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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is a podcast called twenty five West Stocking way Off.
And they were a whistle. Yes, too bad, but what
did you expect?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's a podcast called twenty five Whistles twenty wine. Weady, welcome,
there's the whistle.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
We have an eddio.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What number this is?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Seventy one?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
God dangry twenty five to seventy one. We're not even
official right now. Look at us, Look at us. Mark
Kester coming up in a little bit. At Mark kester Scher,
we'll talk about the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
He is, he's the main guy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
He's the national ESPN guy who covers all the games
and ESPN radios. Coverage of Game three on Wednesday begins
at six thirty pm Central, NBA Countdown errors at six
thirty pm on ESPN and carries over to ABC at
seven pm, and then the broadcast is seven thirty on ABC.
So Mark Kesterscher coming up, and I got a lot
to talk about to Mark or with Mark. Also, I'll
say this, it's not here for the show, but Eddie
(00:58):
is working on something on the computer here.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Out here for this podcast. I'm working, man.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Did you hear this? What were you like, did you
hear sports?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It was the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Playoffs? Hilarious?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Were you not here when we did those?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Do you guys still use my Dallas Cowboys clip?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Everyone by the Cowboys story comes up?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
How about them Cowboys? We haven't ready? I love that.
I love that?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What are you working on videos? Working on videos? I'd
like to show this morning?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, okay, cool?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Yeah, but I mean, you guys, I'm at my desk
and you guys just come in and act like I'm
not even working here.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I never left, Okay, whatever, So okay, cool, thanks Eddie.
All right, let's go to the Tittle Tattle. His name ever,
the Ttle Tattle.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
I've seen two guys lead their team and you'll, Kitchen Butler,
Who do you think of when you think of the
single most memorable playoff run in NBA history?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I probably don't go back like a encyclopedia. I think
a lot of hardcore NBA fans do, so mine's probably
in the past twenty years or so.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Whenever Dirk and.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
The Mavericks won that and nobody expected him to, like
he had to carry that load.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
He really had.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean and I think he averaged probably around thirty
points a game that whole series, and they did. They
weren't expected to win that thing at all. I remember
the flight with Cuban and the trophy on the plane
on the way back, and I was super excited because
at that point in my life, that was the Lebron
villain season because that was Miami, right, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Was Lebron Miami. That was I didn't like Lebron.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Lebron was a villain to me then, So remember that
because I was rooting so hard for the Mavericks and
I'm not a Mavericks fan. I just was a Miami
hater because they team those three together and it seemed unfair. Now,
everything good eventually turns bad, turns good turns bad. I'm
the biggest Lebron stand you could possibly be.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
He's like seventy years old. He's still probably better than
ninety percent of the league. I think he's better than Jordan.
If I had to pick one of them again at
their rookie year and go, this is the guy is
on your team, I'm taking Lebron every single time. I also,
I'm not gonna fight you because I don't care that
much to be right, But I would take Lebron so
he's been awesome a villain awesome again, but in that
(03:23):
one villain season, I would put Dirk and the Mavericks
when they won that title.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That was a fun one.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I also watched Mark Cuban.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
On SmartLess, the HBO show where they do a documentary
on the SmartLess Live tour and Mark Cuban's one of
the guests. He comes out and because they don't tell
the other two. There's three of them on the show.
There's Jason Bateman, there's just Jack Sean Hayes, and then
there's Will Arnett. It's these three guys that do a podcast.
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One of them books to guests, the other two don't
know who it is. Oh, it's how the podcast works too.
But on the live show, same thing, and Mark Cuban
came out and hung out with them for a while.
And it's funny that one of the guys only knew
Mark Cuban from basketball, one of the guys only knew
Mark Cuban from Shark Tank, and one of the guys
just kind of knew him from all But that's also
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a guy who has become wildly famous from being an executive.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, one of the more well known owners for sure.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
I mean he's up there with the Jerry Jones as
far as like the basketball compared to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I just remember him in the plane with the trophy. Yeah,
with a big cigar. So I'll go Dirk twenty eleven.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Next question after his release last week, where do you
want to see DeAndre Hopkins go?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Where do I want to see him? God, I think
it'd be hilarious if being back to the Texans. You know,
for a minute, that was the thing, like, he may
go back, It'll be hilarious. The thing I worry, I
guess I don't worry because I don't care enough to worry.
The thing I wonder about is how much does he
how much elite does he still have in the tank,
because I think he can still be a really good receiver.
(04:55):
I think he can be the number one receiver on
a team that doesn't have a number one. But I
think if he goes somewhe where let's say he goes
to the Eagles, which there's been some talking to him
going to the Eagles. He's not the number one, no,
so and can he and does he want to embrace
that role as not the guy.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, he's one of the guys, but he's not
the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
If he goes to a team that's probably a Super
Bowl contender, I think he could probably go to the Chiefs, though.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I feel like Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I feel like Mahomes like Peyton Manning, like when you
have and this is no offense to these guys, but
like an Eric Decker, like you could go through some
of the Colts wide receivers that never were that good
after they left Peyton Manning because there's a lot of
those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I feel like Mahomes can do.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That with wide receivers as well. And I think if
Hopkins went to the Chiefs, he's better than just a
random dude.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He can make good.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I think he's a pretty good dude. He can make great.
I think if he went to the Chiefs, man, they
would be he just freaking legit. If can they afford him,
will he lower his rate? We'll say, to go to
the Chiefs. How bad does he want to win a
Super Bowl? He's ring shopping, right, that's or he's money shopping,
but probably ring. He's probably ring shopping.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, you would hope.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I wouldn't want to go to the Bills if it
were me, because it's just too cold. You hate the
I hate the cold, man, I hate the cold, and
I wouldn't want You're gonna go from Arizona to Buffalo.
Screw that. If you were a jet, if you were
a panther, I could understand that shift. If you're a
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freaking Arizona Cardinal and you're gonna go to Buffalo, Nope,
my blood is too thin for that stuff. So I
think it would be cool if he went to the
Chiefs and Eagles are already so good like at Chargers.
Would be fun for me to see him go to
the chart. He wouldn't be a number, But those receivers
stay hurt so much. I know, it's just like spinning
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the wheel of who's gonna be hurt and hopefully you
get two of them in a week. Yes, but I
would like to see him go to the Chargers because
I would like to see them win and be competitive
and have to hear people stop talking about how they
should be winning and they should be competitive. So I'm
picking the Chargers if it's me. And also it's not cold,
you know what I Yes.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Next, we went golfing last weekend. You saw my struggles
with the driver, So I was wondering, which club do
you hate to hit?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Hit the least?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Are you getting your clubs today?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You are get your clubs to day, big week that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, what is today? Tuesday? Tuesday? And that's exciting very.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Kevin's getting some some cobras and we're doing a little
series and he went and got fit. And you did
struggle with that driver.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I've always struggled that slice, man.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, I mean I struggle to We all struggle.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Eddie's here too. Eddie struggles more than anybody, Probably not
as much as you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh your MIC's alone.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, man, just sitting my desk working, dude.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You know what club do you hate to hit the most?
Because mine's a five iron, because it's my longest iron.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't mind hit the driver. I can rap.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I can knock a driver most of the time. Half
a mile pretty good. Yeah, hybrid's pretty good because it
basically a driver just without a tea. I get to
that five iron, I pitch your wedge sandwich.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
All good.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Once the iron start to get longer. My five iron
is the worst club it's so weird.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
They say, like, hit the long iron's how you hit
a short iron, but it's not possible.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But your body never tilt. Your body is totally yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And so I would say four iron for me.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
However, I've figured out a little hack lately that I'm
It's changed my game because usually if I'm like one
nighty out, I don't have a club for that. My
three would probably goes like two ten or whatever. So
one nighty I'm stuck. But with that four iron, that's
the yardage.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Man.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I flatten it out now, almost like it's behind my
back foot back so flat, and I swing almost like
I'm punching the club, and the ball goes. The ball
goes about two hundred and one ninety yards and it
stays low and it rolls all the way, but it's straight.
So that's I think that's how I'm going to hit
a four on from now on.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Now you don't have a club that you can't hit.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Listen to this guy right now, have is its worst
is now his favorite?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Man, I love it. His weakness is now his strength.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What's the worst thing about you that I care too much?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's a job in what you just did right there.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Next question, you were at.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
The College Softball World Series last weekend and you've been
to the Super Bowl. What's a sporting event on your
list that you haven't been to.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I've been to the World Series when the Cubs lost
to the Indians and the game. They ended up winning
the World Series that year. But it was awesome even
though they lost. It was game two, I believe two
or three, and they lost a game, and that part sucked.
They end up winning the World Series is amazing, amazing, amazing,
and just that even that night, even though they lost,
it was such a cool night.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I ranked that.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Higher than a Super Bowl, but probably because it was
my team. Yeah, honestly, the women's College World Series is
a series of games.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's like two weeks long. There are eight teams.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You make it to the College World Series, they're eight
teams and you're playing double emination bracket. There's two winners
come out of the bracket and then they play. You
start from scratch and it's three Like right now, Oklahoma
and Florida State are playing because they come out of
the both the different brackets, and they didn't matter if
any of them want or loss.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Once you get out of your bracket. You start over.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I will say that I think going to women's college
softball is better than going to men's college baseball if
you're just going for a team that's not yours. More energy,
more action, it's just a more fun experience. The crowd's
into it more now if you're going for your team.
I'd really go watch Arkansas baseball, which let me down
big time. They lost to TC.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They got twenty to five. You got hit two grand
slams back to back innings innings. He had a grand
slam the first inning, grand slam in the second end.
He hit another home run later in the game. They
beit US twenty to five.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And then we're winning.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now working out yesterday, we're up four to two, and
like the sixth inning, I was like, fight, thank god,
we're gonna win this game. Go to the rubber match,
get out of here, go to super Regionals. Now they
end up pounding us. It's terrible, So I go World Series,
Super Bowl. The women's college World Series was really cool.
I wish I had a team in it, but I
did have family coaching two teams. I've been to Omaha
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for the baseball the College World Series Baseball. I've not
been to an NBA Finals, been World Series.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
What if I know?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I guess that's the only thing. I don't want to
go to a race car. I don't want to don't
care about going to a race car. What if you
call it Matt nat NASCAR race car. I don't care
about racecar.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Okay, World Cup, that would be cool.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I feel like we get trampled, like all of a sudden,
I'll get trampled by all the people that love souce soccer.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
People are too passionate for me. How have you been
to like a US Open something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I have.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I've golf for tennis, sat tennis, like for erotic I've
been to events. Yoh yeah, I went to the US Open.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
He called me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I was like, I'm about to retire. You have to
get up here. You're right, dang. I forgot about that.
But the problem with that was because that's in Flushing Meadows,
and so you said, it's like a forty minute car
ride from the city in New York, and it rained
the whole like we and so there's no roof on
that thing, and they kept canceling matches.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'm just stuck in a hotel room.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So I don't think I got the real US Open
experience there.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
What about like the Masters?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I've been I cannot believe I've been to all this time.
But if you start to say it, holy, I got
a pretty blessed life here. I bet everything but NBA
Finals game. The Masters is cool.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I went with Roddick.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I have price said this before, but is me and
him and John Legend together in the house and we
were just betting on a part three. They were just
golfers to come up hit. We bet who gets the closest,
and then they kept elevating their bets and I was
not the place I am now financially, and I was like,
I'm out of here, man, I can't bet with these
guys anymore. But it was crazy. It was a lot
of fun, and Masters was cool. Number one is going
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to be the World Series. Number two is going to
be the Masters. Number three is going to be the
super Bowl. Number four is going to be the Women's
College World Series. Number five is going to be the
College World Series, and number six is race car.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
All right, what do I want to go to? Wimbledon?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Would be cool, but I don't care about me tennis
players anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't really have anything I want to do.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Man, this is good. I like this because I now
I got to realize I'm very lucky, fortunate to have
done a lot of this stuff. I never put it
all together.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No desire to go to NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Game seven though, Okay, I went to Game three in Oa,
Lakers Celtics in LA and it was cool. Celtics lost,
but it was great. But I've been the World Series
as well. The World Series was definitely way.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Better World And we're in Wrigley Field and it was
so packed, it was so dense with people, and still
everybody was in the best mood.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So yes, I would like to go to Game seven.
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no National College foot
one national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh, good call. That's it. I haven't been to that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Good call because I won't go unless as Arkansas. I mean,
I couldn't have DraftKings like we'd like you to go.
I'd go, but college for one national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That my answer? Rub it up, stupid in his name
the town tunnel.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Let's get up, all right, let's go to our boy Keester. Sure,
He is from ESPN, the national voice of ESPN Radio
cover in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Here he is Marcstershire. Hey, Mark, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Hey, what's going on? Hey?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm a massive fan. I think you do such a
great job.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
At I'm just honored to be on with you. So
it's a complete other way around.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, I appreciate that, like you're the best at it,
and you know, it was kind of before we start
actually talking about like the main thing and making the
main thing the main thing, like when you cause your voice,
like you're so good at it and you have the voice,
Like I was always okay at it, but I didn't
have the voice. But what was like your first like,
you know, entry way into being a broadcaster, did you
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because I did Division two basketball and football, did you
do high school? Did you do small colleges or anything?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You know? I what I what I did was I
took my tape recorder up into the I was at
Syracuse University as a chemical engineering major, and I decided
this is what I always wanted to do, even though
my parents, you know, were like, no, enough, Broadcasting's not
the route to go. And then yeah, I did small
college D three D two D one, and then I
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kind of gave up on the dream while I was
doing studio stuff in Albany and Cleveland, and then when
I got to ESPN, I just kept pounding on the
door and finally got a shot. And I don't know
how I'm here right now, to be honest with you.
It took a while, but I got here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I know why you're here, because you know, the cream
always eventually rises. But when you go to ESPN, when
you're hired at ESPN, what was your job description for
what you were going to do.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Initially when I was hired there, it was to do updates,
you know, they call them Sports Center updates for ESPN
Radio every twenty minutes. And I swore that when I
told my wife, I said, I'm going to be working overnights,
I guarantee you, And they said, no, You're going to
be in the evenings, you know, from seven to midnight.
And I was thrilled. Game Night was a big show
back then, you know, as ESPN was just getting into
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twenty four to seven radio and so you know, top
of the hour, twenty pass forty pass, I would do
two three minutes sports updates and it was about a
year after that that I filled in on our Major
League Baseball coverage, being the pregame host, postgame host, and
the guy who was in charge of that was in
charge of play by play. And that's how I kind
of maneuvered my way after a number of years.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The hardest thing for me was I would travel and
do football play by play and we were home. I
had a color guy that was with me. Now again,
we're Division two in a small town in Arkansas. Nobody cares.
But when the color got was real fine. But I
would travel and the school didn't have any real money,
so they would send me by myself, and when we
would get beat like seventy to three, it was miserable
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calling a game. So do you have like backup plans
for if for some reason the game is stopped and
you just have something you can start talking about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah. You know what's funny is all the days in
between games, or the week in between a football game.
I put together this massive chart, color coded every thought
that comes into my head that just in case we
get seventy to three, you know, what do I want
to talk about? What's the most interesting thing I want
to talk about? And then of course most weeks, you
(17:15):
just leave it on the table you got a good game.
But I always like to have a game plan, what's
the biggest thing we want to talk about big picture
and then kind of dial it down. And the nice
thing is with all the analysts that I work with
over the years, try to have a lunch, have a dinner,
pick their brains, and it always turns out I'm working
material because that's the stuff I go to when we
have a bad game.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Do you get to or how much access do you
have because now you're covering the finals, but how much
access do you have to players or coaches to kind
of understand their philosophy about the last game or the
game coming up depends.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
On what sport we're doing. The NBA is for me
since I'm on one of their top games every week
or two games, we always have coach access, which is
great where it's just our little ESPN radio unit for
ten minutes. Today it'll be Eric Spolstrap from the Heat,
Michael Malone from Denver, and then in the finals, you know,
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we'll expand to a player or two each where it's
just the five or six of us in the room,
and you know, sometimes you have to navigate. Most times
you have to navigate through the coach speak, but every
once in a while, you know, we've built a good
trust with many of the coaches, and they will trust
us with information and you can disseminate some of the
stuff that you know, maybe is right up on the
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edge of what's good for on the air, what's not
appropriate for on the air, and you just have to
kind of figure it out. But we get decent act.
We had great access in the NBA, for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Tell me about Spoe for a second, because I'm unfairly
when he was coaching Lebron and Bosch and Wade all together,
You're like, well, they win the titles. Obviously they're gonna
win the titles. He's gont have to be a good
coach to do that. But now he has ascended to
one of the best coaches in the NBA, or at
least that's what everybody's tells me. And I think what
he's done with the Heat this year has been an
example of that. But what does he like to talk
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to And after you spend time with him, do you go, ah, yeah,
I get it now.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
You know what we kind of figured out early on
the late Great Doctor Jack Ramsey, who was so special
to this league into this game, had known Eric since
he was a young boy, because Eric's dad was an
executive with the Portland Trailblazers where doctor Jack was in
the late seventies, And so we got the sense early
on that even as a twenty five year old video guy,
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you know, video room guy, that he just understood the game.
And I think, you know, when Lebron comes and you know,
they're in the midst of a nine and eight start
and there's this big mailstroom as they go back to Cleveland,
You're wondering if pat Riley's going to descend back from
the front office. He had so much trust in Eric
that he let him ride it out to four straight
(19:51):
title or four straight championship series in two titles. And
he's the same guy. I mean, he just gets it.
He has a knack. He's good at also not divulging
what he wants to do. You know, he will make
sure that if you get a little too close to
the X and zero, he'll divertue in a certain way.
But when the cameras are off and the lights are off,
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you know, you can get a little quiet time with
him and maybe get inside what he really wants to
do if he trusts you, which he does with our crew.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I've been able to watch a bunch of some summ
Denver games at the time zones a bit later, and
I have League Pass and so i'd watch some Jokic games.
I don't think I was as clueless about how good
that he is, like a lot of my other friends
are casual NBA fans, because I do have the League
pass that I watch.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Do you think if the league voted for MVP after
the playoffs in the finals that he would have won
the third MVP in a row.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I think it would have been a landslide. I am
one of the voters. I don't know if there's one
hundred or one hundred and one voters, and I voted
for Joker last year in an incredibly tight race. I
thought MBA could have won it this year. I was
also confronted with we've got three great centers. If you
want to include Giannis in that position, who do you
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vote for? And it just felt like with Mbeat's closing
run and the fact that you know I shorted him
last year, I voted for Joel Embid. I still feel
fine with that as a regular season vote, but your
point is well taken. He's in a time zone that
a lot of people don't stay up. I'm a league
pass aholic like you, and now to see it up
close every day. We were on the Western Conference finals
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as well. You know he's going to be one of
the I don't know if I say top twenty players
of all time in this league. And yeah, if we revoted,
I think I think the Joker might be a three
time MVP.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think what hurts him too is the same thing
that hurts Heisman candidates to play in California is that
we don't get to see him as much if we're
on the East Coast or Central time zone, and because
we're not constantly exposed to them, they don't really exist
as much to us, so we're not as passionate about them.
I know it happens with Heisman voters. Would you say
that it a bit has hurt Jokic?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I did think a little bit. But I think also
is he doesn't look the part. I mean he doesn't.
When you look at him, He's just so massive and
even though he's you know, sculpted his body, if I
want to put in quotation marks. You know, he's done
a really good job of getting in great shape. Is
you know, it's just not sexy what he does, and
clearly it doesn't move the needles nationally, you know, like
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the big brands do. But when you watch him day
to day, it's hard to imagine a guy where you
can throw, you know, multiple defenses at him, you can
try to change things up, and he's always going to
make the right play. You know. If he's got guys
with him who can hit shots, you know, it's almost
impossible to defend. And that's what we saw the other day.
Like you know, Denver didn't make all the shots they
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made in Game one, and even though you know, tons
of credit to Miami's defense in the game to win,
and I think they're going to try to do the
same type of stuff to Jokic. He's just so devast dating,
especially you know during a season. You know, series are
different because you're just adjusting, readjusting, whereas you know teams
are coming in on a back to back into Denver.
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You haven't seen yoke at you all year in the East,
and that makes it so much harder to defend him.
But he's just He's just incredible. He's a different look
and I think this is the big stage he needed
to kind of put himself out on that pedestal.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Are these European guys a bit more cerebral at just
basketball in general?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
In your opinion?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
You know, I think I think we're evening out a
little bit. But I do think the last you know
from Dirk Novitski on where the skill set, the drills
they do at earlier ages FIBA being on a you know,
a shorter clock than college. You know, in high school,
they're making decisions a lot quicker. I think that is
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a benefit to the Europeans and to other parts of
the world that they're thinking the game a lot differently
than you know, the North Americans have been. Although I
think that evening out of late.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
The big scandal, the possible scandal is Taylor Swift's tour.
Everywhere she's been they've lost. She's going to Denver, She's
not going to Miami. I mean, is that it is
it with Jimmy and Taylor Swift?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Is that how Miami's gonna pull this out?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
They may have to. Bobby I might bring that up
in today's interviews for only about fifteen minutes away. I
hadn't been tracking the Taylor tour except to compare how
much money she's going to make versus I think the
entire NBA as a whole.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Everywhere that she's been has lost, and and she's going
to Denver soon and she's not going to Miami at all.
That's all we're saying. I listen, I ain't come up
with us all on TikTok, but I mean it's there.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It's looking as right in the eyes just a couple.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I don't care where you got it. Bobby, I'm gonna
I'm gonna say I heard my good friend Bobby Bow.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I'm going with that, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Two final questions, So with Miami winning Game two, which
I will admit was a shock to me after watching
them just get crushed in Game one, although they did
come right off that series. They did go to Denver,
where you don't breathe as well when you on Game
two they win, I mean, can this thing go six
or seven games?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know, all of a sudden? I think yes. It's
amazing how the narrative changes on one result, right, I mean,
if Murray hits that three and we go overtime, who
knows Denver maybe wins. Now we're second guessing if Eric
Spolster should have fouled you know, up three, but the
result changes everything, and that now you see it with
your own, you know, two eyes, that you know this
team is dogged defensively. They've kept Denver under one hundred
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and ten in both and it comes down to making shots.
I know we always say it, and it's awful to
keep repeating it's a make or myth league, but that's
exactly what it is for Miami. This team is so
proficient at three point shooting, especially in the playoffs, and
they could not have been worse in game one. They
make their shots in Game two, and now they're home
for Game three, where you feel the role players will
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be even better. So yeah, all of a sudden, you
feel that if Denver gets a split, it feels pretty good.
And that means we're going to you know, to Denver
for two to two and a guarantee of a six games.
So I think it does feel like it's going a
little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
All right, final question, And I wouldn't ask this if
you weren't to know all. In my mind, you are
the to know all and I do want to talk
about Lebron. I don't think he's retiring. I doubt you
do as well. But that's not really the question. But
you can you can't add that here. But with Bronni
going to USC and Lebron wants to play with Bronni,
do they really think Bronny's going to be a one
and done or will he be a one in? It
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doesn't matter. He's just going to be done. Even if
he's not ready for the NBA.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
It's a great question. He's not retiring. There's no way
he's not going to Dallas. I don't think that's going
to happen unless Bronni's transferring to like SMU or something.
I don't know if he's a one and done. I
haven't seen him play in person. But what's fascinating to
me is even if he isn't, you know, in a
normal situation, perhaps you know, if the team was angling
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once lebron has free agency status again to say, hey,
package deal, you know, we will take your son and
you can come play for us. Like that's always been
one of those little scenarios that's been rolling out there
for the last few years. I will say this from
people who do watch prep basketball, And I have to
admit I really don't. I mean, I see the guys
who are getting ready for the draft and are part
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of our draft coverage, so that's when I kind of
clewe into them. And Ronnie's still, you know, a few
months away from getting into the kind of stuff I
would watch. I've been told that his game is improving
and that he's a pretty good ballplayer. Whether or not,
you know, good enough for the league, Well, we'll find
out in time for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
ESPN Radios coverage Game three Wednesday, six thirty pm Central Time,
So do the math figure out where your time zone is. Hey, Marks,
huge fan. I know you've got a meeting to go to,
but you did the best of what you do. And
thank you for your time, my friend.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I appreciate that that that means a lot coming from you.
A big fan the other way.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Thank see you, buddy. All right, Thanks to Mark. That
was awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I don't know if Miami wins another one, but I
didn't know if Miami's gonna win one.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You know, they did dang it.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
And.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
They fell behind. They were up.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I turned it off, then they fell way behind, and
then I was like, I'm not even going back to it.
And then Duncan Robinson that's when he would like ten
ten points in a row something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, and brought him back.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
All right, let's uh, let's move on with a few
stories here. The College Football Hall of Fame ballot includes
Michael Vick Larry Fitzgerald, all eligible for the first time.
You know, I gotta say that I college Football Hall
of Fame doesn't mean that much to me because I'm
not a college player. I mean, I love college four
more than the NFL, which is weird. I do close,
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but I love college foot more than the NFL. But
I guess the College Football Hall of Fame doesn't really
mean anything to me.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
You No, not really, And I'm wondering why they're eligible
for the first time. Michael Vick, who was obviously played
twenty plus years ago in college VIC was awesome at
Virginia Tech was amazing. I mean, he was just a
lightning Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
As much as he was in the NFL. He was
that times two in college.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And Larry F.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Cherald at PITT I don't remember that well because I mean,
see a lot of pit games, right, if I'm being honest, Right, So,
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Good for them.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think there are some guys who But I think
Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Larry Fitzchild's probably in the NFL Hall
of Fame, isn't he? Has he been retired long enough?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
No, I think he's got another year or two.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, but he'll be for sure, we'll be in VIC.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Does he not make the NFL Hall of Fame?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Man, he has some good Oh you're the dog fighting
I forget about the dog fighting stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
And he was never really he had some flashes when
he came back. You know, he played for the Eagles,
some good games, a good stretch.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But now you want to watch something that is dynamic,
go to YouTube and search for Randall Cunningham videos. I mean,
he was Michael Vick before Michael Vick was Michael Vick
in a time where there were no other versions of him.
Randall Cunningham was awesome for the Eagles. I don't know
if he's in the Hall of Fame or not. He
has to be, because again, I don't think you want
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any titles.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
See I only remember him with the Vikings. Randall Cunningham, Yeah,
with Moss before Dante Culpepper, that's how I remember Randall
coneham Man.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
That's the old Randall Cunningham.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I guess. Yeah, is he in the Hall of Fame?
I want to see in the college Cunningham? Where do
you go to college?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I do not know that.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I mean that's before me, or at least I kept
up with people like that you and l V huh.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, well, good luck to all them.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I really don't care about the college right, but I,
like you thought, why is it so long? What are
the rules for college? Like somebody like Tim Tebow. That's
when somebody should be in the college Hall of Fame. Absolutely,
he personified what it was to be in college. He
got super famous from college his NFL. He got extra
shots in the NFL because of how popular he was
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based on his call. I mean, Tim Tebow is like
the ultimate college athlete. Yeah, who's the best college football
player that you can remember? I'm gonna go Tebow.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Reggie Bush, Oh god, damn.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Reggie Bush was awesome and I hated it Lindell why
at the same time. Yeah, that and that team ended
up losing to Tech. Yeah that Vince Young around the
right side. Reggie Bush was amazing. They should give him
hehidsman back. Absolutely should give him hidsman back. PGA Tour,
Live Golf emerging. This just happened an hour or so
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ago that I even found out, So I haven't been
able to actually see why they've decided to do this.
Who was the wimp peer who said we submit to you,
we give up.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
That's not really coming out yet, but it kind of
seems like the PGA Tour just because they're the ones
holding ground and now they're merging, and it seems like
the governor.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Of eating Eddie Eddie just walks in eating a boiled egg.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
How many of those do you eat today?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Three? I'm just three for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
They stink.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I don't smell anymore, kind of like when you have
bad about you, you're in a room with us, do
you smell it?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I'm far away. Do you smell like Kevin?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't see. We're all good here.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So you think the PGA Tour are the ones that
did caved.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
I only say that because they were the ones trying
to hold ground and talking very bad about live golf
and how golfers shouldn't go there, and then now it's like, oh,
let's come together.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Who do you think the wissy is here Eddie like
one of them had to be like tail tug between
their legs.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
We want to merge PGA.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
They are the ones that were so anti Live that
I think they're I mean to merge. You're basically saying, man,
you got us like you took. How many golfers did
they take.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Or did they go, you know, a screw? Which are
gonna buy you guys?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It can also be a power play.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Interesting, I don't know. I mean to me, that's not
it because Live is the one that screamed all the money.
We have all the money in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
People that screamed they have money oftentimes don't have money.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Dude. They paid those golfers like, they paid them a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So what's more important the chairman or the CEO?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Oh chairman?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Okay, so that's the Live.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Depending what's that?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Why the governor of the Saudi Arabia Wealth Fund you
see your all room Mayan will be the chairman of
the new group, but j Monahan will be the CEO.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Who's a PGA tour guy. Bro, that's crazy. Well, I
need to know more.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
If it's the chairman of the board that oversees it,
because that's different than just a chairman. Sure, Like at
our company, we have the CEO who runs a freaking company.
He's the dude making all the decisions. But then there's
a board who he has to report to.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah, he can't do anything without their approval.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Right he you know he can really, Yeah, he can
do I mean he's a CEO. He gets to do
whatever he wants, but he has to end up reporting
to them, figures data if they want to keep him, okay,
so he doesn't have to ask permission. And then there's
a director a chairman of that board. If that's not
if he's actually an active role, I don't know. We'll
find out. If the PGA tour was like we're scared,
but liv was getting no traction as far as uh
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people watching.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It, that's all.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
If the PGA said, Hey, we got big old balls,
we're going to buy you. Okay, that's what I hope happened.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Forget the two entities though, like, forget live in PGA.
How is Phil how is Dustin Johnson? How are they
going to come back and be like, hey, who won?
Now I've got way more money than you, and I'm
playing the same tournaments as you.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's only one year.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
They only get to it for one year, so it's
not significant difference.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I think the PGA was tired of Denny McCarthy being
on the leader board, like and that's our big dude,
and then you have like Rory McElroy, who you know,
choked this weekend. It's crazy. I think I think PGA
is just like, we got to do something. This lives
really messing our thing up with that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Something they've happened so long, they could have bought it too.
The Live tours sometimes it's like Facebook is there's a
company that's doing something and they're like, oh, we don't
want them to let's just buy them out. Yeah, we
don't know. I'm sure by the time this podcast is out,
all speculation. I just hope my bleeding, Red, White, and
Blue Heart hopes that lived and win.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's what it is, fighting hard for it. I just
have a bias for her.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Frank Vogel is gonna coach the Sons five year, thirty
one million dollar job. Vogel, who you may remember coaching
the Lakers. I don't know a lot of egos to manage.
I'm sure that's the main requirement to take that job.
Obviously you got to know your basketball, But then can
you deal with the pressure and the egos that you're
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gonna have there? With Kadi, with Booker, with Chris Paul.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And two years old?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That sounds like what's Lunchbox's character's name?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Junkson all are the same person. Netflix's documentary on Florida
looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It looks awesome. I mean it's two thousand and six,
two thousand nine Gators. It's called swamp things. And if
you just hear that, you're like, Okay, why do I
care about the six to nine Gators? Well, it's everything
that happened. And who was a part of those teams?
Tebow who we just talked about, Aaron Hernandez, the Penalty Twins,
Percy Harvin urban Meyer. He left right after that because
(35:50):
of health quote health issues, which then he went back
to Ohio State. Who knows maybe about the health issues fixed.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
There's a lot that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
When was Cam Newton, he was there too, Okay, because
that's a back story, but I thought whenever that happened,
that had to be then too. This is gonna be
real good. It's gotta be good. August twenty thirty comes out.
It's got to be good. There's too much here. And
I wonder who was interviewed for it. Yeah, did Aaron
Hernanez let him in jail? Is he dead?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, I thought so. Then I thought after I
said that.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, yeah, I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
One can't talk Aaron Hernandez anymore. He killed himself, right, yes,
twenty seventeen. Yeah, so they're twenty seventeen. That's probably before
documentary started. They probably won't get talk to him any
I wonder if urban Meyer talks.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
He didn't know. Way he didn't talk at all, right, yeah,
no way. The only thing he.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Talks to ISO ladies grinding on in a bar.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
He was talking to them.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
He was talking with his hands. The SEC has established
their twenty twenty four football schedule format. They'll play eight
conference games now for a year, they're gonna go to nine,
but right now they're not being paid for that ninth
game there. I think there were four or five schools
that own that wanted the nine right now. The rest
were like, we don't want it right now. Probably the
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teams didn't want it because you're just adding another freaking
monster game, and I think the ninth game is easier
to take once there are twelve sixteen teams in a
playoff where if you lose one or two games, that
doesn't automatically eliminate you. Because what we have this coming
up year anyway, it is the normal to sitch four teams.
(37:25):
You go at it, and you lose a game, it's hard.
You lose two games, it's almost over. And so I
think that's probably why a lot of the schools are going,
we don't want the ninth game right now, because we
don't want to lose two or three games by having
to play a lot more harder teams than all these
other schools are playing and other conferences. But it will
go to nine, and they're not being paid for that
ninth game, and they'll want money for that. So a
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lot of things probably in play, but that see, teams
will play eight conference games plus one required opponent from
the ACC, Big ten, Big twelve, PAC twelve, or Major
Independent during the twenty four season when Oklahoma and Texas
joined the league. In addition, the SEC will eliminate divisional
standings all one team, put them on a bucket. You
like that, I don't care. I know that I'm reading
most teams is most teams is most teams apostrophe consistent opponents.
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They're every years there are three teams, like Arkansas's.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Is going to be.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Texas, Missouri.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Where is the other one?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh, miss those are Arkansas. Every year they'll play those
for sure. Oklahoma's is Florida Texas Okay, good, Missouri Texas is.
So they'll have those three. But then every other year,
once it becomes a niner, you play every team every
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other year, which I think is good because there were
some kids that would coming into the SEC, even Arkansas
for example, and they'd play all four years and never
play a Vanderbilt, never play some of the teams. They
never get to go experience at atmosphere. So yeah, it's good,
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
The pods thing was the thing for a minute. They
we're gonna put them in pods or not. They're just
dumping them all. We saw the Big Twelve do that.
Big Twelve does that. They just lump them in there
and top two teams come out fighting and then they
play the bowl champion, the conference championship.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
There.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I'm ready for Oklahoma Texas to come to SEC just
because my wife and her family they are massive Oklahoma fans.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And you and your wife watching the game together and
they playing each other.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I hope they play the first year.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
No, we won't watch the game of them. We'll go
wherever it is.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
What's that going to be?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Sad for me?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
But what if Arkanstas wins? Do you rub it in
her face or do you just kind of silently and
be like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Nothing will be silent?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Okay, But I do understand, not just in this scenario
but in general that if I rub it in her
face now, the tide will turn at some point and
I will get it rubbed back into my face. And
she's much better rubber than I am. She's an assassin, man.
She'll cut you, She'll cut me. She's core, not just
about this, but when she's ready to go, I mean
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she is. So yeah, I'm excited for it. Those schools
are close sished together too, so it makes sense we're
gonna play Oklahoma State as well, which is a lot closer.
So those are fun games. Those are regional games.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's old Southwest Conference, you know, remember South comments a
little bit. But there was a reason that all those
schools were like rivals because they're all we're all close together.
It's just fun to play other schools that are close
to you in proximity. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
All right, Ed, anything you want to add? What's up?
I don't know, dude, I just want to.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Give you one more shot. You're working.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
All right, let's go. Final thoughts.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Read's not here.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
He's in Europe. I gave him. You know, in soccer
they do a loan loan out loaner. Yeah, they loan
a player.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I no, I didn't know the term.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
But Reid was like, hey, I've been asked to go.
And I was like, dude, just go.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
We're all good. Where is he you're up? Really?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Glasgow's in London and Scotland.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
He was with an artist and shooting pictures and that's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
And he was like, I know, man, I'm sorry. I
was like, are you kidding? There are only a few
times in your life you could do.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Just go.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
He feels like he was betraying you.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Well, I pay him a full time salary, so it's
not betraying. It was just me being like a good
dude to being like you only get these so we
could do like a foreign exchange program where we get somebody, right.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
You couldn't get a sweetish dude to come over here
and fill in.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I am here to.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Final thought going Kevin.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
We already talked about it a little bit, but I
don't care. I'm going to talk about it again. The
club's come in tomorrow, and I am excited. I've been
waiting for what did I get fitted? About a month ago?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Maybe?
Speaker 6 (41:46):
And every day I've been thinking about it. Maybe they're
coming in today, So I am super excited coming in
and they test them out my own clubs. I've ever
even had my own clubs, let alone fitted clubs.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Oh yeah, you should have had your own off the
shelf crappy first, so you at least appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I'm very spoiled. So thanks to Cobra and everybody.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Thanks to you. This is exciting.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You've been using Eddie's clubs, but you hit a bad
shot and blame the club and I was like, well
that's not really let me. You also broke my fore iron,
but the old one, nothing new one, no, and in
my old one. Yeah, are you jealous that he got
free clubs a little bit.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, look at his face. I mean, I mean, I
haven't been asked once.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
But you're not even part of this podcast, right right?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
No, I know, but I'm a I'm a Puma Cobra
guy too. You know by that, you mean you just
wear stuff I've given you free. Exactly.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
Every time I see this guy on the course, he's
got like some fresh shirt, I'm like, dangn that's nice
that yet Bobby gave it to me.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
There's what I learned about the Poma the Puma cook Yeah. Yeah,
I've been out of practice. What I've learned about the
Puma Cobra brand and the shirts that we've gotten is
that not you can't buy these at stores. One that
has a Puma on the left side and the Cobra
on the other, Like, you can't. That's not how they
sell him at the store.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I didn't know that. So when you go to the
course sporting that, dude, you look legit. I didn't know
like people.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
A couple people have already come to me and being like, man,
you sponsored, Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
That's not true. Swear swear it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Has approached you.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Are you sponsored? Because that shirt a lot. The shirt
doesn't come that way.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
We're wearing like the best pants. I got a vest
I've never worn a best in my life.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
They did go hard and giving me all the free stuff.
And it's not like Eddie took hand me downs. I
was just like, here, dude, take something. I'll never be
able to wear all this and mostly too.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
You couldn't bring a lot with you from California, so
you know, because there was a lot of clothes to
fit in your bag, so I took half of that
from me.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Was that not the reason? Not the reason? Because we
flew back private. So it's not a big deal. Okay,
are you sponsored?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
You don't believe me, says stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No, he's been on the show one hour. It's just
saying stuff like I was wearing Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Someone's like, are you on the team? Goes in the
star on your hat?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Do you play quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
That's different Jerry's helicopter one time?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
This No, man, I'm not sponsored, thank you though.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Final thought, I'll talk about Madden twenty four. They say
Josh Allen is going to grace the cover of Madden
twenty four and the big Madden guy love Madden. Madden
curse was always a thing. Two thousand and one, Eddie
George was on thirteen hundred rushing yards. Pretty good year.
Two thousand and two. Dante Culpepper was on almost four
thousand pathan yards. Marshall Falk two thousand and three, eleven
(44:17):
hundred yards, eleven touchdowns. Who are the people that really
got I? Donovan McNabb towards a cl after he was
on Ray Lewis tore or injured a hamstring after he
was on the cover of it. Vince Young just sucked. Yeah, seriously,
he had injured knee. Peyton Hillis was a one hit
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wonder you shut up about Peyton Ellis.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, but still come on Madden.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
The league voted the votes.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
It was a voted one.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
You need to shut your mouth. Sean Alexander did rush
for one thousand yards after he was on the cover.
Let's see who else Peyton hillis by fan vote? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was a bad year. No, I guess his other
year was just one good year exactly. Adrian Peterson child
abuse scandal twenty fourteen after he was on.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Gronk. But he was always hurt too, Maybe boy.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Tom Brady when goat audition. Can he crushed after that?
Antonio Brown four receptions for fifty six yards?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh no, is that the bad year?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
One touchdown on one game with the Patriots? Lamar Jackson,
it's good, Tom Brady Petrick, Yeah, ok, good. Well my
point is there's just a few players that got you
hard after that, So the curse became a much bigger
thing than it actually was. It's almost like the Sports
Illustrated curse. Like the week after when somebody doesn't perform well,
the week after Sports illustrit're on the cover, you're like,
look at that, But most times they keep performing well,
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so you don't go look at that. Yeah, so pretty cool.
Josh Allen on Madden A little too slow for me
to use on Madden is my guy? He can throw hard.
It's a little too slow for me. I like a
little more mobile quarterback on the game.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Who who's your QB?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Well we're in like two thousand thirty right now.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
So who's playing in twenty thirty? Well not a lot
of the guys now, so new rookies company makeup names.
Yeah that's cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so you would know.
I saw Eddie George at the airport what last week?
He say, Hey, down, how I get you in? Wh
you're playing with the Calndary sponsor.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
He still looks like he can play.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Oh yeah man, big old legs.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Yeah nah.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
He was just walking, you know, in the gate and
I was like, wow, I did double take. But that's
pretty cool man. I've never seen before. We've lived here
for what ten years? Never seen before.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
I saw him once in New York.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
That's ironic.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Random.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
It was really random. The same hotel I was at,
really like, you.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Had to George.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
He's like, yeah, wait, you asked him? Are you ready? George?
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Sure did, but but you hold on? Why did you
ask him that you knew? It was so quickly. No,
I didn't. I wasn't for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It happened so quickly. I was just standing up on
him because it's not like I was like, I'm gonna
go up to him, say are you aady George. He
was like walking out the front door and I was
walking in and I was like, are you you had, George?
And he's like yeah, I said, hey, I'mobby Bones.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
He had no idea.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I thought I'd be like, hey, George, what did he say?
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
He was like oh, and he can't wait for me,
like fill in the gap, and so I did. I
was like, I'm from Nashville and he goes, oh, man, good,
you're super nice. Yeah, but it definitely wasn't met with
the sound. Was like you Hady Georgia. Yeah, Hey, I'm
Bobby Bones.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh that's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
He was like, I know it should mean something, but
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So yes, what it felt like?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
All right, that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Follow us on social media at twenty five Whistles.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
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The most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones.
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This is a podcast called twenty five West Stocking way Off.
And they were a whistle. Yes, too bad, but what
did you expect?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's a podcast called twenty five Whistles twenty wine. Weady, welcome,
there's the whistle.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
We have an eddio.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What number this is?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Seventy one?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
God dangry twenty five to seventy one. We're not even
official right now. Look at us, Look at us. Mark
Kester coming up in a little bit. At Mark kester Scher,
we'll talk about the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
He is, he's the main guy.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
He's the national ESPN guy who covers all the games
and ESPN radios. Coverage of Game three on Wednesday begins
at six thirty pm Central, NBA Countdown errors at six
thirty pm on ESPN and carries over to ABC at
seven pm, and then the broadcast is seven thirty on ABC.
So Mark Kesterscher coming up, and I got a lot
to talk about to Mark or with Mark. Also, I'll
say this, it's not here for the show, but Eddie
(00:58):
is working on something on the computer here.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Out here for this podcast. I'm working, man.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Did you hear this? What were you like, did you
hear sports?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It was the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Playoffs? Hilarious?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Were you not here when we did those?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Do you guys still use my Dallas Cowboys clip?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Everyone by the Cowboys story comes up?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
How about them Cowboys? We haven't ready? I love that.
I love that?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What are you working on videos? Working on videos? I'd
like to show this morning?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, okay, cool?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Yeah, but I mean, you guys, I'm at my desk
and you guys just come in and act like I'm
not even working here.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I never left, Okay, whatever, So okay, cool, thanks Eddie.
All right, let's go to the Tittle Tattle. His name ever,
the Ttle Tattle.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
I've seen two guys lead their team and you'll, Kitchen Butler,
Who do you think of when you think of the
single most memorable playoff run in NBA history?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I probably don't go back like a encyclopedia. I think
a lot of hardcore NBA fans do, so mine's probably
in the past twenty years or so.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Whenever Dirk and.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
The Mavericks won that and nobody expected him to, like
he had to carry that load.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
He really had.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I mean and I think he averaged probably around thirty
points a game that whole series, and they did. They
weren't expected to win that thing at all. I remember
the flight with Cuban and the trophy on the plane
on the way back, and I was super excited because
at that point in my life, that was the Lebron
villain season because that was Miami, right, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Was Lebron Miami. That was I didn't like Lebron.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Lebron was a villain to me then, So remember that
because I was rooting so hard for the Mavericks and
I'm not a Mavericks fan. I just was a Miami
hater because they team those three together and it seemed unfair. Now,
everything good eventually turns bad, turns good turns bad. I'm
the biggest Lebron stand you could possibly be.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
He's like seventy years old. He's still probably better than
ninety percent of the league. I think he's better than Jordan.
If I had to pick one of them again at
their rookie year and go, this is the guy is
on your team, I'm taking Lebron every single time. I also,
I'm not gonna fight you because I don't care that
much to be right, But I would take Lebron so
he's been awesome a villain awesome again, but in that
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one villain season, I would put Dirk and the Mavericks
when they won that title.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
That was a fun one.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I also watched Mark Cuban.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
On SmartLess, the HBO show where they do a documentary
on the SmartLess Live tour and Mark Cuban's one of
the guests. He comes out and because they don't tell
the other two. There's three of them on the show.
There's Jason Bateman, there's just Jack Sean Hayes, and then
there's Will Arnett. It's these three guys that do a podcast.
(03:49):
One of them books to guests, the other two don't
know who it is. Oh, it's how the podcast works too.
But on the live show, same thing, and Mark Cuban
came out and hung out with them for a while.
And it's funny that one of the guys only knew
Mark Cuban from basketball, one of the guys only knew
Mark Cuban from Shark Tank, and one of the guys
just kind of knew him from all But that's also
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a guy who has become wildly famous from being an executive.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, one of the more well known owners for sure.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
I mean he's up there with the Jerry Jones as
far as like the basketball compared to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I just remember him in the plane with the trophy. Yeah,
with a big cigar. So I'll go Dirk twenty eleven.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Next question after his release last week, where do you
want to see DeAndre Hopkins go?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Where do I want to see him? God, I think
it'd be hilarious if being back to the Texans. You know,
for a minute, that was the thing, like, he may
go back, It'll be hilarious. The thing I worry, I
guess I don't worry because I don't care enough to worry.
The thing I wonder about is how much does he
how much elite does he still have in the tank,
because I think he can still be a really good receiver.
(04:55):
I think he can be the number one receiver on
a team that doesn't have a number one. But I
think if he goes somewhe where let's say he goes
to the Eagles, which there's been some talking to him
going to the Eagles. He's not the number one, no,
so and can he and does he want to embrace
that role as not the guy.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I mean, he's one of the guys, but he's not
the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
If he goes to a team that's probably a Super
Bowl contender, I think he could probably go to the Chiefs, though.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I feel like Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I feel like Mahomes like Peyton Manning, like when you
have and this is no offense to these guys, but
like an Eric Decker, like you could go through some
of the Colts wide receivers that never were that good
after they left Peyton Manning because there's a lot of
those guys.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I feel like Mahomes can do.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
That with wide receivers as well. And I think if
Hopkins went to the Chiefs, he's better than just a
random dude.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He can make good.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I think he's a pretty good dude. He can make great.
I think if he went to the Chiefs, man, they
would be he just freaking legit. If can they afford him,
will he lower his rate? We'll say, to go to
the Chiefs. How bad does he want to win a
Super Bowl? He's ring shopping, right, that's or he's money shopping,
but probably ring. He's probably ring shopping.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, you would hope.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I wouldn't want to go to the Bills if it
were me, because it's just too cold. You hate the
I hate the cold, man, I hate the cold, and
I wouldn't want You're gonna go from Arizona to Buffalo.
Screw that. If you were a jet, if you were
a panther, I could understand that shift. If you're a
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freaking Arizona Cardinal and you're gonna go to Buffalo, Nope,
my blood is too thin for that stuff. So I
think it would be cool if he went to the
Chiefs and Eagles are already so good like at Chargers.
Would be fun for me to see him go to
the chart. He wouldn't be a number, But those receivers
stay hurt so much. I know, it's just like spinning
(06:58):
the wheel of who's gonna be hurt and hopefully you
get two of them in a week. Yes, but I
would like to see him go to the Chargers because
I would like to see them win and be competitive
and have to hear people stop talking about how they
should be winning and they should be competitive. So I'm
picking the Chargers if it's me. And also it's not cold,
you know what I Yes.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Next, we went golfing last weekend. You saw my struggles
with the driver, So I was wondering, which club do
you hate to hit?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Hit the least?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Are you getting your clubs today?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You are get your clubs to day, big week that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, what is today? Tuesday? Tuesday? And that's exciting very.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Kevin's getting some some cobras and we're doing a little
series and he went and got fit. And you did
struggle with that driver.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I've always struggled that slice, man.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yeah, I mean I struggle to We all struggle.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Eddie's here too. Eddie struggles more than anybody, Probably not
as much as you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh your MIC's alone.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, man, just sitting my desk working, dude.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You know what club do you hate to hit the most?
Because mine's a five iron, because it's my longest iron.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I don't mind hit the driver. I can rap.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I can knock a driver most of the time. Half
a mile pretty good. Yeah, hybrid's pretty good because it
basically a driver just without a tea. I get to
that five iron, I pitch your wedge sandwich.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
All good.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Once the iron start to get longer. My five iron
is the worst club it's so weird.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
They say, like, hit the long iron's how you hit
a short iron, but it's not possible.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But your body never tilt. Your body is totally yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
And so I would say four iron for me.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
However, I've figured out a little hack lately that I'm
It's changed my game because usually if I'm like one
nighty out, I don't have a club for that. My
three would probably goes like two ten or whatever. So
one nighty I'm stuck. But with that four iron, that's
the yardage.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Man.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I flatten it out now, almost like it's behind my
back foot back so flat, and I swing almost like
I'm punching the club, and the ball goes. The ball
goes about two hundred and one ninety yards and it
stays low and it rolls all the way, but it's straight.
So that's I think that's how I'm going to hit
a four on from now on.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Now you don't have a club that you can't hit.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Listen to this guy right now, have is its worst
is now his favorite?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Man, I love it. His weakness is now his strength.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
What's the worst thing about you that I care too much?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's a job in what you just did right there.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Next question, you were at.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
The College Softball World Series last weekend and you've been
to the Super Bowl. What's a sporting event on your
list that you haven't been to.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I've been to the World Series when the Cubs lost
to the Indians and the game. They ended up winning
the World Series that year. But it was awesome even
though they lost. It was game two, I believe two
or three, and they lost a game, and that part sucked.
They end up winning the World Series is amazing, amazing, amazing,
and just that even that night, even though they lost,
it was such a cool night.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I ranked that.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Higher than a Super Bowl, but probably because it was
my team. Yeah, honestly, the women's College World Series is
a series of games.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's like two weeks long. There are eight teams.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You make it to the College World Series, they're eight
teams and you're playing double emination bracket. There's two winners
come out of the bracket and then they play. You
start from scratch and it's three Like right now, Oklahoma
and Florida State are playing because they come out of
the both the different brackets, and they didn't matter if
any of them want or loss.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Once you get out of your bracket. You start over.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I will say that I think going to women's college
softball is better than going to men's college baseball if
you're just going for a team that's not yours. More energy,
more action, it's just a more fun experience. The crowd's
into it more now if you're going for your team.
I'd really go watch Arkansas baseball, which let me down
big time. They lost to TC.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They got twenty to five. You got hit two grand
slams back to back innings innings. He had a grand
slam the first inning, grand slam in the second end.
He hit another home run later in the game. They
beit US twenty to five.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And then we're winning.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Now working out yesterday, we're up four to two, and
like the sixth inning, I was like, fight, thank god,
we're gonna win this game. Go to the rubber match,
get out of here, go to super Regionals. Now they
end up pounding us. It's terrible, So I go World Series,
Super Bowl. The women's college World Series was really cool.
I wish I had a team in it, but I
did have family coaching two teams. I've been to Omaha
(11:07):
for the baseball the College World Series Baseball. I've not
been to an NBA Finals, been World Series.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
What if I know?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I guess that's the only thing. I don't want to
go to a race car. I don't want to don't
care about going to a race car. What if you
call it Matt nat NASCAR race car. I don't care
about racecar.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Okay, World Cup, that would be cool.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I feel like we get trampled, like all of a sudden,
I'll get trampled by all the people that love souce soccer.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
People are too passionate for me. How have you been
to like a US Open something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I have.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I've golf for tennis, sat tennis, like for erotic I've
been to events. Yoh yeah, I went to the US Open.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
He called me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I was like, I'm about to retire. You have to
get up here. You're right, dang. I forgot about that.
But the problem with that was because that's in Flushing Meadows,
and so you said, it's like a forty minute car
ride from the city in New York, and it rained
the whole like we and so there's no roof on
that thing, and they kept canceling matches.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'm just stuck in a hotel room.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
So I don't think I got the real US Open
experience there.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
What about like the Masters?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I've been I cannot believe I've been to all this time.
But if you start to say it, holy, I got
a pretty blessed life here. I bet everything but NBA
Finals game. The Masters is cool.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I went with Roddick.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I have price said this before, but is me and
him and John Legend together in the house and we
were just betting on a part three. They were just
golfers to come up hit. We bet who gets the closest,
and then they kept elevating their bets and I was
not the place I am now financially, and I was like,
I'm out of here, man, I can't bet with these
guys anymore. But it was crazy. It was a lot
of fun, and Masters was cool. Number one is going
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to be the World Series. Number two is going to
be the Masters. Number three is going to be the
super Bowl. Number four is going to be the Women's
College World Series. Number five is going to be the
College World Series, and number six is race car.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
All right, what do I want to go to? Wimbledon?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Would be cool, but I don't care about me tennis
players anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't really have anything I want to do.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Man, this is good. I like this because I now
I got to realize I'm very lucky, fortunate to have
done a lot of this stuff. I never put it
all together.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
No desire to go to NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Game seven though, Okay, I went to Game three in Oa,
Lakers Celtics in LA and it was cool. Celtics lost,
but it was great. But I've been the World Series
as well. The World Series was definitely way.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Better World And we're in Wrigley Field and it was
so packed, it was so dense with people, and still
everybody was in the best mood.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It was amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So yes, I would like to go to Game seven.
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no National College foot
one national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Oh, good call. That's it. I haven't been to that.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Good call because I won't go unless as Arkansas. I mean,
I couldn't have DraftKings like we'd like you to go.
I'd go, but college for one national championship.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That my answer? Rub it up, stupid in his name
the town tunnel.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Let's get up, all right, let's go to our boy Keester. Sure,
He is from ESPN, the national voice of ESPN Radio
cover in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Here he is Marcstershire. Hey, Mark, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Hey, what's going on? Hey?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
I'm a massive fan. I think you do such a
great job.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
At I'm just honored to be on with you. So
it's a complete other way around.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, I appreciate that, like you're the best at it,
and you know, it was kind of before we start
actually talking about like the main thing and making the
main thing the main thing, like when you cause your voice,
like you're so good at it and you have the voice,
Like I was always okay at it, but I didn't
have the voice. But what was like your first like,
you know, entry way into being a broadcaster, did you
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because I did Division two basketball and football, did you
do high school? Did you do small colleges or anything?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You know? I what I what I did was I
took my tape recorder up into the I was at
Syracuse University as a chemical engineering major, and I decided
this is what I always wanted to do, even though
my parents, you know, were like, no, enough, Broadcasting's not
the route to go. And then yeah, I did small
college D three D two D one, and then I
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kind of gave up on the dream while I was
doing studio stuff in Albany and Cleveland, and then when
I got to ESPN, I just kept pounding on the
door and finally got a shot. And I don't know
how I'm here right now, to be honest with you.
It took a while, but I got here.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I know why you're here, because you know, the cream
always eventually rises. But when you go to ESPN, when
you're hired at ESPN, what was your job description for
what you were going to do.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Initially when I was hired there, it was to do updates,
you know, they call them Sports Center updates for ESPN
Radio every twenty minutes. And I swore that when I
told my wife, I said, I'm going to be working overnights,
I guarantee you, And they said, no, You're going to
be in the evenings, you know, from seven to midnight.
And I was thrilled. Game Night was a big show
back then, you know, as ESPN was just getting into
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twenty four to seven radio and so you know, top
of the hour, twenty pass forty pass, I would do
two three minutes sports updates and it was about a
year after that that I filled in on our Major
League Baseball coverage, being the pregame host, postgame host, and
the guy who was in charge of that was in
charge of play by play. And that's how I kind
of maneuvered my way after a number of years.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
The hardest thing for me was I would travel and
do football play by play and we were home. I
had a color guy that was with me. Now again,
we're Division two in a small town in Arkansas. Nobody cares.
But when the color got was real fine. But I
would travel and the school didn't have any real money,
so they would send me by myself, and when we
would get beat like seventy to three, it was miserable
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calling a game. So do you have like backup plans
for if for some reason the game is stopped and
you just have something you can start talking about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah. You know what's funny is all the days in
between games, or the week in between a football game.
I put together this massive chart, color coded every thought
that comes into my head that just in case we
get seventy to three, you know, what do I want
to talk about? What's the most interesting thing I want
to talk about? And then of course most weeks, you
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just leave it on the table you got a good game.
But I always like to have a game plan, what's
the biggest thing we want to talk about big picture
and then kind of dial it down. And the nice
thing is with all the analysts that I work with
over the years, try to have a lunch, have a dinner,
pick their brains, and it always turns out I'm working
material because that's the stuff I go to when we
have a bad game.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Do you get to or how much access do you
have because now you're covering the finals, but how much
access do you have to players or coaches to kind
of understand their philosophy about the last game or the
game coming up depends.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
On what sport we're doing. The NBA is for me
since I'm on one of their top games every week
or two games, we always have coach access, which is
great where it's just our little ESPN radio unit for
ten minutes. Today it'll be Eric Spolstrap from the Heat,
Michael Malone from Denver, and then in the finals, you know,
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we'll expand to a player or two each where it's
just the five or six of us in the room,
and you know, sometimes you have to navigate. Most times
you have to navigate through the coach speak, but every
once in a while, you know, we've built a good
trust with many of the coaches, and they will trust
us with information and you can disseminate some of the
stuff that you know, maybe is right up on the
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edge of what's good for on the air, what's not
appropriate for on the air, and you just have to
kind of figure it out. But we get decent act.
We had great access in the NBA, for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Tell me about Spoe for a second, because I'm unfairly
when he was coaching Lebron and Bosch and Wade all together,
You're like, well, they win the titles. Obviously they're gonna
win the titles. He's gont have to be a good
coach to do that. But now he has ascended to
one of the best coaches in the NBA, or at
least that's what everybody's tells me. And I think what
he's done with the Heat this year has been an
example of that. But what does he like to talk
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to And after you spend time with him, do you go, ah, yeah,
I get it now.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
You know what we kind of figured out early on
the late Great Doctor Jack Ramsey, who was so special
to this league into this game, had known Eric since
he was a young boy, because Eric's dad was an
executive with the Portland Trailblazers where doctor Jack was in
the late seventies, And so we got the sense early
on that even as a twenty five year old video guy,
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you know, video room guy, that he just understood the game.
And I think, you know, when Lebron comes and you know,
they're in the midst of a nine and eight start
and there's this big mailstroom as they go back to Cleveland,
You're wondering if pat Riley's going to descend back from
the front office. He had so much trust in Eric
that he let him ride it out to four straight
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title or four straight championship series in two titles. And
he's the same guy. I mean, he just gets it.
He has a knack. He's good at also not divulging
what he wants to do. You know, he will make
sure that if you get a little too close to
the X and zero, he'll divertue in a certain way.
But when the cameras are off and the lights are off,
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you know, you can get a little quiet time with
him and maybe get inside what he really wants to
do if he trusts you, which he does with our crew.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I've been able to watch a bunch of some summ
Denver games at the time zones a bit later, and
I have League Pass and so i'd watch some Jokic games.
I don't think I was as clueless about how good
that he is, like a lot of my other friends
are casual NBA fans, because I do have the League
pass that I watch.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Do you think if the league voted for MVP after
the playoffs in the finals that he would have won
the third MVP in a row.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I think it would have been a landslide. I am
one of the voters. I don't know if there's one
hundred or one hundred and one voters, and I voted
for Joker last year in an incredibly tight race. I
thought MBA could have won it this year. I was
also confronted with we've got three great centers. If you
want to include Giannis in that position, who do you
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vote for? And it just felt like with Mbeat's closing
run and the fact that you know I shorted him
last year, I voted for Joel Embid. I still feel
fine with that as a regular season vote, but your
point is well taken. He's in a time zone that
a lot of people don't stay up. I'm a league
pass aholic like you, and now to see it up
close every day. We were on the Western Conference finals
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as well. You know he's going to be one of
the I don't know if I say top twenty players
of all time in this league. And yeah, if we revoted,
I think I think the Joker might be a three
time MVP.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I think what hurts him too is the same thing
that hurts Heisman candidates to play in California is that
we don't get to see him as much if we're
on the East Coast or Central time zone, and because
we're not constantly exposed to them, they don't really exist
as much to us, so we're not as passionate about them.
I know it happens with Heisman voters. Would you say
that it a bit has hurt Jokic?
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I did think a little bit. But I think also
is he doesn't look the part. I mean he doesn't.
When you look at him, He's just so massive and
even though he's you know, sculpted his body, if I
want to put in quotation marks. You know, he's done
a really good job of getting in great shape. Is
you know, it's just not sexy what he does, and
clearly it doesn't move the needles nationally, you know, like
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the big brands do. But when you watch him day
to day, it's hard to imagine a guy where you
can throw, you know, multiple defenses at him, you can
try to change things up, and he's always going to
make the right play. You know. If he's got guys
with him who can hit shots, you know, it's almost
impossible to defend. And that's what we saw the other day.
Like you know, Denver didn't make all the shots they
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made in Game one, and even though you know, tons
of credit to Miami's defense in the game to win,
and I think they're going to try to do the
same type of stuff to Jokic. He's just so devast dating,
especially you know during a season. You know, series are
different because you're just adjusting, readjusting, whereas you know teams
are coming in on a back to back into Denver.
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You haven't seen yoke at you all year in the East,
and that makes it so much harder to defend him.
But he's just He's just incredible. He's a different look
and I think this is the big stage he needed
to kind of put himself out on that pedestal.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Are these European guys a bit more cerebral at just
basketball in general?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
In your opinion?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
You know, I think I think we're evening out a
little bit. But I do think the last you know
from Dirk Novitski on where the skill set, the drills
they do at earlier ages FIBA being on a you know,
a shorter clock than college. You know, in high school,
they're making decisions a lot quicker. I think that is
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a benefit to the Europeans and to other parts of
the world that they're thinking the game a lot differently
than you know, the North Americans have been. Although I
think that evening out of late.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
The big scandal, the possible scandal is Taylor Swift's tour.
Everywhere she's been they've lost. She's going to Denver, She's
not going to Miami. I mean, is that it is
it with Jimmy and Taylor Swift?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Is that how Miami's gonna pull this out?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
They may have to. Bobby I might bring that up
in today's interviews for only about fifteen minutes away. I
hadn't been tracking the Taylor tour except to compare how
much money she's going to make versus I think the
entire NBA as a whole.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Everywhere that she's been has lost, and and she's going
to Denver soon and she's not going to Miami at all.
That's all we're saying. I listen, I ain't come up
with us all on TikTok, but I mean it's there.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It's looking as right in the eyes just a couple.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I don't care where you got it. Bobby, I'm gonna
I'm gonna say I heard my good friend Bobby Bow.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I'm going with that, all right.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Two final questions, So with Miami winning Game two, which
I will admit was a shock to me after watching
them just get crushed in Game one, although they did
come right off that series. They did go to Denver,
where you don't breathe as well when you on Game
two they win, I mean, can this thing go six
or seven games?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You know, all of a sudden? I think yes. It's
amazing how the narrative changes on one result, right, I mean,
if Murray hits that three and we go overtime, who
knows Denver maybe wins. Now we're second guessing if Eric
Spolster should have fouled you know, up three, but the
result changes everything, and that now you see it with
your own, you know, two eyes, that you know this
team is dogged defensively. They've kept Denver under one hundred
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and ten in both and it comes down to making shots.
I know we always say it, and it's awful to
keep repeating it's a make or myth league, but that's
exactly what it is for Miami. This team is so
proficient at three point shooting, especially in the playoffs, and
they could not have been worse in game one. They
make their shots in Game two, and now they're home
for Game three, where you feel the role players will
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be even better. So yeah, all of a sudden, you
feel that if Denver gets a split, it feels pretty good.
And that means we're going to you know, to Denver
for two to two and a guarantee of a six games.
So I think it does feel like it's going a
little bit longer.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
All right, final question, And I wouldn't ask this if
you weren't to know all. In my mind, you are
the to know all and I do want to talk
about Lebron. I don't think he's retiring. I doubt you
do as well. But that's not really the question. But
you can you can't add that here. But with Bronni
going to USC and Lebron wants to play with Bronni,
do they really think Bronny's going to be a one
and done or will he be a one in? It
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doesn't matter. He's just going to be done. Even if
he's not ready for the NBA.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
It's a great question. He's not retiring. There's no way
he's not going to Dallas. I don't think that's going
to happen unless Bronni's transferring to like SMU or something.
I don't know if he's a one and done. I
haven't seen him play in person. But what's fascinating to
me is even if he isn't, you know, in a
normal situation, perhaps you know, if the team was angling
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once lebron has free agency status again to say, hey,
package deal, you know, we will take your son and
you can come play for us. Like that's always been
one of those little scenarios that's been rolling out there
for the last few years. I will say this from
people who do watch prep basketball, And I have to
admit I really don't. I mean, I see the guys
who are getting ready for the draft and are part
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of our draft coverage, so that's when I kind of
clewe into them. And Ronnie's still, you know, a few
months away from getting into the kind of stuff I
would watch. I've been told that his game is improving
and that he's a pretty good ballplayer. Whether or not,
you know, good enough for the league, Well, we'll find
out in time for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
ESPN Radios coverage Game three Wednesday, six thirty pm Central Time,
So do the math figure out where your time zone is. Hey, Marks,
huge fan. I know you've got a meeting to go to,
but you did the best of what you do. And
thank you for your time, my friend.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I appreciate that that that means a lot coming from you.
A big fan the other way.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Thank see you, buddy. All right, Thanks to Mark. That
was awesome.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I don't know if Miami wins another one, but I
didn't know if Miami's gonna win one.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You know, they did dang it.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
And.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
They fell behind. They were up.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I turned it off, then they fell way behind, and
then I was like, I'm not even going back to it.
And then Duncan Robinson that's when he would like ten
ten points in a row something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, and brought him back.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
All right, let's uh, let's move on with a few
stories here. The College Football Hall of Fame ballot includes
Michael Vick Larry Fitzgerald, all eligible for the first time.
You know, I gotta say that I college Football Hall
of Fame doesn't mean that much to me because I'm
not a college player. I mean, I love college four
more than the NFL, which is weird. I do close,
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but I love college foot more than the NFL. But
I guess the College Football Hall of Fame doesn't really
mean anything to me.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
You No, not really, And I'm wondering why they're eligible
for the first time. Michael Vick, who was obviously played
twenty plus years ago in college VIC was awesome at
Virginia Tech was amazing. I mean, he was just a
lightning Bowl.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
As much as he was in the NFL. He was
that times two in college.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
And Larry F.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Cherald at PITT I don't remember that well because I mean,
see a lot of pit games, right, if I'm being honest, Right, So,
that's cool.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Good for them.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
I think there are some guys who But I think
Larry Fitzgerald, Michael Larry Fitzchild's probably in the NFL Hall
of Fame, isn't he? Has he been retired long enough?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
No, I think he's got another year or two.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, but he'll be for sure, we'll be in VIC.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Does he not make the NFL Hall of Fame?
Speaker 4 (29:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Man, he has some good Oh you're the dog fighting
I forget about the dog fighting stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
And he was never really he had some flashes when
he came back. You know, he played for the Eagles,
some good games, a good stretch.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But now you want to watch something that is dynamic,
go to YouTube and search for Randall Cunningham videos. I mean,
he was Michael Vick before Michael Vick was Michael Vick
in a time where there were no other versions of him.
Randall Cunningham was awesome for the Eagles. I don't know
if he's in the Hall of Fame or not. He
has to be, because again, I don't think you want
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any titles.
Speaker 6 (29:57):
See I only remember him with the Vikings. Randall Cunningham, Yeah,
with Moss before Dante Culpepper, that's how I remember Randall
coneham Man.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
That's the old Randall Cunningham.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I guess. Yeah, is he in the Hall of Fame?
I want to see in the college Cunningham? Where do
you go to college?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I do not know that.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I mean that's before me, or at least I kept
up with people like that you and l V huh.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, well, good luck to all them.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I really don't care about the college right, but I,
like you thought, why is it so long? What are
the rules for college? Like somebody like Tim Tebow. That's
when somebody should be in the college Hall of Fame. Absolutely,
he personified what it was to be in college. He
got super famous from college his NFL. He got extra
shots in the NFL because of how popular he was
(30:45):
based on his call. I mean, Tim Tebow is like
the ultimate college athlete. Yeah, who's the best college football
player that you can remember? I'm gonna go Tebow.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Reggie Bush, Oh god, damn.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Reggie Bush was awesome and I hated it Lindell why
at the same time. Yeah, that and that team ended
up losing to Tech. Yeah that Vince Young around the
right side. Reggie Bush was amazing. They should give him
hehidsman back. Absolutely should give him hidsman back. PGA Tour,
Live Golf emerging. This just happened an hour or so
(31:14):
ago that I even found out, So I haven't been
able to actually see why they've decided to do this.
Who was the wimp peer who said we submit to you,
we give up.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
That's not really coming out yet, but it kind of
seems like the PGA Tour just because they're the ones
holding ground and now they're merging, and it seems like
the governor.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Of eating Eddie Eddie just walks in eating a boiled egg.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
How many of those do you eat today?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Three? I'm just three for breakfast.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
They stink.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I don't smell anymore, kind of like when you have
bad about you, you're in a room with us, do
you smell it?
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I'm far away. Do you smell like Kevin?
Speaker 4 (31:52):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't see. We're all good here.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So you think the PGA Tour are the ones that
did caved.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
I only say that because they were the ones trying
to hold ground and talking very bad about live golf
and how golfers shouldn't go there, and then now it's like, oh,
let's come together.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Who do you think the wissy is here Eddie like
one of them had to be like tail tug between
their legs.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
We want to merge PGA.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
They are the ones that were so anti Live that
I think they're I mean to merge. You're basically saying, man,
you got us like you took. How many golfers did
they take.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Or did they go, you know, a screw? Which are
gonna buy you guys?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It can also be a power play.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Interesting, I don't know. I mean to me, that's not
it because Live is the one that screamed all the money.
We have all the money in the world.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
People that screamed they have money oftentimes don't have money.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Dude. They paid those golfers like, they paid them a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So what's more important the chairman or the CEO?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Oh chairman?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Okay, so that's the Live.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Depending what's that?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
Why the governor of the Saudi Arabia Wealth Fund you
see your all room Mayan will be the chairman of
the new group, but j Monahan will be the CEO.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Who's a PGA tour guy. Bro, that's crazy. Well, I
need to know more.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
If it's the chairman of the board that oversees it,
because that's different than just a chairman. Sure, Like at
our company, we have the CEO who runs a freaking company.
He's the dude making all the decisions. But then there's
a board who he has to report to.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Yeah, he can't do anything without their approval.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Right he you know he can really, Yeah, he can
do I mean he's a CEO. He gets to do
whatever he wants, but he has to end up reporting
to them, figures data if they want to keep him, okay,
so he doesn't have to ask permission. And then there's
a director a chairman of that board. If that's not
if he's actually an active role, I don't know. We'll
find out. If the PGA tour was like we're scared,
but liv was getting no traction as far as uh
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people watching.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It, that's all.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I'm surprised.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
If the PGA said, Hey, we got big old balls,
we're going to buy you. Okay, that's what I hope happened.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Forget the two entities though, like, forget live in PGA.
How is Phil how is Dustin Johnson? How are they
going to come back and be like, hey, who won?
Now I've got way more money than you, and I'm
playing the same tournaments as you.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It's only one year.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
They only get to it for one year, so it's
not significant difference.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I think the PGA was tired of Denny McCarthy being
on the leader board, like and that's our big dude,
and then you have like Rory McElroy, who you know,
choked this weekend. It's crazy. I think I think PGA
is just like, we got to do something. This lives
really messing our thing up with that.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Something they've happened so long, they could have bought it too.
The Live tours sometimes it's like Facebook is there's a
company that's doing something and they're like, oh, we don't
want them to let's just buy them out. Yeah, we
don't know. I'm sure by the time this podcast is out,
all speculation. I just hope my bleeding, Red, White, and
Blue Heart hopes that lived and win.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's what it is, fighting hard for it. I just
have a bias for her.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Frank Vogel is gonna coach the Sons five year, thirty
one million dollar job. Vogel, who you may remember coaching
the Lakers. I don't know a lot of egos to manage.
I'm sure that's the main requirement to take that job.
Obviously you got to know your basketball, But then can
you deal with the pressure and the egos that you're
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gonna have there? With Kadi, with Booker, with Chris Paul.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And two years old?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That sounds like what's Lunchbox's character's name?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Junkson all are the same person. Netflix's documentary on Florida
looks awesome.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
It looks awesome. I mean it's two thousand and six,
two thousand nine Gators. It's called swamp things. And if
you just hear that, you're like, Okay, why do I
care about the six to nine Gators? Well, it's everything
that happened. And who was a part of those teams?
Tebow who we just talked about, Aaron Hernandez, the Penalty Twins,
Percy Harvin urban Meyer. He left right after that because
(35:50):
of health quote health issues, which then he went back
to Ohio State. Who knows maybe about the health issues fixed.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
There's a lot that.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
When was Cam Newton, he was there too, Okay, because
that's a back story, but I thought whenever that happened,
that had to be then too. This is gonna be
real good. It's gotta be good. August twenty thirty comes out.
It's got to be good. There's too much here. And
I wonder who was interviewed for it. Yeah, did Aaron
Hernanez let him in jail? Is he dead?
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, okay, I thought so. Then I thought after I
said that.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, yeah, I can't do that.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
One can't talk Aaron Hernandez anymore. He killed himself, right, yes,
twenty seventeen. Yeah, so they're twenty seventeen. That's probably before
documentary started. They probably won't get talk to him any
I wonder if urban Meyer talks.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
He didn't know. Way he didn't talk at all, right, yeah,
no way. The only thing he.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Talks to ISO ladies grinding on in a bar.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
He was talking to them.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
He was talking with his hands. The SEC has established
their twenty twenty four football schedule format. They'll play eight
conference games now for a year, they're gonna go to nine,
but right now they're not being paid for that ninth
game there. I think there were four or five schools
that own that wanted the nine right now. The rest
were like, we don't want it right now. Probably the
(37:03):
teams didn't want it because you're just adding another freaking
monster game, and I think the ninth game is easier
to take once there are twelve sixteen teams in a
playoff where if you lose one or two games, that
doesn't automatically eliminate you. Because what we have this coming
up year anyway, it is the normal to sitch four teams.
(37:25):
You go at it, and you lose a game, it's hard.
You lose two games, it's almost over. And so I
think that's probably why a lot of the schools are going,
we don't want the ninth game right now, because we
don't want to lose two or three games by having
to play a lot more harder teams than all these
other schools are playing and other conferences. But it will
go to nine, and they're not being paid for that
ninth game, and they'll want money for that. So a
(37:47):
lot of things probably in play, but that see, teams
will play eight conference games plus one required opponent from
the ACC, Big ten, Big twelve, PAC twelve, or Major
Independent during the twenty four season when Oklahoma and Texas
joined the league. In addition, the SEC will eliminate divisional
standings all one team, put them on a bucket. You
like that, I don't care. I know that I'm reading
most teams is most teams is most teams apostrophe consistent opponents.
(38:15):
They're every years there are three teams, like Arkansas's.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Is going to be.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Texas, Missouri.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Where is the other one?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh, miss those are Arkansas. Every year they'll play those
for sure. Oklahoma's is Florida Texas Okay, good, Missouri Texas is.
So they'll have those three. But then every other year,
once it becomes a niner, you play every team every
(38:48):
other year, which I think is good because there were
some kids that would coming into the SEC, even Arkansas
for example, and they'd play all four years and never
play a Vanderbilt, never play some of the teams. They
never get to go experience at atmosphere. So yeah, it's good,
It's fine.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
The pods thing was the thing for a minute. They
we're gonna put them in pods or not. They're just
dumping them all. We saw the Big Twelve do that.
Big Twelve does that. They just lump them in there
and top two teams come out fighting and then they
play the bowl champion, the conference championship.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
There.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I'm ready for Oklahoma Texas to come to SEC just
because my wife and her family they are massive Oklahoma fans.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And you and your wife watching the game together and
they playing each other.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I hope they play the first year.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
No, we won't watch the game of them. We'll go
wherever it is.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
What's that going to be?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Sad for me?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
But what if Arkanstas wins? Do you rub it in
her face or do you just kind of silently and
be like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Nothing will be silent?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Okay, But I do understand, not just in this scenario
but in general that if I rub it in her
face now, the tide will turn at some point and
I will get it rubbed back into my face. And
she's much better rubber than I am. She's an assassin, man.
She'll cut you, She'll cut me. She's core, not just
about this, but when she's ready to go, I mean
(40:03):
she is. So yeah, I'm excited for it. Those schools
are close sished together too, so it makes sense we're
gonna play Oklahoma State as well, which is a lot closer.
So those are fun games. Those are regional games.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
That's fine.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
It's old Southwest Conference, you know, remember South comments a
little bit. But there was a reason that all those
schools were like rivals because they're all we're all close together.
It's just fun to play other schools that are close
to you in proximity. So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
All right, Ed, anything you want to add? What's up?
I don't know, dude, I just want to.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Give you one more shot. You're working.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
All right, let's go. Final thoughts.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Read's not here.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
He's in Europe. I gave him. You know, in soccer
they do a loan loan out loaner. Yeah, they loan
a player.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I no, I didn't know the term.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
But Reid was like, hey, I've been asked to go.
And I was like, dude, just go.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
We're all good. Where is he you're up? Really?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Glasgow's in London and Scotland.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
He was with an artist and shooting pictures and that's cool.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
And he was like, I know, man, I'm sorry. I
was like, are you kidding? There are only a few
times in your life you could do.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Stuff like this.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Just go.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
He feels like he was betraying you.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Well, I pay him a full time salary, so it's
not betraying. It was just me being like a good
dude to being like you only get these so we
could do like a foreign exchange program where we get somebody, right.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
You couldn't get a sweetish dude to come over here
and fill in.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
I am here to.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Final thought going Kevin.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
We already talked about it a little bit, but I
don't care. I'm going to talk about it again. The
club's come in tomorrow, and I am excited. I've been
waiting for what did I get fitted? About a month ago?
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Maybe?
Speaker 6 (41:46):
And every day I've been thinking about it. Maybe they're
coming in today, So I am super excited coming in
and they test them out my own clubs. I've ever
even had my own clubs, let alone fitted clubs.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Oh yeah, you should have had your own off the
shelf crappy first, so you at least appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
I'm very spoiled. So thanks to Cobra and everybody.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Thanks to you. This is exciting.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
You've been using Eddie's clubs, but you hit a bad
shot and blame the club and I was like, well
that's not really let me. You also broke my fore iron,
but the old one, nothing new one, no, and in
my old one. Yeah, are you jealous that he got
free clubs a little bit.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, look at his face. I mean, I mean, I
haven't been asked once.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
But you're not even part of this podcast, right right?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
No, I know, but I'm a I'm a Puma Cobra
guy too. You know by that, you mean you just
wear stuff I've given you free. Exactly.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
Every time I see this guy on the course, he's
got like some fresh shirt, I'm like, dangn that's nice
that yet Bobby gave it to me.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
There's what I learned about the Poma the Puma cook Yeah. Yeah,
I've been out of practice. What I've learned about the
Puma Cobra brand and the shirts that we've gotten is
that not you can't buy these at stores. One that
has a Puma on the left side and the Cobra
on the other, Like, you can't. That's not how they
sell him at the store.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
I didn't know that. So when you go to the
course sporting that, dude, you look legit. I didn't know
like people.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
A couple people have already come to me and being like, man,
you sponsored, Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
That's not true. Swear swear it.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Has approached you.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Are you sponsored? Because that shirt a lot. The shirt
doesn't come that way.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
We're wearing like the best pants. I got a vest
I've never worn a best in my life.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
They did go hard and giving me all the free stuff.
And it's not like Eddie took hand me downs. I
was just like, here, dude, take something. I'll never be
able to wear all this and mostly too.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
You couldn't bring a lot with you from California, so
you know, because there was a lot of clothes to
fit in your bag, so I took half of that
from me.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Was that not the reason? Not the reason? Because we
flew back private. So it's not a big deal. Okay,
are you sponsored?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
You don't believe me, says stuff.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No, he's been on the show one hour. It's just
saying stuff like I was wearing Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Someone's like, are you on the team? Goes in the
star on your hat?
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Do you play quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
That's different Jerry's helicopter one time?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
This No, man, I'm not sponsored, thank you though.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Final thought, I'll talk about Madden twenty four. They say
Josh Allen is going to grace the cover of Madden
twenty four and the big Madden guy love Madden. Madden
curse was always a thing. Two thousand and one, Eddie
George was on thirteen hundred rushing yards. Pretty good year.
Two thousand and two. Dante Culpepper was on almost four
thousand pathan yards. Marshall Falk two thousand and three, eleven
(44:17):
hundred yards, eleven touchdowns. Who are the people that really
got I? Donovan McNabb towards a cl after he was
on Ray Lewis tore or injured a hamstring after he
was on the cover of it. Vince Young just sucked. Yeah, seriously,
he had injured knee. Peyton Hillis was a one hit
(44:39):
wonder you shut up about Peyton Ellis.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yeah, but still come on Madden.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
The league voted the votes.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
It was a voted one.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
You need to shut your mouth. Sean Alexander did rush
for one thousand yards after he was on the cover.
Let's see who else Peyton hillis by fan vote? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was a bad year. No, I guess his other
year was just one good year exactly. Adrian Peterson child
abuse scandal twenty fourteen after he was on.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Gronk. But he was always hurt too, Maybe boy.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Tom Brady when goat audition. Can he crushed after that?
Antonio Brown four receptions for fifty six yards?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh no, is that the bad year?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
One touchdown on one game with the Patriots? Lamar Jackson,
it's good, Tom Brady Petrick, Yeah, ok, good. Well my
point is there's just a few players that got you
hard after that, So the curse became a much bigger
thing than it actually was. It's almost like the Sports
Illustrated curse. Like the week after when somebody doesn't perform well,
the week after Sports illustrit're on the cover, you're like,
look at that, But most times they keep performing well,
(45:44):
so you don't go look at that. Yeah, so pretty cool.
Josh Allen on Madden A little too slow for me
to use on Madden is my guy? He can throw hard.
It's a little too slow for me. I like a
little more mobile quarterback on the game.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
Who who's your QB?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Well we're in like two thousand thirty right now.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
So who's playing in twenty thirty? Well not a lot
of the guys now, so new rookies company makeup names.
Yeah that's cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so you would know.
I saw Eddie George at the airport what last week?
He say, Hey, down, how I get you in? Wh
you're playing with the Calndary sponsor.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
He still looks like he can play.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Oh yeah man, big old legs.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Yeah nah.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
He was just walking, you know, in the gate and
I was like, wow, I did double take. But that's
pretty cool man. I've never seen before. We've lived here
for what ten years? Never seen before.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
I saw him once in New York.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
That's ironic.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Random.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
It was really random. The same hotel I was at,
really like, you.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Had to George.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
He's like, yeah, wait, you asked him? Are you ready? George?
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Sure did, but but you hold on? Why did you
ask him that you knew? It was so quickly. No,
I didn't. I wasn't for sure.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It happened so quickly. I was just standing up on
him because it's not like I was like, I'm gonna
go up to him, say are you aady George. He
was like walking out the front door and I was
walking in and I was like, are you you had, George?
And he's like yeah, I said, hey, I'mobby Bones.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
He had no idea.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
I thought I'd be like, hey, George, what did he say?
Speaker 4 (47:06):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (47:07):
He was like oh, and he can't wait for me,
like fill in the gap, and so I did. I
was like, I'm from Nashville and he goes, oh, man, good,
you're super nice. Yeah, but it definitely wasn't met with
the sound. Was like you Hady Georgia. Yeah, Hey, I'm
Bobby Bones.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh that's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
He was like, I know it should mean something, but
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
So yes, what it felt like?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
All right, that's the deal.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Follow us on social media at twenty five Whistles.
Speaker 1 (47:35):
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
The theme song written by Bobby Bones and performed by
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Thanks to our crew, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, video
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The most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones.
We'll talk to you next week.
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