25W: Which Program is Hated More: Notre Dame Football or Duke Basketball? + UNLV's Head Coach Barry Odom & WR Jacob De Jesus at the Facilities + Raymundo Joins the Show

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otom Wide receive from UNLV Jacob DeJesus with he's the

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leading returner in the country kickoff return yards. So all
that coming up, but let's get started now with the
tittle tattle, name.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
The tittle tattle.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Let's get up.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
All right.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
Tonight you got Utah and Oregon State facing off and
then tomorrow Colorado and USC in the morning. Are you
gonna finally find out if the PAC twelve was any good?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, here's the thing. They're playing each other.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
It's like the SEC when people go the y SEC's
great or this SEAC he sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
But if the se he's only playing each other.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
You only It's like Ohio State and Notre Dame when
they played, Like are they both awesome? Are they both mediocre?
I don't know, They're just playing each other. What's interesting
for me to watch his cam rising? Is he going
to play? And if he doesn't, Utah continues to win
without their starting quarterback. And he was dressed for part

(01:54):
of the game last night. He showed up, he dressed,
and then changed at halftime, like are they just screwing
with them?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh? Interesting? Well he was ready to go and then
halftime he's like, fine.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
I'm just I don't know if it no, I don't
He was he had it looks like he had pads
on and he was out in warm ups, but then
he changed he was he came out in shorts and
tennis shoes at halftime. So, but they've been doing this
with the second string quarterback and their top ten Why
are you looking at me so confused, Kevin? No, I
just I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't see that.
So I'm just like, it's only only time I would
notice it and it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Are you sure it was Cam in the sweats? Dude?

Speaker 5 (02:28):
He's pretty recognizable.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
You can't, Mike d Will you google and make sure
I didn't dream this up. I swear he was wearing
pads and then he came out. Wasn't wearing pads?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
You just dream this?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I don't know. I could it was his.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
Twin brother who like, hey, dude, come down to the field.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Hangs rising.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
If you talk, and keep winning with the second string
quarterback and their defense is so legit not good?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Excuse me? What? Not good for Cam?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
But but or is it?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
So?

Speaker 1 (02:54):
What what do you mean if he comes back and
they lose with him, is it all his fault?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, I mean if your backup's out doing you go.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
He's only throwing for their averaging like one hundred and
eighty yards a game. So it's not that he's out
chunking four hundred yards and six touchdowns a game. He's
let's call it dil for ring it whenever the Ravens
won their Super Bowls because Trent Dilferd didn't mess the
games up and let their defense score points, let their
defense stop them.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
What'd you find out about Cam not seeing anything right now?
I tell I promise you would happen.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
That would be crazy if it didn't happen, and I
made the whole thing up, which could have happened. But
I don't think we're gonna see anything about it being good.
But I do think the PAC twelve is really good.
It's hilarious, and they're not even gonna exist next year. However,
if I were the Mountain West, I would just call
myself to Pack twelve.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I just switch and be the PAC twelve or however
mey teams are, because that does not exist, so I
would be the Pack. The brand is cooler than the
Mountain West. You and V's in the Mountain West. Yeah,
so they'd beat right, they'd be in the Pac twelve.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
In the other game, which is the USC Colorado game,
everybody is just saying Colorado is gonna get run by
a hundred, which makes me feel like they're probably gonna
not get run by one hundred, that they may actually play. Okay,
USC does not have a good defense. They do have
the greatest quarterback in college, but they don't have a
good defense. And I feel like even though Colorado's offensive
line is not the best, I feel like Shuder Sanders

(04:16):
is good enough to actually score some points on that
USC defense. I don't do not think Colorado's gonna win.
But isn't this probably like twenty something one?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah? I mean Colorado looked like high school kids against Oregon,
So I mean, I don't USC.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
They're not little dudes. I mean, that's a that's a
pretty stout team. I know their defense isn't that great
just from what I saw last week. I'm feeling like,
oh man, I don't know this could be a repeat.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
So you but last time you bet Colorado to cover
correct and they let me down. So I'm kind of
burned by it.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
That's what this is about.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I'm burned by them.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think I'm not betting it, but I think I
might bet it. I think Colorado covers though it's at Colorado.
I think Colorado covers. Does that make a difference that
it's at Colorado?

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, and they have a lot of people coming to
the game. Are you sure it's at Colorado? Yeah? Positive? Uh,
a double positive.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
He's got his eye on the screen, yep, yes, yep.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Ray. What has been your take on Colorado this season?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (05:09):
Last week was really shocking. I mean, the Oregon crushing
them was unbelievable. It was fun. The three and zero.
Now their schedule is tough. But yeah, this is a
really tricky line. I'm avoiding it. I had it on
our parlay, me and my wife's, and I said, screw it.
The plus twenty one. It's obvious USC's gonna kill him,
but are they? I mean, that just happened last week,
So he told me the same thing's gonna happen again
this week, and Vegas is like, Yep, here's your line.

(05:31):
Just go ahead and bet it, same thing's gonna happen.
I think no, I would almost even though it makes
no sense whatsoever. Do the plus twenty one and a
half if I was to bet and I think I'm
going to bet it and take Colorado plus twenty one.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Oh, you're crazy touching that thing.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
And what I do on this show, Ray is I
let every listener know how much money I've bet, every
single bet where I am through the year. It's I
do complete transparency. And so I think I'm going to
bet that nothing like fifty bucks or something.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Hey, just to keep it going. Ray, those numbers are outrageous.

Speaker 8 (05:59):
Well, and I know it was very interested because the
over under it was two and a half before the
season on how many wins are going to get and
they have three and then they moved it to three
and a half. But I mean they're right there. So
the people that bet the whole season are about to
cash out.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
You know, a month into the season.

Speaker 7 (06:14):
There's an extra level of energy of these teams playing Colorado.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
It's like there's like, of course, Deontaders is the greatest
thing to happen to college football in thirty years. Like
if you have Dan Lanning saying like this ain't Hollywood,
This ain't Hollywood. Gavin's creating wrestling storylines. I love it.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
So here's where we are uh total this season? Is
that right?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Sixty five combined bets. I've bet eight four hundred and
seventy four dollars overall. I have a winning between football,
college football, nfl A four hundred and forty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I just heard sixty five bets in four weeks. I
told them to call the number.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
So shoes for NFL on the year on plus one
thousand and thirty nine dollars with thirty five bets ten
times your money and NCAA. I'm down five eighty one,
five hundred and eighty one bucks, but I'm up overall
four to forty five. So I just don't want our
listeners to go. He's telling me much crap, not doing it.
That's the only reason.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Love it. It ain't a flex.

Speaker 8 (07:09):
Love it, yeah, because you if you really watch any
of these shows back I do. I watch it and
listen to a lot of different sports shows, and I'll
write it down. You know, Pat McAfee, he doesn't make predictions,
but he has guys on. I'll write out right down
the two picks that Mike Lenardi or Mike maybe that's his.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Name, Lombardi, Lombardi, He'll give him.

Speaker 8 (07:25):
I think he gave Broncos and they lost seventy to twenty.
So I'm just like, sometimes sometimes you just have to
write down these experts and then go back track on them.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I did hit last night on Detroit minus three and
a half.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
I smoked the way. That's impressive. Yeah, they were.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
I don't know what the game started, but I live
bet in the first quarter it was only like two.
Well I went down to three and a half and
so I jumped on it for like one point fifty
and then fell asleep because I've been exhausted, and then
woke up. Didn't watch the game. I just felt like
I just felt like they were gonna run, and they did,
which is great. So did you guys watch another game?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I turn it. That's really dude.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
I'm kind of big on watching ends of games, like,
all right, you know, let's just see what happens.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
That was the first time. I'm like, now, Sam, Houston
State was playing on another channel, I'm like, let me
watch that. You flipped Yeah, okay, next question.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Okay, the two schools are set the face off on
the football field on Saturday, Notre Dame and Duke. Which
program do you think is hated more Notre Dame football
or Duke basketball.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
That is a great question.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I'm just gonna go Duke basketball because they have had
a consistent head coach who has been the face of
the program. So to know them is to hate them
and to know them as consistency. So coach k being there,
I think their fans are a little more obnoxious. I
think they've had They've won more consistently as well over

(08:43):
the last twenty five years Notre Dame football, so it's
easier to be a real dick whenever you win. But
I'm gonna go Duke basketball is worse than Notre Dame
football and just leave it there because their Dame footballsappoint
so much. Duke has number one recruiting class in two
recruiting class even though the don't win national Championshi, so
we got to hear about them winning something all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
True. Notre Dame has kind of become a joke.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You know, with Ryan Kelly there.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
They did make it to the playoff and they but
there there was a lot of run in between where
they just were not good.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
So I'm gonna go Duke is hated more. But let
me ask you us, who do you hate more. I'm
gonna go Duke just because there's nerdy, rich kids.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
I like, Oh, the rich part's big, but Notre Dame's
rich too, But but it's not presented as that. That's
a great point on the nerdy shut up like the
rich part, though.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
When they show the crowd, they just look like, what
are you doing? Get back that you were just studying
five minutes ago?

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Go back now.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
I don't mind that part. I don't you got Notre Dame.
They've been drinking all day. Like that's my kind of people.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, what do you think, Kevin?

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Honestly, I don't hate either of them, and I've never
hated either a Red Sox fan because they get so
much hate and I'm just like, I kind of go
against the green.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
No, you don't.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
You're on a team that's hated, so you know what
it's like to win all the time and be hated
for it.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, so I love it. Grain interesting that's you're one
of them.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Because it makes everybody else mad when they win. Some
I'm all for it.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
It must be nice to have winners in your just
your life. He's a Red Sox fan and a Patriots fan, but.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
He's been California. It's all confusing.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Okay a couple of years, Raymond, Know who do you
hate more? I hate Duke?

Speaker 8 (10:11):
It was they were always good when we were growing
up and Notre Dame Christian school, good Christian kids, Catholic.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
And also, and here's another reason it's easier to hate Duke.
You know their faces, so imagine the player and you
can go through fifteen of them. You know them because
they play basketball and they don't wear a helmet, so
you can associate like A J. J. Reddick, who I
love now but didn't didn't like him, A Duke loved them?

Speaker 1 (10:33):
You did it? Duke?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Oh yeah, I love them and I love them now,
But then I was like, I don't like this dude,
or Christian Latner or but we know.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
What they look like.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Have you ever, like, not liked or hated a Notre
Dame player, right.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I No, I just felt bad for yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't know any of the Notre Dame players really
seventies who knows all? Right?

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Next up, current three point underdogs on the road in Buffalo.
Do you think Miami is still getting disrespected?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Buffalo's really good.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I was watching I got on a TikTok rabbit hole
of watching Mike McDaniels and how he was running all
of his motion from inside out instead of outside in,
and how it was affecting the linebackers and coverage, and
how they scored so many points. Let's say there are
three wide receivers that he lined up on the left,
and I'm trying to picture it. That farthest left receiver
who's off the line. They would then send him out

(11:29):
toward the sideline and make one of the defensive backs
of the linebacker's move, showing not only man coverage, his
own coverage. But then they would start doing the guy
in the middle, and if a linebacker had him and
the linebacker would run well the outside guy. The motion
would be so quick the outside guy would go with
them as well, and it would leave Tyreek open in
the middle.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
It was interesting.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
It's like I was watching a masterclass. So I don't
think it's the Dolphins aren't getting respect. I think the
Buffalo is really good. Josh Allen's gonna plany great again.
I also, I just still I feel like to it
he's just gonna take a hit don't feel like he's
just sensitive.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
You canna get hit, get a concussion again.

Speaker 7 (12:03):
You can't get respect in like two weeks, you know,
like you have done.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
The Bills have earned our respect. But the Bills they
beat the Raiders in Washington.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
Well, this year is a little different, but the last
four year years they've gained our respect. The Dolphins like,
all right, you've had a good start to the season.
We're in Week four. Who wins that game?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Haven't said that Miami. I think he made a good point.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Without that, it's like, Miami, there's no disrespect, but it's
not like we're gonna respect you for always being good
if you haven't always been good.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Correct, true you say, Miami.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
I'm gonna go with Miami too. They started hot last
year too. It's all about to.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I'm gonna go.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
I think Buffalo wins this because Miami just scored seventy.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Then got anymore. The breat the Raymond you.

Speaker 8 (12:46):
Yeah, the NFL is a really big flip flop waffle game,
and I just feel like Miami played so good. I
would easily go Buffalo this week. Really not betting it,
but that's what I would didn't have waddle last week. Right, Yeah,
he's back. So I mean they you would think in theory,
oh they should. I actually scored more than seventy, but
that's not the case. There's only one ball to go around.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
If they could like three balls at the same time,
but like a Chane awesome. But now they're talking about
and the Jonathan Taylor trade sweepstakes. Miami's like one of
the top two teams. How many running backs? You can
only play a couple only one ball? You got most
of a Chane and Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
And people are saying that the running back physicians like obsoletely, well,
it only is if you're not using it in a
way where you're also a receiver.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Okay, are you playing a Chane this week?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I picked him upside him.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I drafted him Eddie smart enough one of them.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Before the season started, he was like, I wanted a
Chanine you picked on and I was like, I'm want
to hold him. Wasn't a big I watched him at
Texas A and M and knew of his lightning, so
I didn't know if he even get to play because
he's small. But I didn't trade Eddie for him, and
I'm happy I did it.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, you offered me that trade, and Eddie didn't take him.
I didn't take it. I did offer for peers too.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Oh my goodness, Houston's peers.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
I thought I was smart. I did offer him a trade.
EDI's just scared of every trade because he thinks everbody
trying to get.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Him no week one, week one trade. I'm a little
weary of Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
If you guys are playing saying a chain, then you
definitely don't have that great of fantasy teams.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
I got him just chilling on my bench. I don't
think that's true, though, But what do we know Miami?
Does they just split? They just pluit carries. I mean,
he's a backup.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
That's what I'm scared of me. I don't know if
I'm gonna start yet.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
But he's not there.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
But but he's not there running back anyway. He's playing
running back. But it's not like they're putting him in
to actually run the ball twenty five times. They're putting
him in at the running back position to run at
eight and to catch probably six or seven passes.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
See, the catching is huge in fantasy. So if the
guy's catching, maybe you do then there you go. Then
you probably should start him but also if you probably
should do anything fantasy, well be wrong. That's all right,
so you never know.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
My wife wins.

Speaker 8 (14:37):
Who was the worst team? Okay, perfect, I'm gonna do
a defense against them. Oh great, they played great that week.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Great. Oh you guys still play defense in your league?

Speaker 4 (14:42):
We got we credit kickers, but defenkers?

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Is that good?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
You got rid of kickers? Defensive kickers? We cut?

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Interesting?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
I don't know. Our league is so stupid. The defense
that gave up seventy points.

Speaker 8 (14:55):
The Broncos still got ten points because their kicker got
a kick return touchdown. It's worth fourteen points. Interesting, and
I played them, but thank god we did beat him.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I played.

Speaker 8 (15:04):
They still got positive points and they gave up the
second most points in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, that makes sense. That's a terrible commissioner of a
terrible league. Then speak, I know what you're talking about.
Speaking of what uh why did Miami not go for
the extra three points?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Humiliation factor that that would have been a humiliating to
kick a field goal and to set the record that
they're to simply set the record.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
That you'll probably never ever get close to it again.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I don't think that was what McDaniels wanted to do,
and they said.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's the trophy he doesn't want. He's going in endgame.
You can get both. Sure, what's wrong with I don't
understand this.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
I think just the unwritten rule of if you don't
have to punish someone, don't punish them, but you have
to understand their backup quarterback came in and through two balls,
just through two balls and through two touchdown passes because
the defense already been like a screw it. So it
wasn't like they were gas gas gas pedal, gas pedal.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
Yeah, but in thirty years they're like, oh wow, they
hold the record. Cool, who was the coach McDaniels, that's
awesome Like that forever you'll go down as that coach
that scored seventy three point?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Who was the coach that scored seventy last time?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah? Well talked about record. There go ahead, Kevin next buck.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
Last one here with a dominating win last night in
Green Bay. Have the lines officially taken over the NFC North.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
The Vikings are oh and three. Kirk Cousins has more
pass yard than anybody else in the NFL. Justin Jefferson
has more receiving guards anybody in the NFL. The Vikings
are still oh and three Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Not losing games?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
What's crazy? Nothing great, but the Vikings are not winning games.
Last year, all those games they lost for one one
score games they won victories. Yeah, and now it's kind
of catching up with them a little bit. The Packers
are two and two after losing Lston. I still think
the Packers have a shot. Obviously, Jordan Love is pretty good.
The Bears, I mean, I think the I know everybody
hates the Bears, think they'll be the worst here. I

(16:47):
think the Bears win this weekend. I think the Bears.
They're in disarray. They had a coach get the FBI
come to their house, go through and yeah what yeah,
look it up.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Not good, not good, And I'm gonna zone out for
a little bit. Let me research this.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
I think the line what's crazy is the Lions were
playing as a different type of team. They've always been
the underdog to hear the Lions of the favorites, which
they were going in as well in that division. But yes,
I do think they will win. But if they officially
taken over, I'm gonna say no. I think the Packers
still have a shot even though they lost last night.
I think all four of those teams are still in.
I know everybody hates the Bears, and I'm probably dumb

(17:23):
as a rock for saying that.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
I don't hate the Bears. I just don't think about them.
I ever all right, Thank you, Kevin. That's still tattle.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Name the Tendo Tottle.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
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Speaker 1 (17:44):
Here is the parlay of the week. This is the
what let me get my count up. You're gonna write
down the note like Ray does. I'm gonna bet it. Yeah.
I feel pretty good about this one. Make sure you
get those lines. Yeah, I feel pretty good.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Utah is getting another point since the line time we talked,
which is good.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
That line keeps moving. I like it.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
So Utah plus four and a half got it, South
Carolina plus twelve got the glove on, and Alabama minus
fourteen and a half. So you'll be able to find
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parlay of the week. I feel pretty good about it,
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What's that pay? Eddy? Gosh, man, I can't find the
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(18:47):
betting on it?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
So?

Speaker 7 (18:48):
I did ten dollars and it pays ten dollars, will
pay you sixty eight dollars in ninety eight six smiles.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, there you go. That's close.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Now we'll get the head coach of UNLV, barri Otom coach.
Odum was head coach at Missouri, then defensive coordinator at Arkansas,
and now he is the head coach at UNLV. I'm
going to say we went that it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's great. He's awesome. Their facilities are amazing, it's super cool.
Coach otems.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
You follow how on Twitter at coach Underscore Odom and
here he is coach of UNLV. Coach Bary Odom coach.
First of all, when we pulled up, I hope this
is a compliment. But your facilities here, not that I
knew what to expect, but they are amazing, very nice.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, they had a vision on what they want UNLV
football and athletic department to be, and they sit out
and got it done. And this is one of the
nicest facilities in college football. And it's a football building
that has everything under one roof, so it's so convenient
for a student athletes right on campus, and it's a

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wonderful place to come to work every day.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
When you recruit a kid and you're also working with
their parents, obviously you got a couple people to commence.
I feel like Vegas would be either awesome or difficult
because it is Las Vegas, or maybe a combination of
the two. Do you kind of have to look at
each individual kid and kind of understand their values and
how you need to approach Vegas with them.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Absolutely, and it recruiting is relationship building, but also there
is a space for everybody here as much as you
want to be in the entertainment, the food, seeing the concerts,
the sports mecha of the world that is all here,
and you can get away and be in a mountain
in thirty minutes going on a hike. I've embraced the

(20:39):
opportunity to sell Vegas because there's one in the world
and we're going to use it. And I think you
look at how does that fit for a student athlete.
They look at the opportunity of what this place can
turn into for them.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
When you say student and student athlete, because there are
so many resources here and culinary for example, food, I
mean if you wanted to because not all kids.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Get to go and play professional football. Obviously, there's probably.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
A lot of avenues if you go to school here,
in the relationships that you can make in the different
parts of Las Vegas, that you could turn that into
a career as well. I think the moms and dads
would probably like to hear that too, right well, the
service industry here, our hospitality school is the number one
in the world. But then you look at all things
that are here.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
From everything on the strip, the Gaming Commission, there's an
avenue to create your future, whatever your interest is. And
I think that's interesting for us to be able to
sell not only as a university but our city together.
How we collaborate and make it work for every individual
kid we have.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Do you also have to have a like all hands
on deck meeting with freshmen going Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
You're Vegas.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
There's a lot out there, Like you got to chill
a little bit too, because it can be overwhelming.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
The education piece is really really important because you you
can find trouble if you're in Las Vegas or Faye
of Arkansas or Memphis, Tennessee. If you want to find
those things in any college town, you can find it.
But we talk a lot about what do you want
to be, what do you want your career to be.
We're going to graduate from college. But then if you're

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really invested in being a great college football player, then
here's the path you need to go. And there's times
that I want guys to enjoy all the things that
are here within reason, but also, you know, big picture,
let's look at how important it is step by step
to stay on track.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
When you were the head assistant or whatever the term
weather arckets on defensive coordinator. It wasn't like you were
out a head coaching for very long, but a few years.
How many years were three years? Yeah, So it's not
like you were in prison for twenty and you're out
and you're like, look at the billboards, they're electric. So
but was there a change with being a head coach
from three years ago to today?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Absolutely changed. It's changed.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
The landscape, in my opinion, has changed dramatically. When I
was the head coach at Missouri, my last year as
the head coach was twenty nineteen, and then the three
years in failable we didn't have an IL well, some
people had it. This wasn't legal at that time, so
that transformed. The portal was not you know there was
you couldn't transfer unless you were a grad transfer. So

(23:22):
I think the education piece for me is a head
coach to see how we navigated through some of those
things at Arkansas planned and helped me because I knew
I'd be back in the chair again at some point
and it gave me the opportunity to see it from
a different lens.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Is there a like an investment in the relationship with
the player that you do not get to commit. Let's
say they go and they hit a different school, so
let's say go to USC or they go to UCLA.
But you've spent a bunch of time with them recruiting
in and it's still valuable because if they do change
their mind, because now the portal allows them to, if
they say it's what they want to do, they can leave.

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Is there always like I'm just gonna possibly fight for
second place too?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I think the general you're absolutely right. The general principle
in my belief is if you really think the kid
is a fit for your program, always recruiting and never
you're going to come in second or third at times.
But another year from then he may come calling back

(24:23):
that he wants a change of scenery, and he liked
the relationship we had and there was a common ground
for whatever that he was looking for, that he had enough.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Interest he would want to maybe come back. Here.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
We were driving in and we just grabbed a car.
We're talking to the driver. I like to kind of
talk to folks in each area to see what they're
passionate about, how they feel their temperature on even the
sports programs and the guy was born and raised in Vegas,
which is kind of a unicorn because most people come
in and said, so you and know the football fan goes,
massive UNLB fan, and I said, so, how do you
feel about the program? He goes, think the coach we

(24:57):
got now? Yeah, I think we're you know, I don't
know him very well, but think we're going in a
good direction. He goes, but we we just haven't won.
We have been a bowl game in forever. Here just
talking about five wins? Fine, so can you win here?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
And I think, Bobby, I think we're going to win
at a high level. I don't think it's a five
year plan. I think it's a right now plan. The
mission is to compete and win championships, and there's no
reason we can't do it here.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
You guys play Michigan and you lost the game, and
I don't know, Eddie and I were talking about it.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
You lost thirty five to seven. I don't seem that bad.
I'll back coach.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
I know it sucks to you, probably because you're the coach.
You lost thirty five to seven. But we were looking
at we just stats and the offensive philosophy, and we
probably weren't doing that Oh yeah, now we're buying, we're.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Just actually looking at pictures. Sounded good. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
When you play a team like Michigan and you lose
thirty five to seven at the end of it, but
you're like, oh, thank god, it wasn't like one hundred
to nothing.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
I thought we were going to go compete, which we did.
You know, we went to win the game. They are
built like a playoff team. We're not yet. I think
they're twenty eight and three in the last two years.
They're a really good National Championship contending team. And I
told the guys after the game, that's the standard, that's

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what we're working to get towards and to let's learn
from our mistakes, let's correct them, let's try to improve
from week to week.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
There's going to be.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Times through this process that you run into a Michigan.
I think it's always good to see where you stack up.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I felt like, and I watched a lot of the
game as I went back and watched it on ESPN
seventy two wherever the app is. Again, I didn't feel like,
you guys look completely overmatched. I just felt like, eventually
they were just bigger and faster, but when you finish
a game like that, and I know moral victories are
not a thing. Did you have confidence in your guys

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more so?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
After that game?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
I thought we made improvement from week one to week two.
Week one we played Bryant University one big Week two
kind of opposite.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Ends of the spectrum, and I thought we made improvements.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
You always want to win, like we're talking about, but
we made a big jump in how we performed from
week one to two, two to three, And now the
challenge is to do that every single week.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
You got a Vanderbilt program that came to town. I very
much improved Vanderbilt program, and you guys beat them. You
were not the favorite going into the game, you end
up beating them. So were you able to take stuff
from that Michigan game?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
And then what have you been doing?

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Have you been getting better at that the first three
or four games this season to you know, as you're
trying to get to you know, hit that high.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah? Three quarters the way I.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Think our practice habits have aligned with giving us a
chance to play winning football. I did, and I started.
I told the team early in the Vanderbilt week. I
watched as much film as I could watch and I
told them on Monday of that week, I said, we're
the better football team.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Did you believe it? Or do you say? I absolutely
believed it.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
And I've got a lot of respect for coach Lee
and what they're doing, and I think they're going to
win games this year in that compens But I felt
like we had matchups that we were better in and
I thought that if we would go execute and had
a really good week of practice and those habits aligned
the way they should, that we'd have a chance to
win the game. And our kids played extremely well. We've

(28:14):
got a little edge to us, which is good. We
have a long ways to go. We understand that I
think our margin of error is is zero, Like we
can't go turn the ball over three times and not
getting any back and think we're going to win the game.
But it's not that good yet. So we understand special
teams we've got to be We've got to be really
really good in special teams, the hidden yardist battle, we've

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got to win those. We can't turn the ball over
on offense, and then we've got to be opportunistic and
get it back on defense, and if we do those things,
we'll have a chance in every game.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
How do you split your time in the rooms. You're
a defensive guy at heart, but there's you got a
lot of you got lineback ground, but you also got
wide receiver rooms and full offense.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think you know, I've hired really really good people,
and I'm not too proud to say that that I
made mistake, and you learn from room mistakes. When I
was the head coach before, I tried to do everything,
and you know I'm not good enough to do that.
So now I just called touchdown plays on offense everyone, which.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Obviously does are all yours like that?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
And then the defensive side that's you mentioned it. It's
kind of where I grew up, So I spend more
time with those guys. I feel like I'm more valuable
in that room offensively. I want to at least know,
you know, it'smatically what we're doing where I can hold
the conversational game to him, maybe provide some insight on
some things I see just from a defensive lens.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
But again, I think we've hired really really good people.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
It's my job to build them up and empower them
to do their job and try to help them any
way I can.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Coach I've always had this theory of teams that come
to Vegas to play have kind of a disadvantage because
their players kind of go wild they're in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Maybe they go out, some of them do some stuff
down late. Is there an advantage?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
You know, we play an Allegiance Stadium, which is obviously
one of the finest football facility in the world, and
right now I'm selling it to our team. We're two
and zero in that building, so we're creating a little
bit of that feel that yes, it can be. It
can be a huge advantage for us. Whether it's the lights,

(30:16):
the attraction, the palm trees, the desert, whatever it is.
I think it could be huge for us. And there's
space in Vegas for a great college football team.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, you means like the guys going down to the
Tropicanic coach like there, Bold and nut like. You know,
it's like what James Harden would, you know, go out
at the met game and go to a little club. You know,
it's a good city to add them. We heard about it, Yeah,
so we allegedly. But if I were a team coming
to Vegas or like going to Hawaii, the whole different environment,
I definitely want to experience that.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Maybe pass out some vouchers, like you want to taste it,
you don't want to drink it. Right, I'm thinking if
I'm a coach bringing a team in here, I'm on
edge because I'm thinking about the what ifs and then
you get into that. You know it's different, but we
need to use that as an advantage.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
For sure. You're in a ten six hundred? Is that true? Downhill?
I don't do that. Don't do it. Bring wind, we
don't do it. Come on, don't I mean I could run?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I mean I was blessed with speed, and yeah, was
in a great high school athletic process.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
It's pretty fast in high school. In college, what position
did you play?

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I played running back in high school and linebacker, and
then I went to University of Missouri. They recruited me
as a running back. That lasted about three days. And
this is awesome. Our head coach Larry Smith, what a
wonderful man. He called my dorm room, his secretary did
and said, hey, you need to come see coach Smith.
And I was like, I haven't skipped class.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
I don't know if that's in trouble. Yeah, immediately, so
I walk into his office. He's got glasses on down
and he looks through these glasses. He's like, are you outam, Yes, sir,
and he goes, hey, you're moving to linebacker this afternoon.
And I thought it was, you know, a great running back.
And I was like, do I have a vote? And
he said no, yes sir, and I just stood there.

(32:06):
I was kind of like, wait a minute, what just happened.
He goes what he said, do you have something to say?
And he said no, sir. He goes, okay, there's the door.
So anyway, then I moved to linebacker started four years,
so it was a great move.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
He obviously knew what he was doing. So how quickly
did you get to play? From the day he said
we're moving into linebacker? So you actually got in a game.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I played in the first game of the year, and
then about game six five or six, I got my
first start and started every other game in my career.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Did it feel natural? And are you happy now that
you were able to make that transition?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, you were forced to make the transition. No, I think.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Obviously they knew what they were doing. I was, you know,
a much better defensive player then a running back. And
I think probably in the world of coaching that helped
me a great deal. Just a little bit of both
sides of the ball. But then the understanding of getting
your best guys in the right spots, how important that
is if you had to move kids. We have, but

(33:03):
I've taken a little bit more of approach of asking them,
you know, and giving them the picture on the reasons why. Well,
maybe because if you're not into something, you'll never reach
your potential. So I think you know it's wise if
you have conversation, you look at it and explain to

(33:24):
them the reasons why you want to do something like that.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Your son is a really good high school player. He's
here with you, Now, what's that dynamic for him? What's
that dynamic for you?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
It's probably really difficult on more that I think, maybe
on them. Our oldest son is a freshman linebacker here
at n V and that.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Was your running back first, and you said no at
the door. All right, there's the door. You're the linebacker now.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
But it's been I've never had a chance to coach
my own kids, and I wondered how it would be.
And I've told him, so, you're going to hear a
lot of stuff in the locker room either talking about
the head coach, which and that happens to be your dad.
He's like, I've heard it all my life. I'm good dad.
So he's handled it in a wonderful, unbelievable way. And
I've got a son that's a junior in high school

(34:10):
that's a quarterback, and in the city everybody knows, I mean,
he's a good player. So luckily he looks and acts
and has the athletic ability of his mother, so he's
got a chance. They both have grown up in it.
They hear in the stands, you know, every week about
how bad your dad either sucks or how great of

(34:31):
a coach he is. It kind of depends on the results.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
When you have young children, is that something you have
to talk with him about, because again, you you're a
famous You're a larger than life figure to a lot
of people. You're someone depending on I mean at Missouri,
even at Arkansas now here, people have a lot of
opinions because they love the University of the program so much.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I wouldn't want it any other way because if there
weren't people with opinions, you would you would not have
fans wouldn't be the passion that makes up what college
football is. I think the family dynamic for us, you know,
their earliest really memory. We're in the SEC and that
was a good training ground for them, which I think

(35:15):
will help them for the rest of their life.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
So what's what's what's the ceiling? Are you going to be?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
You know, I'm really excited about the opportunity to build
this into a national brand. I don't see any reason
in the world now, after being here for nine months,
why we can't turn it into an elite program. They're
expanding the playoffs to twelve next year.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I believe that's where your mind is. I like that.
So it's not you're just trying to win the conference
because of twelve, because you do know if you go
undefeated you can get in as a non powers on it.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
There's going to be the winner of the Mountain West Conference.
You're going to be in the playoffs. Selfishly, I won't
leave a legacy here.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
It can be done.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
We get to write our story and there's resources here
to do it.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
That's the vision. I feel like the twelve team because
four was cool.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
I was happy to see it, but I like twelve
and eventually it'll be sixteen, probably, But I feel like
that gives fan bases and some of the G five schools,
like Real hope that they also can be in the
mix because they deserve to be in the mix.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
My last year I was a DEFENSEI cordator at Memphis
and my last year we won the conference and we're
really good and if we would have been in, if
we've been in twelve playoff teams that year, we would
have been in, I believe, And I don't know at
the end of the year, I don't know if there's
anybody in the country that wanted to play us.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
It was Dangela Williams on that team. He was a
little bit before then.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, but that is exciting and you can recruit to
that and you build your program with a chip on
your shoulder on.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
That's what we're going to go do because now it's possible.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Was Norville he replaced us, Johnny, I knew everything except
when you were there. It's all free when you're all around,
every part of it except for your apart.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
You were getting close. If I could to let you
keep on talking, you would have hit it. Officially like
shots on goal.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
You may not know this coach, but I'm also a coach.
I coached my son's nine year old basketball team, and
every time we score, it's like, yeah, we celebrate, we
did it. What's up with coaches that can't celebrate a touchdown?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
You have a straight face. I don't know what is that.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Have you seen me the last three weeks? You're almost yeah,
just slightly pulled the hamstring, celebrated. I mean, I want
our guys to play the game with emotion and energy,
and I mean if you sit there and can hide it,
then that's great. Everybody's got to be their own person.
But I'm into the game. I mean I think I

(37:48):
look at a little bit too. Through experiences, I can
take some of those moments and really appreciate them. You know,
we had discussion this year as a group of coaches
because now they're doing interviews at the end of the
first quarter and into the third quarter, and some guys
are like, oh, I'm too focused.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
That's great, you can't, but come on, seriously, every TV
timeouts now like two minutes and forty five seconds. If
you can't take twenty seconds to do an interview, I mean,
you can give coaching points during those TV timeouts, and
then you're sitting around, Okay, what do you do for
the next minute and thirty seconds? You're just trying to
keep them focused. I think it's perspective. I love the

(38:31):
emotion of the game. That's the way it should be done. Yeah,
in in my small world.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Final three questions, what if you have to go to
the bathroom? Do you ever just do that question? Can
you just leave durning a game?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Or have you just done it on yourself? Well? Yeah,
they don't look too closely. Yeah, why I didn't wear kakis?
You know you could go in the medical tent on
the sideline. Do they turn it up though? Just wait, wait,
there a toilet in there. You just you could make
it work the grass. Yeah, all right, they pulled the
ten down to the big pile of poot, Like, what
just happened?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Why did it?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
No? I mean, I guess, I guess you. This hasn't
so you never had to go to the bathroom in
a game. No, they've been like I got it run
out at halftime, Like, man, I need to sure that
did not in them. No, it hasn't hit me in
the moment.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I know it's gonna blame me if this doesn't work.
Asked to go if you see me spread all if
I see you go with that tank. Coach, just gonna
know what I know now my final two questions.

Speaker 7 (39:25):
Yeah, coach, So if a player screws up, would do
you like during the game, would you rather you handle
it and talk to him or would you rather the
offer the OC or the defense coordinator deal with all that?

Speaker 1 (39:36):
You know?

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Really, I look at there's going to be mistakes in
a game. The only time that I really get frustrated
is it is it something that's a lack of effort
or something that just mentally not focused where they need
to be. And I'm not a yelling, demeaning coach. That's
not my style. They don't want to make a mistake,

(39:58):
So find out, Okay, why did it happen, and then
let's get it fixed. Don't let's not have it happen again.
If it's effort based, they won't be in the game anyway.
We don't really have those issues. But I mean, I've
made plenty of mistakes in the game as a coach
and player, so correct it. That situation is going to

(40:18):
come up again if you build them up they'll I
have a chance to go make the play next time.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Last question, I don't want this to sound creepy. I
like a leader like that album as it usually does.
It's like when someone goes no offense, but you're often offended.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
The truth always comes up for the word. But no,
I don't want to sound creepy. But like, are you
like ripped in shape?

Speaker 8 (40:37):
Now?

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Like what's the deal?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
You look good?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
He wants to take your shirt up, like do you
have you been? I'm not kidding, coach you want? But
as soon as I walk that's very nice. I've seen
him like yeah a year, yeah, so what's the deal
with the city? Has been great to you? Dehydrated so much?
Are you working now?

Speaker 4 (40:52):
Like?

Speaker 1 (40:52):
What's it's?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
That's very kind of you. I've still got a long
ways to go. I want to coach because I don't
really have any other hobby. I love my family more
than anything in the world, but like hobbies, I want
to coach for a long time, and I think the
way that you can do that is number one, you
better be able to win games.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
But the health side of it.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
The really if you don't care take care of yourself,
you have no chance mentally, you have no chance and
the season is so long that you've got to plan
on what does that look like? What works for you?
And I've shed a few, I've got a few more
to go.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
How about me noticing that you look good? Were you
creeped out at all? Coach by that question? I kind
of liked it? Yeah, good, good good.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
You know, I kind of like it to this and
I held eye contact the whole time, So you know,
lessense here, that's right. We're rooting for you, coach. Really,
thanks Pella, We really are rooting for you. For you
in the program. And you know, the first thing, even
off the mic, we were just talking.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I don't think you, OK. Care I about I say this.
You're like, there's every opportunity for us to win here.
That's what you said.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
The resources are here, Uh, the ability to you know,
get good coaches here, and so I know you're gonna
do it. And I'm super excited to see what you
guys do this season and maybe that driver next year
we get them again, he'll be like we made.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Our first freaking Bowl game. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Cocha.
They give me time. Thanks you guys, Great to see
you next up.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Is the nation's leader and combined kick return yards. Jacob DeJesus.
You know this guy, not a big guy, no, but
quick as a mother. Mm hm you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
quick as a mother as a mother.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
He transferred to UNOV from Modesto Junior College, incid impact.
Not only returning, but he's catching balls every week. You
he's three and one. I hope they win this weekend.
Big fan, big un OV guy.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, yeah, rebels.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
You can follow him on Twitter at Jacob Dehesus twenty
one to keep up with the season.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Here he is Jacob DeJesus. What's the board and stage
back there?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
The board right there? Yeah, footballtop performers. So yeah, like,
how do I get up there?

Speaker 1 (42:52):
What do I gotta?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Like?

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Have a bench press?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah? Bench press, squad and clean power Clean. The dogs
are up there. They put their names and stuff on there.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
So I'm just gonna be honest if i'm because you
can tell that work.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
You look at it like dude's rid. I get it. Thanks, sure,
thank you for saying that. You didn't say that though, No, No,
they wanted to.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
So I probably bench. Now when you bench, now, do
you do a one press max or is it like
a three what is it?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
What's the rule?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Well, yeah, sometimes we have a three rep max or
five rep max number one. Uh yeah, sometimes we also
do go for a one rep max too.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Yeah, I can one rep max about two thirty okay,
which which you don't have to laugh. Yeah, I'm on
all the older little thin I get it. But if
I'm one rap, I said two thirty, and I could
probably squad like three ten once and so then I
probably clean no terrible cleans like je my arms or

(43:50):
like bad rist I say that, yeah, bad risks. Yeah, yeah,
like one eighty five. Okay, all that combined, So would
even combin if we put all those into a number.
Is there any way I can make that board on
any of the lifts, like even a bench press.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
I think you said top dogs. Yeah, I think you
probably might be second to last or dead last.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah yeah, I like that all of those.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yeah, so I wouldn't even make So there's nobody on
the team weaker than me in any category.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
The kicker so on the kickers is so many kickers
are actually really explosive. Any they're pretty strong.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeah, Why I just saw the board, thought maybe i'd
have a shot there be pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Ify up there. You're having a heck of a year.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I mean, thank you, it just started, but yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Three games in as we're speaking. Now, that's it's a
significants when that ball is just punts. First, when the
ball is in the air and you're watching the ball
come down, are you ever looking at also to see
where the players are coming at you?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Or is it only the ball?

Speaker 2 (44:56):
You got to keep your eyes on the ball, just
like baseball, because if you take your focus off the ball,
you know, you know you're gonna get distraction. You could
lose track of it and drop it, you know, and
that's all bad dropping the ball. You don't want to
do that. So, yeah, you kind of just see them
out of your peripheral or you kind of like have
a sense of feeling of how long the ball is

(45:16):
in the air, and you could kind of just sense
the players, you know, coming, so you know, if you
feel that they're right on you, you're gonna want a
fair catch. But if you feel like you have time
to escape and get out of there and you want
to catch it and get some yours.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, I imagine it's such a fine line between escaping
get out of there a fair catch though, and your
mind are you ever just undecided?

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Like, yeah, definitely. I feel like last game, I was
definitely you know, I was in that situation. I felt
like I could have took it, but at the very
last second, I you know, called for a fair catchus.
I felt like one of their players was super close,
like right here nearby me, So I fair caught it,
and then my coach came to the sideline. My coach

(45:57):
was like, good decision. He was like, he should have
took that out. All right, Next time, I got to you,
what's the rule if you are backup?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
So if you're the when you're standing at the five
or to like walk me through that.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Our rule is we're gonna stand at the eight and
not back up. So what we try to do is
if the ball is kicked over your head at eight yards,
you're gonna want to still look up and act like
you're gonna catch the ball. So the defense, you know,
is a little distracted by you because you don't want
them to touch the ball grab the ball when it's
at the two yard line. That's tough for the offense
to get out of the you know, that's a tough

(46:30):
spot for the offense to get out of. So you know,
if it's over or if it's above the eight yard line,
like the ten to twelve, we're gonna want to fair
catch it. Catch it right there. That's a better spot
than on the five or the two yard line or
on the one. So yeah, if you're on the red
zone punt and you just don't want to back up,

(46:50):
stay on the eight and just don't back up.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
How risky is it if the ball hits the ground
and now you got to make a decision because footballs
are oddly shaped, Yeah, kind of can't put it the balance? Yeah,
what goes to your mind? Can you judge where it's
going to go? Or are you just praying to god
it lands in your hands.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Like a Sometimes it's praying to God, you know. But
we try to squit, stay square with the ball. But
just like you said, it's a football, is oddly shaped.
It's unpredictable. It can go. There's no real way of
really telling where it's gonna go, like off the balance
because of how it's shaped. But yeah, you just want
to stay square with the ball. About a good five
yard distance man, Hopefully you get a good bounce.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
You're talking about acting, you know, like the ball you're
gonna catch all.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Can you overact a little bit? Like can you be
like oh yeah, like you got to practice on acting.
How are you gonna do that?

Speaker 8 (47:39):
Right?

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Our coach tries to tell us to keep your eyes up, like,
don't take your eyes like off because once the defense
sees that you're not looking anymore, they're gonna start looking
up to see where the ball actually is. But if
you keep your eyes up, they're gonna think, Okay, he's
really about to catch it. But yeah, I've played with
it a little bit, especially in junior college. I would
run start pointing at the ball and the defense. It

(48:00):
attracts the defenders a lot of the times and the
ball goes on and it is also Yeah, you could
definitely overact it, overemphasize it, and it usually works out
pretty well.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
There's a play that betting gains my team that I've
seen it. It's all on the internet.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
It's embarrassing, but I believe the guy made it from
Texas State. He's taking a punt.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Uh huh. He does not fair catch it, but he
catches it and just stands. Have you seen that?

Speaker 4 (48:25):
Yeah, I've seen that, and then everybody thinks he fair
caught it, and then he takes off and scores a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
That's the bravest thing I've ever seen in my.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Life, really really brave, because you got to have some balls.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, I man, he could have they asked you to
do anything like that?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Could you know they have? They have never asked me,
would you do it? I think honestly, I think I
might take my chance to do that, But I think
I would come back to the sideline and get yelled
at if I ever tried it again. But I think
that's a very risky move, very risky because you know
it's it's high risk, high reward because if you sit
there and act like you know what I'm saying, you

(48:58):
did fair catch, and they run over to the sideline,
you have them free train to run. But yeah, man,
that's a risky move. I don't know like that. You'd
have to pay me some money to do that.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Honestly, you ever get you ever get the timing wrong
and you don't call a fair catch and you catch it,
and as soon as you catch you just laid down.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
That has happened to me before, not at this level yet,
but that has happened to me before in high school
and junior college. You know, thinking that you have more
time than you do. As soon as you catch it,
you get hit, and you know sometimes it happens.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
But uh, yeah, what's the key to catching a punt?
Is it not to use your pads? Is it to
just adjust accordingly to whatever the ball is doing. Sometimes
you do use your pads.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Well, the first thing you want to do is you
want to get square with the ball. If it's behind you,
you want to make sure you turn around or run,
and you want to get square with the ball. You
don't want to catch it outside of your face over
here or out here. The best thing is to keep
your your hands up like I would say about eye level,
keep your elbows in because if your elbows are here
like that, a lot of the times the ball just

(50:01):
goes right through.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
The catch you at the basket. Yeah, so you're not
with your hands at all like a receiver.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
No, definitely not. We actually get yeoed at if we
catch it like that.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
Your stomach though a little bit, and it hits your stomach.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
You look at him and look at you, look at
look at whose stomach. Is that I'm asking. I'm asking
for myself.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
No, I don't. Sometimes do it maybe your chest, but
not not really your stomach, Maybe your chest sometimes. Yeah,
but you want to try to catch it like in
the in the basket, like he said, right right right there.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
When you're playing wide receiver though, and there's a let's
say it's a it's a go route and it's a
ball that's up, do you sometimes have to remember I'm
not catching a punt. I now have to catch it
slightly different.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I never really get confused like that, but you know,
I can see the confusion sometimes that people may have.
They're always getting told to catch like this. Yeah, that
never really happens to me.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
What's the difference in a kick return and a punt return?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
They're very similar, actually, but the kicks are different. Usually
a punt is like spot the ball will be spiraling
like a like a throw, and a kickoff will usually
be spinning like back and forth like that. So I
would say kickoffs are definitely easier to catch, but you
catch it the same way as you would a punt.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Does the guys coming I feel like the guys coming down.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
On kickoff coverage team have more room to run before
the hitting starts. Where on the punt tam maybe you
got gunners, you got people blocking at the line. Yeah,
so it's kind of a mixed bag of who gets
their win. You know, every freaking Budy's coming down on
the kick. Do they hit harder on kickoff?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yes, definitely, they definitely hit harder on kickoff. I would
say usually it's bigger guys too on kickoff than on punt.
So but yeah, like you said, they have they get
a ten yard head start and are usually yeah, ten
yard heads start and they're coming down the field flying usually.
But our coach has a good blocking scheme, you know,

(51:53):
set up for us so that I can have time
to catch it and you know, get some positive yards.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
All right, final three questions. I want to move over
to the receiving part of it for a second. When
you catch a touchdown pass, that's awesome, right, Yeah, I
mean that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Definitely.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
It's just like if I I would do immediately start
working or something in a flag. Yeah, I wouldn't mean
to do it, I would It would just take over
my body. Like how cool is it to catch touchdown pass?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
It's It's insane. Especially when it's like in an important
game and in the midst of an important game, Uh,
catching the touchdown pass like that, It's it's it's an
amazing feeling, man, amazing. I wish I could do that,
especially it's a play that you guys been practicing, you
know all.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Weed, do you ever hope like plays because you don't
ever know if it's coming to you and like you
may be the first option, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Are you just like, come on, I just want to
be the option. I just want to be what they
call plays.

Speaker 7 (52:43):
They don't say like, all right, it's coming to you.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
No, I didn't know that. I didn't know that, like, uh,
you know you football, that would Yeah, That's what I'm saying,
like mad and I'm like, hey, I'm going to you Jefferson, Yeah,
I do that good. No, definitely not. The quarterbacks can't
you know, predetermine who they're going to throw the ball,
who's based off you know the looks of the defense
and you know the pressure that they're getting, who's open.

(53:06):
So when you're running a route, oftentimes you know you
don't even know if you're gonna get the ball, but
you know you run as if you are. Once you
get the ball every time.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
Hey, so, yeah, the other day, you had a hell
of a run, man, Like you were like right there,
I got you at the two yard oh man, Like
what happened?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I don't know, man. A couple of teammates say, I'm slow, Man,
I don't know what you know you were gonna get
got or is that a surprise? I mean I knew
they were definitely coming. They were chasing me. I do
hear that? No, I didn't hear it. Just I actually
like saw on the jumbo trucks running and I seen
that he was coming behind me. But I also seen

(53:46):
that I had a few blockers next to me. I
thought they were one of them was going to stop him.
I always tease him about that. But so when I
seen him, I actually started running kind of like the
opposite direction, and it almost worked. He started like stumble
a little bit, but he dove out and got lucky.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, lucky, he got lucky.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I could have stayed on my feet, man, I was
two yards away.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
What do you think when you get out from that?
Are you just like god? Man?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah, exactly, I'm feeling like man, that would have been
the coolest thing ever and now it would be it
was still kind of cool, but that would have been,
you know, an amazing experience to score that because I
think it's been twelve years. I heard some people say twenty.
I think Mark told me twelve. It's been twelve years
since the kick retire has been scored for U and LV,

(54:34):
So it would have been amazing to you know, break
that record.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
But man, yeah, thanks for reminding me. Yeah, the next
year champions. Okay, So final question. Making the jump from
junior college to here, we are un LV Division one
G five school playing big school. You've been playing Michigan
and you're playing Vanderbilt. What's the difference in speed and

(54:59):
how quick were you able to just feel like it's okay,
this is every day now.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Yeah, I would say the I got adjusted to the
speed pretty well at this level. I feel like the
speed is a little different, I feel like, but it
also isn't. At the same time, I think football is
football everywhere you go, maybe you know, at any level.
I think the NFL is off obviously on another level,

(55:25):
but you know, I could definitely feel like it's it's
still the same, like it's football is football. And but
I would say the things that people are a lot
bigger at this level. Like you said faster too, but
the yeah, they do. But the bigger, the biggest thing
is people are a lot smarter at this level. I
feel like, you know, and reading coverages and defenses was

(55:49):
something that I didn't have to do in high school
or in junior college as much. So just getting used
to that at this level is a big thing because
it's not just your athletic bility athletic ability on the field,
because everyone here is an athlete at this level. Everyone's fast,
everyone's not everyone's big, but you know, everyone is smart,

(56:10):
and the people who are smarter those are the ones
who usually excel at the top level because it's all
about you know, reading the defenses and you know, seeing
the different coverages or vice versa, reading offenses and seeing
you know, the different looks and executing it.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Final final question, I lot it because you leave the
nation right now.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
In these categories, it's power turns, kick returns, like I
would just want to go if it was close. I'm
just like I'm just gonna go because I need I
want to get one to stay up at the top,
like I want to get on the board back there, right.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Yeah, so the same thing. I would be like, all right,
I gotta I gotta keep leading the nation. So I'm
gonna get how do you not think about that?

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I tended on really think about it as much. I
really didn't even know that I was, you know, in
that statistic category until you know, UNLV posted it and
stuff like that. But yeah, I tend not to think
about that. I tend to just listen to my coaches
and you know, focus on you know, just getting yards
from my team or just making the play for my team,

(57:03):
and not really focus on individual things like that. It
is a cool, you know, accolade to have, but it
could be gone next week, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Not if you run every time, that's what it would
never be gone. All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You know, Well, we try to implement a play each
week for you know, to get big returns and stuff
like that. And I think coach shebas Is, I honestly
think he's the best special teams coach in the nation.
So you know, we have a very good coach that
just you know, not just trusting him and his plan.
And I feel like they you know, vice versa. They
trusting me and give me the keys to drive it, so.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I appreciate that. Congrats on good you guys.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
You guys who was interview so well.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
I'm about to catch some punts like this. Yeah, me too.
You guys kept talking about the pots act of looking out,
like what are they looking at? We were actually we were, Yeah,
feeling that good to see you. Thank you very much
as you thank you.

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Speaker 3 (59:18):
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Speaker 1 (59:19):
All right, This player and music Eddie have a question.
Why don't you do that disclaimer like recorded. I mean,
you nail it live, it's awesome, But why don't you
just record that once so you don't have to do
it all the time. I don't know, it's amazing, it's
amazing how you do it. Oh thanks, Like I've tried that.

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I did that for a commercial while back, and I'm like,
not just save it for the Yeah, I did it
like one sentence out of time. Then I would all right, stop,
cut edit this part. Nice work.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Oh thanks man.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
I appreciate that also too. I had another comment, Yeah,
these gloves. So we've gotten to go to these colleges, right,
gotten some cool receiving gloves. Everyone wears gloves out there, right,
like linemen everyone, not everybody, But.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Different kinds of gloves too, different textures on them.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
When you put these gloves on ray, it changes your
whole idea. On Odell Beckham in the One Handed Cat.

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They're a little sticky. Yeah, I'm telling you. I go home.
I say, boys, I'm an idiot. I throw my boys
a football.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
I say, hey, you think you knows like Odell Beckham
with because you have a glove, you're an idiot broke. Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
I love you though, but you're an idiot. Get that
football and throw it to me.

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
We'll do this next, next, next visit we do. We
gotta test still because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Again you're all talking about velocity from an NFL quarterback.
You're talking about guys in front of you trying to
smoking mirrors. Man, I'm telling my boys, there be ten balls.
All of them are caught, worn nine year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Uh guarantees for the week. Kevin read us arts real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Okay. We had Reed who's not here.

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
He had Colts minus two, okay, Eddie Cowboys minus seven.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good luck, dude.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
I had Georgia minus fourteen and a half and you
have Arkansas plus six and a half.

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Raymond, do give us a guarantee? Yeah? College football Kansas
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I like that.

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Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
We got everything.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
I also want to say shout out to Kansas State.
More talk about that next week. There were the greatest
experience cool Kansas State. I'm big fan rooting for Kansastate
football like crazy now and Eddie blow us and we'll
get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
You got it. Here we go, all right. We'll see
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