With flag football officially being accepted into the 2028 Olympics, Eddie and Bobby give their dream QB and 2 WR's they would like to see represent the United States. The guys visited Western Kentucky as part of the new series "Too Much Access", and they talked to head coach Tyson Helton and QB Austin Reed about their careers, coaching Sam Hunt and when Austin knew he was a collegiate athlete. Plus, Caleb Williams is reportedly asking for something from an NFL team that seems impossible, and Bobby runs through a series of 'what would you rather' questions.
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Speaker 4 (01:09):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
He he's wearing a South Carolina glove which Bamber broke
his foot kicking something after they lost to Florida.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I wonder what he kicked. He never said what he kicked? Like,
was it first wall? Okay, I would think. I don't
think you kick a person whoever was near him.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
There we go, let's start the show. Coming up, We'll
talk to coach Tyson Hilton. He's the hey coach at
Western Kentucky. Done some really good things up there. And
that is our episode of too Much Access this week.
So now let's go to the tittle tattle.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The let's all right?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Flag football is officially a part of the Olympics. So
if you could have a team with one quarterback, two
wide receivers from the NFL, who would you pick.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Do we know if they're going to actually let NFL
players play, if it's going to work out season, because
it's it'd be summer games, right, so that wouldn't be
in season.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But what if your NFL player and you go get
hurt doing this?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
There is a report that says NFL players are legit interested.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So NFL players can play.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
That would be the obviously a million dollar question.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So for sure, Johnny Manziel's gonna play like that would
be the kind of quarterback they would, for sure. Get No,
I think current NFL is what I'm asking. I know,
but I mean he doesn't play right now. No, I know,
but this is his chance to play. Like, Hey, I'm
not worried abut getting hurt. I'm not doing anything, Joe,
he's not good enough against the real quarterback five more years,
that's true.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Oh yeah, allow current and former players.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So but current players can play fire.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, hey former two, but we're gonna okay, Eddie Joe Montana,
Lynn Dawson.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Collinsworth, Joe Montana. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
So then let's do this. Let's act like it's happening tomorrow,
not five years. Who would you put on the team
quarterback wise, say on the kind of three so we
don't steal them.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Do you have yours quarterback? First? Ready?
Speaker 7 (02:56):
One?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Two? Three? Jackson?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Okay, good, same, probably same kind of player. Why Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I mean he's just more reliable to me than Lamar Jackson,
who knows what you're gonna get with Lamar right now.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
To me with Lamar, since it's flag and it's all speed,
I think, to me, I want a Lamar Jackson type.
But Mahomes works in that spot too, because he's extremely versatile, agile, agile, quick.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I don't know if he's I don't know if he's fast,
but he's quick inaccurate. Yeah, so I like both of
those picks, but I think I take Lamar. If you're
just asking me, okay, let's do a receiver. Let's just
do one receiver for now?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Ready? One, two, three?
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Tyree Lamb.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, why Ceede Lamb? I mean he's awesome cowboy.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Cede Lamb over all these other receivers.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I do like Tyreek. Obviously he's fast, it'd be amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But anything near Ceedee Lamb, he's going to catch it, Okay,
Like if it's in his vicinity, he's going to catch it,
and he's.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I don't feel like Ceedee Lamb has great hands. What
I feel like he has pretty good hands, But isn't
he prone to drops occasionally?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Like bad ugly drops? Show me that?
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Yeah? He does.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Sometimes I feel like he doesn't want to catch the ball,
like sometimes I feel like he hits him in the chest,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What Mike doesn't like about him is that he laughs
when he misses a catch, like it's just him laughing
at himself.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Why is he missing a catch? Shouldn't be missing the
catch and trying to laugh it off miss the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I feel, maybe wrongly, that Ceede Lamb is a great
receiver but doesn't have the greatest hands, which is like,
it's pretty fast, has pretty good hands, like does everything
in the top three or four, but really isn't number
one at anything, and you're forgetting the yards after catch.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But even strong Sea Lamb's strong.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah, he's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So that's fine. I'm not hating on you for Ceedee Lamb.
Thank you. Well, you guys are.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Hating on me a little.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
When you said he has great hands, I just question
does he really? Because I felt, maybe unfairly that he
doesn't have great hands traditionally for a receiver, because I've
just seen him drop some balls.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Remember Das got on him early in his career a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Dea is also known at times for dropping balls.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
True, but yes, and that was last year, but it's
five years from now, six years ago, so we've.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Got time to get your hands.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
With Tyreek.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think the answer is he's fast, possibly the fastest
guy in the NFL. You just want speed out there
playing flag football. You don't need a lot of big,
strong linemen obviously, So I just go Tyreek because that's
the easy answer.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You want to do a second one? Yeah, but I
mean so I'm not gonna take Tyreek.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I'm not gonna take Ceede Lamb, so we have
to take a different receiver, got it?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
One?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Two, three, Archie Jefferson. It was going to be those two.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You don't like you though, though, And both of them
are awesome, and both of them can argue as the
best wide receiver in the NFL. Yes, with Tyreek, but
not clam and Ceedee Lamb on both sides.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Give me the gold. That would be fun.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
What if you had to do athletes that weren't football
players to put on the team as your quarterback and
two wide receivers. So it can be any athlete, but
they have to go play quarterback or wide receiver for
the team.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Interesting, God, that's tough. I don't even know who who?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, I would go like like a Dame Yeah, like
like Dame Lillard, Joe Moran or yeah or yeah, or
even like Steph who's obviously is a great athlete, but
it's really smart, like to play quarterback because you know
he's gonna memorize the entire playbook. And I take Steph
(06:21):
as my quarterback. I'm gonna take Steph as my quarterback.
And the two wide receivers. Who's your quarterback? By the way, Bolt,
why did you put him wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I was gonna put him receive quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He's not American though, Okay, I forget forget that. No Bolt, who.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Was throwing dimes the other day?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Any athlete in another sport that went viral because you
could do like Mike Trout. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is it Bryce Harper? Like those guys? Is like quarterback
Brice Harper's he's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Hey, let's shake it up. Hope Solo? No, No, I Hope Solo.
What's your name? The girl?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Soccer team? You're just are you doing this because you
the pressed? It would be awesome on that what's her name?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Morgan? Morgan? You don't take the stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
This is an absolutely serious question that's life or death,
and we should be traded.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Alex Morgan hell of an athlete. You just think she's hot. Yeah,
it'd be awesome. Dude, are they having men and women?
Flight football? Are just men?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And then wide receivers like who would be fast?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, so who's like a fast Olympian? Why are you
asking me questions?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know, like a hundred meters current Olympian? Like I
don't know, I don't know, but I don't It didn't
have to be a sprinter.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You could pick somebody like I think John Morant will
be awesome for that because he is lightning quick and.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
He could jump up and grab a ball.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh yeah, the heights Okay? Oh man, he's not American.
I was gonna say, I want.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
To see yo quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Women Luca and he's got the most non American American team.
He's got beyond Well you think about it, though, then
we're America. We don't have all the great athletes, Like
what if what if?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think we do have the great app the reason
we don't win. What if Greece takes Yannis and he's
their starting receiver, that's great, but we have other versions.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, look at Katie Older, but I mean you
can find other guys, and obviously he's not as ripped
up as Giannis.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But it's just a population thing.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
The more people, the more people, and the bigger your
country is, the more people you have, the more the
poll of athletes.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You get to pull from. So in Greece is not large.
That's why it's so weird that Yiannis is so good
because it's from a small country in Greece. Yes, three two, right,
I know, And they all get to play on the
bucks basically, and yeah, take up bench spots.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
That's a fun question though.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
That'll be fun and it'll be cool I think it'll
be cooler and more more fun if they If nflers
don't play, we have to find other athletes.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I agree to fill it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Hey, well, you think they'll be cheating like double knot
on the flags, you know, because that's what our kids do.
My kids, like their lead gets. They get caught cheating
all the time, like tying the flag in yes, yes,
and they put three kids like dragging them.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Putting weights at the front of a sled or something
in the in the winter Olympics, right, same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
All sorts of cheating. Yeah, they'll find a way if
it can be done.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Russia will cheat using chemicals and America will cheat by strategy.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes, all right, next question, all right, some.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Real football here at a very quiet six and zero
in the season. Do you think Penn State will get
the recognition they deserve if they beat Ohio State this weekend?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
If they beat Ohio State, they absolutely will. They get
it a little now, just because they've won six games.
But the only ranked team they've beat is Iowa, but
they beat them bad. But it's like, if you don't
play anybody, it's hard to get anybody to care about you.
Michigan hasn't played anybody, but Michigan started off last year.
Obviously they played really well and as deep as they got,
(09:50):
and then you're already that high, so we just follow
you and we trust that you're going to be really good.
But still even then, people are like Michigan tou anybody either.
So they're all got to play each other. They all
get to eat each other up now finally, yeah, and
I hope they do. I like it when everybody cannibalizes everybody,
even in the SEC. I think it's fine because I
just love people being really passionate about something.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
There's not a real answer to look for sure. Alabama
should get in. Yeah, no way, man, And everybody's right
and everybody's wrong.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I love it so. Yes, if Penn State beats Ohio State,
but that'd be a disaster for that conference because Pen
State will get beats.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Ohio State may not get beat again until they play
in Michigan. They may even beat Michigan. I don't think
they will, but they could so. I Penn State wins,
but I don't think they will. Penn States also played
like you Mass, but they're real bad.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, I saw the bottom twenty five today football exactly
like U Mass and Connecticut are both usually traditionally really bad.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Everyone's walking. Connecticut will have a pretty good team, yeah,
and that's a big story.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And then they played Delaware. Oh, hell of a team. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Are they Division one?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Are they playing at the shit?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They're in Ohio State right, Yes, which is why if
they beat them, especially there, that's a big deal for them.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
All right.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Next question NFL here which wrote underdog do you think
has a better chance to cover on Sunday? The Lions
plus three at the Ravens or Chargers plus five and
a half at Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I have said since the beginning, and I know I'm wrong.
I know I'm wrong. I'm gonna say it again. You
never say you're wrong, but I've said it about this
every time. I know I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I know I'm not seeing what the experts are seeing.
Couldn't be any more wrong. I'd never been a big
believer in Herbert, just because everybody tells me how good
he is, how awesome he is. He's never that he's fine,
or he's injured, or he misthrows to win the game
against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You did love him, though, No, a couple of years ago. No,
I never loved him. I think him now. I never understood.
But then I said, I guess I just have to understand.
He's really good. Dude, he's big, huh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't argue that he's not good. I argue that
I don't get I don't I don't get it. You
just don't see I'm missing something because I see why
he's supposed to be good. I hear everybody that knows
way more than me telling me he's good, So then
I believe him. It's like one to my doctor. He
knows way more about this rash than I do, so
I just.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Only studies rashes.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yes, So then what about when people say it's a coaching.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
He's had some coaching shifts. He's got a defensive coach
right now. The coordinator situation, I thought it was going
to be different this year. They got the Cowboys coordinator.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, the kid telling more h Boys. He say, quarterback, yep, lefty.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know what's I think the coach is a bigger
deal than we think, Like, like even Jalen hurts. There
are some quarterbacks that really just like I want to
do what I'm going to do, like I love you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
If you have the equity to do that, you can
do it with Some don't get they'll get pulled right.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And I think that that's the deal with with Herbert,
Like he's not making decisions for himself. He's just doing
what they're telling him to do. I think Dak's the
same way. But he's missing throws too though. That's the
thing he missed right. He could have won that game,
and he's still hurt. I think he's always been always
doesn't move like he's completely healthy.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I know he's good. I just have always said, I'm
not seeing it. I don't know why everybody gives them
put him the top three to four quarterbacks every year.
He hasn't shown me that he's that yet. But who
cares about me? I don't I care about you, man,
I don't even really care about you. Yeah, dude, it's
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We're here for you man.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That being said, I don't think it's the Chargers covering
plus five and a half at Kansas City. I think
the Lions of plus three can actually go to Baltimore
and win. Love that just because the Ravens are hot
and cold. They're hot in.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The cold, yes, and they no, they drop a lot
of balls, then they score U toutdown. I didn't rhyme,
but I think Baltimore can be anybody. But I think
Baltimore can lose to anyone.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Man, they shoot themselves in the foot all the time.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And I think the Lions can actually win that game.
So I want to take the Lions. I think they
have a better shot of covering of the two teams
all right, Next.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Up last one at five on one and facing off
on Sunday. Who do you think has a better chance
of making the Super Bowl at the end of this season,
the Dolphins or the Eagles, this.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Game is gonna be awesome. So good.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Even if it's not awesome, it's awesome to watch them play.
So you can kind of learn about their identity a
little more. You can see who's gonna choke.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You can see I don't I love when the big
matchups happened and you got two quarterbacks, which hurts. Not
having the best season, especially in Jalen hurts. I mean,
although he hasn't played for a long time. But I mean,
let's think've got a lot of interceptions this year, way
more than he had. I think he has as much
many now as he did all of last year. So man,
(14:34):
the Eagles just have done it before getting to the
Super Bowl, and not even the squad just traditionally. I
can I can see the wing in the Super Bowl. Yeah,
so that makes it easier for me to pick them.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Kelsey's still there, Like They've got people that have been there,
so I like it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well still there yet last year, well yeah, I know
a lot of them. He was supposed to retire last year. Yeah,
But I mean they have a lot of people. Are
the coach. I mean, they have a lot of people
because it was just year. I was like, great pointed
and I was like, wait, that was last year.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I think I'm gonna have to go with the Eagles,
just because I feel like that culture has experienced it
a bit and won't think it's too big for them.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The Dolphins may not either, but I don't know. I mean,
when was the last time the Dolphins were in the playoffs?
Nineteen seventy two of the year they know.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I don't know it's been after that, that long ago.
I thought you met super Bowl? Well, super Bowl has
been a long, long long time. But I mean that's
Dan Marino days.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think it's close. I love both the teams. I'm
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I think the Eagles. But they could actually play each other,
couldn't they?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, so if that won't, that won't happens. Too much Green,
they will let it happen.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The NFL cit in room going all right, what are
the color schemes? Oh, we gotta make sure there's nothing.
Dolphins aren't green, guys. Great, I'm color blind as f
so you could be right green.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
No, they don't. Dolphins are baby blue and orange bangles. Oh,
here we go, Yeah, here we go?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But what what about like the dolphins? Though in there
are the dolphins not green?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
The logo is green?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Is it dolphin not green?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Green?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh my god, eddie baby blue, it's green. I'm the
color blind one, and I think I only know because
people have told me that's turquoise, you idiots.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But oh, the turquoise would be a combination of green
and blue. Okay, Oh so then we're both right, ding ding.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's listed as aqua orange, white, and marine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Blue boo, marine blue being fourth, probably the least prominent color.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What color is aqua?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Green? Blue? Like a green blue?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Blue? Green? Yeah? So I guess what I mean. It's
it's like the gatorade, is it? It looks more green?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Though.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I bought a gatorade yesterday and the guy's like, do
you want a yellow or red? I'm like, what's a
yellow one?
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yellow?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Of course they have yellow one. I always thought that's green.
I thought it was yellow.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
It's yellow.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's just a debate, man, It's a thing that you know,
everyone does like as they know the actual color of
the flavors yellow?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Right, Yeah, what's the flavor of a yellow gator er? Lime?
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Lime?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Which is which is green. If it's lime, then you
may have a great point. No, it's not lemon, like gosh, man,
if I'm right, that's that's three argument.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Is lemon lime?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh my god, turquoise, We're both right. Basically it's turkoise
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Hey, hey, back in the Dolphins though, like they are.
They're missing a chain or however you pronounce a chan
like yeah, like, so they're not full strength right now.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Waddle got injured last game.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Nobody's full strength though, No I know, but I'm talking
about not playing. So if you go into the Eagles
game with injuries or whatever, I mean, the Eagles may
look like they could be the team to go to
the super Bowl. But I think the Dolphins, like once
they're healthy in four weeks, three weeks or whatever, full strength,
like they're gonna be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The Eagles lost to the Browns.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, Jets, too much green, I swear to God's I
just green?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now that's green? Oh my god, I'm going who the
Eagles lose to. They lost to the They also.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Loss of the Jets, the Browns, Niners, loss of the Browns.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh my god, all these games are getting mixed up
in my head. I know, man, that's football, football now,
I know, I knew they lost. Anyway, I go with
the Eagles. You, yeah, I'll go. I'll go with the
Miami for that reason. Who's favorite Sancisco? Yeh yeah? All right,
thank you. That's the tittle Tittle.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
He didn't say that because it wasn't a good shot
when he was there.
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Speaker 2 (19:15):
But I like it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Thank you, Eddie, go man, it's a tough one. Give
me the one game for our parlay. This is a
tough one, but I'm going to go unc North Carolina.
They're playing Virginia and I believe they are minus twenty
three and a half.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh, you're going with that line. I'm going to go
with a big line on that, Okay, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Speaking of big lines here. Michigan been blowing everybody out
this year, and I think they do it again on
the road at Michigan State minus twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Rivalry twenty four.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Michigan State is a very bad Oh, it's a bad one.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Rivalry twenty four rivalry. That's a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I'm going Ole Miss money line over Auburn. No, no guts,
it's not a twenty point game though it's less than
a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, you're probably gonna win it, but I'm just
making funny.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
I'm just trying to win, man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, then give me North Carolina money line. Well it's
twenty three and a half. That'll can someone stick that
in the app for ten bucks and let me know
what that is? Ole Miss money line over Auburn Michigan
minus twenty four at Michigan State and you NC minus
twenty three and a.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Half versus, that'll be good money miles.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
If you put one hundred, it's probably if I'm betting,
I'm gonna let me guess what it goes off that,
because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I would say you're looking at two probably won ten
bets and then that one minus. If you put it
in one hundred I'm gonna say six hundred and eighty bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'll read this book while you do that. If you
want to take twenty five busles, probably a check out
Drafting sports book. New usuers used to go to Bobby
Sports when you download the app twenty one enough in
most eligible states, but age varies by jurisdiction, eligibility and
a posit restrictions apply. Gambling problem called one huture gambler
in New York called eight seven seven eight hope and wire.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Text hope and why stick it in yet? I mean,
did you now yet?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I had to log in, We had to get through it.
You got to find here we go. I have to
log in and then.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, no, you don't, You're right, don't that's true? And
by the way, I'll read you my stats in case
you missed on the last one because if I'm betting
and telling you, I'm literally betting too. I'm betting this
so far on the year season review football season. Anyway,
I've made one hundred and ninety eight bets. I've wagered
twenty one, three hundred and ninety three dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's baller, dude, that's baller. Were you not here when
I did this the other day? No, my winnings are
one thousand ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Okay, it went up.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, yeah, I had a pretty good weekend last weekend,
so I'm plus one thousand ninety nine dollars. I also
want to say this, I deleted twenty the Bobby and
Whistlers from the DraftKings.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, that was weird. I had a group of a
couple hundred people.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I deleted them because I can't getting the emails going.
There's a new person in the group and I couldn't
turn it off. I turned every setting. Really, it kept
filling on my mailbox and I was a Eddie, can
you find this saying we look forever? I couldn't find
it since I was running the group, and gave me
all the eat quit. Probably start another one if I
can figured it out. But right now I got to
figure out how to not get the email. Probably figure
that out, so I'll start a new one. Maybe it
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washes that taste of all the miss parlays off. Anyway,
for one hundred bucks when he got ten one hundred,
you just add another zero to that.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
That's true. Five oh one.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Okay, close you bus one hundred feet, I'll do that.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
One hundred bucks, one five hundred. Put put that on
pay out as five hundred.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'll put a hundred on it. Wow, that's crazy all
my parties to put one hundred on I know, I know, dude.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
I was in bed with my wife twenty one grand
so far.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I was in bed with my wife and we're like
just sitting there, and I was like, do you know
how much Bobby spends on.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
A week?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I just came up. I think, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I think I was placing a bet and she was
like how much?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I told her. She was like, oh like why wait,
how I don't spend twenty grand a week?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
No, no, no, no, even the number I told her, what
number is?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeller?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
What three grand?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, I mean I say that here, that's what I say. Yeah, yeah,
this last week. But you also have to understand let
me find them.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I know, dude, you're you got more money than I do.
That was not what I was going to say, I get.
That was not what I was going to say at
all this last weekend. Oh what did you discover this
last weekend? It was a five grand weekend?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Ooh yeah, I'll tell you that one. I saying because
I thought you had sixteen thousand before that. It was
close to like sixteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, it's a five grand weekend because I bet thirty
four hundred on NCAA football and fifteen hundred on NFL.
My point is, if I start firing off shots and
they're all missing, I don't keep betting. Well, yeah, because
you're at four thousand. No, I would stop too. Do
you think that I have? I go, okay, I'm gonna
bebout four thousand dollars all at once.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
No no, no, no, no, that would be dune, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And if I miss five or six big bets, I'm out.
I'm never gonna lose. I might if I'm just five
or six big What do you mean, like how big bets?
My unit is one hundred bucks. Let's say I do it.
That's that's your one dollar for me.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Your your unit's a dollar.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yes, So I would say if I lose like a
five unit bet, I'm like, oh, I can't. I'm not
gonna do another one of those, lose another one, I'm quitting.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
For the weekend.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Because I can easily pull the trigger to bet, easily
pull the trigger to stop. I don't have a problem,
but I do understand how if you're not careful sure
and you're not setting rule. My rules are, if I
lose two big bets, I'm done. So I'm never gonna lose.
I'm never gonna lose that. I say that, I don't.
I don't want to actually lose it. Now, there's no
such thing as never. But I wouldn't have a five
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thousand a weekend if I wasn't doing pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I'll tell her that tonight. It's not
gonna work. What's not gonna work?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Let it?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Haven't telling her that so she lets you bet more.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well, it's really yeah, it was really for me to
be like, how cool, Like I I just spend fifty
isn't that cool? Like that's what I spent. I've moved
up to fifty. By the way, a week. Yeah, no,
a month, a month, a month. I haven't told her
that yet. I think I thought you only got to
fifty because she lets you no, I was at four. Yeah,
I knew that I was at forty a month. But
I think we're going so strong with all of these
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parlays and stuff. We're losing. We're losing, I know. But
that's why I needed to up it a little bit. No,
that's the opposite way you should do. That's what I
just said, just that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, I should say.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Scale back.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Is everybody's promise bet that same bet which one get
picked for their thing?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Min can't No, No, mine's different.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, mine can't be because mine's not a line bet
because I took the money line true. So we'll come
back to our promise bet. How much is in the
broken promises?
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Jar?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, right here, seventy, but it's gonna be ninety. I
gotta throw ten in which I have read.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah night, we'll say ninety bucks, ninety bucks in their
broken promises, Okay, and then we'll do our promises coming
up in a second.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
A couple of things.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Number one, Caleb Williams wants partial ownership of whatever NFL
team drafts him. I'd also like a two foot penis
good luck?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
D Why would you want two foot? Yeah? Yeah, that's good,
just gonna be cool. Don't want to two inches? I'm like, what, no, no,
to hey, has anyone ever done that?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Aaron Rodgers tried with the Jets and they wouldn't let
him do it. It's such a precedent. There's no way.
I mean Aaron Rodgers, I understand. Yeah, but even then
they said no.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I mean even if Messi was like I like to
play in the NFL and on part of a team,
I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Would let MESSI would have been a good receiver.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
No, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But I can't tell how good of athlete soccer players
are because they're all run around other great athletes. It's
like sprinters when they all sprinting gets each other.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
How fast are they really? Like Kevin run beside him?
They all really know how fast they.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Let's set it up.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So, yeah, there is no I think there's zero percent chance.
There's no such thing as zero present chance. I think
there's point one percent chance they let Kayleb Williams have
any part of.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
A team, right, no shot.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I mean when Tom Brady was rumored to be buying
part of the Dolphins, which now is part of the.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Vegas.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah, Raiders and a Vegas.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And they just want a championships. They got another title.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Why is he owning Vegas because.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They wanted him? Why do I own part of a
pickleball professional pickball team? Because they reach down there? Do
I know part of we'd like you to be part
part owner?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, but you're part Texan, that's true. It's as I
would say, Texan. I'm Austinite.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, yeah, Texas, mm hmm, don't you're a Cowboys fan? No, nope,
And listen, everybody in Texas.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I love you. I lived there for a long time.
That's where we met. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I am part Austinite for sure, me Mike, you met Michael,
but not Texan.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I'm on our Kansas for sure, a bit of Austinite.
And you know what a little Tennessee in there? Yeah, yeah,
for sure. So, but there's no chance Kalla Williams is
part of a team, right. No, it would have to
be something so ground a player so groundbreaking that would
make them so much money for them to even consider it,
because then everybody will want it.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, and there's no way the NFL owners, Goodell, whoever
want anybody else in on that pie at any portion.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well without being cleared at least because they're ownership groups.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
There are like the Steelers, right, Like there's a group
of people that own the Steelers. I mean even the Packers,
like people own states in them.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
There's a may there's a majority owner. But even Dan Snyder,
as he owned the Commanders, he was the majority owner,
but he sold the team. Now there's an owner but there.
That's why Magic Johnson is there because he's part owner there.
I won't say too much, but there was a professional
in one of the big three sports teams asking me
if I want to be a part owner of a team.
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I can't say much else about it because I can't
jeopardize it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But it's a very minority thing. But it's really cool.
I was thinking maybe Jerry would let you in.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
But now on the Cowboys, now now he's a full owner. Yeah,
oh yeah, they're not letting anyone else in.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Anthony Richardson to have season ending shoulder surgery, which sucks
because he was fun to watch. We mentioned on the
last episode of this that I think they can probably
win more games now. But he's just not going to
develop because anyuarterback with hair come out of their helmet,
he can gun sling.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
A little bit. Oh, Trevor Lawrence, Well that's a little bit.
Who's their quarterback? Colts? We'll play We'll let's play back.
Name the backup?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Menshew Gardner, Minshew Minshew Minshew Minshew Gardner, Minshew does any
show along here?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And a mustache exactly. So if you got hair come
at your helmet, you can win a game. You may
lose eight, but you can still win one.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay, okay, I think other quarterbacks have hair coming out
of helmet. Let's see Trevor Lawrence. Wow, that's it. You
can win games. How about the Notre Dame. Oh wait
wait wait.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, he's got a little bit of hair
coming out of us. Got a little bit. So we
went a little bit of a game.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
You see how hertman just shaved his beard.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I hate that.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
It's a hard stash.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
He was so hot and then that happened. Sorry what
I thought I thought that? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I said that Tom Brady thinks the NFL is becoming
more like flag football. My favorite thing about this story
is that now that he's out of the league, he's like, you're.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Allus awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Because he was the first one to scream and cry
as soon as anybody hit him.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Uh huh, hilarious. Here's a clip.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
This is Tom Brady talking about NFL officiating on the
Let's Go podcast with Larry Fitzgerald and Jim Gray.
Speaker 9 (30:12):
All I know is the defender's got every right to
push back on DK, but he doesn't do it, and
they throw a flag. I'm like, I don't understand what
the flag is. This is football, you know, this is
in touch football. This is real football, and I think
the physicality which people really enjoy. I certainly enjoy it.
I love that physical element of the sport. I don't
think we should ever lose that. You know, there's so
many people that want it less and less physical. It's
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more like flag football, which is going to be in
the Olympics in twenty twenty eight, you know, which, maybe
football goes to flag football over a period of time.
I don't think fans will like that that much. Then
everyone should stop bitching about unnecessary roughness calls now.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Rough in the passer punk. I know, it's just a
weird thing coming from him.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
He used to get blown up.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh, and he'd always complain about.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
It, cry all the time years ago, even about times
when he wasn't getting blown up, he would cry.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Like I said, if you're quarterbacks out, it sucks for
your team. Nobody will likes to watch games as the
bad quarterback. But it's football. It's football. It's not touch
I hear you. In basketball supposed to be physical, but no.
We hated the nineties when everybody's fallt ballad crap a Detroit.
There were no there's no scoring. We love scoring with
the occasional defensive stop. Yeah, it's like baseball. We love
home runs every once in a while. We'll like to
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see a good complete game.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But you know what, though, if this is going to
be him on TV, I like it, Like I want
to see him be a little risque because I just
picture him.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He's not showing his pecker, is.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That not that means like a little lot of controversy
but me, yeah, a little controversial having an opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's what I was going for.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Not really like taking his shirt off, go ahead, But
you know, like I want him to have opinions. I
just kind of have the the idea that he was
just going to come in and just be like, oh,
you know, that's a good play right there, Jim, Like
you know, I want him to be you know, like
this voices opinion.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, him on his six million dollar yacht. No, it's
a video maybe yesterday morning. If him on the front.
It's only only six million dollars to him. They're like,
here he is on a six I thought he have
a forty million dollars year.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
He probably does.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
What's the difference. Oh is that a small that's his.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yeah, that's his dicky boast is weekday one. He has
a weekend one.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
What do they call it? Dicky boat?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Dingy vote?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, dingy vote a little dinghy, that's it. Dingy boat.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So those are the stories that I wanted to mention there.
Let's go to Tyson Hilton, the Western Kentucky head coach.
He previously coached at USC and Tennessee prior to getting
the head coach and gig at Western and November twenty eighteen.
You can follow coach Helton on Twitter at coach Underscore Hilton.
He was Sam Hunt's coach. We talked about that in
the interview.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah Donald, yeah, oh yeah and Sam Hunt.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Sorry, yes, Sam Hunt and Sam Donald. That's true of both,
right Sam Donald ware us see oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Here he is coach Tyson Helton coach.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Thanks for having us. You are a lot younger looking
in person.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I think on camera when you're just like intense, I
think intensity ages folks on TV.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
It does you know too, Like I think I have
a hat on and the gray hair and then they
get a little gray in the beard.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So when did it start to go great? Because I'm
we're about to say, mate, I'm just called your drunny
than you. But I'm getting it like through here a
little bit.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
No, mine was probably when I really know, it's probably
four or five years ago. Yeah, are you married? I
married four kids, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
So probably forced it earlier. Yeah, those four kids will
really bring his in one hair Eddie get hit like
nineteen Yeah, like.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
You, ball will do that to you, whether to go
for it on fourth and one or kick the field goals,
it'll it'll give you some gray hairs real fast.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I feel like the last three or four years and
it maybe analytics that have allowed this, but there's a
lot a lot more going forward on fourth, not just
fourth and one, but fourth and two and a half
or less. Do you feel like the last few years
you've seen a shift not only with teams around the country,
but but even within yourself.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Yeah, most definitely. I think, first of all, I like
the book because if it does work, you can blame
the book. You know, you say, hey, we spent all
this money on analytics, so you know that's why I
went for it on fourth and two, you know. But
I do see that that shift. I think it makes
people feel better where it's not a gut feeling, and
uh so that's why you're seeing it more and more.
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But it's going to continue to be that way. I mean,
it's going to continue to you're at the minus thirty
three and it's fourth and four and you're going for
it because the book tells you to. You're going to
see a lot more of that.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Do you feel like the book just wrong? Sometimes? Though
we were like that gun, there's more question.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
So I got a guy up in the box and
we're in the we're in our home opener, and I'm
at the minus twenty nine and he's coach fourth or
three or less. It's a go, I'm like, b yes, okay,
what's that? Yeah? So you know, sometimes I questioned the
book a little.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Bit being an offensive guy, or at least I assume
you're an offensive guy. You were the yeah, yeah, so
be an offensive guy. I guess the problem that I
have with some of these defenses when they're up against
an offense that moves pretty quickly or all the grab
into the hamstrings to slow the game down.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
Yeah, we're a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
For a second, I thought when Aaron Rodgers went down,
he was slowing the game down for a split second before.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
They would have just started though, I oh, I needed
a break already. But when he went down because he
was standing up and then he just falls and in
college especially right, what would you do to make that
better for folks like me who just want to watch
the game and not watch people fake injuries.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Well, if you want to solve the problem real quick,
what they need to do if a player goes down,
if the training staff has to enter the field, that
player has to stay off the field for the rest
of the series. So that would probably solve a lot
of that those issues, because what happens is you lose
a good player. He's not in there the rest of
the series, people think twice about, hey, do I want
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to fake the injuries all those kind of things. But
when you're a tempo team like us, you're going to
continue to see that. I mean, it's just part of
our game right now. And they try to tell you, hey,
you can be fined or you know, all these these
discipline things can happen, but nobody follows it. Nobody can't improve.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You're not hurt. Yeah, injured, you could, but you can't
be like, no, I swear to god, that's whatear to
go guy, Judge, I's feeling it.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
Well, some of them should be actors because they do
a good job faking it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Do you teach your guys how to there's a whole
class on that.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
We follow the rules, right, that's right, coach. Like in
the movie Rudy, the whole crowd, the whole stadium's channing
Rudy Rudy to get him in. In your experience, could
a fan base ever affect your decision on who to
put in or not?
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I would say yes. I could say yes if it
was the right situation at the right time. I think
if there's a player that the fans love and you
know they want to see him play, and you know it,
yeah I could. I could see myself doing that. First
of all, I love the movie Rudy, So I think
you know that that would be a classic example. Hey,
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get get the fans favorite in you know.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So who who are your favorite A couple of your
favorite guys that you've coached over the last five six years,
maybe not just in here, but like Tennessee, USC like
that as people you're just like man regardless of where
they go.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
I tell you what, because it's in your industry. When
I was at UAB, I coached Sam Hunt for a year,
so I had an opportunity to be around Sam. He
was one of my favorite guys. I love Sam. Probably
another good one, Sam Darnold USC. You know, we won
the Rose Bowl with Sam there. That was that was huge,
you know. And then you get here and I mean
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you got Brandon Dowdy who played in the NFL. You
got Mike White played in the NFL. Now you got
Bailey Zappy in the NFL. And then who you guys
will get to see later Austin Reid, who you know
is killing it right now. So there's been a lot
of good ones I've had opportunity to coach.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
What are those guys all have in common?
Speaker 8 (37:38):
Characteristically? They have a killer instinct they all have. They
all have that cutthroat mentality, that competitive mentality about them
when they could be the nicest guys on the field
but off the field, but when they walk on that field, man,
they're they're trying to get after it. I mean, they've
all kind of had kind of that linebacker mentality even
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though they play quarter back. They don't mind mixing it
up and in clutch time when you need it the most,
they usually come through for you.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Do you ever have to tell your guys, for example,
Josh Allen likes run through people.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Or Anthony richardson his first year this year in the NFL,
he's quite physical, even just through Like, Hey, I need
you to go down and not risk yourself as much.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Does that happen with you? Is that a weird conversation
to have, like hustle less?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Well, yes and no. Like Austin, our current quarterback, I
don't mind running him. He's a physical guy. You know,
he doesn't mind running the football. But there are times
where I'm like, hey, dude, you need to get down,
you know, when they scramble and they're in the middle
of the field, I get a little concerned, you know,
And so that's when I'm telling him usually and a
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lot of these guys are still sliding, and I think
you're giving yourself up even more for injury. And I
tell the guys, hey, go cut the inside leg of
the defender who's coming at you, you know, because like
I told you, these are aggressive guys that want to
run anyways, you're probably most perte to doing that. But yeah,
there are times when I'm sitting there going, dude, get
down for me.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Coach, How did the headsets work? Like who are you
talking to? Are there different channels? Like if I want
to talk to OC, this is one channel? Or are
you all talking to the same mass chaos?
Speaker 8 (39:14):
It is mass chaos. There's twenty people on the headset.
Everybody's talking at once. Somebody's dog cussing somebody else. I'm
trying to call a play, you know, the on line
coach is hollering at the offensive line. He doesn't have
his headset and channel that all the mask cho I
don't care where you go. I don't care where you go.
(39:35):
I wish you want to have total entertainment. Let what's
being said on the headset be broadcasted. It would make millions.
I mean, it's unbelievable what goes on on those heads.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
So do you have to say, hey, everybody, shut up,
I'm saying something right now.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Oh yeah, all the time.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Usually it's not that nice, like an override button, like
to overwrite everybody, like a god button to where your
feed even goes over the PA.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That would be an ultimate god button to do that
when you're talking to your coaches and you're on the
headset and you guys are communicating. I was watching a
thing where there are certain organizations who they have accused
of making sure the system don't.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Run as properly. Have you ever been somebody you have
to say?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Who say?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Where? Have you ever been somewhere where you're like, I
think they're kind of messing with our equipment.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Yeah, I've had several of that. I've had several of that.
Whether that's true or not, I don't know. They're supposed
to shut both systems down when that happens. But you know,
sometimes if you're out of major power five and there's
one hundred thousand people there, and you know, you're Western
Kentucky and they're supposed to shut it down and it
doesn't shut you know, like, hey, did you shut theirs down?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
No?
Speaker 8 (40:41):
They still got it. You know that that goes on
a little bit, but there's nothing you can do about it.
The good thing for us, we can control all signals
and communication right there from the sidelines. So it sucks
for the guys up in the box, but we still
have full control on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Can you guys go full hand signals if everything shuts down?
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, And whenever you guys are doing let's say you're
doing signals or you got two or three guys doing it.
When I played baseball, you know, there was an indicator
and then after the indicator was the sign. But they're
like multiple people doing signs. Are there just decoy sign
givers who are really doing nothing? But I don't know
dancing basically?
Speaker 8 (41:18):
There is Yeah, there's there's guys. There's fake headsets. There's
guys that have headsets on that look like there's a big.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Purple on with a McDonald's. I knew that wasn't really
I knew that he's taking an order for a burger.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
You got that going on? You got three or four signalers.
You got the big screens trying to block, you know,
from people in the box stealing signals. You know, our
signals are so sophisticated. We we don't have multiple signalers.
We just have we just have one guy doing it.
But we have probably five different signals for for every formation,
every route, every run. So there's a lot in multiple
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for one, oh just in case, oh yeah, and do
you switch them out each game?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Or we just called like all right, we're gonna go
through on level three at halftime, can you switch it
case you think? Very conscientious?
Speaker 8 (42:01):
So, and also to whatever the quarterback signals out there
to the skill players, if he wants to do something,
he's conscientious, So all right, I'm not giving that same
signal again. That signal's done with for the rest of
the night. So there's a lot that goes into that piece.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
A lot of these colleges have, you know, like Ohio
State has the stickers you know for accolades. Georgia has
like the big old chain. Do you guys have anything
like that here?
Speaker 8 (42:23):
No, there's so much to keep up with with all
that and all the stickers, and I like my helmet
clean like you look at that.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I like the clean helmet.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
I like a clean helmet. So we do things to
reward them after the game, and we have a big
board up on the wall and it has their picture
and it says hey, offensive MVP or Special Teams MVP.
They really like that. But I like a clean uniform.
So we don't do any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Being Conference USA, you know of the schools that aren't
Power five, Like this is the powerful conference that's not
Power five yet.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I mean everybody's moving around, who knows. But do you
feel like you guys are benefiting from the trans transfer
portal being here in like the prime spot, I mean
basically one half level below the Power five schools.
Speaker 8 (43:09):
Yeah, I definitely think so. When when the transfer portal
was coming about, we knew it was going to happen.
That's when I went and got Bailey Zappy, you know,
Bailey's Appy FCS Houston Baptist at the time, Now Houston Christian.
Nobody was really looking out there, you know, at the
lower levels like that. Now they don't care. They'll go
to Vision two, they'll go to SCS. But I think
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what we got ahead of the game there, and it
really put us on the map, kind of like the
transfer you school to go to. If you didn't go
to Power five, you were coming to Western Kentucky. We've
gotten some really, really good players, but you have to
stay ahead of the game in the transfer portal because
now it's flooded. Everybody's doing the same thing. So you
got to change some things up. You know, Austin Reid,
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you know nobody was going into the Division two market.
We go get Austin Redi's the number one path from
the country last year. Now you're seeing everybody. They don't
care anymore. They're going at all levels. So you got
to stay one step out of a game. You got
to keep mixing it up.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
How would you remedy the poaching problem where if you
have a star player, there are certain programs that are
calling trying to get those players to enter the portal.
Speaker 8 (44:17):
Well, I think I don't have an answer for that.
I think that the more the closer, if we're going
to have nil and transfer portal together, I think the
NFL model, the closest we can get to. An NFL
model would be great. I don't mind talking about this
at all. Needs to be a national database, says exactly
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what everybody's nil is, so there's no BS. Everybody knows
if you're going to transfer, there has to be full
disclosure of what is happening, what does that look like,
all those things prior to happening. You know, these are
all things that are hush us right now. Nobody wants
to talk about it, but it's all happening out there.
It's widespread. I think there's when there's more transparency, everybody's
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open and honest, and you have a more of an
NFL model, you'll start to have some situation where you
don't see poaching as much. You can sit down and
have real conversations. Because you look at Austin Reid last year.
Austin goes into transfer portal. He can go anywhere. I mean,
he can go anywhere, but because we had open, honest
conversations about who was looking at, what he was thinking,
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what the benefits for of staying at Western Kentucky, he
decides to stay. Right So, if you can get into
those conversations earlier in there's transparency with the data, I
think you'll have more people that won't leave you, or
it'll be cleaner process.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I've done probably twenty or twenty five and il deals
with players for different projects, and you're right, you can
do whatever you want. Basically nobody has to know anything.
And it's got to the point too where you just
hit up the player just like hey, what up.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
And so the fact that there are no rules and
it's the wild West, it's almost as if everything has
to go wrong before somebody wants to fix it. Because
nobody's going to fix something that's just kind of bad,
and especially when the big schools are benefiting from it.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
What has to go wrong in order for people to
go We need to make this rule change. Because I
agree with what you're.
Speaker 8 (46:13):
Saying, well, I think it's coming. Make no mistake, the
NC double A is coming. They are coming, and a
couple of teams are going to get pounded. And when
they get pounded, I'm talking about sanctioned and the whole deal.
It is coming. When that happens, everybody will throw up
their hands and say, all right, we need reform. We
need to get this thing cleaned up. Everybody right now
thinks it's a wild wild West. Through the history of time,
(46:35):
the NC double A is like the irs, you are
going to pay your taxes. They are eventually coming. So
if you're not doing it the right way and you're
you're just blatant out there, you are going to get caught.
So that's what's going to eventually happen.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
NCAA comeback player of the Year. Everybody kind of counts
them out right now, they're going to show up again
and get the bigger war. Coach, when you're recruiting, what
where is the punter and the kicker come in? Are
they like, oh, shoot, we forgot to get a punter.
Speaker 8 (47:03):
And a kicker, or like, no, I'm a huge special
team I'm so that's that's funny. I am a huge
special teams guy. So part of my coaching career I
was a special teams coordinator. I got to coach Stephen Goskowski,
who was the kicker for New England Patriots, great kicker.
When I got to coach him, I realized how important
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a great kicker is. So all my guys are on scholarship.
Long snapper, punter, kicker. They're all worth the scholarship because
you look at those sidelines for the game win field goal,
people are praying, they're on their knees or biting towels,
or they're in a huddle. You know they're circled up.
It's an important position, so we scholarship them all.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
As a special teams coordinator, how many ways are there
to go down, kick the ball and tackle, because I
you know, I've seen a lot of blown coverage. I
mean games, easy, right, right, you kick them all, you
stay in your lane, you go down, you tackle Like,
what am I missing? How can that not go right
over and over again for the same team.
Speaker 8 (48:02):
Well, it is total chaos. We'll start with that. If
the kicks not long enough, it's not deep enough. If
the returner we always say, hey, take the pitch you
can hit. You're a baseball player. When you get that
right pitch man, at the perfect timing, you're going to
crank it out of the park.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Right.
Speaker 8 (48:18):
Well, that's when that usually happens. Kicker doesn't get it
high enough. A returner got a pitch he can hit.
Now he gets vision, he's he runs four three four four,
he's running right at you full speed. They got the blocks.
That's right, That's why you see all that. That's why too,
it's great to have a kicker on kickoff that gets
great touchbacks, you know, so you never have to have
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that a punter that has great handtime, so you're always
getting the fair catch signal. Or if you don't have
that guy rugby punt, you got to move him around.
We call him say, we say, hey, hit dirty balls.
You know those ugly dirty balls that nobody wants to field.
So those are the things you got to do. But
that's the beauty of our game. You're gonna have that.
I mean, you look at the other night in the
Jets game. Yeah, that's how they won the game. I mean,
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that's the National Football League best of the best, and
they go win the game on a on a punt return.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
If I wasn't specialty to the corner, that never happened
in your lane. Don't get out of your lane, make
the tackle.
Speaker 8 (49:11):
I tell you what you need to do while you're
here is you need to catch punch from the from
the drug machine and put a helmet on and put
on shoulder pads. And it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Maybe for you coach.
Speaker 8 (49:24):
It's because the ball moves. Yeah, the ball moves and
all that. But you'll get a better understanding too of like, hey,
I got a pitch I can hit, I can I
can catch this one and take this one to the house.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
I only returned to punt once playing high school football,
and I was playing. Listen, I don't like to get
a hit, coach, I'm be honest with you. I don't
like to play defense.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
I was.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I was an h back, slot receiver. Didn't like to
play defense back and catch, and so they would.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Put me on any sort of you know, prevent nickel,
any of that. I've played defensive back. And so all
of a sudden we realized they we're gonna punt instead
of go for it. And my head coach like, get
back and catch the punt.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
And I'm like, oh god, oh no, no, no. So
I'm backing up. I'm backing up and snap kicking. The
ball is up in the air, and in my life
it's slow motion.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I make the mistake of looking down to see everybody
running at me. Oh god, And so I run from
the ball.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
I think I just got out of the way.
Speaker 8 (50:19):
We were smart. I just let it hit.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (50:21):
Smart.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I didn't try to field it.
Speaker 8 (50:22):
And the number one job of the returners give the
ball back to the offense. So I tell my guys
all the time, if you if you don't like how
it's looking, get the heck away. Make a poison call,
point at it, get everybody away.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Peter and ran it's poisoned. Now Peter is Peter bad?
Speaker 8 (50:37):
Now now you can say they say Peter still too,
But a lot of teams say poison.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
We go Peter, And I yelled Peter on myself, Peter,
just I dodn't want, I don't want. Another thing I
did was the coin toss.
Speaker 7 (50:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
I'm pretty smart guy, generally, I think. And so I
go in and I was captain my senior year, and
we go and it's all right, let's do the coin toss. Well,
they flipped a coin, and I remember my coach.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Being like, all right, we're gonna we want to play defense.
We want to play defense. Uh huh, we're gonna stop them.
We want to play defense. So we go, they flipped
the coin, boom, and uh they win the coin toss
and they defer, and I go, okay, we're playing defense. Now.
What happened is we played defense to start the game
and a half time. And I didn't know that was possible.
Speaker 8 (51:28):
Well, I've seen some mess ups too. I've I've had
a deal we were playing in a in a might
have all been a hurricane, and I said, which way
I wanted to kick? I mean, it's pretty obvious which
way you want to kick. And the poor kids said,
we want to kick that way, right into the middle
of the damn hurricane. So I've been a part of
those things too.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
I remember my coach.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Got by the face mask and he said, you're one
of the smartest people I've ever coached, but that's the
dumbest blanket thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
In front of everybody. It was like silent, and I.
Speaker 8 (51:57):
Was like, you know, nowadays the rest so they at
least at the major levels, they don't let you screw
it up usually that you know. They talked to me,
the coach, what do you think, And I'll say, hey,
I want to defer. I don't know which way I'm
kicking yet, but I want to defer. And if they
screw it up, He'll go, oh, hold it, son, and
they'll look they did do that.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
What was Sam Hunt like as a player?
Speaker 8 (52:18):
Fantastic player, fantastic man. You know, had a little bit
you went to camp, you know, I can't remember if
it was Cleveland or somebody, but maybe Kansas City. Yeah,
just a really good college football player, you know, team
captain type guy. Even even back then, you knew he
was going to be a big time singer. I mean
he'd stand up in front of the team and sing
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and all those stuff. But just that guy, the great
American quarterback, you know, just the guy you wanted to
be around all the time. Loved them to death, was
a great player to coach, you know, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Was he a leader?
Speaker 8 (52:51):
Great leader? Great leader in which every quarterback has to be.
Right now, he was a jokester too.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
So it's not the same. I know, and I know
Sam pretty good. He's not much of a jokester any.
Speaker 10 (53:01):
No, he was.
Speaker 8 (53:03):
He was a jokester. I mean he loved the prank guy.
So our strength coach was kind of this really big,
rough guy and you know he that's all you ever
thought about was weightlifting and all this stuff. And well
Sam called him one time and did a voice and
was basically acting like another strength coach from another school
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and asking him questions. And he was asking the most
of serbs, stuff like you know, hey do you wear
a jockstrap when you lift? And hey do you you
know all this kind of stuff, and I mean, he
had him going for like fifteen minutes straight. You know,
that's the Sam I remember. You know he was quiet,
very nice guy, loved to be around them, but he
had that he had that prankster and.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's funny, right, Final three questions.
Speaker 7 (53:47):
Yeah, coach, you have four kids. You mentioned do you
want to play football?
Speaker 8 (53:53):
I mean what they can do whatever they want to do.
All all of my kids. My oldest is academic, but
she's a sophore or University of Oregon. She's my she's
my academic person. It's not an athlete. The other three,
my middle daughter and my twin boys, they're all athletes.
They play whatever sports, football, across whatever's going on in season.
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I've always told them this, I said, you can do
whatever you want to do, but if you sign up
for a sport, or you sign up for a team,
you're giving it your whole heart. You're you're playing the
whole season and that and that's the way it's always been.
A lot of coaches are that way, though they don't
push their kids to the sport. I guess because we
do it for a living and it's just we're around
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it so much, and you know, so I let them
do what they want. To do, but yeah, they like
to be around it.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
What's your schedule like during football season midweek?
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Is it all football all the time or does your
wife say you don't call your coach obviously unless she does,
and that's cool. She's like coach because I travel a
lot and tour and my wife's like, hey, sometimes we
have to focus and remember we're family. Yeah, do you
have to set aside time or is that after football season?
Speaker 8 (55:03):
No? Well, here's the beauty of my job here. One.
When you're the boss and you're the head coach, you
get to do that. I have more luxuries of spending
time with the family. Earlier in my career and when
I was at the big time places the us c's
and the University of Tennessee's, I slept on my couch
three four nights a week. I mean, I literally it
was like a frat house. You just your feet hit
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the floor at five am and you went to bed
at three am. So it was all ball all the time. Here,
why I'm so blessed. It's still all ball all the time.
But I eat lunch with my wife every single day,
you know, so whether it's you know, twelve o'clock lunch,
you know, we we'll hook up, go to somewhere eat
forty five minutes. And this is a great town, Bawling Green,
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so you can get anywhere in fifteen minutes, so that
little bit of time is awesome. My kids come up here,
like my daughter will work out in the weight room,
my boys will work out, so I'd get a lot
of family time in.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
What are you most proud of so far of your
job here at Western Kentucky.
Speaker 8 (56:04):
The biggest thing for me is what we've been able
to accomplish. I've always from a football standpoint, I've always said,
you want to be a part of the national conversation.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
What do you know for?
Speaker 8 (56:15):
What is your brand known for? Well, we're known for
you know, high powered offenses, great quarterbacks, you know, exciting
games to watch, you know, big wins, all those kind
of things. But probably from the personal side of it,
for me, it's when I'm walking around in this town
or our players are walking around in this town. We
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represent the best of Bowling Green, Kentucky. You know, everybody
can look us in the eye and say, hey, they
represent us. You know, they're great people, honorable people, they
do it the right way. So I get a win
win in that area.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Coach, we appreciate you having us here. The facilities are awesome.
We've been to a lot of places.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
And there are some big time programs that have garbage facilities.
It's crazy. I'm not gonna say it on the microphone.
I'm gonna say who it is, but we're just there
are some that are fantastic and there are some where
you go, I thought this was a major program.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
This is really nice.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, you get so.
Speaker 8 (57:15):
I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
I hope you're real proud of of kind of what
you've built here. But yeah, we appreciate the hospitality. You
get the best mascot in sports behind the razor, the
mascot in sports.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
You ever have a color that you feel weird? Don't
say what color, which one, but you coach played for
places you have a color you feel weird.
Speaker 8 (57:30):
In very much?
Speaker 3 (57:32):
So, yeah, very much, because that would be the weird
thing about being a coach is always have to wear
that colors.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Well, it's like when Aaron Rodgers was in the light
green that was just weird when he was a packer
and that was a different green and yellow. But some
colors just look weird.
Speaker 8 (57:45):
I've been and I've been in some some bold colors too.
Now I've been in a lot of bold colors, you
know of a different program. So yeah, I've never had
that question. But that's a good one. I like that
one for sure.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
I would make my decision based on that. All right,
So I got three offers.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Don't want to wear that.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
I hate Pewter, so I'm not going to go over there. Coach,
thank you so much, really.
Speaker 8 (58:04):
Appreciate I'd luck appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Man, Thank you, all right, thanks Coach Shelton.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
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Speaker 2 (59:12):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
We gotta do our promise bet and if we miss it,
we put ten bucks in. It's one bet. I cannot
use my parley bet because I picked the money line.
It wasn't quite the line. Promise me to bet Eddie.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
I'm gonna promise you guys that I just don't think
the Giants are gonna win another game.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
Like they're just all over the place.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Their confidence is down the drain, they're not playing well,
and they're playing the Commanders at home. The Commanders are
minus two and a half. So I promise you the
Washington Commanders will cover that. It's always when I think
a team sucks and never ever will win again. I
thought about it when they win. I know I thought
about that, but I can't. I gotta just I remember
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how bad they are.
Speaker 5 (59:54):
I got you Daniel Jones playing.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
That's a good question because he was hurt. I don't
know the answer to that either right now.
Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
I mean, tyro Red is not awful, but just of question.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah, Reid, promise me a game.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Oh yeah, I'm going with the Buccaneers minus two point
five against the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
At home Bucks minus two and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Yeah, that's pretty good that I thought about that one too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I'm big Baker guy, big Baker guy, big Baker guy, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
I'm going to go with Tennessee at Alabama plus nine.
I think they go on the road. I don't think
they win but they'll cover that plus nine. I'll be
there really.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, going to the game, going down Tuskie. Yeah, you
going by yourself? Yeah, no you're not.
Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
No, no, oh no, I'm going with two friends girl.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, two girls? Two girls?
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Are you doing like a Jack Tripper three company where
they don't know you were with both of them one
on one side, ones on the other and you're always
switching sides and hat and you're like oh no, and
you walk over here like in the Alabama hat there,
like they switched out real quick. That'd be awesome. Yeah,
I'm going USC minus seven. It's at USC against Utah.
I think they bounce back. Yeah, Utah's good, but not really.
Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
That cam Rising thing is weird.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
It is weird.
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
What's weird about it? Just like, yeah, there are two things.
The cam Rising is weird. I'm not saying anything suspicious,
but it's weird. In the in Cleveland, that quarterback situation
is weird too. What are they not telling us about
Shaun Watson?
Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
No, I mean they already told us that, but like,
what's what else has happened? I don't know? Me smells something.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Fishyh So okay, those are our promise bets were good.
Speaker 9 (01:01:31):
There.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Okay, let's do let's do this or that and then
we're gonna get close to the end.
Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
Here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Are you ready ready? Would you rather have all you
guys can play?
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Come on, you have to have one be your quarterback
only for the next three seasons, so we're not letting
age affect anything.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Next three sins Lamar or Herbert, Lamar, Jackson Herbert, We'll
go Lamar.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Do you care?
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Red?
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
No, that's all right. Why Eddie?
Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Why Lamar? I mean he's just better than Herbert. I
mean we've been talking about it. We don't know what's
so good about Herbert. I haven't seen anything special. What
makes me think is gonna get better?
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Kevin?
Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Same with Lamar. Lamar's is up and down. He gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Lamar's an MVP tho, yeah, you've seen him. I felt
like a decade ago. That's because COVID happened. Man, you
are you mad at science?
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
But I'm mad at Lamar for getting hurt all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I would go Lamar, but it's close.
Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Would you like to have a stadium if you got
to build one for your team to be an open
air stadium?
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Or a dome. Eddie, give me the dome, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Give me the open air, I mean the fresh air.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I'm gonna take open air, but only because I would
only own a team in the South that would be warm,
right well, the weather's good, yeah yeah, but domes domes
are fun. Oh yeah, man, you just have complete control
of your I would go open air, though, who would
you rather have on your team? You get one wide receiver,
Jamar Chase or Tyreek Tyreek Hill Jamar Chase. I would
take Jamar Chase too. Why it's three years. I feel
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like overall he's a better wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Yeah, I think, oh, imagine him in that offense.
Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Tyreek's fast, and Tyrak's top three receiver maybe top one
right now even.
Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
But but you got to put Jamar in the same category.
Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I think Jamar just can do a little bit of
everything as a wide receiver, where Tyreek is not really
going to go one on one at a high ball,
on a fade, or go across the middle, be physical
like Jamar can doesn't always He's He's not DK Metcalf.
I'm not saying he is, but but it's close. They're
both awesome, is why I asked that, would you rather
have Bosa or Parsons?
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Michael Parsons, Parsons all day? Yeah, take your time on this.
I know they're very similar to me for Nick or Joey.
Who are we talking about?
Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Any both Bosas or a Bosa ball you could buy one,
or a Bosa speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I'll go Parsons, that's Bose. Would you rather.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Go to a big game, not the Super Bowl, but
like a wildcard game for your team in the playoffs,
or get a new mass of one hundred inch TV
and watch it at home?
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
You get to keep TV TV TV. Yeah, TV man.
The game experience is it's tough, it's awesome, but then
it's over, I.
Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Know, yeah, and you kind of feel like you're like, wait,
I don't even know what just happened.
Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Would you want to sit in a baller suite with food,
all the TVs done it, the cake thing coming through
cake card all that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Or right on the fifty yard line? Oh, can the
sweep be on the fifty yard line?
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Cannot like down first row, fifty yard line. I've never
done that, So I'm going to go fifty yard line,
first row.
Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the suite baller everything, free everything,
and we just talked about it. You go to the
game and you still don't really know what's going on,
so you might as well enjoy it and comfortable.
Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
I've done them both, have you which one is better?
Fifty yard line? You know, it's like fifty yard lines
kind of like front row. It's a little overrated. Oh really,
Oh it's awesome, but it's not as awesome as you
would think. I want to go sweet, but you wanted
to tidy r line once?
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah. Hey, what about those suits that are a field level?
You ever been in one of those? Like the Rams?
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Yeah, Cowboys, I've been at a Cowboy. We've been too
where the Cowboys are. But a pre game never like
sad in one? As a guest, would you rather what's worse?
Your rival, your main rival winning a championship or you
having a winless season.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Rival winless season? Oh man, that's just the whole season
of just torture. But then you get a draft pick.
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
There is that, and I appreciate the NFL forgiving us
that because it's always like, uh, okay, we do have that,
But man, it's a bad season when there's nothing going on.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I would probably I would rather have my rival win
the championship.
Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
But then all off season you have to hear about
this team winning the championship.
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
You're right, well, they both suck, dude, don't. Yeah, that's
all off season you have to hear about how you
didn't want a freaking game.
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
We're getting number one in the hot seat now, and
so it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Was a new GM and then the number one pick,
like you never know exactly what we're gonna get exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
You know, I'm drafting Ryan Leaf. All right, here's our
talk with Western Kentucky quarterback Austin Reid. We're on the
field with him prior to us running some drills. You
can watch us on the drills. Just go over and
check out too much access. Austin won a D two
championship with Western Florida prior to his transfer to Western
Kentucky and led the nation of passing last year. He
has almost two thousand yards passing a sixteen touchdown so
far this season. You can follow Austin on Twitter at
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a read three sixty five. Here he is Austin Reid.
Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Quarterbacks and specialists use the same bowl, so like usually
they use like a fatter one because it's I guess,
easier to kick, and they usually don't care really if
it's broken in or anything like that, so.
Speaker 10 (01:06:42):
They like rub it raw. Yeah, like I know, some
kickers like it brand new. I think Tommy, our punter,
likes it kind of broken in a little bit. But
those things, they're freaking basketballs, the walls that they like
to kick, whereas ours are like a lot more like
pointy and got like that.
Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
Now, like a lot of air in the ball, or
you like your flat like Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
Always is easier to throw pretty flat, but it is.
The refs are old. The refs are a lot harder
on you. You know.
Speaker 10 (01:07:05):
They come in there and check the PSI and make
sure it's good, right really yeah, and if it's not,
they'll pump it up like they don't.
Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
They don't play around about it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I like my ball nerve oh really yeah? Like like
or like me on, I want to play with my
orange board the tail. Can you ever see one of
those nerve balls?
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Just like this?
Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
How far? How far can you throw the ball comfortably? Comfortably?
Don't throw it now.
Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
As far as I have to? Can you? I guess?
Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Can you hit a fifty five yarder.
Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Yeah, I could. I could throw it probably at least
sixty five.
Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Really, yeah, at what age did you start to be
able to out throw other kids where it's like me,
he's got an arm.
Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Really not until like late high school. I was really
like a late bloomer.
Speaker 10 (01:07:51):
So like going into high school, I was like five
't four short kids, short, fat kid, And I kind
of luckily hit puberty and for my sophomore year high
school to junior or high school, like grew seven inches,
got a little taller, finally kind of got stronger and
started being able to throw the ball pretty well.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
If you grew seven inches in that amount of time,
I feel like we could actually seem to grow, Like
that's the like we can literally that's a lot of
growth in the year to that.
Speaker 10 (01:08:15):
It always you go back to church and all the
old people are, oh my gosh, there's so much taller now,
and they're like, it's been two months.
Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
It's not I don't look that much different.
Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
But yeah, being a quarterback at the school who's known
for the quarterback, do you feel a bit of pressure
to maintain what Wku is known for?
Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I mean I feel like it's kind of like the
standards you have to hold yourself to.
Speaker 10 (01:08:36):
You know, it started with really like Willie Taggart senior,
and it's carried over and you've had guys like Brandon
Dowdy who was obviously pretty successful, Mike White who's hung
in the league for a while, Bailey Zappy obviously, and.
Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
So I feel like it's kind of the standards you
have to hold yourself to here.
Speaker 10 (01:08:50):
If if you're willing to play quarterback here at the school,
you kind of have to like be like, hey, I
need to perform.
Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
That's what they expect here.
Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
So it's definitely a little bit of pressure, but it's
a good thing because it's it's kind of what quarterbacks
you are known for.
Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
You describe yourself as a late bloomer, but even in
college because you went to a Division two school and
then you came here, Like, what's what was the biggest
difference in game speed? And also do you still feel
like you're I hate I'm still lamps at blooming now?
Are you blooming now?
Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (01:09:16):
I feel like I'm always getting better and always kind
of getting a better understanding of what it takes to
be a successful quarterback.
Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
You know, I've always kind of been.
Speaker 10 (01:09:22):
A gunslinger and throwing the ball around a lot, and
I take chances and I throw crazy throws, but learning
to take those chances at the right time, learning when
to like take the easy check down, when to throw
a deep you know, I still want to be that
air raid gunsling quarterback, but like at the right time.
And you know, this level has been a little different,
you know, Shuder Sanders said it the other day, and
I kind of agree with them. I feel like the
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biggest difference really is at the offensive and defensive line.
You know, I played a lot of really good skill
players when I was at the Division two level who
are in the NFL, and I feel like the skill
player level, it's obviously not as good, but it's relatively close.
And the biggest difference you really see is in the
front sevens just creature. You play against our every week
are a lot bigger and stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
What's the perfect amount of throws for you in a game?
Do you want to hit forty fifty? Would you like
hit eighty?
Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
I'll throw it as much as Coach hell And allows
me to. I love throwing the ball.
Speaker 10 (01:10:12):
I've had multiple like fifty yard fifty at ten games,
and I love those, but I also feel like there's
a time in the place.
Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
We have to run the ball.
Speaker 10 (01:10:18):
And last year against u AB, I only had twenty
three pass attempts. I don't think I was like a
career low, but we plan for forty. Some people are like, hey,
that's a normal game, but it was so I feel
like there's a time in the place. But obviously, if
he gives me the green light, I'll throw it every play.
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Do you have to wrap your own like a pitcher
at the if you throw it forty fifty times?
Speaker 10 (01:10:36):
Yeah, like I usually, I usually got a ice after
every practice. I guess somebody throws in during a practice
and you know you got a ice. You gotta do
the BFR and on Monday Thursday to kind of keep
it loose is kind of thing before.
Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
It's like this like pressure thing that you put on this.
Speaker 7 (01:10:49):
Stand for big yeah big hefen.
Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
I don't think so. I think it Rea.
Speaker 10 (01:10:54):
It makes sense though, with how almost said damn thingks squeeze.
I thought I'm my fault on freaking cussing. But no,
So it's like we took that from a couple of
pictures in the MLB, and as you see, like with
throwing progression. Things are starting to move a lot more
towards the rotational aspect that pitchers have, and whether it's
plios that quarterbacks are getting into nowadays and rotational power.
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There's a lot of things that football people are starting
to steal from pitching in baseball, and so it's it's
all related somehow.
Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Do you self scout in that you watch and make
sure you're not giving a tails at playing quarterback with
your eyes or anything with your feet that you do
if a play is going a certain direction.
Speaker 10 (01:11:30):
Sure, I mean it's always like always trying to be
deceptive and try not to give anything away. Like you know,
it's like whether it's your wipe and your towel when
you know you're gonna throw, or whether it's how far
back is my right.
Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
Foot every time I throw compared to running.
Speaker 10 (01:11:43):
I mean, you obviously try to not give anything away
and try to like keep it all the same the
end of the day.
Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
They got to stop it though, so they can know,
but they got to be able to stop it.
Speaker 10 (01:11:52):
And a lot of teams know we're gonna come out
here and throw a fifty times and they still can't
stop it.
Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
So it's like there's tails, and there's like tells that
you're trying not to give away, but they all got stopped.
Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
I think about the wiping the hand down.
Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
That's a good I'm gonna tell my son, though, you know,
do you do it every because I like to be
a poker player, so in order for the plays where
I didn't want to have reactions scene, I a woulds
have reaction every time, or I would try. So do
you try to wipe your hand every time? Do you
try to not wipe your hand at.
Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
All or fick his fingers?
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Then where are you just like like I'm just gonna
always think to do it or not do it, but
do it?
Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
No, no pattern.
Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Yeah, it's just a game you play.
Speaker 10 (01:12:24):
It's always a game that you're playing against the defensive
coordinator the whole time. There's times where I act like
I'm checking the play and I'm telling everybody the exact
same play we had at first, and so now the
coordinators changing his defense up, and I'm like, we haven't
even changed the play at all.
Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
I'm just acting like I am.
Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
So what's the acting like he's changing it back?
Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Like is you never know?
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
There is?
Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Yeah, I didn't think about that when with the double up.
Speaker 10 (01:12:44):
Our defensive coordinator has done that a couple of times
for sure against us in practice. But it's always things
like that, or sometimes you'll like like be talking really
loud to a receiver like hey, he'd be ready for ready,
and then he snapped me a hand the ball off
me and then they're like, So it's a little things
like that you try to do, but it's always just
a game.
Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I was watching some of Hard Knocks this year with
Aaron Rodgers before you get hurt, and you know, linebackers
gonna be faking like they're a blitz, faking like and
Rogers just goes, you're not blitzing. It was the player
on the opposite team. You know they were doing those
joint practice. He goes, you're not blitzing, so just stop.
Do you know the defense that well? At times when
you get in the game to know what everybody's doing.
Speaker 10 (01:13:18):
Yeah, you can tell a lot of times when defensive
players are gunna blitz. A lot of times they like
try to play it off like they're looking at the
receiver and they're like trying to.
Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Almost play like too much. They're really dead, so to speak.
Speaker 10 (01:13:28):
And like they're acting like they're not coming, then they're
gonna come.
Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
So start walking the off the direction. Yeah, I guess
there's nothing to see here.
Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
Some guys are like almost like overdo it, that they're
gonna act like they're blitzing, and then you're like, all right,
I know you're coming out of it, like you're gonna
you're gonna fly out and play into coverage. So it's
kind of just watching film and figuring out guys tendencies
and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
But some guys on defense Tibbot.
Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Do you ever dream of film? Like you watch so
much film that when you go to sleep you still
see it.
Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
I dream about football way too much.
Speaker 10 (01:13:56):
I wish I didn't dream about football, whether you're dreaming
about something really good happened, or you have one of
those dreams where like every single throw you throw only
goes like two yards and you're like, what the heck's
happening to me?
Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
And so in my life, that's solid a dream. Wait,
not too much about it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
So I got this.
Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I love that I've seen that I have, but you
know you're running, you're up for it.
Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
So yeah, I saw something.
Speaker 10 (01:14:19):
I saw something before the year that said it was
like thirty thousand to one odds. I was like, so
you're telling me there's a chance.
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
I don't know, But did they have a conversation with
you the program, Hey, we're really going to push you
for this, And.
Speaker 10 (01:14:30):
Yeah, they kind of like they were out there like, hey,
we're gonna push you for a lot of stuff. We're
going to try and create a lot of publicity for
the program. I mean, I realistically know what the Heisman's about.
I know it's pretty much a Power five quarterback award.
But it's cool to create publicity for the for the program.
It's cool to bring eyes to the program. At the
end of the day, we're always just trying to like
show our brand of football to the country and we
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just want to be in that national conversation. So for us,
it's kind of pushing all that so we can be
in that national conversation. We can have that brand of
Western Kentucky football out.
Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
There, preseason Player of the Year, that's you. I mean
Heisman that no freshmen want it till a freshman want it, sure,
you know, so they're always and let's just say I
put five bucks on thirty thousand and one, I will
be a real happy guy because there is a chance. Yeah,
you feel healthy, you good.
Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
Yeah, body's body has been great thankfully this year.
Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
You get in the ice right after.
Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
We did a lot of the cold tubs in this
in fall camp and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
For this interview.
Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
He's gonna need it after this interview. Yeah, really really
really need after this right now. Yeah, So you don't
do ice after like you don't get a thing of
ice after a game.
Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
Games, I'm I get a little lazy.
Speaker 10 (01:15:32):
I'll usually just throw ice bag on the shoulder and
and roll from there, and then Sunday I usually do
a once of recovery rethink that.
Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Yeah, I say, just awesome to beat the quarterback. It's good,
It's awesome, right, it's a good time. I'm not gonna lie,
what's it like on campus? Gonna be like that every now?
You get it every now and then.
Speaker 10 (01:15:49):
It's probably not as much as if you're at like
an Alabama or something like that, but I mean you
still get that, and I'm not gonna act like it's
not cool to have.
Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
It's awesome. It's obviously fun, you know, to keep the
main think the main thing. But I mean, you know,
I hate it.
Speaker 7 (01:16:02):
Yeah, Allege experiences were not the same.
Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Yeah, And if I was a quarterback in my college,
to you, even if I didn't have a ball with
people to know, I just always be doing that. They'd
be like, why's that guy doing that?
Speaker 7 (01:16:11):
It's a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
It's got to him. Yeah, it's got to be to him.
Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
It's gotta be ham. Well, congratulations on on all of it.
You have a big, big season this year. But I mean,
are you already looking maybe you know, get self and
shamed for the next step. Yeah, that's the plan.
Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
Obviously.
Speaker 10 (01:16:25):
I'm gonna keep playing ball as long as they allow
me to. So keep getting ready, keep putting film on
Todd there. That's hopefully good enough that the league likes
what they see in.
Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, Canadian Football League. Let's get on our boys. Let's
good at the little Argonauts. Baby, let's go. Hey, thank
you very much.
Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Appreciate y'all appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
All right, that's it, Mike, I'm forgetting anything. You're good guys,
good show, good one. Hey, I'm chilling this weekend. We're
gonna buye cowboys are a buy how boys are?
Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
So I may not even really watch football.
Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
I wish we were on a bye it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
One of those things. Yeah, yeah, I bet you do.
I hope we're on a bye. What did you just throw?
Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
You want the funny answer I was gonna say, or
you want to it was actually give me the funny one.
Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
We're not gonna say it. I wish we were mad.
Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
We're playing Missippi State. We should beat them. We're six
point favorite. But I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I am gonna go nice. Yeah. But if well, I
think I'm having a stroke thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
If we don't win, I know it's that I'm going
to this game going please don't lose instead of win,
because it's it's already.
Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Been miserable and maybe that's what the team needs. You
there and think about that, Think about that, that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Give me a headset. Hey, would you watch it from
the field? I have. Oh, I was down there with
you one time. It's pretty Owes.
Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
You don't see much. It's the experience is cool to
be down there. You don't see much. So the last
time I was on the field, we were playing somebody bad.
You know we were bad. They were playing somebody good.
And they can showing me on the camera as being
irritated fan. I'm on the Arkhill sideline like good dad.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
They kept cutting to me, same way the.
Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Arkansas basketball game last year week get beat. The kept
going to me as I was sad fan at the
end of the game.
Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
I remember that one.
Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
You're like the Chargers fan the other night that lay
She's real by the way, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
She wasn't.
Speaker 7 (01:18:17):
No, she was real.
Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
But how did they find her amongst all them cowboy
fans there there must have been eighty.
Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
It basically fell like cowboys cowboys fans. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
I wonder what he kicked. He never said what he kicked? Like,
was it first wall? Okay, I would think. I don't
think you kick a person whoever was near him.
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that is our episode of too Much Access this week.
So now let's go to the tittle tattle.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The let's all right?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Flag football is officially a part of the Olympics. So
if you could have a team with one quarterback, two
wide receivers from the NFL, who would you pick.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Do we know if they're going to actually let NFL
players play, if it's going to work out season, because
it's it'd be summer games, right, so that wouldn't be
in season.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
But what if your NFL player and you go get
hurt doing this?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
There is a report that says NFL players are legit interested.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So NFL players can play.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
That would be the obviously a million dollar question.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So for sure, Johnny Manziel's gonna play like that would
be the kind of quarterback they would, for sure. Get No,
I think current NFL is what I'm asking. I know,
but I mean he doesn't play right now. No, I know,
but this is his chance to play. Like, Hey, I'm
not worried abut getting hurt. I'm not doing anything, Joe,
he's not good enough against the real quarterback five more years,
that's true.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Oh yeah, allow current and former players.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So but current players can play fire.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, hey former two, but we're gonna okay, Eddie Joe Montana,
Lynn Dawson.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Collinsworth, Joe Montana. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
So then let's do this. Let's act like it's happening tomorrow,
not five years. Who would you put on the team
quarterback wise, say on the kind of three so we
don't steal them.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Do you have yours quarterback? First? Ready?
Speaker 7 (02:56):
One?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Two? Three? Jackson?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Okay, good, same, probably same kind of player. Why Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I mean he's just more reliable to me than Lamar Jackson,
who knows what you're gonna get with Lamar right now.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
To me with Lamar, since it's flag and it's all speed,
I think, to me, I want a Lamar Jackson type.
But Mahomes works in that spot too, because he's extremely versatile, agile, agile, quick.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I don't know if he's I don't know if he's fast,
but he's quick inaccurate. Yeah, so I like both of
those picks, but I think I take Lamar. If you're
just asking me, okay, let's do a receiver. Let's just
do one receiver for now?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Ready? One, two, three?
Speaker 7 (03:33):
Tyree Lamb.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, why Ceede Lamb? I mean he's awesome cowboy.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Cede Lamb over all these other receivers.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I do like Tyreek. Obviously he's fast, it'd be amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
But anything near Ceedee Lamb, he's going to catch it, Okay,
Like if it's in his vicinity, he's going to catch it,
and he's.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I don't feel like Ceedee Lamb has great hands. What
I feel like he has pretty good hands, But isn't
he prone to drops occasionally?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Like bad ugly drops? Show me that?
Speaker 8 (03:56):
Yeah? He does.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Sometimes I feel like he doesn't want to catch the ball,
like sometimes I feel like he hits him in the chest,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What Mike doesn't like about him is that he laughs
when he misses a catch, like it's just him laughing
at himself.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Why is he missing a catch? Shouldn't be missing the
catch and trying to laugh it off miss the ball.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I feel, maybe wrongly, that Ceede Lamb is a great
receiver but doesn't have the greatest hands, which is like,
it's pretty fast, has pretty good hands, like does everything
in the top three or four, but really isn't number
one at anything, and you're forgetting the yards after catch.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But even strong Sea Lamb's strong.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah, he's a big boy.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So that's fine. I'm not hating on you for Ceedee Lamb.
Thank you. Well, you guys are.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Hating on me a little.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
When you said he has great hands, I just question
does he really? Because I felt, maybe unfairly that he
doesn't have great hands traditionally for a receiver, because I've
just seen him drop some balls.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Remember Das got on him early in his career a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Dea is also known at times for dropping balls.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
True, but yes, and that was last year, but it's
five years from now, six years ago, so we've.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Got time to get your hands.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
With Tyreek.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think the answer is he's fast, possibly the fastest
guy in the NFL. You just want speed out there
playing flag football. You don't need a lot of big,
strong linemen obviously, So I just go Tyreek because that's
the easy answer.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You want to do a second one? Yeah, but I
mean so I'm not gonna take Tyreek.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I'm not gonna take Ceede Lamb, so we have
to take a different receiver, got it?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
One?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Two, three, Archie Jefferson. It was going to be those two.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You don't like you though, though, And both of them
are awesome, and both of them can argue as the
best wide receiver in the NFL. Yes, with Tyreek, but
not clam and Ceedee Lamb on both sides.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Give me the gold. That would be fun.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
What if you had to do athletes that weren't football
players to put on the team as your quarterback and
two wide receivers. So it can be any athlete, but
they have to go play quarterback or wide receiver for
the team.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Interesting, God, that's tough. I don't even know who who?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Well, I would go like like a Dame Yeah, like
like Dame Lillard, Joe Moran or yeah or yeah, or
even like Steph who's obviously is a great athlete, but
it's really smart, like to play quarterback because you know
he's gonna memorize the entire playbook. And I take Steph
(06:21):
as my quarterback. I'm gonna take Steph as my quarterback.
And the two wide receivers. Who's your quarterback? By the way, Bolt,
why did you put him wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
I was gonna put him receive quarterbacks?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He's not American though, Okay, I forget forget that. No Bolt, who.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Was throwing dimes the other day?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Any athlete in another sport that went viral because you
could do like Mike Trout. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is it Bryce Harper? Like those guys? Is like quarterback
Brice Harper's he's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Hey, let's shake it up. Hope Solo? No, No, I Hope Solo.
What's your name? The girl?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Soccer team? You're just are you doing this because you
the pressed? It would be awesome on that what's her name?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Morgan? Morgan? You don't take the stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
This is an absolutely serious question that's life or death,
and we should be traded.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Alex Morgan hell of an athlete. You just think she's hot. Yeah,
it'd be awesome. Dude, are they having men and women?
Flight football? Are just men?
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
So?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And then wide receivers like who would be fast?
Speaker 7 (07:24):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, so who's like a fast Olympian? Why are you
asking me questions?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You know, like a hundred meters current Olympian? Like I
don't know, I don't know, but I don't It didn't
have to be a sprinter.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
You could pick somebody like I think John Morant will
be awesome for that because he is lightning quick and.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
He could jump up and grab a ball.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh yeah, the heights Okay? Oh man, he's not American.
I was gonna say, I want.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
To see yo quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Women Luca and he's got the most non American American team.
He's got beyond Well you think about it, though, then
we're America. We don't have all the great athletes, Like
what if what if?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I think we do have the great app the reason
we don't win. What if Greece takes Yannis and he's
their starting receiver, that's great, but we have other versions.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, look at Katie Older, but I mean you
can find other guys, and obviously he's not as ripped
up as Giannis.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But it's just a population thing.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
The more people, the more people, and the bigger your
country is, the more people you have, the more the
poll of athletes.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You get to pull from. So in Greece is not large.
That's why it's so weird that Yiannis is so good
because it's from a small country in Greece. Yes, three two, right,
I know, And they all get to play on the
bucks basically, and yeah, take up bench spots.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
That's a fun question though.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
That'll be fun and it'll be cool I think it'll
be cooler and more more fun if they If nflers
don't play, we have to find other athletes.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I agree to fill it.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Hey, well, you think they'll be cheating like double knot
on the flags, you know, because that's what our kids do.
My kids, like their lead gets. They get caught cheating
all the time, like tying the flag in yes, yes,
and they put three kids like dragging them.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Putting weights at the front of a sled or something
in the in the winter Olympics, right, same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
All sorts of cheating. Yeah, they'll find a way if
it can be done.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Russia will cheat using chemicals and America will cheat by strategy.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes, all right, next question, all right, some.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Real football here at a very quiet six and zero
in the season. Do you think Penn State will get
the recognition they deserve if they beat Ohio State this weekend?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
If they beat Ohio State, they absolutely will. They get
it a little now, just because they've won six games.
But the only ranked team they've beat is Iowa, but
they beat them bad. But it's like, if you don't
play anybody, it's hard to get anybody to care about you.
Michigan hasn't played anybody, but Michigan started off last year.
Obviously they played really well and as deep as they got,
(09:50):
and then you're already that high, so we just follow
you and we trust that you're going to be really good.
But still even then, people are like Michigan tou anybody either.
So they're all got to play each other. They all
get to eat each other up now finally, yeah, and
I hope they do. I like it when everybody cannibalizes everybody,
even in the SEC. I think it's fine because I
just love people being really passionate about something.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
There's not a real answer to look for sure. Alabama
should get in. Yeah, no way, man, And everybody's right
and everybody's wrong.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I love it so. Yes, if Penn State beats Ohio State,
but that'd be a disaster for that conference because Pen
State will get beats.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Ohio State may not get beat again until they play
in Michigan. They may even beat Michigan. I don't think
they will, but they could so. I Penn State wins,
but I don't think they will. Penn States also played
like you Mass, but they're real bad.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, I saw the bottom twenty five today football exactly
like U Mass and Connecticut are both usually traditionally really bad.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Everyone's walking. Connecticut will have a pretty good team, yeah,
and that's a big story.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And then they played Delaware. Oh, hell of a team. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Are they Division one?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Are they playing at the shit?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
They're in Ohio State right, Yes, which is why if
they beat them, especially there, that's a big deal for them.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
All right.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Next question NFL here which wrote underdog do you think
has a better chance to cover on Sunday? The Lions
plus three at the Ravens or Chargers plus five and
a half at Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I have said since the beginning, and I know I'm wrong.
I know I'm wrong. I'm gonna say it again. You
never say you're wrong, but I've said it about this
every time. I know I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I know I'm not seeing what the experts are seeing.
Couldn't be any more wrong. I'd never been a big
believer in Herbert, just because everybody tells me how good
he is, how awesome he is. He's never that he's fine,
or he's injured, or he misthrows to win the game
against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You did love him, though, No, a couple of years ago. No,
I never loved him. I think him now. I never understood.
But then I said, I guess I just have to understand.
He's really good. Dude, he's big, huh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I don't argue that he's not good. I argue that
I don't get I don't I don't get it. You
just don't see I'm missing something because I see why
he's supposed to be good. I hear everybody that knows
way more than me telling me he's good, So then
I believe him. It's like one to my doctor. He
knows way more about this rash than I do, so
I just.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Only studies rashes.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yes, So then what about when people say it's a coaching.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
He's had some coaching shifts. He's got a defensive coach
right now. The coordinator situation, I thought it was going
to be different this year. They got the Cowboys coordinator.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, the kid telling more h Boys. He say, quarterback, yep, lefty.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know what's I think the coach is a bigger
deal than we think, Like, like even Jalen hurts. There
are some quarterbacks that really just like I want to
do what I'm going to do, like I love you.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
If you have the equity to do that, you can
do it with Some don't get they'll get pulled right.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
And I think that that's the deal with with Herbert,
Like he's not making decisions for himself. He's just doing
what they're telling him to do. I think Dak's the
same way. But he's missing throws too though. That's the
thing he missed right. He could have won that game,
and he's still hurt. I think he's always been always
doesn't move like he's completely healthy.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I know he's good. I just have always said, I'm
not seeing it. I don't know why everybody gives them
put him the top three to four quarterbacks every year.
He hasn't shown me that he's that yet. But who
cares about me? I don't I care about you, man,
I don't even really care about you. Yeah, dude, it's
my opinion.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We're here for you man.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That being said, I don't think it's the Chargers covering
plus five and a half at Kansas City. I think
the Lions of plus three can actually go to Baltimore
and win. Love that just because the Ravens are hot
and cold. They're hot in.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The cold, yes, and they no, they drop a lot
of balls, then they score U toutdown. I didn't rhyme,
but I think Baltimore can be anybody. But I think
Baltimore can lose to anyone.
Speaker 9 (13:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Man, they shoot themselves in the foot all the time.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And I think the Lions can actually win that game.
So I want to take the Lions. I think they
have a better shot of covering of the two teams
all right, Next.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Up last one at five on one and facing off
on Sunday. Who do you think has a better chance
of making the Super Bowl at the end of this season,
the Dolphins or the Eagles, this.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Game is gonna be awesome. So good.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Even if it's not awesome, it's awesome to watch them play.
So you can kind of learn about their identity a
little more. You can see who's gonna choke.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You can see I don't I love when the big
matchups happened and you got two quarterbacks, which hurts. Not
having the best season, especially in Jalen hurts. I mean,
although he hasn't played for a long time. But I mean,
let's think've got a lot of interceptions this year, way
more than he had. I think he has as much
many now as he did all of last year. So man,
(14:34):
the Eagles just have done it before getting to the
Super Bowl, and not even the squad just traditionally. I
can I can see the wing in the Super Bowl. Yeah,
so that makes it easier for me to pick them.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Kelsey's still there, Like They've got people that have been there,
so I like it.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well still there yet last year, well yeah, I know
a lot of them. He was supposed to retire last year. Yeah,
But I mean they have a lot of people. Are
the coach. I mean, they have a lot of people
because it was just year. I was like, great pointed
and I was like, wait, that was last year.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I think I'm gonna have to go with the Eagles,
just because I feel like that culture has experienced it
a bit and won't think it's too big for them.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
The Dolphins may not either, but I don't know. I mean,
when was the last time the Dolphins were in the playoffs?
Nineteen seventy two of the year they know.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I don't know it's been after that, that long ago.
I thought you met super Bowl? Well, super Bowl has
been a long, long long time. But I mean that's
Dan Marino days.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I think it's close. I love both the teams. I'm
gonna go.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I think the Eagles. But they could actually play each other,
couldn't they?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, so if that won't, that won't happens. Too much Green,
they will let it happen.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
The NFL cit in room going all right, what are
the color schemes? Oh, we gotta make sure there's nothing.
Dolphins aren't green, guys. Great, I'm color blind as f
so you could be right green.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
No, they don't. Dolphins are baby blue and orange bangles. Oh,
here we go, Yeah, here we go?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But what what about like the dolphins? Though in there
are the dolphins not green?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
The logo is green?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Is it dolphin not green?
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Green?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh my god, eddie baby blue, it's green. I'm the
color blind one, and I think I only know because
people have told me that's turquoise, you idiots.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But oh, the turquoise would be a combination of green
and blue. Okay, Oh so then we're both right, ding ding.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's listed as aqua orange, white, and marine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Blue boo, marine blue being fourth, probably the least prominent color.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What color is aqua?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Green? Blue? Like a green blue?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Blue? Green? Yeah? So I guess what I mean. It's
it's like the gatorade, is it? It looks more green?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Though.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I bought a gatorade yesterday and the guy's like, do
you want a yellow or red? I'm like, what's a
yellow one?
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Yellow?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Of course they have yellow one. I always thought that's green.
I thought it was yellow.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
It's yellow.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
It's just a debate, man, It's a thing that you know,
everyone does like as they know the actual color of
the flavors yellow?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Right, Yeah, what's the flavor of a yellow gator er? Lime?
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Lime?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Which is which is green. If it's lime, then you
may have a great point. No, it's not lemon, like gosh, man,
if I'm right, that's that's three argument.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Is lemon lime?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh my god, turquoise, We're both right. Basically it's turkoise
in the middle.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Hey, hey, back in the Dolphins though, like they are.
They're missing a chain or however you pronounce a chan
like yeah, like, so they're not full strength right now.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Waddle got injured last game.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Nobody's full strength though, No I know, but I'm talking
about not playing. So if you go into the Eagles
game with injuries or whatever, I mean, the Eagles may
look like they could be the team to go to
the super Bowl. But I think the Dolphins, like once
they're healthy in four weeks, three weeks or whatever, full strength,
like they're gonna be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
The Eagles lost to the Browns.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, Jets, too much green, I swear to God's I
just green?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now that's green? Oh my god, I'm going who the
Eagles lose to. They lost to the They also.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Loss of the Jets, the Browns, Niners, loss of the Browns.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Oh my god, all these games are getting mixed up
in my head. I know, man, that's football, football now,
I know, I knew they lost. Anyway, I go with
the Eagles. You, yeah, I'll go. I'll go with the
Miami for that reason. Who's favorite Sancisco? Yeh yeah? All right,
thank you. That's the tittle Tittle.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
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Speaker 2 (18:39):
Do you want to do the parlay? Why were you
reading it like that? Announce their voice? Jim nance not
a legit? Thank you, Kevin. Have you seen Jim at all?
Saw him on the golf course. That's amazing. Talked with
him for a while. Great guy, good shot there, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
He didn't say that because it wasn't a good shot
when he was there.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Okay, we have failed our listeners. Which would you call
the whistlers on the parlay? We failed? I failed them
many times. Oh like the Swifties, they're the whistlers. I've
been calling the whistlers at the beginning. Never caught that,
never caught that.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
But I like it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Thank you, Eddie, go man, it's a tough one. Give
me the one game for our parlay. This is a
tough one, but I'm going to go unc North Carolina.
They're playing Virginia and I believe they are minus twenty
three and a half.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh, you're going with that line. I'm going to go
with a big line on that, Okay, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Speaking of big lines here. Michigan been blowing everybody out
this year, and I think they do it again on
the road at Michigan State minus twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Rivalry twenty four.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Michigan State is a very bad Oh, it's a bad one.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Rivalry twenty four rivalry. That's a lot of points.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I'm going Ole Miss money line over Auburn. No, no guts,
it's not a twenty point game though it's less than
a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, you're probably gonna win it, but I'm just
making funny.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
I'm just trying to win, man.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, then give me North Carolina money line. Well it's
twenty three and a half. That'll can someone stick that
in the app for ten bucks and let me know
what that is? Ole Miss money line over Auburn Michigan
minus twenty four at Michigan State and you NC minus
twenty three and a.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Half versus, that'll be good money miles.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
If you put one hundred, it's probably if I'm betting,
I'm gonna let me guess what it goes off that,
because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I would say you're looking at two probably won ten
bets and then that one minus. If you put it
in one hundred I'm gonna say six hundred and eighty bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I'll read this book while you do that. If you
want to take twenty five busles, probably a check out
Drafting sports book. New usuers used to go to Bobby
Sports when you download the app twenty one enough in
most eligible states, but age varies by jurisdiction, eligibility and
a posit restrictions apply. Gambling problem called one huture gambler
in New York called eight seven seven eight hope and wire.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Text hope and why stick it in yet? I mean,
did you now yet?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I had to log in, We had to get through it.
You got to find here we go. I have to
log in and then.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, no, you don't, You're right, don't that's true? And
by the way, I'll read you my stats in case
you missed on the last one because if I'm betting
and telling you, I'm literally betting too. I'm betting this
so far on the year season review football season. Anyway,
I've made one hundred and ninety eight bets. I've wagered
twenty one, three hundred and ninety three dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's baller, dude, that's baller. Were you not here when
I did this the other day? No, my winnings are
one thousand ninety nine dollars.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Okay, it went up.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, yeah, I had a pretty good weekend last weekend,
so I'm plus one thousand ninety nine dollars. I also
want to say this, I deleted twenty the Bobby and
Whistlers from the DraftKings.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, that was weird. I had a group of a
couple hundred people.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I deleted them because I can't getting the emails going.
There's a new person in the group and I couldn't
turn it off. I turned every setting. Really, it kept
filling on my mailbox and I was a Eddie, can
you find this saying we look forever? I couldn't find
it since I was running the group, and gave me
all the eat quit. Probably start another one if I
can figured it out. But right now I got to
figure out how to not get the email. Probably figure
that out, so I'll start a new one. Maybe it
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washes that taste of all the miss parlays off. Anyway,
for one hundred bucks when he got ten one hundred,
you just add another zero to that.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
That's true. Five oh one.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Okay, close you bus one hundred feet, I'll do that.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
One hundred bucks, one five hundred. Put put that on
pay out as five hundred.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I'll put a hundred on it. Wow, that's crazy all
my parties to put one hundred on I know, I know, dude.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
I was in bed with my wife twenty one grand
so far.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I was in bed with my wife and we're like
just sitting there, and I was like, do you know
how much Bobby spends on.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
A week?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
I just came up. I think, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I think I was placing a bet and she was
like how much?
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I told her. She was like, oh like why wait,
how I don't spend twenty grand a week?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
No, no, no, no, even the number I told her, what
number is?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeller?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
What three grand?
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, I mean I say that here, that's what I say. Yeah, yeah,
this last week. But you also have to understand let
me find them.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I know, dude, you're you got more money than I do.
That was not what I was going to say, I get.
That was not what I was going to say at
all this last weekend. Oh what did you discover this
last weekend? It was a five grand weekend?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Ooh yeah, I'll tell you that one. I saying because
I thought you had sixteen thousand before that. It was
close to like sixteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, it's a five grand weekend because I bet thirty
four hundred on NCAA football and fifteen hundred on NFL.
My point is, if I start firing off shots and
they're all missing, I don't keep betting. Well, yeah, because
you're at four thousand. No, I would stop too. Do
you think that I have? I go, okay, I'm gonna
bebout four thousand dollars all at once.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
No no, no, no, no, that would be dune, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And if I miss five or six big bets, I'm out.
I'm never gonna lose. I might if I'm just five
or six big What do you mean, like how big bets?
My unit is one hundred bucks. Let's say I do it.
That's that's your one dollar for me.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Your your unit's a dollar.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yes, So I would say if I lose like a
five unit bet, I'm like, oh, I can't. I'm not
gonna do another one of those, lose another one, I'm quitting.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
For the weekend.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Because I can easily pull the trigger to bet, easily
pull the trigger to stop. I don't have a problem,
but I do understand how if you're not careful sure
and you're not setting rule. My rules are, if I
lose two big bets, I'm done. So I'm never gonna lose.
I'm never gonna lose that. I say that, I don't.
I don't want to actually lose it. Now, there's no
such thing as never. But I wouldn't have a five
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thousand a weekend if I wasn't doing pretty good.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I'll tell her that tonight. It's not
gonna work. What's not gonna work?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Let it?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Haven't telling her that so she lets you bet more.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well, it's really yeah, it was really for me to
be like, how cool, Like I I just spend fifty
isn't that cool? Like that's what I spent. I've moved
up to fifty. By the way, a week. Yeah, no,
a month, a month, a month. I haven't told her
that yet. I think I thought you only got to
fifty because she lets you no, I was at four. Yeah,
I knew that I was at forty a month. But
I think we're going so strong with all of these
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parlays and stuff. We're losing. We're losing, I know. But
that's why I needed to up it a little bit. No,
that's the opposite way you should do. That's what I
just said, just that.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, I should say.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Scale back.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Is everybody's promise bet that same bet which one get
picked for their thing?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Min can't No, No, mine's different.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, mine can't be because mine's not a line bet
because I took the money line true. So we'll come
back to our promise bet. How much is in the
broken promises?
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Jar?
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah, right here, seventy, but it's gonna be ninety. I
gotta throw ten in which I have read.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah night, we'll say ninety bucks, ninety bucks in their
broken promises, Okay, and then we'll do our promises coming
up in a second.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
A couple of things.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Number one, Caleb Williams wants partial ownership of whatever NFL
team drafts him. I'd also like a two foot penis
good luck?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
D Why would you want two foot? Yeah? Yeah, that's good,
just gonna be cool. Don't want to two inches? I'm like, what, no, no,
to hey, has anyone ever done that?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Aaron Rodgers tried with the Jets and they wouldn't let
him do it. It's such a precedent. There's no way.
I mean Aaron Rodgers, I understand. Yeah, but even then
they said no.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I mean even if Messi was like I like to
play in the NFL and on part of a team,
I don't think they.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Would let MESSI would have been a good receiver.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
No, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But I can't tell how good of athlete soccer players
are because they're all run around other great athletes. It's
like sprinters when they all sprinting gets each other.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
How fast are they really? Like Kevin run beside him?
They all really know how fast they.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Let's set it up.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
So, yeah, there is no I think there's zero percent chance.
There's no such thing as zero present chance. I think
there's point one percent chance they let Kayleb Williams have
any part of.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
A team, right, no shot.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I mean when Tom Brady was rumored to be buying
part of the Dolphins, which now is part of the.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Vegas.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Yeah, Raiders and a Vegas.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And they just want a championships. They got another title.
Speaker 7 (26:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Why is he owning Vegas because.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They wanted him? Why do I own part of a
pickleball professional pickball team? Because they reach down there? Do
I know part of we'd like you to be part
part owner?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, but you're part Texan, that's true. It's as I
would say, Texan. I'm Austinite.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, yeah, Texas, mm hmm, don't you're a Cowboys fan? No, nope,
And listen, everybody in Texas.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I love you. I lived there for a long time.
That's where we met. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I am part Austinite for sure, me Mike, you met Michael,
but not Texan.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I'm on our Kansas for sure, a bit of Austinite.
And you know what a little Tennessee in there? Yeah, yeah,
for sure. So, but there's no chance Kalla Williams is
part of a team, right. No, it would have to
be something so ground a player so groundbreaking that would
make them so much money for them to even consider it,
because then everybody will want it.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, and there's no way the NFL owners, Goodell, whoever
want anybody else in on that pie at any portion.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well without being cleared at least because they're ownership groups.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
There are like the Steelers, right, Like there's a group
of people that own the Steelers. I mean even the Packers,
like people own states in them.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
There's a may there's a majority owner. But even Dan Snyder,
as he owned the Commanders, he was the majority owner,
but he sold the team. Now there's an owner but there.
That's why Magic Johnson is there because he's part owner there.
I won't say too much, but there was a professional
in one of the big three sports teams asking me
if I want to be a part owner of a team.
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I can't say much else about it because I can't
jeopardize it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
But it's a very minority thing. But it's really cool.
I was thinking maybe Jerry would let you in.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
But now on the Cowboys, now now he's a full owner. Yeah,
oh yeah, they're not letting anyone else in.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Anthony Richardson to have season ending shoulder surgery, which sucks
because he was fun to watch. We mentioned on the
last episode of this that I think they can probably
win more games now. But he's just not going to
develop because anyuarterback with hair come out of their helmet,
he can gun sling.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
A little bit. Oh, Trevor Lawrence, Well that's a little bit.
Who's their quarterback? Colts? We'll play We'll let's play back.
Name the backup?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Menshew Gardner, Minshew Minshew Minshew Minshew Gardner, Minshew does any
show along here?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And a mustache exactly. So if you got hair come
at your helmet, you can win a game. You may
lose eight, but you can still win one.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Okay, okay, I think other quarterbacks have hair coming out
of helmet. Let's see Trevor Lawrence. Wow, that's it. You
can win games. How about the Notre Dame. Oh wait
wait wait.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, he's got a little bit of hair
coming out of us. Got a little bit. So we
went a little bit of a game.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
You see how hertman just shaved his beard.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I hate that.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
It's a hard stash.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
He was so hot and then that happened. Sorry what
I thought I thought that? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I said that Tom Brady thinks the NFL is becoming
more like flag football. My favorite thing about this story
is that now that he's out of the league, he's like, you're.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Allus awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Because he was the first one to scream and cry
as soon as anybody hit him.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Uh huh, hilarious. Here's a clip.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
This is Tom Brady talking about NFL officiating on the
Let's Go podcast with Larry Fitzgerald and Jim Gray.
Speaker 9 (30:12):
All I know is the defender's got every right to
push back on DK, but he doesn't do it, and
they throw a flag. I'm like, I don't understand what
the flag is. This is football, you know, this is
in touch football. This is real football, and I think
the physicality which people really enjoy. I certainly enjoy it.
I love that physical element of the sport. I don't
think we should ever lose that. You know, there's so
many people that want it less and less physical. It's
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more like flag football, which is going to be in
the Olympics in twenty twenty eight, you know, which, maybe
football goes to flag football over a period of time.
I don't think fans will like that that much. Then
everyone should stop bitching about unnecessary roughness calls now.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Rough in the passer punk. I know, it's just a
weird thing coming from him.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
He used to get blown up.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh, and he'd always complain about.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
It, cry all the time years ago, even about times
when he wasn't getting blown up, he would cry.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Like I said, if you're quarterbacks out, it sucks for
your team. Nobody will likes to watch games as the
bad quarterback. But it's football. It's football. It's not touch
I hear you. In basketball supposed to be physical, but no.
We hated the nineties when everybody's fallt ballad crap a Detroit.
There were no there's no scoring. We love scoring with
the occasional defensive stop. Yeah, it's like baseball. We love
home runs every once in a while. We'll like to
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see a good complete game.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
But you know what, though, if this is going to
be him on TV, I like it, Like I want
to see him be a little risque because I just
picture him.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He's not showing his pecker, is.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
That not that means like a little lot of controversy
but me, yeah, a little controversial having an opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
That's what I was going for.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Not really like taking his shirt off, go ahead, But
you know, like I want him to have opinions. I
just kind of have the the idea that he was
just going to come in and just be like, oh,
you know, that's a good play right there, Jim, Like
you know, I want him to be you know, like
this voices opinion.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, him on his six million dollar yacht. No, it's
a video maybe yesterday morning. If him on the front.
It's only only six million dollars to him. They're like,
here he is on a six I thought he have
a forty million dollars year.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
He probably does.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
What's the difference. Oh is that a small that's his.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Yeah, that's his dicky boast is weekday one. He has
a weekend one.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
What do they call it? Dicky boat?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Dingy vote?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, dingy vote a little dinghy, that's it. Dingy boat.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
So those are the stories that I wanted to mention there.
Let's go to Tyson Hilton, the Western Kentucky head coach.
He previously coached at USC and Tennessee prior to getting
the head coach and gig at Western and November twenty eighteen.
You can follow coach Helton on Twitter at coach Underscore Hilton.
He was Sam Hunt's coach. We talked about that in
the interview.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah Donald, yeah, oh yeah and Sam Hunt.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Sorry, yes, Sam Hunt and Sam Donald. That's true of both,
right Sam Donald ware us see oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Here he is coach Tyson Helton coach.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Thanks for having us. You are a lot younger looking
in person.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I think on camera when you're just like intense, I
think intensity ages folks on TV.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
It does you know too, Like I think I have
a hat on and the gray hair and then they
get a little gray in the beard.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So when did it start to go great? Because I'm
we're about to say, mate, I'm just called your drunny
than you. But I'm getting it like through here a
little bit.
Speaker 8 (33:07):
No, mine was probably when I really know, it's probably
four or five years ago. Yeah, are you married? I
married four kids, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
So probably forced it earlier. Yeah, those four kids will
really bring his in one hair Eddie get hit like
nineteen Yeah, like.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
You, ball will do that to you, whether to go
for it on fourth and one or kick the field goals,
it'll it'll give you some gray hairs real fast.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I feel like the last three or four years and
it maybe analytics that have allowed this, but there's a
lot a lot more going forward on fourth, not just
fourth and one, but fourth and two and a half
or less. Do you feel like the last few years
you've seen a shift not only with teams around the country,
but but even within yourself.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Yeah, most definitely. I think, first of all, I like
the book because if it does work, you can blame
the book. You know, you say, hey, we spent all
this money on analytics, so you know that's why I
went for it on fourth and two, you know. But
I do see that that shift. I think it makes
people feel better where it's not a gut feeling, and
uh so that's why you're seeing it more and more.
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But it's going to continue to be that way. I mean,
it's going to continue to you're at the minus thirty
three and it's fourth and four and you're going for
it because the book tells you to. You're going to
see a lot more of that.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Do you feel like the book just wrong? Sometimes? Though
we were like that gun, there's more question.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
So I got a guy up in the box and
we're in the we're in our home opener, and I'm
at the minus twenty nine and he's coach fourth or
three or less. It's a go, I'm like, b yes, okay,
what's that? Yeah? So you know, sometimes I questioned the
book a little.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Bit being an offensive guy, or at least I assume
you're an offensive guy. You were the yeah, yeah, so
be an offensive guy. I guess the problem that I
have with some of these defenses when they're up against
an offense that moves pretty quickly or all the grab
into the hamstrings to slow the game down.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
Yeah, we're a little bit.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
For a second, I thought when Aaron Rodgers went down,
he was slowing the game down for a split second before.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
They would have just started though, I oh, I needed
a break already. But when he went down because he
was standing up and then he just falls and in
college especially right, what would you do to make that
better for folks like me who just want to watch
the game and not watch people fake injuries.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Well, if you want to solve the problem real quick,
what they need to do if a player goes down,
if the training staff has to enter the field, that
player has to stay off the field for the rest
of the series. So that would probably solve a lot
of that those issues, because what happens is you lose
a good player. He's not in there the rest of
the series, people think twice about, hey, do I want
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to fake the injuries all those kind of things. But
when you're a tempo team like us, you're going to
continue to see that. I mean, it's just part of
our game right now. And they try to tell you, hey,
you can be fined or you know, all these these
discipline things can happen, but nobody follows it. Nobody can't improve.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You're not hurt. Yeah, injured, you could, but you can't
be like, no, I swear to god, that's whatear to
go guy, Judge, I's feeling it.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
Well, some of them should be actors because they do
a good job faking it.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Do you teach your guys how to there's a whole
class on that.
Speaker 9 (36:06):
Not at all.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
We follow the rules, right, that's right, coach. Like in
the movie Rudy, the whole crowd, the whole stadium's channing
Rudy Rudy to get him in. In your experience, could
a fan base ever affect your decision on who to
put in or not?
Speaker 8 (36:25):
I would say yes. I could say yes if it
was the right situation at the right time. I think
if there's a player that the fans love and you
know they want to see him play, and you know it,
yeah I could. I could see myself doing that. First
of all, I love the movie Rudy, So I think
you know that that would be a classic example. Hey,
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get get the fans favorite in you know.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
So who who are your favorite A couple of your
favorite guys that you've coached over the last five six years,
maybe not just in here, but like Tennessee, USC like
that as people you're just like man regardless of where
they go.
Speaker 8 (37:00):
I tell you what, because it's in your industry. When
I was at UAB, I coached Sam Hunt for a year,
so I had an opportunity to be around Sam. He
was one of my favorite guys. I love Sam. Probably
another good one, Sam Darnold USC. You know, we won
the Rose Bowl with Sam there. That was that was huge,
you know. And then you get here and I mean
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you got Brandon Dowdy who played in the NFL. You
got Mike White played in the NFL. Now you got
Bailey Zappy in the NFL. And then who you guys
will get to see later Austin Reid, who you know
is killing it right now. So there's been a lot
of good ones I've had opportunity to coach.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
What are those guys all have in common?
Speaker 8 (37:38):
Characteristically? They have a killer instinct they all have. They
all have that cutthroat mentality, that competitive mentality about them
when they could be the nicest guys on the field
but off the field, but when they walk on that field, man,
they're they're trying to get after it. I mean, they've
all kind of had kind of that linebacker mentality even
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though they play quarter back. They don't mind mixing it
up and in clutch time when you need it the most,
they usually come through for you.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Do you ever have to tell your guys, for example,
Josh Allen likes run through people.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Or Anthony richardson his first year this year in the NFL,
he's quite physical, even just through Like, Hey, I need
you to go down and not risk yourself as much.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Does that happen with you? Is that a weird conversation
to have, like hustle less?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Well, yes and no. Like Austin, our current quarterback, I
don't mind running him. He's a physical guy. You know,
he doesn't mind running the football. But there are times
where I'm like, hey, dude, you need to get down,
you know, when they scramble and they're in the middle
of the field, I get a little concerned, you know,
And so that's when I'm telling him usually and a
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lot of these guys are still sliding, and I think
you're giving yourself up even more for injury. And I
tell the guys, hey, go cut the inside leg of
the defender who's coming at you, you know, because like
I told you, these are aggressive guys that want to
run anyways, you're probably most perte to doing that. But yeah,
there are times when I'm sitting there going, dude, get
down for me.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Coach, How did the headsets work? Like who are you
talking to? Are there different channels? Like if I want
to talk to OC, this is one channel? Or are
you all talking to the same mass chaos?
Speaker 8 (39:14):
It is mass chaos. There's twenty people on the headset.
Everybody's talking at once. Somebody's dog cussing somebody else. I'm
trying to call a play, you know, the on line
coach is hollering at the offensive line. He doesn't have
his headset and channel that all the mask cho I
don't care where you go. I don't care where you go.
(39:35):
I wish you want to have total entertainment. Let what's
being said on the headset be broadcasted. It would make millions.
I mean, it's unbelievable what goes on on those heads.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
So do you have to say, hey, everybody, shut up,
I'm saying something right now.
Speaker 8 (39:49):
Oh yeah, all the time.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Usually it's not that nice, like an override button, like
to overwrite everybody, like a god button to where your
feed even goes over the PA.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
That would be an ultimate god button to do that
when you're talking to your coaches and you're on the
headset and you guys are communicating. I was watching a
thing where there are certain organizations who they have accused
of making sure the system don't.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Run as properly. Have you ever been somebody you have
to say?
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Who say?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Where? Have you ever been somewhere where you're like, I
think they're kind of messing with our equipment.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
Yeah, I've had several of that. I've had several of that.
Whether that's true or not, I don't know. They're supposed
to shut both systems down when that happens. But you know,
sometimes if you're out of major power five and there's
one hundred thousand people there, and you know, you're Western
Kentucky and they're supposed to shut it down and it
doesn't shut you know, like, hey, did you shut theirs down?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
No?
Speaker 8 (40:41):
They still got it. You know that that goes on
a little bit, but there's nothing you can do about it.
The good thing for us, we can control all signals
and communication right there from the sidelines. So it sucks
for the guys up in the box, but we still
have full control on the sidelines.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Can you guys go full hand signals if everything shuts down?
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, And whenever you guys are doing let's say you're
doing signals or you got two or three guys doing it.
When I played baseball, you know, there was an indicator
and then after the indicator was the sign. But they're
like multiple people doing signs. Are there just decoy sign
givers who are really doing nothing? But I don't know
dancing basically?
Speaker 8 (41:18):
There is Yeah, there's there's guys. There's fake headsets. There's
guys that have headsets on that look like there's a big.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Purple on with a McDonald's. I knew that wasn't really
I knew that he's taking an order for a burger.
Speaker 8 (41:29):
You got that going on? You got three or four signalers.
You got the big screens trying to block, you know,
from people in the box stealing signals. You know, our
signals are so sophisticated. We we don't have multiple signalers.
We just have we just have one guy doing it.
But we have probably five different signals for for every formation,
every route, every run. So there's a lot in multiple
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for one, oh just in case, oh yeah, and do
you switch them out each game?
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Or we just called like all right, we're gonna go
through on level three at halftime, can you switch it
case you think? Very conscientious?
Speaker 8 (42:01):
So, and also to whatever the quarterback signals out there
to the skill players, if he wants to do something,
he's conscientious, So all right, I'm not giving that same
signal again. That signal's done with for the rest of
the night. So there's a lot that goes into that piece.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
A lot of these colleges have, you know, like Ohio
State has the stickers you know for accolades. Georgia has
like the big old chain. Do you guys have anything
like that here?
Speaker 8 (42:23):
No, there's so much to keep up with with all
that and all the stickers, and I like my helmet
clean like you look at that.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I like the clean helmet.
Speaker 8 (42:31):
I like a clean helmet. So we do things to
reward them after the game, and we have a big
board up on the wall and it has their picture
and it says hey, offensive MVP or Special Teams MVP.
They really like that. But I like a clean uniform.
So we don't do any of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Being Conference USA, you know of the schools that aren't
Power five, Like this is the powerful conference that's not
Power five yet.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I mean everybody's moving around, who knows. But do you
feel like you guys are benefiting from the trans transfer
portal being here in like the prime spot, I mean
basically one half level below the Power five schools.
Speaker 8 (43:09):
Yeah, I definitely think so. When when the transfer portal
was coming about, we knew it was going to happen.
That's when I went and got Bailey Zappy, you know,
Bailey's Appy FCS Houston Baptist at the time, Now Houston Christian.
Nobody was really looking out there, you know, at the
lower levels like that. Now they don't care. They'll go
to Vision two, they'll go to SCS. But I think
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what we got ahead of the game there, and it
really put us on the map, kind of like the
transfer you school to go to. If you didn't go
to Power five, you were coming to Western Kentucky. We've
gotten some really, really good players, but you have to
stay ahead of the game in the transfer portal because
now it's flooded. Everybody's doing the same thing. So you
got to change some things up. You know, Austin Reid,
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you know nobody was going into the Division two market.
We go get Austin Redi's the number one path from
the country last year. Now you're seeing everybody. They don't
care anymore. They're going at all levels. So you got
to stay one step out of a game. You got
to keep mixing it up.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
How would you remedy the poaching problem where if you
have a star player, there are certain programs that are
calling trying to get those players to enter the portal.
Speaker 8 (44:17):
Well, I think I don't have an answer for that.
I think that the more the closer, if we're going
to have nil and transfer portal together, I think the
NFL model, the closest we can get to. An NFL
model would be great. I don't mind talking about this
at all. Needs to be a national database, says exactly
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what everybody's nil is, so there's no BS. Everybody knows
if you're going to transfer, there has to be full
disclosure of what is happening, what does that look like,
all those things prior to happening. You know, these are
all things that are hush us right now. Nobody wants
to talk about it, but it's all happening out there.
It's widespread. I think there's when there's more transparency, everybody's
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open and honest, and you have a more of an
NFL model, you'll start to have some situation where you
don't see poaching as much. You can sit down and
have real conversations. Because you look at Austin Reid last year.
Austin goes into transfer portal. He can go anywhere. I mean,
he can go anywhere, but because we had open, honest
conversations about who was looking at, what he was thinking,
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what the benefits for of staying at Western Kentucky, he
decides to stay. Right So, if you can get into
those conversations earlier in there's transparency with the data, I
think you'll have more people that won't leave you, or
it'll be cleaner process.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
I've done probably twenty or twenty five and il deals
with players for different projects, and you're right, you can
do whatever you want. Basically nobody has to know anything.
And it's got to the point too where you just
hit up the player just like hey, what up.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
And so the fact that there are no rules and
it's the wild West, it's almost as if everything has
to go wrong before somebody wants to fix it. Because
nobody's going to fix something that's just kind of bad,
and especially when the big schools are benefiting from it.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
What has to go wrong in order for people to
go We need to make this rule change. Because I
agree with what you're.
Speaker 8 (46:13):
Saying, well, I think it's coming. Make no mistake, the
NC double A is coming. They are coming, and a
couple of teams are going to get pounded. And when
they get pounded, I'm talking about sanctioned and the whole deal.
It is coming. When that happens, everybody will throw up
their hands and say, all right, we need reform. We
need to get this thing cleaned up. Everybody right now
thinks it's a wild wild West. Through the history of time,
(46:35):
the NC double A is like the irs, you are
going to pay your taxes. They are eventually coming. So
if you're not doing it the right way and you're
you're just blatant out there, you are going to get caught.
So that's what's going to eventually happen.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
NCAA comeback player of the Year. Everybody kind of counts
them out right now, they're going to show up again
and get the bigger war. Coach, when you're recruiting, what
where is the punter and the kicker come in? Are
they like, oh, shoot, we forgot to get a punter.
Speaker 8 (47:03):
And a kicker, or like, no, I'm a huge special
team I'm so that's that's funny. I am a huge
special teams guy. So part of my coaching career I
was a special teams coordinator. I got to coach Stephen Goskowski,
who was the kicker for New England Patriots, great kicker.
When I got to coach him, I realized how important
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a great kicker is. So all my guys are on scholarship.
Long snapper, punter, kicker. They're all worth the scholarship because
you look at those sidelines for the game win field goal,
people are praying, they're on their knees or biting towels,
or they're in a huddle. You know they're circled up.
It's an important position, so we scholarship them all.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
As a special teams coordinator, how many ways are there
to go down, kick the ball and tackle, because I
you know, I've seen a lot of blown coverage. I
mean games, easy, right, right, you kick them all, you
stay in your lane, you go down, you tackle Like,
what am I missing? How can that not go right
over and over again for the same team.
Speaker 8 (48:02):
Well, it is total chaos. We'll start with that. If
the kicks not long enough, it's not deep enough. If
the returner we always say, hey, take the pitch you
can hit. You're a baseball player. When you get that
right pitch man, at the perfect timing, you're going to
crank it out of the park.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Right.
Speaker 8 (48:18):
Well, that's when that usually happens. Kicker doesn't get it
high enough. A returner got a pitch he can hit.
Now he gets vision, he's he runs four three four four,
he's running right at you full speed. They got the blocks.
That's right, That's why you see all that. That's why too,
it's great to have a kicker on kickoff that gets
great touchbacks, you know, so you never have to have
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that a punter that has great handtime, so you're always
getting the fair catch signal. Or if you don't have
that guy rugby punt, you got to move him around.
We call him say, we say, hey, hit dirty balls.
You know those ugly dirty balls that nobody wants to field.
So those are the things you got to do. But
that's the beauty of our game. You're gonna have that.
I mean, you look at the other night in the
Jets game. Yeah, that's how they won the game. I mean,
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that's the National Football League best of the best, and
they go win the game on a on a punt return.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
If I wasn't specialty to the corner, that never happened
in your lane. Don't get out of your lane, make
the tackle.
Speaker 8 (49:11):
I tell you what you need to do while you're
here is you need to catch punch from the from
the drug machine and put a helmet on and put
on shoulder pads. And it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Maybe for you coach.
Speaker 8 (49:24):
It's because the ball moves. Yeah, the ball moves and
all that. But you'll get a better understanding too of like, hey,
I got a pitch I can hit, I can I
can catch this one and take this one to the house.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
I only returned to punt once playing high school football,
and I was playing. Listen, I don't like to get
a hit, coach, I'm be honest with you. I don't
like to play defense.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
I was.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
I was an h back, slot receiver. Didn't like to
play defense back and catch, and so they would.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Put me on any sort of you know, prevent nickel,
any of that. I've played defensive back. And so all
of a sudden we realized they we're gonna punt instead
of go for it. And my head coach like, get
back and catch the punt.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
And I'm like, oh god, oh no, no, no. So
I'm backing up. I'm backing up and snap kicking. The
ball is up in the air, and in my life
it's slow motion.
Speaker 4 (50:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:09):
I make the mistake of looking down to see everybody
running at me. Oh god, And so I run from
the ball.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
I think I just got out of the way.
Speaker 8 (50:19):
We were smart. I just let it hit.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (50:21):
Smart.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
I didn't try to field it.
Speaker 8 (50:22):
And the number one job of the returners give the
ball back to the offense. So I tell my guys
all the time, if you if you don't like how
it's looking, get the heck away. Make a poison call,
point at it, get everybody away.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Peter and ran it's poisoned. Now Peter is Peter bad?
Speaker 8 (50:37):
Now now you can say they say Peter still too,
But a lot of teams say poison.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
We go Peter, And I yelled Peter on myself, Peter,
just I dodn't want, I don't want. Another thing I
did was the coin toss.
Speaker 7 (50:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
I'm pretty smart guy, generally, I think. And so I
go in and I was captain my senior year, and
we go and it's all right, let's do the coin toss. Well,
they flipped a coin, and I remember my coach.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
Being like, all right, we're gonna we want to play defense.
We want to play defense. Uh huh, we're gonna stop them.
We want to play defense. So we go, they flipped
the coin, boom, and uh they win the coin toss
and they defer, and I go, okay, we're playing defense. Now.
What happened is we played defense to start the game
and a half time. And I didn't know that was possible.
Speaker 8 (51:28):
Well, I've seen some mess ups too. I've I've had
a deal we were playing in a in a might
have all been a hurricane, and I said, which way
I wanted to kick? I mean, it's pretty obvious which
way you want to kick. And the poor kids said,
we want to kick that way, right into the middle
of the damn hurricane. So I've been a part of
those things too.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
I remember my coach.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
Got by the face mask and he said, you're one
of the smartest people I've ever coached, but that's the
dumbest blanket thing I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
In front of everybody. It was like silent, and I.
Speaker 8 (51:57):
Was like, you know, nowadays the rest so they at
least at the major levels, they don't let you screw
it up usually that you know. They talked to me,
the coach, what do you think, And I'll say, hey,
I want to defer. I don't know which way I'm
kicking yet, but I want to defer. And if they
screw it up, He'll go, oh, hold it, son, and
they'll look they did do that.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
What was Sam Hunt like as a player?
Speaker 8 (52:18):
Fantastic player, fantastic man. You know, had a little bit
you went to camp, you know, I can't remember if
it was Cleveland or somebody, but maybe Kansas City. Yeah,
just a really good college football player, you know, team
captain type guy. Even even back then, you knew he
was going to be a big time singer. I mean
he'd stand up in front of the team and sing
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and all those stuff. But just that guy, the great
American quarterback, you know, just the guy you wanted to
be around all the time. Loved them to death, was
a great player to coach, you know, it was awesome.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Was he a leader?
Speaker 8 (52:51):
Great leader? Great leader in which every quarterback has to be.
Right now, he was a jokester too.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
So it's not the same. I know, and I know
Sam pretty good. He's not much of a jokester any.
Speaker 10 (53:01):
No, he was.
Speaker 8 (53:03):
He was a jokester. I mean he loved the prank guy.
So our strength coach was kind of this really big,
rough guy and you know he that's all you ever
thought about was weightlifting and all this stuff. And well
Sam called him one time and did a voice and
was basically acting like another strength coach from another school
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and asking him questions. And he was asking the most
of serbs, stuff like you know, hey do you wear
a jockstrap when you lift? And hey do you you
know all this kind of stuff, and I mean, he
had him going for like fifteen minutes straight. You know,
that's the Sam I remember. You know he was quiet,
very nice guy, loved to be around them, but he
had that he had that prankster and.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
That's funny, right, Final three questions.
Speaker 7 (53:47):
Yeah, coach, you have four kids. You mentioned do you
want to play football?
Speaker 8 (53:53):
I mean what they can do whatever they want to do.
All all of my kids. My oldest is academic, but
she's a sophore or University of Oregon. She's my she's
my academic person. It's not an athlete. The other three,
my middle daughter and my twin boys, they're all athletes.
They play whatever sports, football, across whatever's going on in season.
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I've always told them this, I said, you can do
whatever you want to do, but if you sign up
for a sport, or you sign up for a team,
you're giving it your whole heart. You're you're playing the
whole season and that and that's the way it's always been.
A lot of coaches are that way, though they don't
push their kids to the sport. I guess because we
do it for a living and it's just we're around
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it so much, and you know, so I let them
do what they want. To do, but yeah, they like
to be around it.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
What's your schedule like during football season midweek?
Speaker 3 (54:45):
Is it all football all the time or does your
wife say you don't call your coach obviously unless she does,
and that's cool. She's like coach because I travel a
lot and tour and my wife's like, hey, sometimes we
have to focus and remember we're family. Yeah, do you
have to set aside time or is that after football season?
Speaker 8 (55:03):
No? Well, here's the beauty of my job here. One.
When you're the boss and you're the head coach, you
get to do that. I have more luxuries of spending
time with the family. Earlier in my career and when
I was at the big time places the us c's
and the University of Tennessee's, I slept on my couch
three four nights a week. I mean, I literally it
was like a frat house. You just your feet hit
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the floor at five am and you went to bed
at three am. So it was all ball all the time. Here,
why I'm so blessed. It's still all ball all the time.
But I eat lunch with my wife every single day,
you know, so whether it's you know, twelve o'clock lunch,
you know, we we'll hook up, go to somewhere eat
forty five minutes. And this is a great town, Bawling Green,
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so you can get anywhere in fifteen minutes, so that
little bit of time is awesome. My kids come up here,
like my daughter will work out in the weight room,
my boys will work out, so I'd get a lot
of family time in.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
What are you most proud of so far of your
job here at Western Kentucky.
Speaker 8 (56:04):
The biggest thing for me is what we've been able
to accomplish. I've always from a football standpoint, I've always said,
you want to be a part of the national conversation.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
What do you know for?
Speaker 8 (56:15):
What is your brand known for? Well, we're known for
you know, high powered offenses, great quarterbacks, you know, exciting
games to watch, you know, big wins, all those kind
of things. But probably from the personal side of it,
for me, it's when I'm walking around in this town
or our players are walking around in this town. We
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represent the best of Bowling Green, Kentucky. You know, everybody
can look us in the eye and say, hey, they
represent us. You know, they're great people, honorable people, they
do it the right way. So I get a win
win in that area.
Speaker 3 (56:54):
Coach, we appreciate you having us here. The facilities are awesome.
We've been to a lot of places.
Speaker 1 (56:58):
And there are some big time programs that have garbage facilities.
It's crazy. I'm not gonna say it on the microphone.
I'm gonna say who it is, but we're just there
are some that are fantastic and there are some where
you go, I thought this was a major program.
Speaker 2 (57:14):
This is really nice.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah, you get so.
Speaker 8 (57:15):
I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (57:16):
I hope you're real proud of of kind of what
you've built here. But yeah, we appreciate the hospitality. You
get the best mascot in sports behind the razor, the
mascot in sports.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (57:26):
You ever have a color that you feel weird? Don't
say what color, which one, but you coach played for
places you have a color you feel weird.
Speaker 8 (57:30):
In very much?
Speaker 3 (57:32):
So, yeah, very much, because that would be the weird
thing about being a coach is always have to wear
that colors.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
Well, it's like when Aaron Rodgers was in the light
green that was just weird when he was a packer
and that was a different green and yellow. But some
colors just look weird.
Speaker 8 (57:45):
I've been and I've been in some some bold colors too.
Now I've been in a lot of bold colors, you
know of a different program. So yeah, I've never had
that question. But that's a good one. I like that
one for sure.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
I would make my decision based on that. All right,
So I got three offers.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Don't want to wear that.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
I hate Pewter, so I'm not going to go over there. Coach,
thank you so much, really.
Speaker 8 (58:04):
Appreciate I'd luck appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Man, Thank you, all right, thanks Coach Shelton.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
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Speaker 2 (59:12):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
We gotta do our promise bet and if we miss it,
we put ten bucks in. It's one bet. I cannot
use my parley bet because I picked the money line.
It wasn't quite the line. Promise me to bet Eddie.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
I'm gonna promise you guys that I just don't think
the Giants are gonna win another game.
Speaker 2 (59:30):
Like they're just all over the place.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
Their confidence is down the drain, they're not playing well,
and they're playing the Commanders at home. The Commanders are
minus two and a half. So I promise you the
Washington Commanders will cover that. It's always when I think
a team sucks and never ever will win again. I
thought about it when they win. I know I thought
about that, but I can't. I gotta just I remember
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how bad they are.
Speaker 5 (59:54):
I got you Daniel Jones playing.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
That's a good question because he was hurt. I don't
know the answer to that either right now.
Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
I mean, tyro Red is not awful, but just of question.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah, Reid, promise me a game.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Oh yeah, I'm going with the Buccaneers minus two point
five against the Falcons.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
At home Bucks minus two and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Yeah, that's pretty good that I thought about that one too.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
I'm big Baker guy, big Baker guy, big Baker guy, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
I'm going to go with Tennessee at Alabama plus nine.
I think they go on the road. I don't think
they win but they'll cover that plus nine. I'll be
there really.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Yeah, going to the game, going down Tuskie. Yeah, you
going by yourself? Yeah, no you're not.
Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
No, no, oh no, I'm going with two friends girl.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, two girls? Two girls?
Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Are you doing like a Jack Tripper three company where
they don't know you were with both of them one
on one side, ones on the other and you're always
switching sides and hat and you're like oh no, and
you walk over here like in the Alabama hat there,
like they switched out real quick. That'd be awesome. Yeah,
I'm going USC minus seven. It's at USC against Utah.
I think they bounce back. Yeah, Utah's good, but not really.
Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
That cam Rising thing is weird.
Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
It is weird.
Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
What's weird about it? Just like, yeah, there are two things.
The cam Rising is weird. I'm not saying anything suspicious,
but it's weird. In the in Cleveland, that quarterback situation
is weird too. What are they not telling us about
Shaun Watson?
Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
No, I mean they already told us that, but like,
what's what else has happened? I don't know? Me smells something.
Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Fishyh So okay, those are our promise bets were good.
Speaker 9 (01:01:31):
There.
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Okay, let's do let's do this or that and then
we're gonna get close to the end.
Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
Here.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Are you ready ready? Would you rather have all you
guys can play?
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Come on, you have to have one be your quarterback
only for the next three seasons, so we're not letting
age affect anything.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Next three sins Lamar or Herbert, Lamar, Jackson Herbert, We'll
go Lamar.
Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Do you care?
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Red?
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
No, that's all right. Why Eddie?
Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Why Lamar? I mean he's just better than Herbert. I
mean we've been talking about it. We don't know what's
so good about Herbert. I haven't seen anything special. What
makes me think is gonna get better?
Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Kevin?
Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
Same with Lamar. Lamar's is up and down. He gets hurt.
Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Lamar's an MVP tho, yeah, you've seen him. I felt
like a decade ago. That's because COVID happened. Man, you
are you mad at science?
Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
But I'm mad at Lamar for getting hurt all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I would go Lamar, but it's close.
Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Would you like to have a stadium if you got
to build one for your team to be an open
air stadium?
Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Or a dome. Eddie, give me the dome, Kevin.
Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Give me the open air, I mean the fresh air.
Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I'm gonna take open air, but only because I would
only own a team in the South that would be warm,
right well, the weather's good, yeah yeah, but domes domes
are fun. Oh yeah, man, you just have complete control
of your I would go open air, though, who would
you rather have on your team? You get one wide receiver,
Jamar Chase or Tyreek Tyreek Hill Jamar Chase. I would
take Jamar Chase too. Why it's three years. I feel
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like overall he's a better wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Yeah, I think, oh, imagine him in that offense.
Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Tyreek's fast, and Tyrak's top three receiver maybe top one
right now even.
Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
But but you got to put Jamar in the same category.
Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I think Jamar just can do a little bit of
everything as a wide receiver, where Tyreek is not really
going to go one on one at a high ball,
on a fade, or go across the middle, be physical
like Jamar can doesn't always He's He's not DK Metcalf.
I'm not saying he is, but but it's close. They're
both awesome, is why I asked that, would you rather
have Bosa or Parsons?
Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Michael Parsons, Parsons all day? Yeah, take your time on this.
I know they're very similar to me for Nick or Joey.
Who are we talking about?
Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Any both Bosas or a Bosa ball you could buy one,
or a Bosa speaker.
Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I'll go Parsons, that's Bose. Would you rather.
Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Go to a big game, not the Super Bowl, but
like a wildcard game for your team in the playoffs,
or get a new mass of one hundred inch TV
and watch it at home?
Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
You get to keep TV TV TV. Yeah, TV man.
The game experience is it's tough, it's awesome, but then
it's over, I.
Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Know, yeah, and you kind of feel like you're like, wait,
I don't even know what just happened.
Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Would you want to sit in a baller suite with food,
all the TVs done it, the cake thing coming through
cake card all that?
Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Or right on the fifty yard line? Oh, can the
sweep be on the fifty yard line?
Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Cannot like down first row, fifty yard line. I've never
done that, So I'm going to go fifty yard line,
first row.
Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the suite baller everything, free everything,
and we just talked about it. You go to the
game and you still don't really know what's going on,
so you might as well enjoy it and comfortable.
Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
I've done them both, have you which one is better?
Fifty yard line? You know, it's like fifty yard lines
kind of like front row. It's a little overrated. Oh really,
Oh it's awesome, but it's not as awesome as you
would think. I want to go sweet, but you wanted
to tidy r line once?
Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah. Hey, what about those suits that are a field level?
You ever been in one of those? Like the Rams?
Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Yeah, Cowboys, I've been at a Cowboy. We've been too
where the Cowboys are. But a pre game never like
sad in one? As a guest, would you rather what's worse?
Your rival, your main rival winning a championship or you
having a winless season.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Rival winless season? Oh man, that's just the whole season
of just torture. But then you get a draft pick.
Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
There is that, and I appreciate the NFL forgiving us
that because it's always like, uh, okay, we do have that,
But man, it's a bad season when there's nothing going on.
Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I would probably I would rather have my rival win
the championship.
Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
But then all off season you have to hear about
this team winning the championship.
Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
You're right, well, they both suck, dude, don't. Yeah, that's
all off season you have to hear about how you
didn't want a freaking game.
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
We're getting number one in the hot seat now, and
so it.
Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Was a new GM and then the number one pick,
like you never know exactly what we're gonna get exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
You know, I'm drafting Ryan Leaf. All right, here's our
talk with Western Kentucky quarterback Austin Reid. We're on the
field with him prior to us running some drills. You
can watch us on the drills. Just go over and
check out too much access. Austin won a D two
championship with Western Florida prior to his transfer to Western
Kentucky and led the nation of passing last year. He
has almost two thousand yards passing a sixteen touchdown so
far this season. You can follow Austin on Twitter at
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a read three sixty five. Here he is Austin Reid.
Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Quarterbacks and specialists use the same bowl, so like usually
they use like a fatter one because it's I guess,
easier to kick, and they usually don't care really if
it's broken in or anything like that, so.
Speaker 10 (01:06:42):
They like rub it raw. Yeah, like I know, some
kickers like it brand new. I think Tommy, our punter,
likes it kind of broken in a little bit. But
those things, they're freaking basketballs, the walls that they like
to kick, whereas ours are like a lot more like
pointy and got like that.
Speaker 7 (01:06:55):
Now, like a lot of air in the ball, or
you like your flat like Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (01:07:00):
Always is easier to throw pretty flat, but it is.
The refs are old. The refs are a lot harder
on you. You know.
Speaker 10 (01:07:05):
They come in there and check the PSI and make
sure it's good, right really yeah, and if it's not,
they'll pump it up like they don't.
Speaker 6 (01:07:12):
They don't play around about it.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I like my ball nerve oh really yeah? Like like
or like me on, I want to play with my
orange board the tail. Can you ever see one of
those nerve balls?
Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
Just like this?
Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
How far? How far can you throw the ball comfortably? Comfortably?
Don't throw it now.
Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
As far as I have to? Can you? I guess?
Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Can you hit a fifty five yarder.
Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Yeah, I could. I could throw it probably at least
sixty five.
Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Really, yeah, at what age did you start to be
able to out throw other kids where it's like me,
he's got an arm.
Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Really not until like late high school. I was really
like a late bloomer.
Speaker 10 (01:07:51):
So like going into high school, I was like five
't four short kids, short, fat kid, And I kind
of luckily hit puberty and for my sophomore year high
school to junior or high school, like grew seven inches,
got a little taller, finally kind of got stronger and
started being able to throw the ball pretty well.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
If you grew seven inches in that amount of time,
I feel like we could actually seem to grow, Like
that's the like we can literally that's a lot of
growth in the year to that.
Speaker 10 (01:08:15):
It always you go back to church and all the
old people are, oh my gosh, there's so much taller now,
and they're like, it's been two months.
Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
It's not I don't look that much different.
Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
But yeah, being a quarterback at the school who's known
for the quarterback, do you feel a bit of pressure
to maintain what Wku is known for?
Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I mean I feel like it's kind of like the
standards you have to hold yourself to.
Speaker 10 (01:08:36):
You know, it started with really like Willie Taggart senior,
and it's carried over and you've had guys like Brandon
Dowdy who was obviously pretty successful, Mike White who's hung
in the league for a while, Bailey Zappy obviously, and.
Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
So I feel like it's kind of the standards you
have to hold yourself to here.
Speaker 10 (01:08:50):
If if you're willing to play quarterback here at the school,
you kind of have to like be like, hey, I
need to perform.
Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
That's what they expect here.
Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
So it's definitely a little bit of pressure, but it's
a good thing because it's it's kind of what quarterbacks
you are known for.
Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
You describe yourself as a late bloomer, but even in
college because you went to a Division two school and
then you came here, Like, what's what was the biggest
difference in game speed? And also do you still feel
like you're I hate I'm still lamps at blooming now?
Are you blooming now?
Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (01:09:16):
I feel like I'm always getting better and always kind
of getting a better understanding of what it takes to
be a successful quarterback.
Speaker 6 (01:09:22):
You know, I've always kind of been.
Speaker 10 (01:09:22):
A gunslinger and throwing the ball around a lot, and
I take chances and I throw crazy throws, but learning
to take those chances at the right time, learning when
to like take the easy check down, when to throw
a deep you know, I still want to be that
air raid gunsling quarterback, but like at the right time.
And you know, this level has been a little different,
you know, Shuder Sanders said it the other day, and
I kind of agree with them. I feel like the
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biggest difference really is at the offensive and defensive line.
You know, I played a lot of really good skill
players when I was at the Division two level who
are in the NFL, and I feel like the skill
player level, it's obviously not as good, but it's relatively close.
And the biggest difference you really see is in the
front sevens just creature. You play against our every week
are a lot bigger and stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
What's the perfect amount of throws for you in a game?
Do you want to hit forty fifty? Would you like
hit eighty?
Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
I'll throw it as much as Coach hell And allows
me to. I love throwing the ball.
Speaker 10 (01:10:12):
I've had multiple like fifty yard fifty at ten games,
and I love those, but I also feel like there's
a time in the place.
Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
We have to run the ball.
Speaker 10 (01:10:18):
And last year against u AB, I only had twenty
three pass attempts. I don't think I was like a
career low, but we plan for forty. Some people are like, hey,
that's a normal game, but it was so I feel
like there's a time in the place. But obviously, if
he gives me the green light, I'll throw it every play.
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Do you have to wrap your own like a pitcher
at the if you throw it forty fifty times?
Speaker 10 (01:10:36):
Yeah, like I usually, I usually got a ice after
every practice. I guess somebody throws in during a practice
and you know you got a ice. You gotta do
the BFR and on Monday Thursday to kind of keep
it loose is kind of thing before.
Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
It's like this like pressure thing that you put on this.
Speaker 7 (01:10:49):
Stand for big yeah big hefen.
Speaker 6 (01:10:53):
I don't think so. I think it Rea.
Speaker 10 (01:10:54):
It makes sense though, with how almost said damn thingks squeeze.
I thought I'm my fault on freaking cussing. But no,
So it's like we took that from a couple of
pictures in the MLB, and as you see, like with
throwing progression. Things are starting to move a lot more
towards the rotational aspect that pitchers have, and whether it's
plios that quarterbacks are getting into nowadays and rotational power.
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There's a lot of things that football people are starting
to steal from pitching in baseball, and so it's it's
all related somehow.
Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Do you self scout in that you watch and make
sure you're not giving a tails at playing quarterback with
your eyes or anything with your feet that you do
if a play is going a certain direction.
Speaker 10 (01:11:30):
Sure, I mean it's always like always trying to be
deceptive and try not to give anything away. Like you know,
it's like whether it's your wipe and your towel when
you know you're gonna throw, or whether it's how far
back is my right.
Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
Foot every time I throw compared to running.
Speaker 10 (01:11:43):
I mean, you obviously try to not give anything away
and try to like keep it all the same the
end of the day.
Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
They got to stop it though, so they can know,
but they got to be able to stop it.
Speaker 10 (01:11:52):
And a lot of teams know we're gonna come out
here and throw a fifty times and they still can't
stop it.
Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
So it's like there's tails, and there's like tells that
you're trying not to give away, but they all got stopped.
Speaker 7 (01:12:00):
I think about the wiping the hand down.
Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
That's a good I'm gonna tell my son, though, you know,
do you do it every because I like to be
a poker player, so in order for the plays where
I didn't want to have reactions scene, I a woulds
have reaction every time, or I would try. So do
you try to wipe your hand every time? Do you
try to not wipe your hand at.
Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
All or fick his fingers?
Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Then where are you just like like I'm just gonna
always think to do it or not do it, but
do it?
Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
No, no pattern.
Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Yeah, it's just a game you play.
Speaker 10 (01:12:24):
It's always a game that you're playing against the defensive
coordinator the whole time. There's times where I act like
I'm checking the play and I'm telling everybody the exact
same play we had at first, and so now the
coordinators changing his defense up, and I'm like, we haven't
even changed the play at all.
Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
I'm just acting like I am.
Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
So what's the acting like he's changing it back?
Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
Like is you never know?
Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
There is?
Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Yeah, I didn't think about that when with the double up.
Speaker 10 (01:12:44):
Our defensive coordinator has done that a couple of times
for sure against us in practice. But it's always things
like that, or sometimes you'll like like be talking really
loud to a receiver like hey, he'd be ready for ready,
and then he snapped me a hand the ball off
me and then they're like, So it's a little things
like that you try to do, but it's always just
a game.
Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I was watching some of Hard Knocks this year with
Aaron Rodgers before you get hurt, and you know, linebackers
gonna be faking like they're a blitz, faking like and
Rogers just goes, you're not blitzing. It was the player
on the opposite team. You know they were doing those
joint practice. He goes, you're not blitzing, so just stop.
Do you know the defense that well? At times when
you get in the game to know what everybody's doing.
Speaker 10 (01:13:18):
Yeah, you can tell a lot of times when defensive
players are gunna blitz. A lot of times they like
try to play it off like they're looking at the
receiver and they're like trying to.
Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
Almost play like too much. They're really dead, so to speak.
Speaker 10 (01:13:28):
And like they're acting like they're not coming, then they're
gonna come.
Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
So start walking the off the direction. Yeah, I guess
there's nothing to see here.
Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
Some guys are like almost like overdo it, that they're
gonna act like they're blitzing, and then you're like, all right,
I know you're coming out of it, like you're gonna
you're gonna fly out and play into coverage. So it's
kind of just watching film and figuring out guys tendencies
and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
But some guys on defense Tibbot.
Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Do you ever dream of film? Like you watch so
much film that when you go to sleep you still
see it.
Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
I dream about football way too much.
Speaker 10 (01:13:56):
I wish I didn't dream about football, whether you're dreaming
about something really good happened, or you have one of
those dreams where like every single throw you throw only
goes like two yards and you're like, what the heck's
happening to me?
Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
And so in my life, that's solid a dream. Wait,
not too much about it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
So I got this.
Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I love that I've seen that I have, but you
know you're running, you're up for it.
Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
So yeah, I saw something.
Speaker 10 (01:14:19):
I saw something before the year that said it was
like thirty thousand to one odds. I was like, so
you're telling me there's a chance.
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
I don't know, But did they have a conversation with
you the program, Hey, we're really going to push you
for this, And.
Speaker 10 (01:14:30):
Yeah, they kind of like they were out there like, hey,
we're gonna push you for a lot of stuff. We're
going to try and create a lot of publicity for
the program. I mean, I realistically know what the Heisman's about.
I know it's pretty much a Power five quarterback award.
But it's cool to create publicity for the for the program.
It's cool to bring eyes to the program. At the
end of the day, we're always just trying to like
show our brand of football to the country and we
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just want to be in that national conversation. So for us,
it's kind of pushing all that so we can be
in that national conversation. We can have that brand of
Western Kentucky football out.
Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
There, preseason Player of the Year, that's you. I mean
Heisman that no freshmen want it till a freshman want it, sure,
you know, so they're always and let's just say I
put five bucks on thirty thousand and one, I will
be a real happy guy because there is a chance. Yeah,
you feel healthy, you good.
Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
Yeah, body's body has been great thankfully this year.
Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
You get in the ice right after.
Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
We did a lot of the cold tubs in this
in fall camp and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
For this interview.
Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
He's gonna need it after this interview. Yeah, really really
really need after this right now. Yeah, So you don't
do ice after like you don't get a thing of
ice after a game.
Speaker 6 (01:15:30):
Games, I'm I get a little lazy.
Speaker 10 (01:15:32):
I'll usually just throw ice bag on the shoulder and
and roll from there, and then Sunday I usually do
a once of recovery rethink that.
Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Yeah, I say, just awesome to beat the quarterback. It's good,
It's awesome, right, it's a good time. I'm not gonna lie,
what's it like on campus? Gonna be like that every now?
You get it every now and then.
Speaker 10 (01:15:49):
It's probably not as much as if you're at like
an Alabama or something like that, but I mean you
still get that, and I'm not gonna act like it's
not cool to have.
Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
It's awesome. It's obviously fun, you know, to keep the
main think the main thing. But I mean, you know,
I hate it.
Speaker 7 (01:16:02):
Yeah, Allege experiences were not the same.
Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Yeah, And if I was a quarterback in my college,
to you, even if I didn't have a ball with
people to know, I just always be doing that. They'd
be like, why's that guy doing that?
Speaker 7 (01:16:11):
It's a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
It's got to him. Yeah, it's got to be to him.
Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
It's gotta be ham. Well, congratulations on on all of it.
You have a big, big season this year. But I mean,
are you already looking maybe you know, get self and
shamed for the next step. Yeah, that's the plan.
Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
Obviously.
Speaker 10 (01:16:25):
I'm gonna keep playing ball as long as they allow
me to. So keep getting ready, keep putting film on
Todd there. That's hopefully good enough that the league likes
what they see in.
Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, Canadian Football League. Let's get on our boys. Let's
good at the little Argonauts. Baby, let's go. Hey, thank
you very much.
Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Appreciate y'all appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
All right, that's it, Mike, I'm forgetting anything. You're good guys,
good show, good one. Hey, I'm chilling this weekend. We're
gonna buye cowboys are a buy how boys are?
Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
So I may not even really watch football.
Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
I wish we were on a bye it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
One of those things. Yeah, yeah, I bet you do.
I hope we're on a bye. What did you just throw?
Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
You want the funny answer I was gonna say, or
you want to it was actually give me the funny one.
Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
We're not gonna say it. I wish we were mad.
Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
We're playing Missippi State. We should beat them. We're six
point favorite. But I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I am gonna go nice. Yeah. But if well, I
think I'm having a stroke thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
If we don't win, I know it's that I'm going
to this game going please don't lose instead of win,
because it's it's already.
Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Been miserable and maybe that's what the team needs. You
there and think about that, Think about that, that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Give me a headset. Hey, would you watch it from
the field? I have. Oh, I was down there with
you one time. It's pretty Owes.
Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
You don't see much. It's the experience is cool to
be down there. You don't see much. So the last
time I was on the field, we were playing somebody bad.
You know we were bad. They were playing somebody good.
And they can showing me on the camera as being
irritated fan. I'm on the Arkhill sideline like good dad.
Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
They kept cutting to me, same way the.
Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Arkansas basketball game last year week get beat. The kept
going to me as I was sad fan at the
end of the game.
Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
I remember that one.
Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
You're like the Chargers fan the other night that lay
She's real by the way, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
She wasn't.
Speaker 7 (01:18:17):
No, she was real.
Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
But how did they find her amongst all them cowboy
fans there there must have been eighty.
Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
It basically fell like cowboys cowboys fans. Yeah, all right,
that's it. You guys please follow us at twenty five whistles.
Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
Uh go put a comment under the Western Kentucky football
video and Eddie and I'll sign more balls and send
them out. Yeah, we're sending these out from the Kansas
State comments.
Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Right, and that's it. Thank you guys, will see you
next time. By you whistled, I'll whistle you.
Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Oh yeah yeah,
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