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I'm here to say that Bobby Petrino is offensive coordinatord
Arkansas and it's wild.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Blow the whistle. I got two updates. There's an extra
episode this week because I just got tw freaking updates.
I got to talk about. One is this thing and
it's not When I started to see other outlets covering
it and being like holy crap, I was like, Okay,
it's just not a personal thing. We can really talk
about it on this show. The second thing is the
bears in the bet.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I made that.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I said I was gonna make that. I think people
didn't think I was gonna make you did it so
and they almost blew it. But whatever, we'll get to
that too. I'm glad everybody's here. Why don't we start
with the bet so if you're new to this program, Oh,
I like that, the classic program. I like to at
least have a bit of authenticity with this is how
(01:21):
much I'm betting. Here's some of my picks. Is what
I did to a loser to win? Kevin told you
the games I boom and I got the information. And
it turns out that had a really bad weekend last weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It turns out I knew it was bad, but I
know it's as bad as it were. You have a
feeling when it's not going well. Yeah, but then I
just stopped feeling.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
He even texted me it's a bad weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's a bad weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So this is pre that Bears game over the weekend
n CAA football, I lost four nine and Ney dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh yeah, Oh it's a gud punch. So you know
that sucked? What was me to say?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I was like, I get a question, question, I got
to get back into this. Yeah, you tell the wife
about that? Oh yes, she knows I'm super No. No, no,
when you have a bad weekend, you say like, yeah,
I had a rough week.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I machine care.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
She knows this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There's one thing that I'm going to do. It's be
responsible with freaking money. Okay, you're labeling this as responsible. Yeah,
it's like if you were losing a quarter.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I know.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
And you say that, dude, and I when I drive home,
I'm like, god, oh I thought I made good money.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think it's all relative, right, yeah, all relative? So no, no,
that's not I also see if I'm starting to be like, oh,
like I stopped playing poker because I was getting too obsessed.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So no, And I told her I was like, any
of the Bears to win about five thoultard dollars on it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
She was like, are they any good? I was like, no,
watch you bet them? Why are we watching this game?
So okay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So I was down basically five four hundred and thirty
five dollars going into that game. So I bet five
thousand dollars on the Bears plus three, which is a
whack you bet, which is crazy because the Bears just suck.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, and Dobbs has been on a roll. He's been
on Okay, I would say a role he had.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I mean they blew the last game before that game,
he had a big entrance.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Oh non't need to playbook.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So all that press makes you say so he played
pretty good a role, though, I don't know if I
put it on that. So this is what's up I go.
I say on the show, it's give me my last bet.
If I lose of the year, it's about over anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I really which I didn't believe you when you said that.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I really enjoyed betting college football way more than a NFL.
I don't bet as much NFL I do some I
feel like I'm not near as good as betting the NFL,
or at least feeling like I'm as knowledgeable about what's happening. Please,
So I'm like, let's just give it a run, and
if it's over, it's over. I bet five thousand dollars
on the Bears plus three to win four thousand, nine
(03:58):
hundred and thirty seven dollars something like. That game starts
justin Fields is on fire. To start the game. They
drive down the field, He's like six for six, he's
making plays, he's sliding. It is perfect for the dumpoom
stalled phild goal on the first drive.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
If they missed, I think whatever it was, it didn't
feel that good because I felt like they were driving
all the way down.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, then it just turns into a dog crap of
a game where nobody's doing anything.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I was betting punts. Were you making them on eighty Nope?
I think we got more turnovers than punts. Really, so
I'm feeling pretty good.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
At one point in the game, when it's like nine
to three, maybe so the Bears are up, maybe six
to three, six to three. The point spreads messing on
my mind.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Here.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The Bears are up, and if the Viking kick a
field goal, I mean I'm I don't remember. I just
remember or they fumbled twice and almost cried.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
They were up nine to three and driving when you texted.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Me, okay, is that what it was?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And they had plus three because they had and then
they kicked a field goal regardless if the Vikings would
have scored again, it had been over for me.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Correct, And Justin Field's fumbled twice to try to give
it to them. Yeah, back to back, and my butt
was puckered, but I never cashed out. I kept sending
Eddie from way early on, I was like, cash out,
And what.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Did I say? Every time? Yes? You know the answer
is every time, yes, But.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I hit it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And so right now as it stands, I'm not down
near as much. I've total wager this year seventy nine
thousand dollars and I'm down about one thousand bucks.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's pretty good, man. That's entertaining right there.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh yeah, much time I spent watching games because I'm
like dialed in because of the one hundred bucks I bet.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
So we got you watching too, Lane and utsa dude like,
let's go baby, good job. So okay, that's the first thing.
I want to get that out of the way. The
second thing is Bobby Betray.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Who is the greatest razorback football coach of my lifetime.
He won the last two years before he left he went.
He won ten games in eleven games. He had us
a game away from national championship. People forget that because
we're a Lola Arkansas. We'll do a commercial then I'm
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some little pops online what ARKANSA I'll talk to Bobby
Petrino as the offensive coordinator. Now, Bobby Petrino wasn't loved
(07:41):
by the people he was close to there, but I'm
not close to him.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Who cares, Right, you're just a fan. It's like an
artist who says good songs. Sure, you're not asking, you're
not on the road, you're not his roading. You know,
he's not throwing whiskey at me. He's not throwing his guitar.
Good songs.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's all right, like win games. So the legend has
it and the internet that's the legend. And he was fired.
So some of the stuff's going to be a little
little muddley.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
There was this woman there. He's having an affair with
her at Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
He hires her to do a job, but he was
already apparently having the fair, allegedly having the affair before
he hired her. He also gave her a gift of
like twenty thousand dollars, like a cash for a car.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Who got it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
She was also engaged to, like one of the volleyball
coaches at the University of Arkansas. So he's doing his
deal whatever that deal is not gonna judge, yeah, a little.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Bit, I will, but.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It ends up getting found out where he got into
real trouble. Wasn't the affair coach that a fares all
the time. Sometimes you hear about it. Sometimes they get
pushed under. But he was paying somebody he hired, somebody
he was having sex with.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh he can't do that. There's a word for that. Yeah, yes,
So the word is bad. It's one of them.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So they have to fire him. Now what's happening before
that is he's out on a motorcycle. Remember the press
conference where he comes in a neck brace and his
face is all eat up.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'll never forget that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So they fire him.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He still does the press conference, but he comes in
and he's like road rash on his face, neck brace.
He's like, uh, apparently wreck the motorcycle. Had to call
the cops. The cops came, she was with him, had
to put her in the report. Nothing they could do.
That's how it was found out. He wrecks the motorcycle.
(09:38):
He's eat up, he's in a neck brace. I'm sad,
and this is what you call rock bottom.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's tough. So myth has it.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
On the internet.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It says unconfirmed allegedly big terms there.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Maybe the motorcycle accident didn't happen it was staged m hm.
Or maybe it wasn't near as bad and possibly the
fiance beat the crab out of them. Oh, they never
find the motorcycle like they did. The rumor is allegedly
(10:25):
possibly that that could have happened. Okay, they ended up
quitting the day after he was fired. It's a whole
dramatic deal. But I'm so happy he's back. He's learned.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Oh, people can be rehabilitated.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
How does the community feel though the artwork?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
We just want to win. We don't care win games.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't care if you graduated freaking player, don't graduate.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
A player, pay them all crimes, keep him wonder.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I just want to win, like I don't even care.
If we win a title, you have to take the
banner down in five years.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I know you're being funny, like, no, no, only partially
partially being funny, But this is these are conversations that
real programs.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, let's go, do we really care?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So what's interesting is, you know, he leaves Arkansas for
a while and does some coach and stuff. He goes
up to Missouri State almost beats us. He comes into
Arkansas a couple of years and almost beat us, goes
over to He's gonna be the UNLV offensive coordinator. But
before that job even starts, Jimbo Fisher hires him at
Texas A and M. The issue of Texas A and
M is and their offense was a little better, but
Jimbo Fisher's an offensive guy and really was just the
(11:29):
offensive coordinator wasn't one to play caller. So as much
as their offense improved a little bit, obviously, Jim Boke
still got fired, but he wasn't really able to run
the offense.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't know Bob petrainos an offensive coordinator, only knowe
was a head coach and he's doing some shady stuff too.
Back in the day, who was it exactly? He was
at it covering it up. Come on, But it's so
exciting to me. Who hires him? Like, who does the hiring?
You're a check and the big deal he's an eighty.
The big deal was he got fired for cause, and
then you can't rehire somebody when you fired them for
(12:03):
cause and they had to like overrule a law or something.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's awesome because we needn't we don't. We want to win.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
What about the kJ Jefferson stuff, because I'm about that.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, I literally just I've been in meetings for like
the past two hours. I saw nothing about him doing anything.
kJ jeffersons our quarterback. I'm not even open Twitter. Can
you tell me what the deal is?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So what I'm seeing is there are reports that he's
expected to leave to transfer portal enter the transfer portal.
Oh now he posted I just saw like an hour
ago or so on his Instagram. I haven't made a
decision yet.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, Arkansas's got a new nil called Arkansas Edge now
that they're bringing in. That's like four more million bucks
a year. Cool, So that's what's going to make the difference.
Can they pay more? What he makes a really good living? Now, yeah,
he does good.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
And then some people are saying it's because they're bringing
in Patrino, But I don't know about all that.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
kJ Jefferson's not really Petrino's type of quarterback. But kJ
Jefferson's a good quarterback, and that's Petrino's type of quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
kJ Jefferson is one of those guys that does a
lot of multi checks at the line, but he's extremely
athletics bright guy, but he's not up there trying to
dissect a defense with his mind. He's up there figure
how to run through them or how to get the
ball to somebody quickly.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
If he stays, great, If he leaves, I won't like that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I won't be that upset because I'm just now
going to trust this process. And by the way, this process,
it's one year. If they don't win next year, everybody's
gone from up there and everybody knows that it's awesome.
I can't wait. I'm excited again. I went from being
like this sucks, life sucks. Eight football, Let's go time machine.
I did message by Petrino, who I DMed him. Yeah,
(13:46):
and here's the thing, I don't know him because I
only started to have a little bit of a presence
within the program in the past, like seven or eight
years when I started A having a bit more notoriety
and b having a bit more money, because I would
just be like, I got money, let me donate it. I
want to be part of it. And so I never
knew him. I never met him. And I went on
Twitter because I tagged him in something. I was like, all, hell,
(14:07):
Bobby Petrino National Championship next year, partially kidding but not really.
And I saw he followed me on Twitter right after
you posted that. No, I went to I went, yeah,
but he didn't follow me after that. I actually, as
soon as I posted, I went over to his pag
real quick. I said, he follows you. Oh so he
must have. I mean he could have been following you
(14:28):
for a while. Then. Oh yeah, I'm assuming he was. Wow,
but I don't think he posts a lot. So I
messaged him thirteen hours ago. It's sent but not seen yet.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I guess he's probably got a lot of DMF you
go through.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Right, Yeah, but I mean, but not from you. Am
I a jockstrap sniffer? Because I messaed him immediately, I
was like glad to see you back, coach, Chip me anything.
Maybe in town in a few weeks if you're around,
here's my cel phone number. What do you think he
needs a friend from me? Understanding support? Okay, I can't wait,
(15:03):
I can It's crazy. It's like if Bill Belichick was
gonna go be offensive corner for somebody.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
To you, that's what he is. He is that big Tom.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
He's our greatest coach. He's a great coach in my lifetime. Again,
we had ten and two eleven to one seasons with him.
We were in the national top five, top seven.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, and the only reason it stopped is because he.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Had road rational his face neck brace. Hey whatever, he
does his own time. Jain hurting.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Kids are dogs, have at it, buddy, Wait you on that.
So I am as long as we're winning. I am
excited anyway. So those are two updates I wanted to
get on here today. Pretty good is there? We'll do
another show coming out later in the week. Is there
anything you guys would like to say?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Kevin?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This transfer portal is wild season hasn't even fully ended yet,
and Wilder and these players are just like Will Howard
from k State. He's leaving our team.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So here's another thing that's happening too with the portal.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Obviously, there's a lot of poaching where people are calling
going hey, we'd love to have you, or they're going
through people. But there's also like a dark money in
IL that's happening, which is you can pay anybody anything
to do anything. Oh you to sign doing this. Here
have twenty five thousand dollars doing this. Oh you're gonna
stay at the program. Okay, our collective will pay you
(16:25):
a million dolls whatever it is. But now the dark
money in ils are Okay, we're gonn give a twenty fifty
thousand dollars deal, but only one twenty five is gonna
be taxable that they know about. The other one twenty
five will be cash because these players are having to
deal with taxes.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
They're like partially dark money in IL.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
It's like going on a game show man, like, yeah,
it's cool you win a car, but then you got
to pay on that.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It just makes me wonder, like how long these players
have been bruined this during the season?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh did I be brewing at every game?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
That's crazy to me that you're able to play with
your team and be committed to your team quote unquote,
and you enter the portal three days of it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It's a business decision, that's all. Yeah. But there are
also kids though, like how responsible are they? Exactly? That's awesome, right,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I'll be thinking of money all the time, sure, especially
if you're a kid that comes from no money. I
mean when I was doing my last contract here, it
was on my mind every day for like seven months
and we just got wrapped up like a month and
a half ago. Every day because there was I was
just thinking about or somebody was, or I was having
a conversation with or.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
As every day.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Now, imagine if you're nineteen and other people are charping
at you too. Does it take the pressure off of
like draft and your next move you know where? Like
back in the day, you know, yeah, you made some
money under the table or whatever, but I mean your
big money was getting drafted in the NFL and playing
in the NFL. Here you're like, oh, I can make
(17:55):
some good money now because I might not get drafted.
It keeps people in college a bit longer if they're
making equal or more than they would if they were
a six seventh round pick or USFA Yeah, UFS a
unrestricted free agent Unris Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Oh I thought we're talking about usfl Ors.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, they talk about Steve Austin.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, yeah, yes, my letters man, I've been right, so yes,
and not only that, like a guy like k J.
Jeffers would probably have gone out for the draft and
been a fifth round pick and made eight hundred thousand
bucks a year, which is a great amount of money.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
However, he could probably make a million three.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That one percent of players can probably make a million
a million three if they go a quarterback, especially.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And potentially build his draft stock and bed do.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That as well.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Right, yes, so And what's cool though, too, on the
positive side of it is that I think a lot
of these scouts, like well have John midlecough fine later
in the week, who was an NFL scout, has his
own show now he had to go in just kind
of assume what players would do once they got rich, Like, Okay,
this is what they're like. They're gonna first second round picks.
Oh god, are they gonna go crazy when they get money. Now,
(19:04):
they're getting money already and you can kind of see
the decisions are making already.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Without real help.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So I think that's good for the next level because
you're not gonna have a lot of guys going in
the first second round that are paid millions of dollars
and all of sudden they're.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
All right, I'm gonna go crazy.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
It's like going to college after your homeschooled.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You kind of wouldn't know your homeschool forever, but now
you're gonna go away and go to college and go
You're gonna go, yes, now I'm in college. Say you
go to college. I'll say you go to homeschool for
up to grade ten, but eleven twelfth grade, you're like,
I'm gonna go to a private or public school if
you around other kids, and that's a little bit of
an integration to understand what it's going to be like
when you go off.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So I love it.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I watched that new Beckham that series. I just watched
one episode, but just talking about this, he talks about
how when he was younger, his first like major deal,
he would get the paid on Friday and it was
all spent by Sunday, which is wild. So his kids
are probably doing the same thing he was nineteen or
eighteen time.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
For sure, it'd be awesome, O can he not?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I wish it I'd been an athlete now instead of
back then, because back then, at make any money, you
would have been more.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Now. Have you all watched the Barry documentary on? Have
you watched that?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I watched it last weekend?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Okay, yeah, what is it? It's about Barry Sanders. No,
And I think it's always a Netflix or Hulu.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I believe.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
I keep seeing it, you know, pop up when I
sliding on shows or whatever, and I'm like, oh, I
want to watch that, but my wife doesn't want to
watch that with me, so I got to get my
own time.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, toulu, it's why you haven't seen it. I have not.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's why he retired early, like he finally talks about it.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Because the Lions are like a disaster.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I'm not going to get into spoilers.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
We have a new episode of Too Much Access up
with the BYU volleyball team. I'm surprised. I'm surprised at
how passionate people are for this one. It's a little different.
I don't know if it's it's more passionate. Obviously there
aren't as many volleyball fans as football fans just a
numbers game, but maybe they're volleyball fans are just so
so much more passionate. Yeah, but it's crazy people like
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you gotta do this cool. It's like we did volleyball
because it was kind of funny and we were there.
But also Heather ol Instead, like I don't often say this.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But she's like a g oh, yeah, she's awesome. Like
I was ready to.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Suit up and sit the bench. Yeah, and I don't
want to sit the bench, right, but just to be
under her leadership. So it's our sit down with BYU
women's head volleyball coach Heather Instead. She played it coach
as you wanted to call her. Yeah, I don't want
to call her Heather. She like everybody calls me Heather.
I'm like, I can't do that. I must respect you.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
She played at Utah State from ninety eight two thousand
and one. Was on the US professional team two thousand
and two two thousand and three. The tournament's this week,
so BYU is the four seed heading Cuba D one
women's tournament this week. Their first game it's Friday night
against Weber State at nine pm Eastern. Let's go, yeah,
follow the team's Twitter account at BYU Volleyball to keep
up at the tournament. Is this tournament like basketball where
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they do Friday Saturday or Thursday, Friday, Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean you look it up and the brackets
look the exact same.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But I mean, did they take the week off and
they go again.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Then they go again in the following weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I believe, So well, let's go. I'm rooting for him.
I mean, you got Arkansas in there too, are you there?
A three seeds? Are you torn at all?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
My arcants are always but they're on the same side,
I don't think. I think they're on different sides. So
hopefully maybe they meet each other at the end.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
They're on different sides.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, when does Arkansas play?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They play Friday at seven o'clock Ard time.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Who are they playing? Uh, Steemen at Boston? I think, right, yeah, yeah,
really you're torn?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
No, No, I went to same Housion State Seemen at
Boston with my That was Oh, so.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You're a big razorback guys.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, dude. That was the Battle of the Pines. Man
Battle of the Pines. That's why I looked like that
was like eminem and Marshall matters.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
They changed their name.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It was like, wrong with you, guys? All right, here's
coach Heather Almstad.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Before you walked in, Coach Eddie and I were talking
and we were debating on what to call you, because
I said, no, we have to call her coach, and
then Eddie said, no, why don't we just call her
by our first name?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Her name's Heather. I'm like, let's just call her Heather.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Hear you, but it's a well she called right, Okay,
I hear you, but Heather. But I feel like you're
doing a job that is very respectful. You're also a
very successful person at that job that I said, hey,
let's call our coach coach imps at at first, and
then if she's like, no, call me Heather, then I
probably still won't, but at least we know.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Yeah, I hear you. I got players that are the
same way.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
And does some of your players call you Heather?
Speaker 8 (23:30):
All my players call me Heather. But there's some players
that call me coach, especially younger players that are recruiting,
and some of it's culturally in their culture. It's respectful,
So I'd let it fly because if that's what they're
comfortable with calling me coach, then it's kind of endearing.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
So is that purposeful for the culture that you have
with your team?
Speaker 8 (23:49):
I started coaching at twenty three, and so everyone called
me Heather. I was an assistant coach all the way
up till twenty fifteen here at BYU, So it felt
weird all of a sudden in twenty fifteen to say no, no, no,
call me coach all of us, because you know, when
you're an assistant, it's and I was young. I was
almost their same age, so I'm okay with Heather.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And so since you were here and it stayed, the
name had to stay. I hate the name Bobby Bones.
And because it's not my real name, and so what
do we call names Bobby? Well, no coach Bobby, but
my name's Bobby. But when I was seventeen or eighteen,
they were like, your name's Bobby Bones, and everywhere I
went was connected to the last place I could shake
it because everybody knew it.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
So, uh, yeah, I'm gonna call you coach because I
think that what you really want.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
But he also coach. He also can't call his father
in law dad, or I've.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Never called him a name. He says, hey, it never
because I didn't know what to call him. Do I
say Bill? Do I say Pops? Do I say I
don't know? So I just decided warely on I was
calling him nothing.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I make eye contact him and speak and I've been
married for a couple of years now, okay, and never
one time. Now it's a running joke. I've never said
his name. So question one, is that bizarre?
Speaker 8 (25:02):
I think you might have some issues.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
I think I do too. That is correct, We all do.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
So it's okay.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Is there like a text thread of all the really
elite coaches? Do you guys like like Saban's on there?
I'm very close have a family member Patty Gasso's family
to me, she'd run the softball coach at Oklahoma. You
I put you in this category because you guys are
the elite of the elite. So what do you guys
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talk about in this text thread that you're going to say?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You don't you don't have?
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I mean, that would be worth a lot of money
if we could get that going. There is no text thread,
but if there were, I'd love to be on it.
I'd love to just learn and listen and soak up
all I could, So basically I have to go stock
Saban on Twitter and on YouTube and steal all his
quotes and then repeat it to my team, and I
usually give them credit.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Though our coach is pretty receptive to you going hey,
I'd like to come in and understand the culture of it.
Doesn't matter what program it is, but if you ask,
if you're to reach out to, you going to start
any absolutely.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
So I spent a week with Danny Ainge just recently
back in February, and he immediately offered up jazz practices
and meetings. I haven't taken them up on it. I
will in the off season for us. Things like that
happen all the time. Coaches in different sports are open
to letting their gyms or courts whatever be open to
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other coaches learning. So, especially in volleyball, I think it's
a good culture of hey, I want to come learn.
Is there a good time and people open up their gyms.
It's incredible and we're open as well. People that I
talk to know if they want to come learn, and
I can help. Mentoring has always been something that's interested
me since a young age. My dad was a coach
and so I've been drawn to mentors older coaches, people
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much wiser than me. Has always been an interest and
as I unfortunately get older and the kids stay the
same age at the mentorship for me to be mentors
to my players or other coaches in the community has
been exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Has your dad been a big part of mentoring you
or at least introducing you to other people that he.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Absolutely really Yeah, the legend Kathy Gregory at UCSB, A
Carl McGowan who who's here at BYU and his son Chris.
My dad has been an integral part. Karch Karai, who
he coached in high school at Santa Barbara High. Of
all sorts of mentors from all different areas of the
game that have been really influential and what I've done
as a coach and here at BYU.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
If you were to get on the court now, because
obviously you were on the US professional team too, but
if you got on and let's say, put on a
wig and you're like, hey, this is our new player, Cindy,
would you dominate today?
Speaker 8 (27:33):
No, I hate to lose, so I think I would.
I would hold my own I don't know if I'd dominate,
but I would. I would fire up everyone else on
the court to play better so they wouldn't notice how
bad I was. They would all rise up and I
would just try not to stick out.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
What were you like as What were like as a player?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
That's feisty?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Were you the goon to go fight the other team?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Like?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
What were you?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
I'd have to ask my teammates that. But I just
grew up in a competitive family. There's six girls, one boy,
win sister. We always had each other to play with
and to compete with. We grew up playing sand volleyball,
So I love the competition aspect of anything that you're
doing and trying to be the very best you can
while learning as much as you can. So I was feisty.
I was probably I've probably gotten some players faces. I
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tried to keep it on our own side, but I
I just wanted our group to be the best we
could be, and whoever you were playing, it really didn't matter.
I love the underdog role, and I think that suits
us at BYU We're I think in general our sporting
teams are underdogs, and for sure our our volleyball team.
I don't know if other people feel that way.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Out of the communities, you guys dominated, So I can't.
I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
As you got into underdog, I was like, that's just
not true. You've been in the top, you've been ranked
for like a one hundred million week in a row.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Now we're we're we got this new path that we're
trying to blaze and so we we can. We got
to find our way through the Big twelve as a
you know, a university and no.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Still don't really know it's not convinced, say sorry, but
you have a you have a real culture winning. You
were the first coach to hit the hundred division want
you're it. You're her when it comes to coaching. So
the underdocting doesn't really float anymore.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
All right, So how do you do this?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Because it equally is hard to keep a team motivated
that's winning and to continue winning because you can obviously,
as they say, rest on your laurels at times, How
do you keep your girls fired up?
Speaker 8 (29:18):
Gosh, that is such a good question. I think it's
that intrinsic motivation that we want to recruit in players.
They come to BAU to be high performing academically, spiritually, athletically, personally, socially.
That's the type of young women that we get in
our program and our staff is as well, So that's
already going to be intrinsically in them, and we, as
you're saying, just need to continue to find areas to
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challenge them, for them to be challenged where they can
get better in this this or that or hey, you're
doing really well in this area. Let's keep We want
them to play to their strengths. We don't want them
to always look at what they're not doing well. So,
this is what your strengths are, you know. It's like
all the greatest in any aspect, they know what their
strengths are Lebron Tom Brady, Michael Sortan, and then they
still on their weaknesses on the side, but they're not
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obsessed with those because they are who they are because
of their strengths. And that's what we want our team
to recognize and to get excited about those and then
dabble in some of their weaknesses in their spare time.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I have mid knowledge of alleyball. I could say I
know more, okay than somebody average. And it's like they
hit the ball okay, Like I know what Albert is.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Okay, what is that?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It's they wear a different jersey?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Why because they're the one that goes in and digs
it out of the ground.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay, and so there is a dig I heard of
that that's not the same, but that's like their job
to play defense kind of.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Yeah, libero and Italian means free, so they're at free beer. Libero, libero, libero,
I say libero. I call them bros because it's a
little tougher, like you're bro, let's go dig some balls.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
And so it's their job.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
They come in and out of the game freely, and
they don't cost us a substitution, so nobody's they're tracking them.
But you only get fifteen subs, so when someone comes
in and out of the match, you track it as
a sub. They go in and out like just mad women,
just like and nobody counts them. They can just go
in and out as much as they want.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Can they stand wherever they want.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
They can't go to the front row, and they can't
jump and spike it.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
So does that mean libertos are shorter.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
It typically means their expertise is going to be in
passing and defending, and so that leads to smaller players
that are quicker that can read the game just somewhat naturally.
It happens as they progress, as they start to specialize
in positions. But it doesn't mean you can't have a
five nine, five ten, five to eleven libero. And in fact,
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if they're long and they have length, we all would
want six foot liberros because you can extend more. Volleyball
is a game that's extended. Whether you set or spike
or you dig, your limbs are being extended. Very rarely
is the ball going to come right to you. It's like, oh,
here it is, You've got to play extended. So we
would like them to be taller, but the taller players
end up going into hitting or setting or blocking, and
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you end up getting smaller liberros.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
What's the position that's the real bulldog, the libero? Yeah,
for sure, it seems like it.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
They're they're feisty, they have to be loud, they have
to communicate well. They're usually the key cornerstone to your
defense and your passing, and that can really set up
your defense as far as hey, we're going to serve
and we're going to defend behind you, and our block
is going to be up there. I think setters are
also some bulldogs. They're like the quarterback. You know football.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I do know football and I know volleyball a little bit.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
So when you say, so, what position would you be?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I would probably I'd be the killer, the killer outside.
You can't jump.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
You can't have like one hundred kills a game. I
just love that they call it kills.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
You can't jump, Sure, I can, I can jump. How
tall is that net?
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Seven four?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I can't?
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Yeah, but I'm sorry the men's net is even higher.
But yeah, we just we are here, that's right, women's volleyball,
women's How do.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
You market this team?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And now would imagine every team is different to just
the student body into the community to come and watch
and support.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Cougar Nation is unbelievable. I mean we've had back to
back over three thousand. You know, we're playing these back
to back matches right now. A couple of times where
I think just our our players, the excitement, the way
that they play the game. You know, winning always breeds
interest in the community coming out. But our women are
just people of caliber that will go out and interact
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with the players, with the young young girls, with whatever
people interested in volleyball. And I think BYU does a
great job just getting get people excited about what By's
doing heading into the Big twelve and the opportunities we
have to be We're already in the nation, you know,
on bau TV was great, but now we're on ESPN
Plus and we're getting out there with football and I
think it's good. So I think volleyball is an exciting sport.
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I don't know if you saw one of the most
recent volleyball games on Sunday, had like one point six
million people watching it, you know, between Nebraska and Minnesota,
and that's legit.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah, the Nebraska the football stadium with even that was unreal.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
And I watched that tooty two thousand plus.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So cool, and it's cool for them, but it's also
cool for the sport absolutely, because one that was one
of the head stories just period of all sports a day.
It's like, look at uh, you know in Lincoln, Nebraska.
They're showing up for the volleyball team, which they do anyway.
They've a you know, they're very passionate about the team,
and they did the walk. It was just anytime you
can get anything in front of a bunch of eyeballs, yep,
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like that's a win. And so and I had a
buddy who played the show afterward, like the music part
of it. Any when you do big events here, like
what what's the goal here? You get to do something special?
Do you play only here where you get out and
you know on top of the mountain.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Oh, that'd be good.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
Yeah, Well we I hope in the snow ennis choose.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
And tennis racket choose though that they walk up in.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I think that's a good question. I think my players
asked after they saw the football, and I think basketball
did an exhibition too after that, iowa, maybe if we're
going to play in the Marriott Center where men's basketball.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
We were like, no, we like guys.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
We just love the coziness of the Smithfield House, and
we love the fans filling it up. And I think
the bigger you get if you could guarantee me that
we could fill it up. Sure, And it's not that
I'm afraid of that, it's just the Smithfield House brings
such a special, unique feeling to the community and to
our team. I told them no, but I think they
got mad because I think they think I didn't have
belief that we could fill it up, and I think
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we could.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Isn't the Smithfield That's pretty big though.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
It's five thousand plus.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Isn't that that's pretty big?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
I isn't that for a volleyball deva?
Speaker 8 (35:28):
What if we could get ten?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
No, no, I hear you, Yeah no, I was just
looking at pictures of it. It looks bigger than other
schools that I've seen. They're volume.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
It just depends on where you're looking. The Midwest has
got great crowds going right now. So just volleyball is
growing as a sport. It's it's popular, and we're getting
some professional leagues, a couple popping up, which is important
in case. Yeah, we're getting we have athletes in limited
and we have some other professional organizations. I think they'll
be two and twenty four, which is huge for our
players to know they can finish their careers and they
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can stay in states. I don't have to go overseas
to go play.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I had friends that as soon as they finished playing,
they had to go to every European country. Yeah, European countries.
I don't even know what existed? Was that volleyball bluelighty not?
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, so you do know volleyball? Yeah, little bit?
Speaker 8 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm not I thought you were switching sports on me.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
But I yea, yeah, I'm kind of an idiot, but
I I like that we have we have a.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Couple of players playing. Heather Nighting's playing in Turkey, Alexa
Gray's playing in Turkey. Ronnie Jones Perry is playing in Brazil,
so we have some BAU players playing for him.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
When you finished, did you play overseas?
Speaker 8 (36:31):
I played in Croatia? I loved it?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
What was that like?
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Amazing? No? It was it was amazing. I lived in Rieka,
which is on the coast. It's and I'm a beach
girl from Santa Barbara, so I'm drawn to the beach
and just outdoor.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
And that's why I love Utah. So Croatia was amazing.
I've been back many times.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I love it. I thought she was gonna say that
why I love you, and then she said, are you Croatian? Really? No,
I just thought she could join the interviews, like, that's
why I love you?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
I ta, did you start playing beach volleyball?
Speaker 8 (37:00):
I grew up on yeah, playing sand. My dad took
us to the beaches and we played on East Beach
where all great legends that grew up. And that's my
first love is sand. And had to play indoor, and
but I love indoor.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
What was the transition from sand to court.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Well, it wasn't really a transition. You grew up playing both,
so it never felt like a transition. But I like
sand because I like to be in control of the
game and it's two people and you get to touch
the ball way more so I love just owning it
and being able to just really develop all your skills passing, setting, hitting.
And then you get on a court of six and
the ball like hard that comes to you. You're like
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and then you're a libero and nobody serves you. So
it's the point of the libarro. They avoid the libarro.
So next time you watch a game, so how many
times the libero actually passes the ball, It's like, what
are we doing? They're not even serving them.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
What would you credit as the key to your winning culture?
You're a specific Yeah, are players one hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, but you're giving. But the players aren't playing. They
are no, no, no, you let you out me finish.
The players aren't playing until one you decide they can play.
And that's based on a couple of things. Their abilities,
how hard they work, their attitudes, and that's instilled to
them by you. Yeah, so what is it fundamentally what's
important to you? And you would credit just the winning too.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
Yeah, I think you know, you got to have the horses.
And so we like to identify players that can come
play at a high level, that are high performing. So
we want them to be high performing individuals mentally, physically, emotionally.
What do you want to accomplish because this is not
easy to play Division one volleyball anywhere in the country,
let alone at BYU where the expectations are high, the
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standards are high. We have standards that we believe you
should show up every day with them. We're going to
hold you to them. So I think holding people to
those standards, showing them the blueprint, this is what we
can accomplish. And I mean my brother hired me in
two thousand and eleven. He was the head coach. He's
now the men's head coach. Yeah, your brother was yeah, yeah,
he hired me here in twenty eleven and then he
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became the men's head coach and twoy and fifteen and
I became the women's head coach. But I believed in
the vision of the players and athletes that we were
getting and being able to win a national championship. And
in three years twenty fourteen, we got to the finals
and we played in the national championships and lost. And
then four years later in eighteen, we went to another
final four. So we're due for another final four. So
that's what we're working towards. But I think you know,
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the players, my staff, the administration, everyone working towards, you know,
just being the best you can be, whether that national
championship comes or not. We're excited about the journey of
becoming and what our young women could become through hardships, adversities,
highs and lows, winning, losing. It's about what are they
going to become after this and are they going to
be CEOs, business owners, mothers? You know, what are you
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going to do with your life? And how can we
help you be really good at that? And oh, by
the way, let's get really good at volleyball while you're here.
And they've been able to do that.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
How tall are you?
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Five nine?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
How tall is your brother? He's six to one, so
years aren't huge.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
No, he was a libero here. He won two national
championships with BYU.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
But why are you the better coach?
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Oh? No, he's really good.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I've been looking at some stuff we know you coach. Yeah,
we've been looking at young one hundred wins quicker than anybody. Yeah,
pull one over on us.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
It was two hundred. So you keep miss missaying No.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I stopped reading notes, Okay, I quit.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
I'm just kidding you. He you went to the finals
and fourteen and I haven't got there yet, so you know,
and he's got a couple of national championships, so he's
he's for sure the better coach, better athlete.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah, debatable. So you ever been hitting the face hard? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Many times, so hard the nose where your eyes are
all watery? And do you check yourself out or is
that embarrassing? Like because listen, if I got hit and
I was playing ball, even even baseball, I got hit,
I was like nothing, I'm gonna walk first, but it's
out of be like.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Oh, please get me out of here.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
Do you act like nothing happened?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
I would be like that didn't hurt?
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Yeah, I mean it's it hurts if you take it
off the nose directly, it's your eyes You're not gonna
be able to see because it just just your whole
face feels swollen and hurts. If it's off the side,
you can manage it much better like them. Good does
it black your eyes the nose, Yeah, you get a
little bit just you can't see because your eyes are
watering because it hurts. But if it gets you somewhere else,
you can usually move on from that. But uh, you know,
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we're a lot more aware of the what it does
to you to get hit in the face. Point blank.
It's it's it hurts, and our players can hit pretty hard,
so you know, we try to we try to make
sure everyone's okay.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
I wouldn't like that, and we.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Actually don't like that. Yeah, we we we want our
players to we treat we train them to apologize to
our opponents. I think it's you know, it's something that
when you're younger, maybe you think is cool if you
six pack someone, But as you get older and you
watch the professional leagues, they'll they'll put their hand up
and say sorry, right a ray away from the crossing it.
And I think that's something that we could bring to
our level. You know, in college, the respect and knowing
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that no one's trying to intentionally hurt anybody, but you
know that that that doesn't feel good.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
But let's say your mouth in a little bit, I'd
be like, sorry, stuffing.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
It's hard to aim, like there's a lot of things happening,
the balls moving from someone's passing platform to a set
to the air when you're jumping. So to think that
you can aim at someone, maybe you're really good.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
But I was you're that good.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
It's just usually doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, I'm gonna lead athlete whenever, and I don't know
the name of it and do it like one person
jumps and they fake it.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yeah, the third person is that like a play.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
Or that's a great question. I like your questions because
they're there. I don't ever think of them because they're
so basic.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Oh boy, oh boy, that's not all they're like super good.
What's the word elementary?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yea, so good. That's volleyball for dumbies. And I'm asking
the questions. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
No, I actually like that because our setter does call plays.
You'll see them hold their jersey and they call a
play with their hands, and so if the gym's loud,
it's like football, we have hand signals, and you don't
want the other team to know what you're running. And
so we have set plays and the players know what set,
what they're gonna play, run, and so everyone has to
jump as if they're getting set. And then that way
you hold the blockers on the opponent team. Does that
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make sense because they if you didn't approach and act
like you were, then they would the blockers would move
to where the person was actually getting set. So everybody
has to jump and fake it. But now it's like,
I'm like getting better ideas with like what you guys
are giving me some coaching ideas, Yeah, how to.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Throw off defenses well, and so if they got to
fake it, but it's only meant for that one, but they.
Speaker 8 (43:21):
Don't know that they're not getting set. Everyone thinks they're
getting the ball. Everyone expects to get the ball. She
doesn't show on your seat, she doesn't show. She shows
everyone what they're going to hit, but she doesn't tell
them who she's gonna set. So everyone thinks they're getting
the ball. So everyone's on high alert. And then once
she reads the other team and what's going on and
gets a feel for our pass. For instance, if we
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pass it way off the net, it's only going to
go to one person because you can't set someone in
the middle of the court. It needs to be a
really good pass. Does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (43:50):
It does make sense.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It makes me think though, that if I were an
NFL wide receiver and this happens a little bit now
and they're.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Like, give me the ball.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
I need the ball. Does that ever happen? Where?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, all the time?
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Like why am I not getting the ball all the time?
And then how do you manage that? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:01):
You talk about game plans and what we're trying to do.
Are we wanting to overload, are we wanting to exploit
a certain blocker. We want to look at our matchups like, hey,
we want to feed this person because of this matchup.
I mean, there are matchups with the other teams, and
so you talk to your team about what we're trying
to do. And then it comes down usually to your
ball control. Where how good are you handling the ball,
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passing defense. If your ball control is really good, you're
going to have a lot of options.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
All right, Final four questions four four? Okay, that's a
random number.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
We paid just four, and we just commit to it.
If you deflate a volleyball a little bit, or you
inflate volleyball a little bit.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Does that help? Are their rules to stop an advantage? Yeah,
you're good hitting it.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Though, right, yes, good question. The refs, I don't know what.
The refs check the pressure before every match, so so yeah,
the PSI, the refs have a little pump and they
check it. So you have to play it illegal. It's
on the ball what illegal is. But we do go
to schools. We'll practice a day before and all their
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balls are flat. It's wild. We're like, are you really
practicing with flat balls? So we bring around pump me,
pump them up. So the next day their balls are
over pumped.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Got them.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
What's the advantage if you both get to use the
same ball or do you change balls based on whose
serve it is?
Speaker 8 (45:24):
I think there's some advantage.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
You looked at question basic of all the questions, because
again with different sports, there is so you know.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
There's a lot about altitude sea level. We don't talk
about that. We just serve the ball, figure out how
to get it to float in the court. But we're
not going to spend too much time with you're at
sea level, you're at altitude, the balls flatter, it's deflated, like,
just figure it out get a feel for it. But
we like when we train for the balls to be
at the PSI that they're supposed to because that's what
you're going to play at in a game. So there's
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really no reason that you're going to play I don't
know why teams like to play with flat balls. Like,
that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
It hurts your ar, it hurts your artic I mean,
like the idiot, I got a good question.
Speaker 8 (46:07):
Yeah, that's a good question. It's a very good question, coach.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
So let's talk about travel. So when I travel with
my wife, I have to tell her all the time
we're going for one day. We don't need five pairs
of shoes, Like, we don't need what's the travel like
with the girls, Like is it you have to be
like guys, guys, No, you don't need extra bags, like
we don't have enough room.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
In the bus.
Speaker 8 (46:26):
No, they are so good with travel. They literally bring
the exact amount of practice sweats, matches, like you see,
no extra packing they because they have to carry their bags.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
Oh that's exat I should make my wife do that.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
It's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Dudes on the football team do the same thing. Like,
you don't have to being nineteen pair of organs. Yeah,
you know, I think it's just college kids more than anything.
Speaker 8 (46:46):
Okay, yeah, no, you you don't see that. With our team,
they pack their school books in their bags and so
they get a little heavy too, and so they're pretty
good at packing. We haven't had any problems with that.
I mean sometimes they maybe forget something that's on the
opposite end.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
You have everything, no exactly, so go home.
Speaker 8 (47:06):
It's the problem.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Well, that's your fault.
Speaker 8 (47:08):
Yeah, we usually have to go buy it. And the
jerseys is the biggest thing. We have some extra jerseys.
You have blood jersey in case someone gets blood, so
you have those. But we try to double check our packing.
But no, we do not have an over packing issue
with our team. I think it's just the basic what
do you need to practice match sweats, get comfy and
travel to and from and they look good. They got
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some swag, they look good.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Final two questions. I say that every time, just so
you know where we are.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Well. Also, we're a big fan of your head of
communications here, and he keeps looking at his.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Phone, so I feel like he's like, you got to go. Yeah,
that's what we feel like.
Speaker 8 (47:42):
No, he's off the whole day for you know, he
manages the whole shit. Yeah, I thought you were coming
to practice.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
We are, we are, we're going where Unless you're planning
on hitting at us and we're not.
Speaker 8 (47:51):
We could get you out there.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
You're not going to six pack us? Are you? Coach?
Is that what it's called?
Speaker 7 (47:56):
That's what she said?
Speaker 2 (47:56):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (47:57):
Why would be a six pack? If it's one in
the face?
Speaker 8 (47:59):
Actually, good question, like if you'd hit another basic question.
See it's so educational.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
That's a real quick.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
It's a good question.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
You're not an answer.
Speaker 8 (48:09):
I'm gonna have to google it.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Oh you don't know, so you just say it without
That's why I said it's a good question. All right,
I'm googling right here on this. That's do you know
what it is?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Because there's six panels like on the.
Speaker 8 (48:23):
You're making you're making me look silly.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
Now, so I don't know, let's say six making.
Speaker 8 (48:29):
Maybe I made it. Maybe maybe I made it up.
Maybe it's maybe it's because people took it off their
six pack on their stomach and.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
It's like I thought, I was like, don't hit me
my six pack? Okay, six pack in volleyball? What's the
defensive player goes up for an attack block and gets
a six pack smashed into her face and she can't
make a clean block.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Okay, we already knew that, But what's the root of it?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
I need like the Latin order six.
Speaker 5 (48:55):
Okay, examples on how I'm and I've lost interest of
what I meant. But okay, so here we are. What's
the goal macro micro micro this season, macro next five years? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (49:08):
I think always to become the best we can be.
How good can this group be? We have seven matches left.
How good can we be that we know of? And
then we get to play in the postseason. Let's see
how good this group can be. With the seniors that
are never going to play again, we try to pump
them up, motivate them that way. We have some fifth years,
we have some COVID kids that are having opportunities to
play longer. I'm motivating them by let's see how good
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we can become. Let's see if we can win, you know, championships.
What does that look like, conference national? What does that
look like in the journey to become that? I think
long term, you know, we want to get Bay's first
women's national championship. We're still searching for a women head
coach to win it. I think it's going to happen
in the next five years for sure. If it's no
women coaches won a national championship, and if it's there's
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so many great women coaches out there, like of course,
we want to. We want to be one of the
schools in contention. I could name five right now that
are in contention, you know, with women coaches, and it's
going to happen in the next five years. So that's important.
I think it's important to see women coaching and for
our women to see women in the sport that they
can get into coaching if they want that, they can
you know, be great role models for other players if
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you love the sport and you want to continue in it.
So just continuing to bring in the best young women
here to go off into the world and contribute to
society and be great examples of of b y U
and what what it can do for for people.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Who's the best volleyball player ever, women's women's That's a
good question, Michael Jordan of Volleyball.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
Women's volleyball.
Speaker 8 (50:33):
That is a good question because I'm very fond of carts. No,
I didn't accomplish very much. Oh gosh, that's a good question.
You know, there's some there's some great Olympians. I'd say
Logan Tom is one of the absolute greatest women players.
And now Jordan Larson, she's still playing with our national team.
She won helped Karts Cry and his staff win a
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gold medal in UH just recently, and she's going to
play in Paris in twenty four So Jordan Larson look
her up and Logan Tom really good.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
And I'm gonna look up six pack later. Yeah, and
you're gonna let me know and know the name of that.
Speaker 7 (51:07):
We're gonna figure out.
Speaker 5 (51:08):
And if you guys, where do they play the national Championship?
Speaker 8 (51:11):
Is it a tournament in Florida?
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Okay? If you guys do with the national in December,
we will be there there.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
We'll be there, promise.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
I love it. Yeah, because if.
Speaker 8 (51:18):
Is it just for clicks, like for your own benefit?
Speaker 5 (51:20):
No, And let me say this, no, it is not.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
We have First of all, we've not We've done this
show for like eleven different UH Division one school nice,
We've only done football.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
Okay, we have like five or six million views.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
It's slowly becoming something that we didn't really expect it
to be cool because I just wanted to go and
talk to people that have and uh maintained great cultures,
winning folkus. And this is the first women's program that
we've done. This first all or a program we've done,
we've done We've only done football.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
Wow. So it's not for clicks. But why are you.
Speaker 8 (51:53):
Branching into volleyball women's volleyball.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
Because of who you are on a loach? Because we
look for people that and this is not a joke.
I've been joking. I'm the guy. But we look for
people that.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Do it the right way but also do it the
right way, like they win while doing it the right way.
And there's only a few. There's only a few that
we feel very passionate about talking with. We feel like
if we didn't have microphones, we could learn a lot
from and so and that is pretty universal. And you're
respect it like that, you know, amongst a lot of
the other coaches that I thought you weren't a text
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thread with which you weren't, And so that question might
be though, yeah, I know, I think it's like fight club.
Speaker 5 (52:31):
If you're on texted, you don't talk about Snapchat?
Speaker 8 (52:34):
Can you imagine that way?
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Can you imagine like Sabans on Snapchat? How do I
it's just like his elbow?
Speaker 7 (52:40):
How do I get this to go funny?
Speaker 5 (52:42):
Thank you very much, congratulations, thank you everything. We the
blue is sick.
Speaker 7 (52:48):
He's been talking about the blues.
Speaker 5 (52:49):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
Just the color blue.
Speaker 7 (52:51):
Well, the deal is he's color blind. Yeah, so color
you can see, but no red and red.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
But the blue is a great blue. Like if I went,
we're talking to a coach, I won't say who, and
he was like, I hate the color. He has to
coach and that will be terrible. That would be hard
to wear it all the time.
Speaker 8 (53:08):
It would be hard.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
They hate the color.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I'm a massive Arkansas razor bag fan. I'm a donor,
I'm you know, I'm a doctor.
Speaker 7 (53:15):
He's a doctor of letters.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
He waits out, but I say my breath.
Speaker 6 (53:21):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
But they pretty good, you know they are? They are.
Speaker 8 (53:23):
They're very good. And the head coach is a former
b YU guy, Jason Watson, so you might need to
visit them. And his culture is amazing.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I will say, you're my team volleyball like it. And
if you go and play Arkansas be like they were.
Speaker 8 (53:36):
You there, we were like neck and neck top ten
and I think they're still up there. They just beat
Florida and three to oh, so they're they're cruising. I
saw the want to check them in the instead of
Black Tournament. They're gonna get make some ways.
Speaker 5 (53:48):
I don't give a crap about them. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
If you're there, we're there, all right, all right, coach
that we really we respect what you've done so much.
Thanks awesome, and we're gonna go and bit get six
packed a bunch in a minute.
Speaker 5 (53:58):
Yeah that's gonna be pretty cool.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
Yeah, thanks for We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (54:00):
Thanks coach.
Speaker 7 (54:01):
Thank you, Heather, No, not Heather, Oh what do you mean, coach, coach? Coach,
thank you coach Heather No, god, dang it.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
All right, all right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
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Speaker 3 (54:27):
Eddie. You get your glove on.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
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I'm here to say that Bobby Petrino is offensive coordinatord
Arkansas and it's wild.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Blow the whistle. I got two updates. There's an extra
episode this week because I just got tw freaking updates.
I got to talk about. One is this thing and
it's not When I started to see other outlets covering
it and being like holy crap, I was like, Okay,
it's just not a personal thing. We can really talk
about it on this show. The second thing is the
bears in the bet.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I made that.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I said I was gonna make that. I think people
didn't think I was gonna make you did it so
and they almost blew it. But whatever, we'll get to
that too. I'm glad everybody's here. Why don't we start
with the bet so if you're new to this program, Oh,
I like that, the classic program. I like to at
least have a bit of authenticity with this is how
(01:21):
much I'm betting. Here's some of my picks. Is what
I did to a loser to win? Kevin told you
the games I boom and I got the information. And
it turns out that had a really bad weekend last weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
It turns out I knew it was bad, but I
know it's as bad as it were. You have a
feeling when it's not going well. Yeah, but then I
just stopped feeling.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
He even texted me it's a bad weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's a bad weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So this is pre that Bears game over the weekend
n CAA football, I lost four nine and Ney dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh yeah, Oh it's a gud punch. So you know
that sucked? What was me to say?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I was like, I get a question, question, I got
to get back into this. Yeah, you tell the wife
about that? Oh yes, she knows I'm super No. No, no,
when you have a bad weekend, you say like, yeah,
I had a rough week.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I machine care.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
She knows this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There's one thing that I'm going to do. It's be
responsible with freaking money. Okay, you're labeling this as responsible. Yeah,
it's like if you were losing a quarter.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I know.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
And you say that, dude, and I when I drive home,
I'm like, god, oh I thought I made good money.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think it's all relative, right, yeah, all relative? So no, no,
that's not I also see if I'm starting to be like, oh,
like I stopped playing poker because I was getting too obsessed.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So no, And I told her I was like, any
of the Bears to win about five thoultard dollars on it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
She was like, are they any good? I was like, no,
watch you bet them? Why are we watching this game?
So okay.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So I was down basically five four hundred and thirty
five dollars going into that game. So I bet five
thousand dollars on the Bears plus three, which is a
whack you bet, which is crazy because the Bears just suck.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Yeah, and Dobbs has been on a roll. He's been
on Okay, I would say a role he had.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I mean they blew the last game before that game,
he had a big entrance.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Oh non't need to playbook.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So all that press makes you say so he played
pretty good a role, though, I don't know if I
put it on that. So this is what's up I go.
I say on the show, it's give me my last bet.
If I lose of the year, it's about over anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I really which I didn't believe you when you said that.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I really enjoyed betting college football way more than a NFL.
I don't bet as much NFL I do some I
feel like I'm not near as good as betting the NFL,
or at least feeling like I'm as knowledgeable about what's happening. Please,
So I'm like, let's just give it a run, and
if it's over, it's over. I bet five thousand dollars
on the Bears plus three to win four thousand, nine
(03:58):
hundred and thirty seven dollars something like. That game starts
justin Fields is on fire. To start the game. They
drive down the field, He's like six for six, he's
making plays, he's sliding. It is perfect for the dumpoom
stalled phild goal on the first drive.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Correct.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
If they missed, I think whatever it was, it didn't
feel that good because I felt like they were driving
all the way down.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, then it just turns into a dog crap of
a game where nobody's doing anything.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I was betting punts. Were you making them on eighty Nope?
I think we got more turnovers than punts. Really, so
I'm feeling pretty good.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
At one point in the game, when it's like nine
to three, maybe so the Bears are up, maybe six
to three, six to three. The point spreads messing on
my mind.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Here.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The Bears are up, and if the Viking kick a
field goal, I mean I'm I don't remember. I just
remember or they fumbled twice and almost cried.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
They were up nine to three and driving when you texted.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Me, okay, is that what it was?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And they had plus three because they had and then
they kicked a field goal regardless if the Vikings would
have scored again, it had been over for me.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Correct, And Justin Field's fumbled twice to try to give
it to them. Yeah, back to back, and my butt
was puckered, but I never cashed out. I kept sending
Eddie from way early on, I was like, cash out,
And what.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Did I say? Every time? Yes? You know the answer
is every time, yes, But.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I hit it.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And so right now as it stands, I'm not down
near as much. I've total wager this year seventy nine
thousand dollars and I'm down about one thousand bucks.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
It's pretty good, man. That's entertaining right there.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh yeah, much time I spent watching games because I'm
like dialed in because of the one hundred bucks I bet.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
So we got you watching too, Lane and utsa dude like,
let's go baby, good job. So okay, that's the first thing.
I want to get that out of the way. The
second thing is Bobby Betray.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Who is the greatest razorback football coach of my lifetime.
He won the last two years before he left he went.
He won ten games in eleven games. He had us
a game away from national championship. People forget that because
we're a Lola Arkansas. We'll do a commercial then I'm
gonna tell you what the deal is.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh, we got to wait.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
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some little pops online what ARKANSA I'll talk to Bobby
Petrino as the offensive coordinator. Now, Bobby Petrino wasn't loved
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by the people he was close to there, but I'm
not close to him.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Who cares, Right, you're just a fan. It's like an
artist who says good songs. Sure, you're not asking, you're
not on the road, you're not his roading. You know,
he's not throwing whiskey at me. He's not throwing his guitar.
Good songs.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's all right, like win games. So the legend has
it and the internet that's the legend. And he was fired.
So some of the stuff's going to be a little
little muddley.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
There was this woman there. He's having an affair with
her at Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
He hires her to do a job, but he was
already apparently having the fair, allegedly having the affair before
he hired her. He also gave her a gift of
like twenty thousand dollars, like a cash for a car.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Who got it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
She was also engaged to, like one of the volleyball
coaches at the University of Arkansas. So he's doing his
deal whatever that deal is not gonna judge, yeah, a little.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Bit, I will, but.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It ends up getting found out where he got into
real trouble. Wasn't the affair coach that a fares all
the time. Sometimes you hear about it. Sometimes they get
pushed under. But he was paying somebody he hired, somebody
he was having sex with.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh he can't do that. There's a word for that. Yeah, yes,
So the word is bad. It's one of them.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
So they have to fire him. Now what's happening before
that is he's out on a motorcycle. Remember the press
conference where he comes in a neck brace and his
face is all eat up.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'll never forget that.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So they fire him.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
He still does the press conference, but he comes in
and he's like road rash on his face, neck brace.
He's like, uh, apparently wreck the motorcycle. Had to call
the cops. The cops came, she was with him, had
to put her in the report. Nothing they could do.
That's how it was found out. He wrecks the motorcycle.
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He's eat up, he's in a neck brace. I'm sad,
and this is what you call rock bottom.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It's tough. So myth has it.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
On the internet.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
It says unconfirmed allegedly big terms there.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Maybe the motorcycle accident didn't happen it was staged m hm.
Or maybe it wasn't near as bad and possibly the
fiance beat the crab out of them. Oh, they never
find the motorcycle like they did. The rumor is allegedly
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possibly that that could have happened. Okay, they ended up
quitting the day after he was fired. It's a whole
dramatic deal. But I'm so happy he's back. He's learned.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Oh, people can be rehabilitated.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
How does the community feel though the artwork?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
We just want to win. We don't care win games.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I don't care if you graduated freaking player, don't graduate.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
A player, pay them all crimes, keep him wonder.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I just want to win, like I don't even care.
If we win a title, you have to take the
banner down in five years.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I know you're being funny, like, no, no, only partially
partially being funny, But this is these are conversations that
real programs.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, let's go, do we really care?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So what's interesting is, you know, he leaves Arkansas for
a while and does some coach and stuff. He goes
up to Missouri State almost beats us. He comes into
Arkansas a couple of years and almost beat us, goes
over to He's gonna be the UNLV offensive coordinator. But
before that job even starts, Jimbo Fisher hires him at
Texas A and M. The issue of Texas A and
M is and their offense was a little better, but
Jimbo Fisher's an offensive guy and really was just the
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offensive coordinator wasn't one to play caller. So as much
as their offense improved a little bit, obviously, Jim Boke
still got fired, but he wasn't really able to run
the offense.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I don't know Bob petrainos an offensive coordinator, only knowe
was a head coach and he's doing some shady stuff too.
Back in the day, who was it exactly? He was
at it covering it up. Come on, But it's so
exciting to me. Who hires him? Like, who does the hiring?
You're a check and the big deal he's an eighty.
The big deal was he got fired for cause, and
then you can't rehire somebody when you fired them for
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cause and they had to like overrule a law or something.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's awesome because we needn't we don't. We want to win.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
What about the kJ Jefferson stuff, because I'm about that.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, I literally just I've been in meetings for like
the past two hours. I saw nothing about him doing anything.
kJ jeffersons our quarterback. I'm not even open Twitter. Can
you tell me what the deal is?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
So what I'm seeing is there are reports that he's
expected to leave to transfer portal enter the transfer portal.
Oh now he posted I just saw like an hour
ago or so on his Instagram. I haven't made a
decision yet.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, Arkansas's got a new nil called Arkansas Edge now
that they're bringing in. That's like four more million bucks
a year. Cool, So that's what's going to make the difference.
Can they pay more? What he makes a really good living? Now, yeah,
he does good.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
And then some people are saying it's because they're bringing
in Patrino, But I don't know about all that.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
kJ Jefferson's not really Petrino's type of quarterback. But kJ
Jefferson's a good quarterback, and that's Petrino's type of quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
kJ Jefferson is one of those guys that does a
lot of multi checks at the line, but he's extremely
athletics bright guy, but he's not up there trying to
dissect a defense with his mind. He's up there figure
how to run through them or how to get the
ball to somebody quickly.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
If he stays, great, If he leaves, I won't like that.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
But I won't be that upset because I'm just now
going to trust this process. And by the way, this process,
it's one year. If they don't win next year, everybody's
gone from up there and everybody knows that it's awesome.
I can't wait. I'm excited again. I went from being
like this sucks, life sucks. Eight football, Let's go time machine.
I did message by Petrino, who I DMed him. Yeah,
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and here's the thing, I don't know him because I
only started to have a little bit of a presence
within the program in the past, like seven or eight
years when I started A having a bit more notoriety
and b having a bit more money, because I would
just be like, I got money, let me donate it. I
want to be part of it. And so I never
knew him. I never met him. And I went on
Twitter because I tagged him in something. I was like, all, hell,
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Bobby Petrino National Championship next year, partially kidding but not really.
And I saw he followed me on Twitter right after
you posted that. No, I went to I went, yeah,
but he didn't follow me after that. I actually, as
soon as I posted, I went over to his pag
real quick. I said, he follows you. Oh so he
must have. I mean he could have been following you
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for a while. Then. Oh yeah, I'm assuming he was. Wow,
but I don't think he posts a lot. So I
messaged him thirteen hours ago. It's sent but not seen yet.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I guess he's probably got a lot of DMF you
go through.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Right, Yeah, but I mean, but not from you. Am
I a jockstrap sniffer? Because I messaed him immediately, I
was like glad to see you back, coach, Chip me anything.
Maybe in town in a few weeks if you're around,
here's my cel phone number. What do you think he
needs a friend from me? Understanding support? Okay, I can't wait,
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I can It's crazy. It's like if Bill Belichick was
gonna go be offensive corner for somebody.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
To you, that's what he is. He is that big Tom.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
He's our greatest coach. He's a great coach in my lifetime. Again,
we had ten and two eleven to one seasons with him.
We were in the national top five, top seven.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, and the only reason it stopped is because he.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Had road rational his face neck brace. Hey whatever, he
does his own time. Jain hurting.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Kids are dogs, have at it, buddy, Wait you on that.
So I am as long as we're winning. I am
excited anyway. So those are two updates I wanted to
get on here today. Pretty good is there? We'll do
another show coming out later in the week. Is there
anything you guys would like to say?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Kevin?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
This transfer portal is wild season hasn't even fully ended yet,
and Wilder and these players are just like Will Howard
from k State. He's leaving our team.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
So here's another thing that's happening too with the portal.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Obviously, there's a lot of poaching where people are calling
going hey, we'd love to have you, or they're going
through people. But there's also like a dark money in
IL that's happening, which is you can pay anybody anything
to do anything. Oh you to sign doing this. Here
have twenty five thousand dollars doing this. Oh you're gonna
stay at the program. Okay, our collective will pay you
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a million dolls whatever it is. But now the dark
money in ils are Okay, we're gonn give a twenty fifty
thousand dollars deal, but only one twenty five is gonna
be taxable that they know about. The other one twenty
five will be cash because these players are having to
deal with taxes.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
They're like partially dark money in IL.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
It's like going on a game show man, like, yeah,
it's cool you win a car, but then you got
to pay on that.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It just makes me wonder, like how long these players
have been bruined this during the season?
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Oh did I be brewing at every game?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
That's crazy to me that you're able to play with
your team and be committed to your team quote unquote,
and you enter the portal three days of it.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It's a business decision, that's all. Yeah. But there are
also kids though, like how responsible are they? Exactly? That's awesome, right,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I'll be thinking of money all the time, sure, especially
if you're a kid that comes from no money. I
mean when I was doing my last contract here, it
was on my mind every day for like seven months
and we just got wrapped up like a month and
a half ago. Every day because there was I was
just thinking about or somebody was, or I was having
a conversation with or.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
As every day.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Now, imagine if you're nineteen and other people are charping
at you too. Does it take the pressure off of
like draft and your next move you know where? Like
back in the day, you know, yeah, you made some
money under the table or whatever, but I mean your
big money was getting drafted in the NFL and playing
in the NFL. Here you're like, oh, I can make
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some good money now because I might not get drafted.
It keeps people in college a bit longer if they're
making equal or more than they would if they were
a six seventh round pick or USFA Yeah, UFS a
unrestricted free agent Unris Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Oh I thought we're talking about usfl Ors.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, they talk about Steve Austin.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, yeah, yes, my letters man, I've been right, so yes,
and not only that, like a guy like k J.
Jeffers would probably have gone out for the draft and
been a fifth round pick and made eight hundred thousand
bucks a year, which is a great amount of money.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
However, he could probably make a million three.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That one percent of players can probably make a million
a million three if they go a quarterback, especially.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
And potentially build his draft stock and bed do.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
That as well.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Right, yes, so And what's cool though, too, on the
positive side of it is that I think a lot
of these scouts, like well have John midlecough fine later
in the week, who was an NFL scout, has his
own show now he had to go in just kind
of assume what players would do once they got rich, Like, Okay,
this is what they're like. They're gonna first second round picks.
Oh god, are they gonna go crazy when they get money. Now,
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they're getting money already and you can kind of see
the decisions are making already.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Without real help.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
So I think that's good for the next level because
you're not gonna have a lot of guys going in
the first second round that are paid millions of dollars
and all of sudden they're.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
All right, I'm gonna go crazy.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
It's like going to college after your homeschooled.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
You kind of wouldn't know your homeschool forever, but now
you're gonna go away and go to college and go
You're gonna go, yes, now I'm in college. Say you
go to college. I'll say you go to homeschool for
up to grade ten, but eleven twelfth grade, you're like,
I'm gonna go to a private or public school if
you around other kids, and that's a little bit of
an integration to understand what it's going to be like
when you go off.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
So I love it.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I watched that new Beckham that series. I just watched
one episode, but just talking about this, he talks about
how when he was younger, his first like major deal,
he would get the paid on Friday and it was
all spent by Sunday, which is wild. So his kids
are probably doing the same thing he was nineteen or
eighteen time.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
For sure, it'd be awesome, O can he not?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I wish it I'd been an athlete now instead of
back then, because back then, at make any money, you
would have been more.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Now. Have you all watched the Barry documentary on? Have
you watched that?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I watched it last weekend?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
Okay, yeah, what is it? It's about Barry Sanders. No,
And I think it's always a Netflix or Hulu.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
I believe.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
I keep seeing it, you know, pop up when I
sliding on shows or whatever, and I'm like, oh, I
want to watch that, but my wife doesn't want to
watch that with me, so I got to get my
own time.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
To do that.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, toulu, it's why you haven't seen it. I have not.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
It's why he retired early, like he finally talks about it.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Because the Lions are like a disaster.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I'm not going to get into spoilers.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Kevin.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
We have a new episode of Too Much Access up
with the BYU volleyball team. I'm surprised. I'm surprised at
how passionate people are for this one. It's a little different.
I don't know if it's it's more passionate. Obviously there
aren't as many volleyball fans as football fans just a
numbers game, but maybe they're volleyball fans are just so
so much more passionate. Yeah, but it's crazy people like
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you gotta do this cool. It's like we did volleyball
because it was kind of funny and we were there.
But also Heather ol Instead, like I don't often say this.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
But she's like a g oh, yeah, she's awesome. Like
I was ready to.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Suit up and sit the bench. Yeah, and I don't
want to sit the bench, right, but just to be
under her leadership. So it's our sit down with BYU
women's head volleyball coach Heather Instead. She played it coach
as you wanted to call her. Yeah, I don't want
to call her Heather. She like everybody calls me Heather.
I'm like, I can't do that. I must respect you.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
She played at Utah State from ninety eight two thousand
and one. Was on the US professional team two thousand
and two two thousand and three. The tournament's this week,
so BYU is the four seed heading Cuba D one
women's tournament this week. Their first game it's Friday night
against Weber State at nine pm Eastern. Let's go, yeah,
follow the team's Twitter account at BYU Volleyball to keep
up at the tournament. Is this tournament like basketball where
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they do Friday Saturday or Thursday, Friday, Saturday Sunday.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean you look it up and the brackets
look the exact same.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But I mean, did they take the week off and
they go again.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Then they go again in the following weekend?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I believe, So well, let's go. I'm rooting for him.
I mean, you got Arkansas in there too, are you there?
A three seeds? Are you torn at all?
Speaker 6 (22:12):
My arcants are always but they're on the same side,
I don't think. I think they're on different sides. So
hopefully maybe they meet each other at the end.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
They're on different sides.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, when does Arkansas play?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They play Friday at seven o'clock Ard time.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Who are they playing? Uh, Steemen at Boston? I think, right, yeah, yeah,
really you're torn?
Speaker 6 (22:33):
No, No, I went to same Housion State Seemen at
Boston with my That was Oh, so.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
You're a big razorback guys.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, dude. That was the Battle of the Pines. Man
Battle of the Pines. That's why I looked like that
was like eminem and Marshall matters.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
They changed their name.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
It was like, wrong with you, guys? All right, here's
coach Heather Almstad.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Before you walked in, Coach Eddie and I were talking
and we were debating on what to call you, because
I said, no, we have to call her coach, and
then Eddie said, no, why don't we just call her
by our first name?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
Her name's Heather. I'm like, let's just call her Heather.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Hear you, but it's a well she called right, Okay,
I hear you, but Heather. But I feel like you're
doing a job that is very respectful. You're also a
very successful person at that job that I said, hey,
let's call our coach coach imps at at first, and
then if she's like, no, call me Heather, then I
probably still won't, but at least we know.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Yeah, I hear you. I got players that are the
same way.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
And does some of your players call you Heather?
Speaker 8 (23:30):
All my players call me Heather. But there's some players
that call me coach, especially younger players that are recruiting,
and some of it's culturally in their culture. It's respectful,
So I'd let it fly because if that's what they're
comfortable with calling me coach, then it's kind of endearing.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
So is that purposeful for the culture that you have
with your team?
Speaker 8 (23:49):
I started coaching at twenty three, and so everyone called
me Heather. I was an assistant coach all the way
up till twenty fifteen here at BYU, So it felt
weird all of a sudden in twenty fifteen to say no, no, no,
call me coach all of us, because you know, when
you're an assistant, it's and I was young. I was
almost their same age, so I'm okay with Heather.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And so since you were here and it stayed, the
name had to stay. I hate the name Bobby Bones.
And because it's not my real name, and so what
do we call names Bobby? Well, no coach Bobby, but
my name's Bobby. But when I was seventeen or eighteen,
they were like, your name's Bobby Bones, and everywhere I
went was connected to the last place I could shake
it because everybody knew it.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
So, uh, yeah, I'm gonna call you coach because I
think that what you really want.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
But he also coach. He also can't call his father
in law dad, or I've.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Never called him a name. He says, hey, it never
because I didn't know what to call him. Do I
say Bill? Do I say Pops? Do I say I
don't know? So I just decided warely on I was
calling him nothing.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I make eye contact him and speak and I've been
married for a couple of years now, okay, and never
one time. Now it's a running joke. I've never said
his name. So question one, is that bizarre?
Speaker 8 (25:02):
I think you might have some issues.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
I think I do too. That is correct, We all do.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
So it's okay.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Is there like a text thread of all the really
elite coaches? Do you guys like like Saban's on there?
I'm very close have a family member Patty Gasso's family
to me, she'd run the softball coach at Oklahoma. You
I put you in this category because you guys are
the elite of the elite. So what do you guys
(25:29):
talk about in this text thread that you're going to say?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You don't you don't have?
Speaker 8 (25:31):
I mean, that would be worth a lot of money
if we could get that going. There is no text thread,
but if there were, I'd love to be on it.
I'd love to just learn and listen and soak up
all I could, So basically I have to go stock
Saban on Twitter and on YouTube and steal all his
quotes and then repeat it to my team, and I
usually give them credit.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Though our coach is pretty receptive to you going hey,
I'd like to come in and understand the culture of it.
Doesn't matter what program it is, but if you ask,
if you're to reach out to, you going to start
any absolutely.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
So I spent a week with Danny Ainge just recently
back in February, and he immediately offered up jazz practices
and meetings. I haven't taken them up on it. I
will in the off season for us. Things like that
happen all the time. Coaches in different sports are open
to letting their gyms or courts whatever be open to
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other coaches learning. So, especially in volleyball, I think it's
a good culture of hey, I want to come learn.
Is there a good time and people open up their gyms.
It's incredible and we're open as well. People that I
talk to know if they want to come learn, and
I can help. Mentoring has always been something that's interested
me since a young age. My dad was a coach
and so I've been drawn to mentors older coaches, people
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much wiser than me. Has always been an interest and
as I unfortunately get older and the kids stay the
same age at the mentorship for me to be mentors
to my players or other coaches in the community has
been exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Has your dad been a big part of mentoring you
or at least introducing you to other people that he.
Speaker 8 (27:01):
Absolutely really Yeah, the legend Kathy Gregory at UCSB, A
Carl McGowan who who's here at BYU and his son Chris.
My dad has been an integral part. Karch Karai, who
he coached in high school at Santa Barbara High. Of
all sorts of mentors from all different areas of the
game that have been really influential and what I've done
as a coach and here at BYU.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
If you were to get on the court now, because
obviously you were on the US professional team too, but
if you got on and let's say, put on a
wig and you're like, hey, this is our new player, Cindy,
would you dominate today?
Speaker 8 (27:33):
No, I hate to lose, so I think I would.
I would hold my own I don't know if I'd dominate,
but I would. I would fire up everyone else on
the court to play better so they wouldn't notice how
bad I was. They would all rise up and I
would just try not to stick out.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
What were you like as What were like as a player?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
That's feisty?
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Were you the goon to go fight the other team?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Like?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
What were you?
Speaker 8 (27:54):
I'd have to ask my teammates that. But I just
grew up in a competitive family. There's six girls, one boy,
win sister. We always had each other to play with
and to compete with. We grew up playing sand volleyball,
So I love the competition aspect of anything that you're
doing and trying to be the very best you can
while learning as much as you can. So I was feisty.
I was probably I've probably gotten some players faces. I
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tried to keep it on our own side, but I
I just wanted our group to be the best we
could be, and whoever you were playing, it really didn't matter.
I love the underdog role, and I think that suits
us at BYU We're I think in general our sporting
teams are underdogs, and for sure our our volleyball team.
I don't know if other people feel that way.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Out of the communities, you guys dominated, So I can't.
I can't.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
As you got into underdog, I was like, that's just
not true. You've been in the top, you've been ranked
for like a one hundred million week in a row.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Now we're we're we got this new path that we're
trying to blaze and so we we can. We got
to find our way through the Big twelve as a
you know, a university and no.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Still don't really know it's not convinced, say sorry, but
you have a you have a real culture winning. You
were the first coach to hit the hundred division want
you're it. You're her when it comes to coaching. So
the underdocting doesn't really float anymore.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
All right, So how do you do this?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Because it equally is hard to keep a team motivated
that's winning and to continue winning because you can obviously,
as they say, rest on your laurels at times, How
do you keep your girls fired up?
Speaker 8 (29:18):
Gosh, that is such a good question. I think it's
that intrinsic motivation that we want to recruit in players.
They come to BAU to be high performing academically, spiritually, athletically, personally, socially.
That's the type of young women that we get in
our program and our staff is as well, So that's
already going to be intrinsically in them, and we, as
you're saying, just need to continue to find areas to
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challenge them, for them to be challenged where they can
get better in this this or that or hey, you're
doing really well in this area. Let's keep We want
them to play to their strengths. We don't want them
to always look at what they're not doing well. So,
this is what your strengths are, you know. It's like
all the greatest in any aspect, they know what their
strengths are Lebron Tom Brady, Michael Sortan, and then they
still on their weaknesses on the side, but they're not
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obsessed with those because they are who they are because
of their strengths. And that's what we want our team
to recognize and to get excited about those and then
dabble in some of their weaknesses in their spare time.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I have mid knowledge of alleyball. I could say I
know more, okay than somebody average. And it's like they
hit the ball okay, Like I know what Albert is.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Okay, what is that?
Speaker 7 (30:21):
It's they wear a different jersey?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Why because they're the one that goes in and digs
it out of the ground.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Okay, and so there is a dig I heard of
that that's not the same, but that's like their job
to play defense kind of.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Yeah, libero and Italian means free, so they're at free beer. Libero, libero, libero,
I say libero. I call them bros because it's a
little tougher, like you're bro, let's go dig some balls.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
And so it's their job.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
They come in and out of the game freely, and
they don't cost us a substitution, so nobody's they're tracking them.
But you only get fifteen subs, so when someone comes
in and out of the match, you track it as
a sub. They go in and out like just mad women,
just like and nobody counts them. They can just go
in and out as much as they want.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Can they stand wherever they want.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
They can't go to the front row, and they can't
jump and spike it.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
So does that mean libertos are shorter.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
It typically means their expertise is going to be in
passing and defending, and so that leads to smaller players
that are quicker that can read the game just somewhat naturally.
It happens as they progress, as they start to specialize
in positions. But it doesn't mean you can't have a
five nine, five ten, five to eleven libero. And in fact,
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if they're long and they have length, we all would
want six foot liberros because you can extend more. Volleyball
is a game that's extended. Whether you set or spike
or you dig, your limbs are being extended. Very rarely
is the ball going to come right to you. It's like, oh,
here it is, You've got to play extended. So we
would like them to be taller, but the taller players
end up going into hitting or setting or blocking, and
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you end up getting smaller liberros.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
What's the position that's the real bulldog, the libero? Yeah,
for sure, it seems like it.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
They're they're feisty, they have to be loud, they have
to communicate well. They're usually the key cornerstone to your
defense and your passing, and that can really set up
your defense as far as hey, we're going to serve
and we're going to defend behind you, and our block
is going to be up there. I think setters are
also some bulldogs. They're like the quarterback. You know football.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
I do know football and I know volleyball a little bit.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
So when you say, so, what position would you be?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I would probably I'd be the killer, the killer outside.
You can't jump.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
You can't have like one hundred kills a game. I
just love that they call it kills.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
You can't jump, Sure, I can, I can jump. How
tall is that net?
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Seven four?
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I can't?
Speaker 8 (32:43):
Yeah, but I'm sorry the men's net is even higher.
But yeah, we just we are here, that's right, women's volleyball,
women's How do.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
You market this team?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And now would imagine every team is different to just
the student body into the community to come and watch
and support.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Cougar Nation is unbelievable. I mean we've had back to
back over three thousand. You know, we're playing these back
to back matches right now. A couple of times where
I think just our our players, the excitement, the way
that they play the game. You know, winning always breeds
interest in the community coming out. But our women are
just people of caliber that will go out and interact
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with the players, with the young young girls, with whatever
people interested in volleyball. And I think BYU does a
great job just getting get people excited about what By's
doing heading into the Big twelve and the opportunities we
have to be We're already in the nation, you know,
on bau TV was great, but now we're on ESPN
Plus and we're getting out there with football and I
think it's good. So I think volleyball is an exciting sport.
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I don't know if you saw one of the most
recent volleyball games on Sunday, had like one point six
million people watching it, you know, between Nebraska and Minnesota,
and that's legit.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah, the Nebraska the football stadium with even that was unreal.
Speaker 8 (34:00):
And I watched that tooty two thousand plus.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
So cool, and it's cool for them, but it's also
cool for the sport absolutely, because one that was one
of the head stories just period of all sports a day.
It's like, look at uh, you know in Lincoln, Nebraska.
They're showing up for the volleyball team, which they do anyway.
They've a you know, they're very passionate about the team,
and they did the walk. It was just anytime you
can get anything in front of a bunch of eyeballs, yep,
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like that's a win. And so and I had a
buddy who played the show afterward, like the music part
of it. Any when you do big events here, like
what what's the goal here? You get to do something special?
Do you play only here where you get out and
you know on top of the mountain.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
Oh, that'd be good.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
Yeah, Well we I hope in the snow ennis choose.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
And tennis racket choose though that they walk up in.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I think that's a good question. I think my players
asked after they saw the football, and I think basketball
did an exhibition too after that, iowa, maybe if we're
going to play in the Marriott Center where men's basketball.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
We were like, no, we like guys.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
We just love the coziness of the Smithfield House, and
we love the fans filling it up. And I think
the bigger you get if you could guarantee me that
we could fill it up. Sure, And it's not that
I'm afraid of that, it's just the Smithfield House brings
such a special, unique feeling to the community and to
our team. I told them no, but I think they
got mad because I think they think I didn't have
belief that we could fill it up, and I think
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we could.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Isn't the Smithfield That's pretty big though.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
It's five thousand plus.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
Isn't that that's pretty big?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
I isn't that for a volleyball deva?
Speaker 8 (35:28):
What if we could get ten?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
No?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
No, no, I hear you, Yeah no, I was just
looking at pictures of it. It looks bigger than other
schools that I've seen. They're volume.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
It just depends on where you're looking. The Midwest has
got great crowds going right now. So just volleyball is
growing as a sport. It's it's popular, and we're getting
some professional leagues, a couple popping up, which is important
in case. Yeah, we're getting we have athletes in limited
and we have some other professional organizations. I think they'll
be two and twenty four, which is huge for our
players to know they can finish their careers and they
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can stay in states. I don't have to go overseas
to go play.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I had friends that as soon as they finished playing,
they had to go to every European country. Yeah, European countries.
I don't even know what existed? Was that volleyball bluelighty not?
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, so you do know volleyball? Yeah, little bit?
Speaker 8 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm not I thought you were switching sports on me.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
But I yea, yeah, I'm kind of an idiot, but
I I like that we have we have a.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Couple of players playing. Heather Nighting's playing in Turkey, Alexa
Gray's playing in Turkey. Ronnie Jones Perry is playing in Brazil,
so we have some BAU players playing for him.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
When you finished, did you play overseas?
Speaker 8 (36:31):
I played in Croatia? I loved it?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
What was that like?
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Amazing? No? It was it was amazing. I lived in Rieka,
which is on the coast. It's and I'm a beach
girl from Santa Barbara, so I'm drawn to the beach
and just outdoor.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:46):
And that's why I love Utah. So Croatia was amazing.
I've been back many times.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
I love it. I thought she was gonna say that
why I love you, and then she said, are you Croatian? Really? No,
I just thought she could join the interviews, like, that's
why I love you?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
I ta, did you start playing beach volleyball?
Speaker 8 (37:00):
I grew up on yeah, playing sand. My dad took
us to the beaches and we played on East Beach
where all great legends that grew up. And that's my
first love is sand. And had to play indoor, and
but I love indoor.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
What was the transition from sand to court.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Well, it wasn't really a transition. You grew up playing both,
so it never felt like a transition. But I like
sand because I like to be in control of the
game and it's two people and you get to touch
the ball way more so I love just owning it
and being able to just really develop all your skills passing, setting, hitting.
And then you get on a court of six and
the ball like hard that comes to you. You're like
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and then you're a libero and nobody serves you. So
it's the point of the libarro. They avoid the libarro.
So next time you watch a game, so how many
times the libero actually passes the ball, It's like, what
are we doing? They're not even serving them.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
What would you credit as the key to your winning culture?
You're a specific Yeah, are players one hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, but you're giving. But the players aren't playing. They
are no, no, no, you let you out me finish.
The players aren't playing until one you decide they can play.
And that's based on a couple of things. Their abilities,
how hard they work, their attitudes, and that's instilled to
them by you. Yeah, so what is it fundamentally what's
important to you? And you would credit just the winning too.
Speaker 8 (38:16):
Yeah, I think you know, you got to have the horses.
And so we like to identify players that can come
play at a high level, that are high performing. So
we want them to be high performing individuals mentally, physically, emotionally.
What do you want to accomplish because this is not
easy to play Division one volleyball anywhere in the country,
let alone at BYU where the expectations are high, the
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standards are high. We have standards that we believe you
should show up every day with them. We're going to
hold you to them. So I think holding people to
those standards, showing them the blueprint, this is what we
can accomplish. And I mean my brother hired me in
two thousand and eleven. He was the head coach. He's
now the men's head coach. Yeah, your brother was yeah, yeah,
he hired me here in twenty eleven and then he
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became the men's head coach and twoy and fifteen and
I became the women's head coach. But I believed in
the vision of the players and athletes that we were
getting and being able to win a national championship. And
in three years twenty fourteen, we got to the finals
and we played in the national championships and lost. And
then four years later in eighteen, we went to another
final four. So we're due for another final four. So
that's what we're working towards. But I think you know,
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the players, my staff, the administration, everyone working towards, you know,
just being the best you can be, whether that national
championship comes or not. We're excited about the journey of
becoming and what our young women could become through hardships, adversities,
highs and lows, winning, losing. It's about what are they
going to become after this and are they going to
be CEOs, business owners, mothers? You know, what are you
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going to do with your life? And how can we
help you be really good at that? And oh, by
the way, let's get really good at volleyball while you're here.
And they've been able to do that.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
How tall are you?
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Five nine?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
How tall is your brother? He's six to one, so
years aren't huge.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
No, he was a libero here. He won two national
championships with BYU.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
But why are you the better coach?
Speaker 8 (40:02):
Oh? No, he's really good.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I've been looking at some stuff we know you coach. Yeah,
we've been looking at young one hundred wins quicker than anybody. Yeah,
pull one over on us.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Yeah it was.
Speaker 8 (40:11):
It was two hundred. So you keep miss missaying No.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
I stopped reading notes, Okay, I quit.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
I'm just kidding you. He you went to the finals
and fourteen and I haven't got there yet, so you know,
and he's got a couple of national championships, so he's
he's for sure the better coach, better athlete.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah, debatable. So you ever been hitting the face hard? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Many times, so hard the nose where your eyes are
all watery? And do you check yourself out or is
that embarrassing? Like because listen, if I got hit and
I was playing ball, even even baseball, I got hit,
I was like nothing, I'm gonna walk first, but it's
out of be like.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Oh, please get me out of here.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
Do you act like nothing happened?
Speaker 5 (40:47):
I would be like that didn't hurt?
Speaker 8 (40:49):
Yeah, I mean it's it hurts if you take it
off the nose directly, it's your eyes You're not gonna
be able to see because it just just your whole
face feels swollen and hurts. If it's off the side,
you can manage it much better like them. Good does
it black your eyes the nose, Yeah, you get a
little bit just you can't see because your eyes are
watering because it hurts. But if it gets you somewhere else,
you can usually move on from that. But uh, you know,
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we're a lot more aware of the what it does
to you to get hit in the face. Point blank.
It's it's it hurts, and our players can hit pretty hard,
so you know, we try to we try to make
sure everyone's okay.
Speaker 5 (41:23):
I wouldn't like that, and we.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
Actually don't like that. Yeah, we we we want our
players to we treat we train them to apologize to
our opponents. I think it's you know, it's something that
when you're younger, maybe you think is cool if you
six pack someone, But as you get older and you
watch the professional leagues, they'll they'll put their hand up
and say sorry, right a ray away from the crossing it.
And I think that's something that we could bring to
our level. You know, in college, the respect and knowing
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that no one's trying to intentionally hurt anybody, but you
know that that that doesn't feel good.
Speaker 5 (41:49):
But let's say your mouth in a little bit, I'd
be like, sorry, stuffing.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
It's hard to aim, like there's a lot of things happening,
the balls moving from someone's passing platform to a set
to the air when you're jumping. So to think that
you can aim at someone, maybe you're really good.
Speaker 5 (42:05):
But I was you're that good.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
It's just usually doesn't happen that way.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, I'm gonna lead athlete whenever, and I don't know
the name of it and do it like one person
jumps and they fake it.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yeah, the third person is that like a play.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
Or that's a great question. I like your questions because
they're there. I don't ever think of them because they're
so basic.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
Oh boy, oh boy, that's not all they're like super good.
What's the word elementary?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yea, so good. That's volleyball for dumbies. And I'm asking
the questions. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
No, I actually like that because our setter does call plays.
You'll see them hold their jersey and they call a
play with their hands, and so if the gym's loud,
it's like football, we have hand signals, and you don't
want the other team to know what you're running. And
so we have set plays and the players know what set,
what they're gonna play, run, and so everyone has to
jump as if they're getting set. And then that way
you hold the blockers on the opponent team. Does that
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make sense because they if you didn't approach and act
like you were, then they would the blockers would move
to where the person was actually getting set. So everybody
has to jump and fake it. But now it's like,
I'm like getting better ideas with like what you guys
are giving me some coaching ideas, Yeah, how to.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Throw off defenses well, and so if they got to
fake it, but it's only meant for that one, but they.
Speaker 8 (43:21):
Don't know that they're not getting set. Everyone thinks they're
getting the ball. Everyone expects to get the ball. She
doesn't show on your seat, she doesn't show. She shows
everyone what they're going to hit, but she doesn't tell
them who she's gonna set. So everyone thinks they're getting
the ball. So everyone's on high alert. And then once
she reads the other team and what's going on and
gets a feel for our pass. For instance, if we
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pass it way off the net, it's only going to
go to one person because you can't set someone in
the middle of the court. It needs to be a
really good pass. Does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (43:50):
It does make sense.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It makes me think though, that if I were an
NFL wide receiver and this happens a little bit now
and they're.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Like, give me the ball.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
I need the ball. Does that ever happen? Where?
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, all the time?
Speaker 5 (43:57):
Like why am I not getting the ball all the time?
And then how do you manage that? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:01):
You talk about game plans and what we're trying to do.
Are we wanting to overload, are we wanting to exploit
a certain blocker. We want to look at our matchups like, hey,
we want to feed this person because of this matchup.
I mean, there are matchups with the other teams, and
so you talk to your team about what we're trying
to do. And then it comes down usually to your
ball control. Where how good are you handling the ball,
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passing defense. If your ball control is really good, you're
going to have a lot of options.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
All right, Final four questions four four? Okay, that's a
random number.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
We paid just four, and we just commit to it.
If you deflate a volleyball a little bit, or you
inflate volleyball a little bit.
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Does that help? Are their rules to stop an advantage? Yeah,
you're good hitting it.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Though, right, yes, good question. The refs, I don't know what.
The refs check the pressure before every match, so so yeah,
the PSI, the refs have a little pump and they
check it. So you have to play it illegal. It's
on the ball what illegal is. But we do go
to schools. We'll practice a day before and all their
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balls are flat. It's wild. We're like, are you really
practicing with flat balls? So we bring around pump me,
pump them up. So the next day their balls are
over pumped.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Got them.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
What's the advantage if you both get to use the
same ball or do you change balls based on whose
serve it is?
Speaker 8 (45:24):
I think there's some advantage.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
You looked at question basic of all the questions, because
again with different sports, there is so you know.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
There's a lot about altitude sea level. We don't talk
about that. We just serve the ball, figure out how
to get it to float in the court. But we're
not going to spend too much time with you're at
sea level, you're at altitude, the balls flatter, it's deflated, like,
just figure it out get a feel for it. But
we like when we train for the balls to be
at the PSI that they're supposed to because that's what
you're going to play at in a game. So there's
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really no reason that you're going to play I don't
know why teams like to play with flat balls. Like,
that's a good question.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
It hurts your ar, it hurts your artic I mean,
like the idiot, I got a good question.
Speaker 8 (46:07):
Yeah, that's a good question. It's a very good question, coach.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
So let's talk about travel. So when I travel with
my wife, I have to tell her all the time
we're going for one day. We don't need five pairs
of shoes, Like, we don't need what's the travel like
with the girls, Like is it you have to be
like guys, guys, No, you don't need extra bags, like
we don't have enough room.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
In the bus.
Speaker 8 (46:26):
No, they are so good with travel. They literally bring
the exact amount of practice sweats, matches, like you see,
no extra packing they because they have to carry their bags.
Speaker 7 (46:37):
Oh that's exat I should make my wife do that.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
It's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Dudes on the football team do the same thing. Like,
you don't have to being nineteen pair of organs. Yeah,
you know, I think it's just college kids more than anything.
Speaker 8 (46:46):
Okay, yeah, no, you you don't see that. With our team,
they pack their school books in their bags and so
they get a little heavy too, and so they're pretty
good at packing. We haven't had any problems with that.
I mean sometimes they maybe forget something that's on the
opposite end.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
You have everything, no exactly, so go home.
Speaker 8 (47:06):
It's the problem.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
Well, that's your fault.
Speaker 8 (47:08):
Yeah, we usually have to go buy it. And the
jerseys is the biggest thing. We have some extra jerseys.
You have blood jersey in case someone gets blood, so
you have those. But we try to double check our packing.
But no, we do not have an over packing issue
with our team. I think it's just the basic what
do you need to practice match sweats, get comfy and
travel to and from and they look good. They got
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some swag, they look good.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
Final two questions. I say that every time, just so
you know where we are.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Well. Also, we're a big fan of your head of
communications here, and he keeps looking at his.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
Phone, so I feel like he's like, you got to go. Yeah,
that's what we feel like.
Speaker 8 (47:42):
No, he's off the whole day for you know, he
manages the whole shit. Yeah, I thought you were coming
to practice.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
We are, we are, we're going where Unless you're planning
on hitting at us and we're not.
Speaker 8 (47:51):
We could get you out there.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
You're not going to six pack us? Are you? Coach?
Is that what it's called?
Speaker 7 (47:56):
That's what she said?
Speaker 2 (47:56):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (47:57):
Why would be a six pack? If it's one in
the face?
Speaker 8 (47:59):
Actually, good question, like if you'd hit another basic question.
See it's so educational.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
That's a real quick.
Speaker 8 (48:07):
It's a good question.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
You're not an answer.
Speaker 8 (48:09):
I'm gonna have to google it.
Speaker 5 (48:10):
Oh you don't know, so you just say it without
That's why I said it's a good question. All right,
I'm googling right here on this. That's do you know
what it is?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Because there's six panels like on the.
Speaker 8 (48:23):
You're making you're making me look silly.
Speaker 5 (48:24):
Now, so I don't know, let's say six making.
Speaker 8 (48:29):
Maybe I made it. Maybe maybe I made it up.
Maybe it's maybe it's because people took it off their
six pack on their stomach and.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
It's like I thought, I was like, don't hit me
my six pack? Okay, six pack in volleyball? What's the
defensive player goes up for an attack block and gets
a six pack smashed into her face and she can't
make a clean block.
Speaker 5 (48:48):
Okay, we already knew that, But what's the root of it?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
I need like the Latin order six.
Speaker 5 (48:55):
Okay, examples on how I'm and I've lost interest of
what I meant. But okay, so here we are. What's
the goal macro micro micro this season, macro next five years? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (49:08):
I think always to become the best we can be.
How good can this group be? We have seven matches left.
How good can we be that we know of? And
then we get to play in the postseason. Let's see
how good this group can be. With the seniors that
are never going to play again, we try to pump
them up, motivate them that way. We have some fifth years,
we have some COVID kids that are having opportunities to
play longer. I'm motivating them by let's see how good
(49:29):
we can become. Let's see if we can win, you know, championships.
What does that look like, conference national? What does that
look like in the journey to become that? I think
long term, you know, we want to get Bay's first
women's national championship. We're still searching for a women head
coach to win it. I think it's going to happen
in the next five years for sure. If it's no
women coaches won a national championship, and if it's there's
(49:51):
so many great women coaches out there, like of course,
we want to. We want to be one of the
schools in contention. I could name five right now that
are in contention, you know, with women coaches, and it's
going to happen in the next five years. So that's important.
I think it's important to see women coaching and for
our women to see women in the sport that they
can get into coaching if they want that, they can
you know, be great role models for other players if
(50:13):
you love the sport and you want to continue in it.
So just continuing to bring in the best young women
here to go off into the world and contribute to
society and be great examples of of b y U
and what what it can do for for people.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Who's the best volleyball player ever, women's women's That's a
good question, Michael Jordan of Volleyball.
Speaker 5 (50:32):
Women's volleyball.
Speaker 8 (50:33):
That is a good question because I'm very fond of carts. No,
I didn't accomplish very much. Oh gosh, that's a good question.
You know, there's some there's some great Olympians. I'd say
Logan Tom is one of the absolute greatest women players.
And now Jordan Larson, she's still playing with our national team.
She won helped Karts Cry and his staff win a
(50:55):
gold medal in UH just recently, and she's going to
play in Paris in twenty four So Jordan Larson look
her up and Logan Tom really good.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
And I'm gonna look up six pack later. Yeah, and
you're gonna let me know and know the name of that.
Speaker 7 (51:07):
We're gonna figure out.
Speaker 5 (51:08):
And if you guys, where do they play the national Championship?
Speaker 8 (51:11):
Is it a tournament in Florida?
Speaker 5 (51:12):
Okay? If you guys do with the national in December,
we will be there there.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
We'll be there, promise.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
I love it. Yeah, because if.
Speaker 8 (51:18):
Is it just for clicks, like for your own benefit?
Speaker 5 (51:20):
No, And let me say this, no, it is not.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
We have First of all, we've not We've done this
show for like eleven different UH Division one school nice,
We've only done football.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
Okay, we have like five or six million views.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
It's slowly becoming something that we didn't really expect it
to be cool because I just wanted to go and
talk to people that have and uh maintained great cultures,
winning folkus. And this is the first women's program that
we've done. This first all or a program we've done,
we've done We've only done football.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
Wow. So it's not for clicks. But why are you.
Speaker 8 (51:53):
Branching into volleyball women's volleyball.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
Because of who you are on a loach? Because we
look for people that and this is not a joke.
I've been joking. I'm the guy. But we look for
people that.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Do it the right way but also do it the
right way, like they win while doing it the right way.
And there's only a few. There's only a few that
we feel very passionate about talking with. We feel like
if we didn't have microphones, we could learn a lot
from and so and that is pretty universal. And you're
respect it like that, you know, amongst a lot of
the other coaches that I thought you weren't a text
(52:26):
thread with which you weren't, And so that question might
be though, yeah, I know, I think it's like fight club.
Speaker 5 (52:31):
If you're on texted, you don't talk about Snapchat?
Speaker 8 (52:34):
Can you imagine that way?
Speaker 5 (52:35):
Can you imagine like Sabans on Snapchat? How do I
it's just like his elbow?
Speaker 7 (52:40):
How do I get this to go funny?
Speaker 5 (52:42):
Thank you very much, congratulations, thank you everything. We the
blue is sick.
Speaker 7 (52:48):
He's been talking about the blues.
Speaker 5 (52:49):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 8 (52:50):
Just the color blue.
Speaker 7 (52:51):
Well, the deal is he's color blind. Yeah, so color
you can see, but no red and red.
Speaker 5 (52:57):
But the blue is a great blue. Like if I went,
we're talking to a coach, I won't say who, and
he was like, I hate the color. He has to
coach and that will be terrible. That would be hard
to wear it all the time.
Speaker 8 (53:08):
It would be hard.
Speaker 5 (53:08):
They hate the color.
Speaker 2 (53:10):
I'm a massive Arkansas razor bag fan. I'm a donor,
I'm you know, I'm a doctor.
Speaker 7 (53:15):
He's a doctor of letters.
Speaker 5 (53:17):
He waits out, but I say my breath.
Speaker 6 (53:21):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (53:21):
But they pretty good, you know they are? They are.
Speaker 8 (53:23):
They're very good. And the head coach is a former
b YU guy, Jason Watson, so you might need to
visit them. And his culture is amazing.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
I will say, you're my team volleyball like it. And
if you go and play Arkansas be like they were.
Speaker 8 (53:36):
You there, we were like neck and neck top ten
and I think they're still up there. They just beat
Florida and three to oh, so they're they're cruising. I
saw the want to check them in the instead of
Black Tournament. They're gonna get make some ways.
Speaker 5 (53:48):
I don't give a crap about them. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
If you're there, we're there, all right, all right, coach
that we really we respect what you've done so much.
Thanks awesome, and we're gonna go and bit get six
packed a bunch in a minute.
Speaker 5 (53:58):
Yeah that's gonna be pretty cool.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
Yeah, thanks for We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (54:00):
Thanks coach.
Speaker 7 (54:01):
Thank you, Heather, No, not Heather, Oh what do you mean, coach, coach? Coach,
thank you coach Heather No, god, dang it.
Speaker 5 (54:07):
All right, all right, that's it.
Speaker 3 (54:12):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (54:13):
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Speaker 3 (54:27):
Eddie. You get your glove on.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
I got my glove, got you and the whistle baby
all right, thank you guys. We're done out, See you
guys next time.
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