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December 18, 2023 19 mins

Grace is no keen on people who cycle to dates, she’s not a massive fan of vegans and people who do rock climbing give her the ick - so what will happen when she dates a vegan bouldering cyclist? Could he be man of her dreams…

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Novel.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
This show contains adult material and swearing. You have been warned.
I'm dead that I actually gagged when he said bouldering.
That's so funny from me.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
No, that's it. We don't need to hear any more from.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh my God, having me I'm a savage. Are you
bored of modern dating? Meeting the same people from the
same apps in the same bar You've only chosen because
it's close to your house and you can make your
usual quick getaway. It's time to change the narrative on

(00:46):
how we find love. It's time to start looking for
love in all the wrong places. I'm going on a
wild dating adventure, only picking people who are the total
opposite of my type. And after twenty eight of these
dates two months, will I find that special someone? Or Well,
this experiment proved that I should just give up on

(01:06):
dating altogether. It's time to find out. I'm Grace Campbell
and this is twenty eight dates later.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Grace, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here, I know here. Well,
we need to get straight into this guy. You sent
me this guy's profile, Ray, and I think you've hit
the jackpart here.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
He's baffing it. Ah so Ba and I'll tell you
what he was bath in person, Like I actually didn't
realize he was going to be that bar and he
was more hot in real life, especially what I'm trying
to say where.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Okay, so his profile first, Like obviously I've seen his profile.
I don't hear the date went, but like from the
get go, he is handsome, He's a vegan cyclist. There's
photos of him shopping for beans and lentils of the supermarket.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
With bride flag on his face.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
And then there's one where he's like fake DJing, which
not a fan.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Of but no I'm not. I'm not a fan of
that one his things.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I was looking for al pro passion fruit yogurt? Is
that like some that's Joe analogy? Okay, I think it's
a joke. Right. Is he French?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I thought he was maybe going to be French he
works for a French vegan company. Well, I don't know.
I spoke better French than him, but he was ba right,
So he turned up. Yeah, he had cycled to the date, which,
I will be honest is a bit of a nick
for me. I don't like people turning up to meet

(02:37):
me sweaty, I'm afraid, but he came and he had
brought me a present.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Is this the first present you've got?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah? I think so. Yeah, I think this is yeah,
And can we, by the way, can we normalize bringing
gifts on a first day? I think it's really chic.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
And so he's also a bold vegan. What's bouldering?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So bouldering is basically like rock climbing, but they don't
have to attach themselves to anything. It's like rock climbing
without like going as high.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, okay, I was thinking that.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, So I would say the bouldering and the cycling
things are both massive inchs of mine. I want stated
somebody who was really into rock climbing, and by what.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I'm into hiking and rock climbing.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Hiking is different. I love hiking, but the whole culture
around going to these places where they go in London
to go climbing does quite give me the ick. It's
not like the actual thing itself, it's the way that
people talk about it and have like their little fucking
climbing shoes attached to their backpack while they're cycling along.
It's like you've got the bingo card of like all

(03:46):
of the things you can be to be like, hit,
do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I have a question.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
What was the gift? So he brought me vegan bacon
from the company that he works for, and he said
that he had a friend who was a fan of mine.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
O great snow fence. That wasn't a present. They're just
trying to get you to post a bit.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
No I know, I know, No I know, And do
you know what was? I haven't because they haven't paid me.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Also, did you try?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
It wasn't nice? It's banging. Bacon is banging. I've been
eating it loads. It is banging, okay, but I'm not
posting about it because you.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Know you're gonna have to text me the brand because
I love.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, it's banging. It's really bad.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That is today's sponsor. Today's sponsor. It is vegan bacon.
And the brand is actually called banging because you keep
saying it.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
So you cycled over?

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Why tell me why you hate cyclists.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I just don't like dating people who buy bikes everywhere
because I find it really inconvenient annoying. How do you
move around and somebody's got a bike that's more more
a bit?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
So what do you do?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
I work for a company they make vegan bacon. The
reason I got this bag is two.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Things go on. It's got loads of vegan bacon in it.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, only show me show bacon signing whether or not
you deserve to have.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Never had any desire for vegan bacon. Are you vegan?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
You're vegan? Okay, So my bag is insulated. Oh my god,
that's like a deliver bag. That's like a bag.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Deliver Wow, which, if anything, it's good.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
For to I love the He had one of those bags.
It was like a backpack, but then he opened it
and it was like a cooler bag inside the backpack
to transport all his vegan bacon. He's obviously like taking
around all his dates. Don't you think he's got a
cute voice as well?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
He does?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Just me, he was.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
He had like a cute voice.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I liked the way that he spoke.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
So he works for a vegan bacon company.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Rod stopped looking the vegan bacon company. They haven't even
paid us.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
He cycles everywhere like you and him. You and him
could just get a tricycle. Oh my god, you could
have a whole life. Oh it could be sponsored by
the vegan bacon people and you can be tricycleaning around
the place.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I can't tell you how unwell that makes me feel
as a concept.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You kind of have the same hair.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, that's true. We did have the same hair. Yeah,
we did have the same hair.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Grace, did you tell him how good looking he was?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh? Yeah, we're you always very good looking? What you're
very good looking? But you've you've got like a very
like structurally good face than you were. You've always been
looking like at school where you've been looking.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
I've always had good feedback from the Grandmass. They've always
they've always been like, oh, gorgeous boy. But then I
kind of realized I say that to everyone.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I think you're very attractive. Thanks. I think I am
as well. I don't doubt that. But no nobody ever
says I look like an attractive famous back.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Well, maybe there isn't someone attractive famous person. I got
it quite flustered, so I've not checked my face.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Really hot, I thought, so. I was actually flustered when
you came in. Yeah, you're really good looking, and I've
got grace relaxed, Relax, Relax, Jesus, Grace. This is why
I'm single. I have no call, and I fancy someone.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I just made him.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Did he go right?

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
He was really flustered. Yeah, he was really flustered.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
You can tell, you can tell.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, I can't believe I did that. But that's why
I do. This is a problem, Like, this is why
Like when I don't like someone, I don't like them,
but then they think I like them. When I like someone,
I'm like, oh my god, you're so hot, That's what
I say. I'm like, oh my god, I fancy you
so much.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
So, like he seems like a pretty tame guy in that,
like he's ticked all your ickboxes, which means he's probably
actually a really nice guy. Was there anything? Was there
anything that he did that wasn't like, I mean actual flag.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
So it was going really well, and I was like,
I want to fuck this guy, was what I was feeling.
I was very attracted to him. And then he started
telling me that he is a spoken word poet.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Basically, do you like comedy? Do you have what comedy?

Speaker 5 (08:36):
I also try and do some stand up, not stand
up for poetry.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I really.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Let's just say hot takes on injustices that I turned
into some top lass.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Well, hopefully you can destigmatized spoken word for me. Yeah,
but the spoken world is a huge it's a hugely
stigmatized thing.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
In my beautiful bowl on the plates, lonesome chip doesn't
know it's face. What a lovely wide pot he couldn't
eat because it was too hot.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's just good. Tell me where to stop now, you
carry on if you on? Yeah, why do you do
a bespoke home about me? That kind of was It
was about a lonely bowl of chip. Really, that's been
the highlight.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, we don't need to hear any more from him,
that was it. No, he went too far. Yeah, no, No,
it just reminds me. We've seen ankor mean where it's like,
I love lamb.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, the thing is right, it's so hard. Yeah, because
I respect people who are like creating stuff, Yeah, I do.
I like poetry a lot, Right, There's something about the
spoken word format that does give me the because I
think some of the people that do it are quite icky.
But I didn't not respect it. The only thing that

(10:05):
I hated about that bit was not even his impromptu
spoken word. It was for him saying that he writes
about injustices. I could tell who was reading me a
poem about like the wrongs of the world as like
what I presume was like a straight white man, and
I was like, I don't want to hear your poetry
about the injustices.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Are you someone who's into romantic gestures? Would you be
into that? No?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I once got serenaded by a guy like he's playing
his guitar. I was breaking up with him, and he
started playing his guitar and he started playing me a
Dennis Brown song, which like a Jamaican singer, like old
school like lovers rock singer. So I was playing the
song and I've just walked out the door while he
is singing like I am great. It makes me so
uncomfortable when anybody does anything like that. I used to

(10:52):
have this ongoing joke with my ex boyfriend because he
knew how much I hate that stuff. So whenever we'd
be like in a public place, he'd pretend to propose me,
and I'd be like, oh.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
My god, sorry, like you're trying to break up with
someone and they started singing to you. That actually would
make me feel.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
So unwall it was. It was so horrific.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So I'm guessing if you were ever being proposed to,
you'd prefer to get proposed to in.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Private, Yes, definitely.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Has anyone ever proposed to you?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
No, Oh my god, no, I would give me the
magic if someone supposed to me. Really yeah, like you
don't know me at all.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, I'm very sorry to Ray Bouldering vegan cyclists, But
that was he was going so in my eyes, I
was like, he's actually.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Really nicely and he was fair well, and he was funny.
He was really funny. But I think as we went
more into the day, I sort of could see so
many things that we just were not compatible on as well.
One of the things he told me was that he
basically can't spend like a night at home alone. He
has to have plans like every evening of the week.
And I was like, that's my idea of hell, and

(11:54):
I just can't relate to someone who's like that.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I can't of.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Anything worse than being out every evening by the week,
even though it's my.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Busy do you know what, I every night of the week,
every week, I'm busy, but sometimes I'm busy alone. One
thing I like to do Guelfen is holdering.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, you know, it goes hand in hand with people
that ride bike. They always love the clime. I'm the
worst person.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh my god, I do feel bad for me because
he probably went in being like, I'm like this really
in my eyes, I'm the grave, you're listen, you're a cooman,
you're bouldering, you're cycling, you love tofu. You feel like
grace read the room.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I know I'm dead that I actually gagged when he
said bouldering. That's so funny for me. Huge respect, Grace,
huge respect.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I don't know. I just I've met so many of
these guys before, and there's a part of me that
wants to be with someone who's like kind of wholesome
and like into all of this ship. But I just
didn't feel like I would be able to fit into
that with him and him with me, you know. Yeah,
but like I aspired to having a Lamborghini rules like

(13:19):
cyclo bike.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
No, I lived in apparently the gastronomic central of the
world's capital, the world Leon.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
And did you get really good at friends? We're doing
a French degree.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
No, I wasn't still biology. Yeah, but they gave you
the chance of the year of war advances.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I snapped that up. That's my favorite place.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
The whole.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
The mass accent is really strong. It's like basically the
equivalent of a Jordi accent. But I mean sometimes I'm like,
what the fucking say? But I'm pretty good because that's
how I love France. One of myself in.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
France, so you know French just from holiday?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
No, well, I you too are going to do Sorry,
we're friends so great.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
He's bilingual? Is that a turn on for you?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I would love to go out with someone who spoke
French because then my French would get better. Yeah, I
feel like it's hot when someone speaks another language. It
shows that they have like intelligence. The fact that they're
speaking to you in English and that's not their first language.
It is fit.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
I'm so embarrassed that I only speak English. So I
feel like I would love to go out with someone
who was no offense to my boyfriend. It will be
turned on. It would be definitely turn on. If you
went on a dating a guy he spoke multiple languages,
you'd like.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I remember once when I was in my ex, I
didn't we we'd only just got in with each other,
and I didn't tell him that I spoke French. I'm
not fluent, but I can speak pretty good French. And
we went to France and we're in Marseille and we're
at this restaurant and then the way came over and
I just had this like completely fluent conversation with Water
and he was like what And I'd never told him
that I'd said French, and he was like, I've never
been more attracted to you when I am in this moment,

(15:07):
because it is fit. When you're watching someone like speak
in another language, you don't know what they're saying, You're like,
oh my god, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Have you ever gone it with someone who's bilingual? No, yeah,
I've got. I've gone it with guys who like have
lived abroad when I was living abroad, and obviously they'd
really good English, but also like really good Spanish or
Portuguese whatever it is, and like I just yeah, it's
just's nice, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's great?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Yeah? Great?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
And like, is there any nationality you'd love to date?
Is there anyone any like any country you've been to?
And you're like, the guys are just fit here. I
love their accent, I love everything about their culture.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean, I would love to have a French boyfriend,
like I said, because then it would be great because
we could have French kids, and then our kids could
speak French.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I also do like have like a real source for
American men, but obviously they speak English. But I'm very like,
I'm an international girl. I get with people like my
roster is very diverse, is what I will say.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
So, what if your like dating life?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Like I've been single since twenty eighteen. Okay, I know
I was shocked.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
I mean that much.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I've been saying just twenty.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Most of that, I've been like, I don't really care.
I'm not here to find someone straight away. You know,
most most marges end of the divorce. You're going to
break up at some point anyway, what's the point? Recently
has been like, I would like to settle down, really,
get a house together, really get some cats, I mean dogs.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Just god, he's kind of confused. He's like, oh, everything
ends in divorce. He's like, but I'd like to settle down,
get some cats, Like, dude, what do you do? Yeah,
do you want to settle down with the cats or Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
That was a big thing because I don't like cat people.
I'm afraid and I don't really see myself like having
a future with someone who likes cats. Anyway, if I
was going to be like mystic Meg, which and I'm
very good at predicting things, I feel like he will
get into a relationship quite soon with like a really
sort of pretty girl who like tans very easily, who
has long, straightish hair and loves cycling around and going

(17:14):
to holidays to Copenhagen and just cycling around Copenhagen, and
he'll get into really happy relation and they'll have children.
That's why I predict and cats and cats overall. Hey,
what was the date?

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Like?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Would you go on another date?

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I thought the day was good. I wanted to go
on another date with him.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
And did he not text you or I think no?
I think I asked for his number and he said no.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I think I wanted to see him again. I would
have I was sorry, I would have had sex shogged him. Well,
I think this shows me right, how actually just shallow
I am because I just think because he was so handsome,
I wanted to see him again because he was really
good looking and he was funny, so he was he

(17:54):
was taking the piss out of me a lot, Yeah,
which I like. But I think despite those eggs, I
don't think he was I'm on that I would ever
like be in a relationship with I would definitely have
gone on another date with him, but I believe he
rejected me, probably because I told him about how he
was eighty five times.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Also sorry, not only that, like you gagged every time
he said an interest.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Sorry, I just had to swallow my tea. Yeah, I know,
but that's like classic me, like being like, you know,
like a six year old girl being like, ooh, I'm
thinking that that means that the boy fancies you next time.
On twenty eight Dates Later, I felt like a milk
on his date. I was three years older than them,
but I was like, I felt like, oh, I can't

(18:38):
explain it. I felt like they were obsessed with me
because I was older than them. Well, they're quite boyish
and quite like they were like so immature. It was
really cute.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Around me.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
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(19:10):
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