December 27, 2023 • 24 mins
Grace meets her biggest challenge yet. The clue’s in the title… this guy is A LOT.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Novel.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
You have been warned.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I'll tell you what though. Listen to him right now, on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Him if he was fucking on fire, the piston.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Him just for my enjoyment, not his, and I'd make
sure that I've had loads of barocasas that real yellow
piss me.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm a savage.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Are you bored of modern dating?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Meeting the same people from the same apps in the
same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your
house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's
time to change the narrative on how we find love.
It's time to start looking for love in all the
wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only
picking people who were the total opposite of my type.
(01:03):
And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,
will I find that special someone or well, this experiment
proved that I should just give up on dating altogether.
It's time to find out. I'm Grace Campbell and this
is twenty eight dates.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Later, Dan, Dan, every single of these podcasts is going
to be you going.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Dan, Dan, How was your weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I had maybe one of the best in the club kiss.
Oh wow, Yeah, it was actually really hot.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Wow. So what makes like an inn the club kiss
like so hot?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Sometimes I've got a people and it's like I've been
in a car wash and it's full face saliva disgusting.
But then sometimes you get someone because you don't expect
it to be great necessarily because you're learning how to
kiss that person in the instant.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Where were you? I was at a gay bar. Shot horror,
don't tell my dad.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
In the club.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
In the gay club.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, there was just this man there and the kiss
kind of happened because we ran out of things to say.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
The absolutly dried up.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
How long had you spoken before?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Two minutes?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Perfect?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Because also, like you just want to get in there,
to be honest, Also, only wanted was a.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Kiss, But also who talks in the club.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
That's disgusting, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And also the thing is that there was quite a
big heighth difference, so like, firstly, I can't hear what
you're saying, and then secondly.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
He was seven one.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah he was taller than me.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah he was like he was small, okay, But so
like when we made out, it was a little bit
like a giraffe eating grass. That was like the imagery,
but the kiss was so nice and like we both
like got of each other and then like pulled away
and we're like, wow, that was really great.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Congratinations.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
We've got a boyfriend, her husband. Well, I had sex
on the weekend, right, and then, now.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Don't make me out whoa, Oh.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
My god, No, that's not even what the story is about.
I had Oh my god, shut up. First of all,
I'm talking now, I had sex on the weekend. And
then it's really weird because it was good sex. It's
not like I haven't had sex with ages I had.
I've been having like fine sex, but this was like
quite exceptional sex.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
What made it better?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It was just like really good sex, like like it
was just like we obviously really fancy each other words,
and it was just like fun.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And then yesterday, the day after having had sex, I
have just gotten so much attention from them, Like both
like two people that I used to day contacted me yesterday,
like one out of the blue, haven't spiked him for
five months, just sent me like an insane video of
him wanking.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Out of the blue, just out of the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Blue, and then no, yeah, oh yeah, it's mad. No,
it's so weird. It's like sex person, Like, no.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
One ever send me a video of you randomly wanking.
I really don't want you to send that to me
at dan dot.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Why don't do it?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Then I was on the overgrown yesterday I got chaps
three times, and then today I also got three.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, on the overground. Yeah, you're going from one end
to the other.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I was only going from West Hampton to Gospel, which
is full stops.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
How mental is that?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So for all about international listeners, which I know there
are many, chirps is basically where you're like chatting someone up,
like you're caught in them, like you floating.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Them in a bar or something.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's just like an English slanguage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
so I.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Don't know what it is. It's like an energy thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And it's also it's also yeah no I do pheromo,
Yeah I do.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But people always say.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
That, who said that?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I once, right, when I once had some really good sex,
like top notch sex, and then no, it's because so
much sex I have is like so bang, average have.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Differentiate, honestly, So this very.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Top notch sex and then this guy was staring at me,
and then I was like, okay, like you're just staring
at me, and he was like, it's just like I
really wanted to come over and smell you because you
look like you smell like sex.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What the fuck kind of people are you hanging out with?
That's like, that's like a creepy version of the woman.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's honestly thought it was so.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And then I had sex with him.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, he was really.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Sorry if someone came over and was like, can I
hoff your golf?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He wasn't saying my vagina.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He was saying, you give off like sex vibes, is
what he was saying.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Wait, can I tell you what I smell like after sex?
Not good?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, speaking for yourself, I am.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And all of the gay community, none of us smell good.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I am.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I guess it's like a sexy smell like during sex.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'm not talking legitimately about smell.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You're slightly missing it here, So let's let's slow.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Down down, Like, can I smell you?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Because I think he said he said, he didn't say
I want to smell you. I said, why are you
look at me? He was like, you look like you
smell like sex. And what he meant by that you
look like you're a slut basically is what he meant.
I was really flatter. I mean that is kind of
and then yeah, he turned to and only was like,
what do I look like? I smell like he goes
tean crumbs.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Which some people is also a smell of set.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay, So this guy, right, I matched with him on Field,
which is the app that essentially puts like your sexual
desires and interests are sort of like on a par
with like your also your other interests, Like it'll be
like I'm into fisting and fishing, do you know? And
(06:34):
on his profile, he looked like a Tory okay, which
if you're listening in America, is like a Republican, but
like with a lot of more weird backstory. Basic yeah,
fox catching, fox.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Hunting, Yeah if you incests, yeah, incess.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I thought maybe we'd clash on that because he
was going to be a Tory.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
But I wasn't even a toy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It was one of those people who doesn't even engage
in politics, which is worse than being a Tory in
my opinion. And he was just a walking red flag.
So I think we just get straight into it because
you need to hear about this day.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Who sounds terrible.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
What do you do for a job?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
I am in the Devil's game of recruitment. Really just
get paid to lie a lot. So I get to
the office at seven in the morning. I tend to
finish between five and sort of half six. They're not
going to train jiu jitsu for two hours and be
done about half eight and a lot of cook So
you've got half around the evening to Monday to Friday.
(07:33):
Where are your offices in the city, right, Okay, So
it's like a seven minute cycle for my live four minutes.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So I, yeah, I don't know if I'm ever going
to be aroused again in my life.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I have to hear that. Clear.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Can we bring in his book of records and see
how many times someone said jujitsu in one sentence?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
So I think we've got a new record.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The other thing that was so jarring about this guy,
which is j yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing that was
so jarring about him was how much you referred to
being doing philosophy. Right, So when we did get into
an argument, like at points we got into various diferent
like like beefs. He would always bring him back to
what I did philosophy at university, like which just doesn't
(08:17):
make any sense. And also like I don't want to
be like sound like really vapid, but like if you
need to fall back on philosophy like loads to like
justify yourself or to like form conversations and fundamentally like
you're a bad person.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I mean, just how busy his day is, Like what
are you running from?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So he had this like crazy robot schedule and so
I was just like, well, surely, like you don't even
have time to date, Like why are you on dating
apps if you've got half an hour like scheduled to
eat and even well it's like.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
If you if you want to spend two hours a
day doing jiu jitsu, when am I coming?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
That's literally why I'm here because I broke up with
my girlfriends and I used to never see her. And
I was like all I do is have such a
fixed life, right, Okay, you some weird stuff. So this
is what's interesting. I was going to buy this field app, which.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Is right mad and how long have you been on it?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Four weeks?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
And I've had three people asked to whee on me?
What does that mean like to actually piss on me.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Oh, we.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Wheel me, No, we urinate on top of me.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Actually on plas like when you're with them or has
that been on the app?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
So first messages?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Can I on you?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Is that your cup of tea? I've been on Field
and is absolutely mud.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's mud Field the app is absolutely mud.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He's the kind of person who's ruining Field.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, looking at his profile, it's screaming Tory, but it's
also screaming like Billabong model.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I do get like you. I'm not sure. I think
like Jack Wills, he's the kind.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Of person that just like hops onto something way after
its moment and thinks it's really cool. And so he's
probably like never had a conversation with a gay person
for longer than like thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
But it's like Field is mad, But.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I was like, I have been on Field for a
while and honestly, no one has asked to pist on me,
and I feel quite upset.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Do you find that you mirror guys you date on
your father at all?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I know some people have some people I have definitely,
But do you know who Alison Camber is?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I've heard the name. I don't get into I've had
done a philosophy degree. I don't get into politics at
load level, like just just kids bickering in a room.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It's not really a low level.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
It's that came across wrong. I apologize. I like the
idea and philosophy behind the concepts of politics.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yeah, well that's because you did a philosophy.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
No, I don't take that from my personal opinion, which
is probably wrong. I don't know enough about it. There's
not much influence in me having thoughts and politics goes on.
I think there's world powers and stuff going on which
actually changes politics. And we don't live in democracy because.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's all just I don't want it's not because actually
voting does change shit.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
He had a Cambridge analytica. He's in the movie Brexit
Democracies and.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Look at Brexit.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
If more people had voted Remain, it wouldn't have happened.
It was a very close margin, came to conno the
whole thing. But if more people voted Romain, it wouldn't
have happened.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I was traveling in Thailand against Spangled.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
He is so daring, My worst kind of person in
the world because he's contradicting himself in every way.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He's not saying anything.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
He's saying nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
He's so ill informed, but uses like philosophy but you
haven't mentioned exactly philosophical and not be engaged in real
world politics.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Honestly, he's the kind of guy that gets a guitar
out out of the after party, Like that's what it's giving.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I don't want to hear wonder wall.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He told me that he doesn't vote and that it's
worse than a red flag. That's like, seriously, like immediately
I bought the situation. If somebody tells me that they've
never voted.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well yeah, because also, like what kind of upbringing have
you had, Like if you don't feel the need to vote,
then you haven't been affected by things that happen.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's like the most like insane privilege to be like
I've never voted.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
If he engaged in the world a bit more, he
would have to face the reality, which is that he
is a bad person.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, yeah, you can't just sit in a conversation and
say the word philosophy six times. I think that counts
as are having a high iq. I've had deeper, more
eloquent chats whilst when came in, Oh yeah, big.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Time with a lamp post.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
And anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Then I asked him what his type was, What.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Was his.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I guess it depends on what your attraction points are,
because for me, I don't have a type or a
visual attractive point. It's how you think, It's how you
interface with people.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
In the world.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Do you only get with women?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I have enough. Like like, obviously,
being a philosophy student, I've not thought about men in
a sexual way, but like I can understand why people
find them attractive. Like I've been in a pub with
sixty blokes naked, singing Adele at the top of our voices,
windmilling to.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Adele in public in part of the people that's in
one of the parts. That's nice. I'm sure that was
really pleasurable with everyone else.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
If you have sixty blokes coming to buy ten points
each in a pub every week, they're some allowed.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
But that's very much sounding like the sort of like
Oxford Brooks version of the Bullingdon Club.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I know quite a lot of the Bully boys.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
So let's not refer to them as the bully boys.
That's very it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I didn't realize that I know him. I lost my
virginity to sixty men in a pub singing adult.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Whole.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
No, can we just talk about him saying the bully boys?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
What are the bully Boys?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, the Bullingdon Club is a very elitist group of
male students at Oxford University, which is like a very
like it's the best university in the UK.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I guess it's like a fraternity.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And the concept of the Bullingdon Club is the most
privileged men in English society, British society, and they like
go to say a pub, and what they will do,
which is like what he was describing, but much worse,
is they will intentionally fuck up the pub, physically assault
members of staff because they can, and then throw cash
(14:43):
at the end at them to be like, fuck you,
we've just fucked up your whole place, but we're so
rich that we can just pay for it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean, honestly, the way he talks, he's the person
it sounds like he's trying to make you buy shares
in his startup.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Do what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, he's worse than that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He's like the kind of person who's obsessed with status
but will pretend he isn't, so he's like escape going
all of this.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm like, what was his relevance for him saying that
he's a philosopher in that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm a philosopher, so I can understand why people want
to get with men.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But it's like, baby, like, you're just saying the title
over and over again with actually reading anything on the page.
You just repeatedly saying the title of the chapter, just philosophy, philosophy.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Saying anything.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He struck me as like a pound shop ex member
of the Bullingdon Club.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So he wasn't quite it where Like in a way
I would.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Have at least rather be on a date with someone
who actually knew about politics so we could get into
like a raging argument about it. I couldn't even argue
with him because he was so ignorant. I think I
already hated him at this point, but this was when
I really solidified my contempt for this man. He had
mentioned earlier on that he knew members of the royal family.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
We've all watched the Crown.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Then I like brought it back up.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And was like, so tell me about the time that
you had a dinner with a royal member.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
A friend of university who very wealthy, got invited to
a twenty first got to dress up as a terrorist
in blackface with the goats, which you could you did that?
A lot of people could that.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Did you do that?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Oh god, yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
No. Everywhere I was saying blackface, I'd say more or
less that it was Middle East and between pastis everyone
was just dressed.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Oh my god, this is awful.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Yeah, it is bad.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Sorry, obviously, Like this is what this is exactly what
I mean. Nobody who went to the school that I
went to, which was like an inner city London state school,
would ever, even at twelve years old, thing that was
an appropriate thing to do.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
So how do you deal with confrontation in your relationships?
I mean, I'm really well, is it in the sense
of you think you're right and the argument's based on
your right? For example, with this whole party that I
went to, you have strong opinions on that, and this
is what.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
That is because I'm right on that, Like it is
offensive to dress up as a terrorist as a white person. Yeah,
I understand that that's just a black and white like
Prince Harry dressing numbers an answer.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
You can see where the line is there.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Oh, that's a ridiculous move from him, but exactly so
for them. And I imagine that depends on much you care,
depends if you want to be offender as well. Like
in the context of the culture we are in right now,
I agree it was.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Then whenever, that was when you were twenty one.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
So what I mean is like before, in the days
of witches, if you spoke about spirituality and you're a
fifth year a woman in the fucking fourteenth century, you're
a witch.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Exactly I would do it.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You're normal.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, yeah, Like I guess like back in like the
fifteenth century, if you like had to put your hat,
you're a witch. And I guess like nowadays, if you
go into black face and go to a party, you
are a racist. Yeah yeah, to all in trouble, what
kind of comparison?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It was like quite mind boggling. I was just like,
you're saying so many.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Words, but you're not making any sense.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Baby, Like It's like, what kind of brain do you
have to have for someone to be like, I think
you're a racist and you'd go But there were witches once.
I tell you what though, listen to him right now.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
On him if he was fucking on fire him just.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
For my enjoyment, not his, And I'd make sure that
I've had loads of barocasas that real yellow piss, that
real stale bar no like four day bender.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah you've been drinking, kid.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That baby a frosty Jack's piss streaming streaming upon him.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I mean, I'm fully erect.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Any group. Background will choose the group. They are similar
to the safety like rugby boys that you said. Once
you get a big group of people together and they
create an identity, they have a way of behavior. Yeah,
a bunch of rugby lads, all individually nice guys come together,
they want to drink, piss and get they can do something.
So you learn a behavior through similar people together.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
That's not biology, Ben, Would you not say this.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Or say that is because the bill is.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The environment that you've been in where something like that
has been normalized.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
But the biology pieces the human being and their brain
coming to know because not.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
All rugby white boys end up doing it.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Don't be aggressive.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I'm not really aggressive.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I came across aggressive.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's offensive because I have an opinion.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I'm being aggressive. I'm just sat here calmly.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Your voice dictates aggression.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Do you have bullied at school?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
And that's the quite a personal question, the opposite, you're
the bully. This is what I do on days. I
want to see how you think. I'm trying to figure
out how you think you're attractive another honest one, how
you think that's it?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But he's not trying to figure out how you think.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's trying to, like silence, how you think he's trying
to make you think how he thinks, which is drm.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, he just couldn't handle that. I wasn't agreeing with him.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, you're being aggressive.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
No, it is mad because when you listen to my
tone hasn't even changed like I'm being I'm talking in
exactly the tone the voice that I talk him the
whole time.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Also, I think the most important thing we need to
try and analyze in this is how many.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Rugby boys is he fucked? No? I know he's constantly.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Being like just like rugby boys hanging out, you know,
getting naked, shucking dick and stuff, you know, just like
a coxshole.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
You know what it is like? So many ale? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we get it. Honestly but truly.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, but like such an insufferable man's no honestly the
word like do what he is he's like the bad
guy in like Bridget Jones, the bad character in like
a rom com.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Like he's like, it's like someone's written the script.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He just ticked the box for like every kind of
or like posh.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
White Englishman behavior.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like he was really like one of the worst people
that I've like sat opposite in a date.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Environment.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, also I love him. You'd be like, that's not biologing.
He's like, is it not?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Is it not?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Like it's environment He's basically saying that's why people are racist.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I would say, whether it was.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Part of the podcast or not, probably the worst date
I've ever been on.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean, if I was on this date personally, I
would be like, where's Ashton Kutcher because I'm being punk.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I wish Ashton Kutcher had.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Come face all over over. He's so fit man.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I wouldn't say the fittest on the podcast Ashton.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
This is a call out to Ashton's people. Yeah, it's
Dan again.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's Sam for the A. I've got the restraining order.
I know if he's the retraining order fell out of
his pocket earlier.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, but actually in the restraining order it doesn't say
that I can't contact him via podcast, So this is
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
No, You're right.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It was it was like, yeah, so I think. I mean,
I've been on dates before. I once when on a
date with a guy who told me he didn't vote
in the EU referendum, and then when I said why
didn't you vote, he said, because I'm just going to
vote next year. And that was one of the worst
dates I've ever been on and I left after ten minutes.
But this was definitely worse than that, because this guy.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Kieran was just.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
There was everything was wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And then when he told me I was being aggressive,
I was like, I will kill you with my bare hands.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
How can someone be so bad that they need PR
just for their life. He's not even a celebrity, but
he needs PR just to like be fixing the things
he said, he needs media.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Training honestly, Yeah, before he did this day, he needed.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Not just philosophy, Yeah, not just years one years of
philosophy learning about how he's not gay but he sucks
off rugby boys. But one day he understands how.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Honestly though the worst.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Next time on twenty eight Dates Later.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He is a bit of a player, is what I
got told that he goes is on a lot of dates.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, well, look he's Metis Maxton. That is true.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
You'd all be playing each other.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
We'd be fucking giving each other st d oh no.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Oh, my girls, see around for me. I'm a savage,
can it giving? Twenty eight Dates Later is produced by
Novel for iHeartRadio. For more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio.
The series is presented by me Grace Campbell, with help
from Roz Pursu and Dan White. The producer is Diggrey Wait.
(23:34):
The executive producer is Claire Broughton. Our editors are Mithily
Raw and Max O'Brien. Production management from Cherie Houston and
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Speaker 1 (23:56):
Novel
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
This show contains adult material, references to drugs and swearing.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
You have been warned.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I'll tell you what though. Listen to him right now, on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Him if he was fucking on fire, the piston.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Him just for my enjoyment, not his, and I'd make
sure that I've had loads of barocasas that real yellow
piss me.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm a savage.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Are you bored of modern dating?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Meeting the same people from the same apps in the
same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your
house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's
time to change the narrative on how we find love.
It's time to start looking for love in all the
wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only
picking people who were the total opposite of my type.
(01:03):
And after twenty eight of these dates in two months,
will I find that special someone or well, this experiment
proved that I should just give up on dating altogether.
It's time to find out. I'm Grace Campbell and this
is twenty eight dates.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Later, Dan, Dan, every single of these podcasts is going
to be you going.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Dan, Dan, How was your weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I had maybe one of the best in the club kiss.
Oh wow, Yeah, it was actually really hot.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Wow. So what makes like an inn the club kiss
like so hot?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Sometimes I've got a people and it's like I've been
in a car wash and it's full face saliva disgusting.
But then sometimes you get someone because you don't expect
it to be great necessarily because you're learning how to
kiss that person in the instant.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Where were you? I was at a gay bar. Shot horror,
don't tell my dad.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
In the club.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
In the gay club.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, there was just this man there and the kiss
kind of happened because we ran out of things to say.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
The absolutly dried up.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
How long had you spoken before?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Two minutes?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Perfect?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Because also, like you just want to get in there,
to be honest, Also, only wanted was a.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Kiss, But also who talks in the club.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
That's disgusting, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And also the thing is that there was quite a
big heighth difference, so like, firstly, I can't hear what
you're saying, and then secondly.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
He was seven one.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah he was taller than me.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah he was like he was small, okay, But so
like when we made out, it was a little bit
like a giraffe eating grass. That was like the imagery,
but the kiss was so nice and like we both
like got of each other and then like pulled away
and we're like, wow, that was really great.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Congratinations.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
We've got a boyfriend, her husband. Well, I had sex
on the weekend, right, and then, now.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Don't make me out whoa, Oh.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
My god, No, that's not even what the story is about.
I had Oh my god, shut up. First of all,
I'm talking now, I had sex on the weekend. And
then it's really weird because it was good sex. It's
not like I haven't had sex with ages I had.
I've been having like fine sex, but this was like
quite exceptional sex.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
What made it better?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It was just like really good sex, like like it
was just like we obviously really fancy each other words,
and it was just like fun.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And then yesterday, the day after having had sex, I
have just gotten so much attention from them, Like both
like two people that I used to day contacted me yesterday,
like one out of the blue, haven't spiked him for
five months, just sent me like an insane video of
him wanking.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Out of the blue, just out of the.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Blue, and then no, yeah, oh yeah, it's mad. No,
it's so weird. It's like sex person, Like, no.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
One ever send me a video of you randomly wanking.
I really don't want you to send that to me
at dan dot.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Why don't do it?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Then I was on the overgrown yesterday I got chaps
three times, and then today I also got three.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, on the overground. Yeah, you're going from one end
to the other.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I was only going from West Hampton to Gospel, which
is full stops.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
How mental is that?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So for all about international listeners, which I know there
are many, chirps is basically where you're like chatting someone up,
like you're caught in them, like you floating.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Them in a bar or something.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's just like an English slanguage. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
so I.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Don't know what it is. It's like an energy thing.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And it's also it's also yeah no I do pheromo,
Yeah I do.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
But people always say.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
That, who said that?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I once, right, when I once had some really good sex,
like top notch sex, and then no, it's because so
much sex I have is like so bang, average have.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Differentiate, honestly, So this very.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Top notch sex and then this guy was staring at me,
and then I was like, okay, like you're just staring
at me, and he was like, it's just like I
really wanted to come over and smell you because you
look like you smell like sex.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
What the fuck kind of people are you hanging out with?
That's like, that's like a creepy version of the woman.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's honestly thought it was so.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
And then I had sex with him.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, he was really.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Sorry if someone came over and was like, can I
hoff your golf?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He wasn't saying my vagina.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
He was saying, you give off like sex vibes, is
what he was saying.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Wait, can I tell you what I smell like after sex?
Not good?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, speaking for yourself, I am.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And all of the gay community, none of us smell good.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I am.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I guess it's like a sexy smell like during sex.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'm not talking legitimately about smell.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You're slightly missing it here, So let's let's slow.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Down down, Like, can I smell you?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Because I think he said he said, he didn't say
I want to smell you. I said, why are you
look at me? He was like, you look like you
smell like sex. And what he meant by that you
look like you're a slut basically is what he meant.
I was really flatter. I mean that is kind of
and then yeah, he turned to and only was like,
what do I look like? I smell like he goes
tean crumbs.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Which some people is also a smell of set.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay, So this guy, right, I matched with him on Field,
which is the app that essentially puts like your sexual
desires and interests are sort of like on a par
with like your also your other interests, Like it'll be
like I'm into fisting and fishing, do you know? And
(06:34):
on his profile, he looked like a Tory okay, which
if you're listening in America, is like a Republican, but
like with a lot of more weird backstory. Basic yeah,
fox catching, fox.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Hunting, Yeah if you incests, yeah, incess.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So I thought maybe we'd clash on that because he
was going to be a Tory.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
But I wasn't even a toy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It was one of those people who doesn't even engage
in politics, which is worse than being a Tory in
my opinion. And he was just a walking red flag.
So I think we just get straight into it because
you need to hear about this day.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Who sounds terrible.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
What do you do for a job?
Speaker 6 (07:13):
I am in the Devil's game of recruitment. Really just
get paid to lie a lot. So I get to
the office at seven in the morning. I tend to
finish between five and sort of half six. They're not
going to train jiu jitsu for two hours and be
done about half eight and a lot of cook So
you've got half around the evening to Monday to Friday.
(07:33):
Where are your offices in the city, right, Okay, So
it's like a seven minute cycle for my live four minutes.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So I, yeah, I don't know if I'm ever going
to be aroused again in my life.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I have to hear that. Clear.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Can we bring in his book of records and see
how many times someone said jujitsu in one sentence?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
So I think we've got a new record.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The other thing that was so jarring about this guy,
which is j yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing that was
so jarring about him was how much you referred to
being doing philosophy. Right, So when we did get into
an argument, like at points we got into various diferent
like like beefs. He would always bring him back to
what I did philosophy at university, like which just doesn't
(08:17):
make any sense. And also like I don't want to
be like sound like really vapid, but like if you
need to fall back on philosophy like loads to like
justify yourself or to like form conversations and fundamentally like
you're a bad person.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I mean, just how busy his day is, Like what
are you running from?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So he had this like crazy robot schedule and so
I was just like, well, surely, like you don't even
have time to date, Like why are you on dating
apps if you've got half an hour like scheduled to
eat and even well it's like.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
If you if you want to spend two hours a
day doing jiu jitsu, when am I coming?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
That's literally why I'm here because I broke up with
my girlfriends and I used to never see her. And
I was like all I do is have such a
fixed life, right, Okay, you some weird stuff. So this
is what's interesting. I was going to buy this field app, which.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Is right mad and how long have you been on it?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Four weeks?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
And I've had three people asked to whee on me?
What does that mean like to actually piss on me.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Oh, we.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Wheel me, No, we urinate on top of me.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Actually on plas like when you're with them or has
that been on the app?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
So first messages?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Hi?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Can I on you?
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Is that your cup of tea? I've been on Field
and is absolutely mud.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's mud Field the app is absolutely mud.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He's the kind of person who's ruining Field.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, looking at his profile, it's screaming Tory, but it's
also screaming like Billabong model.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I do get like you. I'm not sure. I think
like Jack Wills, he's the kind.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Of person that just like hops onto something way after
its moment and thinks it's really cool. And so he's
probably like never had a conversation with a gay person
for longer than like thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
But it's like Field is mad, But.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I was like, I have been on Field for a
while and honestly, no one has asked to pist on me,
and I feel quite upset.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Do you find that you mirror guys you date on
your father at all?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I know some people have some people I have definitely,
But do you know who Alison Camber is?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
I've heard the name. I don't get into I've had
done a philosophy degree. I don't get into politics at
load level, like just just kids bickering in a room.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
It's not really a low level.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
It's that came across wrong. I apologize. I like the
idea and philosophy behind the concepts of politics.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yeah, well that's because you did a philosophy.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
No, I don't take that from my personal opinion, which
is probably wrong. I don't know enough about it. There's
not much influence in me having thoughts and politics goes on.
I think there's world powers and stuff going on which
actually changes politics. And we don't live in democracy because.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's all just I don't want it's not because actually
voting does change shit.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
He had a Cambridge analytica. He's in the movie Brexit
Democracies and.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Look at Brexit.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
If more people had voted Remain, it wouldn't have happened.
It was a very close margin, came to conno the
whole thing. But if more people voted Romain, it wouldn't
have happened.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I was traveling in Thailand against Spangled.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
He is so daring, My worst kind of person in
the world because he's contradicting himself in every way.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
He's not saying anything.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
He's saying nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
He's so ill informed, but uses like philosophy but you
haven't mentioned exactly philosophical and not be engaged in real
world politics.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It makes no sense.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Honestly, he's the kind of guy that gets a guitar
out out of the after party, Like that's what it's giving.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I don't want to hear wonder wall.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He told me that he doesn't vote and that it's
worse than a red flag. That's like, seriously, like immediately
I bought the situation. If somebody tells me that they've
never voted.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well yeah, because also, like what kind of upbringing have
you had, Like if you don't feel the need to vote,
then you haven't been affected by things that happen.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Well that's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's like the most like insane privilege to be like
I've never voted.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
If he engaged in the world a bit more, he
would have to face the reality, which is that he
is a bad person.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, yeah, you can't just sit in a conversation and
say the word philosophy six times. I think that counts
as are having a high iq. I've had deeper, more
eloquent chats whilst when came in, Oh yeah, big.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Time with a lamp post.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
And anyway.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Then I asked him what his type was, What.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Was his.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
I guess it depends on what your attraction points are,
because for me, I don't have a type or a
visual attractive point. It's how you think, It's how you
interface with people.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
In the world.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Do you only get with women?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I have enough. Like like, obviously,
being a philosophy student, I've not thought about men in
a sexual way, but like I can understand why people
find them attractive. Like I've been in a pub with
sixty blokes naked, singing Adele at the top of our voices,
windmilling to.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Adele in public in part of the people that's in
one of the parts. That's nice. I'm sure that was
really pleasurable with everyone else.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
If you have sixty blokes coming to buy ten points
each in a pub every week, they're some allowed.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
But that's very much sounding like the sort of like
Oxford Brooks version of the Bullingdon Club.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
I know quite a lot of the Bully boys.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
So let's not refer to them as the bully boys.
That's very it.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I didn't realize that I know him. I lost my
virginity to sixty men in a pub singing adult.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Whole.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
No, can we just talk about him saying the bully boys?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
What are the bully Boys?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, the Bullingdon Club is a very elitist group of
male students at Oxford University, which is like a very
like it's the best university in the UK.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I guess it's like a fraternity.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And the concept of the Bullingdon Club is the most
privileged men in English society, British society, and they like
go to say a pub, and what they will do,
which is like what he was describing, but much worse,
is they will intentionally fuck up the pub, physically assault
members of staff because they can, and then throw cash
(14:43):
at the end at them to be like, fuck you,
we've just fucked up your whole place, but we're so
rich that we can just pay for it.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean, honestly, the way he talks, he's the person
it sounds like he's trying to make you buy shares
in his startup.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Do what I mean?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, he's worse than that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He's like the kind of person who's obsessed with status
but will pretend he isn't, so he's like escape going
all of this.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I'm like, what was his relevance for him saying that
he's a philosopher in that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I'm a philosopher, so I can understand why people want
to get with men.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But it's like, baby, like, you're just saying the title
over and over again with actually reading anything on the page.
You just repeatedly saying the title of the chapter, just philosophy, philosophy.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Saying anything.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
He struck me as like a pound shop ex member
of the Bullingdon Club.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So he wasn't quite it where Like in a way
I would.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Have at least rather be on a date with someone
who actually knew about politics so we could get into
like a raging argument about it. I couldn't even argue
with him because he was so ignorant. I think I
already hated him at this point, but this was when
I really solidified my contempt for this man. He had
mentioned earlier on that he knew members of the royal family.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
We've all watched the Crown.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Then I like brought it back up.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And was like, so tell me about the time that
you had a dinner with a royal member.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
A friend of university who very wealthy, got invited to
a twenty first got to dress up as a terrorist
in blackface with the goats, which you could you did that?
A lot of people could that.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Did you do that?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Oh god, yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
No. Everywhere I was saying blackface, I'd say more or
less that it was Middle East and between pastis everyone
was just dressed.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Oh my god, this is awful.
Speaker 6 (16:36):
Yeah, it is bad.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Sorry, obviously, Like this is what this is exactly what
I mean. Nobody who went to the school that I
went to, which was like an inner city London state school,
would ever, even at twelve years old, thing that was
an appropriate thing to do.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
So how do you deal with confrontation in your relationships?
I mean, I'm really well, is it in the sense
of you think you're right and the argument's based on
your right? For example, with this whole party that I
went to, you have strong opinions on that, and this
is what.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
That is because I'm right on that, Like it is
offensive to dress up as a terrorist as a white person. Yeah,
I understand that that's just a black and white like
Prince Harry dressing numbers an answer.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
You can see where the line is there.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
Oh, that's a ridiculous move from him, but exactly so
for them. And I imagine that depends on much you care,
depends if you want to be offender as well. Like
in the context of the culture we are in right now,
I agree it was.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Then whenever, that was when you were twenty one.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
So what I mean is like before, in the days
of witches, if you spoke about spirituality and you're a
fifth year a woman in the fucking fourteenth century, you're
a witch.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Exactly I would do it.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You're normal.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, yeah, Like I guess like back in like the
fifteenth century, if you like had to put your hat,
you're a witch. And I guess like nowadays, if you
go into black face and go to a party, you
are a racist. Yeah yeah, to all in trouble, what
kind of comparison?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It was like quite mind boggling. I was just like,
you're saying so many.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Words, but you're not making any sense.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Baby, Like It's like, what kind of brain do you
have to have for someone to be like, I think
you're a racist and you'd go But there were witches once.
I tell you what though, listen to him right now.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
On him if he was fucking on fire him just.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
For my enjoyment, not his, And I'd make sure that
I've had loads of barocasas that real yellow piss, that
real stale bar no like four day bender.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Yeah you've been drinking, kid.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That baby a frosty Jack's piss streaming streaming upon him.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I mean, I'm fully erect.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Any group. Background will choose the group. They are similar
to the safety like rugby boys that you said. Once
you get a big group of people together and they
create an identity, they have a way of behavior. Yeah,
a bunch of rugby lads, all individually nice guys come together,
they want to drink, piss and get they can do something.
So you learn a behavior through similar people together.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
That's not biology, Ben, Would you not say this.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Or say that is because the bill is.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
The environment that you've been in where something like that
has been normalized.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
But the biology pieces the human being and their brain
coming to know because not.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
All rugby white boys end up doing it.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Don't be aggressive.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I'm not really aggressive.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I came across aggressive.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's offensive because I have an opinion.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I'm being aggressive. I'm just sat here calmly.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Your voice dictates aggression.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Do you have bullied at school?
Speaker 6 (19:50):
And that's the quite a personal question, the opposite, you're
the bully. This is what I do on days. I
want to see how you think. I'm trying to figure
out how you think you're attractive another honest one, how
you think that's it?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But he's not trying to figure out how you think.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He's trying to, like silence, how you think he's trying
to make you think how he thinks, which is drm.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, he just couldn't handle that. I wasn't agreeing with him.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, you're being aggressive.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
No, it is mad because when you listen to my
tone hasn't even changed like I'm being I'm talking in
exactly the tone the voice that I talk him the
whole time.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Also, I think the most important thing we need to
try and analyze in this is how many.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Rugby boys is he fucked? No? I know he's constantly.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Being like just like rugby boys hanging out, you know,
getting naked, shucking dick and stuff, you know, just like
a coxshole.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
You know what it is like? So many ale? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we get it. Honestly but truly.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
No, but like such an insufferable man's no honestly the
word like do what he is he's like the bad
guy in like Bridget Jones, the bad character in like
a rom com.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Like he's like, it's like someone's written the script.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
He just ticked the box for like every kind of
or like posh.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
White Englishman behavior.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like he was really like one of the worst people
that I've like sat opposite in a date.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Environment.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, also I love him. You'd be like, that's not biologing.
He's like, is it not?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Is it not?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Like it's environment He's basically saying that's why people are racist.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I would say, whether it was.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Part of the podcast or not, probably the worst date
I've ever been on.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean, if I was on this date personally, I
would be like, where's Ashton Kutcher because I'm being punk.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And I wish Ashton Kutcher had.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Come face all over over. He's so fit man.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I wouldn't say the fittest on the podcast Ashton.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
This is a call out to Ashton's people. Yeah, it's
Dan again.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
It's Sam for the A. I've got the restraining order.
I know if he's the retraining order fell out of
his pocket earlier.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, but actually in the restraining order it doesn't say
that I can't contact him via podcast, So this is
what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
No, You're right.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
It was it was like, yeah, so I think. I mean,
I've been on dates before. I once when on a
date with a guy who told me he didn't vote
in the EU referendum, and then when I said why
didn't you vote, he said, because I'm just going to
vote next year. And that was one of the worst
dates I've ever been on and I left after ten minutes.
But this was definitely worse than that, because this guy.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Kieran was just.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
There was everything was wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And then when he told me I was being aggressive,
I was like, I will kill you with my bare hands.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
How can someone be so bad that they need PR
just for their life. He's not even a celebrity, but
he needs PR just to like be fixing the things
he said, he needs media.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Training honestly, Yeah, before he did this day, he needed.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Not just philosophy, Yeah, not just years one years of
philosophy learning about how he's not gay but he sucks
off rugby boys. But one day he understands how.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Honestly though the worst.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Next time on twenty eight Dates Later.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
He is a bit of a player, is what I
got told that he goes is on a lot of dates.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, well, look he's Metis Maxton. That is true.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
You'd all be playing each other.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
We'd be fucking giving each other st d oh no.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Oh, my girls, see around for me. I'm a savage,
can it giving? Twenty eight Dates Later is produced by
Novel for iHeartRadio. For more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio.
The series is presented by me Grace Campbell, with help
from Roz Pursu and Dan White. The producer is Diggrey Wait.
(23:34):
The executive producer is Claire Broughton. Our editors are Mithily
Raw and Max O'Brien. Production management from Cherie Houston and
Charlotte Wall. Willard Foxton is our creative director of Development.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
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