Draymond's Return, Fixing the Lakers, and OG Anunoby's New Chapter | 3on3 - 3 on 3

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the three
on three Podcasts. I'm one of your co hosts, Chris
Williamson and joining me today my good sister Tarrika Foster
Brass Meytarika? What's going on? How we living?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey, y'all, another day, another dollar?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
You know it is another day, another dollar. Hair all
laid down. Come on now. For those of y'all on YouTube,
she's doing a damn thing. And we also have a
special guest co host coming in filling in, coming off
the bench since Ddie Richards is getting down in Australia
playing basketball journalists and host of the Dimitria Oblor podcast

(00:44):
Demitria Overlord. What's going on? So great to have you.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Thank you so much for having me, Chris Terreka.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
It's a pleasure to be on the show. And I'm
feeling good right now. As you see in the back.
You know my chief's going to the playoffs. Washington didn't
get it last night, but you know I'm happy for
that hometown victories, smallst.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Hometown victories all day. And don't forget because I know
you'll your family moved to Vegas, right, so you got
a shout out to mass.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
To say the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
I was like, hold on now, but yes, I do
have love for the Raiders and I love what their
you know, hopefully future head coach is doing. But yeah,
the ass is always killing it. That's a reliable that's
a reliable source right there. I love my lads out there.
I love going to the games. Mandalay Bay always a
good time.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's lick.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, that's a party, right. It was a party from Michigan.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Y'all, y'all watch a game, right, I know you did,
Matri Oh yes.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
And in a little group chat, I know there was
a lot going on last night basketball world, but of
course I had to tune in for.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
The National four Ball play Off Championship and I.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Wanted Washington to win. But you know what, Michigan was
just dominant. I mean fifteen and oh now, I mean,
you know, great year, great run. But little astisk there.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
We'll have to get to that a little bit later though,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, I are of all positive comments about Michigan until
I absolutely have to.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, you want to put the buffs on or
something like, you know what, you.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
But I can't hate on the winner. I can't hate
on the winning team. I can't hate on them, but
there are.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Just some other things that the players have nothing to
do with, and I don't want to take away their
hard earned work, their victory. But like I said, there's
an asterisk next to that victory for me for a
lot of reason.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yes, I got I got some questions. I'm wondering yet. Yeah,
we'll get to it later on the show, because I
got some thoughts on that as well. But you know,
in the NBA, right we're talking about how there was
so much going on, such unfortunate news. Right First, Tyreese
Halliburton goes down with a crazy injury or looks to
be very serious. Of course, right now we know that

(02:53):
it's a I think it's a Grade one hamstring strain,
so we'll see how long he's going to be out.
But he was really terrific for the pace, is like
really coming into his own, coming into his own like
becoming a superstar. And and then John Morant, he's only
he's been in the he's been on the team back
from suspension for just nine games, guys, and now we

(03:14):
find out he's done for the year because shoulder injury.
Tore l Abram that that sucks to me because he
brings so much excitement and attention to not only the
Grizzlies but also to the NBA with the way he
plays and how he moves just on and off the court.

(03:35):
It's really tough break to meet you.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Oh yeah, I mean all the way. I you know.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I was watching the football game when it happened, and
I'm on Twitter, you know, just talking trash and everything,
and then I see Ja Morant's trending. I'm clicking on it,
and I'm just like, oh my god, because what a
difference he made. As soon as he got back. I mean, like,
the Grizzlies are winning, and so now you know, what's
what's the forecast for the rest of the season. I mean,
I mean, I don't want to take anything away from
the other players, but I mean you can't take away

(04:02):
the fact that Jaw is the difference maker. He brings
that ruggle and that's just the way it is. So
that's a big hit for the Gris.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Can I just say that listening and watching and then reading,
like watching the clips and then reading about John Morant's injury.
Please don't judge me, but this just gave me such
a bigger appreciation for Alyssa Thomas. Melissa Thomas been out
in the streets balling with two torn labrams four years
and she refuses to have the surgery until she's done playing.

(04:34):
But what this woman has done with two torn labrams
is completely relearned her shot, completely relearned how to play
basketball effectively on a different arm than her original shooting arm,
and only set the WNBA record for triple doubles in
a season last year. So I am heartbroken for John

(04:56):
knowing that he's gonna miss this season, but I'm also
extremely appreciative of a this to Thomas because she's someone
who actively deals with that injury and has figured out
how to make it work for her, and that's just
something everybody don't do.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So, yeah, like, what's that?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Like a man up to John?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Like what do you mean? Like, man, I'm just saying
I don't know what I'm just saying. I mean, I'm
not saying it's a man. I'm just saying that like
most people would elect for the surgery like I did.
And Alisa was just like, Nah, that ain't really my style.
And I'm just like, you gotta appreciate that because that's
just everybody does.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I feel like John came back with a lot to prove.
I mean, I just feel like.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, that's not it's not that John. It's just it's
not sha that giant at all.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
It's just saying, like, what what he elected to do
is what most people would do, and the fact that
she did it just makes me appreciate her more that
she's dealing with something that most people would be like, Nah,
I'm gonna just go head and take the surgery.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
And fix that's all one arm. She shooting.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Well, there's a big different. I mean, w n b
A you can't take it. I mean that right there.
Crazy resilience, the resilience absolutely amazing. But there's a different
level of playing in the NBA versus the w n
b A. It's it's a little bit different. I don't
think Joah can make it, you know, just shooting with
you know, like that limited kind of.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Women. But I'm just saying it's a different I just.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Think he wouldn't try.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
That's the difference for me, if I'm a flat out
just say it, I just don't think he would try.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
And that's no shade. I'm just saying there's a.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Level that's points.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
You guys, y'all are making my point.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
For me, what she's doing is something that no one
else would ever do because she's doing it with two
torn lab rooms. And I'm saying that's not normal. So
I'm not throwing shade at anybody. I'm just saying that
it makes you appreciate what she does because what she's
doing is not normal. Like, that's terrible to have your

(07:04):
labor torn and that ship works.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
On social media, I mean, there were all sorts of
athletes that were coming out town.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Like, oh my girlves of volleyball players. She was like,
oh my god.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
It was so debilitating how that happened. There are different
grades of all these kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I'm not a doctor. I can't get into all of that,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
But I think that he's he's a soldier out there,
and I feel like with all of the hardship, all
of the media, I mean, criticisms that he's endured lately.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I know that that. I know that Joall wanted to
get out.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
There, show up, show out the playoffs, and once he
got back on the squad, I just that's that.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I mean, look, I had to bring out the old.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Come on, come on.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
NBA Live Vancouver. Yes, I.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Feeled at one. It's devastating.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
This team looked like they could at least get a
play in tournament with out on the court.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
And now now.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
The seasons right now that they're playing for pride in
chemistry to hope for next year that they'll have facial
or healthy cast right. Speaking about health, the Warriors, their
mental health right the physical wealth of this team health,
I should say, has not been great recently. It's gotten
to the point where there are legitimate questions about whether

(08:25):
this is the end of the dynasty. Because first you
got Draymond Green right reinstated from that suspension after twelve
games because he punched or slapped use of Nurkic in
the face. Chris Paul is going to be out four
to six weeks because he broke his hand. Jonathan Kaminga
is going to reporters or as agent is tell him

(08:45):
straight up, you know, I've lost all faith in Steve
Kerr to maximize the potential. Moses Moody as well is frustrating.
He's sharing reports or he's going to reporters. But you
don't like the way Steve Kurr is getting down. Steph
is holding on by a thread because he can only
do so much with the way they're constructed right now.
Klay Thompson. It has up and down moments, But I

(09:09):
do want to start off with Draymond because that's the
most recent news. So he's reinstated, and then right after
he's reinstated, y'all, he decides to do his podcast right,
which is which is pretty cool. You know, you got
to it's all about, you know, the views and maximizing
the moment whatever. And he had some really interesting nuggets
in that podcast that I thought showed reflection and growth.

(09:32):
But one of them that I didn't like was him
saying that he had a conversation with Adam Silver where
he was like, Yo, this is too much, Adam. I
can't do it. I'm overtired, and I don't think you
should do that. Son, I don't think you should do
I think you're making a laster what you can't do.
You can't face accountability with your actions for punching and

(09:53):
kicking people in the nuts, Like, are you for real?
I get that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Asked for that, I'm not gonna you know.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
She started out with Klay Thompson, Draymond stepped and you
got to defend your teammates. So I mean it looks
vicious on the and it's and it's it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
We like to watch it.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
I just watched a highlight reel of like fifteen different
Draymond beat down.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
But isn't that what we love?

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Isn't that what we love about basketball the old days?
Isn't that why they say this current generation too soft?
They can't take a hit going down the lane. And
so then you've got Draymond who's given us that old
bad boys feel bad boys, you know, And it's just
we I missed him on the court.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
But the thing is is this is like what what
what are you dealing with?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I want to get more into that that makes you
so aggressive on the court, Like what what?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
What issue is causing you to be? Like I just
don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
You know what? What?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
What is this? What?

Speaker 3 (10:46):
What? I didn't get it.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I'm sorry he didn't really say anything in that podcast
that made me feel like, oh I get it now
now I know why he hit Jordan Poole like that.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Now now I get it.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Yeah, you know what, I will say this right and
I don't want to make like take it too serious,
because it ain't that serious to me. Y'all know, I've
been defending Draymond for like, y'all gonna get off my boys, right,
But I will say, but I will say this that
that part right there, Chris, he ain't the only player
that has come from a very rough area. But everybody

(11:18):
deals with shit differently, right, And so I grew up
in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I ain't aggressive.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
I ain't out here just knocking people's heads off, but
I understand when.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
People do it who come from where I come from
because it was hard.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
So maybe there were not influences around Draymond growing up
as a teenager. Certainly he didn't start to really get
accountability until he started playing for Tom Mizzo. Because Izzo
wasn't playing at foolishness. He was calling everybody out. He
didn't care what you was doing, what you was going through,
where you was. Everybody had equal opportunity to get cussed
out on tom Izzo's team.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Okay, So I think that you started.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
To see that maybe there is something there that he
doesn't know Physically, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Maybe there is something mentally there, but I appreciate. Adam
Silver said, no, you're not gonna take the punky out.
You're not about to take the punk way out and
retire when you clearly know your grown ass.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Should have handled business better.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
You need to take accountability for what you did, and
you about to come back and play and tell everybody
that you taking accountability for what you did. Adam Silver
basically played your daddy, and he basically said, no, you're
about to go outside. You're gonna apologize, You're gonna say
you sorry, and then you y'all gonna play nice.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
That's what he did. You know what you know?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
No, Raymond played Adam Silver's ash like a fiddle. He
played the like talking about he's gonna retire, you know
damn well, he wasn't gonna retire, Trerika.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
If he retired right now, he could and would still
be considered a potential Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So why could you know you're not going?

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, he's got too much. He still got it, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
And he's when he's playing well, I mean, that's that's
that's Michael.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Did Michael Jordan still have it? Did Barry Sanders still
have it? Did Mega Tron still have it. They all
still had it, and I all still said I'm out
for what I had reasons is were they plan?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So he's he's feeling like Klay Thompson, Draymond's not going
to stop playing until he.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Physically is like, Okay, I'm having a get.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
The quit plan. He needs to quit play, let me stop.
I'm just saying that's hard for me.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I don't want to give up on Clay just yet.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
But that those you know, you know, post game, you know, pressers,
just hearing him talk about that and just being so
honest about his ability. I'm just like, I know that
they're you know, they're calling you know, uh, getting to
that mid thirties or whatever. But there's still guys who
are still killing it. I mean stuff still killing it.
I mean I feel like, look at Lebron. I mean,
I'm not saying he's Lebron, but I'm just saying that
older age, like you know, I know, injury prone stuff.

(13:49):
But I just believe that he can still be a
shining star for the Golden State Warriors. But something has
to happen. There's got to be morale on the team.
You know, Chris, you were talking earlier about kaminga coming
out talking and Coach Kerr like, hey, put me in
the game, coach, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
And then I just you know, caught a drift of
you know.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Maybe Andrew Wiggins trade rumors, you know, coming up like
he's he might be on the chop and he has
not performed well.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Andrew Wiggins used to be their second best player in
the playoffs when they won that championship against the selfish
right Offensively, offensively, like the way he was commanding the
floor on the boards as well. And now yeah, it's
as if he's regressed, right, And that happens, but I
don't think we expected to see it from him specifically, right,

(14:33):
because Klay Thompson is a lot older or a little
bit older, right, And I did like him, you know,
opening up. But honestly, Dimetri, I feel like the clay
that we expect to see, you know, from those championship runs,
that's gone because all those Achilles all that.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, so it's wrong, my heart, because you see the
frustration coming from Steph and you know, all of these
guys want to go out there and they want to
show out and the.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
And sometimes you just see stuff on the side and
He's just like, all right, bro, let's.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
And it's just because you had it right and now
you're not really competitive anymore. So I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
But Andrew Wiggins, Yeah, coming off the bench on Christmas,
you thought maybe he was gonna do something, but then
after that, it's just been a downhill.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
So I understand why kmingas frustrated. But I mean, you know,
keep it in house. What do you guys thinks? How
do you feel?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Like?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
I understand, Like I totally understand Comingo's frustration in some ways, right,
and now with Draymond coming back, the ball, the touches
that he's gonna receive is gonna be even less now
because Draymond's going to take up most.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Of that space.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
But what I will say is I think that there
needs to be a serious conversation about why fans and
you know, I get why the players, in the front
office and coaches and all of that. That makes sense,
but I think we need to just have a serious
conversation about accountability and acceptability that this team is just
not the team that we were used the same for

(16:00):
the last ten years. Like you just have to accept
that you know, when you think about dynasties and you
talk about, oh, is the dynasty over?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Is this coming to an end? Blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
I don't know why we're in such shock, because all
good things have to come to an end at some point.
This Golden State team has been a premier team in
this league for like ten solid years. They got four
championships out of the deal, two of which were.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Back to back.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
One nobody even saw coming for real, because in twenty
twenty two they were a third seed that we were like,
Boston is gonna take it.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
So it's like, I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
There is this real sense of surprise that this is
ending the way it's ending. The Bulls had to end,
the Patriots had to end, the Minnesota Links had to end,
Seattle Storm had to end, the Lakers had to end.
And when I say they're ending, they're continuinely showing why
they're ending. Like, I just think we need to get
to a point where we just realized that the Warriors

(16:53):
that was is no longer, start accepting the Warriors that is,
and really just kind of sit back and ignore college
what we saw out of this team, because I think
It's pretty damn remarkable that we witnessed a squad that
really had not been relevant since like nineteen seventy five
become one of the more storied franchises in recent NBA history,
with some of the most unusual cast of characters who

(17:14):
will almost likely be Hall of famers.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
I'm about to cry over here. You just use like
hold on that.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
But but I go back to you guys, remember that
like video meme of Tiger Woods and everybody's saying like, oh, yeah,
he's trash, he's never gonna come back.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And then he comes back.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
It's like he's just sitting there and he's just like yeah,
Like you know. That's how I at the Warriors.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
I mean, I know that it's a tough route, but
I just feel like a couple of changes.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
But that Clay Thompson news is like heard me, But
stuff is still good.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
I just a couple of changes, you know, get some
you know, maybe a trade or something like that, maybe
get some new blood in there or something.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Get things rolled up. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I don't think you're going to be a bummy team.
I don't think they're going to go from the best
to the bottom.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Of the barrel. I that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Hold up, now, hold up, now, I'm sorry you said
they're not gonna be a bummy team. They are seventeen
and nineteen and that is what Stephen Curry playing his
ass off for the majority of the time. I know
he's kind of slacked off a little bit.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
New blood.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You got to get some new blood. But that's what
we're coming into this.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
They got new blood. Steve Courage just don't want to
play him because he's loyal to the veterans. Right, you
got Trace Jackson Davis, Right, you got Brandon po Jamsky,
you got all these guys. And he's so and I
get it right. One of the things I think that's
really important when he comes to professional coaching is managing eagles.
I think that's more appreciated in the top level of

(18:31):
your sport than ex'es. And know's because the players already
know most of the concepts and the schemes. But I
think he's done a really good job of managing them.
But today, right now, I think he needs to let
go of that and understand that he has to swallow
his pride and put the players in the right position.
Even if it's going to upset some other people. Last
thing I'll say about this is Bob Myers. Y'all know

(18:52):
how he was there for the whole dynasty, but his
ass decided to jump ship because he knew that Klay
Thompson contract extension was coming. He knew things were gonna
get a little drinking sticky, so he said, I ain't
dealing with that. I do not want to become the enemy.
And he's now chilling, and now he's about to become
the GM of the I think the Washington Football the Commanders,

(19:13):
which is crazy itself, but yeah, I feel like Bob Meyers.
He knew the time to get out, and he was
still able to enjoy all the fruits of their labor.
Not a whole lot to enjoy though. For the Lakers, Tarika,
they are seeing a team that's dominated by Lebron and

(19:35):
ad and yet they are still just barely in the
playing tournament as we stand right.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
Now, well yeah, I mean they're eighteen and nineteen. They're
sitting in the eleventh spot in the conference. They are
coming off of much need to win against the Clippers,
but the struggles of this team.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Has just been way too much to not overlook.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
And I don't really you know, comment or shall I say,
I don't really agree with Lebron on much when it
comes to on the court stuff because I'm an listen
for those who don't know who are listening to the
show watching the show. I am a sports fan first
and analyst and all of that in journalists second. Okay,
so sometimes I still very much lead with my heart

(20:16):
over stuff that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
There are moments to be objective and moments where I
can be a true fan. And in this moment right now,
I'm letting y'all know that I am being a true
fan because in my mind, Lebron James will always be
a Cavalier.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I don't care what.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Team he plays for, he will always always be a Cavalier.
And I will always see the two thousand and seven
playoffs in my head where he dusted my pistons and
got swept by the Spurs. So with that being said,
I don't agree with with Lebron on much. And I
know that he's a phenomenal player and I will never
say he isn't. And I know that he's the goat
and I will never say he isn't. But just as

(20:51):
a sports fan oblige me when I say a sports fan, ago,
yet there can.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Be more be there can be more than one.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
There can be When you said can be more than.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
One, yes, there could be more than one, because there
can be. There can be several. There can be several.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
There hasn't There doesn't just have to be one. There
could be multi fayer.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
That's that's, that's it, and that's and that's the biggest
compliment I'm giving Lebron as a sportsman just saw that
way now.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
But with that being said, my man said, we just
suck right now. Yes, you're right. You couldn't be more right.
You do just suck right now.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
And now they're questioning Darvin Ham's job security. Now they're
you know, talking about, well the upcoming trade deadline, which
I think is something that they honestly should look into.
Can you find another score, Can you find someone that's
going to help you know, whether that could be Siakam
or whether that could be Levine.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Is there someone who can be explosive to this.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Offense that can help because a part of this team
is chemistry, and the other part of this team is
your pieces are just not working for you. Lebron can't
do it all. While he is still amazing, he is
still forty, and there are just so much that you
are going to do at this age, and again, granted
is better than what some people are doing at twenty five,

(22:11):
but at the end of the day, you cannot, Like,
Lebron is no longer that player that can by himself
carry a team entirely, and he shouldn't have to when
you've gotten Anthony Davis on your team, who should also
be sharing that low. There have been moments where we've
seen Anthony Davis play phenomenally, where we've seen him take
over a game, and that is kind of how they
won that end season tournament because Anthony Davis played outstanding,

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but we aren't seeing it consistently, and we're not going
to see it consistently in my opinion, the way that
this team is currently constructed. So you know, Demitia, when
you think about the Lakers and what are they doing,
who are you pointing to blame at or or better.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yet, who should be who should be the fixer?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Who should be the Olivia Pope.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
On this team? Who's fixing? Y? Yeah, who's a fixer?

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I mean I feel like, first of all, you gotta
look at the coach. I mean, you gotta look at
the coach. You gotta look at the captain of the squad,
and it's like, what's happening out there? I mean you'd
obviously see Lebron's frustrations. Lebron is going to be Lebron
and he's going to perform. And I feel like thirty
nine forty, you know, I mean, he's not really showing
any signs of slowing down. I feel like he, you know,
he's like Tom Brady, he could come back and win
another one, Like that's that's how he.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Could be right. But the thing is is that you
do need somebody who can lighten the load. You need
a score.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
So are we talking about it to Jontay Murray coming,
you know from the Hogs?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Like what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (23:25):
I don't have any problem with him saying that they suck?
I know that there were some other analysts, former coaches.
It was like Sam Mitchell was like, oh, that's not
good for morale. But I'm like, if Kobe or Jordan
said it the other goats, then it's like, you know,
I mean, they're just being real, And so I feel
like we should you know. I mean first of all,
that you know it does commentary, it is what it is.
I mean, if you lost ten of your last fourteen games,

(23:46):
but you want the nd season tournament, do we need
to put another five hundred racks on the line and
then maybe maybe y'all can pull it off?

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Like?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
What is it a money thing? I don't do we
need to rest more?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Is the NBA rest policy really hurting y'all that you
can't sit out these games? So what you're not super charged?
Like what's going on? I mean a lot's changed. There
have been some new you know, regulations put into play
so that fans can see their favorite people playing.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
But is it costing us?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
I mean, I know there's always that fine line between
the resting the injuries, which we saw, you know, two
horrific ones yesterday. But the thing is is like you
gotta change something. But the coach is definitely in the
hot seat right now, so people are not happy.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You got to do one little Twitter search and it's like, you.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Know, chock, how much of the hot seat is Darvin
Ham really in?

Speaker 5 (24:27):
And I say this because there were reports that came
out of LA that Genie Buss sent him a text
message saying, hey, I'm supporting you, I'm behind you, and
I think that says a lot compared to what the
conversations was when the Lakers were struggling under Frank Vogel.
It was very clear that Genie Bus didn't support Frank Vogel,
that she did not believe he was the guy that
could help get them to the next level of success.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Where it seems like she's a little bit more behind Darvingham.
So how many the hot seat is?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
You got the n season tournament.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
But let's see you losing her for ten games and
then let's see how she's filling up.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Of that, Like you know what I mean, Keep losing
and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Because right, yeah, that's rue. He's like, Okay, all right,
we're in this really bad period right now. But if
it gets worse, yeah, that that text is not going
to be supportive. Vin, what are we doing here? You're
complaining about people living and dying with every win or loss,

(25:24):
as if you're not the head coach of the Lakers.
Some of the quotes that come out of his mouth quote,
oh my god, like.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
From ABC to the coach, it just seems like there's
this rift in this philosophy when it comes to injuries
things like this, and it's like, what's really going on?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Are we all on the same page here? And that's huge.
You know you got to be I know you have Lebron,
but it's like the coach has still got to be
the coach.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
So are we misinterpreting a text because you know, when
Darvin was asked, he said, I'm solid his words, I'm solid.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
You know how people you know how people try to
proclaim that or manafact something when they don't believe that,
like I'm good, Yeah, I'm good, I'm good. I'm great.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Like me like the meme with the dog sitting around
the fire and he's just like.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I'm good, right, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah, yeah, you
know yeah, you know what.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
But you know what, I mentioned it earlier, and I
shout out to this note from our producer, because while
I did mention that Ad was playing healthy, I mean
playing playing well and helped to win a tournament, I
did not mention his health. And this is probably the
first season that I can think of in a long
time where we're not having conversations about Ad, you know,

(26:31):
messing up his fingernail and now got to set out
like ten games like we are now having conversations that
we can, you know, almost call him reliable, which I
think is incredibly important for LA.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
No, it's huge, it's incredible. Right. That's what makes things
so much more frustrating if you're a Lakers fan, because
you have ad playing at a high level. Right, I
think the last ten games he's been cooking, you know,
December twenty first, thirty one, on twenty six, forty twenty six,
thirty three, twenty against the Pelicans, twenty nine against the Heat,
thirty one, then twenty two versus the Clippers. And that's

(27:07):
just on the scoring it, right, We're not even talking
about his defensive ability, which is always great. Yeah. So
he's been there and he's been reliable in this stretch,
but the supporting cast has been so inconsistent combined just
like inconsistent as far as they're played, but also because
of the injuries that they've had, whether it's Gay Vincent

(27:28):
or the Angel Russell has been injured, right, Orti Mura
or you know Vanderbilt, there isn't an ability for them
to find any rhythm. And that's what makes him more
alarming because your two top players are playing at high
levels and you're still one of the worst teams in
the West, or you're at the bottom.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Two top players, your two top players are playing at
a high level and you're still one of the worst
teams or at the bottom. As you just said, Chris,
does that mean that we have overrated Ad and Lebron
together as a duo, not in visuals but together as
a duo.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Have we expected more from them, Demetria than maybe we
should have?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
They're both high performing players.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I mean I feel like, you know, you're always looking
for that dynamic duo when it comes to basketball, and
could that have been it?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
But if these people are being overplayed and you have.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
No help, I mean, I mean, we like to think
Michael Jordan's Scotti, Pivit and two guys, but it's.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Really not just two guys.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
There's three other guys on the court too, and they
have to perform as well. So two guys can't win
the whole thing. Two guys can't win the whole thing.
I mean, I mean, they can score, score, score, but
it's like, where's your defense at you know, I mean Lebron, Yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Gonna get in there. He's gonna do what he does.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
But you know, he's getting older and that wear and
tear is real. I'm scared if you keep the load
on Lebron and ad like, what's going to happen? You know,
in another ten fifteen games. Let this keep happening. I mean,
you've got to have other people who are going to
come in and perform. And that's why, you know, when
you mentioned Siakam Murray, I talked about it's like, I

(29:04):
think you're gonna have to go to the trading block
and bring somebody in because if this isn't working, something's
gonna change.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
And I know that coach Darvin knows that very well.
That's just the way it is. You got to do
some real adjustments if that's not work.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Just like we talked about with Golden State, it's like,
if this isn't working, then you're going to have to
bring some players off the bench and let these young
guys at it and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, we saw it last year, right. The Lakers start
off too and ten and then they make some trades
and they find themselves in the Western Conference. But difference, Yeah,
it makes a huge difference. And that just seems to
be a typical It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
It's going to happen because I'm an anytime Lebron. The
thing about Lebron being one of the.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Goats is like when you start seeing the frustration on
his face, when you start hearing those little when you
start seeing them doing.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
This in the back, you know, like you know, you
already know what.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Time it is, you know what Tom is already hold
before you. There was a clip of him. I don't
know if y'all saw where he was brushing the sheet
out of his hair. It was like he was like.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
You already know, don't ask no questions, crash like.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
You know that's funny.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Oh my god, So you don't have a bat line
to the head office. You guys know what Tom it is.
Big changes are going to happen. Lebron does not like
to lose him. That's one thing I always appreciate about
King James.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
He's a true competitor. You can't take that away from him,
whether or not you believe. You know, past NBA Golden
Age basketball was more to more and hard all of
this stuff.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
But Lebron James is.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
A true competitor and he doesn't give up he doesn't
care how old he is. He's going to go out
there and perform his best and it really hurts him
when he's losing like that. So I love that about him,
and I feel like every other young player on that
team should be inspired by that. And I don't think
we give Lebron enough credit for that because we look
at Kobe and we look at Jordan and how everybody
wanted to, you know, be the best they could just
to impress Jordan. But I'm like, I think Lebron evokes

(30:57):
that in players as well. You know what you talked about.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
We kind of all touched on like NBA trades and
how you know, the deadlines approaching and how that could
be beneficial to the Lakers team. But there is a
team that has unexpectedly benefited from a recent trade, and
we'll get into that after the break, y'all.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
How about the New York Knicks looking like a team
poised to make some noise in the Eastern Conference ever
since they traded away RJ. Barrett And they're beloved. Mayo
quickly for og Nnobe, who has fit in seamlessly with
this team. Right, He's a three and D guy, somebody

(31:39):
who plays great defense, whether it's help one on one,
he can hit the three, catch and shoot. They are
four and oh since the trade, they beat the best
team in the Western Conference. They whooped up on Joe
Embid and the six Ers, and Jalen Brunton was named
Eastern Conference Player of the Week. Holding it down, Yeah,

(32:00):
should even though he is undersized, right, And our producer, Yeah,
you know, he kind of forced this issue on us.
But I'm cool, you know what I'm saying, because yeah,
I was a Knicks fan through and through, and I
know he's been through a lot, So it was the
least we could do was talk about the Knicks and
the way they've looked right since that trade. And I

(32:24):
just I'm curious, Tarika, how do you see them progressing
for the rest of the year as currently constructed? And
do you think they need to make another trade to
get with the Bostons of the world and the Milwaukee
Bucks of the world when it comes down to a
seven game series.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
You know what, I just want to throw out here
for the record that I'm not mad at you out
because when we were stinking up the joint, we definitely
talked about the Pistons and they horrible asses on the show.
So now that the Knicks are doing good, you better
put it in the rundown. Nown So I feel that, okay,
But honestly, you know, to go back, I do think
that there were a lot of people who were mad

(33:06):
about Quickly and Barrett. Now, I wasn't one of them
because we finally got a win out of the deal
to day that the trade happened, So I wasn't mad
about it. But I mention it was not a lot
of people mad right now because I really can't front
this Knicks teams is just really balling out right now,
like you know, we're gonna keep it a buck. This
four game win streak, while has been impressive, I think
it's not necessarily the last win because I think that

(33:28):
was the game against the Wizards where I feel like
Jaylen Brnston and Julius randall really played their best basketball.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
But that was against the Wizards. I mean, so there's that.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
But the win against Philadelphia is the win that I
think that people really need to pay attention to, especially
coming off of a back to back, and I think
that game is the game that should be the barometer
for what New York can really be because the defense
looks new and improved.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
They've gotten more death now on the bench.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
And again we're making jokes about what Becky Hammond said about,
you know, Jayleen Brunston being under size. But if Julius
Rando keeps playing like the big guy that he is,
which is the big guy that Becky Hammond was talking
about is necessarily needed in order to propel a team
to the next level, then you know, you putting yourself
in a position where if I'm dropping thirty nine against

(34:16):
the Wizards, Brunson's following me up with thirty three. This
is the kind of tandem that leads to success in
this league and only adding a piece, like you know,
they're talks about Malcolm Brogden and all this other if
these are the kind of things that I think when
you're talking about the ceiling for the Knicks. If you're
continuing to play like that and you do get an
extra piece, Nick fans don't get excited. But I can't

(34:40):
see an Eastern Conference can tender in your path. I
can see in your future that if you play like this,
you could could possibly be a contender in the Eastern
Conference championship.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I'm not saying you're gonna win the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
I ain't saying that, you know, y'all out here with
the ability to beat the best team every night, but
when you're talking about playing in the seven game series
where you make adjustments, where you learn the other team,
where you have to be able to bring your a
game every single night.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
And we've seen Milwaukee Bucks can be beat. We've seen
as they.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Just did by thirty six points. The Philadelphia seventy six
ers can be beat. We saw Boston going overtime with
the worst team in the league. They can be beat.
So New York has an absolute opportunity to truly be
a contender team and make a deep playoff run. But
we need to see this kind of effort from Julius
Randall and jayleb Brenston every night on or at least,

(35:36):
you know, seventy five to eighty percent of the way.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Are you giving me Don't be giving me no love.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Don't be giving me no love, y'all. Don't give me.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Orange John, you know, I mean, I'm just like I
brought out the small fact that I've bought like almost
ten years ago from college.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I'm like, I know New York is getting it.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
You, and you know, I got a lot of respect
for the Knicks and what they're doing. And I feel like,
you know, what was it just last year they made
it to the Eastern semi finals.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
They got beat out by what the heat. But the
thing is is like you're showing us, you know that
you could be on the brink of something. Can they
beat Boston right now?

Speaker 4 (36:14):
No, that's not gonna happen. But did they beat the
best in the West? Did they beat the Summer Wolves
in the I mean, yeah, they did, And that's really exciting.
Is it enough to you know, make me bring out
the Spike Lee orange and blue jumpsuit.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I like, no, I'm not going to keep that, you
know in my you know, in my mom's closet. Is
something until now.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
But the thing is is that there's some other pieces
that need to be added to the table. I think
that obviously, you know where you said, Julius Jalen. They're
doing amazing things on the court, and damn what a
hell of a trade in you know, og doing his
thing out there. I mean, his inflection IQ is insane.
I love this guy and he is a real difference maker,
and so we're seeing that shine that sparkle, but for

(36:50):
a team that hasn't been relevant for the past, like
I'm sorry, but like fifty years, because you got to
be really consistent.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
That's the lots oft time. Y'all want a championship. And
I'm not hating on New York. I got a lot
of love for New York shatout.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
But my thing is is this is like, you got
to give us a little bit more because we've seen
glimmers in the past, but then we've seen like seven
year dry runs not qualifying for any type of playoff whatsoever.
So I mean, let's get across the line a little
bit more on this one. Let's get a sixth man
coming in. So I do think we're talking a trade here.
I think we need somebody to come in who's fresh,

(37:21):
who can score as well, because you can't just put
the weight on these two guys just to you know,
get out there and do it every night. And we've
got the big guy with og which is great. I mean,
he said Randall, like you know, he's doing this thing
out there, really scoring a.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Lot of power there. But it's like, let's get that team.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Let's get that what Golden State used to be looking
like team like, let's get that together and then let's
remain consistent because you know, we still got a lot
of games to go, and we've seen people beat the
best and then fall off. We've seen people win the
nd season tournament and then become a bottom of the
barrel team.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
It's just like, can we eat across the finish line
before we get too excited here. I'm just saying a
no shade. But you know what I'm saying, really, I
got loved I love it.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
I got to bring them out for you know, people
look to be mad at me, but I'm just saying
like this, I don't want to get too excited yet
until you get all of the pieces that you need
because they're not on Boston's level right now.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
They're not, and that's who you're gonna have to beat.
So you're looking good. That's what's up. You're not last,
that's what's up.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
That's a big deal because I mean it's been a while,
it's been a while, it's been a while.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
I'm gonna saw some love to I'm mncha havell some
love to Dante DiVincenzo too, because his scoring has absolutely
gone up since that trade. I think he's averaging like
twelve points a game now over the course of that time,
where you know, so to your point about them needing
some more effective scoring, they do have an opportunity to
get that from their bench players now, which is something

(38:38):
that I don't think that they previously had when it
comes to that death, but I'm listen ig.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Nobody who's explosive.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
I'd love to see somebody who's explosive and if they've
got it and they can, you know, get that going
out there. I mean, get it going now, get into
that rhythm now because it's going to matter. You don't
want to get to the you know, playoffs and then
you know, you fall short. Like let's let's let's let
these New Yorkers have something for once. Yeah, can they
have un like you know what I mean, you can't

(39:04):
like fasting.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Like, hey, hey, look the Liberty tried. They had you know,
they tried. You're talking about it, say mess and.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Everything, and that's that's for sure. But I mean we
could we could pivots a football and that they don't
have it there. So it's kind of like, you know,
I don't know the women are consistent, but I mean,
when it comes to football. It's like you want I
want it for Spike Lee. I want to see that
man smile on the sideline one of these days, Like
I want to see him you.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Know, joy, Yeah, so much. Man.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
You man have given y'all greatness in cinema for over
thirty years and y'all can't get this man a championship.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
What is happening? You deserve better, Spike.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Forget a championship. Just get a championship appearance, right they haven't,
like they haven't been in the finals since the nineties.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, I'm doing the thing. I mean, that's what I'm
saying when we say that.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, was like, you know, he's been and you know,
struggling in the past years with the Knicks, they're underperformance
all of this stuff. But the thing is is that
he was born into this struggle. You were born into
this because I mean, they've been back for a very
long time. I mean the fact that Melo, you know,
when Melo was at the next I'm like, okay, now
we're talking that's Mellow and and then it's like, wow,
I'm done. And I'm not saying Mellow's is a doude.
I'm just saying it just didn't come together together, and

(40:20):
that was like, do it.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
For Mellow, Do it for Mellow and Spike Lee, do
it for those bass.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
And sometimes sometimes you are born into a situation and
you have no choice or in control of, but you
can continue to want and hope better for yourself. The
thing that I feel bad about is that there are
moments where they give you glimpses that they could be
that team that you're hoping for, and then they just

(40:47):
fall short.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Fall flat, kind of like the Cowboys. But either way
it goes. I just think that there's a good chance
this year.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Honestly, I think all of the talk and the negativity
that had come out about Jayleen and I think it
fueled him. I mean, listen, my boy cat said the truth.
Don't need no motivation, so right, so Jalen, go ahead
and continue to be motivated at the ball out, bring
your boy Julius in with you. If y'all can make

(41:16):
some moves at the NBA trade deadline, to go ahead
and add.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
A six person to give y'all that extra piece of scoring.
You all can prove the world wrong. You can prove
the world wrong.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
You know, last year, like I said, East Semifinals but
they could keep going.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
But you got to keep moving. You got to keep
the momentum. You can't fall flat.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
But you know so because we've seen it, right, and
I know we're about to end this. We've seen it
before the Hawks, right, they make it to the Eastern
Conference finals, right when the Bucks won the championship, and
then that same you know, pretty much same core. The
next year it was it wasn't great. So it's really
hard to put together, you know, multiple years of greatness

(41:54):
where you keep elevating. But it is good for the sport,
it is good for the league. But if you have
me right now, do I think that the Knicks are
going to be in the Eastern Conference Finals now? But
I think they're gonna make things hell of a lot interesting,
more than we thought going into the year. And I
know we touched on, you know, the Cowboys and some
other teams. We're gonna be talking a little bit more
of football with our jump ball segment after break.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
So you know, panel of esteemed analyst hosts. You guys
are some of the smartest minds in the business. And
typically you know, when there is a championship game, you know,
you know offgate, you know who you think and expect,
and you have your rationality and your reasonings for winning.

(42:38):
Except if your name is Jarika Foster Brasby and you
are a Michigan State fanily and absolutely hate Michigan, that
all reasoning goes out of the door. You don't have
any rational reason for why you don't want a team
to win.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
You just don't want that team to win.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
And so as we go into our jump ball segment,
which will be fit i'reen some hot takes, we decided
to step away from the NBA content for just a
quick second and really touch on the National championship game
that was played this week in Houston where the Michigan Wolverines.
The Michigan Wolverines won their first national championship since nineteen

(43:20):
ninety seven with the perfect fifteen and oh season. We
are gonna just kind of talk about that a little bit,
give our quick hot takes on this game, and I
think we all have a few, and if you haven't
figured out what mine is minus quite simply, I don't
care that their perfect Michigan still sucks. Michigan will always suck.

(43:42):
And congratulations to all of my friends who are Michigan fans.
I really love and appreciate you, and I'm happy that
you finally have something to cheer about.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
But you still suck. I said what I said.

Speaker 5 (43:54):
I ain't gotta have no reason. I don't gotta have
no explanation. I don't really care if y'all blow up.
My mention is because what I'm saying ain't nothing that
I ain't never said before, and it certainly ain't nothing
that I won't say again.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Michigan still sucks.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
But congratulationsuations, congratulations on your wind.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
And so that y'all know, Yes, I am.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
In HBCU graduate, but I definitely took summer classes at
Michigan State because HBCU classes sometimes be a little expensive.
So I took classes at Michigan State, which means I
was a student, which means I wasn't rolled. So I
am not just some random Michigan State fan. I have
an ID that said as I went to Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
So forget y'all wilverines. But congratulations next. Who's next?

Speaker 3 (44:42):
So you took some online classes in Michigan and now.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
You I wish that was online, girl, I wish they
was online. They had me trucking and it was hot.
You know, people think again, it's only cold in Michigan.
It be hot as handle in the summertime. I'm up
there trucking.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Down down what we're going to class? Anyway, anyway, I
know Carl was hot anyway.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Yeah, Michigan, they just you know, it's just the way
that this whole situation played out with the potential cheating.
I'm using air quotes here, potential cheating. Demetria, you gotta
have feelings, because there's no way, there's no pan.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
I put it on my socials last night.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
I mean, I was definitely rooting for Washington. I really
wanted Pennix to come through with his story. I mean,
you know, just injury riddled career, I mean, you know,
to get this far. I really wanted to see him
succeed and be triumphant. In their game against Texas, he
was looking ultra quarterback.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Ye I mean, he was giving me like shades.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
And the homes and so I'm like, oh my god,
that passing game was just so illustrious. It's what I
wanted to see. When Michigan was facing off against Alabama, didn't.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
See much of that.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
I mean, and after seeing Michigan play Alabama, you know,
I mean their defense dominant.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Even watching them all.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Season, you've seen that big guys, and I I was
hoping that, you know, Washington had an answer for that.
They didn't, and you saw that and Pennix looked panicked
at times. He wasn't able to complete passes, you know,
throwing interceptions. It just you know, but you you know,
sometimes you have a bad game, right. But the thing
is this when it comes to the sign stealing and
everything like this. I think we were talking beforehand about cheating,

(46:17):
and it's like, you know, you ain't you ain't what
ain't trying if you ain't cheating, if you ain't cheat,
And my dad said the same thing yesterday.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
But my thing is is this is that when you
get caught, that's real.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
And I know a lot of Ohio State fans really
wanted to see Michigan lose and fail and burn miserably
against Alabama and then Washington. It didn't happen. I don't
want to take anything away from the players, because it's
not the player's fault. When we talk about Connor stallions,
when you talk about these guys who've been part of
the stuff. Of course, like I was fired, but it's
like that he was at one of the games though,

(46:49):
so I think it was at this game too, So
it's just it's interesting, but not sitting with Michigan, but
somewhere off he was spotted I think against Alabama. But
the thing is is that you broke the rules and
you got caught and so now you have to be
the price. And so you've made it this far. But
in the back of my mind I just couldn't help
but think, like, did that help you did stealing those calls?

(47:09):
You know, for the past few years help you build
this powerful team? And like I said, I don't want
to take anything away from the players, because I mean
they were dominant last night and they looked phenomenal. I
mean the defense, and that's what I was worried about
when it came to Washington. I'm like, how are they
going to protect Panics? I mean, what's the offensive line
going to do to protect this guy? So he's enough
time to cook and we saw what happens. So the
thing is is, like I want to see what's going

(47:31):
to happen during this offseason. I want to see what
penalties are going to be unleashed. I don't think they're
getting the death penalty or anything as.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Serious as that. But my thing is like, what's really
going to happen?

Speaker 4 (47:42):
And I do think some restrictions are I mean, excucuse me,
penalties are needed, and I don't think that Harboss sitting
out three games is enough. And that's not the only
thing that they did. You know, there was a recruiting
violation during the period where you're not supposed to be
talking any players, and so that you know they've done
They've done some things this, you know, past season, and

(48:03):
I think they have to answer for it. I mean,
if my Jayhawks had to answer for stuff like this,
I mean, what was it just this year KU basketball
men's basketball. I mean we got, you know, games erase,
a Final Four appearance twenty eighteen wiped away. And so
I just say it's gonna happen with Michigan because it
is important that you play by the rules, and those
rules were put there for a purpose, and so that's
just how I feel. I mean, no hate to the players.

(48:24):
I'm just saying the administration failed you in that way.
And so Saban was over here talking about I don't
even think we can have the iPads out. Are they
gonna steal the plays from us? And all of this,
and so I mean, Saban's gonna do Saban, you gonna
say say, this is like but seriously, though I can't
tell you know, there is that slight asterisk. It's like, well,
did this help you? What kind of edge did this

(48:45):
really give you?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
You wouldn't have done all that if it wasn't gonna
give you that kind of an edge. So that's all
I'm saying, Chris.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Do you find any irony in this that they won
in Houston, which was the last.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Team that was caught cheating?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Ooh, look at you what them fat?

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Hold up?

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Now?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Houston Astros?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Whoa, whoa damn it ain't even basically it's the off
season Astros catching it straight.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I'm just asking me. I'm just saying it was, you know,
as a New Yorker.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
I don't know if you're a Yankees fan or not,
but I mean you might feel some sight of way
about the city of Houston.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I was just you know what I'm saying, DC.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
So you know, the Astros did what it did, and
then my man Dusty Baker finally got that ring clean
right and treated so they could get it done. But
I do think there is some irony for me, Like,
first of all, the me trip. You talk about the
asterisks and all these allegations, right, Jim Harbor ain't gonna

(49:51):
be there for that because his ass is going to
the NFL. I'm pretty confident the way he was answering
questions leading up to the championship game or leading up
to the the semi final and even after, right he
was like, can I just enjoy my can I just
enjoy the moment? Like do we have to talk about
the future. He never would not report right or denied

(50:13):
that he has interest in the NFL. So I think
he's gone. He's gonna pull Pete Carroll right because remember
all the natigation that's gonna go.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
You're talking about where's he going the Raiders?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Then he's gonna go to the charge No. No, if
he goes to the Raiders, he's gonna ade. He's gonna
look like his father right now because they're carbon copy, right,
they look exactly, it's just crazy DNA's copy and paste.
But no, he's gonna go to the Chargers thanever.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
I can definitely see him going to the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Like he looks like he's having the time of his life.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
But I mean, the Ravens shot at the Super Bowl
this year, So it's like, with that being sane, your brother,
you know, he's got the college championship and then you've
got you know, John winning Raven's Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
That'd be John would have two. Then John would have
one over him again, right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:00):
And who do you taking it from his little brother? Yeah,
it's just his little brother.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, but but I wouldn't just say get this off
my chest. It's funny how the Michigan Wolverines won this game,
and they deserved it, but it just it's weird how
the refs let all these holding calls go by the
way side for so much of the game, particularly on Michigan.
But then a very I don't think very mighty is it,

(51:32):
very ticky tacky hold on Washington offensive lineman during a
big play for Michael Pennix to roma doom d They
call that.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah mm hmm yea yeah, like thirty yards, yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
For thirty yards, And that could have that could have
changed the whole, you know, complexion of the game.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
So I find that interesting, could have changed the whole
trajectory of that game.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, So for me, like Michigan, you you don't have
no sign ceiling on your side right now, but look
like them reps. Uh, you know some agendas at play.
I don't know, I just found that to be funny.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
I'll just say that, yeah, holding that definitely needed to
be called. But the thing is is that I just
that defense just looks so sharp.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
But like I said, I mean, the players are definitely
physically capable, but it's like that those play calls make
all the difference. And we saw that when it came
down to a clutch moment when Alabama had a chance
to score. And you know, I don't even want to
bring that up, you know, but we don't let the
nay sayers.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
No, let them no.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
Just as our disclaimer, all of the hate in this
segment was true, there was no manufactured hate here.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
All of the actors in this segment have not been harmed.
We are all good.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
No, seriously, guys, it's been an awesome show and real
talk shout out to Michigan. Like we all have our opinions,
but to go perfect in the season, regardless of the
other things that may have come.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Along with no shade or disrespect to the players.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
To go perfect in any season is very very difficult,
So shout out to you guys.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Congratulations with you shot you guys, remember when Central Florida
was like, we're the real national championsha I remember that
It's gonna be real interesting next season.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
If you are a college football fan listening to this
uh to this podcast, then you will see a twelve
team playoff as it is going to band next year.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
So very exciting.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
But guys, live it up, have fun, don't do anything
crazy as you guys are celebrating, but we are.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
We're out of here.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
That's the end of our show today. Guys, We've had
an incredible time. We thanked Demetria so much for joining us.
It was so much fun to have you on this show.
We cannot wait for you to come back again because
we know that you will. If you guys are not
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Speaker 2 (54:31):
Back on the comments section. I am that person that coms.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
But at the end of the day, guys, we always
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From me, we are out

Speaker 1 (55:07):
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