convoy
of Hope, United Way, Red Cross, like they do have
(24:53):
influence and your gifts to them and your donations of
the matter. But also there's a lot of individual families
out there that are hurting, that have and displaced and
need support also, and so Baby to Baby there is
another great organization. So maybe that list helps, Maybe it
helps guide if you're looking to support in some way,
and maybe if that list doesn't help, then we encourage
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you to dig in deep and find ways to support people.
Either financially or with time or with encouragement who have
been a part of this devastating event in one of
the most beautiful places in the world. Ari and Lauren
obviously are working really hard ash on this duo app.
It came out in March. They came on the podcast
then to kind of announce it, and it sounds like it's.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Going really well, really smart idea.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, it sounds really cute.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I've seen some of my friends on Instagram, Chris Harrison
kind of stands out to me who used this app
with Lauren at some point. They're doing some great promotion
and so you can go check out the duo app
if you're looking That's duo if you're looking for great
date night ideas. But as ashlen I mentioned earlier in
this week, we're going to continue to bring on past
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Bachelor Nation contestants and catch up in their lives and
interview them and kind of figure out where they're at
in life. Where are they now, I guess is the
question that we'll be digging into. But until next time,
I've been Ben, I've been actually bye.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's time for a very special episode of the Almost
Famous Podcast. Of course, we promised you that in the
off season we are going to be interviewing and bringing
back guests who Bachelor Nation loves, and these two people
are definitely in that category. Ari and Lauren, thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thank thank you so much us.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Hello all. Okay, so you guys have just returned home
from what our just told us was a month of
traveling with three kids under the age of five, and
holy crap, where did you go and how did you
do it?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
We started in Michigan because my family we went there
during the summer is when I was growing up and
we just wanted to go visit family there.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
So we're there for a week.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
And then Netherlands.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, then we went to Holland to go see my family.
My grandma's their great grandma. She's ninety one, so amazing.
She hasn't met the twins yet, so that was really fun,
and we were there for a little It was a
little long because it rained every day. What was it
like two weeks almost yep. Yeah, And then we we
arrived early, so The next stop was a Aruba, which
(01:13):
is really cool. And yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Decided to leave the Netherlands early because it just wouldn't
stop rating and there was nothing to do with three
kids in the rain after we'd exhausted all this, right,
the family visits, so we went to Ruba early and
stayed there for a week, a little over a week,
but it was beautiful.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What are your tips to traveling with children, especially in
like long term stays, like two weeks in the Netherlands
is hard, Like where did you stay?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
We booked an airbnb. I think like that's the easiest
thing for us because we've got three kids now, and
we planned to have the twins in one room in
a Lessian one room, and then obviously us in our own.
But they liked sharing rooms there in a new place.
They just felt more comfortable altogether, so they We could
have probably stayed in a hotel anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But well, I think it's clutch because you can cook,
you have kind of like a home base. It just
feels like a little bit more. I don't know, the
transition I think is easier. The hotel gets a little
tiring because like you are just eating out every meal,
so it's good, I think to have a air bandy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
The Midwest has a special place in my heart. Michigan
is a place obviously I went to from Indiana a
lot during the summer. We have a lot of friends
up there. I am shocked and Nashally and I were
just talking about this before you.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Guys jumped on.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's something that I hope to do one day as
a father, is to be able to travel with my kids.
And so we do appreciate all the tips.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You have.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Question though, when you're flying from like Holland to arub
But how long a flight is that and how do
you keep everybody entertained?
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Well, it was ten hours and it was the longest
flight we've done with them so far. Yeah, and we
did a red eye actually, so we were hoping you
would sleep most of it, but they didn't really.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I mean yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
They have iPads like Amazon Fire for the twins because
they're very rough on electronics, less expensive. Lux is like
not really into watching TV that much. He's just like
on off, on, off, like turning and pushing all the
buttons all the time. So he's our hardest one traveling.
(03:26):
So we kind of just like pass them back and forth.
We're like, all right, it's your turn the other one
to break and then go back.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But we don't. Yeah, we don't really give them screen
time at home, so when they are on the plane
and they have something to watch, they're usually super engaged.
And then we bought like these like hammocks.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Hammocks are key, the ones that you wrap over the
seat in front of the tray table and you can
feel like you're lying down a little bit. The elevation
of your foot just like half a foot is game changer.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah, I think they were much more comfortable that way.
So that's that's a big pit. I've never used those before,
but they loved those. We had like their like all
their sleeping stuff I always bring with us that they're
used to having at home, so like they have these
tiny little pillows, They've got their blankets there, these like
they're tindy, like I don't know when little blankets they're
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attached to.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, it made it kind of like it's first packing
a little annoying because we had.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
A lot of stuff like they're sleeping because I feel
like as soon as you put their sleepsack on, they're like,
oh okay, it's time to.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Go to sleep, so they just yeah, what about snacks though,
that's my key, He's able to eat whatever he wants
on a flight.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Oh yeah, just keeping.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
We had these like crazy boxes and they got tossed
into the aisle on the flank. They're not looking, They're
like sure, and it's just all over the floor. I'm like,
this is a bad idea motel.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I know, the floor is so disgusting when we leave
a flight.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, they all got sick obviously because they're crawling and
touching everything. You just have to go this sound.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean, here's the deal. I'm not a parent. It's
hard for me to put vacation and what you're telling
me in the same.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Sentence, Jara doesn't really believe in it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, I don't see. I don't see how this works. Also,
I am curious. Obviously the two of you are very busy.
We're gonna talk about the duo app here.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Lauren.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Obviously you're a business owner, you design fashion, you have
a great presence on social media and ari uh. You
obviously are working with the app as well. But we've
also seen you on some reality television recently, like The
Traders on peacock. How give us a picture of how
you do navigate life with all of this stuff happening
(05:46):
at all times.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Oh, I don't know. How do we navigate it? We
just prioritize, you know. I think in the morning, like
right now, like a whiteboard, I'm like, okay, I have
to do these things. But for me, the app has
been my focus this year, so I kind of took
a real estate took a back seat to that, and
the market's so stale anyway, so it's kind of a
good time to kind of shift into something else. And
(06:09):
it's been really rewarding to see couples having a good
time on these dates and a lot of great feedback
from the app. So that's kind of what I've been
focusing on, other than travel and just hanging out with
the kids. But I don't know, every day is different,
which kind of makes it's fun too. I think if
I did one thing for a long time, I would
get bored of it, So it's fun to like do
(06:29):
multiple things.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Yeah. Yeah, And then for me, I guess I'm working
on the app too, but I do different things for
the app. I do it more of the creative stuff
and like managing people like, that's more my specialty.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
She's really great at managing people. I cannot fire anyone,
I cannot give good feedback. I don't know what it is,
but she's great. I'm just too nice and I'm like, yeah,
you're doing great. And then behind close stores and like
they're terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
More go talk to them. Either you're awesome, Lauren going there, but.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, I do that. And then this year, I feel
like I've been so busy since the twins are born.
I've been trying to be focused on the kids more
because I'm realizing, like Alessie's going to be with us
one more year before seating school every day, So doing
that and then obviously the app and then social media
just like developing in different avenues and in social media.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Can you remind people why the app is different than
say Bumble or Riya.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
So our app is for couples that are already together
or like if you've met on a Tinder or Bumble
something like that, and you don't want to plan the
date or you want to take the pressure off of
one person planning your first date, you would go on
duo and we would plan a surprise date for you.
So it kind of just like takes the pressure and
the stress off of one person planning it and you
(07:51):
can both show up and have a surprise date.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, it's so cool inspiration on there. So it's more
built for couples.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You say the price range too, so it's not like
you're going to go on some massively expensive bachelor themed
date if you sign up.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Correct. Yeah, you said the budget could literally be zero.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
To believe.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, you could say zero and we could just plan
like something either at home. Did you creative ideas on
where you could maybe go to like a scenic outlook
and you bring snacks from the house, you know what
I mean. So it's always like this extravagant thing. It
can be. It could be anything.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Really, that's such a good idea.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I mean, we talked about the duo app when you
came on and first announced it, but at that point
in time, it was the announcement. It was kind of
just the initiation of this thing starting remind listeners out
there where this idea came from. Kind of what was
the birth child of this app and why was it
important to the two of you you to make it
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a priority.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
In your life, well as everyone on this podcast probably knows.
We met on The Bachelor and we were sent on
surprise dates and we both showed up and were like, Okay,
what are we doing? Kind of exciting and anxiety inducing.
So we were like, this is a cool experience. We
want to continue this throughout our relationship. So Ari and
(09:23):
I've always been really intentional about planning fun and like
new dates for each other, and through COVID, we had
to get really creative and I started surprising Ari with
dates at our house, just like totally off the wall,
run things that you normally wouldn't do. And we started
getting asked a lot about like how you come up
with these ideas, and you know, like what kind of
(09:45):
ideas can you share with other couples? And we're like,
you know what, maybe maybe we need to build a
platform or we can share you know, fun experiences like
this with other couples, because I feel like it really
strengthened our relationship and we wanted to help other couples
strengthen their relationship and keep things exciting too.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I love I love the idea of the app. It's
so such a good idea. Now we have in our
notes to hear something that I don't know about you
guys from your on social media because I follow you
pretty well. You guys sleep in separate beds, No, no,
we did.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
We did when the twins were first born, like for
a while. Yeah, yeah, but it was just for survival.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So when somebody was on sleep and then somebody was
on like overnight.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Mode, yes exactly, we just switch off like that. Yeah,
but not any longer. No, not any longer. The kids
sleep great, So like, yeah that was that was only
like a two month period maybe, yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It must be nice to come back together again then.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So you guys also came together in another way recently.
I think in Aruba you renewed your vows.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, yeah, that was something we were not planning on doing,
okay soon, but we heard that Aruba has this whole
like group vow renewal that they do there every year.
It's called Aruba I do, and it's where a ton
of I think there were hundreds of couples that came
together on Eagle Beach and they do like a group
vow renewal and it was just so fun, Like our
(11:17):
kids were there. It was at sunset. We went to
like watch dancers and just celebrate like being married. For
four and a half years. We'll probably do another one,
but it was so fun.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
It was super cool. So I think going into it,
we didn't know do we write our own vowels again.
But basically there's couples there from you know, just married
for like a year or two to all the way
up to what sixty five years was the oldest.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
It was a lot of years.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It was a lot of years, and so it was
really cool. They had one person sort of do the
vow renewal, and the vows that they that they spoke
about were awesome. I thought, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I honestly, we kind of went into it lighthearted. We're like, oh,
this is gonna be so cute, like obviously you love
each other, be fun to do this together with our
kids there. But we both like we're starving expecting that
are He like tries to act like stone cold. He's like,
oh yeah, unbothered, and then he just starts getting like
(12:16):
all red and I'm.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Like, I'm well, if I cry, she's definitely cry, because
it doesn't it doesn't a lot to make long.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
And I love seeing couples that have been together forever,
like their whole lives. I'm like, oh, that's gonna be
us one day.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, everyone dressed in white. You know. The weather obviously
was perfect, and it was the fifth year they've done this,
and it's just such a cool concept. I think. I
think it's like something that it's just like good for
the heart. Think it's never a bad time to just
kind of recommit and you know, telling each other why
you they mean so much to you. And I think
it was it was super fun.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
So you guys didn't like exchange vows that you wrote,
you basically just kind of repeat after the leader.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yep, exactly. But I did write some vows, but I
wrote some in my head, so cute.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think it's it's always beautiful to tell your partner
how you feel something. I'm trying to get better at.
As you know, I've been married now for almost two years.
I forget that the partner needs to know like you
think it, you feel it, they need to know and
sometimes having that little push helps. Now, you did get
married back in twenty nineteen. You mentioned that you are
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going on four and a half years, right over four years. Now,
you get married in Maui, then you also have a
house in Maui, and obviously everybody listening is familiar and
aware of the stories that are coming out of Mali
right now, the devastation from the fires and the lives
lost and the lives changed, and the lives affected.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
What.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Okay, So a lot of questions kind of underneath this umbrella,
But the first one is was your community affected? Was
your neighborhood affected?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Our neighborhood not?
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Well?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
We lived up in upcountry and there were fires behind
our neighborhood, but luckily they didn't.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Reach our neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
So people in the community where we live, yes, they
were affected, but our neighborhood was not.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah. So I think the closest fire house that was
affected to us was, you know, less than a half
a mile, so really close.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
It was really close.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, we're did you do you know? I mean, I'm
sure you do. This is a neighborhood. Did you have
friends down there at the houses they could buy yours
at this time?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Where do we have what?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Like?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Do you have friends in the neighborhood that were there
when the fires started to come over?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:42):
We're calling them every day. We're like waiting for them
to wake up. They're like, hey, how are you happening?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
One of our neighbors. Dan he was one of the
only ones that kind of stayed in the neighborhood because
our neighborhood got evacuated and he lives sort of the
top of the neighborhood and behind his house is a
big open ranch and that's where the fire was. And
so so I was kind of calling him getting updates,
is getting closer to the house, like you know, where
the wind's doing, because it was all kind of dependent
(15:09):
on the winds. If the wind shifted, our neighborhood could
have gotten burned down. But it winds kind of continued
in one direction and it just blew past our house.
But yeah, he was sending images of the fire in
the field behind the neighborhood and kind of recounting like
how windy it was. He said it was insane, like
he couldn't even stand up. He had to go inside.
He slept in the living room because he felt like
(15:30):
the windows were going to break in his bedroom. The
winds were so intense, and.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
He was sending us videos and our trees were sideways,
like just blowing so hard.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, so I went back there to check on the
house and to help the community, and you know, in
our yard, just a lot of down trees, but you know,
no fire damage. You went there, Yeah, so I just
got back yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yes, Dad, Oh my gosh.
So yeah. I went back for a couple of days
volunteered with We had the war memorial, which is where
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most of the displaced families were put in the beginning,
and when I arrived, luckily a lot of them were
moved into the hotels. So now on kind of Poli,
which is right next to Lahaina, many of the displaced
families are staying at the Hyatt and they're being well
taken care of. But for the first kind of week,
there wasn't really a lot of organizations, so it was
a big, huge community poll to help the families, help
(16:28):
the affected, get water to people groceries. The water is
contaminated in a lot of areas on the island right
now even still, so there is a lot of like
community support, which is the coolest thing to see. So
I went to go volunteer there and it was definitely
eye opening. Where some areas of the island are obviously
like Lahinaer it's just like complete devastation, and other areas
(16:51):
it's so unaffected you would you wouldn't even know anything happened,
you know. So it's kind of a weird mix of
being in the most beautiful place in the world, knowing
that high as an ashes, but then also having all
these our friends and business owners being like, we really
want people to come here because you know, our lives
depend on tourism. So there's just like this weird a
mix of emotions right now. It's it's very intense and
(17:14):
very sad.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's gonna say, can you elaborate on your emotions, like
how does it feel just to like see a community
that you feel like you're part of just being ruins.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's obviously super devastating. When we
drive through behind a they blocked off where you can
go down, so no one can go down into ing
of town where the damage happened, but you can drive
along the highway, so you see it come down the hill,
you see it next to you, and it's just unbelievable
because it's really so it's a small area, but it's
(17:45):
just completely in ruins, and it's sad because we've had
so many moments there and it's just I don't know,
it's hard to put into words, but Luckily, I feel
like the community is so strong. Everyone's kind of come
together there, so you know it will eventually rebound. But
it's just it will take years and years and years
(18:07):
for anything sort of to happen there and for it
to get back to I guess how once could be.
I'm just really thankful to kind of be part of
that community and to help them for a couple of days.
But yeah, luckily our house wasn't affected.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So do you have plans? I mean, I don't know
how often you guys were down there. I mean, you
know how often were you spending time in Maui?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
A few times a year. We go there, usually during
the summer because it's super hot here. We just go
there to escape, are going on New Year's and then
like a couple of their times swinkled in there in
there just whenever we can.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So do you have plans then to to go back soon?
Kind of what are you guys thinking as you kind
of process, you know, this devastation, are you planning on
keeping that same routine?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I think we do plan to go back to our
home up in Koula and like hang out with our
friends and our community there. But we're obviously not going
to be going near where the fires are where everyone's
trying to like rebuild and all of that. But we
want to go back and we want to help. I
think now that our's gone without the family, he's kind
of scoped it out and been like, okay, they'd be
(19:30):
okay for us to go back, and like maybe we
can help in some ways and have a Lessie involved
in volunteering and stuff and do what we can.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, I think it's important to show Lessie and the kids,
you know, to be part of the community, to do
what you can to help, and so I think we
will probably go back in a few weeks and do
some more volunteering.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Did you go to your actual house while you were there, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes, actual house. The community around that area was just
helping chop down down trees and helping neighbors get fresh water,
making grocery runs for neighbors like the elderly. So that
was kind of what I was helping with in our area.
And I was Lina and helped there's they set up
these like the locals set up these hubs, which is
(20:16):
really kind of creative at these parks. So anyone who
was displaced can go get food, clothes, you know, books
for kids, like the small little comforts that the community
could provide. They really came through with us, so that
was cool. So I volunteered at one of those hubs
for a couple of days as well, and then kind
of made runs for people like this one gentleman. He
(20:38):
didn't have a phone, so went and got them a
phone and made like lists for people and then and
went to like Costco and got them those things.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
That's so nice, that's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So obviously you've been down there, you've seen it. I'm
sure you've gotten back and be broken down and talked
about the trip of Lauren, Ari and Lauren. If there's
some listeners out there that are going to help, I
want to support, but I'm not going to be able
to make it to Maui. What are some of the
organizations that you were able to see doing work on
the ground that you would say, hey, these are great
(21:08):
people to support right now.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's actually so tough because I feel like there's been
a ton of donations already to a lot of different funds,
to a lot of different charities, and I think right now,
like the help is would be better used to directly
help the families. So Lahina has started like an Instagram
page and also like a huge Google doc with verified
(21:32):
families that have lost everything. And that's kind of where
I've put my attention to, just because the big organizations
like Maui Food Bank or Red Cross Salvation Army, they've
seen just a huge influx of donations. But really, I
think the immediate need is there now for the families
(21:54):
directly affected. So I think that's probably the best route.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
What about Baby to Baby, I feel like you guys
are working with them.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, Baby and the Baby is a good one, I
would say as far as the you know, that obviously
hits home close, you know, close to home, all the
all the parents out there with kids that are staying
in either the shelter or the hotels. They provide all
the necessary things like baby equipment, formula, diapers, which was
(22:21):
a really big need as a couple of days a
couple of days ago. So that is a great organization
of support.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Well yeah, well that uh, that list is important right now.
And our thoughts here are with the people in Maui
and Ari. It's great that you went down there. Now
we're gonna completely switch gears. Here, we're gonna finish this
conversation with the two of you talking about The Bachelor.
Do you still watch it or have you not tuned
into this last season?
Speaker 5 (22:49):
We have not watched very long time.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You guys. I know I know this about you, but
let me tell you, go watch this past season in
a binge form because it was amazing, which yeah, which.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
It felt like a throwback season. It felt like one
that would have existed years ago, lacking drama, putting pestals.
It was really really great. So you don't watch it,
you're not tuning in, so most of your world is
existing around working with this app. Then, so as we close,
(23:27):
tell us about your dreams for for duo, what you
hope to do in the future with this app. Kind
of where do you see this going?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I feel like our dreams are, you know, just to
improve relationships, you know. I think that's kind of the
number one thing. So many, so many married couples and
in mores, So I think a lot of that is
due to just not putting each other first. So I
think our app does that, and I think it puts
a priority on dating, which I think is important. So
(23:58):
our dreams and goals are just make the app obviously
as big as they can get to help a lot
of relationships. And I think that's that is the goal.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
That's a great goal. That's beautiful. I love it, and
we will.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Be tuning into Golden Bachelors.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
See people coming. All right, guys, it's been so good
talking to you. Thank you so much for coming on
and for doing what you're doing in Hawaii. We'll see soon.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Thanks all bye.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
This has been another episode of the Almost Famous podcast.
Thanks Ari and Lauren for coming on the show. As mentioned, uh,
there there is some complexity in the donations to Hawaii. Obviously,
all those organizations that were mentioned, like Salvation, Army, Convoy
of Hope, United Way, Red Cross, like they do have
(24:53):
influence and your gifts to them and your donations of
the matter. But also there's a lot of individual families
out there that are hurting, that have and displaced and
need support also, and so Baby to Baby there is
another great organization. So maybe that list helps, Maybe it
helps guide if you're looking to support in some way,
and maybe if that list doesn't help, then we encourage
(25:15):
you to dig in deep and find ways to support people.
Either financially or with time or with encouragement who have
been a part of this devastating event in one of
the most beautiful places in the world. Ari and Lauren
obviously are working really hard ash on this duo app.
It came out in March. They came on the podcast
then to kind of announce it, and it sounds like it's.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Going really well, really smart idea.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, it sounds really cute.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I've seen some of my friends on Instagram, Chris Harrison
kind of stands out to me who used this app
with Lauren at some point. They're doing some great promotion
and so you can go check out the duo app
if you're looking That's duo if you're looking for great
date night ideas. But as ashlen I mentioned earlier in
this week, we're going to continue to bring on past
(26:03):
Bachelor Nation contestants and catch up in their lives and
interview them and kind of figure out where they're at
in life. Where are they now, I guess is the
question that we'll be digging into. But until next time,
I've been Ben, I've been actually bye.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
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