After 2 great games on Sunday, the stars were out with huge performances from Jokic, Booker and Harden. Fred Segal - the owner and creator of the popular social media account 'Freezing Cold Takes' joins Bobby to talk about where the idea started, his favorite cold take of all-time and much more! Plus, Bronny James committed to USC over the weekend, and Tigers caddy is leaving him... does this mean his playing days are coming to an end?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's a podcast, came twenty five wist whist So, yeah,
it's too.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bad, But what didn't you expect it's.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
A podcast, come twenty five whistline. Oil man. I'm gonna
tell you right now. I watched all of it, the
Suns and Denver. I'm gonna tell you it is one
of the best offensive games I ever seen him a
whole life. Do you watch it?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's crazy. I mean, Yokic, he should have won the
MVP just from that game last night. They should retroactively
take it away from Embead and they lost. But he
could not be stopped. I'm talking about little flicks. I'm
talking about post moves. He was so good and him
and Mary were doing too man ball that they couldn't stop.
It wasn't even straight picking rolls. They were just running
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two man and he hit. And we will talk about
that in a second. But I was just so inspired
to start training for the league again.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I thought, you're gonna start with the Celtics, So I'm
glad you started there instead.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, I started there, not because I don't want you
to have to suffer through this Celtics part of it,
but I just had watched that game and was like,
got it between Booker shooting the eyeballs out Durant just playing.
I mean he was extra passing it to Booker whenever
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he had an open shot. It was so freaking cool
to see. Yeah, that game was so it was just
a really great game. We'll talk about it a little bit,
think of very much. There was a parent in Florida.
They had to arrest a parent because he punched a
voluntary mPire on the back of the head. What what
parents do with umpires? How they treat him, how they
yell at them? Wild the umpire's doing Okay, the attacker said,
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he was just defending his kid. By the way, how
about not a pet punching him in the back of
the head. You want to punch somebody, big shot, punch
him in the face. At least give him a shot
a duck. Don't punch them. But if you do, and
you got to punch somebody, don't punch them in the
back of the head, you big woos. Investigators determined that
an upset parent punch a sixty three year old umpire
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in the back of the head. It happened as the
Empire exited the field gates between innings. There's a video
shows him walking up boom knocking them out. The sheriff's
is the umpire is a disabled veteran and officiates baseball
because he loves it. He loves the kids in the community.
Players and parents can be seen rushing to the Empire's aid.
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The Empire had addressed the kid for disruptive behavior. Oh,
I can't believe a kid would be have disrupt behavior
when his dad acts like that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Put far from the trill.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Wow, w e s eight terrible parent. No more games
to the parent. He can't go to any games, even
high school games, college the kids in the NFL don't. Nope,
you get to go into nowhere where your kid's playing.
Ever again, that's like a piece of crap. That is
a piece of crap, dude, right there. Let's say you
do want to fight an umpire, which you shouldn't because
he's volunteering at least be like yo, ump let's square
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up in chunk yep. But also he's sixty six. He
probably shouldn't even do that. But to punch him in
the back of the head. What a freaking loser. Speaking
of losers, Celtics. Now, well, let's go over to the
Tittle Tattle.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Go ahead to name.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The tittle Tattle.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Let's get up.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
With these late night games for the Western Conference finals
making it tough to stay up, and I was wondering,
what time zone do you think has it best for
sports fans?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Once I went to Hawaii and the games are like
noon because they're way back. Yeah you think LA's back.
I think it's another two or three hours or something.
And Hawaii was that was crazy because you're watching games.
It just felt odd. It was like, have some breakfast
and watch the primetime game on the NFL, probably West
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Coast because they get to watch them all and they
get to finish, even the late games and not have
to be exhausted at work the next day. Imagine your
East Coast and you do get a game starts on
nine o'clock, so that means midnight. If you're lucky, then
you got to get up at six or seven and
go to work the next day. Terrible West Coast. I
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would want to live West Coast times. Izon't know if
I got to choose, because it's just too far back.
I don't like it. Too many things have happened, you know.
Lucky for me, I have a bunch of people that
I work with that live West Coast, and I can
call them even when it works over for all of us.
My wife's like, you don't need to bother people after five.
It's only three there. So that's But probably the Western
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Pacific PST whatever, all that crap is.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Mountaintome is pretty good. Yeah, right in between better than Central. Yes,
East is the worst. Just go right and work back
and it gets less sucky as you go. Yes, because
I remember being out there during.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
The NFL season. I would wake up and there will
be games on at ten o'clock. NFL games at ten
in the morning. So it's like you because what happens
on Fantasy football days or any NFL week You wake up,
you can't wait, you can't wait. It is forever noon.
You wake up at nine to fifteen. You've watched the
clock until noon. Yeah, probably the old PST number one.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Next, the players for this year is the Match Golf
charity game were announced last week. If you got to
choose with any three athletes, former or current, who would.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They be Who's playing the match?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's gonna be Klay Thompson and Steph Curry versus Patrick
Mahomes and Travis Kelsey, Chiefs and Warriors.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Curry is a really good golfer. Is Mahomes or Kelsey?
And are they playing with handicaps? Probably not handicaps.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Mahomes is pretty good because he's played in it before.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't know about Kelsey, but he goes a lot.
I see him on Twitter and when not playing charities
all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Curry is really good. Yeah, Curry had a really bad
game in the playoffs and he's just wanted to play
golf next day, and Carr was like, cool, just go
play golf. He played golf and then came to the
Ring and they won the next game.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's that's a trick.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I'm gonna go. I go Mark Grace first, Qastion
for the Cobs back in the day, still there, I
mean still live, not there as an earth. He's still alive. Okay,
So I go Mark Grace. Two more athletes that I
get to choose to play golf with. I don't really
have like a love for any specific athlete except from
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when I was with was a kid, So I think
it would be cool to play golf with. Can I
pick like an old coach like Barry Switzer.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Because he played at Arkansas and then went to coach
obviously Oklahoma and the Cowboys. So I think that would
be fun because you get to hear like all the
old stories. And I sat beside I'm on a Southwest
flight once. I was awesome for like the fifty minutes
I sat with them.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You talked to them.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh, yeah, awesome, it was amazing. Have you ever told
that story?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I got on a flight on the last one there
I was. My connection was slow. I run over jump
on the flight from Dallas to Little Rock and there's
only one seat in the back and it's between these
two old men, and I'm like, oh, they're gonna hate me.
Middle seat set in boom, Barry Switzer talk to me
the whole time.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Wow, it's really cool. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So I'm gonna go Mark Grace Barry Switzer. Tom Brady
would be cool.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
He's just a living legend. Especially have to like talk
to me about stuff. Is the role they have to
answer any question? I ask?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Of course? Yeah, yeah. Number one rule, who would you
put in yours? I would go Tom Brady for sure,
and then probably.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Manning over tom Brady I'm palling Brady out, putting Manning in.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Ok yeah, Okay, well our team is gonna beat your
team in Yeah, so I'll go Tom Brady. And I
don't even think he plays golf with David Ortiz. If
he does play golfing, I don't know if my guys
like golf.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I just picked him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay, yeah, and then I'm gonna throw a gronk in
there just because it'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, you're full Boston dude. Well yeah, hey, get some
new hobbies, all right? Next time.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
With the NFL schedule set to be announced this week,
which matchup do you want to see the most against
the tees on opening night?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I mean, always a Super Bowl? Right, isn't it mostly
Super Bowl? Don't they do that most times? Do they
played the Super Bowl again?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Matchup? Well, they don't always play each other that following year,
but this year they do play the Eagles at home.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But I thought they always came back that one of
the beginning games with the Super Bowl from last year.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, it just depends if they're on their schedule or not.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The bull crap. Probably, I would like see the Bills
again because I like the Chief Bills rivalry just straight up.
I think that's always gonna be fun. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,
I think that's super cool. I'm nervous watching Dolphins games. Yeah,
Tu said he wanted to retire. Thought about it for
a while. I don't know if I'm even a defensive
player and I'm gonna run up. I think too, I
should just get flags and they pull the flags and
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he's down. I think everybody would agree that's okay. Yes,
Tua gets to play flag and everybody else gets to
hit hard. But again, the Eagles will be awesome because
that's that's super Bowl, right m hm, yeah, yeah, so
I would go I would love for it to be Eagles,
but I thought it was always super Bowl. So okay,
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I'm gonna go Bills. If it's not the super Bowl,
it's on with the Bills, Okay, just because I like
that rivalry, all right? What else?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Nick Foles? Remember Nick Foles? He was released by the
Colts over the weekend, and I was wondering, which quarterback
do you forget about the most that won a Super
Bowl in the past.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, it's not Trent Delfer, because everybody always talks about
Trent Delpher and that can you believe you won a
super Bowl like that is so much and that's so said,
and the fact that he's an analyst and it's said
a lot. Now he's a coach down at you ab
probably Brad Johnson for the Bucks because when the Bucks
won that Super Bowl, was grood In the coach of
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the Bucks?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Then?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, that defense those nasty yeah killed the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But that's why, and that's what comes to mind. You
don't think about Mark Rippin our excuse? Yeah, Mark Repints
want two for the Redskins. Back in the day. My
buddy had a pullover, a starter pullover. You know anything
about that, Kevin, the full starter pullover that goes all
the way down pull over, not like a jacket and
Bert pollover. K cackling't a Ford one, but he had one.
To remember Mark Reppen winning that Super Bowl. Joe Gibbs
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was the head coach then. Okay, so that's all I
have to remember the players and when they played, because
I don't do well with the years. Brad Johnson didn't
Mark Rippin, That's what I hated when the Redskins were good.
There's just no need I hated the Redskins. I didn't
even love the Cowboys. That's not The Redskins was such
a losers because I didn't like their colors, even though
they were dark red, red and yellow. It's not a
mix of colors the anger in your face, but their
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helmets were gross. I just hated the Redskins for some reason.
Did you like the running back what was his name,
big white guy Hortous? Oh no, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
John? Something that they had when they won the Super Bowl?
Number forty four.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You can have to remind me about who that is
because I don't remember a white running but I remember
Mike all saw it is awesome down with Bucks Riggins.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeahs No, I hated it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I hated it all right? What else?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Last one with Bronnie James committing to USC over the weekend?
Which star are you most excited to watch next year
at USC? Bronni or Caleb Williams. It's easily Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Like that's it. I don't even care about watching Bronnie
except see, well, how many minutes is he getting? Because
I think his last name wasn't James one. They tried
to make him a five star and I think one
of the services has listened as a five years a
five star, he's a consensus four star. I watch him
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play Sierra Canyon, right, I watch him play as in
like I watch clips or extended clips, which sometimes they'll
show two or three minutes at a time, and not
just him dunking it. He's just a guy on that team.
But to get on that team, you got to be
really good. Don't get me wrong. It's like you're just
a guy on the Dream Team. Well, those guys are
Larry Bird and so he has to be really great.
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But they want to get drafted after one year. And
the thing is somebody's gonna draft him because lebron said
wherever he goes, he's gonna go. Is this the easiest
passing pass into the NBA ever? Yeah, because I haven't
seen anything with Bronnie where I go. That is an
NBA guy right there, Like he would go to the
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NBA this year because most of those kids that go
first round in the draft after one year in college
would have also gone and been drafted their final year
in high school. Because going into the year, they're like,
this is our draft projection, and mostly all those kids
are already listed somewhere. I just don't think Bronne would
get drafted this year.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Nope, not at all. I've heard that a lot of
people saying he's not even I mean, he's good, obviously
you going to USC.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But when you're compared to lebron and some say you're
a five star. When they say he's not that good,
they mean he's not as good as other people who
are given the same type of credit. Yes, so, kayleb
Williams should be awesome, should be the first overall pick
in the NFL draft. What I will be anxious to
see with Brownie is how many minutes he gets and
how much of a contributor he is more than I
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just can't wait to watch him because he's so dynamic
and amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I guess defense is a strong point.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, me too when I play ball. Yeah, yeah, you
know what, because he's very good offensively exactly. All right,
that's it his name, the Tannel townel all Right's floors yours?
What do you want to say about the Celtics and Sixers?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It was I had a feeling going in that game.
I didn't really expect that they were gonna win. I
kind of knew the Sixers would show up a lot
more than they did in game two. In Game three,
and that comeback was awesome. For a long time, I
was like, Okay, it's not gonna happen. We're down by
a double digits. Most of the game. Comeback was great.
It was their defense and their energy more than anything.
But once again, it's late in games not calling timeouts,
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and I'm still up in the air about that. Not
being able to execute when they have a shot to
win the game on both overtime and regulation.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
They're not calling a timeout. It's a good discussion point
because if you do call a timeout, you go back up.
You got a shorter distance to go because you're going
to reset half court, right, But also the defense has
a chance to get set. So it's hard for me
to argue that because if it would have worked, and
that's the case always, but I definitely understood the strategy
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in it. It just didn't work out this time, right,
But yeah, since it didn't work out, I'll be upset
to Ah I call time out.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And the last time he did call time out when
they ran a set play, it was to Marcus Smart
and drive down the lane. I don't want market, I
love Smart, but to have him handle the ball last
It's like, come on, we got Tatum and Jaen and
Jaylen Brown didn't do much and not his fault, but
the last few minutes and he is he's been their
best player all postseason. He needs that ball.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
There's like forty seconds in the seconds left on the
clock in overtime and Tatum hit that three. Did you
feel like it was over?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes? I yeah, deep down, I was like, Okay, we
got this, but credit the Harden man. I can't stand
watching the guy play. But credit though in the game,
like he made any shot that needed to be made
he made. He hit the floater less than twenty seconds left.
Knowsn't overtime the three hit Yeah, And when Jalen came
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over and helped on MB down low before he kicked
it out the hard and I was like, oh no, no, no,
I could give him two. We're only up by two.
But to leave Harden, who already had forty or thirty
nine points, I think of the time wide open like that.
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That line Harden forty seven minutes, forty two points, eight rebounds,
nine assists. The nine assists, that's a heavy nine assist
from Marden. That's really Harden's playing really well.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, it's it's like it's one extreme or the other.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Though. He went six of nine from three, especially the
dagger there at the end. Inbeid thirty four points, thirteen rebounds,
four assists, Tatum twenty four points, eighteen rebounds. The eighteen
rebounds from Tatum insane.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, because they were talking about he didn't think he
had two points in the first half, but he was
grabbing boards all over. He was doing different things, and yeah, man,
that's tough.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The Heat and the Knicks. I almost just want to
know who wins. I don't care that much about it anymore.
I don't The games aren't fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Right, especially when we watch the other games. You're like, oh, yeah,
so just tell me who wins.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's like I want to hit sim Yeah, like an
NBA two K you can just simulate the game. Just
sim the game and then let us know who wins.
But the Heat beat the Knicks one O five eighty
six or up two to one. And I don't think
Butler was fully healthy. He hasn't got the ankle injury,
but I guess didn't really have to be. However, he
scored twenty eight points played thirty six minutes. I don't care.
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I don't care. I do think that if Boston wins,
they easily win the next series. I do think if
Philadelphia wins, they could have some trouble with the heat. Yeah,
but the Boston Miami rematch is a bit intriguing to
me because Jimmy Butler that last second shot end of
the game last year almost went in from in front
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of the rim like that. That's fun.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They scare me. The Knicks don't scare me.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, me either.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
The heat, just because you just don't know what you're
getting nine in a night out and they'll always play
you hard. They scare me.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Lakers whooped up on the Warriors. But it's gone one Lakers,
boom punching the gut the Warriors. Okay, we're gonna play
a little different here. No three Lakers, so two to one.
Dangel Russell had a bunch threes. Yeah, I'll look, I
didn't watch I watch a little bit of the game,
probably third quarter, but I'll just look at the stat
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line and see what's up. And I saw Dangel Russell.
Really he already hit a bunch of threes. Man, if
he's putting in points and Anthony Davis's playing. No, no,
let me say it's different. If Anthony Davis is healthy,
the Lakers are my favorite. I said it before. Every
time he falls down, I'm like, well, that's it, because
he falls down a decent amount for a big do too.
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He doesn't fall down like MB does. MB goes down
every play.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, MB's standing clapping for a shot from the bench
and it goes in and he falls down. He's not
part of the play falls down. So yeah, as long
as Anthony Davis stays healthy. Man, I just feel like
the Laker Lebron didn't shoot in the first quarter. I
don't think yeah, so he didn't have to. And I
think Lebron is very much okay with his role as
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being number one and a half instead of one. I'm
not gonna say he's a number two because sometimes I
needed to be that number one guy still, but I
think he's okay being the one and a half because
he does just go all right, ady, you go, Anthon
Davis'll rebound it, take it all the way down court himself,
then post up, then go up. Yeah. I mean he's
so versatile, he just gets hurt. I just keep waiting
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for that injury.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Anything you want to say about that game, No, I'm
like you, I didn't watch too much of it, especially
when I saw the blout. I think they went on
a big run in the third quarter. But if the
Anthony Davis's defense too. You could tell every time the
Warriors try to go in the paint or something, it's
kind of like embiid where he's blocking shots or he's
altering shots.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And lots of tip shots, lots of tip balls. Let's
get over the game that I just I could not
get enough of. I mean, Yokic is so good. They
didn't win, but he does it all. He had fifty
three points, eleven assists. He was twenty for thirty from
the field. Murray had twenty eight point seven assists, and
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that again, their two man game is so good. You
can tell they played together so much. You'll be like,
Murray goes around, Yokis, shows where he's going, leads him.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Into the lane.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
He's leading them in between two of them defenders right
toward Its gotta be layup, layup, man, freaking booker. He
shot that three pointer in the fourth quarter over those
two dudes at once. Is a heat check. But he
was still hot. I mean both the guys were up
Booker at thirty six and twelve and Durant had thirty six,
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eleven rebounds, six assists. I feel like when I watch,
Durant can take over the game himself at any time.
But I feel like, again, he's letting everybody know Booker's
the guy. He is the new He's a new Booker's team. Like,
I feel like I see that with Katie, even the
extra passes, he could easily taken some of those threes. Yeah,
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but man, Booker just drilling them last night.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
God dang, it was a fun one.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
What a series two two. Durant played forty four minutes.
I mean, that's where it just gets tough. Booker played
forty minutes. They don't really have that. They don't have
much of a bench. No, So that's basketball. That was good.
A couple of things I wanted to mention real quick.
We do have more about the Alabama betting scandal. Holy moly,
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it's worse than I thought because of who was involved
in it. According to the story, Alabama has fired head
baseball coach Brad Bohannan following an ESPN report regarding suspicious
wagering activity. We talked about this last week. We're like, well,
I just want to know what happened. I would still
like to know the money. They don't tell us how
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much money it was. But according to nola dot Com,
there was a parlay involving Alabama and LSU, as well
as a large straight bet on LSU. Surveillance video from
a sports book at Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati where
bets were placed indicated that the better was communicating with
Bohannan at the time the wagers were placed. Alabama pitcher
of Luke Holeman was slated to start, but the reliever
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was told an hour so before the game that he
would be starting instead. So that information he was told,
he was told, he went and betted. How did they
know by a phone?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Can they zoom it on your phone?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Watch you on talking to any label? My people different
in my phone. That's crazy. The head coach was involved. Bro,
what you do is you tell somebody, then that somebody
tells somebody You don't You're not the direct connection. First
of all, don't do it. Second of all, don't be
an idiot do it like that. There's another one where,
speaking of baseball, there was a Tennessee High school playoff
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series and this normally wouldn't come to any of our
you know feeds, except for what happened. And Father Ryan
is here, isn't it? Is it? Father Ryan Nashville? Yeah,
so a Tennessee high school playoff series has been cast
into the national spotlight. But Endsworth is here too. I
used to go over and like put in the Endsworth
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little putting area over there. Okay, I don't I don't
know where Endsworth is. Yeah, ends I don't even care
if I'm right, it doesn't matter. Connor Cobb from Ensworth
through a no hitter. Well, but he threw one pitch
too many, pitch one twenty one. They have a pitch
limit for fit the game.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Crazy, Yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Pitch one twenty one was one pitch too many under
the TSAAAA I don't know Tennessee Secondary School Athletic Association rules.
The pitch count rule allows for an athlete to throw
more than no more than one hundred and twenty pitches.
You know, somebody's watching that from the other team and they're.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Like, Okay, they haven't taken him out yet. If he
throws one more pitch, one more pitch, we start yelling,
come on, come on, okay, okay, he's going back to
the mountain. Oh my god, is this gonna happen? Oh
my god, he did it? Oh yeah, you know some blueser.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Was doing that. Now, that is against the rules. And
I'm not saying that they didn't follow the rules. They
should be punished accordingly, but you know, some loser was
doing that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I you say, Kevin Nows, it's like eating the other
team's rooting for me. It's like, why is the other
team rooting for me to throw no hitter? How that
makes sense?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Oh? Crazy? Huh. Kevin Duran comes to number ten highest
paid athletes eighty nine million bucks, Federer at nine ninety
five million, steph at eight hundred million, Phil Mickelson one
oh six, Dustin Onnson one oh seven, Canelo won ten,
Lebron one nineteen, Bape soccer one twenty, Messi soccer one thirty,
Rinaldo soccer one thirty six. I think there's something to
(23:11):
that soccer game, boys. Yeah, maybe I should start training
for that instead. Never too late, Tiger Woods maybe over
as a regular player because his main like his normal
caddy just moved over. So that's kind of the sign
that they're looking at, right, Yeah, I mean, but also
he just went under under the Knight for another surgery,
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so probably right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But even if you're that caddy, right, you're kind of
probably saying, hey, I just need consistent work over here,
Like if you're not gonna if you're only gonna play
three times a year, I want to do a little
bit more than just that.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But then Tiger, like play three times a year and
I'll make sure to pay you the same way. Yeah,
then you live a better life not having to be
on the road.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He just loves his job.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, So Fred Siegel, he has the Twitter and the
Instagram freezing Cold Takes, where he constantly reposts people that
had really wrong takes or opinions in sports. He wrote
this book called Football Media's Most Inaccurate Predictions and the
Fascinating Stories behind Them. Never knew what this guy look like.
I've been following him forever. I love freazing goal takes
(24:13):
so funny. Yeah, here we go, here's my interview with him. Here, Fred,
how are you great?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Great?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Hey, let me say it is weird and awesome to
see her face. Because I follow you on Twitter, I
had no idea what you look like the fact that
there's this real it's like Pinocchio, he's a real boy.
The fact that you exist.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Is yeah, yeah, I don't usually trust pictures of myself.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So first of all, love what you do. I just
want to kind of know that because I have the
book and I want to talk about the book and
some of the stuff here, but I just want to
know kind of the genesis of this. And when you
started it, was it a youth thing or did you
think it could possibly blow up like it has?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
No, not at all. I mean I started as I
was using Twitter all the time just for getting my
new is like sports stuff. This was like eight years ago.
I started it as a counter to just sports media
folks reposting their accurate predictions along with your self congratuatory
messages themselves. I said to myself, I, soone should be
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the person to repost the tweets and the quotes where
some of those media folks turned out to be wrong.
And I just became that person. I didn't expect to
become big, but it did. At that time, I don't
think Search was being people weren't using Search as much
or you know, going back and finding other tweets as much.
At that time, I don't think people knew how good
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the search function was or how easy it was to use.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Is it pretty cool with someone like a Scott van
Pelt or I mean I could list a lot of
the people who will then send you a message to
being like like like there's just talking with you or
whomever runs the account. All takes exposed, Like I'll see
these guys be like yeah, and I'll mention you in
a tweet or something like. That's pretty cool when people
who are like really respected to media acknowledge that what
you do is actually a serf.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's always cool. I mean at first it
was really I didn't even know what to do with it,
but now it's yeah, every time it's school. It's cool.
Sometimes when there's someone who you don't know that they
even knew about the account will tag me in something.
It's so a player or something like that, a good
player or a good coach or a GM.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I get a lot of people tagging you in my
account that I just know, and they're constantly going. You know,
if you see somebody post something even recently and that
they I'll see four or five people tag you just
that I follow because I follow you and them. But
I got to assume your feed is constantly filled with
people who are constantly finding old takes that were wrong
(26:46):
or kind of wrong. Is it just you having to
dive through and figure out the ones that are worth reposting?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, so many. I mean well seventy percent of it.
I get constant tagged with seventy percent of it, or
either ones I've used or one that I just was
tagged to five minutes earlier. Sometimes when something happens, twenty
five people will tag you to the same one at
the same time, so you have to wade through all that.
(27:13):
But yeah, it's great with everybody tagging me because then
they remember. Fans remember what people say, or especially the
reporters the report. Like a person who does TV rate
or radio does a three hour show totally about sports.
They don't remember what they said the day before. But
a fan, if you're a fan of the Knicks and
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you know Nick Wright or someone on Fox Sports says
that's something that the Knicks sting. All Knicks fans will
remember that and save it for years, so they'll all
be happy to send it to me. And it happens
with any sport, any team. Sometimes it's just too niche
for me to use. But let's say, uh, you know
(27:59):
Dre women's basketball won a game, someone fan will send
me something that someone said they weren't going to win
the game. Like it's like that any type of sport,
in any type of level.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I have the book here, I'm holding it up for
the camera. It is freezing cold takes and you know
this one's football predominantly. And so is this the first
time that you've been able to make money off of
this specifically?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well? No, I mean I make money in other ways
promoting whatever people want to promote, or you know, try
and making trying to promote different accounts, our different websites
and their articles and things like that, but mostly on Instagram.
Twitter is harder. But yeah, I mean this is the
first big project I've done, this book. Yeah, yeah, it's
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really what I wanted to do from the beginning. After
a year of doing this, I never I've never gotten
into the gambling thing. I've never gotten into and that's
those are the people who try to reach out to
me have me promote their stuff all the time, and
I've never gotten into you just promoting other things that
I know nothing about. But the book is what I
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really wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So in the book, it's not just a coffee table
book if you're just putting old tweets out there. What
I like is you actually dive into stuff here, as
for example, Bill Belichick, that's a pretty famous one. Like,
give our listeners here because this is such a good story.
I think it would make our listeners go, Okay, I'd
like to read more in a similar vein kind of
give the Bill Belichick story.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
All right, Well, so Bill Belichick was. Bill Belichick was
one of the most ridiculed coaches when he was hired
by the Patriots. And one of the reasons why is
because he had been a head coach for the Browns
of the Old Browns before they moved to Baltimore, and
he was the head coach of that team and they
end a losing record. He made the playoffs once, and
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then he ended up going back to being an assistant
coach for Parcels, which he had done before with the Giants,
And after three years he was with ourselves with the Patriots,
and then he moved on to the Jets with Parcels
and then two thousand after in January of two thousand,
after Parcels left, he quit the Jets, and in Belichick's
(30:13):
contract it said that he would become the head coach
of the Jets as as soon as Parcels quit. He
was the defensive coordinator before that, and after one day
with the Jets he quit, and he did on a
press conference where he read a note that said I
quit as the New York Jets in the typical Belichick manner.
(30:35):
And he took so much crap from the New York
media right there were articles about how he was too afraid,
he couldn't never be the head coach and all this
type of things, and he quit because he wanted to
become the head coach of the Patriots. And it took
like three weeks of legal crap, and the Patriots had
to give up draft picks in order to get Belichick
(30:56):
because he was under contract with the Jets. And there
were so many articles within those three weeks talking about
how Belichick, how could he how why the Patriots want
him so bad? He has a losing record, he can't
talk to anybody. What's his name from? Oh no, what's
the guy from Adrian watchon Aarowski. He was a writer
for the in like a local New York paper or
(31:20):
a New Jersey paper. I think it was The Record
or something like that, and he wrote that, you know,
Bill Belichick will never be a head coach. He's not
good enough. He doesn't have the people skills. He should
be behind in the basement. Look he filmed, he was
particularly hard. He was a beat writer at the time
covering the Jets, and so when he got eventually got
(31:43):
hired by the Patriots, all New England and Boston media
started railing on. So it was like a month worth
of articles and talk show people just going after Belichick.
And even after his first season they went eight and
eight or something like that, or they didn't make the playoffs,
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and think they had a losing record that could have
been six and ten. His first season with New England
and then his second season with Downgland they were one
and three and then Drew Bledsoe got hurt and Tom
Brady came in and everything kind of just shuttled from there.
But Bill Belichick was probably the higher of Bill Belichick
is probably one of the most scrutinized highers I've seen.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Fraising cult takes. Football media's most inaccurate predictions and the
fascinating stories behind them. You can get the book on Amazon.
And what I like about it too is you don't
have to be like a nerd like me that really
likes the granular part of the game. You can This
is fun for that. But also if you're just a
casual sports fan.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Chapters Rolet Hart, you don't have to read the first
chapter to read the third chapter. You could pick and choose,
and it's a lot like the Belichick chapter. I just
go through the whole context of why people were saying
what they were saying, and some could come to read
it and say to themselves, Oh, I can understand why
they didn't like Belichick.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I bet you get a lot of draft like analysis
that was way wrong, especially when draft season comes back around.
You know, I got to imagine people are tagging you
in all kinds of stuff that you've seen one hundred
times about drafts three, four, five, six years ago. Can
you think of anyone offhand that you've got a lot
of tweets about where like this is a terrible pick
ended up being pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's polarizing players. Polarizing players. One of them is Josh
Allen Now josh Allen was a mixed bag. But the
people who didn't like him, they did not like him.
There's specific statistics that will be relied upon, whether it's
physical traits, which Josh Allen had great physical traits, that's
why he was so high on everybody's list, But he
had a terrible completion percentage in college, so it was like, oh,
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he's only being picked because he has a big he
has great physical traits, and people would compare him to
Ryan Lee back in that time with Ryan Leaf and
Peyton Manning in nineteen ninety eight where Peyton Manning was
drafted ahead of Ryan Leaf and Ryan Leaf was supposed
to be such a great quarterback it turned out to
be a huge bus And anytime there's a big player
or a big guy with big physical traits and didn't
(34:06):
have the greatest NFL college career, Anthony Richardson's one of
these guys who was just picked forth by the Colts.
He didn't have a great completion percentage and he didn't
have a great winning percent but he's an absolutely absurd athlete.
So he's one of those guys you want to save.
What everybody's saying, there's a lot of guys who everyone
thought was going to be great it turned out to
be really bad. Those are fun too, like Josh Rosen
(34:28):
chosen Rosen. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Two final questions for you here. Number one, have you
ever had riders or athletes to reach out to you
because you've upset them that they've exposed something they would
rather not have exposed.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah? I have, And sometimes it's sometimes I'll take it
down because I you know, I'm not if they believe
that it's going to be harmful to them. But most
of the time they're complaining that it wasn't it wasn't wrong.
They'll say, oh, that wasn't wrong. He didn't really turned
out to be bad. But at the beginning, before I
(35:00):
had a lot of followers, I used to get a
lot of people would quote tweet me or reply to
me that I was a loser or something like that.
And because there was no really repercussion. But once I
got a lot of following out just retweet those people
and they it was a bad look. It's always a
bad look.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Final question for you, because a lot of these shows
now and I could list three or four of them,
they have people on for the sake of arguing and
sometimes people will take an opinion probably they don't really
believe in. Do you ever have to dissect ones see
which ones are actually real and which ones were just
for TV or clickbait?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Well, impossible to do that, bully. But I think inherently
most of the opinions that are made on TV are
for entertaining the viewer, or else you wouldn't have the show. So,
I mean, none of those people are going to say, oh, well,
it could be a good game. You know, I don't
know who's gonna win, but both teams have a good chance.
(35:57):
But that would be boring, it'd be fired. But so
they say things I think that they mean, but they
say I'm a little bit extremely like hyperbolic. But some
people like Pritt, Skip Bayless, and there's others I guess
you can tell right away this is their shtick. Like
Skip Bayless will always say something bad about Lebron James.
(36:20):
He always takes that side, like you can't really take
that seriously. But in the book, it's funny because in
the book I go over in the chapter about Dallas
Cowboys from the nineties, Skip Bayless was doing the same
thing and he does now, but just as a columnist
and he did it with Troy Aikman, and there was
a big controversy with him and Troy Acan back in
(36:41):
like mid nineties when he wrote a book and wrote
that he heard rumors that Troy was gay, and Troy
hates him forever since that, but before that, Skip would
write an article every day about how he hated Troy Aikman,
about how Troygan was terrible, how he'd never win a thing.
He never would do that, you know, just like he
did with Lebron. So that was his stick forever. So
(37:01):
I don't really take those seriously. I don't use him
that much, and some guys like that try not to.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Right here, it is freezing could takes football and media's
most inaccurate predictions and the fascinating stories behind him. I
like it. I was gonna like it even if it
was a coffee table book, cause I thought that would
be interesting. But it's even better that it's like and
I don't want to say in depth because I don't
want people to think that it's so inside baseball that
you can understand it. But there's some really great information
here that I feel like, and you just tell a
(37:30):
story through what you do. It's not even that you're like, look,
how wrong everybody was. You're able to kind of recount Yeah,
you're able to kind of recount history, real fun, big
parts of history through what you do every single day. Hey,
A big fan of your feeds obviously. And the part
of the book that I have, Rex, I'm gonna finish
the whole thing is really great. And thank you for
the time. Fred, really appreciate it. Good luck with the book.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Thanks so much. I appreciate Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Thank you, Tretzie. We got to check out the book again.
Really good, really easy to read. We're done. I go
with my final thought. First, first of all, read here
is your putter. Read is lucky that I'm left handed,
but because you can come good if you want. Okay,
because I'm left handed.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You can have your own putter head covered.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Because I'm left handed. And I, you know, have a
deal with Cobra. They give me a lot of great stuff.
And I went and did a putter fitting with Cobra.
I didn't know that you need to put. They had
all these analytics on me putting, but I don't know
that I could go and put the same way today.
I think it's just like the day I'm not good
enough to be consistent even in my inconsistent analytics, right,
(38:42):
but still getting a new putter and I'm not used
that one, but like once and so I read it's
left handed. He gets it. Read Just there you go, buddy,
Thank you man. I appreciate it. So my final thought
is that. And secondly, what is the driving round? Just
crushing it? God? I mean, I was hitting it so good.
I'm like, yes, maybe let's go have a simulator freaking
laying it out like I'm I shot one over through nine,
(39:05):
It's played nine holes, went to the course. I'm broken
in my brain. I don't know. I'm broken reading I
went twice.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm broken, really right, it's all in your head now.
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I don't know, dude. I don't know because I get
on a court out somewhere and I don't really get
nervo or I don't let that kind of stuff affect
me so much. I'm not super comfortable playing golf front
of others, but I've been a fair golfer for a while.
I can't even get the ball in the air to
where I'm like, what's happening? I thought one time, Okay,
maybe my body's it's been like reading. I played golf
(39:38):
twice small, we did like a part of three nine,
we did another and just bizarre, dang, something's broken in
my brain. Reader, What would you like to say about that?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Oh yeah, going on that. I mean you even similar video.
As soon as we got done, I went right home
and got the simulators, like not even looking at the
ball and yeah. Just but my aunt came up this
weekend and I was trying to entertain her, but also
I really wanted to play golf too, so I took
her out on the course with me and no. Man, Yeah,
(40:14):
but so I didn't know if I was gonna get
paired up with people or not. So we go out there,
and of course we get paired up with two guys.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And these guys are studs.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
They they looked the part.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I know, they're incredible, and they played incredible. And so
the whole the whole time I'm playing, I have to
deal with me hitting a shot. I can shake it
into the woods, and she's over at the cart going yay.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, man, that's funny. I probably thought that was your girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
God, guys, I don't know, man, was it was Uh,
it was rough but you know you want rough you
saw me.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, that's true. Its way rougher. Then your aunt cheering
for you, giving you love and support. That is true.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
That is But when you shake it to the woods
and she goes yay, and I'm just.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Like, m almost at someone's car, is that making it worse? Yeah,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm like, no, this is not a yea good? All right, Kevin,
let's continue the golf talk here. I just want to
say thank you again for Friday. Went and got fitted.
It was awesome, had a lot of fun reading and
I and you were there. You were hitting it great there.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
First I wasn't and then I was like, ask, screw this,
I'm just gonna hit it like a baby baby. Yeah,
and it's fine. I hate like a baby baby, but
I was like twenty yards shorter, so I was like,
I gotta hit like a bababy everything. Laugh me for
like a baybaby. I don't know what. My brain's broken,
but it was straight. My brain's broken, and it looked
good and it sounded good. My brain's broken. I don't
know what the problem is. I have a golf tournament
(41:42):
next week. I'm supposed to play in I got a
big game this week. I'm supposed to play in with
like fancy people. I don't even want to play. I've
never not wanted to.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Play dang that much, huh.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I've never won. Yeah, because it's not physical, and my
swing feels great and my swing is effective on the range,
just puring them five irons, drivers, wedges, simulator puring them.
I got on the course. I don't even know which
(42:15):
end of the I was holding the head, so I
swing the bottom.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It is so bad with the grip. God, see, I
would have been able to see that if you know.
An invite actually Sunday.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Actually we invited you on Saturday. You said no, we
got the Celtics game to play. That was Friday, whatever
the day was, I don't remember. Then we did invite
you to each other read and I I said, let's
invite Kevin because I only had a brief window to play.
And he goes cool, and then he goes, oh, there's
only the only spot for two on this reservation, so
we only could put two on there, and said you
already turned us down. We were like scream, so well.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
The vest is He texted me, Hey, you want to
go golfing? Blah blah blah. Yeah five minutes they don't
get a call. Hey, so yeah, that must happen.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I couldn't text. All right, you guys, having great rest
of the day. We'll see you when we see you
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Thanks to our crew, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, video
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(43:19):
The most importantly, thank you for listening to Bobby Bones.
We'll talk to you next week.
It's a podcast, came twenty five wist whist So, yeah,
it's too.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Bad, But what didn't you expect it's.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
A podcast, come twenty five whistline. Oil man. I'm gonna
tell you right now. I watched all of it, the
Suns and Denver. I'm gonna tell you it is one
of the best offensive games I ever seen him a
whole life. Do you watch it?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's crazy. I mean, Yokic, he should have won the
MVP just from that game last night. They should retroactively
take it away from Embead and they lost. But he
could not be stopped. I'm talking about little flicks. I'm
talking about post moves. He was so good and him
and Mary were doing too man ball that they couldn't stop.
It wasn't even straight picking rolls. They were just running
(00:54):
two man and he hit. And we will talk about
that in a second. But I was just so inspired
to start training for the league again.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I thought, you're gonna start with the Celtics, So I'm
glad you started there instead.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, I started there, not because I don't want you
to have to suffer through this Celtics part of it,
but I just had watched that game and was like,
got it between Booker shooting the eyeballs out Durant just playing.
I mean he was extra passing it to Booker whenever
(01:28):
he had an open shot. It was so freaking cool
to see. Yeah, that game was so it was just
a really great game. We'll talk about it a little bit,
think of very much. There was a parent in Florida.
They had to arrest a parent because he punched a
voluntary mPire on the back of the head. What what
parents do with umpires? How they treat him, how they
yell at them? Wild the umpire's doing Okay, the attacker said,
(01:51):
he was just defending his kid. By the way, how
about not a pet punching him in the back of
the head. You want to punch somebody, big shot, punch
him in the face. At least give him a shot
a duck. Don't punch them. But if you do, and
you got to punch somebody, don't punch them in the
back of the head, you big woos. Investigators determined that
an upset parent punch a sixty three year old umpire
(02:13):
in the back of the head. It happened as the
Empire exited the field gates between innings. There's a video
shows him walking up boom knocking them out. The sheriff's
is the umpire is a disabled veteran and officiates baseball
because he loves it. He loves the kids in the community.
Players and parents can be seen rushing to the Empire's aid.
(02:36):
The Empire had addressed the kid for disruptive behavior. Oh,
I can't believe a kid would be have disrupt behavior
when his dad acts like that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Put far from the trill.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Wow, w e s eight terrible parent. No more games
to the parent. He can't go to any games, even
high school games, college the kids in the NFL don't. Nope,
you get to go into nowhere where your kid's playing.
Ever again, that's like a piece of crap. That is
a piece of crap, dude, right there. Let's say you
do want to fight an umpire, which you shouldn't because
he's volunteering at least be like yo, ump let's square
(03:06):
up in chunk yep. But also he's sixty six. He
probably shouldn't even do that. But to punch him in
the back of the head. What a freaking loser. Speaking
of losers, Celtics. Now, well, let's go over to the
Tittle Tattle.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Go ahead to name.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The tittle Tattle.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Let's get up.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
With these late night games for the Western Conference finals
making it tough to stay up, and I was wondering,
what time zone do you think has it best for
sports fans?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Once I went to Hawaii and the games are like
noon because they're way back. Yeah you think LA's back.
I think it's another two or three hours or something.
And Hawaii was that was crazy because you're watching games.
It just felt odd. It was like, have some breakfast
and watch the primetime game on the NFL, probably West
(03:59):
Coast because they get to watch them all and they
get to finish, even the late games and not have
to be exhausted at work the next day. Imagine your
East Coast and you do get a game starts on
nine o'clock, so that means midnight. If you're lucky, then
you got to get up at six or seven and
go to work the next day. Terrible West Coast. I
(04:20):
would want to live West Coast times. Izon't know if
I got to choose, because it's just too far back.
I don't like it. Too many things have happened, you know.
Lucky for me, I have a bunch of people that
I work with that live West Coast, and I can
call them even when it works over for all of us.
My wife's like, you don't need to bother people after five.
It's only three there. So that's But probably the Western
(04:43):
Pacific PST whatever, all that crap is.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Mountaintome is pretty good. Yeah, right in between better than Central. Yes,
East is the worst. Just go right and work back
and it gets less sucky as you go. Yes, because
I remember being out there during.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
The NFL season. I would wake up and there will
be games on at ten o'clock. NFL games at ten
in the morning. So it's like you because what happens
on Fantasy football days or any NFL week You wake up,
you can't wait, you can't wait. It is forever noon.
You wake up at nine to fifteen. You've watched the
clock until noon. Yeah, probably the old PST number one.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Next, the players for this year is the Match Golf
charity game were announced last week. If you got to
choose with any three athletes, former or current, who would.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They be Who's playing the match?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's gonna be Klay Thompson and Steph Curry versus Patrick
Mahomes and Travis Kelsey, Chiefs and Warriors.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Curry is a really good golfer. Is Mahomes or Kelsey?
And are they playing with handicaps? Probably not handicaps.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Mahomes is pretty good because he's played in it before.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't know about Kelsey, but he goes a lot.
I see him on Twitter and when not playing charities
all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Curry is really good. Yeah, Curry had a really bad
game in the playoffs and he's just wanted to play
golf next day, and Carr was like, cool, just go
play golf. He played golf and then came to the
Ring and they won the next game.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That's that's a trick.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I'm gonna go. I go Mark Grace first, Qastion
for the Cobs back in the day, still there, I
mean still live, not there as an earth. He's still alive. Okay,
So I go Mark Grace. Two more athletes that I
get to choose to play golf with. I don't really
have like a love for any specific athlete except from
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when I was with was a kid, So I think
it would be cool to play golf with. Can I
pick like an old coach like Barry Switzer.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Because he played at Arkansas and then went to coach
obviously Oklahoma and the Cowboys. So I think that would
be fun because you get to hear like all the
old stories. And I sat beside I'm on a Southwest
flight once. I was awesome for like the fifty minutes
I sat with them.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You talked to them.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh, yeah, awesome, it was amazing. Have you ever told
that story?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I got on a flight on the last one there
I was. My connection was slow. I run over jump
on the flight from Dallas to Little Rock and there's
only one seat in the back and it's between these
two old men, and I'm like, oh, they're gonna hate me.
Middle seat set in boom, Barry Switzer talk to me
the whole time.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Wow, it's really cool. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
So I'm gonna go Mark Grace Barry Switzer. Tom Brady
would be cool.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
He's just a living legend. Especially have to like talk
to me about stuff. Is the role they have to
answer any question? I ask?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Of course? Yeah, yeah. Number one rule, who would you
put in yours? I would go Tom Brady for sure,
and then probably.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Manning over tom Brady I'm palling Brady out, putting Manning in.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Ok yeah, Okay, well our team is gonna beat your
team in Yeah, so I'll go Tom Brady. And I
don't even think he plays golf with David Ortiz. If
he does play golfing, I don't know if my guys
like golf.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I just picked him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay, yeah, and then I'm gonna throw a gronk in
there just because it'd be fun.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Okay, you're full Boston dude. Well yeah, hey, get some
new hobbies, all right? Next time.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
With the NFL schedule set to be announced this week,
which matchup do you want to see the most against
the tees on opening night?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I mean, always a Super Bowl? Right, isn't it mostly
Super Bowl? Don't they do that most times? Do they
played the Super Bowl again?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Matchup? Well, they don't always play each other that following year,
but this year they do play the Eagles at home.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But I thought they always came back that one of
the beginning games with the Super Bowl from last year.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, it just depends if they're on their schedule or not.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The bull crap. Probably, I would like see the Bills
again because I like the Chief Bills rivalry just straight up.
I think that's always gonna be fun. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,
I think that's super cool. I'm nervous watching Dolphins games. Yeah,
Tu said he wanted to retire. Thought about it for
a while. I don't know if I'm even a defensive
player and I'm gonna run up. I think too, I
should just get flags and they pull the flags and
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he's down. I think everybody would agree that's okay. Yes,
Tua gets to play flag and everybody else gets to
hit hard. But again, the Eagles will be awesome because
that's that's super Bowl, right m hm, yeah, yeah, so
I would go I would love for it to be Eagles,
but I thought it was always super Bowl. So okay,
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I'm gonna go Bills. If it's not the super Bowl,
it's on with the Bills, Okay, just because I like
that rivalry, all right? What else?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Nick Foles? Remember Nick Foles? He was released by the
Colts over the weekend, and I was wondering, which quarterback
do you forget about the most that won a Super
Bowl in the past.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Well, it's not Trent Delfer, because everybody always talks about
Trent Delpher and that can you believe you won a
super Bowl like that is so much and that's so said,
and the fact that he's an analyst and it's said
a lot. Now he's a coach down at you ab
probably Brad Johnson for the Bucks because when the Bucks
won that Super Bowl, was grood In the coach of
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the Bucks?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Then?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, that defense those nasty yeah killed the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
But that's why, and that's what comes to mind. You
don't think about Mark Rippin our excuse? Yeah, Mark Repints
want two for the Redskins. Back in the day. My
buddy had a pullover, a starter pullover. You know anything
about that, Kevin, the full starter pullover that goes all
the way down pull over, not like a jacket and
Bert pollover. K cackling't a Ford one, but he had one.
To remember Mark Reppen winning that Super Bowl. Joe Gibbs
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was the head coach then. Okay, so that's all I
have to remember the players and when they played, because
I don't do well with the years. Brad Johnson didn't
Mark Rippin, That's what I hated when the Redskins were good.
There's just no need I hated the Redskins. I didn't
even love the Cowboys. That's not The Redskins was such
a losers because I didn't like their colors, even though
they were dark red, red and yellow. It's not a
mix of colors the anger in your face, but their
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helmets were gross. I just hated the Redskins for some reason.
Did you like the running back what was his name,
big white guy Hortous? Oh no, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
John? Something that they had when they won the Super Bowl?
Number forty four.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You can have to remind me about who that is
because I don't remember a white running but I remember
Mike all saw it is awesome down with Bucks Riggins.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeahs No, I hated it.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I hated it all right? What else?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Last one with Bronnie James committing to USC over the weekend?
Which star are you most excited to watch next year
at USC? Bronni or Caleb Williams. It's easily Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Like that's it. I don't even care about watching Bronnie
except see, well, how many minutes is he getting? Because
I think his last name wasn't James one. They tried
to make him a five star and I think one
of the services has listened as a five years a
five star, he's a consensus four star. I watch him
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play Sierra Canyon, right, I watch him play as in
like I watch clips or extended clips, which sometimes they'll
show two or three minutes at a time, and not
just him dunking it. He's just a guy on that team.
But to get on that team, you got to be
really good. Don't get me wrong. It's like you're just
a guy on the Dream Team. Well, those guys are
Larry Bird and so he has to be really great.
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But they want to get drafted after one year. And
the thing is somebody's gonna draft him because lebron said
wherever he goes, he's gonna go. Is this the easiest
passing pass into the NBA ever? Yeah, because I haven't
seen anything with Bronnie where I go. That is an
NBA guy right there, Like he would go to the
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NBA this year because most of those kids that go
first round in the draft after one year in college
would have also gone and been drafted their final year
in high school. Because going into the year, they're like,
this is our draft projection, and mostly all those kids
are already listed somewhere. I just don't think Bronne would
get drafted this year.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Nope, not at all. I've heard that a lot of
people saying he's not even I mean, he's good, obviously
you going to USC.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But when you're compared to lebron and some say you're
a five star. When they say he's not that good,
they mean he's not as good as other people who
are given the same type of credit. Yes, so, kayleb
Williams should be awesome, should be the first overall pick
in the NFL draft. What I will be anxious to
see with Brownie is how many minutes he gets and
how much of a contributor he is more than I
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just can't wait to watch him because he's so dynamic
and amazing.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I guess defense is a strong point.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, me too when I play ball. Yeah, yeah, you
know what, because he's very good offensively exactly. All right,
that's it his name, the Tannel townel all Right's floors yours?
What do you want to say about the Celtics and Sixers?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
It was I had a feeling going in that game.
I didn't really expect that they were gonna win. I
kind of knew the Sixers would show up a lot
more than they did in game two. In Game three,
and that comeback was awesome. For a long time, I
was like, Okay, it's not gonna happen. We're down by
a double digits. Most of the game. Comeback was great.
It was their defense and their energy more than anything.
But once again, it's late in games not calling timeouts,
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and I'm still up in the air about that. Not
being able to execute when they have a shot to
win the game on both overtime and regulation.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
They're not calling a timeout. It's a good discussion point
because if you do call a timeout, you go back up.
You got a shorter distance to go because you're going
to reset half court, right, But also the defense has
a chance to get set. So it's hard for me
to argue that because if it would have worked, and
that's the case always, but I definitely understood the strategy
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in it. It just didn't work out this time, right,
But yeah, since it didn't work out, I'll be upset
to Ah I call time out.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And the last time he did call time out when
they ran a set play, it was to Marcus Smart
and drive down the lane. I don't want market, I
love Smart, but to have him handle the ball last
It's like, come on, we got Tatum and Jaen and
Jaylen Brown didn't do much and not his fault, but
the last few minutes and he is he's been their
best player all postseason. He needs that ball.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
There's like forty seconds in the seconds left on the
clock in overtime and Tatum hit that three. Did you
feel like it was over?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes? I yeah, deep down, I was like, Okay, we
got this, but credit the Harden man. I can't stand
watching the guy play. But credit though in the game,
like he made any shot that needed to be made
he made. He hit the floater less than twenty seconds left.
Knowsn't overtime the three hit Yeah, And when Jalen came
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over and helped on MB down low before he kicked
it out the hard and I was like, oh no, no, no,
I could give him two. We're only up by two.
But to leave Harden, who already had forty or thirty
nine points, I think of the time wide open like that.
That's tough.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That line Harden forty seven minutes, forty two points, eight rebounds,
nine assists. The nine assists, that's a heavy nine assist
from Marden. That's really Harden's playing really well.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, it's it's like it's one extreme or the other.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Though. He went six of nine from three, especially the
dagger there at the end. Inbeid thirty four points, thirteen rebounds,
four assists, Tatum twenty four points, eighteen rebounds. The eighteen
rebounds from Tatum insane.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, because they were talking about he didn't think he
had two points in the first half, but he was
grabbing boards all over. He was doing different things, and yeah, man,
that's tough.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The Heat and the Knicks. I almost just want to
know who wins. I don't care that much about it anymore.
I don't The games aren't fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Right, especially when we watch the other games. You're like, oh, yeah,
so just tell me who wins.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's like I want to hit sim Yeah, like an
NBA two K you can just simulate the game. Just
sim the game and then let us know who wins.
But the Heat beat the Knicks one O five eighty
six or up two to one. And I don't think
Butler was fully healthy. He hasn't got the ankle injury,
but I guess didn't really have to be. However, he
scored twenty eight points played thirty six minutes. I don't care.
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I don't care. I do think that if Boston wins,
they easily win the next series. I do think if
Philadelphia wins, they could have some trouble with the heat. Yeah,
but the Boston Miami rematch is a bit intriguing to
me because Jimmy Butler that last second shot end of
the game last year almost went in from in front
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of the rim like that. That's fun.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They scare me. The Knicks don't scare me.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah, me either.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
The heat, just because you just don't know what you're
getting nine in a night out and they'll always play
you hard. They scare me.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Lakers whooped up on the Warriors. But it's gone one Lakers,
boom punching the gut the Warriors. Okay, we're gonna play
a little different here. No three Lakers, so two to one.
Dangel Russell had a bunch threes. Yeah, I'll look, I
didn't watch I watch a little bit of the game,
probably third quarter, but I'll just look at the stat
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line and see what's up. And I saw Dangel Russell.
Really he already hit a bunch of threes. Man, if
he's putting in points and Anthony Davis's playing. No, no,
let me say it's different. If Anthony Davis is healthy,
the Lakers are my favorite. I said it before. Every
time he falls down, I'm like, well, that's it, because
he falls down a decent amount for a big do too.
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He doesn't fall down like MB does. MB goes down
every play.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, MB's standing clapping for a shot from the bench
and it goes in and he falls down. He's not
part of the play falls down. So yeah, as long
as Anthony Davis stays healthy. Man, I just feel like
the Laker Lebron didn't shoot in the first quarter. I
don't think yeah, so he didn't have to. And I
think Lebron is very much okay with his role as
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being number one and a half instead of one. I'm
not gonna say he's a number two because sometimes I
needed to be that number one guy still, but I
think he's okay being the one and a half because
he does just go all right, ady, you go, Anthon
Davis'll rebound it, take it all the way down court himself,
then post up, then go up. Yeah. I mean he's
so versatile, he just gets hurt. I just keep waiting
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for that injury.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Anything you want to say about that game, No, I'm
like you, I didn't watch too much of it, especially
when I saw the blout. I think they went on
a big run in the third quarter. But if the
Anthony Davis's defense too. You could tell every time the
Warriors try to go in the paint or something, it's
kind of like embiid where he's blocking shots or he's
altering shots.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And lots of tip shots, lots of tip balls. Let's
get over the game that I just I could not
get enough of. I mean, Yokic is so good. They
didn't win, but he does it all. He had fifty
three points, eleven assists. He was twenty for thirty from
the field. Murray had twenty eight point seven assists, and
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that again, their two man game is so good. You
can tell they played together so much. You'll be like,
Murray goes around, Yokis, shows where he's going, leads him.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Into the lane.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
He's leading them in between two of them defenders right
toward Its gotta be layup, layup, man, freaking booker. He
shot that three pointer in the fourth quarter over those
two dudes at once. Is a heat check. But he
was still hot. I mean both the guys were up
Booker at thirty six and twelve and Durant had thirty six,
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eleven rebounds, six assists. I feel like when I watch,
Durant can take over the game himself at any time.
But I feel like, again, he's letting everybody know Booker's
the guy. He is the new He's a new Booker's team. Like,
I feel like I see that with Katie, even the
extra passes, he could easily taken some of those threes. Yeah,
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but man, Booker just drilling them last night.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
God dang, it was a fun one.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
What a series two two. Durant played forty four minutes.
I mean, that's where it just gets tough. Booker played
forty minutes. They don't really have that. They don't have
much of a bench. No, So that's basketball. That was good.
A couple of things I wanted to mention real quick.
We do have more about the Alabama betting scandal. Holy moly,
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it's worse than I thought because of who was involved
in it. According to the story, Alabama has fired head
baseball coach Brad Bohannan following an ESPN report regarding suspicious
wagering activity. We talked about this last week. We're like, well,
I just want to know what happened. I would still
like to know the money. They don't tell us how
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much money it was. But according to nola dot Com,
there was a parlay involving Alabama and LSU, as well
as a large straight bet on LSU. Surveillance video from
a sports book at Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati where
bets were placed indicated that the better was communicating with
Bohannan at the time the wagers were placed. Alabama pitcher
of Luke Holeman was slated to start, but the reliever
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was told an hour so before the game that he
would be starting instead. So that information he was told,
he was told, he went and betted. How did they
know by a phone?
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Can they zoom it on your phone?
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Watch you on talking to any label? My people different
in my phone. That's crazy. The head coach was involved. Bro,
what you do is you tell somebody, then that somebody
tells somebody You don't You're not the direct connection. First
of all, don't do it. Second of all, don't be
an idiot do it like that. There's another one where,
speaking of baseball, there was a Tennessee High school playoff
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series and this normally wouldn't come to any of our
you know feeds, except for what happened. And Father Ryan
is here, isn't it? Is it? Father Ryan Nashville? Yeah,
so a Tennessee high school playoff series has been cast
into the national spotlight. But Endsworth is here too. I
used to go over and like put in the Endsworth
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little putting area over there. Okay, I don't I don't
know where Endsworth is. Yeah, ends I don't even care
if I'm right, it doesn't matter. Connor Cobb from Ensworth
through a no hitter. Well, but he threw one pitch
too many, pitch one twenty one. They have a pitch
limit for fit the game.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Crazy, Yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Pitch one twenty one was one pitch too many under
the TSAAAA I don't know Tennessee Secondary School Athletic Association rules.
The pitch count rule allows for an athlete to throw
more than no more than one hundred and twenty pitches.
You know, somebody's watching that from the other team and they're.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Like, Okay, they haven't taken him out yet. If he
throws one more pitch, one more pitch, we start yelling,
come on, come on, okay, okay, he's going back to
the mountain. Oh my god, is this gonna happen? Oh
my god, he did it? Oh yeah, you know some blueser.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Was doing that. Now, that is against the rules. And
I'm not saying that they didn't follow the rules. They
should be punished accordingly, but you know, some loser was
doing that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I you say, Kevin Nows, it's like eating the other
team's rooting for me. It's like, why is the other
team rooting for me to throw no hitter? How that
makes sense?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Oh? Crazy? Huh. Kevin Duran comes to number ten highest
paid athletes eighty nine million bucks, Federer at nine ninety
five million, steph at eight hundred million, Phil Mickelson one
oh six, Dustin Onnson one oh seven, Canelo won ten,
Lebron one nineteen, Bape soccer one twenty, Messi soccer one thirty,
Rinaldo soccer one thirty six. I think there's something to
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that soccer game, boys. Yeah, maybe I should start training
for that instead. Never too late, Tiger Woods maybe over
as a regular player because his main like his normal
caddy just moved over. So that's kind of the sign
that they're looking at, right, Yeah, I mean, but also
he just went under under the Knight for another surgery,
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so probably right.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
But even if you're that caddy, right, you're kind of
probably saying, hey, I just need consistent work over here,
Like if you're not gonna if you're only gonna play
three times a year, I want to do a little
bit more than just that.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
But then Tiger, like play three times a year and
I'll make sure to pay you the same way. Yeah,
then you live a better life not having to be
on the road.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
He just loves his job.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, So Fred Siegel, he has the Twitter and the
Instagram freezing Cold Takes, where he constantly reposts people that
had really wrong takes or opinions in sports. He wrote
this book called Football Media's Most Inaccurate Predictions and the
Fascinating Stories behind Them. Never knew what this guy look like.
I've been following him forever. I love freazing goal takes
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so funny. Yeah, here we go, here's my interview with him. Here, Fred,
how are you great?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Great?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Hey, let me say it is weird and awesome to
see her face. Because I follow you on Twitter, I
had no idea what you look like the fact that
there's this real it's like Pinocchio, he's a real boy.
The fact that you exist.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Is yeah, yeah, I don't usually trust pictures of myself.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
So first of all, love what you do. I just
want to kind of know that because I have the
book and I want to talk about the book and
some of the stuff here, but I just want to
know kind of the genesis of this. And when you
started it, was it a youth thing or did you
think it could possibly blow up like it has?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
No, not at all. I mean I started as I
was using Twitter all the time just for getting my
new is like sports stuff. This was like eight years ago.
I started it as a counter to just sports media
folks reposting their accurate predictions along with your self congratuatory
messages themselves. I said to myself, I, soone should be
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the person to repost the tweets and the quotes where
some of those media folks turned out to be wrong.
And I just became that person. I didn't expect to
become big, but it did. At that time, I don't
think Search was being people weren't using Search as much
or you know, going back and finding other tweets as much.
At that time, I don't think people knew how good
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the search function was or how easy it was to use.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Is it pretty cool with someone like a Scott van
Pelt or I mean I could list a lot of
the people who will then send you a message to
being like like like there's just talking with you or
whomever runs the account. All takes exposed, Like I'll see
these guys be like yeah, and I'll mention you in
a tweet or something like. That's pretty cool when people
who are like really respected to media acknowledge that what
you do is actually a serf.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's always cool. I mean at first it
was really I didn't even know what to do with it,
but now it's yeah, every time it's school. It's cool.
Sometimes when there's someone who you don't know that they
even knew about the account will tag me in something.
It's so a player or something like that, a good
player or a good coach or a GM.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I get a lot of people tagging you in my
account that I just know, and they're constantly going. You know,
if you see somebody post something even recently and that
they I'll see four or five people tag you just
that I follow because I follow you and them. But
I got to assume your feed is constantly filled with
people who are constantly finding old takes that were wrong
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or kind of wrong. Is it just you having to
dive through and figure out the ones that are worth reposting?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, so many. I mean well seventy percent of it.
I get constant tagged with seventy percent of it, or
either ones I've used or one that I just was
tagged to five minutes earlier. Sometimes when something happens, twenty
five people will tag you to the same one at
the same time, so you have to wade through all that.
(27:13):
But yeah, it's great with everybody tagging me because then
they remember. Fans remember what people say, or especially the
reporters the report. Like a person who does TV rate
or radio does a three hour show totally about sports.
They don't remember what they said the day before. But
a fan, if you're a fan of the Knicks and
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you know Nick Wright or someone on Fox Sports says
that's something that the Knicks sting. All Knicks fans will
remember that and save it for years, so they'll all
be happy to send it to me. And it happens
with any sport, any team. Sometimes it's just too niche
for me to use. But let's say, uh, you know
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Dre women's basketball won a game, someone fan will send
me something that someone said they weren't going to win
the game. Like it's like that any type of sport,
in any type of level.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I have the book here, I'm holding it up for
the camera. It is freezing cold takes and you know
this one's football predominantly. And so is this the first
time that you've been able to make money off of
this specifically?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well? No, I mean I make money in other ways
promoting whatever people want to promote, or you know, try
and making trying to promote different accounts, our different websites
and their articles and things like that, but mostly on Instagram.
Twitter is harder. But yeah, I mean this is the
first big project I've done, this book. Yeah, yeah, it's
(28:49):
really what I wanted to do from the beginning. After
a year of doing this, I never I've never gotten
into the gambling thing. I've never gotten into and that's
those are the people who try to reach out to
me have me promote their stuff all the time, and
I've never gotten into you just promoting other things that
I know nothing about. But the book is what I
(29:10):
really wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
So in the book, it's not just a coffee table
book if you're just putting old tweets out there. What
I like is you actually dive into stuff here, as
for example, Bill Belichick, that's a pretty famous one. Like,
give our listeners here because this is such a good story.
I think it would make our listeners go, Okay, I'd
like to read more in a similar vein kind of
give the Bill Belichick story.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
All right, Well, so Bill Belichick was. Bill Belichick was
one of the most ridiculed coaches when he was hired
by the Patriots. And one of the reasons why is
because he had been a head coach for the Browns
of the Old Browns before they moved to Baltimore, and
he was the head coach of that team and they
end a losing record. He made the playoffs once, and
(29:52):
then he ended up going back to being an assistant
coach for Parcels, which he had done before with the Giants,
And after three years he was with ourselves with the Patriots,
and then he moved on to the Jets with Parcels
and then two thousand after in January of two thousand,
after Parcels left, he quit the Jets, and in Belichick's
(30:13):
contract it said that he would become the head coach
of the Jets as as soon as Parcels quit. He
was the defensive coordinator before that, and after one day
with the Jets he quit, and he did on a
press conference where he read a note that said I
quit as the New York Jets in the typical Belichick manner.
(30:35):
And he took so much crap from the New York
media right there were articles about how he was too afraid,
he couldn't never be the head coach and all this
type of things, and he quit because he wanted to
become the head coach of the Patriots. And it took
like three weeks of legal crap, and the Patriots had
to give up draft picks in order to get Belichick
(30:56):
because he was under contract with the Jets. And there
were so many articles within those three weeks talking about
how Belichick, how could he how why the Patriots want
him so bad? He has a losing record, he can't
talk to anybody. What's his name from? Oh no, what's
the guy from Adrian watchon Aarowski. He was a writer
for the in like a local New York paper or
(31:20):
a New Jersey paper. I think it was The Record
or something like that, and he wrote that, you know,
Bill Belichick will never be a head coach. He's not
good enough. He doesn't have the people skills. He should
be behind in the basement. Look he filmed, he was
particularly hard. He was a beat writer at the time
covering the Jets, and so when he got eventually got
(31:43):
hired by the Patriots, all New England and Boston media
started railing on. So it was like a month worth
of articles and talk show people just going after Belichick.
And even after his first season they went eight and
eight or something like that, or they didn't make the playoffs,
(32:03):
and think they had a losing record that could have
been six and ten. His first season with New England
and then his second season with Downgland they were one
and three and then Drew Bledsoe got hurt and Tom
Brady came in and everything kind of just shuttled from there.
But Bill Belichick was probably the higher of Bill Belichick
is probably one of the most scrutinized highers I've seen.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Fraising cult takes. Football media's most inaccurate predictions and the
fascinating stories behind them. You can get the book on Amazon.
And what I like about it too is you don't
have to be like a nerd like me that really
likes the granular part of the game. You can This
is fun for that. But also if you're just a
casual sports fan.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Chapters Rolet Hart, you don't have to read the first
chapter to read the third chapter. You could pick and choose,
and it's a lot like the Belichick chapter. I just
go through the whole context of why people were saying
what they were saying, and some could come to read
it and say to themselves, Oh, I can understand why
they didn't like Belichick.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I bet you get a lot of draft like analysis
that was way wrong, especially when draft season comes back around.
You know, I got to imagine people are tagging you
in all kinds of stuff that you've seen one hundred
times about drafts three, four, five, six years ago. Can
you think of anyone offhand that you've got a lot
of tweets about where like this is a terrible pick
ended up being pretty good.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's polarizing players. Polarizing players. One of them is Josh
Allen Now josh Allen was a mixed bag. But the
people who didn't like him, they did not like him.
There's specific statistics that will be relied upon, whether it's
physical traits, which Josh Allen had great physical traits, that's
why he was so high on everybody's list, But he
had a terrible completion percentage in college, so it was like, oh,
(33:44):
he's only being picked because he has a big he
has great physical traits, and people would compare him to
Ryan Lee back in that time with Ryan Leaf and
Peyton Manning in nineteen ninety eight where Peyton Manning was
drafted ahead of Ryan Leaf and Ryan Leaf was supposed
to be such a great quarterback it turned out to
be a huge bus And anytime there's a big player
or a big guy with big physical traits and didn't
(34:06):
have the greatest NFL college career, Anthony Richardson's one of
these guys who was just picked forth by the Colts.
He didn't have a great completion percentage and he didn't
have a great winning percent but he's an absolutely absurd athlete.
So he's one of those guys you want to save.
What everybody's saying, there's a lot of guys who everyone
thought was going to be great it turned out to
be really bad. Those are fun too, like Josh Rosen
(34:28):
chosen Rosen. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Two final questions for you here. Number one, have you
ever had riders or athletes to reach out to you
because you've upset them that they've exposed something they would
rather not have exposed.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah? I have, And sometimes it's sometimes I'll take it
down because I you know, I'm not if they believe
that it's going to be harmful to them. But most
of the time they're complaining that it wasn't it wasn't wrong.
They'll say, oh, that wasn't wrong. He didn't really turned
out to be bad. But at the beginning, before I
(35:00):
had a lot of followers, I used to get a
lot of people would quote tweet me or reply to
me that I was a loser or something like that.
And because there was no really repercussion. But once I
got a lot of following out just retweet those people
and they it was a bad look. It's always a
bad look.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Final question for you, because a lot of these shows
now and I could list three or four of them,
they have people on for the sake of arguing and
sometimes people will take an opinion probably they don't really
believe in. Do you ever have to dissect ones see
which ones are actually real and which ones were just
for TV or clickbait?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Well, impossible to do that, bully. But I think inherently
most of the opinions that are made on TV are
for entertaining the viewer, or else you wouldn't have the show. So,
I mean, none of those people are going to say, oh, well,
it could be a good game. You know, I don't
know who's gonna win, but both teams have a good chance.
(35:57):
But that would be boring, it'd be fired. But so
they say things I think that they mean, but they
say I'm a little bit extremely like hyperbolic. But some
people like Pritt, Skip Bayless, and there's others I guess
you can tell right away this is their shtick. Like
Skip Bayless will always say something bad about Lebron James.
(36:20):
He always takes that side, like you can't really take
that seriously. But in the book, it's funny because in
the book I go over in the chapter about Dallas
Cowboys from the nineties, Skip Bayless was doing the same
thing and he does now, but just as a columnist
and he did it with Troy Aikman, and there was
a big controversy with him and Troy Acan back in
(36:41):
like mid nineties when he wrote a book and wrote
that he heard rumors that Troy was gay, and Troy
hates him forever since that, but before that, Skip would
write an article every day about how he hated Troy Aikman,
about how Troygan was terrible, how he'd never win a thing.
He never would do that, you know, just like he
did with Lebron. So that was his stick forever. So
(37:01):
I don't really take those seriously. I don't use him
that much, and some guys like that try not to.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Right here, it is freezing could takes football and media's
most inaccurate predictions and the fascinating stories behind him. I
like it. I was gonna like it even if it
was a coffee table book, cause I thought that would
be interesting. But it's even better that it's like and
I don't want to say in depth because I don't
want people to think that it's so inside baseball that
you can understand it. But there's some really great information
here that I feel like, and you just tell a
(37:30):
story through what you do. It's not even that you're like, look,
how wrong everybody was. You're able to kind of recount Yeah,
you're able to kind of recount history, real fun, big
parts of history through what you do every single day. Hey,
A big fan of your feeds obviously. And the part
of the book that I have, Rex, I'm gonna finish
the whole thing is really great. And thank you for
the time. Fred, really appreciate it. Good luck with the book.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Thanks so much. I appreciate Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Thank you, Tretzie. We got to check out the book again.
Really good, really easy to read. We're done. I go
with my final thought. First, first of all, read here
is your putter. Read is lucky that I'm left handed,
but because you can come good if you want. Okay,
because I'm left handed.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You can have your own putter head covered.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Because I'm left handed. And I, you know, have a
deal with Cobra. They give me a lot of great stuff.
And I went and did a putter fitting with Cobra.
I didn't know that you need to put. They had
all these analytics on me putting, but I don't know
that I could go and put the same way today.
I think it's just like the day I'm not good
enough to be consistent even in my inconsistent analytics, right,
(38:42):
but still getting a new putter and I'm not used
that one, but like once and so I read it's
left handed. He gets it. Read Just there you go, buddy,
Thank you man. I appreciate it. So my final thought
is that. And secondly, what is the driving round? Just
crushing it? God? I mean, I was hitting it so good.
I'm like, yes, maybe let's go have a simulator freaking
laying it out like I'm I shot one over through nine,
(39:05):
It's played nine holes, went to the course. I'm broken
in my brain. I don't know. I'm broken reading I
went twice.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I'm broken, really right, it's all in your head now.
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I don't know, dude. I don't know because I get
on a court out somewhere and I don't really get
nervo or I don't let that kind of stuff affect
me so much. I'm not super comfortable playing golf front
of others, but I've been a fair golfer for a while.
I can't even get the ball in the air to
where I'm like, what's happening? I thought one time, Okay,
maybe my body's it's been like reading. I played golf
(39:38):
twice small, we did like a part of three nine,
we did another and just bizarre, dang, something's broken in
my brain. Reader, What would you like to say about that?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Oh yeah, going on that. I mean you even similar video.
As soon as we got done, I went right home
and got the simulators, like not even looking at the
ball and yeah. Just but my aunt came up this
weekend and I was trying to entertain her, but also
I really wanted to play golf too, so I took
her out on the course with me and no. Man, Yeah,
(40:14):
but so I didn't know if I was gonna get
paired up with people or not. So we go out there,
and of course we get paired up with two guys.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And these guys are studs.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
They they looked the part.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I know, they're incredible, and they played incredible. And so
the whole the whole time I'm playing, I have to
deal with me hitting a shot. I can shake it
into the woods, and she's over at the cart going yay.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, man, that's funny. I probably thought that was your girlfriend.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
God, guys, I don't know, man, was it was Uh,
it was rough but you know you want rough you
saw me.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, that's true. Its way rougher. Then your aunt cheering
for you, giving you love and support. That is true.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
That is But when you shake it to the woods
and she goes yay, and I'm just.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Like, m almost at someone's car, is that making it worse? Yeah,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm like, no, this is not a yea good? All right, Kevin,
let's continue the golf talk here. I just want to
say thank you again for Friday. Went and got fitted.
It was awesome, had a lot of fun reading and
I and you were there. You were hitting it great there.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
First I wasn't and then I was like, ask, screw this,
I'm just gonna hit it like a baby baby. Yeah,
and it's fine. I hate like a baby baby, but
I was like twenty yards shorter, so I was like,
I gotta hit like a bababy everything. Laugh me for
like a baybaby. I don't know what. My brain's broken,
but it was straight. My brain's broken, and it looked
good and it sounded good. My brain's broken. I don't
know what the problem is. I have a golf tournament
(41:42):
next week. I'm supposed to play in I got a
big game this week. I'm supposed to play in with
like fancy people. I don't even want to play. I've
never not wanted to.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Play dang that much, huh.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I've never won. Yeah, because it's not physical, and my
swing feels great and my swing is effective on the range,
just puring them five irons, drivers, wedges, simulator puring them.
I got on the course. I don't even know which
(42:15):
end of the I was holding the head, so I
swing the bottom.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
It is so bad with the grip. God, see, I
would have been able to see that if you know.
An invite actually Sunday.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Actually we invited you on Saturday. You said no, we
got the Celtics game to play. That was Friday, whatever
the day was, I don't remember. Then we did invite
you to each other read and I I said, let's
invite Kevin because I only had a brief window to play.
And he goes cool, and then he goes, oh, there's
only the only spot for two on this reservation, so
we only could put two on there, and said you
already turned us down. We were like scream, so well.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
The vest is He texted me, Hey, you want to
go golfing? Blah blah blah. Yeah five minutes they don't
get a call. Hey, so yeah, that must happen.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I couldn't text. All right, you guys, having great rest
of the day. We'll see you when we see you
by Everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones and performed
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Thanks to our crew, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, video
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We'll talk to you next week.
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