As part of this episode's Tittle Tattle, Bobby talks about his Heisman pick this year and some of the most notable Heisman snubs of the past. The guys went to UCF and had a chance to sit down with head coach Gus Malzahn to talk about his coaching journey, including his time at Auburn and the 'Kick Six' game, and his expectations as they play their first season in the Big 12. Plus, QB John Rhys Plumlee talks about being a two-sport athlete at a major program and why a conversation with coach Malzahn in high school eventually led to his transfer to UCF from Ole Miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm doing the show from Italy. Wow, are we all
in Italy?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Texas?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's wherever you want to be? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I am literally I think in Italy right now? Is
this is people that have this. We recorded this before
we left, and so right now I'm in Italy.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But like, mentally I would like to be in Italy.
I think I'm having a good time right now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, for sure you are. Yeah. Have you eaten a lot?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
A lot?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And I told myself before I went, I wasn't gonna overreat,
but I over read.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
As soon as I landed, of course, man said, let
me get pizza.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Not only pizza, pasta costa, but had a lot of pasta.
And then I went to this one shop and they
had some some gelato there, and I was like, let
me just let me just get a small cup. I've
been back seven times. Is by the hotel Italian Ice? No,
that's just America different, that's in the American Ice. And
yet I don't know what it's going to be. Heity,
(01:15):
Why are you talking like that?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What do you mean? Like every time I go to
a shop, it's a game the boat. So yes, I
will be in Italy. Where are you going to be?
How people hear this? Probably on the golf course?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Dang.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, I'm doing a staycation because my kids are in school,
so I can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Kelvin, I will be on the beach in California.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That's good. Mike Texas Toxis read. What are you doing
your hands up for? Why are you doing that? I
guess he's saying, should we play golf together?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm sure if Reid wants to look like there was
some technical issue, Reid doesn't. No, don't make big gestures
while we're doing the show because I think something's wrong,
like behind the scenes, and reads throwing his hands up like,
what so problem?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
That's like when I was a lifeguard my first week,
I didn't know that you weren't supposed to I'm gonna
blow the whistle just for demonstration.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We gotta start the show anyway, go ahead, Okay, So
I went.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Everyone out of the water like break time, and everyone
freaked out because apparently that's the signal for distress.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And I'm I didn't know that for a long whistle.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
For a long whistle, long whistle means emergency, everyone all decks,
all hands on deck.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And so the whole pool freaked out, like.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Everyone jumped off their stance and everything, and I'm like,
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
They're like, well, what's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I'm like, no, I was telling everyone break time, everyone
out of the water, but a really long I got
in trouble.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well it's like read through his hands up and he's
like pointing at stuff, and I'm like, oh, got something
wrong exactly, but it said he's a goop.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Of golf o.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Man. I didn't realize that he was going to be here.
All right.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Coming up, we have UCF head coach Gus Malson, John
Rice Plumbly.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We went and hung out with them. We'll get to that.
Let's do the tittlehead of first.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
The tattle Townel.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
College football is in full of and we all love
the atmosphere. What's one place you haven't been to atmosphere
wise in college that you would like to go to.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I like to see the swamp being swampy.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You never been to the swamp? Never been to the swamp?
Been to LSU, Crazy Loud's Awesome, Death the Valley. I've
been to some decent atmospheres. The swamp probably is the one,
or maybe just because I'm an SEC guy, but like
to go to the to the Horseshoe, Ohio stay it
would be like, but then I'm but then I'm on
a rivalry game. But if it's just a general I
(03:30):
think that would be cool. But I just don't care.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Did you go to l s U to season play
Arkansas or no?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yes? Okay, yes, and it was fine. We gotta be bad'sosphad.
That's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Stupid Alabama would be cool, though I've been to Alabama before.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
What's that like?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's cool when they walk through at the beginning of
the place. We don't Alabama and it's cool and everybody's
up front, and it was we gotta be real bad
with that great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
See, it sounds like that's gonna be part of every
game you go through. It sucked all right.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Next question, Netflix, just a recent release documentary on Urban Ireland, Florida.
What is a drama filled sports memory that you would
like to see a documentary on.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think it will be fun to have a behind
the scenes look and have cameras in places like when
Lebron was making his decision, the decision, like to see
who was telling him what what to do leave Cleveland,
what he was requesting from Cleveland and they couldn't give them.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
So I think that's fun.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think when Peyton Mannon became a free agent, because
that was crazy because he was flying all these places.
They were like Peyton Manning's landed here.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That was fun.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Brett Favre coming back eight times, like to see this
the nuttiness that happens there, that whole saga. What's happening
now with college football realignment and the conversations that are
having to have now all the Pac twelve teams that
were like going to the Big twelve or Big ten,
which they did before they went to the Big twelve,
(04:54):
and the teams that have no home or acc I
think that's all. There's a lot, and I think because
cameras are more readily available and everybody's recording everything we
make it to see some of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But that would be fun, Eddie, what comes to mind
for you?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I was thinking of, you know, Magic Johnson just kind
of there's the movie, the Winning Time Show or whatever
where you kind of get an idea of how hard
he parted.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But I would have liked to like see Magic Johnson
reality show.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
And stories from him, because I've never heard him say like,
oh yeah, I went hard. He never really just addresses that,
but people tell the stories. I'd like to hear it
from him, like what did you do?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Man? How hard did you go when you.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Got to La Magic's Magic sex capaide? I mean, dude,
you know he went hard? Yeah, Magic Johnson, Magic Magic Johnson.
It's him and another guy named Johnson, Magic's Johnson.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
The top three Heisman favorite accord in the DraftKings of
Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels and Quinn Ewers. If you're putting
your money down, you're taking one of those three or
the field.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, I'd probably take the field. If wait, so I
get so hold on so I can pick one of
them or the.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Field one of them or or one of those of
those three. So it's those three versus the field. Yes,
that makes it different when the when these preseason like
whatever predictions come out, how accurate are they?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
They're usually except for Spencer Rattler, which he was like
the number one favorite to get drafted first and that
one was tough. Okay, and they're always but those guys
are always in the mix. I should say theyn't always
win it. I would go with the field just because
it's the numbers thing. But I think that Caleb Williams,
if he has a good year, he'll win it. He's
propped up to win it in every way. But I
would take the field. I mean, you have the quorum
from Michigan, who's a running back. If they win the
(06:41):
national championship. A lot of it's gonna depend on, too,
how good the teams are that quarterback from Notre Dame
Hartman as a shot. If they're good, it's still Caleb
Williams is the guy put the money on. They want
them to win. If everybody's even Kayler, Williams wins all right.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Next, speaking of the Heisman, when I say Heisman snub,
who's the first person you think of.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Darren McFadden, the ever should never won the Heisman he got.
He was finished second twice, didn't even finished the question.
I finished twice in Heisman two years in a row.
It's so stupid. He also Troy Smith shouldn't shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Have Troy Smith. I forgot about him.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So the one most people probably says paid Manny and
Charles Wooson won because Charles Woodson was playing defense, was
returning upon That's.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
A big one. That's a big one over mcfatten. I
think bones, but I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I get it. Mcfan's your dude, I get it, dude,
any one of the cowboys. So he was all right.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
He ended up.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
He did know twice Adrian Peterson in two thousand and four,
Matt Liner wanted he just was aalized because he was
a freshman and no freshman had done that yet. They
ended up doing that later in Freshman l Menzel Money
money Man ended winning its freshman Matt Leonard Matt Liner, Right,
there's no D in his name, Yeah, but it's pronounced
(07:51):
Matt Leonard.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Say his name Matt Liner. See sounds like a D.
Say his name Matt Liner Liner. See.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Now you guys are none it, Matt Lionert. It's not said,
don't be a douche. All right, all right, that's tittle tattle.
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(09:18):
All Right, our sit down with Gus mals On. We're
sitting outside of a golf club. We played golf all
day with Gus, coached males on some and so we're
all just chilling at golf clothes. He coached Cam Newton
at Auburn, his offensive court ender twenty ten. He also
had Nick Marshall Trey Mason, the re Heisman finalists. He
took an Auburn team who didn't win a single let
SEC game in twenty twelve and let him to do an
(09:39):
SEC championship and an appearance in the BCS Championship at
twenty fourteen. He's got a national cham he's got a championship.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We saw the trophy. It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, this is our dude too, because he was he's
a Texas guy. Joh, I'm a Texas dude. And then
he coached in Arkansas and he's an Arkansas guy though.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's right. He's definitely an.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Arkansas, but he was born he was born in ten
much mouch as born in Kansas like in Irvin Took.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I was born there for nine days. Do you remember it. Yeah.
He's been the coach at you at u c F
since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Innovative, offensive guy and you see f in the Big
twelve this year. You can follow a coach Malason on
Twitter at coach Gus Malson.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Here you go, coach.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'd like to start by saying that I paid eight
hundred dollars today for different nil things. I didn't want
a dang thing we did every eight hundred. I paid
eight hundred dollars for for like catching punts. I got
beat up knees I got I didn't want to adore
for I didn't want a single door.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I didn't want half off a top golf.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Yeah. Well, I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You were impression. Thank you? Okay, yes, you come through.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
I'm at the eighteenth hole. I was with each group.
You know, you had scratches on your knees. You just
got through.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Catching like four out of five punts.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Sure, then you actually hit one that was one of
the top shots today.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So really we should have you should have won something,
celebrated me with something.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Yes, we really should have. We dropped the ball on
that one.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So that we're just ending into that
where just leave it.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's okay, all right, best hundred bucks in the whole couple.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, okay. Coach, this job that you have is
so much politician because it's important. There are a lot
of people here and and look, I've never been shy
about I'm a massive fan and I'm a doner at
the University of Arkansas, and I see how that happens
at a different level because they're extra nice to me
because now in my life I have money. I mean,
that's honestly the truth. But you need money and that's
(11:25):
why we're here. So you're having to do basically be
a politician. How much has that changed in your life
as a coach.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yeah, we're in a new age of college football right now,
probably the last two years with a one time transfer
the collectives in IL and now it's just about being
competitive and event like this is just you know, that's
the new age what we have to do. You know,
we're a young school, so we don't have all the
older boosters that have great money. You pick up the
phone and you call you know, we're it's kind of
(11:51):
strengthen numbers and events like this is really our livelihood
right now. I think today went great. I think everybody
had a good time. It really means a lot to
us that you took the time to be here. It's
a really big deal for us. And you know, I
think our players did a really good job, and I
think most.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Of the people had a good time.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I didn't want a freaking door prize though.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
How good of a deal was it that I was here?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Well I bragged on you.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Yeah, well we got Bobby Bone's one of my Arkansas
guys here, and everybody thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah, what mortgage is that?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Paying nothing?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
A couple of words from coach Miles.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
On I think they pad it into the bag. Everybody
shook your hand.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You know, you got to move into the big twelve
and this is the year for that. Did you kind
of see that coming when you came here and you
stayed here, because obviously you can go wherever you want
you want national championship?
Speaker 8 (12:31):
Yeah, So Terry Mihawger was my ide at Arkansas State.
You know, in twenty twelve, and so when he got
the job here and he hired me, I knew that
we were going to be in a poor five. I
just didn't know what's gonna be the Big twelve, but
I thought that everything trajectory was.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
I think the Big twelve really fits us.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
You know, we're the only school in the state of
Florida in the Big Twelve. I think it's great for recruiting,
and you know, it's a really good conference. It's really
deep from top to bottom, and you know, we're we're
blessed to be a part of it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
You're still young enough to late to the players, but
you're old enough to relate to their parents. You're young
enough to understand and be invested involved in NIL, but
you're also old enough to have been here fully in
before it all happened. Like you're at that perfect age
where you've seen it all shift. Did you ever feel like,
(13:17):
I don't know if I can do this? The whole
landscape is shane because again, you're you're just.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Not an old dude.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, I'm you know this college football ages and dog years. Okay,
so I'm fifty seven. I feel little older. You know,
I really think the teams that are going to be
successful in this new age is the teams and the
coaches that adapt. I mean, that's just what you have
to do, you know. And I think we're at a
school that really embraces that. I've got a young staff
around me that really helps me with that, and you know,
(13:44):
I'm embracing it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Coach.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
You know, during the games, you have the State troopers
with you. At the end of the game, how long
do they stay with you? Do you get to take
them home? Do they take you all the way to
the front they at any time?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I've always wondered that guy.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
You know, when I first are to come a head coach,
it kind of was a lock where you're like, why
are these guys around?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, when you have a play.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
Like the kick six, all right, and at the end
of the game, people are trying to tackle you and
they're like elbow like and they get you back.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
To the locker room.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It takes fifteen minutes.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
You're glad you have them, But I tell you it's
really neat. You get really close to those guys. They
travel with you, and you know they're really neat, you know,
to get to.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Know and they have badges and get you My security
guy has a badge. There's no where we can't get
just because he has a badge. He's a former DA officer,
and it doesn't matter. He's got a badge.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
When we can go in there, it's awesome. Which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
The kick six. Did you know the kicker might not
be able to make that kick? I mean, was there
a hey, this might not I mean, that play just
seemed to happen. Yeah, And the fact that there was
not a hold blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah. So they missed their starter, missed like two or
three field goals. They put their back up in. That's
a big moment.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
It was fifty six yards was blown in their face
and be honestly, I was thinking it could be a fake,
you know, but we just called time out. We moved
Chris Davis back't he was normally on the block.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That was the first time we did it. And I
just told our guys.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
I said, they've got two defensive guys at the wings.
The restaurant offensive line if it's short blocked those two
defensive lining So you know, halfway there, I saw it.
MS go the line of screamage. We're blocking those two guys.
I'm about the fifty yard line. They come by and
there was some good blocks, you know, and so Chris
Davis went by me. There's not a white shirt within
fifteen yards. So what do you do as a coach?
I'm looking for flags and then I didn't even see
(15:33):
him score, but I just went, wow, we just beat
them boys like that. It was kind of a real
surreal moment, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
One of the craziest sporty moments I've ever seen in
my life watching live. I wasn't there, but I bet
you there are so many people that claim they were there. Now,
how many people now go, coach, I was there, and
you know there's no chance they were there. You hear
a lot of yeah, there's no doubt. I bet people were, like,
I was there. It was one of the I wasn't there,
but I did watch it. You started coaching high school football.
You know, there are many ways to be at the
(16:00):
top of your profession. You know some of the guys
I know, uh, so they finished college, they go be
a GA, they stay in the college ranks, so they
go to the NFL. Your route was through high school.
Did you know when you went to coach high school
that my eventual goal is to be the head coach
of the major college program.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
No, not not at all.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
I mean, you know, I started out at Hughes High
School and I was just so blessed and happy to
be a coach. And I really wanted to win a
state championship. That's really you know what my whole mindset was.
And now I was hoping to maybe coach at a
Fort Smith's south side north side. You know, I'm from
Fort Smith, so I was real blessed.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Hughes.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
We went to state championship, we didn't want it, went
to Shiloh, we won a couple, went to Springdale. I
came in a really good time, we had great players.
And then I got a chance to go to Arkansas.
I mean like that was like a dream come true
for a guy from Fort Smith, Arkansas. And I played
for the Hogs for two years to walk on, and
so that really, you know, got me in college football.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Man, we wanted you to be the head coach.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
We wanted you, I know, you know comment, but we
wanted you to the head coach coach at you well,
I know, and he should. I'm just gonna say, you
don't got to say anything, but you done. You've done wrong, coach.
I'm gonna be on the record any think looking at me,
he's making no movement at all. I was gonna say,
I am on the records that coach Masin was done wrong.
That being said, coach, is there anything Do you ever
(17:15):
have a Eureka moment? At this point in your career
offensively everybody knows you as an offensive mind or genius
or whatever the term is. Do you ever go, oh,
this is something that I just discovered.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
I'll tell you what I think.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
To be on top of your game, you've got to
have that mindset, even if you believe in what you're doing.
You got to stay cutting edge and you got to
stay fresh. And that's what I try to do. And
obviously having good people around me helps. But you know,
it's all about players. If you've got good players, you
can be very creative.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
And you know, they give the coach way too much credit.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
I've been blessed to coach some of the better players
to play college football. I mean Derren McFadden, I mean
Felis Jones, Peyton Hillis, I mean my wife, Oh yeah,
put the Wildcat in that year and McFadden made it
Amos and I got a chance to Cam Newton.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I mean, you know that's that's some of the better players.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
To ever played college football.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
So you were as oc right, I was o s
when I had Cam. What's the difference in Cam? And
it could be physically because he is different. He was
different wherever he went. What was the difference in Cam?
Speaker 8 (18:15):
You know when I started coaching Cam, he wasn't the
same Cam Newton is today. I mean he was, you know,
trying to prove hisself. He had a chip on his
shoulder and just a great competitor.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, just a.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Freak athlete, but he can flat out for a great leader.
He will just to win a national championship. We weren't
really ultra talented around him, and it was just something
to be a part of and just one of those
special years.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Itch.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
What's your favorite time of day to play on Saturdays?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Because I mean I.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Wake up Saturday mornings, I'm like, oh my gosh, it's
almost eleventh Central time.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So do you like playing early and getting out of.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
The way or do you like longer I've been in
college football.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I want to play early because I'm one of those
guys that the later the game, I'm like a fan
I'm like, you know, I meet with the guys and
you know, I'll probably wear them out, but you know,
I like having their game early. And then in college football,
you don't have a lot of time to spend with
your family. So college coaches, if you play early, you
get to spend the rest of the Saturday afternoon and.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Even with your with your family. So I'm always rooting
for the day.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Now when you say earlier, when when does your day start?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
You know, it just depends, like if you play eleven
o'clock game.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Of course, you don't want to play eleven o'clock games,
so that's usually you're at the bottom of the conference. Okay,
but you know the two point thirty you know CBS
or Fox game like, that's really what you want, and
then you get a chance to spend a whole evening,
you know, with your family.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
All right, final five questions with coach Miles on going
into the Big twelve?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Do you do you scheme differently at all?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Are they and I know you guys probably have a
lot of analytics a politic guys going from the AU
Conference to the Big twelve? Are they just bigger players?
So do you have to play a different kind of
ball because you guys already look like you can compete
right now.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Yeah, So I think the big thing anytime you move
up power five commerce, you've got to be good and
deep up front. On both sides of football, the skill
a lot of times are very similar. And uh so
we've known about this for about a year and a half,
two years. We have an offensive line defensive line. I
think we have more quality depth and we've had maybe
since I've been coaching, and.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
That's really key.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
But in this league, you have score points and you've
got to play defense. So we were really focusing on
trying to play great defense and hopefully that will separate us.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
You've been in Florida for a little bit, now, have
you seen any gators around?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Why do you keep asking everybody about gators?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Everybody of water?
Speaker 8 (20:27):
We played the Gators. We played the Gators in a
bowl game game game, you know what. Yeah, so yeah,
And it did freak me out. The first time I
play at Interner Lock and Golf Course and you know,
I get near the.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Pond, I'm looking and every now and then, yeah, it's
a country club. A lot of gators out there.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Every now and then there's a few but they'll get
them out of there. But now, hey, you got to
be ready around the state. That's three questions. Uh So
I was talking with Jay Are. I think if a
player now on defense has all of a sudden he
grabs his hamstring because you guys' offense is moving too fast,
they want to slow the game down. I think that
should be a three play, not penalty.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But you have to sit out three plays minimal because
it drives me crazy when an offense is moving the
ball and you can put whatever high octane, what wide
open offense you want, but when they grab their hamstring
and they're back in at one play later, you got
to go out three plays.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
How do you feel about that rule change I'm suggesting, Yeah,
you know, I've been like that drives me crazy.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
I was one of the first no huddle guys back
when everybody was grapping a back. Now they're all doing it.
But anything like that, you know, free plays, I'd be
all for that. I'd be ready, you know, for the rest.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Of the game.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
I mean, I just think, you know, that's there's no
place in college football for that. And I think when
it comes to a common sense thing, and like you said,
the guy comes in the neck and he laid there
and they had to come out and get him.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know, I'm all for it. Well there was like
giggling too, and they come back in one play later.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Coach, you know.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
That drives off me. Cred Coach Bones and I.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
We've been working out a little bit and you know,
just for three or four days a week, no big deal.
But but you think, like with our physical you know,
structure right now, where we're at right now.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Do you think we can play for you today? Uh?
You know, Bobby cop punts.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Okay, that did and he dove be scratched.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
I told you earlier, so I think he you know,
when I'm thinking of Bobby like, he's pretty tough.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
You asked John John Rice about this. I caught a long,
deep pass from him at the facility.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yeah, long, Yeah, I would have to evaluate your probably
in in c but you know, I think you know,
we will at least give you a look.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, we at least give you a look.
Speaker 11 (22:43):
He said nothing, you said, That's what I'm talking about.
He literally said, nothing will give you a look. That's
him trying to get out of this interview. He wants
to finish the interview. Okay, last question, coach, what's it
like being rich?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because good ques really, because you you're a guy who
comes from humble beginning, and that is that's inspiration for
people everywhere, because it's not like you had a huge
trust fund and your your grandpa owned or president university
like you did it, and people like myself and other
people from small parts and small states look at you
as a if he can do it, there's a shot
(23:14):
I can do it. Like you can just go into
a store and buy anything. You look at taggs in
price sect anymore? To be honest, do you even look
at a price tag anymore?
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Every now and then?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Man, it depends. But I will say this. I mean,
I'm one blessed guy. There's a lot of high school
coaches a lot smarter than me that just hadn't been
put in the right situations, you know. And everywhere I've been,
I've had great players, I've had great coaches, great administrators.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
So you know, I'm just living a dream and I'm
gonna hire coach.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And but look, look, Hughes want the state championship game.
We can go through Shiloh, we can go to Springdale,
we can go through all the players that magically all
the schemes that magically happen, but the one consistent, the
one constant, the common denominator is you, and you have
to also it. And I know you're a humble guy,
but you are very inspired even to someone like myself,
because you show up, you have a good attitude, you
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work hard, and you motivate others to do the same.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
You know, my best friends in the world are Arkansas guys.
You know, I'm marks so guy and pretty neat for
me to be shitting here with you. To be honestly,
I've kept up with you a long time and you
know I have that connection Arkansas. But you know I'm
just proud to be a Arkansas high school football that's
just coaching college to be.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Honestly, we're rooting for you, guys. Coach, thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I only like three teams Arkansas whoever's playing Texas and
now you see I like it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I like it. Thanks coach. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
All right? Thanks to coach Malason.
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Now let's get to an interview with UCF quarterback John
Rice plumb Lee. So he was the quarterback at Old Miss,
transferred over. Grew up in Hattisburg, Mississippi. Four star recruit
coming out of high school, but before Old Miss, he
committed to Georgia and then chose Ole Miss and then
transferred to UCF to play football and baseball.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
He does it both.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He finished with thirty five hundred passing yards twenty three
touchdowns last year, with ten home runs.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
In eighteen stolen bases. Crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
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Speaker 1 (26:01):
Here he is John Wy's Plumbley.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
We're at the indoor facility for UCF.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Is there an official name that you got? All right?
What's the nickname of this place?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We just called it indoor, So you just go to
the indoor.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
The last time that I saw you, I guess you've
never known I was watching you. But the last first
time I saw you, I guess I was taking a
golf cart from the spring game here, okay to a
baseball game. Yeah, And like ESPN did this whole thing
about you, and they were like, watch this, he's gonna morph.
He's a transformer, taking his pads off and he's gonna
go to the baseball field.
Speaker 12 (26:31):
Well, when you started that story when you said on
a golf cart, in my mind immediately went, what have
I done on a golf course? That was bad that
you saw a video of? But I kind of like
that that version better.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Probably golf course you're probably Are you a good golfer though?
Are you that annoying as good at everything? No?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
I'm good for losing probably anywhere from eighteen to twenty
two golf balls around.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Do you play my average golf like you do baseball though?
Is that what it is? You're uh, yeah, I'm baseball
swinging at the golf ball for sure.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
So you planning two sports? Was that part of the
reason that you wanted to come to UCF?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, it was. It was a big piece. Talking to
coach maleson when I got in the transfer portal, he.
Speaker 12 (27:06):
Said, hey, man, you have the opportunity to come play
quarterback and I said, well, coach, I want to play
baseball too, and he said, hey, we'll make it happen.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But does he say that like we'll make it happen,
but really doesn't want to make it happen.
Speaker 12 (27:16):
So, going back to high school recruiting, he was at
Auburn recruiting me there and I told him, Hey, I
want to play quarterback, and he said, we'll come.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
On a visit.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
While I get to the visit, and he says, hey, man,
we don't want you to play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
We want you to play slot receiver.
Speaker 12 (27:30):
And he showed me all these things that he wanted
me to do, and I was basically like, thanks, but
no thanks. But like, he told me something that I
didn't want to hear, so I knew that it wasn't
He came back later in high school and said, hey,
we want you as quarterback. We're watching a film on
you now that hey, we want you, And I knew
he wasn't going to say something that was a lie
because he already told me something I didn't want to
hear once, right, and so he wasn't talking out of
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the side of his mouth. And so fast forward transfer
a portal. Hey I want to play quarterback, you can
do it. Hey, I want to play baseball, will make
it happen. So it was kind of one of those
things that not only did he stick by what he said,
he jumped through a bunch of bunch of hoops to
make it happen. Like we moved the spring game back
an hour and then the baseball game up an hour,
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so I have an opportunity to go from the game
to the spring game.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And so there was a lot of.
Speaker 12 (28:18):
Stuff that he did, communicating with the head baseball coach,
coach love Lady to just give me the opportunity to
do it because like at a lot of places like
that's impossible.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What I did the spring is like that's a no go.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That's where they tell you can do it and then
it's not actually the correct I like that he told,
you know at one point even though it wasn't the
same about being a receiver.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
In one of my books, I wrote about how.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Find somebody that can tell you suck, because then you
could trust them one day. That's right when they say
you do good, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 12 (28:43):
So when they say when they tell you when you're bad,
or tell you when he suck, or tell you something
that you don't want to hear, when they say something
that you do want to hear, you okay, you can take.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It to the bank. Yeah, like, yeah, he's been truthful.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
When you're doing that and you're playing the spring game
and you know you're going to go hop over onto
the baseball How do you stay focused because you've got
to individualize each of them, but also you're like a
real life human being. Yeah, how do you stay focused
on one when the other one's coming up in like
an hour and a half.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So I was.
Speaker 12 (29:10):
I was pretty good. Like went through the same routine
as I do every baseball game. We're playing Memphis, and
so you go through, you know, pregame hitting routine. You
take in and out and you do all these things
to get ready for the baseball game. And so my
first at bat of the game, I had a triple
and which kind of I think made a little bit cooler.
If I would have went up there and you know,
went over three to three strikeouts, it wouldn't have been
as cool as an ESPN.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Video, right, wou It wouldn't have been as fun.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
But later on in the game, probably around sixth seventh inning,
you start hearing the bounce house, like you start hearing
the speakers like they're playing loud music. And it's like
I was completely focused in on baseball, but now it's
like you're hearing the bounce house getting to go. You're
seeing all the people walking up and it's like, damn,
I'm kind of itching to get over there, right, And
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so the game kind of got out of hand. We
were up like ten to three or something like that,
and so I had I was up like third the
next inning, uh, and I said, we're winning pretty handily.
In the seventh, they can they can handle me for
nine outs and I can get over there. Because we
had a rain delay too, that kind of complicated the
whole thing, and so, uh, I'm up third. I go
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to talk coach level. I'm like, hey, what do you think.
He's like, I think that sounds good, right, And the
guy that was up that inning hit a bomb and
they got to let off for us hit a bomb.
So I was like, okay, yeah, we got this one
in the bag boys. And so next guy hit, I
hit a single. Call time, ran off, put my stuff back,
ran onto the golf cart. Kenny was right in there,
(30:38):
ready to rock, and we drove off.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
The move would have been the forest gun move where
you just keep running.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's right, just right running. Check up. Yes, So I
mean you're like that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You may be too young to get the reference here,
but like bo Jackson, Bo Jackson, Deon Sanders.
Speaker 12 (30:57):
Yeah, that's a that's a cool parison, right, Like, I mean, if.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
You got hurt at one of them, I'd be so
pissed by the other coach.
Speaker 12 (31:04):
Yeah, that would that would wouldn't make for as good
as the ESPN stork.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, it would be another bump in the road. That
would be would not be good.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
What do what do you?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
What do the teammates think, Like in baseball, is there
anyone else that's really good at football too? And they're
just like what is what is Jr?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Get to do that?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
On both teams, there's always guys that are like, dude,
I could I.
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Can play line on the baseball team. I can play
linebacker one. And I'm like, hey man, I'm looking at
you right now, and I look at the linebackers that
we have on the team.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
They would eat you for breakfast, like it would not
even be close.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
And then of course there's some football guys that are like,
oh yeah, I can hit homers.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
One because they did in high school too, probably yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 12 (31:41):
One of one of my buddies, Trent, wouldemore. Uh he
swears that he can. He swears he can hit I
took him over the baseball facility one day, and we
have these like a soft replica baseballs, and we have
a machine that kind of can throw you sliders, can
throw you a vender, can throw your high spin rate fastball.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Said all right, get get in there with them.
Speaker 12 (32:00):
And for the first like fifteen pitches, he's just swinging
in air.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right, But eventually he got it. He had like a
ground ball.
Speaker 12 (32:07):
Up the middle, and he's fired up.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I told you, told you, shout out Trent.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Your locker in the facility here is right by the
doors that go right into the stadium.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
That's right Why that spot.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It almost looks like it was purposeful that you're right
there by the entrance or the exit to go right
onto the field. And this place does get really loud
your first time here in that spot, would it sounds like.
Speaker 12 (32:32):
Uh, yeah, I didn't pick my locker spot.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I came in and my name was on locker.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
And so we come in for game days and it's
usually set up like our pads are in there, helmets
are in there, our game day loop which has our
pants undershirt, everything that you can imagine on there. Then
your cleats are sitting at the bottom of the locker
like it's all set up pristine, ready to rock, And
so for every game, I take a picture of it
just because I think it's so cool, right, Like I'm
living out my dream. And there's a locker that somebody
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took the time to set up for me. And so
I'm right beside the door and I my first game here.
I obviously never played in the Bounce House. I'd played
in Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Mississippi State, old mess like, I'd played
in some really really cool stadiums before, never play in
the Bounce House, And so uh look up some YouTube
(33:17):
videos kind of like it's like, Okay, this place is
kind of this place is kind of life.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
It's kind of lit, right.
Speaker 12 (33:22):
And so I'm sitting in my locker and have my
headphones on and I started to hear this kind of
like ruckus and like beside me, and I'm you know,
come off of one ear. And then I look to
my left and there's double doors where we go out
into the tunnel and they're just rattling just why, and
I'm like, Okay, somebody's trying to break in, Like what
what We're gonna have to fight somebody that's trying to
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get in this locker room.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right now.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
And I look around the locker room and it's like
nobody's bating an eye and it's just the stadium. They
started playing Zombie Nation. Oh, and everybody's jumping and it's
like it's like, holy cow. I take my headphones off
and it's like this place is un be leavl. And
we go out of the tunnel, of course, and then
Domination is still playing and you're walking down the tunnel
and it's the wind screens are like beating in on
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you and flashing strobe lights. You go out, the fire
goes up, smoke happens, and it's like, this is unbelievable,
this is this is sweet, this is out of a dream.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I watch Quarterback on Netflix, and again I only played
high school football and not even that good. Last I
played quarterback was like seventh grade.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
So you could star on the show, for sure? Yeah,
for sure. I got in the portal. You got in
the portal.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
O nobody wanted metal.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's really weird.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
If you look now, I'm still sitting in the portal waiting,
waiting for your opportunity.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
When these guys get hit, which we don't get here
on TV, but they get hit hard and they it's
like this, Oh you hear them?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Is that when you get hit? Is that what it
feels like? The oxygen just being sucked out of you
if you get nailed? Like what do they feel like
when you're like.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
A blindside shot or right up the middle somebody's blitzing
up the then on just there was.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
One play that comes to my mind from last year.
Speaker 12 (35:05):
I'm it's inside zoom to the left, so I'm about
to hand it off the bowser.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
This guy goes to attack. I think it was Bowser.
RJ goes to tackle RJ. So I pulled the ball.
I'm running the ball right. I run around the edge
and I get out there and I try to cut back.
Maybe it was a pass play. I can't remember. I
get tackled like from the back. I didn't see him. Boom.
I go down and I come up and it's.
Speaker 12 (35:29):
Like like I the breath was knocked out of me.
Right well, the next play fourth and one, like we
got to get this play and so I last year,
I relayed the call to the offensive line and so
I'm behind the offensive line like.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And they're all like, I'm usually a pretty really loud guy,
like you can hear me, and they're all like turning around,
like what the heck is going on right now?
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Thankfully, I don't know if they knew I got my breath,
knocked them out of me or not, but they called
time out coached it. We came to the sideline and
I was like water. I don't know if you ever
seen SpongeBob episode water.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And what I felt like.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Eventually got my breath back and then we got the
first down. It ended up being all right, But yeah,
when you take one when you don't see it coming,
like to anywhere around the body and around the rib cage, yeah,
you'll feel it for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
In baseball, let's say, if the Empire gets hit in
the neck or so, they catch will go talk or
they probably talk to somebody a few seconds to adjust
to being does that Is there a way that happens
to college football where somebody will kind of cover for
somebody else because again, you have a play clock.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
Yeah. The only thing that the only thing that comes
to my mind when you say that is like, what
offenses are in pace? Like like we're going fast and
usually go fast when you've got a defense on their
heels right, whether they're tired, whether they they're they're they're
in the wrong personnel, they don't want to be in.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You got them on your heel.
Speaker 12 (36:54):
So you're going fast, play after play after play, and
then all of a sudden, it's like clockwork, somebody catches
a hamstring cramp.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Right there, are gonna go down. Oh I'm hurting. Well,
they go to sideline and their back end the next play.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
I think that's I think that's the only equivalent of
like slowing down the pace of it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Which I think pulling for three plays if they do that,
because especially because we've seen high tempo offenses, especially and
you guys are one of the Big twelve. Everything's you know,
SEC Big ten, Big ten, kind of slow fat. But
other than that, you have a lot of these up
tempo offenses, these organs in the Pac twelve that if
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if these.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Players don't grab their legs, they just they get ran.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Sure, but if you do that, and we saw Lane
Kiffin talking in a press conference, but if you do that,
you should.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Be pulled for three plays.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I think I think it'd be a good rule. I mean,
I think it would be.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
A fair rule, or the whole series until it's a
first down again. So if you got a first down
the next place the first down, that's great. But just
to go out for one play and the person comes
back in good, I'm just too much. I think I
think the three play could be good. I'm trying to
think of what would be bad about that I'm starting
for you as a quarterback, Like you're cooking, you got it,
You're making this two flags. Want to make it up
here that you got the forks in the kitchen, scatty
(38:10):
noodles are on the wall. Sure, let's then somebody grabs
a hamstring and you're like, I know that ain't real.
Speaker 12 (38:15):
That's right, the pasta was about to be served. Dang man,
I hate that terrible.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
Well, what I like about just seeing you here as
we as we showed up and just kind of watching
you walk around the whole sports center is you know, everyone,
like everyone that came up, whether it's the camera guy
or the video dudes or the editors or whatever.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Turn the lights on on this place. He literally walked
over and turned the lights up in the bar.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
It's pretty unbelievable. And so when you show up to
a school, I mean, is it as a starting quarterback?
Is it kind of part of it where you're like,
I want to I want to be a leader here.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I want to know everyone's name.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
I want to.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Because it does take a village right to run this
football team.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
So what do you do when you get to a school.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I mean, I think it is. I think it is
part of it.
Speaker 12 (38:56):
I myself, as I'm pretty big on relationships, Like I'm
a I would call myself a people person, you know,
and so I enjoy interacting with people. And so when
I was a little kid, I talked a lot and
it got me in trouble, you know, in school and stuff.
But now I feel like it helps me out in
the long run. I get to know people a lot better.
And but yeah, I think I think it's part of
the gig A little bit about playing quarterback. Like if
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you want to be able to lead a group of people,
you know, you get you have to know the group
of people, I feel like, or at least they have
to have some respect for you. How do you gain
respect you get You got to get to know you
gott to show him what you're all about. And so
I think that I think that is a little bit
of part of it.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, all right, Final five questions Uh, the first question
is with you being here working under Maleson, coach Malson,
who is an offensive guru, genius whatever term they're using
this season, Like, what is that like as a quarterback?
How hard was it to come in and understand what
he's trying to do with this philosophy.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
Yeah, unbelievable offensive mind right, Like, as I'm sure a
lot of people know. Like if you can go back
and watch coach Malzon wherever he's been, he's been successful
on the offense side of the ball. He's really really
good at scheming up defenses. But for the most part,
offenses do a lot of the same. Everybody's gonna run
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inside zone, everybody's gonna, uh gonna run stretch plays, everybody's
gonna have a couple of shots, some quick game stuff.
But I think it's about how you call it and
how you execute it right. And that's I think what
coach Malson really preaches us. It's not the exs and o's,
it's about how well you execute what we're doing here and.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
So again, and there is some some.
Speaker 12 (40:30):
Little nuggets in there that he's doing different than a
couple of different people that kind of make his offense
a little bit special, and with coach Henshaw coming in
this year, we're gonna be stretching the field vertically a
lot more than we were last year.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Hamstring injuries when the other team it sounds.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like, that's right, that's right. Yeah, y'all get ready to
just gonna be hurting. That's right. Make sure you're hydrating before.
Make sure you're hydrating before.
Speaker 12 (40:52):
But yeah, yeah, he's he's unbelievable and he's I mean,
he's one of the best coach I've ever had.
Speaker 9 (40:57):
For sure, what's your favorite football movie?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
M favorite football movie.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Because it's interesting, the different generations interesting, he asked, like me,
I'm older Rudy, Like, for sure, have you even seen Rudy?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I've seen that's crazy, that's crazy. We should probably cut that.
You know that's great, you've not seen Ruth stop it
so I know? Am I turning red right now? I'm blushing?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
When I made the Forest Gump references, you can get
that I did.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I got the wow.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Favorite favorite football.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Movie blind Side? I love Blindside.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
For those that don't know, my friend s J was
the kid, not the actor.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Of the real life kid.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Should we pan to him? I think I didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
And the actor I didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
When I met s Jay, I didn't know that's the deal.
I was at Arkansas and he came and picked me
up on a golf car much like yourself, but mine
wasn't his fancy.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Oh okay, all right, and he was taking me to
the stadium whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
It was like.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
I was like, I like this, dude, he's pretty normal. Whatever.
We finished the whole day whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
I'm like, hey, do good see it, here's my number whatever, whatever, whatever, dude.
And then we're going back and someone's like, you know,
that's s J twoe And I'm like, who's s J twoey?
And they were like the kid from the blind Side.
I was like, he played that kid, that was the
actor and they were like, no, that's the real kid.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
I'm like his mom was Sandre. I still didn't get it.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Trying that's really cool.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
But the blind Side legit, legit.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
What's a good one.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
But J as well as though he wasn't, No.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
He was both he's being real.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No, he was, he's I don't know who to believe that?
All right?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Question three five? Uh, are you gonna you ran the
ball a lot?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Last year?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Man sure, you ran the ball a lot, and you're really.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Like you're worried for him.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
I am worried for him because he is.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
We just asked the about the getting hit in the
rib cage. It's he's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
He's great at running your ball. However, I think about
your longevity a bit too. And if you run the
ball all the time, that means you're getting hit all
the time. What's different this season?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
So we we went back and broke down.
Speaker 12 (43:01):
We say we I did not Coachingshaw, coach mals on
a lot of gas and coaches went back and broke down.
Every time I got hit last year, and it was
something like one hundred and eighty three times, which is
for a quarterback. Absurd. That numbers, I think is pretty
high for a running back.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
And so we came to the conclusion I don't need
I don't need to be hit as much. Uh.
Speaker 12 (43:27):
And also last year I got beat up, whether it
was hamstrings, ac sprains, you know, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I got hit in the head pretty hard. And so
goal this year, don't get hurt. How do you do that?
You don't take hits? Right? You? You? You maybe run
the ball less?
Speaker 12 (43:43):
Yes, you're stretched the ball down field with the guys,
like I said earlier, let their fast guys run fast
just to get the ball to them, right, And so
maybe when when I gash them, instead of trying to
you know, run over somebody, I slide, which we say
this like, uh, it was designed runs all the time.
It was myself doing that. And then when I would
start running, I would run like a dummy and try
to run into people instead of trying to run away
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from the big and fast people too. And so it's
a group effort. But the goal is to not get
hit as much this year.
Speaker 9 (44:13):
What's it like, to be honest, what's it like being
a starting quarterback in college?
Speaker 5 (44:18):
What's it like?
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (44:19):
It's uh, I mean from for as far back as
I can remember, like I wanted to play football and
baseball at the highest level, Like how I wanted to
do them both for as long as I could until
somebody said, hey man, you are not allowed to do
that anymore. And look at me twenty two years later, right,
I'm living out my dream.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's like this is this is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
Yeah, but he means, yeah, I'm talking about like you.
It's like you're like to do I mean, yeah.
Speaker 12 (44:47):
Well I have I have a girlfriend named Lucy and
Lucy more me and her have been dating since the
junior year of high school.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Okay, well, let's wratch that question. Nothing more you can say.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
You could say about the Mississippi thing, and I say
that somebody from markets that's the most Mississippi thing.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (45:02):
I was told once. I think it was either by
my dad or my grandfather. Did you find a good one?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
They let her go?
Speaker 5 (45:07):
And neither one a misisagree with you?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
No, we agree? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeahah, okay, final question, that question then, really, none of
the team's play las year. You're playing this year, that's right,
it's a complete one. Aig froo. Yeah, it's you're you're
Big twelve now, and I don't know how are you
guys approaching this season differently? You don't have a bunch
of tape of you guys playing these teams. Sure, so
what do you what are you doing to get ready?
Speaker 12 (45:31):
I mean it's it's everybody's pumped up, right, like from
the coaches to the players to the fans, Like we're
all fired up to being the Big twelve, right, and
when going to the Power five, I think we're like
the youngest Power five school by like thirty years or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Like, it's not close.
Speaker 12 (45:47):
A lot of eyeballs are going to be honest, when
you when you're you're the new guy on the block
playing really good football, there's a lot of eyeballs on you.
But what more would you want? Right, Like, what if
you had it your way? Would you not put it
like that? Would you not play against some of the
best teams in the country, or would you just go
play somebody that nobody really knows, right, And so we're
super excited, but I mean at the end of the day,
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football's football. You're still playing one hundred and twenty yard
field like, and you still gotta line up and say hut. Like,
and we have the personnel. I mean I think I
think you got it all from the top down, from
the coaches. I mean, we've got the personnel and the
team to do it on the offensive side of the ball,
to the defense side of the ball, special teams.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I mean, we're all three phases. We're checking boxes. And then.
Speaker 12 (46:34):
The place that we play in the Bounce House is electric. Right,
It's going to be up there as one of the
best stadiums in the conference.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
I think with the best fans too, And so.
Speaker 12 (46:44):
I think the best way to put it is we're
fired up and we're looking to perform at a high level.
And so I think that's how we tied it up
and put a bow on it. We're fired up and
championship standard has always been the standard at UCF, and
so that's kind of kind of what we're looking to
carry on and keep.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Doing well to end up. Like the highlight that I'm
still in the portal, that's right. I know we have
a lot of eyes and ears right here on this.
That's right, mostly because of him. But I'm still in
the portal.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
You're still available, that's right. Yeah, I've been I've been
there since seventh grade.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Hey, and you've been training.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's because you haven't mentioned it in a video.
Speaker 12 (47:15):
Yeah, yeah, now it's out, So get picked up YouTube.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Do all my years left? Yeah, and I got a
COVID here, I got like nine years.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
We've got a lot of ball. We got a lot
of ball. We love ball.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
You want to throw this up to us, yes, all, yeah,
we have some and we have some clothes to put on, like,
oh my good.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
But hey, if it goes too.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Fast, grab your hamstring and then take a break and
then we'll get up and do it again.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Thank you very much, appreciate.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
All right, that's it, Thank you guys. We'll be back
from our vacations early next week.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, because we're in Italy right now. We are all
in Italy, Yes we are.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
These guys joined me in the last when the John
Rice called me interviews playing everybody came over and joined.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Me in Italy.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Now it's us bones and his yep. And it's kind
of awkward because I have one bed. So what what stinks?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
What lightly stinks is that I have to miss the
first Arkansas game being there because of us coming back
in Italy.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
But it's a rent.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
It's a I don't want to say this in jinx it,
but it's a it's a game that we're paying.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, who you play? I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's on my I keep all
the games in my calendar on your personal calendar. Yeah,
that's funny. Do you actually put them in there yourself? Yeah,
wuc you Western Coastal, Western Carolina, Carolina catamounts. They're called
the catamounts, And yes, I do put on my calendar
and everybody else don't schedule over it. That's why I'm
(48:42):
touring and I'm not really doing there's almost it. Almost
there's a couple, but it was like, don't book me
on a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah. So that's it.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Have a great day, everybody, have a great weekend. Blow
the whistle.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
We're back. Hope you have a great week.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
And watch college football, collect your money.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
With the parlay. That's it.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Goodbye, bye a buddy.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm doing the show from Italy. Wow, are we all
in Italy?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Texas?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's wherever you want to be? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I am literally I think in Italy right now? Is
this is people that have this. We recorded this before
we left, and so right now I'm in Italy.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But like, mentally I would like to be in Italy.
I think I'm having a good time right now.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, for sure you are. Yeah. Have you eaten a lot?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
A lot?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And I told myself before I went, I wasn't gonna overreat,
but I over read.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
As soon as I landed, of course, man said, let
me get pizza.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Not only pizza, pasta costa, but had a lot of pasta.
And then I went to this one shop and they
had some some gelato there, and I was like, let
me just let me just get a small cup. I've
been back seven times. Is by the hotel Italian Ice? No,
that's just America different, that's in the American Ice. And
yet I don't know what it's going to be. Heity,
(01:15):
Why are you talking like that?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
What do you mean? Like every time I go to
a shop, it's a game the boat. So yes, I
will be in Italy. Where are you going to be?
How people hear this? Probably on the golf course?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Dang.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, I'm doing a staycation because my kids are in school,
so I can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Kelvin, I will be on the beach in California.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That's good. Mike Texas Toxis read. What are you doing
your hands up for? Why are you doing that? I
guess he's saying, should we play golf together?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm sure if Reid wants to look like there was
some technical issue, Reid doesn't. No, don't make big gestures
while we're doing the show because I think something's wrong,
like behind the scenes, and reads throwing his hands up like,
what so problem?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
That's like when I was a lifeguard my first week,
I didn't know that you weren't supposed to I'm gonna
blow the whistle just for demonstration.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We gotta start the show anyway, go ahead, Okay, So
I went.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Everyone out of the water like break time, and everyone
freaked out because apparently that's the signal for distress.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
And I'm I didn't know that for a long whistle.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
For a long whistle, long whistle means emergency, everyone all decks,
all hands on deck.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
And so the whole pool freaked out, like.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Everyone jumped off their stance and everything, and I'm like,
what's happening.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
They're like, well, what's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I'm like, no, I was telling everyone break time, everyone
out of the water, but a really long I got
in trouble.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Well it's like read through his hands up and he's
like pointing at stuff, and I'm like, oh, got something
wrong exactly, but it said he's a goop.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Of golf o.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Man. I didn't realize that he was going to be here.
All right.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Coming up, we have UCF head coach Gus Malson, John
Rice Plumbly.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
We went and hung out with them. We'll get to that.
Let's do the tittlehead of first.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
The tattle Townel.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
College football is in full of and we all love
the atmosphere. What's one place you haven't been to atmosphere
wise in college that you would like to go to.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I like to see the swamp being swampy.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You never been to the swamp? Never been to the swamp?
Been to LSU, Crazy Loud's Awesome, Death the Valley. I've
been to some decent atmospheres. The swamp probably is the one,
or maybe just because I'm an SEC guy, but like
to go to the to the Horseshoe, Ohio stay it
would be like, but then I'm but then I'm on
a rivalry game. But if it's just a general I
(03:30):
think that would be cool. But I just don't care.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Did you go to l s U to season play
Arkansas or no?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yes? Okay, yes, and it was fine. We gotta be bad'sosphad.
That's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Stupid Alabama would be cool, though I've been to Alabama before.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
What's that like?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
It's cool when they walk through at the beginning of
the place. We don't Alabama and it's cool and everybody's
up front, and it was we gotta be real bad
with that great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
See, it sounds like that's gonna be part of every
game you go through. It sucked all right.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Next question, Netflix, just a recent release documentary on Urban Ireland, Florida.
What is a drama filled sports memory that you would
like to see a documentary on.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think it will be fun to have a behind
the scenes look and have cameras in places like when
Lebron was making his decision, the decision, like to see
who was telling him what what to do leave Cleveland,
what he was requesting from Cleveland and they couldn't give them.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
So I think that's fun.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think when Peyton Mannon became a free agent, because
that was crazy because he was flying all these places.
They were like Peyton Manning's landed here.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That was fun.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Brett Favre coming back eight times, like to see this
the nuttiness that happens there, that whole saga. What's happening
now with college football realignment and the conversations that are
having to have now all the Pac twelve teams that
were like going to the Big twelve or Big ten,
which they did before they went to the Big twelve,
(04:54):
and the teams that have no home or acc I
think that's all. There's a lot, and I think because
cameras are more readily available and everybody's recording everything we
make it to see some of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But that would be fun, Eddie, what comes to mind
for you?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
I was thinking of, you know, Magic Johnson just kind
of there's the movie, the Winning Time Show or whatever
where you kind of get an idea of how hard
he parted.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But I would have liked to like see Magic Johnson
reality show.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
And stories from him, because I've never heard him say like,
oh yeah, I went hard. He never really just addresses that,
but people tell the stories. I'd like to hear it
from him, like what did you do?
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Man? How hard did you go when you.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Got to La Magic's Magic sex capaide? I mean, dude,
you know he went hard? Yeah, Magic Johnson, Magic Magic Johnson.
It's him and another guy named Johnson, Magic's Johnson.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
The top three Heisman favorite accord in the DraftKings of
Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels and Quinn Ewers. If you're putting
your money down, you're taking one of those three or
the field.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, I'd probably take the field. If wait, so I
get so hold on so I can pick one of
them or the.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Field one of them or or one of those of
those three. So it's those three versus the field. Yes,
that makes it different when the when these preseason like
whatever predictions come out, how accurate are they?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
They're usually except for Spencer Rattler, which he was like
the number one favorite to get drafted first and that
one was tough. Okay, and they're always but those guys
are always in the mix. I should say theyn't always
win it. I would go with the field just because
it's the numbers thing. But I think that Caleb Williams,
if he has a good year, he'll win it. He's
propped up to win it in every way. But I
would take the field. I mean, you have the quorum
from Michigan, who's a running back. If they win the
(06:41):
national championship. A lot of it's gonna depend on, too,
how good the teams are that quarterback from Notre Dame
Hartman as a shot. If they're good, it's still Caleb
Williams is the guy put the money on. They want
them to win. If everybody's even Kayler, Williams wins all right.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Next, speaking of the Heisman, when I say Heisman snub,
who's the first person you think of.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Darren McFadden, the ever should never won the Heisman he got.
He was finished second twice, didn't even finished the question.
I finished twice in Heisman two years in a row.
It's so stupid. He also Troy Smith shouldn't shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Have Troy Smith. I forgot about him.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
So the one most people probably says paid Manny and
Charles Wooson won because Charles Woodson was playing defense, was
returning upon That's.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
A big one. That's a big one over mcfatten. I
think bones, but I get it.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I get it. Mcfan's your dude, I get it, dude,
any one of the cowboys. So he was all right.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
He ended up.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
He did know twice Adrian Peterson in two thousand and four,
Matt Liner wanted he just was aalized because he was
a freshman and no freshman had done that yet. They
ended up doing that later in Freshman l Menzel Money
money Man ended winning its freshman Matt Leonard Matt Liner, Right,
there's no D in his name, Yeah, but it's pronounced
(07:51):
Matt Leonard.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Say his name Matt Liner. See sounds like a D.
Say his name Matt Liner Liner. See.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Now you guys are none it, Matt Lionert. It's not said,
don't be a douche. All right, all right, that's tittle tattle.
Go ahead, just still reminder. Twenty five whistles presented by
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(08:21):
our party game, our parlay, our four game parlay.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Baby, we already did it. You're writing it down again. Yeah,
we we just literally just did it. He just told
me to grab my pen. So he puts you out,
said thanks.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
You remember, Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I thought he's a grab your pen. You're faking it.
You're acting hey man, I'm just believing it. I guess
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All Right, our sit down with Gus mals On. We're
sitting outside of a golf club. We played golf all
day with Gus, coached males on some and so we're
all just chilling at golf clothes. He coached Cam Newton
at Auburn, his offensive court ender twenty ten. He also
had Nick Marshall Trey Mason, the re Heisman finalists. He
took an Auburn team who didn't win a single let
SEC game in twenty twelve and let him to do an
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SEC championship and an appearance in the BCS Championship at
twenty fourteen. He's got a national cham he's got a championship.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
We saw the trophy. It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, this is our dude too, because he was he's
a Texas guy. Joh, I'm a Texas dude. And then
he coached in Arkansas and he's an Arkansas guy though.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That's right. He's definitely an.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Arkansas, but he was born he was born in ten
much mouch as born in Kansas like in Irvin Took.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I was born there for nine days. Do you remember it. Yeah.
He's been the coach at you at u c F
since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Innovative, offensive guy and you see f in the Big
twelve this year. You can follow a coach Malason on
Twitter at coach Gus Malson.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Here you go, coach.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'd like to start by saying that I paid eight
hundred dollars today for different nil things. I didn't want
a dang thing we did every eight hundred. I paid
eight hundred dollars for for like catching punts. I got
beat up knees I got I didn't want to adore
for I didn't want a single door.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I didn't want half off a top golf.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Yeah. Well, I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You were impression. Thank you? Okay, yes, you come through.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
I'm at the eighteenth hole. I was with each group.
You know, you had scratches on your knees. You just
got through.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Catching like four out of five punts.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Sure, then you actually hit one that was one of
the top shots today.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
So really we should have you should have won something,
celebrated me with something.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Yes, we really should have. We dropped the ball on
that one.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So that we're just ending into that
where just leave it.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's okay, all right, best hundred bucks in the whole couple.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, okay. Coach, this job that you have is
so much politician because it's important. There are a lot
of people here and and look, I've never been shy
about I'm a massive fan and I'm a doner at
the University of Arkansas, and I see how that happens
at a different level because they're extra nice to me
because now in my life I have money. I mean,
that's honestly the truth. But you need money and that's
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why we're here. So you're having to do basically be
a politician. How much has that changed in your life
as a coach.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yeah, we're in a new age of college football right now,
probably the last two years with a one time transfer
the collectives in IL and now it's just about being
competitive and event like this is just you know, that's
the new age what we have to do. You know,
we're a young school, so we don't have all the
older boosters that have great money. You pick up the
phone and you call you know, we're it's kind of
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strengthen numbers and events like this is really our livelihood
right now. I think today went great. I think everybody
had a good time. It really means a lot to
us that you took the time to be here. It's
a really big deal for us. And you know, I
think our players did a really good job, and I
think most.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Of the people had a good time.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I didn't want a freaking door prize though.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
How good of a deal was it that I was here?
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Well I bragged on you.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Yeah, well we got Bobby Bone's one of my Arkansas
guys here, and everybody thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah, what mortgage is that?
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Paying nothing?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
A couple of words from coach Miles.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
On I think they pad it into the bag. Everybody
shook your hand.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You know, you got to move into the big twelve
and this is the year for that. Did you kind
of see that coming when you came here and you
stayed here, because obviously you can go wherever you want
you want national championship?
Speaker 8 (12:31):
Yeah, So Terry Mihawger was my ide at Arkansas State.
You know, in twenty twelve, and so when he got
the job here and he hired me, I knew that
we were going to be in a poor five. I
just didn't know what's gonna be the Big twelve, but
I thought that everything trajectory was.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
I think the Big twelve really fits us.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
You know, we're the only school in the state of
Florida in the Big Twelve. I think it's great for recruiting,
and you know, it's a really good conference. It's really
deep from top to bottom, and you know, we're we're
blessed to be a part of it.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
You're still young enough to late to the players, but
you're old enough to relate to their parents. You're young
enough to understand and be invested involved in NIL, but
you're also old enough to have been here fully in
before it all happened. Like you're at that perfect age
where you've seen it all shift. Did you ever feel like,
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I don't know if I can do this? The whole
landscape is shane because again, you're you're just.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Not an old dude.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, I'm you know this college football ages and dog years. Okay,
so I'm fifty seven. I feel little older. You know,
I really think the teams that are going to be
successful in this new age is the teams and the
coaches that adapt. I mean, that's just what you have
to do, you know. And I think we're at a
school that really embraces that. I've got a young staff
around me that really helps me with that, and you know,
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I'm embracing it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Coach.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
You know, during the games, you have the State troopers
with you. At the end of the game, how long
do they stay with you? Do you get to take
them home? Do they take you all the way to
the front they at any time?
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I've always wondered that guy.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
You know, when I first are to come a head coach,
it kind of was a lock where you're like, why
are these guys around?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Well, when you have a play.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
Like the kick six, all right, and at the end
of the game, people are trying to tackle you and
they're like elbow like and they get you back.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
To the locker room.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
It takes fifteen minutes.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
You're glad you have them, But I tell you it's
really neat. You get really close to those guys. They
travel with you, and you know they're really neat, you know,
to get to.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Know and they have badges and get you My security
guy has a badge. There's no where we can't get
just because he has a badge. He's a former DA officer,
and it doesn't matter. He's got a badge.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
When we can go in there, it's awesome. Which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
The kick six. Did you know the kicker might not
be able to make that kick? I mean, was there
a hey, this might not I mean, that play just
seemed to happen. Yeah, And the fact that there was
not a hold blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah. So they missed their starter, missed like two or
three field goals. They put their back up in. That's
a big moment.
Speaker 8 (14:58):
It was fifty six yards was blown in their face
and be honestly, I was thinking it could be a fake,
you know, but we just called time out. We moved
Chris Davis back't he was normally on the block.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That was the first time we did it. And I
just told our guys.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
I said, they've got two defensive guys at the wings.
The restaurant offensive line if it's short blocked those two
defensive lining So you know, halfway there, I saw it.
MS go the line of screamage. We're blocking those two guys.
I'm about the fifty yard line. They come by and
there was some good blocks, you know, and so Chris
Davis went by me. There's not a white shirt within
fifteen yards. So what do you do as a coach?
I'm looking for flags and then I didn't even see
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him score, but I just went, wow, we just beat
them boys like that. It was kind of a real
surreal moment, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
One of the craziest sporty moments I've ever seen in
my life watching live. I wasn't there, but I bet
you there are so many people that claim they were there. Now,
how many people now go, coach, I was there, and
you know there's no chance they were there. You hear
a lot of yeah, there's no doubt. I bet people were, like,
I was there. It was one of the I wasn't there,
but I did watch it. You started coaching high school football.
You know, there are many ways to be at the
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top of your profession. You know some of the guys
I know, uh, so they finished college, they go be
a GA, they stay in the college ranks, so they
go to the NFL. Your route was through high school.
Did you know when you went to coach high school
that my eventual goal is to be the head coach
of the major college program.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
No, not not at all.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
I mean, you know, I started out at Hughes High
School and I was just so blessed and happy to
be a coach. And I really wanted to win a
state championship. That's really you know what my whole mindset was.
And now I was hoping to maybe coach at a
Fort Smith's south side north side. You know, I'm from
Fort Smith, so I was real blessed.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Hughes.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
We went to state championship, we didn't want it, went
to Shiloh, we won a couple, went to Springdale. I
came in a really good time, we had great players.
And then I got a chance to go to Arkansas.
I mean like that was like a dream come true
for a guy from Fort Smith, Arkansas. And I played
for the Hogs for two years to walk on, and
so that really, you know, got me in college football.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Man, we wanted you to be the head coach.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
We wanted you, I know, you know comment, but we
wanted you to the head coach coach at you well,
I know, and he should. I'm just gonna say, you
don't got to say anything, but you done. You've done wrong, coach.
I'm gonna be on the record any think looking at me,
he's making no movement at all. I was gonna say,
I am on the records that coach Masin was done wrong.
That being said, coach, is there anything Do you ever
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have a Eureka moment? At this point in your career
offensively everybody knows you as an offensive mind or genius
or whatever the term is. Do you ever go, oh,
this is something that I just discovered.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
I'll tell you what I think.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
To be on top of your game, you've got to
have that mindset, even if you believe in what you're doing.
You got to stay cutting edge and you got to
stay fresh. And that's what I try to do. And
obviously having good people around me helps. But you know,
it's all about players. If you've got good players, you
can be very creative.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
And you know, they give the coach way too much credit.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
I've been blessed to coach some of the better players
to play college football. I mean Derren McFadden, I mean
Felis Jones, Peyton Hillis, I mean my wife, Oh yeah,
put the Wildcat in that year and McFadden made it
Amos and I got a chance to Cam Newton.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I mean, you know that's that's some of the better players.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
To ever played college football.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
So you were as oc right, I was o s
when I had Cam. What's the difference in Cam? And
it could be physically because he is different. He was
different wherever he went. What was the difference in Cam?
Speaker 8 (18:15):
You know when I started coaching Cam, he wasn't the
same Cam Newton is today. I mean he was, you know,
trying to prove hisself. He had a chip on his
shoulder and just a great competitor.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I mean, just a.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
Freak athlete, but he can flat out for a great leader.
He will just to win a national championship. We weren't
really ultra talented around him, and it was just something
to be a part of and just one of those
special years.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Itch.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
What's your favorite time of day to play on Saturdays?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Because I mean I.
Speaker 9 (18:42):
Wake up Saturday mornings, I'm like, oh my gosh, it's
almost eleventh Central time.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So do you like playing early and getting out of.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
The way or do you like longer I've been in
college football.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
I want to play early because I'm one of those
guys that the later the game, I'm like a fan
I'm like, you know, I meet with the guys and
you know, I'll probably wear them out, but you know,
I like having their game early. And then in college football,
you don't have a lot of time to spend with
your family. So college coaches, if you play early, you
get to spend the rest of the Saturday afternoon and.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
Even with your with your family. So I'm always rooting
for the day.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
Now when you say earlier, when when does your day start?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
You know, it just depends, like if you play eleven
o'clock game.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Of course, you don't want to play eleven o'clock games,
so that's usually you're at the bottom of the conference. Okay,
but you know the two point thirty you know CBS
or Fox game like, that's really what you want, and
then you get a chance to spend a whole evening,
you know, with your family.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
All right, final five questions with coach Miles on going
into the Big twelve?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Do you do you scheme differently at all?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Are they and I know you guys probably have a
lot of analytics a politic guys going from the AU
Conference to the Big twelve? Are they just bigger players?
So do you have to play a different kind of
ball because you guys already look like you can compete
right now.
Speaker 8 (19:52):
Yeah, So I think the big thing anytime you move
up power five commerce, you've got to be good and
deep up front. On both sides of football, the skill
a lot of times are very similar. And uh so
we've known about this for about a year and a half,
two years. We have an offensive line defensive line. I
think we have more quality depth and we've had maybe
since I've been coaching, and.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
That's really key.
Speaker 8 (20:13):
But in this league, you have score points and you've
got to play defense. So we were really focusing on
trying to play great defense and hopefully that will separate us.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
You've been in Florida for a little bit, now, have
you seen any gators around?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Why do you keep asking everybody about gators?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Everybody of water?
Speaker 8 (20:27):
We played the Gators. We played the Gators in a
bowl game game game, you know what. Yeah, so yeah,
And it did freak me out. The first time I
play at Interner Lock and Golf Course and you know,
I get near the.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Pond, I'm looking and every now and then, yeah, it's
a country club. A lot of gators out there.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
Every now and then there's a few but they'll get
them out of there. But now, hey, you got to
be ready around the state. That's three questions. Uh So
I was talking with Jay Are. I think if a
player now on defense has all of a sudden he
grabs his hamstring because you guys' offense is moving too fast,
they want to slow the game down. I think that
should be a three play, not penalty.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But you have to sit out three plays minimal because
it drives me crazy when an offense is moving the
ball and you can put whatever high octane, what wide
open offense you want, but when they grab their hamstring
and they're back in at one play later, you got
to go out three plays.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
How do you feel about that rule change I'm suggesting, Yeah,
you know, I've been like that drives me crazy.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
I was one of the first no huddle guys back
when everybody was grapping a back. Now they're all doing it.
But anything like that, you know, free plays, I'd be
all for that. I'd be ready, you know, for the rest.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Of the game.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
I mean, I just think, you know, that's there's no
place in college football for that. And I think when
it comes to a common sense thing, and like you said,
the guy comes in the neck and he laid there
and they had to come out and get him.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
You know, I'm all for it. Well there was like
giggling too, and they come back in one play later.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Coach, you know.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
That drives off me. Cred Coach Bones and I.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
We've been working out a little bit and you know,
just for three or four days a week, no big deal.
But but you think, like with our physical you know,
structure right now, where we're at right now.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
Do you think we can play for you today? Uh?
You know, Bobby cop punts.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Okay, that did and he dove be scratched.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
I told you earlier, so I think he you know,
when I'm thinking of Bobby like, he's pretty tough.
Speaker 9 (22:28):
You asked John John Rice about this. I caught a long,
deep pass from him at the facility.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yeah, long, Yeah, I would have to evaluate your probably
in in c but you know, I think you know,
we will at least give you a look.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, we at least give you a look.
Speaker 11 (22:43):
He said nothing, you said, That's what I'm talking about.
He literally said, nothing will give you a look. That's
him trying to get out of this interview. He wants
to finish the interview. Okay, last question, coach, what's it
like being rich?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Because good ques really, because you you're a guy who
comes from humble beginning, and that is that's inspiration for
people everywhere, because it's not like you had a huge
trust fund and your your grandpa owned or president university
like you did it, and people like myself and other
people from small parts and small states look at you
as a if he can do it, there's a shot
(23:14):
I can do it. Like you can just go into
a store and buy anything. You look at taggs in
price sect anymore? To be honest, do you even look
at a price tag anymore?
Speaker 7 (23:24):
Every now and then?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Man, it depends. But I will say this. I mean,
I'm one blessed guy. There's a lot of high school
coaches a lot smarter than me that just hadn't been
put in the right situations, you know. And everywhere I've been,
I've had great players, I've had great coaches, great administrators.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
So you know, I'm just living a dream and I'm
gonna hire coach.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And but look, look, Hughes want the state championship game.
We can go through Shiloh, we can go to Springdale,
we can go through all the players that magically all
the schemes that magically happen, but the one consistent, the
one constant, the common denominator is you, and you have
to also it. And I know you're a humble guy,
but you are very inspired even to someone like myself,
because you show up, you have a good attitude, you
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work hard, and you motivate others to do the same.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
You know, my best friends in the world are Arkansas guys.
You know, I'm marks so guy and pretty neat for
me to be shitting here with you. To be honestly,
I've kept up with you a long time and you
know I have that connection Arkansas. But you know I'm
just proud to be a Arkansas high school football that's
just coaching college to be.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Honestly, we're rooting for you, guys. Coach, thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I only like three teams Arkansas whoever's playing Texas and
now you see I like it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I like it. Thanks coach. Good luck.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
All right? Thanks to coach Malason.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
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Now let's get to an interview with UCF quarterback John
Rice plumb Lee. So he was the quarterback at Old Miss,
transferred over. Grew up in Hattisburg, Mississippi. Four star recruit
coming out of high school, but before Old Miss, he
committed to Georgia and then chose Ole Miss and then
transferred to UCF to play football and baseball.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
He does it both.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
He finished with thirty five hundred passing yards twenty three
touchdowns last year, with ten home runs.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
In eighteen stolen bases. Crazy.
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Speaker 1 (26:01):
Here he is John Wy's Plumbley.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
We're at the indoor facility for UCF.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Is there an official name that you got? All right?
What's the nickname of this place?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We just called it indoor, So you just go to
the indoor.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
The last time that I saw you, I guess you've
never known I was watching you. But the last first
time I saw you, I guess I was taking a
golf cart from the spring game here, okay to a
baseball game. Yeah, And like ESPN did this whole thing
about you, and they were like, watch this, he's gonna morph.
He's a transformer, taking his pads off and he's gonna
go to the baseball field.
Speaker 12 (26:31):
Well, when you started that story when you said on
a golf cart, in my mind immediately went, what have
I done on a golf course? That was bad that
you saw a video of? But I kind of like
that that version better.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Probably golf course you're probably Are you a good golfer though?
Are you that annoying as good at everything? No?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 12 (26:46):
I'm good for losing probably anywhere from eighteen to twenty
two golf balls around.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Do you play my average golf like you do baseball though?
Is that what it is? You're uh, yeah, I'm baseball
swinging at the golf ball for sure.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
So you planning two sports? Was that part of the
reason that you wanted to come to UCF?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, it was. It was a big piece. Talking to
coach maleson when I got in the transfer portal, he.
Speaker 12 (27:06):
Said, hey, man, you have the opportunity to come play
quarterback and I said, well, coach, I want to play
baseball too, and he said, hey, we'll make it happen.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But does he say that like we'll make it happen,
but really doesn't want to make it happen.
Speaker 12 (27:16):
So, going back to high school recruiting, he was at
Auburn recruiting me there and I told him, Hey, I
want to play quarterback, and he said, we'll come.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
On a visit.
Speaker 12 (27:25):
While I get to the visit, and he says, hey, man,
we don't want you to play quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
We want you to play slot receiver.
Speaker 12 (27:30):
And he showed me all these things that he wanted
me to do, and I was basically like, thanks, but
no thanks. But like, he told me something that I
didn't want to hear, so I knew that it wasn't
He came back later in high school and said, hey,
we want you as quarterback. We're watching a film on
you now that hey, we want you, And I knew
he wasn't going to say something that was a lie
because he already told me something I didn't want to
hear once, right, and so he wasn't talking out of
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the side of his mouth. And so fast forward transfer
a portal. Hey I want to play quarterback, you can
do it. Hey, I want to play baseball, will make
it happen. So it was kind of one of those
things that not only did he stick by what he said,
he jumped through a bunch of bunch of hoops to
make it happen. Like we moved the spring game back
an hour and then the baseball game up an hour,
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so I have an opportunity to go from the game
to the spring game.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
And so there was a lot of.
Speaker 12 (28:18):
Stuff that he did, communicating with the head baseball coach,
coach love Lady to just give me the opportunity to
do it because like at a lot of places like
that's impossible.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What I did the spring is like that's a no go.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That's where they tell you can do it and then
it's not actually the correct I like that he told,
you know at one point even though it wasn't the
same about being a receiver.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
In one of my books, I wrote about how.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Find somebody that can tell you suck, because then you
could trust them one day. That's right when they say
you do good, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 12 (28:43):
So when they say when they tell you when you're bad,
or tell you when he suck, or tell you something
that you don't want to hear, when they say something
that you do want to hear, you okay, you can take.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It to the bank. Yeah, like, yeah, he's been truthful.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
When you're doing that and you're playing the spring game
and you know you're going to go hop over onto
the baseball How do you stay focused because you've got
to individualize each of them, but also you're like a
real life human being. Yeah, how do you stay focused
on one when the other one's coming up in like
an hour and a half.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
So I was.
Speaker 12 (29:10):
I was pretty good. Like went through the same routine
as I do every baseball game. We're playing Memphis, and
so you go through, you know, pregame hitting routine. You
take in and out and you do all these things
to get ready for the baseball game. And so my
first at bat of the game, I had a triple
and which kind of I think made a little bit cooler.
If I would have went up there and you know,
went over three to three strikeouts, it wouldn't have been
as cool as an ESPN.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Video, right, wou It wouldn't have been as fun.
Speaker 12 (29:33):
But later on in the game, probably around sixth seventh inning,
you start hearing the bounce house, like you start hearing
the speakers like they're playing loud music. And it's like
I was completely focused in on baseball, but now it's
like you're hearing the bounce house getting to go. You're
seeing all the people walking up and it's like, damn,
I'm kind of itching to get over there, right, And
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so the game kind of got out of hand. We
were up like ten to three or something like that,
and so I had I was up like third the
next inning, uh, and I said, we're winning pretty handily.
In the seventh, they can they can handle me for
nine outs and I can get over there. Because we
had a rain delay too, that kind of complicated the
whole thing, and so, uh, I'm up third. I go
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to talk coach level. I'm like, hey, what do you think.
He's like, I think that sounds good, right, And the
guy that was up that inning hit a bomb and
they got to let off for us hit a bomb.
So I was like, okay, yeah, we got this one
in the bag boys. And so next guy hit, I
hit a single. Call time, ran off, put my stuff back,
ran onto the golf cart. Kenny was right in there,
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ready to rock, and we drove off.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
The move would have been the forest gun move where
you just keep running.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's right, just right running. Check up. Yes, So I
mean you're like that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You may be too young to get the reference here,
but like bo Jackson, Bo Jackson, Deon Sanders.
Speaker 12 (30:57):
Yeah, that's a that's a cool parison, right, Like, I mean, if.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
You got hurt at one of them, I'd be so
pissed by the other coach.
Speaker 12 (31:04):
Yeah, that would that would wouldn't make for as good
as the ESPN stork.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, it would be another bump in the road. That
would be would not be good.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
What do what do you?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
What do the teammates think, Like in baseball, is there
anyone else that's really good at football too? And they're
just like what is what is Jr?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Get to do that?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
On both teams, there's always guys that are like, dude,
I could I.
Speaker 12 (31:25):
Can play line on the baseball team. I can play
linebacker one. And I'm like, hey man, I'm looking at
you right now, and I look at the linebackers that
we have on the team.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
They would eat you for breakfast, like it would not
even be close.
Speaker 12 (31:34):
And then of course there's some football guys that are like,
oh yeah, I can hit homers.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
One because they did in high school too, probably yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 12 (31:41):
One of one of my buddies, Trent, wouldemore. Uh he
swears that he can. He swears he can hit I
took him over the baseball facility one day, and we
have these like a soft replica baseballs, and we have
a machine that kind of can throw you sliders, can
throw you a vender, can throw your high spin rate fastball.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Said all right, get get in there with them.
Speaker 12 (32:00):
And for the first like fifteen pitches, he's just swinging
in air.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Right, But eventually he got it. He had like a
ground ball.
Speaker 12 (32:07):
Up the middle, and he's fired up.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I told you, told you, shout out Trent.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Your locker in the facility here is right by the
doors that go right into the stadium.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
That's right Why that spot.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It almost looks like it was purposeful that you're right
there by the entrance or the exit to go right
onto the field. And this place does get really loud
your first time here in that spot, would it sounds like.
Speaker 12 (32:32):
Uh, yeah, I didn't pick my locker spot.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I came in and my name was on locker.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
And so we come in for game days and it's
usually set up like our pads are in there, helmets
are in there, our game day loop which has our
pants undershirt, everything that you can imagine on there. Then
your cleats are sitting at the bottom of the locker
like it's all set up pristine, ready to rock, And
so for every game, I take a picture of it
just because I think it's so cool, right, Like I'm
living out my dream. And there's a locker that somebody
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took the time to set up for me. And so
I'm right beside the door and I my first game here.
I obviously never played in the Bounce House. I'd played
in Tuscaloosa, Auburn, Mississippi State, old mess like, I'd played
in some really really cool stadiums before, never play in
the Bounce House, And so uh look up some YouTube
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videos kind of like it's like, Okay, this place is
kind of this place is kind of life.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
It's kind of lit, right.
Speaker 12 (33:22):
And so I'm sitting in my locker and have my
headphones on and I started to hear this kind of
like ruckus and like beside me, and I'm you know,
come off of one ear. And then I look to
my left and there's double doors where we go out
into the tunnel and they're just rattling just why, and
I'm like, Okay, somebody's trying to break in, Like what
what We're gonna have to fight somebody that's trying to
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get in this locker room.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right now.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
And I look around the locker room and it's like
nobody's bating an eye and it's just the stadium. They
started playing Zombie Nation. Oh, and everybody's jumping and it's
like it's like, holy cow. I take my headphones off
and it's like this place is un be leavl. And
we go out of the tunnel, of course, and then
Domination is still playing and you're walking down the tunnel
and it's the wind screens are like beating in on
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you and flashing strobe lights. You go out, the fire
goes up, smoke happens, and it's like, this is unbelievable,
this is this is sweet, this is out of a dream.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
I watch Quarterback on Netflix, and again I only played
high school football and not even that good. Last I
played quarterback was like seventh grade.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
So you could star on the show, for sure? Yeah,
for sure. I got in the portal. You got in
the portal.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
O nobody wanted metal.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's really weird.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
If you look now, I'm still sitting in the portal waiting,
waiting for your opportunity.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
When these guys get hit, which we don't get here
on TV, but they get hit hard and they it's
like this, Oh you hear them?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Is that when you get hit? Is that what it
feels like? The oxygen just being sucked out of you
if you get nailed? Like what do they feel like
when you're like.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
A blindside shot or right up the middle somebody's blitzing
up the then on just there was.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
One play that comes to my mind from last year.
Speaker 12 (35:05):
I'm it's inside zoom to the left, so I'm about
to hand it off the bowser.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
This guy goes to attack. I think it was Bowser.
RJ goes to tackle RJ. So I pulled the ball.
I'm running the ball right. I run around the edge
and I get out there and I try to cut back.
Maybe it was a pass play. I can't remember. I
get tackled like from the back. I didn't see him. Boom.
I go down and I come up and it's.
Speaker 12 (35:29):
Like like I the breath was knocked out of me.
Right well, the next play fourth and one, like we
got to get this play and so I last year,
I relayed the call to the offensive line and so
I'm behind the offensive line like.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And they're all like, I'm usually a pretty really loud guy,
like you can hear me, and they're all like turning around,
like what the heck is going on right now?
Speaker 12 (35:54):
Thankfully, I don't know if they knew I got my breath,
knocked them out of me or not, but they called
time out coached it. We came to the sideline and
I was like water. I don't know if you ever
seen SpongeBob episode water.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And what I felt like.
Speaker 12 (36:09):
Eventually got my breath back and then we got the
first down. It ended up being all right, But yeah,
when you take one when you don't see it coming,
like to anywhere around the body and around the rib cage, yeah,
you'll feel it for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
In baseball, let's say, if the Empire gets hit in
the neck or so, they catch will go talk or
they probably talk to somebody a few seconds to adjust
to being does that Is there a way that happens
to college football where somebody will kind of cover for
somebody else because again, you have a play clock.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
Yeah. The only thing that the only thing that comes
to my mind when you say that is like, what
offenses are in pace? Like like we're going fast and
usually go fast when you've got a defense on their
heels right, whether they're tired, whether they they're they're they're
in the wrong personnel, they don't want to be in.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
You got them on your heel.
Speaker 12 (36:54):
So you're going fast, play after play after play, and
then all of a sudden, it's like clockwork, somebody catches
a hamstring cramp.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Right there, are gonna go down. Oh I'm hurting. Well,
they go to sideline and their back end the next play.
Speaker 12 (37:04):
I think that's I think that's the only equivalent of
like slowing down the pace of it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Which I think pulling for three plays if they do that,
because especially because we've seen high tempo offenses, especially and
you guys are one of the Big twelve. Everything's you know,
SEC Big ten, Big ten, kind of slow fat. But
other than that, you have a lot of these up
tempo offenses, these organs in the Pac twelve that if
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if these.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Players don't grab their legs, they just they get ran.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Sure, but if you do that, and we saw Lane
Kiffin talking in a press conference, but if you do that,
you should.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Be pulled for three plays.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I think I think it'd be a good rule. I mean,
I think it would be.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
A fair rule, or the whole series until it's a
first down again. So if you got a first down
the next place the first down, that's great. But just
to go out for one play and the person comes
back in good, I'm just too much. I think I
think the three play could be good. I'm trying to
think of what would be bad about that I'm starting
for you as a quarterback, Like you're cooking, you got it,
You're making this two flags. Want to make it up
here that you got the forks in the kitchen, scatty
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noodles are on the wall. Sure, let's then somebody grabs
a hamstring and you're like, I know that ain't real.
Speaker 12 (38:15):
That's right, the pasta was about to be served. Dang man,
I hate that terrible.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
Well, what I like about just seeing you here as
we as we showed up and just kind of watching
you walk around the whole sports center is you know, everyone,
like everyone that came up, whether it's the camera guy
or the video dudes or the editors or whatever.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Turn the lights on on this place. He literally walked
over and turned the lights up in the bar.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
It's pretty unbelievable. And so when you show up to
a school, I mean, is it as a starting quarterback?
Is it kind of part of it where you're like,
I want to I want to be a leader here.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I want to know everyone's name.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
I want to.
Speaker 9 (38:48):
Because it does take a village right to run this
football team.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
So what do you do when you get to a school.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I mean, I think it is. I think it is
part of it.
Speaker 12 (38:56):
I myself, as I'm pretty big on relationships, Like I'm
a I would call myself a people person, you know,
and so I enjoy interacting with people. And so when
I was a little kid, I talked a lot and
it got me in trouble, you know, in school and stuff.
But now I feel like it helps me out in
the long run. I get to know people a lot better.
And but yeah, I think I think it's part of
the gig A little bit about playing quarterback. Like if
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you want to be able to lead a group of people,
you know, you get you have to know the group
of people, I feel like, or at least they have
to have some respect for you. How do you gain
respect you get You got to get to know you
gott to show him what you're all about. And so
I think that I think that is a little bit
of part of it.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, all right, Final five questions Uh, the first question
is with you being here working under Maleson, coach Malson,
who is an offensive guru, genius whatever term they're using
this season, Like, what is that like as a quarterback?
How hard was it to come in and understand what
he's trying to do with this philosophy.
Speaker 12 (39:48):
Yeah, unbelievable offensive mind right, Like, as I'm sure a
lot of people know. Like if you can go back
and watch coach Malzon wherever he's been, he's been successful
on the offense side of the ball. He's really really
good at scheming up defenses. But for the most part,
offenses do a lot of the same. Everybody's gonna run
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inside zone, everybody's gonna, uh gonna run stretch plays, everybody's
gonna have a couple of shots, some quick game stuff.
But I think it's about how you call it and
how you execute it right. And that's I think what
coach Malson really preaches us. It's not the exs and o's,
it's about how well you execute what we're doing here and.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
So again, and there is some some.
Speaker 12 (40:30):
Little nuggets in there that he's doing different than a
couple of different people that kind of make his offense
a little bit special, and with coach Henshaw coming in
this year, we're gonna be stretching the field vertically a
lot more than we were last year.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Hamstring injuries when the other team it sounds.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like, that's right, that's right. Yeah, y'all get ready to
just gonna be hurting. That's right. Make sure you're hydrating before.
Make sure you're hydrating before.
Speaker 12 (40:52):
But yeah, yeah, he's he's unbelievable and he's I mean,
he's one of the best coach I've ever had.
Speaker 9 (40:57):
For sure, what's your favorite football movie?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
M favorite football movie.
Speaker 9 (41:04):
Because it's interesting, the different generations interesting, he asked, like me,
I'm older Rudy, Like, for sure, have you even seen Rudy?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
I've seen that's crazy, that's crazy. We should probably cut that.
You know that's great, you've not seen Ruth stop it
so I know? Am I turning red right now? I'm blushing?
Speaker 5 (41:19):
When I made the Forest Gump references, you can get
that I did.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I got the wow.
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Favorite favorite football.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Movie blind Side? I love Blindside.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
For those that don't know, my friend s J was
the kid, not the actor.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Of the real life kid.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Should we pan to him? I think I didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
And the actor I didn't even know.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
When I met s Jay, I didn't know that's the deal.
I was at Arkansas and he came and picked me
up on a golf car much like yourself, but mine
wasn't his fancy.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Oh okay, all right, and he was taking me to
the stadium whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
It was like.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
I was like, I like this, dude, he's pretty normal. Whatever.
We finished the whole day whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
I'm like, hey, do good see it, here's my number whatever, whatever, whatever, dude.
And then we're going back and someone's like, you know,
that's s J twoe And I'm like, who's s J twoey?
And they were like the kid from the blind Side.
I was like, he played that kid, that was the
actor and they were like, no, that's the real kid.
Speaker 5 (42:17):
I'm like his mom was Sandre. I still didn't get it.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Trying that's really cool.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
But the blind Side legit, legit.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
What's a good one.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
But J as well as though he wasn't, No.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
He was both he's being real.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No, he was, he's I don't know who to believe that?
All right?
Speaker 3 (42:36):
Question three five? Uh, are you gonna you ran the
ball a lot?
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Last year?
Speaker 5 (42:40):
Man sure, you ran the ball a lot, and you're really.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Like you're worried for him.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
I am worried for him because he is.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
We just asked the about the getting hit in the
rib cage. It's he's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
He's great at running your ball. However, I think about
your longevity a bit too. And if you run the
ball all the time, that means you're getting hit all
the time. What's different this season?
Speaker 2 (42:59):
So we we went back and broke down.
Speaker 12 (43:01):
We say we I did not Coachingshaw, coach mals on
a lot of gas and coaches went back and broke down.
Every time I got hit last year, and it was
something like one hundred and eighty three times, which is
for a quarterback. Absurd. That numbers, I think is pretty
high for a running back.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
And so we came to the conclusion I don't need
I don't need to be hit as much. Uh.
Speaker 12 (43:27):
And also last year I got beat up, whether it
was hamstrings, ac sprains, you know, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
I got hit in the head pretty hard. And so
goal this year, don't get hurt. How do you do that?
You don't take hits? Right? You? You? You maybe run
the ball less?
Speaker 12 (43:43):
Yes, you're stretched the ball down field with the guys,
like I said earlier, let their fast guys run fast
just to get the ball to them, right, And so
maybe when when I gash them, instead of trying to
you know, run over somebody, I slide, which we say
this like, uh, it was designed runs all the time.
It was myself doing that. And then when I would
start running, I would run like a dummy and try
to run into people instead of trying to run away
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from the big and fast people too. And so it's
a group effort. But the goal is to not get
hit as much this year.
Speaker 9 (44:13):
What's it like, to be honest, what's it like being
a starting quarterback in college?
Speaker 5 (44:18):
What's it like?
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (44:19):
It's uh, I mean from for as far back as
I can remember, like I wanted to play football and
baseball at the highest level, Like how I wanted to
do them both for as long as I could until
somebody said, hey man, you are not allowed to do
that anymore. And look at me twenty two years later, right,
I'm living out my dream.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
It's like this is this is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
Yeah, but he means, yeah, I'm talking about like you.
It's like you're like to do I mean, yeah.
Speaker 12 (44:47):
Well I have I have a girlfriend named Lucy and
Lucy more me and her have been dating since the
junior year of high school.
Speaker 5 (44:54):
Okay, well, let's wratch that question. Nothing more you can say.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
You could say about the Mississippi thing, and I say
that somebody from markets that's the most Mississippi thing.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (45:02):
I was told once. I think it was either by
my dad or my grandfather. Did you find a good one?
Speaker 2 (45:06):
They let her go?
Speaker 5 (45:07):
And neither one a misisagree with you?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
No, we agree? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeahah, okay, final question, that question then, really, none of
the team's play las year. You're playing this year, that's right,
it's a complete one. Aig froo. Yeah, it's you're you're
Big twelve now, and I don't know how are you
guys approaching this season differently? You don't have a bunch
of tape of you guys playing these teams. Sure, so
what do you what are you doing to get ready?
Speaker 12 (45:31):
I mean it's it's everybody's pumped up, right, like from
the coaches to the players to the fans, Like we're
all fired up to being the Big twelve, right, and
when going to the Power five, I think we're like
the youngest Power five school by like thirty years or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Like, it's not close.
Speaker 12 (45:47):
A lot of eyeballs are going to be honest, when
you when you're you're the new guy on the block
playing really good football, there's a lot of eyeballs on you.
But what more would you want? Right, Like, what if
you had it your way? Would you not put it
like that? Would you not play against some of the
best teams in the country, or would you just go
play somebody that nobody really knows, right, And so we're
super excited, but I mean at the end of the day,
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football's football. You're still playing one hundred and twenty yard
field like, and you still gotta line up and say hut. Like,
and we have the personnel. I mean I think I
think you got it all from the top down, from
the coaches. I mean, we've got the personnel and the
team to do it on the offensive side of the ball,
to the defense side of the ball, special teams.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I mean, we're all three phases. We're checking boxes. And then.
Speaker 12 (46:34):
The place that we play in the Bounce House is electric. Right,
It's going to be up there as one of the
best stadiums in the conference.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
I think with the best fans too, And so.
Speaker 12 (46:44):
I think the best way to put it is we're
fired up and we're looking to perform at a high level.
And so I think that's how we tied it up
and put a bow on it. We're fired up and
championship standard has always been the standard at UCF, and
so that's kind of kind of what we're looking to
carry on and keep.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Doing well to end up. Like the highlight that I'm
still in the portal, that's right. I know we have
a lot of eyes and ears right here on this.
That's right, mostly because of him. But I'm still in
the portal.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
You're still available, that's right. Yeah, I've been I've been
there since seventh grade.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Hey, and you've been training.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
It's because you haven't mentioned it in a video.
Speaker 12 (47:15):
Yeah, yeah, now it's out, So get picked up YouTube.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Do all my years left? Yeah, and I got a
COVID here, I got like nine years.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
We've got a lot of ball. We got a lot
of ball. We love ball.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
You want to throw this up to us, yes, all, yeah,
we have some and we have some clothes to put on, like,
oh my good.
Speaker 5 (47:35):
But hey, if it goes too.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Fast, grab your hamstring and then take a break and
then we'll get up and do it again.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Thank you very much, appreciate.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
All right, that's it, Thank you guys. We'll be back
from our vacations early next week.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Yeah, because we're in Italy right now. We are all
in Italy, Yes we are.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
These guys joined me in the last when the John
Rice called me interviews playing everybody came over and joined.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Me in Italy.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Now it's us bones and his yep. And it's kind
of awkward because I have one bed. So what what stinks?
Speaker 3 (48:07):
What lightly stinks is that I have to miss the
first Arkansas game being there because of us coming back
in Italy.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
But it's a rent.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
It's a I don't want to say this in jinx it,
but it's a it's a game that we're paying.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, who you play? I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's on my I keep all
the games in my calendar on your personal calendar. Yeah,
that's funny. Do you actually put them in there yourself? Yeah,
wuc you Western Coastal, Western Carolina, Carolina catamounts. They're called
the catamounts, And yes, I do put on my calendar
and everybody else don't schedule over it. That's why I'm
(48:42):
touring and I'm not really doing there's almost it. Almost
there's a couple, but it was like, don't book me
on a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah. So that's it.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Have a great day, everybody, have a great weekend. Blow
the whistle.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
We're back. Hope you have a great week.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
And watch college football, collect your money.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
With the parlay. That's it.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Goodbye, bye a buddy.
Host
Bobby Bones
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