March 14, 2025 • 18 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
With I our radio. This is the almost SAMEOS podcast.
Today we are trying something new, not trying doing something new.
This is almost same as podcast today, we are doing
something new. We have taken in your questions. You've sent
us a bunch of questions. We're going to answer them
today because they're some of these questions could be answered
(00:25):
by both Ashley and myself. Our producer Hannah is jumping
on to ask us these questions that she feels our
most juicy or interesting, and then Ashley and I will
both answer them, or one of us will answer them.
This is exciting. Thank you for sending in these questions.
Please don't stop doing that. With that, I'm going to
(00:46):
introduce Ashley and Hannah. Come on in.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hey guys, we have twenty six questions in front of us.
I don't even want to take a look at them.
I just want Hanah to throw out what she thinks
is the most interesting to both Ben and I. Let's
do it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
There are a lot of questions.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We got a lot of good ones, but I'm going
to start us off with this question. It reads, if
you could choose any former bachelor or Bachelorette to come
back and.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Be the lead again. Who would it be and why.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'll go first? So there's a couple side questions that
I have for this. Does this person have a significant
other now? Or is if this is like a.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Dream land, dreamland does not matter?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Okay, Well, in a dream land, I think I'd still
want Caitlin Bristow to be the lead again because she
is so entertaining. Even if she had the most boring
cast ever, she would make a great TV show. And
(01:48):
of course she didn't find her happily ever effort through
the actual show, so I think she would be worthy
of getting another chance.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Ben, I would have to say Caitlyn Bristow as well.
I'm biased they so I'll try to pick somebody other
than Caitlin. I think Andy Dorfman season was fun to watch,
and desire A you Know was a good one as well.
Like those two stand out to me as iconic seasons.
(02:15):
I'm surprised you didn't say Emily Maynard.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
In my head already had two seasons. I'm not sure why.
I think it's because she won Brad season and we
never see the winner end up becoming the lead, So
in my head she had to.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
My Bachelor pick is like so good. I have two
Andrew Firestone because I just love being around him and
watching him and I have the same I love being
around and watching just this person operate life, Bob Guinea.
I think those two coming back for a season would
just be good television, and because I like them as humans.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
If I had to pick Bachelor again, I would be
not in a dreamland, it would be right here in
solid reality, and it would be Chris Sols. I just
really want him to have his happily ever after, and
now that he's sober, like he might just bet. He's
just such a different place in life. I just really
feel like that man needs to be a father and
(03:18):
a husband because he'll be so good at it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That has a great choice. I didn't even think about that,
but yeah, Chris Soles coming back, it would be a
lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
There's a sweetness about him too.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Next question, if you could change the ending of any
season of The Bachelor or The Bachelorette, which one would
you choose and tell us the outcome you wish had happened.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
M you go first.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm gonna say Gen season. I think it was the
worst too. Okay, Yeah, I think it was the worst
ending to a season we've ever seen, and I think
it was. I think we're seeing the ramifications of how
that season ended now with the Bachelorette not coming back
and people kind of checking out. I think Jen had
(04:05):
a very poor cast, So how I wish that season
would have ended. Well, she would have given the peace
sign to all of them, said you ain't worthy, I'm out.
We'll talk later, And that's how it would have ended
in my mind, and I would have loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So when you get annulment, apparently you can put fraud
as a reason for getting an annulment. I just know
this from a Renee zelig Er checked off that box
when she was getting divorced from Kenny Chesney. They were
only married for like six weeks, and I feel like
that's Jen. She experienced fraud.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, it just I think looking back, there's no
other seasons like seasons have had dramatic endings, right. We
think about the ri situation, we think about the Peter
Webber season, but those made like I know, it seems
drama like, dramatic and chaotic, but they make sense on
how it happened. They make sense on that they good people,
We're involved, feelings were mixed up, a lot of chaos.
(05:05):
You know what, great television, We'll call it good gen
season felt like just a letdown at every level, and
then continued to be post with the finale. So I
would say that season, for sure, out of all the seasons,
would be the one I would change.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, good, good answers all.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Right, next question, if you could remove one thing from
the show that you think negatively impacts the relationships, what
would it be?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
This is a good question.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I was gonna say tell All's, but then again, like
we just talked to Zachary Reality and he loves tell Alls,
So yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
See, like I fantasy suites, as we talked about in
our previous episode of the Regist Record with Gabby el Nikki,
is that like they're called disappointment week or you could
call them like regret week or whatever. But I do
feel like what you get from a fantasy suite, which
is a for the first time, is so vital. Yeah,
(06:04):
how can you do it in a way that's not
so sloppy?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It doesn't have to be sloppy. I don't think there's
I think that is up to the contestants, and so
we'd have to say like that that you can't change
that part of the show. I will say this, this
would be my answer. The thing that brings no drama
to the show, really, it brings nothing interesting to me
from the show, and it just feels unhealthy at every level.
Is the amount of exposure or how the show allows
(06:30):
others to watch, like the one on one relationships, meaning
like especially when there's kissing involved, there's typically like people watching,
sitting on a couch watching and they've set that up
so that they can see it. And I would just
say we could get rid of that on the show.
It doesn't really ever make a storyline and it's more
just awkward and it's it's hard to move forward when
(06:53):
you're seeing like the front Runner doing that with the lead.
So I would just get that up. It just it's
a non factor.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's good. That's a good answer, all right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
This next question is fun. I love this one.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It says if the show brought back a second chance
season for former contestants to find love again, who would
you be interested in being a part of it?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That sounds paradise no.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But if if they chose a lead in all of
the contestants that came back.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
We're on the show again. Let's say that.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's the they just redid the entire show again with the.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Same contestants that stand out to you. Yeah, a few
contestants that stand out to you.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
From the past.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
From the past, who would you want to see come.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Back as part of a main cast on one of
the main shows not Paradise.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yes, I think I can think of a few. Peter Weber,
Chris Sols you just mentioned would love. I would love
to see the two of them coming back. A lot
of the women.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Jen, I'd want to see Jen Jen.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Would come back. I think that'd be great. As you mentioned,
like a Caitlin Bristow would be an amazing cast member
because we still don't have any confirmation in this world
on where she stands romantically. She could be single, she
could be single. Jason Tarctick, I think would be great
to throw in there, just because he's single and he
(08:12):
comes to mind, and he was a, you know, a
big character during those seasons. A lot of the people
from the show, and it would be interesting to do
a little research and find out, like who is still
single that came off this show all.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Star Cast is basically like your is your paradise on
on steroids? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Those are good, Those are good answers Rachel.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, she'd be a top for us, Rachel. Reki on
another season would just be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She's great TV and she's so lovable.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All right. Next question, I think this is kind of fun.
Would you be open to a version of The Bachelor
slash the Bachelorette where no one gets eliminated until the
very end, forcing the lead to really get to know everyone.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, I would not be okay with that, but I
would like there to be more stages where it's like, Okay,
we're going to do the first night and we're going
to eliminate anybody that I feel like nothing with, and
then I'm going to have this group of twenty and
I'm going to get to know them for three weeks,
and then I'll narrow it down to ten, and then
from ten, I'll go to four three weeks after that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't think i'd be okay with it because I
think the way it works now works, it's very it's
very rare that somebody that's eliminating, like week two, the
lead is like, I wish I wouldn't have, I know, right,
and so it all kind of plays its way itself
out the way it should over time. I mean, I'm
(09:56):
sure there's some like I wish she would have been
there or he would have been there another week, but
it's very rare that you're like, can I bring that
person back from week two just to see if there's something?
So I like the way it is. I don't think
it needs a change.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're right, Ben, and this is coming from you in
the lead perspective. I guess I'm just thinking about ways
we can mix up the show, but it probably would
actually be more boring that way, because it would feel
like less consequence if there wasn't an elimination every week.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Next question, if you could choose one controversial moment from
the show to revisit in a reunion style special, which
one would you choose and why?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I would love to see Sean Loh and Nick Vile
sit on a couch together again and just start talking
about the situation that happened on Caitlin season, because I
know the two of them.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Would still got Sean low.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Oh, Shan bou Sorry, Shaan Booth and Nick to sit
down again because I know the two of them would
still like talk about it, like they would both be
willing to like revisit it and hash it out a
little bit, and I think it wouldn't be like a
pretty perfect outcome. I also would say this, I would
(11:08):
love if Jen could have a second chance on the
couch with Devin Ough just like now without reairing that moment,
where they could reair it again the emotions are gone
and just see what happens.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yes, good answers. Okay, I'm thinking Nick with Josh Murray
because that would be a really funny showdown as well,
because they had it on TV, and I just think
in real life they also just do not want to
be in the same room together. And then the ultimate
red Couch moment whatever was with Vienna and Jake Palvaka,
(11:46):
and I would love to just see if they still
hate each other too.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That'd be good.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
These are good ones. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Next question, if you could have a conversation with your
younger self before going on the show, what would you
tell yourself.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I would tell myself pretty much, do exactly what you did,
maybe close your mouth just for a few more moments,
just like, say a couple few less dumb things in
the interview room, but besides that, all the big things.
Do those again.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I actually I'm going to add to the last question
that I didn't think of. I would love to see
Ashley and Kelsey on a couch. That would still be good.
It would be good. I would say, have more fun,
like lighten up a little bit, loosen up, enjoy it,
(12:37):
soak it in, have more fun with it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Next question, do you think a bachelor or bachelorette should
be allowed to look at social media during the process?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Why or why not?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't have a strong opinion on this. You think yes, yes,
you think the social media tells you that much about somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I think it's tells you more than what you see
on the show, and I think it would help. I
think it would help. I don't think it would change
the elimination process, but I think it would help the
clarity of everybody. If you had that kind of insight
on what was being shared before, I think it would
have answered a lot of questions. And I think the
(13:19):
drama could still exist. But I would love to see
like a little part of an episode at like week
five where the lead sits down with like an investigator
and they go through social media and like, what do
you who do you want to look up? Here's you
get four people out of your eight look up four
of them. Who do you want to look up? And
what do you want to find? I think it would.
I think it would be a fine element.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Okay, I don't want to too my own horn, but like,
I feel like I'm pretty authentic to myself on social media,
which is probably why I'm like, I don't know if
it would make a difference, but yeah, you're right, Like
it could tell you a lot about somebody, especially when
you're in the bubble.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Next question is do you think Bachelor in Paradise is
a healthier environment for finding love compared to the main show.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I do because you are more in a real life,
living environment. You're not getting just fantasy dates and just
time to be on your best behavior. This person is
watching you just be for up to twenty five days,
and you have so much more time to talk to them,
(14:30):
and so much more off camera time to talk to them,
Like you could talk for up to sixteen seventeen hours
a day. You get to know somebody so well, which
is why I think that you see the more successful
couples coming from Menha.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't really have an opinion. I've never really been
so I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, that's a hard one for Ben to Ben sir, Okay,
we're going to end on this question super blunt. This
question is from Emily. She says, be honest, do you
think this is a dying franchise?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It matters? I mean, I think there's it matters what
you mean by dying. Do I believe that the show
is on a path to probably throwing up the white flag? Yes?
Do I believe it has to be. No, because I
don't think it's dying in compared compared to other shows
that are on network cable television. I think it's hitting
a really rough patch. I think they need to spark
(15:23):
it up a little bit. I do believe there's still
life there, and I think there's enough interest in kind
of that like following to make this a very healthy
network show. But I do believe changes will have to
be made in a way that makes it a little
more relevant, a little more exciting, a little more more
(15:45):
talked about. And so I think there's two sides to that.
I do think that we're on the fringe of the
show not getting renewed, but I don't believe that will
be the end of it, If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I pretty much believe and have believed for a while
with the spark that I got from Gary season and
Joey's season, aside that it probably seems to be better
suited on something like Hulu. You know, ABC Disney owns Hulu.
I think that people would maybe want to see it
in a binge format, and I think that they do
(16:25):
need to tweak some of it because some episodes really
drag on The two hour format might be a little
bit antiquated these days. I think that they need to
focus more on one on one dates and less on
group dates, especially group date activities. Is there If there's
good drama from you know, the cocktail portion, that's always
fun to watch. I think if they added an element
(16:47):
of realism there would be that would be good, whether
that's like going to hometown's earlier, getting to see people,
like kind of like what they do with Meridith for
a site where they have to go, and like kind
of they have regular life together. That would be interesting.
I guess I do that in Love is Blind as well.
I think that there needs to be a more interactive
way to choose the lead. I think that they need
(17:08):
to listen to the fans more. And if that's like
a nationwide Dancing with the Stars like Pole, that would
be really cool. But yeah, something needs to be just
twisted a bit to make it a little bit more relevant.
But I think that could go on for quite some time,
just maybe not on ABC Monday nights.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So to answer the question, do you believe it's dying?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Uh No, I don't think it is dying. I think
it needs to be reiterated.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So you think it's you think at some level it's
going to exist for the next five ten years.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I think it's hard to imagine a modern television situation
where the Bachelor's not included in it. It's such a staple.
I don't think it's going to leave. No, I don't
think it's gonna leave. I think it's gonna be like
reborn in a way.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's the final question today. We're going to continue to
answer these questions as we go throughout the year. It's
obviously we're coming up a few weeks away from the
off season, which is where we get to talk to
past contestants, have new guests go through Bachelor headlines. We're
also gonna do some questions and answers with you all.
We enjoy the off season for those elements, and we
hope that you stick around for that. This is an
(18:17):
exciting time in the Bachelor world because we're coming down
to the final weeks of Grant season of The Bachelor.
Make sure you tune in next week and this week
as we break down every episode from the telaws to
the final moments. But until next time, I've been Ben, I've.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Been Ashley Sea.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
With I our radio. This is the almost SAMEOS podcast.
Today we are trying something new, not trying doing something new.
This is almost same as podcast today, we are doing
something new. We have taken in your questions. You've sent
us a bunch of questions. We're going to answer them
today because they're some of these questions could be answered
(00:25):
by both Ashley and myself. Our producer Hannah is jumping
on to ask us these questions that she feels our
most juicy or interesting, and then Ashley and I will
both answer them, or one of us will answer them.
This is exciting. Thank you for sending in these questions.
Please don't stop doing that. With that, I'm going to
(00:46):
introduce Ashley and Hannah. Come on in.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hey guys, we have twenty six questions in front of us.
I don't even want to take a look at them.
I just want Hanah to throw out what she thinks
is the most interesting to both Ben and I. Let's
do it.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
There are a lot of questions.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We got a lot of good ones, but I'm going
to start us off with this question. It reads, if
you could choose any former bachelor or Bachelorette to come
back and.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Be the lead again. Who would it be and why.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I'll go first? So there's a couple side questions that
I have for this. Does this person have a significant
other now? Or is if this is like a.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Dream land, dreamland does not matter?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Okay, Well, in a dream land, I think I'd still
want Caitlin Bristow to be the lead again because she
is so entertaining. Even if she had the most boring
cast ever, she would make a great TV show. And
(01:48):
of course she didn't find her happily ever effort through
the actual show, so I think she would be worthy
of getting another chance.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Ben, I would have to say Caitlyn Bristow as well.
I'm biased they so I'll try to pick somebody other
than Caitlin. I think Andy Dorfman season was fun to watch,
and desire A you Know was a good one as well.
Like those two stand out to me as iconic seasons.
(02:15):
I'm surprised you didn't say Emily Maynard.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
In my head already had two seasons. I'm not sure why.
I think it's because she won Brad season and we
never see the winner end up becoming the lead, So
in my head she had to.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
My Bachelor pick is like so good. I have two
Andrew Firestone because I just love being around him and
watching him and I have the same I love being
around and watching just this person operate life, Bob Guinea.
I think those two coming back for a season would
just be good television, and because I like them as humans.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
If I had to pick Bachelor again, I would be
not in a dreamland, it would be right here in
solid reality, and it would be Chris Sols. I just
really want him to have his happily ever after, and
now that he's sober, like he might just bet. He's
just such a different place in life. I just really
feel like that man needs to be a father and
(03:18):
a husband because he'll be so good at it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
That has a great choice. I didn't even think about that,
but yeah, Chris Soles coming back, it would be a
lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
There's a sweetness about him too.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Next question, if you could change the ending of any
season of The Bachelor or The Bachelorette, which one would
you choose and tell us the outcome you wish had happened.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
M you go first.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm gonna say Gen season. I think it was the
worst too. Okay, Yeah, I think it was the worst
ending to a season we've ever seen, and I think
it was. I think we're seeing the ramifications of how
that season ended now with the Bachelorette not coming back
and people kind of checking out. I think Jen had
(04:05):
a very poor cast, So how I wish that season
would have ended. Well, she would have given the peace
sign to all of them, said you ain't worthy, I'm out.
We'll talk later, And that's how it would have ended
in my mind, and I would have loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So when you get annulment, apparently you can put fraud
as a reason for getting an annulment. I just know
this from a Renee zelig Er checked off that box
when she was getting divorced from Kenny Chesney. They were
only married for like six weeks, and I feel like
that's Jen. She experienced fraud.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, it just I think looking back, there's no
other seasons like seasons have had dramatic endings, right. We
think about the ri situation, we think about the Peter
Webber season, but those made like I know, it seems
drama like, dramatic and chaotic, but they make sense on
how it happened. They make sense on that they good people,
We're involved, feelings were mixed up, a lot of chaos.
(05:05):
You know what, great television, We'll call it good gen
season felt like just a letdown at every level, and
then continued to be post with the finale. So I
would say that season, for sure, out of all the seasons,
would be the one I would change.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, good, good answers all.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Right, next question, if you could remove one thing from
the show that you think negatively impacts the relationships, what
would it be?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
This is a good question.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I was gonna say tell All's, but then again, like
we just talked to Zachary Reality and he loves tell Alls,
So yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
See, like I fantasy suites, as we talked about in
our previous episode of the Regist Record with Gabby el Nikki,
is that like they're called disappointment week or you could
call them like regret week or whatever. But I do
feel like what you get from a fantasy suite, which
is a for the first time, is so vital. Yeah,
(06:04):
how can you do it in a way that's not
so sloppy?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
It doesn't have to be sloppy. I don't think there's
I think that is up to the contestants, and so
we'd have to say like that that you can't change
that part of the show. I will say this, this
would be my answer. The thing that brings no drama
to the show, really, it brings nothing interesting to me
from the show, and it just feels unhealthy at every level.
Is the amount of exposure or how the show allows
(06:30):
others to watch, like the one on one relationships, meaning
like especially when there's kissing involved, there's typically like people watching,
sitting on a couch watching and they've set that up
so that they can see it. And I would just
say we could get rid of that on the show.
It doesn't really ever make a storyline and it's more
just awkward and it's it's hard to move forward when
(06:53):
you're seeing like the front Runner doing that with the lead.
So I would just get that up. It just it's
a non factor.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's good. That's a good answer, all right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
This next question is fun. I love this one.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It says if the show brought back a second chance
season for former contestants to find love again, who would
you be interested in being a part of it?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That sounds paradise no.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But if if they chose a lead in all of
the contestants that came back.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
We're on the show again. Let's say that.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It's the they just redid the entire show again with the.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Same contestants that stand out to you. Yeah, a few
contestants that stand out to you.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
From the past.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
From the past, who would you want to see come.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Back as part of a main cast on one of
the main shows not Paradise.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yes, I think I can think of a few. Peter Weber,
Chris Sols you just mentioned would love. I would love
to see the two of them coming back. A lot
of the women.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Jen, I'd want to see Jen Jen.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Would come back. I think that'd be great. As you mentioned,
like a Caitlin Bristow would be an amazing cast member
because we still don't have any confirmation in this world
on where she stands romantically. She could be single, she
could be single. Jason Tarctick, I think would be great
to throw in there, just because he's single and he
(08:12):
comes to mind, and he was a, you know, a
big character during those seasons. A lot of the people
from the show, and it would be interesting to do
a little research and find out, like who is still
single that came off this show all.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Star Cast is basically like your is your paradise on
on steroids? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Those are good, Those are good answers Rachel.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, she'd be a top for us, Rachel. Reki on
another season would just be fantastic.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
She's great TV and she's so lovable.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
All right. Next question, I think this is kind of fun.
Would you be open to a version of The Bachelor
slash the Bachelorette where no one gets eliminated until the
very end, forcing the lead to really get to know everyone.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, I would not be okay with that, but I
would like there to be more stages where it's like, Okay,
we're going to do the first night and we're going
to eliminate anybody that I feel like nothing with, and
then I'm going to have this group of twenty and
I'm going to get to know them for three weeks,
and then I'll narrow it down to ten, and then
from ten, I'll go to four three weeks after that.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I don't think i'd be okay with it because I
think the way it works now works, it's very it's
very rare that somebody that's eliminating, like week two, the
lead is like, I wish I wouldn't have, I know, right,
and so it all kind of plays its way itself
out the way it should over time. I mean, I'm
(09:56):
sure there's some like I wish she would have been
there or he would have been there another week, but
it's very rare that you're like, can I bring that
person back from week two just to see if there's something?
So I like the way it is. I don't think
it needs a change.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You're right, Ben, and this is coming from you in
the lead perspective. I guess I'm just thinking about ways
we can mix up the show, but it probably would
actually be more boring that way, because it would feel
like less consequence if there wasn't an elimination every week.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Next question, if you could choose one controversial moment from
the show to revisit in a reunion style special, which
one would you choose and why?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I would love to see Sean Loh and Nick Vile
sit on a couch together again and just start talking
about the situation that happened on Caitlin season, because I
know the two of them.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Would still got Sean low.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Oh, Shan bou Sorry, Shaan Booth and Nick to sit
down again because I know the two of them would
still like talk about it, like they would both be
willing to like revisit it and hash it out a
little bit, and I think it wouldn't be like a
pretty perfect outcome. I also would say this, I would
(11:08):
love if Jen could have a second chance on the
couch with Devin Ough just like now without reairing that moment,
where they could reair it again the emotions are gone
and just see what happens.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yes, good answers. Okay, I'm thinking Nick with Josh Murray
because that would be a really funny showdown as well,
because they had it on TV, and I just think
in real life they also just do not want to
be in the same room together. And then the ultimate
red Couch moment whatever was with Vienna and Jake Palvaka,
(11:46):
and I would love to just see if they still
hate each other too.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That'd be good.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
These are good ones. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Next question, if you could have a conversation with your
younger self before going on the show, what would you
tell yourself.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I would tell myself pretty much, do exactly what you did,
maybe close your mouth just for a few more moments,
just like, say a couple few less dumb things in
the interview room, but besides that, all the big things.
Do those again.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I actually I'm going to add to the last question
that I didn't think of. I would love to see
Ashley and Kelsey on a couch. That would still be good.
It would be good. I would say, have more fun,
like lighten up a little bit, loosen up, enjoy it,
(12:37):
soak it in, have more fun with it.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Next question, do you think a bachelor or bachelorette should
be allowed to look at social media during the process?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Why or why not?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't have a strong opinion on this. You think yes, yes,
you think the social media tells you that much about somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I think it's tells you more than what you see
on the show, and I think it would help. I
think it would help. I don't think it would change
the elimination process, but I think it would help the
clarity of everybody. If you had that kind of insight
on what was being shared before, I think it would
have answered a lot of questions. And I think the
(13:19):
drama could still exist. But I would love to see
like a little part of an episode at like week
five where the lead sits down with like an investigator
and they go through social media and like, what do
you who do you want to look up? Here's you
get four people out of your eight look up four
of them. Who do you want to look up? And
what do you want to find? I think it would.
I think it would be a fine element.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Okay, I don't want to too my own horn, but like,
I feel like I'm pretty authentic to myself on social media,
which is probably why I'm like, I don't know if
it would make a difference, but yeah, you're right, Like
it could tell you a lot about somebody, especially when
you're in the bubble.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Next question is do you think Bachelor in Paradise is
a healthier environment for finding love compared to the main show.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I do because you are more in a real life,
living environment. You're not getting just fantasy dates and just
time to be on your best behavior. This person is
watching you just be for up to twenty five days,
and you have so much more time to talk to them,
(14:30):
and so much more off camera time to talk to them,
Like you could talk for up to sixteen seventeen hours
a day. You get to know somebody so well, which
is why I think that you see the more successful
couples coming from Menha.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't really have an opinion. I've never really been
so I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, that's a hard one for Ben to Ben sir, Okay,
we're going to end on this question super blunt. This
question is from Emily. She says, be honest, do you
think this is a dying franchise?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It matters? I mean, I think there's it matters what
you mean by dying. Do I believe that the show
is on a path to probably throwing up the white flag? Yes?
Do I believe it has to be. No, because I
don't think it's dying in compared compared to other shows
that are on network cable television. I think it's hitting
a really rough patch. I think they need to spark
(15:23):
it up a little bit. I do believe there's still
life there, and I think there's enough interest in kind
of that like following to make this a very healthy
network show. But I do believe changes will have to
be made in a way that makes it a little
more relevant, a little more exciting, a little more more
(15:45):
talked about. And so I think there's two sides to that.
I do think that we're on the fringe of the
show not getting renewed, but I don't believe that will
be the end of it, If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I pretty much believe and have believed for a while
with the spark that I got from Gary season and
Joey's season, aside that it probably seems to be better
suited on something like Hulu. You know, ABC Disney owns Hulu.
I think that people would maybe want to see it
in a binge format, and I think that they do
(16:25):
need to tweak some of it because some episodes really
drag on The two hour format might be a little
bit antiquated these days. I think that they need to
focus more on one on one dates and less on
group dates, especially group date activities. Is there If there's
good drama from you know, the cocktail portion, that's always
fun to watch. I think if they added an element
(16:47):
of realism there would be that would be good, whether
that's like going to hometown's earlier, getting to see people,
like kind of like what they do with Meridith for
a site where they have to go, and like kind
of they have regular life together. That would be interesting.
I guess I do that in Love is Blind as well.
I think that there needs to be a more interactive
way to choose the lead. I think that they need
(17:08):
to listen to the fans more. And if that's like
a nationwide Dancing with the Stars like Pole, that would
be really cool. But yeah, something needs to be just
twisted a bit to make it a little bit more relevant.
But I think that could go on for quite some time,
just maybe not on ABC Monday nights.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
So to answer the question, do you believe it's dying?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Uh No, I don't think it is dying. I think
it needs to be reiterated.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
So you think it's you think at some level it's
going to exist for the next five ten years.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I think it's hard to imagine a modern television situation
where the Bachelor's not included in it. It's such a staple.
I don't think it's going to leave. No, I don't
think it's gonna leave. I think it's gonna be like
reborn in a way.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's the final question today. We're going to continue to
answer these questions as we go throughout the year. It's
obviously we're coming up a few weeks away from the
off season, which is where we get to talk to
past contestants, have new guests go through Bachelor headlines. We're
also gonna do some questions and answers with you all.
We enjoy the off season for those elements, and we
hope that you stick around for that. This is an
(18:17):
exciting time in the Bachelor world because we're coming down
to the final weeks of Grant season of The Bachelor.
Make sure you tune in next week and this week
as we break down every episode from the telaws to
the final moments. But until next time, I've been Ben, I've.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
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